Speaker 1: Cool media.
Speaker 2: Welcome to it could happen here, a show about things
Speaker 2: falling apart. We are back from our little break, and
Speaker 2: today I'm joined with Robert Evans to discuss fascism.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, yeah, I'm here. We're talking fascism. Listeners,
Speaker 3: excuse me. I have a sinus infection. So that's why
Speaker 3: it sound this way.
Speaker 2: Oh that's why you sound like that.
Speaker 3: Uh huh that sucks life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it might not suck as much as what
Speaker 2: I had to do last week, which is uh, watch
Speaker 2: this six part documentary about the twenty twenty four Trump
Speaker 2: election campaign. God, well, the art of the surge, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Overall, it was actually pretty boring. They were
Speaker 2: obviously trying to edit it like a succession episode. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, really obnoxious. There is some insight into like
Speaker 2: the inner workings of the Trump team, like watching him
Speaker 2: and his team react to the Kamala Harris, D and
Speaker 2: C speech like workshop counter messaging was actually interesting, and
Speaker 2: the doc does show kind of Musk's influence steadily ramping
Speaker 2: up starting in July. The only time you see Trump
Speaker 2: and Vance together is after Trump's ABC debate, when JD
Speaker 2: Like preps him for the spin room. That's the only time, Wow,
Speaker 2: we see them at a act.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that makes sense, Like I wouldn't want
Speaker 3: to be in a room with JD Vans more than
Speaker 3: I had to be, although the fact that he does
Speaker 3: want to be in a room with Musk is baff lit.
Speaker 2: Yes, and actually Musk and JD get along quite well
Speaker 2: in the interactions that are seeing in the documentary Milania.
Speaker 3: Trump never appears once, not a single time. Well, it's
Speaker 3: good to know that they've they've managed to put together
Speaker 3: a functional thrupple.
Speaker 2: Ooh, don't like that. Don't like that at all, first, buddy,
Speaker 2: the yikes. My biggest takeaway from this documentary is that
Speaker 2: it just showed how much his rallies are a religious
Speaker 2: experience for his supporters, deeply deeply religious, especially the Butler
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania rallies, where everyone talks about it like they would
Speaker 2: like like a genuine like limit experience or religious experience.
Speaker 2: Right now, this episode, I actually I want to focus
Speaker 2: on the rhetoric employed at these rallies in attempts to
Speaker 2: label Trump a fascists. There's been a lot of discussion
Speaker 2: on like Trump's authoritarian and dictatorial desires and tendencies and
Speaker 2: expressions of those fears, in particular, were not enough to
Speaker 2: persuade the majority of voters against Trump, let alone safe
Speaker 2: and Republican support towards Harris and we on this show
Speaker 2: have not talked much about the escalation of rhetoric used
Speaker 2: by Trump and his allies this campaign cycle, with the
Speaker 2: Biden administration's horrific border policies and the enabling of Israel's
Speaker 2: genocidal actions in Gaza drawing a great deal of our
Speaker 2: attention in the past few months, But now I do
Speaker 2: want to draw attention to the ethno nationalist framing that
Speaker 2: has become all too common, especially with the Democrats just
Speaker 2: complete submission to try Trump and the GOP's distinct focus
Speaker 2: on immigration as the top issue facing America. So part
Speaker 2: of what I'm gonna do here is I've outlined a
Speaker 2: few clips and some quotes I'm trying. I tried to
Speaker 2: limit the clips because I know no one wants to
Speaker 2: hear Trump and these guys talk for too long, but
Speaker 2: I will play some.
Speaker 4: And Robert, We've spent.
Speaker 2: A lot of your time thinking about fascism in the
Speaker 2: past few years and reading about fascism, so I'm certainly
Speaker 2: curious on your thoughts on some of these clips and quotes,
Speaker 2: as we'll kind of go through like three specific rallies,
Speaker 2: mostly great and outline what type of rhetoric they are
Speaker 2: using and what it kind of points to historically. Now,
Speaker 2: one of the reoccurring phrases at Trump rallies this cycle
Speaker 2: was that the United States has become an occupied territory.
Speaker 2: Here's Trump invoking that language at a rally in Atlanta
Speaker 2: a week before the election.
Speaker 5: But it will soon be an occupied country no longer.
Speaker 5: November fifth, twenty twenty four, will be Liberation Day in America,
Speaker 5: and during day one, I will launch the largest deportation
Speaker 5: program in American history. We're going to get these criminals out.
Speaker 5: I will rescue every city in town that has been
Speaker 5: invaded and conquered.
Speaker 3: These towns have been conquered, you know, they have been invaded.
Speaker 5: And can you imagine, just as though a foreign enemy
Speaker 5: was invading, a military was invading.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will rescue every city in town that has
Speaker 2: been invaded and.
Speaker 3: Conquered, conquered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just as though an enemy, a foreign enemy was invading.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that's I don't even know what to
Speaker 3: say about that. It's like that's textbook fascist shit, right, Like,
Speaker 3: I mean, among other things, ramping everyone up to justify,
Speaker 3: you know, at least the potential for violence against migrants.
Speaker 3: You know, it's self defense, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, I like to focus first on the Medison Square
Speaker 2: Garden rally. Certainly the put floating island of garbage comments
Speaker 2: from the roast comedian got a lot of media attention,
Speaker 2: but what got less coverage was the much more historically
Speaker 2: worrying statements made by those within Trump's circle. Let's start
Speaker 2: with Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller.
Speaker 6: America is for Americans and Americans only.
Speaker 2: So, Robert, does that phrase remind you of any other
Speaker 2: phrases that have been used over time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like one people, one vulc one Reich, right,
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, I mean again, Like I don't even
Speaker 3: know what to say at this point, right, Like, we're
Speaker 3: it's so obvious. When I started in the warning people
Speaker 3: about fascism game, you had to like explain a lot
Speaker 3: of history and then sort of like walk in, here's
Speaker 3: how you know what this is a sign post? I mean,
Speaker 3: when someone doesn't eighty eight this is what it means
Speaker 3: or whatever, And we're so far past that like.
Speaker 2: Well, and and specifically this one invokes the Germany is
Speaker 2: for the Germans, which is a phrase that is banned
Speaker 2: in Germany now due to its use during.
Speaker 4: Not the era.
Speaker 3: That gives us something to look forward to now.
Speaker 2: In a rant advocating for election denial in the case
Speaker 2: of Trump losing the election, Tucker Carlson referred to Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris as a Samoan Malaysian low IQ. This is just
Speaker 2: kind of baffling old school racism. Yeah, I honestly didn't
Speaker 2: expect this type of thing to have such a resurgence
Speaker 2: the past year.
Speaker 3: More esoteric than I expected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frankly odd now that Tucker also spoke about
Speaker 2: how the elites are trying to replace the population and
Speaker 2: the culture and customs of this country, just clearly invoking
Speaker 2: the white nationalists, a great replacement ideology that he kind
Speaker 2: of previously spread on his Fox show.
Speaker 7: In a country that has been taken over by a
Speaker 7: leadership class that actually despises them and their values and
Speaker 7: their history and their culture and their customs, really hates
Speaker 7: them to the point that it's trying to replace them.
Speaker 2: Very clear stuff. And Don Junior invoked very similar rhetoric,
Speaker 2: saying that the government no longer puts Americans first and
Speaker 2: that the Democratic Party would rather quote replace Americans with
Speaker 2: people who will be reliable voters on Club Wow. And again,
Speaker 2: this is types of stuff that we talked about in
Speaker 2: like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. It's like like Laurens Southern
Speaker 2: YouTube videos.
Speaker 3: And like, if there's one thing that dims are bad at,
Speaker 3: it's getting reliable voters.
Speaker 2: Yes, Like, this is the type of stuff that was
Speaker 2: so that was much more niche. And then you had
Speaker 2: a few like four chan guys start like doing a
Speaker 2: writing on Tucker's show, and now it's being used at
Speaker 2: a disappoint the president's rallies.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, when Trump finally.
Speaker 2: Took the stage, he mirrored Tucker's Kamala Harris IQ comments,
Speaker 2: saying everyone knows she's a very low IQ individual. Like usual,
Speaker 2: he called the press the enemy of the people, uh huh,
Speaker 2: But he went on to describe the true enemy masterminding
Speaker 2: the fall of America, the quote radical left machine that
Speaker 2: has taken control of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 5: It's just this a morphous group of people, but they're
Speaker 5: smart and they're vicious, and we have to defeat them.
Speaker 5: And when I say the enemy from within, the other
Speaker 5: side goes crazy, becomes a sound the hole. How can
Speaker 5: he say, no, they've done very bad things to this country.
Speaker 5: They are indeed the enemy from within.
Speaker 2: And I do find interesting the way he describes them
Speaker 2: as like a morphous Yeah, it's not like a distinct sect.
Speaker 2: It's not like a fuss of people. It's this like
Speaker 2: a MorphOS almost like like a like like ethereal force
Speaker 2: that can like inhabit people.
Speaker 3: Well, you need that because, that, among other things, allows
Speaker 3: you to refocus the lens on anyone. Yeah, right, Like
Speaker 3: you need the opportunity to keep shifting because eventually, if
Speaker 3: you're just actually focusing on a real, discreete group of
Speaker 3: human beings, you get rid of those people, you throw
Speaker 3: them in prison or whatever, and then you don't have
Speaker 3: an enemy anymore. And you always need that.
Speaker 4: And do you know what we need right.
Speaker 3: Now, Robert Products and Services.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do need to go on a quick break,
Speaker 2: and then I come back to talk about Dluth, Georgia.
Speaker 2: So not good, great, all right, we are back. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna now turn to a Turning Point action event on
Speaker 2: October twenty third in Dluth, Georgia, which I actually just
Speaker 2: visited for the first time. I went ice skating in Duluth, Georgia,
Speaker 2: and to kind of get a sense of what this town.
Speaker 2: It's not even really a suburb of Atlanta, it's it's
Speaker 2: so far north. As I was, ice is skating there,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure like a Christian cult showed up and
Speaker 2: they had all their members also ice skated, because they're
Speaker 2: all wearing like the same outfits. They hold like very
Speaker 2: specific like headscarves. A few of like the more like
Speaker 2: youth pastory types had like like you know, like christ
Speaker 2: As King Taype puddies. But it definitely wasn't like a
Speaker 2: regular church it was. It was more of some kind
Speaker 2: of like evangelical like cultish formation based on like the
Speaker 2: uniform clothing. So that's deLuce Georgia.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: Gave a fifteen minute speech which he closed with a
Speaker 2: spiritual appeal, saying, quote, you have a biblical obligation to
Speaker 2: engage in this election and to fight evil. The Democratic
Speaker 2: Party supports everything God hates unquote. Kirk then called this
Speaker 2: election a quote unquote spiritual battle, and finally he said,
Speaker 2: quote this is a Christian state. I want to see
Speaker 2: that continue. So none of this is like new right.
Speaker 2: This is kind of at this point bog standard Christian nationalism.
Speaker 2: But this is a rally of about ten thousand people.
Speaker 2: It's not an official Trump rally. It is a turning
Speaker 2: point action rally that Trump did speak at. But I
Speaker 2: like to hone in once again on Tucker Carlson's comments. Now,
Speaker 2: he called this the first speech he's ever given at
Speaker 2: a political rally. Now, both me and you saw Tucker
Speaker 2: speak at the RNC. I guess he kind of views
Speaker 2: the R and C is a little bit different from
Speaker 2: like a standard like kind of more like a campaign
Speaker 2: rally type event. But Tucker called Trump a triumph of
Speaker 2: the human spirit, christ a triumph of the will. You
Speaker 2: could say, yeah, yes, like what's another word for the
Speaker 2: human spirit. But now I'm going to play Actually, this
Speaker 2: is the longest clip we have, just because it's so fascinating,
Speaker 2: and I have a lot that kind have written on
Speaker 2: this already. I'm just going to play this clip.
Speaker 7: There has to be a point at which Dad comes home. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's right, Dad comes home and he's pefted.
Speaker 3: Dad is pissed.
Speaker 4: He's not vengeful.
Speaker 7: He loves his children, disobedient as they may be. He
Speaker 7: loves them because there's children, they live in his house,
Speaker 7: but he's very disappointed in their behavior and he's gonna
Speaker 7: have to let them know.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to get.
Speaker 7: To your room right now and think about what you did.
Speaker 7: And when dad gets home, you know what he says.
Speaker 7: You've been a bad girl. You've been a bad little girl,
Speaker 7: and you're getting a vigorous spanking right now. And no,
Speaker 7: it's not gonna hurt me more than it hurts you.
Speaker 4: No, it's not. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 7: That's gonna hurt you a lot more than it hurts me.
Speaker 4: And you earn this.
Speaker 7: You're getting a vigorous spanking because.
Speaker 3: You've been a bad girl. Well that's just real sick
Speaker 3: and deranged. I mean you can tell he really gets
Speaker 3: off on spanking little girls.
Speaker 2: I mean, like beyond like Tucker's like shown depravity here,
Speaker 2: I also just find like the willingness of the audience
Speaker 2: just to eat this stuff up and like really enjoy
Speaker 2: it to like similarly be be like both like fascinating
Speaker 2: and like a show of like a certain level of
Speaker 2: a depravement.
Speaker 3: Well it's this, it's leaning into what has always been
Speaker 3: the core of like the most militant conservatism, which is
Speaker 3: the like strict Christian conservative parents rights people sure be
Speaker 3: like my children are my property, and also the right
Speaker 3: way to parent is like a dictator.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like the most like openly Freudian
Speaker 2: display of American fascism that I've ever seen before.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, It's amazing, this.
Speaker 2: Idea of like a harsh father whose love is replaced
Speaker 2: with fearful authority. It's really important that like America is
Speaker 2: framed as a bad girl. There's this like feminizing of them, right,
Speaker 2: America is not like a bad little boy. A bad
Speaker 2: Girl's like really important. Carlson's almost invoking like an incestuous
Speaker 2: like domination. Yeah, it's it's quite sick, and like I
Speaker 2: had to actually like like look up stuff on this
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I know, Freud and a few others
Speaker 2: have like written about this type of thing before, and
Speaker 2: specifically Adorno has written about this in an essay called
Speaker 2: Freudian Theory and the Pattern of Fascist Propaganda that I'd
Speaker 2: like to read just a few brief quotes.
Speaker 3: From Oh I love some Adorno, Yes, please.
Speaker 2: Quote There is either no mention of love whatsoever between members,
Speaker 2: or it's expressed only in a sublimated and indirect way
Speaker 2: through the mediation of some religious image. In the love
Speaker 2: of whom the members unite and who's all embracing love
Speaker 2: they're supposed to imitate in their attitude towards each other.
Speaker 2: It seems significant that in today's society, with its artificially
Speaker 2: integrated fascist masses, reference to love is almost completely excluded.
Speaker 2: Hitler shunned the traditional role of the loving father and
Speaker 2: replaced it entirely by the negative one of threatening authority.
Speaker 2: I'm going to pivot to Freud here, specifically his essay
Speaker 2: on group behavior and how individuals regressed become a part
Speaker 2: of masses. He writes about how a leader of a
Speaker 2: cult can exploit psychological shortcuts in its followers to embody
Speaker 2: this like group ideal that governs their ego as a
Speaker 2: substitution quote, the leader of the group is the dreaded
Speaker 2: primal father. The group still wishes to be governed by
Speaker 2: unrestricted force. It has an extreme passion for authority, It
Speaker 2: has a thirst for obedience. The primal father is the
Speaker 2: group ideal. This is like so displayed on what Tucker
Speaker 2: is doing. Like this is just exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, it reminds me of the other quote about
Speaker 2: how people seek out salvation in subjugation. And I'll leave
Speaker 2: just one more quote from Adorno here.
Speaker 3: Quote.
Speaker 2: Fascist agitation is centered in the idea of the leader,
Speaker 2: no matter whether he actually leads or is only the
Speaker 2: mandatory of group interests, because only the psychological image of
Speaker 2: the leader is apt to reanimate the idea of the
Speaker 2: all powerful and threatening primal father. The formation of the
Speaker 2: imagery of an omnipotent and unbridled father figure, by far
Speaker 2: transcending the individual father and therefore apt to be enlargened
Speaker 2: into a group ego, is the only way to promulgate
Speaker 2: the passive masochistic attitude to whoms one's will has to
Speaker 2: be surrendered, an attitude required of the fascist follower the
Speaker 2: more his political behavior becomes irreconcilable with his own rational
Speaker 2: interests as a private person, as well as those of
Speaker 2: the group or class to which he actually belongs. The
Speaker 2: follower's reawakened irrationality is therefore quite rational from the leader's
Speaker 2: point of view. It necessarily has to be a conviction
Speaker 2: which is not based on perception and reasoning, but on
Speaker 2: an erotic tie. I'm sure someone more skilled than me
Speaker 2: could write like a whole dissertation just on Tucker's speech here,
Speaker 2: because it invokes so many of these ideas, and like
Speaker 2: without trying to this is always like subconscious on their part,
Speaker 2: like they're pulling on these things like specifically, like like
Speaker 2: the passive masochistic attitude. It's like their submission to Trump
Speaker 2: is like this deep masochistic urge.
Speaker 3: There's another thing in there that I think is important,
Speaker 3: especially because I'm hearing a lot of people talking about like, well,
Speaker 3: once Trump pushes through his tariffs or does this or
Speaker 3: does that, the horrible negative consequences of this will like
Speaker 3: absolutely destroy the GOP right. That'll finally bring them down
Speaker 3: to me let them, you know. No. And one of
Speaker 3: the things that Dorno says there is that like the
Speaker 3: leader doesn't even need to be pro and that's an
Speaker 3: underdiscussed aspect of psychology and fascist states. One of the
Speaker 3: phenomenons within Nazi Germany was, you know, there were a
Speaker 3: number of Nazi policies, Hitler's policies that had serious negative
Speaker 3: effects on people in Germany, and one of the most
Speaker 3: common phrases that you would hear from them was if
Speaker 3: only hit new right, you know, you usually deployed when
Speaker 3: like you were dealing with a government agency that was
Speaker 3: headed by just like an absolute criminal that you know,
Speaker 3: Hitler had appointed that Like, Oh, well, Hitler doesn't know
Speaker 3: that the Gestapo are doing this, right, you know, he
Speaker 3: would stop this, he'd put a stop to this if
Speaker 3: he knew, he wouldn't let this happen, Right, That's what
Speaker 3: That's what Trump's believers. I don't know if that's what
Speaker 3: the American people writ large may never buy into Trump
Speaker 3: the way that the Germans bought into Hitler, but Trump's
Speaker 3: supporters are certainly already there.
Speaker 2: And this is something that Tucker saw in the audience
Speaker 2: when he started on this rant. He started repeating certain
Speaker 2: phrases because it got such a good reaction from the crowd.
Speaker 4: Like this wasn't like planned.
Speaker 2: It was it was him reading the crowd and realizing, oh,
Speaker 2: they really like this. I'm going to keep doing it
Speaker 2: and specifically this. This is also how he closed his speech.
Speaker 2: And I don't believe this was this was planned. I
Speaker 2: believe this was because of the reaction that the crowd
Speaker 2: had previously. I'm going to play the very end of
Speaker 2: his speech where he basically endorses like a coup. If
Speaker 2: Harris actually wins.
Speaker 7: If they do all of that, they need to lose.
Speaker 7: And at the end of all of it, when they
Speaker 7: tell you they've won, no, you can look them straight
Speaker 7: in the face and say I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Dad's home and he's pissed.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: They love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course, all they have ever wanted
Speaker 3: is to be forced to be right, you know, and
Speaker 3: to the extent that reality disagrees with their beliefs, which
Speaker 3: it usually does, to be able to beat reality into
Speaker 3: place and at least continue to trick themselves until they die, right, Like,
Speaker 3: that's all the fascists I know, you know, the older people,
Speaker 3: many of whom raised me. That's what it really was
Speaker 3: about for them, was never having to acknowledge the mistakes
Speaker 3: that they had made, the things that they had supported
Speaker 3: that didn't work out. Like it was a rage at
Speaker 3: the peopleeople who insisted on pointing out, Hey, you said
Speaker 3: this was going to happen, and the opposite happened. So
Speaker 3: that promise of like, even if they win, Dad's going
Speaker 3: to come home and beat them into submission is deeply attractive, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, and even if it hurts your own like self interests,
Speaker 2: your only class interests, right, And it's like replacing all
Speaker 2: of the anguish you have as like an individual person
Speaker 2: and like replacing your own ego with the embodiment of
Speaker 2: this group ideal that is just someone else. Like this
Speaker 2: is why so many people have like dedicated their lives
Speaker 2: to Trump. Like you look at all these like like
Speaker 2: boomers and even some like gen X people at these
Speaker 2: Trump rallies who like Trump has like become like their personality.
Speaker 2: He's fully occupied their life. And yeah, like that's it's
Speaker 2: similar into the way that like occult leader has like
Speaker 2: how Freud wrote about it. Freud wrote all that stuff
Speaker 2: like in the nineteen twenties before before like Hitler really
Speaker 2: rose to power, but he could like sense what was
Speaker 2: like coming in Germany. He could he could feel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and what I'm gonna feel right now is the products
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Speaker 4: Huzzah, All right, we are back.
Speaker 2: I like to close by talking about Aurora, Colorado. Now,
Speaker 2: a tactic the Trump campaign consistently used this past year
Speaker 2: is to hone in on particular small communities as being
Speaker 2: taken over by immigrants who they would call like criminal migrants.
Speaker 2: The best known example of this is what happened in Springfield, Ohio,
Speaker 2: but this also happened in the Denver suburb Aurora, Colorado,
Speaker 2: after a video went viral showing men walking through an
Speaker 2: apartment complex holding firearms. A false claim then spread that
Speaker 2: a Venezuelan gang was forcibly taking over entire buildings in
Speaker 2: this city. At a Trump rally in Aurora on October eleventh,
Speaker 2: massive banners on both sides of the stage read Deport
Speaker 2: illegals now and end Migrant crime. On either side of
Speaker 2: the podium there were large mugshots of Latino men with
Speaker 2: text that reads occupied America. Steven Miller, now like Chief
Speaker 2: Advisor for Immigration Policy, takes the stage and says that
Speaker 2: the patriots gathered at this event can quote end the
Speaker 2: invasion and end the occupation by voting for Trump.
Speaker 6: Look at all these photos around me. Are these the
Speaker 6: kids you grew up with? Are these the neighbors you
Speaker 6: were raised with? Are these the neighbors that you want
Speaker 6: in your city? No, these are the criminal migrants the
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris brought into your community.
Speaker 2: Again, It's all pretty brazen stuff.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, I mean we call that brazen. But like
Speaker 3: that's just mainstream now. Yes, Like the fight to look
Speaker 3: at migrants as human beings and have any kind of
Speaker 3: samee justice you know for undocumented migrants in this country
Speaker 3: has been completely botched.
Speaker 2: There's something about like the suburban neighborhood idea that is
Speaker 2: more like disturbing to me, like pointing to actual pictures
Speaker 2: of people being Are these the kids you grew up with?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 2: And like the fight to like preserve this nostalgic idea
Speaker 2: of like your childhood neighborhood, it's just so dark to
Speaker 2: me now. Invoking great replacement framing, Miller says that Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris was bringing these immigrants into your communities and that
Speaker 2: they are now taking over America.
Speaker 6: We don't need in this country homeless migrants, criminal migrants.
Speaker 6: We don't need migrants consuming and depleting our public resources,
Speaker 6: overwhelming our public schools, overwhelming our hospitals, taking over our
Speaker 6: apartment buildings, and yes, murdering innocent Americans. You have a
Speaker 6: right to love the community you grew up in. You
Speaker 6: have a right to love your neighbors as they are.
Speaker 6: You have a right to want a country that is of, by,
Speaker 6: and for Americans and only.
Speaker 2: Americans again with that, like you have a right to
Speaker 2: love the community you grew up in, and then of
Speaker 2: course like Americans for Americans, and Miller later closed his
Speaker 2: speech by yelling, America will be reclaimed for Americans.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yep. I mean, look, these people suffered no
Speaker 3: consequences for what they did the last time, so they're
Speaker 3: going to keep pushing further. It's done nothing but work
Speaker 3: for them. No one has ever taught them any lesson that, like, hey,
Speaker 3: you've gone too far and now there are going to
Speaker 3: be negative consequences. That hasn't happened. So yeah, they're just
Speaker 3: going to keep getting more and more masked off. This
Speaker 3: is where they've wanted to be, Miller, certainly from the beginning.
Speaker 2: And they've used these past four years as prep work
Speaker 2: to build them to this point. Of course, none of
Speaker 2: what they're saying is like real in terms of like,
Speaker 2: you know, buildings being taken over the famously pro Harris
Speaker 2: liberal extremist group. The Aurora Police Department have continued to
Speaker 2: clarify that no apartment buildings have been taken over by
Speaker 2: any gangs, nor have tenants been paying gang members rent money.
Speaker 2: According to the police, none of the armed men seen
Speaker 2: in that viral video who have all been since identified
Speaker 2: or arrested. None of them have any ties to Venezuelan
Speaker 2: gangs or organized crime. What happened was slum lords spread
Speaker 2: a false story about their apartment complex being taken over
Speaker 2: by a gang as a way to get out of
Speaker 2: doing repairs on the property, saying it was too dangerous
Speaker 2: to enter the premises. Jesus, it was all like a
Speaker 2: fucking scam by slum lords so that they wouldn't have
Speaker 2: to fix their own apartment building. Denver seven found code
Speaker 2: enforcement and inspection records dating back to twenty twenty that
Speaker 2: show numerous violations prior to the influx of Venezuelan immigrants
Speaker 2: in the Denver metro area. The complex is now under
Speaker 2: new care, but a similar false tale of an apartment
Speaker 2: building in Chicago being taken over by immigrant gangs went
Speaker 2: viral in September due to the efforts of libs of
Speaker 2: TikTok and Elon Musk, with libs of TikTok saying quote,
Speaker 2: first they did this in Aurora, Colorado, and now Chicago,
Speaker 2: which city will be next? This invasion happened on Kamala's
Speaker 2: watch unquote. The last thing I will mention here is
Speaker 2: all of the blood comments that Trump has been making
Speaker 2: the past year. In interview last year, Trump said that
Speaker 2: immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. It's so bad,
Speaker 2: and people are coming in with disease, people are coming
Speaker 2: in with every possible thing that you could have unquote.
Speaker 2: This clearly invokes like blood framing used by Hitler and Nazis,
Speaker 2: and like eugenics in general. Yeah, and this is rhetoric
Speaker 2: that he's continuing to use for the present. In an
Speaker 2: interview last month, Trump say that immigrants are naturally murderers
Speaker 2: because quote, it's in their genes. We've got a lot
Speaker 2: of bad genes in our country right now.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of what this comes down to
Speaker 3: is that after World War Two, we really needed to
Speaker 3: execute a lot more people, you know, like you could
Speaker 3: have quashed the eugenics movement. We needed to go after
Speaker 3: a lot of people in the US. There were a
Speaker 3: lot of American fascists involved in eugenics, and after Treblinka
Speaker 3: and Auschwitz, we really just should have cleaned house, and
Speaker 3: instead we let all of these people get into think tanks.
Speaker 2: I'm going to close with a quote from the Atlantic
Speaker 2: here quote. When Trump was swaying to music at a
Speaker 2: surreal rally, he did so in front of a huge slogan,
Speaker 2: trump was right about everything. This is the language borrow
Speaker 2: directly from Mussolini, the Italian fascist. Soon after the rally,
Speaker 2: the scholar Ruth ben Gate posted a photograph of a
Speaker 2: building in Mussolini's Italy displaying the slogan Mussolini is always right.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, And that reminded me of what you said
Speaker 2: earlier about how these people just always wanted to be right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's the that's the core of it.
Speaker 2: Similarly, like people can surrender their own individual ego and
Speaker 2: substitute it with this image of Trump right, Trump was
Speaker 2: right about everything.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: Anyway, this is kind of what I wanted to put together,
Speaker 2: just focusing on on all of these things, because I mean,
Speaker 2: as much as you know, foreign policy in America is
Speaker 2: always kind of fucked. Domestic policy, I think, does often
Speaker 2: get changed based on who is in office. And this
Speaker 2: is what we're going to be dealing with these four years,
Speaker 2: especially with Miller taking a larger and larger role inside
Speaker 2: the White House.
Speaker 3: We sure are, so everybody, buckle up.
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