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Speaker 1: Okay. Podcast starts now. Hello everyone, and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Earnestness Bonanza. First, before we get into it, I have

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Speaker 1: you guessed it an announcement. Our live show is coming

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Speaker 1: up on July eight. Um, this is the end of

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Speaker 1: our second season. The show is going to um mark

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Speaker 1: the end, and it's just gonna be so fun. I

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Speaker 1: simply cannot wait to uh gab gab, Gab gab gab.

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Speaker 1: It's at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn July. Tickets I believe

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Speaker 1: are still available, and no, we haven't checked in on

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Speaker 1: it's almost held out. But I'm also not gonna lie

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Speaker 1: and say we're not settling an actually have no idea.

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Speaker 1: We just don't. So I'm just not going to say that.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing with how confident we are is like

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Speaker 1: that it will sell out and honey, it has in

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Speaker 1: the past. Okay, so please get tickets. Um, we would

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Speaker 1: love to see all our glamorista's in attendance, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have some hats for sale built to I know

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Speaker 1: some people want some hats. Oh yeah, we need to.

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Speaker 1: This is a larger conversation, but let's just say we're

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Speaker 1: trying to get rid of this round of merch so

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Speaker 1: we can potentially have a new era coming out. Um

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Speaker 1: and I know we've said this, but just flagging that

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Speaker 1: it is on a Friday, so it's gonna be I

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Speaker 1: think it's maybe our first live show that's ever been

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Speaker 1: on a Friday, the best day to have a live show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for flagging that. I will definitely put a

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Speaker 1: important to to note, because it's unfortunately true that a

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Speaker 1: And you know what else, a show on a Friday

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Speaker 1: when you get to late show territory, honey, people are tired.

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Speaker 1: They've had a work week, and count me as one

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Speaker 1: kind of worked out in our favor, and to be honest,

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Speaker 1: at first, we were like we should do a Pride show.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, you stupid whores in fact doing

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Speaker 1: it in the beginning of July. In fact, a week

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Speaker 1: after Pride, when people have done Pride, have you know,

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Speaker 1: made the difficult decisions of which events to go to?

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Speaker 1: The deeply personal, in fact, decisions probably everyone has to

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Speaker 1: make for themselves of which events to go to, you know, July. Hey,

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Speaker 1: So I'd say this is our longest promo yet, and

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Speaker 1: I stand by it. Actually think it's our best promo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I need to I could. I could go for hours,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have special guests and we haven't announced them

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Speaker 1: in on ticket sales. Yeah, we literally don't know how

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Speaker 1: many tickets we have sold, but we guarantee their big

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Speaker 1: stars And truly, if you are a fan of our podcast,

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Speaker 1: And this is so many people that have been on

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Speaker 1: the podcast are identifies critically acclaimed that what I'm about

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Speaker 1: to say. Yes, so this episode is an earnest bananza.

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Speaker 1: This is the episode where we dropped the act and

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Speaker 1: earnestly answer questions from you are beloved listeners. So we've

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Speaker 1: done this a few times, probably like three or four times,

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Speaker 1: and just a little plug. If you enjoy hearing us

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Speaker 1: speak without desperately attempting to be funny, you can also

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Speaker 1: subtribe to the patron or we do this essentially once

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Speaker 1: also discussed it earnestly. The one problem is that you'll

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Speaker 1: hear no jokes on the patron that's um. If only

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Speaker 1: that were true, if only we could help ourselves, only

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Speaker 1: that were true. But they ooze out of us like lava,

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Speaker 1: we we we solicited questions and we're literally just gonna

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Speaker 1: how about you kick it off? Well, So we're taking

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Speaker 1: a break for the summer, and when we are coming

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Speaker 1: back late summer early fall, we will be part of

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Speaker 1: the Big Money Players Network, which is extremely exciting for us.

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Speaker 1: We're very excited. It's the not to brack, but it

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Speaker 1: one of our comedy idols, Will Ferrell, and one of

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Speaker 1: our frankly straight culture idols. Will Ferrell will now be

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Speaker 1: our boss and daddy. Yeah, and um, it's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long road of making this podcast in

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Speaker 1: That's a great idea for Will. Did you ever think

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Speaker 1: we need to be seating territory to the streets. The

427
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Speaker 1: humor lists might see each week's episode is more ground loss,

428
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: but perhaps the obsession with visibility betrays a deep insecurity.

429
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: The show embraces what is foreign in origin but painfully

430
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: familiar to us with humor. But wait, am I doing

431
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: this wrong? No, you're doing great. I actually love the

432
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: form head of this email because because our dear friend

433
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: George clearly is emailing in order to to to make

434
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: an argument. And then at the end it's like, anyway,

435
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: here's a question, so that this gets read on air.

436
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: Keep going, Okay, The show embracelet is foreign in origin,

437
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: but painfully familiar to us, with humor, bewilderment, and occasional appreciation.

438
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: Only when we both acknowledge and even increase the chasm

439
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: between us and them can we tackle the anxious assimilation machine.

440
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: I just want to say, George, congratulations on your literal

441
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: Nobel prize that we are sending you in the mail.

442
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: I I love when people, Um, I love when people

443
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: intellectualize the podcast because it makes me feel small order

444
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: because I can pretend that it was intentional. Yeah. I'm

445
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: always like, that's what you get out of it. But no.

446
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: But and sometimes I'll listen back and I'm like, oh, yeah,

447
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: this is brilliant. Yeah. Anyhow, time to create a deranged questions.

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Speaker 1: This email might be right on air. Imagine you're producing

449
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: Gaideo Lab, who are the straight host you would choose

450
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: to explore a queer culture? I mean, again, another genius

451
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: question you go first. Okay, I'm trying to think if

452
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: we're thinking like people basically, I mean, this is like

453
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: almost a cop out, but I'm like, I wanted to

454
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Speaker 1: be Jeremy and Raggatt, Oh my god, I wanted to

455
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: be Jeremy. And that's a genius answer. Yeah, I think

456
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Speaker 1: Jeremy and Regatte hosting Gaydeo Lab where they explore gay culture,

457
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: would be literally the best possible podcast I can think of. Honestly,

458
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: they should. We should do it at a special episode

459
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: where they are the host and we are the guests.

460
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: I completely agree and I cannot wait for that. That

461
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: is such a great answer. Wow, I think we should

462
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: just move on then. All right, okay, this is from

463
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: This is from Angelina who do who? As a fellow

464
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: girl Braschio, Okay, slay, I struggle with my job being

465
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Speaker 1: a thing I actually enjoyed doing. How do you find

466
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: the best work life balance and set boundaries? Are you

467
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: ever truly off the comedy clock? Well? What a classic question.

468
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: Let's classic? I mean the Eternal Struggle? Oh and that

469
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: actually Angelina recommends future guests Brendan Scannell and Elissa Stonahaw

470
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: who I would both of them I would love to have.

471
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: We have to have. I love, I love Brendon. Elyssa

472
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: is so cookie and funny. Yeah. I used to have

473
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: a joke with Alyssa that I would start a podcast

474
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: where you would honestly shiit talk people and like using

475
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: first and last name. But it would go away, like

476
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: it would only be available for like twenty minutes at

477
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: a time, be like a snapchat show. And then I

478
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: was like, why am I so bitter? Let's move on. No,

479
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: but that's class. Alissa is someone you can talk to

480
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: it with, which is great. And Brendan is also so

481
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: funny and quite frankly so hot. And I kind of

482
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: thought because I thought that he would for some reason

483
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: not be a nice person. And then I met him

484
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: in l A and I was like, you are the

485
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: sweetest guy I've ever met. My line, he's insanely nice.

486
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: I actually sorry, Brendon, I thought the same thing. I

487
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: was like, he's gonna be mean, And when I met him,

488
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: he was like so nice. I met him once and

489
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: then I met him like a year later and he

490
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 1: was like, how's Misha, And I was like, you are

491
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: so nice? It's insane. Okay, alright, work life balance, Um,

492
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: I am bad at this me too. I feel in comedy,

493
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: at least for me, I was so concerned with making

494
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: it and sort of being like, well, it's not work.

495
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: This is because in comedy you have to work outside

496
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: of work, because you have to have a job to

497
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: make money. And then you have to go do comedy,

498
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: and so I was like, well, it's it's you're just

499
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: always gonna be going, going, going, And then now I'm

500
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: sort of like, oh wait, this is kind of unsustainable,

501
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: and so it's a question I'm trying to figure out,

502
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: I would argue. And also, our social life is part

503
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: of it. It's it's all interestwined. Well, it's also I'm

504
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, let's I'm thinking of someone like you. It's like, well,

505
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: you got a writing job that is very much like

506
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: the fruit of your labors from all these years, but

507
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: you still have to do stand up at night. It's

508
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: not like, well, now you finally got this job, so

509
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: you no longer have to work outside of those hours.

510
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: Like if anything, the goal is basically to fill every

511
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: second of your day with some form of comedy, writing otherwise,

512
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: and if you don't, you will literally miss out on opportunities.

513
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: You will literally miss out on opportunities, you will fall back,

514
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's it's crazy, very difficult. And

515
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: I look at even like friends, because I I love

516
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: to look at others and see who's doing it well

517
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: and see who manages it well. And I actually am

518
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: kind of at a loss for that. Like I'm like, oh,

519
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: I cannot think of a single person. I can think

520
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: of one who I think manages it well. I don't

521
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: know if it's toxing to say, I feel like Julio

522
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: is actually really really good at work life balance, but

523
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: also it's so productive. Here's the secret to work life balance.

524
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: And listen, this is just if you are like attempting

525
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: something that is near impossible, and so you have to

526
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: work very hard, which I wish I didn't want. I

527
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: wish I had much simpler goals and then I would

528
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: be very good at work life balance in fact. But um,

529
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: I think like the only way to have good work

530
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: life balance if you are someone like Julio is too

531
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: when it is time for work, be insanely productive. Yeah,

532
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: and I am consciously trying to work on that, but

533
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm bad at it. I'm so bad at it. I'm

534
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: really bad at it. I Also, I've talked about this before,

535
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: but like the my job at Gawker, which I love,

536
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: is very like all consuming during the day, Like I

537
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: can't you know when you think of something as simple

538
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: as like oh I have to do this simple you know,

539
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: I have to buy plane tickets or I have to

540
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: um do some other emails during work hours. I kind

541
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: of don't feel like I have time to do that

542
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: often because there's it's just basically like a constant stream

543
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: of finding things, assigning them, editing them, and whatever. So

544
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: in some ways, I do feel like I have good

545
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: work life balance in terms of Gawker and not Gocker,

546
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: because after I'm done for the day, I I'm pretty

547
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: good at not thinking about the website. But then that's

548
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: when I theoretically need to be doing comedy stuff. So

549
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't know where the life part comes into it.

550
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: It's kind of work and then a different kind of work. Yeah,

551
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: and yet I feel like I never accomplish anything. Isn't

552
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: that funny? It is funny. Yeah, it's hilarious. It's really funny.

553
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm laughing. I yesterday, like the airline tickets thing. Yesterday,

554
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: I needed to call my insurance, like I needed to

555
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: pick up a prescription and my insurance wasn't working because

556
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: I switched insurances, and I was like, I do not

557
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: have this. Like I was like, I'm gonna have a meltdown.

558
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: Like I was like to take like an hour to

559
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: do something like that. I was like, I just feel

560
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm bad at I'm so basically I'm saying I'm bad

561
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: at this. Yeah. I also, I mean, talk about this

562
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: is humiliating. What I'm about to say. I have not

563
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: filed therapy claims for which I would make maybe over

564
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars, like I would win back over a

565
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I mean, I still have time, so I

566
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: am going to do it before the deadline. But it

567
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: has been many many months of me just like putting

568
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: it on my to do list and putting it again,

569
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: and I and it's like money I need and I

570
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: could very much benefit from. If there's one thing that

571
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: always falls through the cracks, it is basically like errands,

572
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: because I'll convince myself that when I do have a

573
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: night free, I deserve to like watch a movie or

574
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: cook dinner or see friends, because that's like I have

575
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: to like seize the day. And then I literally never

576
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: do the things they need to do that are not

577
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: work related. Yeah, so Angelina, our advice is, um, good luck. Yeah, yeah,

578
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: let's do Angelina straight shooters. And then there's actually another

579
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: straight shoot write after this, Docks in Dock sing or

580
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: Doc Martin's And the next one is Hayley Williams, Hayley Steinfeld,

581
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: Hayley's comment or halle Berry's Catwoman. Wait, you should answer mine.

582
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go doxing and I'm gonna go halle Berry's Catwoman. Okay,

583
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: let's and let's do the next one to do you

584
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: want to ask me? This is from Aviva Brat's Dolls

585
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: or bratt War Sausage, brat War Sausage. All right. This

586
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: is from Cassidy. I am both a Georgina and a Semista,

587
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: love you both. Thank you, Chica. I um tried to

588
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: turn the tables and ask Georgie a horny questions, Sam

589
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: a brainy question, but it turns out I want to

590
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: ask you both horny questions. Oh that's okay. Always welcome, George.

591
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a moment in your life that

592
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: was a sexual awakening, Any moments you have surprised yourself

593
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: learning something new about your sexuality? M hm hm wow,

594
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: um m hmm. To be honest, I feel like the

595
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: sexual awakenings have been it's like very uh simple, which

596
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: is just like locker room contexts both in even like

597
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: earlier in middle school. I think I've potentially talked about this,

598
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: but my swim coach in middle school was this like

599
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: six ft five Australian guy named Tristan with like a

600
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: truly four foot penis that would just like change in

601
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: front of everyone in the locker room and I'd be like, oh,

602
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: I I must have a photo of that framed in

603
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: my apartment. I loved that as a child, you were

604
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: dreaming of your apartment. Well, it's just like he was

605
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: like literally a character out of like a you know,

606
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: like Tom of Finland, Tom of Finland type print. And

607
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: then I've also I think I've also talked about this

608
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: in a previous Earnest Bonanza, but I was randomly really

609
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: turned on by Greg Kenere and um as good as

610
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: It Guts, who played a gay character, and I think

611
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: there was one point where you can see his but

612
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: and I'll say this, my sexual weakening has come from

613
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: slowly just having better sex in my mid to late

614
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: twenties and then like actually discovering what I like and

615
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: being like, wow, sex, Like I've always known sex was fun,

616
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: but you know it could be that's fun? You know?

617
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every it's every day you learn something new. Honey.

618
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: We're always growing and even changing. Sam, can you talk

619
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: more about your roots of your dad fetish. I am

620
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: a lesbian and kind of have the same thing with mommy's.

621
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: It provides me endless fun to explore the cultural roots

622
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: of that, and I'd love to hear some of your roots. Um.

623
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't know where that comes from. I think from

624
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: maybe it's like I've tried to analyze myself a little bit.

625
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: And two theories. One is that like, because of homophobe

626
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: be uh, I was scared of like sexualizing my friends

627
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: because I was like what if they find out? And

628
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: so it was like it was easier and cleaner to

629
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: like sexualize like older people because they weren't in my

630
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: community of my age group. And then the other theory,

631
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: which is maybe more accurate, is like being on like

632
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: community swim team and being in the why when you're

633
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: like twelve and seeing full grown men's dicks and sort

634
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: of having that be like a sexual um awakening and

635
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: being like, Oh, that's the like that four year old

636
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Speaker 1: man is doing something for me. And then it was

637
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I guess that's what I'm into now.

638
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's it, but hey, who knows.

639
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Okay, So Brand asks if you could

640
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: do it all again, what if anything, would you do differently?

641
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: This is a tough question. I'm really trying to run

642
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: through everything. I actually feel I would not when it

643
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: comes to the podcast, I would not change a damn thing.

644
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are we talking about the podcast? Oh?

645
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: Is that not what we're talking about? I thought, literally,

646
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: if you could do it all again, like our lives, Yeah,

647
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: that's why I was like, no, yeah, otherwise I would

648
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: not be so um in terms of the podcast. Honestly,

649
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: I would not do anything differently. I mean, now you

650
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: could argue like maybe we could have like been at

651
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: at times more organized, more organized about like timing and

652
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: booking guests or something, but like ultimately everything turned out fine. Wait,

653
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: well now I want the bigger question, the life question. Yeah,

654
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. This is basic. I think I

655
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: would come out of the closet earlier. That's no, No,

656
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: that's fair. That's I wish I had done that. That's fair.

657
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: I do think even though so many of my decisions

658
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: lead to me. Essentially, I've had many almost false starts

659
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: in my life, Like I was going to be in

660
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna be in tech. Then I

661
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: quit that I was going to be in academia. Then

662
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: I quit that I was gonna you know, like I

663
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: I've said, I've tried something for anywhere between like six

664
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: months to three years and then decided it's not for me.

665
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: But I don't regret any of that because I think, right,

666
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: I hope at least that it has given me somewhat

667
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: of a perspective that someone else doesn't have, that doesn't

668
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: have those experiences. Honestly, the biggest regrets in my life

669
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: not regrets, but the things I would change are literally

670
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: just like be more sexually confident in promiscus in my twenties.

671
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: So that's one, and then two, I think, like maybe

672
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: try do a better job of both talking to family

673
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: and maintaining friendships that are not very easy to maintain,

674
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: Like do a better job of like keeping up correspondences

675
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: with people or being like, you know, I and very

676
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: close to my grandparents, but it's very easy for me

677
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: to like justify it in my head as like, oh God,

678
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: because of the time difference, I forgot to call them,

679
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: so I guess it's gonna have to be next weekend.

680
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, if I just was focused and

681
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: organized about that, I could call them every Saturday morning

682
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: and like it would make them so happy, and I

683
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: it's very easy for me to do. So I think

684
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: those are the two things I would do differently. And

685
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: I would sign up for a dance class at a

686
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: young age. Damn, I actually feel I actually felt that

687
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: I would have. We talked about this. I always felt

688
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: that with no evidence except that I'm actually naturally incredibly flexible,

689
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: which a lot of people don't know. I didn't know that. Um.

690
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: I think I might be double jointed. I don't really know,

691
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: but I can do like some really disgusting things with

692
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: my joints. Anyway. UM, I think that if I had

693
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: invested in my like fitness from a young age, I

694
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: could actually really be a contender. I feel I have

695
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: such natural rhythm and a joy of movement. A I

696
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: actually remember almost wanting to sign up for dance classes

697
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: as like a kid, and being like, m I'm not

698
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: allowed to do that, And so that's where we are.

699
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: But but honey, I'm self taught, and and here we are.

700
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Okay, okay, this is from Gina, longtime

701
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: glamour girl. Here Sam, can we get a detailed review

702
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: of Chromatica and or don of Chromatica. Now that chromatic

703
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: A ball is nearly upon us, fave least fave songs,

704
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: what will especially go off live, etcetera. George, I'll have

705
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts too, though you're less of a

706
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: little monster? No, who is your gaga? Um? I mean,

707
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do a detailed review because I stand.

708
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I stand harder than I've ever stand before. I the

709
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: way the mental health crisis of the pandemic coincided with

710
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: the release of Chromatica, I will never not stand. And

711
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for the concert. I genuinely think about

712
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: the Chromatica one into Alice and her saying my name

713
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: and me just starting to cry. I see it, I

714
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: feel it, it will happen. Yeah, so I think. Yeah,

715
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I hope she plays the entire album.

716
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: If there are any skips, I will be upset. And

717
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: that's my review. And can I just say, um, I

718
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: know that you know I am less of a little

719
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: monster than Sam, but this idea that I am not

720
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: a little monster is actually hurtful and homophobic. And I

721
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: know that it is my fault that that someone might

722
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: think that because you know, sometimes Sam and I have

723
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: to like think of things to disagree on just for

724
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: the sake of the podcast. It's an issue with both

725
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: sides and media exactly exactly. It's very much like, well

726
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: there are enough pro bide and voices on TV, so

727
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: maybe I'll become pro Trump. But I just for the record,

728
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: I do love Lady Gaga and I am but I'm

729
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm less. I think Sam, you love you

730
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: just love this Dan mentality, and it like it's like

731
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: it's just like a thing that brings you joy. Whereas

732
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: I love kind of being a hater. Yeah yeah, and

733
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: I'll do that even to people that I respect. But

734
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 1: what I here's my official First of all, I agree

735
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: about Alice, but my official stance on Chromatica is justice

736
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: for the nine one one music video. And I've always

737
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: said this, so this from the first second. The nine

738
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: one one music video was what we were all waiting

739
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: for in terms of like the in terms of literally

740
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: like fame Monster era psychotic music videos from Lady Gaga.

741
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Alajndro, I'm thinking, like you know, the paparazzi video,

742
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: the telephone video, like it was actually her being fully

743
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: old time Gaga and and not to be this person,

744
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: but y'all let it flop. I thought it was so good.

745
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: I was truly impressed. I was like, she still got it.

746
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for for her, and you know what

747
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: I can You know, we can judge her for hawking

748
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: her terrible makeup line and probably like taking some terrible

749
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: movie role so she can win an oscar. But the

750
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: reason she's doing that is because no one cared about

751
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: the music video. Yeah, you all let her fail. And

752
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: you know What's I'm complicit too? Did I share it

753
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: on social media to my community of followers. No, I

754
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: mean I have watched that video over one million times,

755
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: so I actually don't feel like I'm complicit in it flopping.

756
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: But that being said, I should have We should have

757
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: done more. We could have done more. Vote harder, vote

758
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: harder now more than ever. All right? Next question, This

759
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: is from Emily who says. Emily says that they are

760
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: from Shiphole, Utah Fellas. My friend Helen and I have

761
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: an ongoing discussion about the rights and responsibilities of celebrities

762
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: treat use in the works, and I'd love to know

763
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Do you think the rich and famous have

764
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: obligation to the public. Should they be allowed to bitch

765
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: about doom want and the paps? Should their children be

766
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 1: allowed in show business? By letting Ben and Gen get married,

767
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: are we encouraging wealth consolidation? Can I force bo Burnham

768
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: to release the tax returns if he wants to keep

769
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: singing about systems of depression? Say that? Say that, and

770
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: and then she's turning it towards us. Do you already

771
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: feel some level of fame obligation? What does that look

772
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: like for you? Anyway, in a perfect role, we would

773
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: all have our needs met through an anarcho capitalist structure

774
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: and wouldn't have a system where celebrity is what it is.

775
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to figure out what it would look

776
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: like if we address celebrity through fascism instead. Okay, okay,

777
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: lot no, No, I'm I'm I'm curious. I'm intellectually curious. Um.

778
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: This is something that as someone who spends a big

779
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: chuck of their day editing celebrity blogs, I actually think

780
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: about all the time. And to be honest, my I

781
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: guess my view of it is changing. Some is constantly

782
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: influx what um. Right now, I am kind of in

783
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: a place where I am so disgusted by people in

784
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: actual power and think that they're evil is so much

785
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: more profound than anything celebrities do that I have less

786
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: patients than I've had in the past for these micro

787
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: disagreements about like responsibilities of celebrities to use their platform.

788
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's my final answer. That's kind of

789
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: where I am right now. Where I kind of am,

790
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: like this is very simple minded, but I'm kind of

791
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: like everything is a distraction. Everyone needs to be, you know,

792
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: trying to in some capacity. I don't know how, like

793
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: be aware of the fact that billionaires control everything and

794
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: we need to somehow find a way to bring about

795
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: their downfall. I have no suggestions, but I truly like

796
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: what I think about. I've been attempting to like read

797
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: It used to be much better about reading the news,

798
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: and then I kind of started reading, you know, just

799
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: so much of my news diet has been like culture news,

800
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: and I've been trying to go back to like reading

801
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: the ft and reading the like from page at the

802
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: Times every day, and like it's just when you're really

803
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: look at what's out there, you stop caring about whether

804
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: or not reality star said something on Instagram not to be. Yeah,

805
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a very like, almost like straight

806
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: guy thing to say, and I don't want it to

807
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: sound like dismissive. But that's just where I am right now.

808
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: I I think that makes sense. I think that's well said.

809
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: It is very complicated. I mean, like we do feel

810
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: almost like we have more control over celebrities, like celebrities

811
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: feel shame. Celebrities depend on us to like them to

812
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: have a career, and so it is like by shaming

813
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: a celebrity for not talking about an issue or or

814
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: having like a more centrist take on an issue, it's

815
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: like we feel accomplished. But it's like whereas the politicians

816
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: actually don't feel any shame, and we'll continue to And

817
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: so it does. I see what you mean. It's complicated

818
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: because I also don't want to sound I want every

819
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: actor on earth to have good politics. Um. I mean,

820
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: I've also been thinking recently about I don't know, like

821
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: actors as a job. Like I'm like, I understand that

822
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: they are public figures, but I'm also sort of being

823
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: like why, and so it's confusing. I think like, so

824
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: in that regard, I think they do have a very

825
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: real right to bitch about dumois and paparazzi, because it's like,

826
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: this is just like a job they do, Like I

827
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: bet like a lot of them want work life balance totally.

828
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: And I also think like they have a right to

829
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: bitch about those things, and we have a right to

830
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: roll our eyes at them bitching about them. Like I

831
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: think I'm a little alienated by the weight that we

832
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: put on the on what celebrities say. We're Like, if

833
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 1: someone is bitching about the paparazzi, like let's say Kim Kardashian,

834
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: someone who has corded the press her entire life, you

835
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: could I'm not saying she's asking for her privacy to

836
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: be violated, but this is like what she has wanted

837
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: her entire life. If she's bitching about the paparazzi, for instance,

838
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to like roll my eyes and be like

839
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: shut up, Kim. But I also but to me, that's

840
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: the correct reaction rather than like some huge, like kind

841
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: of like systemic take about how she represents the ills

842
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: of American culture. Like I'm kind of just like she's annoying,

843
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Like I I would love to get

844
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: to a point where celebrities just like simply are not

845
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: fault leaders at all, Like are just like these annoying

846
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: people that we are not it's not even annoying, but

847
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, these these people that like, you know, we

848
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: kind of got at when we want to read a

849
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: tabloid and then we move on with our lives. And

850
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't I should not care about if Harry Style

851
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: is like you know, I said letters fuk the police

852
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: at his concert. Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm torn on

853
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: it because I used to feel and sometimes I still do,

854
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: like I don't know writing ze right now. Like sometimes

855
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: you'll have these stars and they'll be like, oh, I

856
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: want to ask them like a really pointed question, get

857
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: them to say something, because it's like they are huge.

858
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: They could literally sway people's opinions. That's a good that's

859
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: a good point, and it's true. I mean, yes, I

860
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: do think that. Yeah, I guess maybe then I would

861
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: I would edit my answer a little bit to say,

862
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: like for big things, like I think, for an issue

863
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: where it's really about like spreading the word, so to speak,

864
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: and just like getting a message out there, then it's

865
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: really great when celebrities share their opinions. But for micro controversies,

866
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 1: I am less interested in like doing a close read

867
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: of someone's apology and and and yeah, that kind of thing.

868
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: Like I do think it is powerful when um, you know,

869
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: for I don't want to get too in the weeds

870
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: on this, but like, for instance, now following the Supreme

871
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: Court ruling, I do think it like makes a difference

872
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: if one goes online and sees that all these notable

873
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: people with a lot of money and power are you know,

874
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: angry and horrified. Like I certainly think that makes me

875
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: feel and makes anyone much more affective than we feel

876
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: less alone than if they just went on Instagram and

877
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: people were posting like a vacation photos totally. But at

878
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, you know, do I care

879
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: about like micro dramas from of like reality stars. I

880
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: don't know, but it is entertaining, and that's kind of

881
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: how I feel about it. A cock or too. I'm like, oh,

882
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: it's really fun to to publish this stuff and make

883
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: it funny and make it like and give people something

884
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of entertaining that will like make them chuckle

885
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: during their day. Yeah, all right, let's move on. This

886
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: is from Tim If called upon and everything match correctly,

887
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: which of you would give a kidney to the other first, Well,

888
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: it would depend who was called upon to do it.

889
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not just giving out my kidney, Like

890
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: there's no world. Where are we both sick? Yeah, Like

891
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: if we're both sick, we can't just trade kidneys. Let's

892
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: move on. Okay. Sorry, we love you, Tim, and we

893
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: would both give our kidney to the other if called upon,

894
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: and we do it at the exact same time, and

895
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: we do the exact same time, we say three to

896
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: one trade. Very Cronenberg. Sorry for misunderstanding your question. I'm

897
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: sure we misunderstood, but but we're allowed to. We're allowed to.

898
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: That's all right, Okay, alright, this is from Sophie Greetings

899
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: from Australia. Oh my gold from austral work. You have

900
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: truly terrible accent work. No, it's better you heard that right.

901
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: You boys have truly gone global. Your podcast is my

902
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: favorite spelled with the you of all time Mark Marin

903
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: found dead r I P. My question has to do

904
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: with George's comment on a recent episode about the name

905
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: George coming back into fashion. I'm curious to know what

906
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: you think the next big trend in baby names will

907
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: be and give some examples. Even though this is an

908
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: earnestness bananza, I do feel this will give you both

909
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get into some real great riffs. Thank you,

910
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: thank you, But also, what names do you think are nice?

911
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: Not necessarily for future progeny, but just in general. No

912
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: pressure to say, no pressure to say Sophie. Well you know,

913
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: I will say Sophie. Get this my god daughter named Sophie,

914
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: and your goddaughter who is also your cousin, also my cousin.

915
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's technically Sophia because it's Greek, but um,

916
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: she could usually go by Sophie if she wants. Totally

917
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: What names are trending right now? See, this is a

918
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: tough Sophia. I appreciate this question. I do feel it's tough.

919
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: We're not in a baby centric community. Well, you know,

920
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: I kind of am more and more really because of Matthew,

921
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: because Matthews a little older than me, Matthews close to

922
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: a lot of his college friends. Sure, sure, you know,

923
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of people we've had on No

924
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: me has a daughter. I mean I can count on

925
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: one hand the amount of people I know with children. Personally,

926
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: I definitely know a few, but I'm trying to that's

927
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: a good I'm trying to think, who do I know

928
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: that I would literally like have over for nerve, not

929
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: just acquaintances. I think know me as one Dan Dan.

930
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Of course, you know my friend Sophie who lives in

931
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, Like if I still live there, we

932
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: would be more in touch. But I honestly haven't seen

933
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: her in like seven years at this point. Yeah, whatever,

934
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through my whole role. Yeah,

935
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: what do you think? So like George being trendy, Like

936
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: I do think there's like the older names are coming,

937
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: Like it's Greta Girwick naming her son Harold exactly. Harold's

938
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: are big, Henry's are big. I think maybe Charlie's are big.

939
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: I think people want to be like it's like the

940
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: tweet nous. People want to imagine their little babies and

941
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: like little tweet jackets and um like riding a bicycle

942
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: in your Yeah, I wonder if it has to do

943
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: with also like the almost slightly ironic trad trend that's

944
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: going on right now, thinking knap dresses. I'm thinking even

945
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: like people all saying the wife or the husband semi

946
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: ironically you know what I mean, there's a certain kind

947
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: of like I think people are naturally growing up, so

948
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: they are, especially straight people getting married and having kids,

949
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: but they don't want to fully commit to being their parents,

950
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: so they're finding ways to make it cute. See millennial

951
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: parenthood millennial parent to which I say, get a grip,

952
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: you are your parents, bitch. Yeah, it's like you can't

953
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: have your too. Yeah, you can't have your cake and

954
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: eat it too, like go raise your kids. But I'm

955
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: trying to think. Okay, So that's one trend is the

956
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: one we already mentioned old timey I would say white Christian,

957
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: not even Christian, just like waspy names I guess, like

958
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: names of like men going to work at like the

959
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: company in the fifties. Yes, it's mad Men culture. It

960
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: really is mad Men culture. Oh, I bet you know

961
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: what I be. Peggy is going to make a comeback.

962
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: I met Peggy somebody. Oh my sister told me that

963
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: Charlotte is like the most popular name for girls, right

964
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: because of the royal family. Oh is that why? Probably? Yeah,

965
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: I think Charlotte, And now that I'm thinking about it,

966
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: George is the other little baby. So basically, if you

967
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: are um pulling from the British royal family. That's pretty

968
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,479
Speaker 1: much what is popular, I bet you in in terms

969
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: of the British royal family, Archie, which was kind of

970
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: an out of the box choice for them, will be huge.

971
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: I think. I mean combined with the rise of Riverdale. Yes,

972
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: oh my god, Archie and what's the other one? I

973
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: just said, Peggy, Okay that those are official predictions Archie

974
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: and Peggy. I mean it's it's literally, we're going to

975
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: get a milkshake down at the soda shop, like that's

976
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: Peggy's Archie, Peggy's. We're all going to later. I've always

977
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: like baby names have always My mom really drilled into

978
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: us as when we were kids. She was like, she

979
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: was like, you have the name of your baby is

980
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: something Greek, but that has international appeal. So like you

981
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: can't name your kid like Aristotle because that like doesn't

982
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: sound good if they moved to the UK. But you

983
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: can name your kid like like my sisters are Lydia

984
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: and Christina like the you know they can easily like

985
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: live wherever your mom is. I've always really pr woman

986
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: she is. She's a girl boss. It has to have

987
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: international appeal. The market one of the markets in China

988
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: going to think of that exactly? Uh, this is from Sophie.

989
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't the last one Sophie? Multiple Sophies. Well yeah, there's

990
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: a different Sophie and again you know what else, it's

991
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: crazy they have the same initials. Okay, that is insane.

992
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: And they emailed us within like a few hours of

993
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: one another. This is not interesting that anyone except us. Okay,

994
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm a technical recruiter and a d e I adviser

995
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: for a company. Here comes the dragon. I'm absolutely miserable.

996
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: I love the people that I work with, but the

997
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: responsibilities and work it entails does not equal the amount

998
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm compensated. So I think it's time to leave. But

999
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: I do not want to be a recruiter anywhere else

1000
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: unless it's Google. I want to go into data analysis

1001
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: with then d I, but I don't know where to start,

1002
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: and doing a Google certification, but don't know if it

1003
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: will even pay off. Any advice for someone trying to

1004
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: make a career change tuld I just stay in the

1005
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: same space, but somewhere else. Help. I'm lost, Love it,

1006
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: love it. I can attempt this since I know many

1007
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: people who are technical recruiters, below it or not. Oh please,

1008
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: I would love that, although I guess my answer would

1009
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: not be that specific to the tech thing, but I

1010
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: do just kind of feel first of all, many people

1011
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: right now are considering career changes, so you're not alone,

1012
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: and um, I think it is nice to be at

1013
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: a place where you feel like you've gotten what you

1014
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: want to get out of one field and you want

1015
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: to like explore more. What's nice about being doing something

1016
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: like technical recruiting is that presumably work at a company

1017
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: that has people working in all other different departments and stuff.

1018
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: So if it's not too awkward, I would try to

1019
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: like talk to people doing other kinds of jobs within

1020
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: your company and have like informational interviews so that you

1021
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: can kind of see what else is out there. Otherwise,

1022
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I do feel like the best thing you

1023
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: can do is think of people in your life whose

1024
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: careers you look up to, you look up to and

1025
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: think are kind of realistic for you to try to emulate,

1026
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: and then just talk to them. I actually wasted many

1027
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: months and years of my life not asking people more

1028
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: questions about how things get done because you think you're

1029
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna sound annoying or you think you're gonna sound ignorant

1030
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: or you think like it's going to create some kind

1031
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: of hierarchy between you and your friend because they're going

1032
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: to see you as less successful or something. I really

1033
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: think the best thing to do is to just come

1034
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: out and uh and talk to people. Yeah, And I

1035
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: think that was a beautiful answer. That's why George crushed

1036
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: it in our meeting. And I think, um, yeah, if

1037
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: you feel like you want to move on, I think

1038
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: that's usually a good sign that you should move on. Yeah,

1039
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: let's go over to the next question. All right, Okay,

1040
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: this is for me. Okay, this is from Sianna and

1041
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: the question is is Janice is hot? This is an

1042
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: important question I'll say this about. Oh yeah, Jana Fatis

1043
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: was a huge figure in the Greek government when when

1044
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: the financial crisis and the austerity crisis were at their worst.

1045
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: And he is kind of like, um, he's a left

1046
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: wing politician in the who was in this series of government,

1047
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: which is a government that was empowered during like the

1048
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: Greek referendum and stuff. And he was I'm trying to

1049
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: remember Minister of Finance. I was like, how what I could?

1050
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember if it was called like Secretary of

1051
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: Treasury and Greece or it's called Minister of Finance, so

1052
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: he was a Minister of finance. I think people really

1053
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: appreciated how outspoken he was about austerity measures, and he

1054
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: also had a kind of vibe where he would like

1055
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: write a motorcycle around and wear a T shirt and

1056
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: it was kind of like a cool guy. And I

1057
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: think that I don't want to get to into the

1058
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: weeds of um of that administration in Greece, but I

1059
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: think that a lot of people who like followed this

1060
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: news from the US, like don't have a full context

1061
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: of of like Greek history and Greek politics. And so

1062
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: while I think he was like a really important figure

1063
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: and I completely appreciate the kind of energy he brought,

1064
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: I have slightly more complex feelings about him as someone

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: whose family was affected by the crisis and stuff. Um

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01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: Having said that, is he hot unfortunately, Yes, he has

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01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: kind of a poor ni ish vibe to him. Yeah,

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01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: he's like he's hot, there's no way around it. It

1069
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: also just like he unfortunately, I think he since then

1070
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: has become kind of a thought leader. I think one

1071
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: thing that bothers me about him, I'm sorry to say,

1072
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: is just that like he was like a professor in

1073
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: the States and then basically went to Greece to do

1074
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: this kind of left things worse than they were and

1075
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: then went back to being like essentially like a thought

1076
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: leader in like leftist politics. And I'm kind of like

1077
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: staying greet like invest in the invest in the country.

1078
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: If your whole thing is like being this like fearless

1079
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: truth teller, you know what I mean, shop local. Yeah. Like,

1080
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: It's not that I disagree with his politics at all,

1081
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: That's not my issue with him. There's just something that's

1082
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: a little that I found a little sleazy, where it's

1083
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: like he cares more about his personal brand than than

1084
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: any kind of grassroots work he's doing. Anyway, Okay, that's enough.

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Speaker 1: Is this from? This is from Cecil? Do you think

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01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying that right? Yes? Yeah. Would you ever consider

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01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: doing a boyfriend's episode where your domestic partners are the

1088
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: guests or do you ultimately think it would destroy the

1089
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: trust and comfort you have built up in your relationships

1090
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: over the years. I would be not opposed. I think

1091
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 1: it would be a it could be a nightmare, But

1092
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: mostly I worry see Misha, he's shy, and I think

1093
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: but I also think he creates the spotlight in ways

1094
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: that he doesn't quite understand, so part of me I

1095
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: think it would be fun to have him on Very interesting.

1096
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: What do you think about? What do you think about this?

1097
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I I'm very like, um, I almost feel

1098
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: embarrassed to think about whether someone is interested in our

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01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: personal lives, if that makes sense. Like it's like, I

1100
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: feel like it's so presumptuous to be like, Wow, isn't

1101
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: it interesting that we're talking to our boyfriends or something?

1102
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: But of course I get the appeal of it. Um,

1103
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: and like both of them would be very funny on

1104
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,479
Speaker 1: the pod, and I'm not ruling it out, but I'm

1105
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: kind of like, i'n't know. It makes me feel weird.

1106
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: Well that's that. But if you want to listen to

1107
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: Matthew on a podcast, he did how Long Gone? And

1108
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: he also recently did the New York Times book podcast, Wow,

1109
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know that? Yeah, okay, this is from dj

1110
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 1: I the Summer for Forgetful Girls kicks off. I can't

1111
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: help but wonder what advice would you give your twenty

1112
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: five year old self, especially re dating and love. Also,

1113
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: do you think the perfect for pride will make someone

1114
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: fall in love with me. Um, well, I guess my

1115
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: advice to myself would be like, chill out, like I

1116
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: think I was. I was, especially when I first went

1117
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: to New York. I was like, get a boyfriend, date, date, date,

1118
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: and I was just like going on dates to go

1119
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: on dates, and I was like, this is stupid. Also,

1120
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: like I think when you're twenty five, you think like, oh,

1121
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five, Time to be a grown up, and

1122
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, babe, you're just getting started. Chill out.

1123
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: The people that get in a relationship at twenty three

1124
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: and like stick with it. It's like, oh, there, you

1125
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: might as well have a high school sweetheart. Yeah. I

1126
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 1: guess my answer would be as much as I love

1127
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: my parents to death, they really instilled in us this

1128
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: like almost belligerent ethos of striving or not just strive,

1129
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: but like planning ahead, like my mom would. When I

1130
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: didn't know what I wanted to do, for instance, and I,

1131
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, oh, maybe I want to

1132
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: go to law school, maybe I wanna go to I

1133
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: don't know, business school, whatever, she was like, well, okay,

1134
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: you want to go to law school. Definitely get an

1135
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: engineering degree first, just so you have like a technical

1136
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: background because that will help you later on, and then

1137
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: you can go to law school, but you'll like but

1138
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: you will have spent like those four years of college,

1139
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: like really like learning a discipline rather than just writing novels,

1140
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, like, and I to be honest, as much

1141
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: as I have kind of tried to and learn a

1142
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: version of that over the last decade or whatever, part

1143
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: of me still essentially believes it, which is like crazy,

1144
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: Like part of me is still like, you know, it's

1145
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: this kind of um you know, you you want to

1146
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: be as productive as possible at each stage and always

1147
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: be like consciously putting building blocks on top of one

1148
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 1: another so that no moment is wasted. And so I

1149
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: think that smilar to your thing about chilling out. I

1150
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: would say, it's not this um straightforward path that you're

1151
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna be on, Like you have to be open. You

1152
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: basically have to be open to uh, serendipity and surprise

1153
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: encounters and surprise decisions and almost kind of have faith

1154
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: that things not always but that sometimes things will come

1155
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: your way. Like when you look at the future and

1156
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, there are no opportunities. I

1157
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing and nothing and nothing is happening.

1158
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: If you keep persevering, like it'll eventually it all uh,

1159
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 1: something will happen. Yeah, and let's say that, yeah next

1160
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: to you. All right, okay, So this is actually, I

1161
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: think an interesting one. This is from Blake. Really made

1162
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: me laugh. Yeah, this is from Blake, and I think that, um,

1163
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: based on this email, my guests would be that Blake

1164
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: is a gay man. But I also don't want to assume,

1165
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: so I will read the There are three emails. One says,

1166
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: I eventually want to have a kid, and part of

1167
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: me wants to ask my sisters to freeze her eggs

1168
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: for me. But is that weird? Then Blake says, holy

1169
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: sh it, it's like I work for a nonprofit and

1170
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: she lives in the Midwest. And then the third one is, wait,

1171
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: it would have to be my lover's nut. I don't

1172
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: like this weirdly enough. This is actually like a thing

1173
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: to think about. It's like one of those weird hacks,

1174
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: not hacks, but like one of those weird things when

1175
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: you're a gay guy with a sister. We're like maybe,

1176
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: but also no, yeah, I mean like in some ways,

1177
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: it's it's the perfect crime, and then in other ways

1178
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I don't want that, that's disgusting. But

1179
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: then you're like, well maybe, yeah, I mean go off.

1180
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: But I guess I don't even know what the question is.

1181
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, the question is it's I mean,

1182
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: it's not Blake is asking should Blake's sister freeze her

1183
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: eggs in order to then grant Blake and his lever children,

1184
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: and then Blake is second guessing, Okay, let's plan. I

1185
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: mean I would say, yes, it's a little weird, but like,

1186
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: so is everything about being like okay, right, Like you

1187
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: also like use your butt for sex, like almost exclusively,

1188
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: I would say, don't do it. I would yeah, if

1189
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: if you're waiting for us, I would say, I'd say,

1190
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it's a no for me, dog, Yeah,

1191
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to invest. But it is complicated, it is.

1192
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where, much like a lot

1193
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: of queer family stuff, where you're like, wait a minute,

1194
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: how much of this is like weird things I have

1195
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: to unlearn how much of it is actually like legitimate.

1196
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: I genuinely don't know. Yeah, I don't know either, And

1197
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: to be quite frank, the idea of having kids is

1198
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: truly something where I'm like, I talk about planning ahead,

1199
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm like the logistics that sounds so daunting that I

1200
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: cannot think about it until I'm literally until I literally

1201
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: want a child this second, which is not the right

1202
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: way to go about it. It's hard to tell. I mean,

1203
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: you being like, holy sh it, it's forty I'm like, yeah,

1204
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: you can't have a child the list and this is wrong,

1205
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: but this is how I feel in my mind, and like,

1206
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: you can't have a child as you have like two

1207
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: million dollars in the bank, Like what are you so

1208
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: we actually can't get into this because one of the

1209
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: most expensive things you can get. Yes, it's just nuts.

1210
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: How it's truly nuts how easy it is to produce

1211
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: a child if you're straight, well, even then you have

1212
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: to pay like hospital bills. And I'm not saying easy financially.

1213
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like just the fact that it's like

1214
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: whoop sees it happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.

1215
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: This is from Ben. Question one, According to people who

1216
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: make their thing liking movies and TV, movies and TV

1217
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of problems right now. In your opinions,

1218
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: what is in a better place currently movies or TV?

1219
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 1: Who is eating cold? Truly incredible question. Um let's start there. Great,

1220
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: what do you think? I don't know if it's again

1221
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: sometimes my emotions get the better of me. My gut

1222
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: reaction is that actually TV is totally flopping and movies

1223
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: are eating. I could not agree more with the one

1224
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: caveat that, Like, then you go and look at showtimes

1225
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: and it's literally all uh sequels and reboots. But if

1226
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: we're taking those out, like let's say we're comparing original

1227
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: movies and TV, than original movies are eating. Yeah. I

1228
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: also do think there's more of a backlash growing to

1229
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: the marvel of the Star Wars and so I think

1230
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: people are really valuing as a community those original releases. Totally.

1231
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,919
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. It's because movies are actually

1232
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: flopping as a genre. People are really excited when a

1233
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: good one comes out. Yeah. Yeah. And TV. I'm like,

1234
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm mad at TV right now. There's just so much

1235
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh, you have to see it, and

1236
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm like do I know you don't and no one does.

1237
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: Literally literally cancel all TV until we can figure out

1238
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: what's going on. I swear to God, I swear to God,

1239
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: I talk about talk about like low low brow, like

1240
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: middle brow inanity, like absolutely, I mean it's truly just like, oh,

1241
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: you're shooting this well, so you think I'm gonna believe

1242
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: it's good. I don't believe it's good. Oh you cast

1243
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: really important people, so I'm supposed to just trust you

1244
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: know this sucks. No, No, get over yourself, Get over yourselves.

1245
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: I am so angry at TV um having said that

1246
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: available for staffing anytime. Yes, would love to staff, cast,

1247
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: and even create. Both of us have pilots. I'll say

1248
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: this about movies, like I was talking to Sam about

1249
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: this during our Patreon episode. But I recently went to

1250
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: see that movie Memoria with Tilda Swinton, which is like

1251
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: the whole gimmick is that it plays for one week

1252
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: at a time in each city and it just is

1253
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: going to tour around forever. And like when I walk

1254
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: out of that movie, it definitely had its ups and downs,

1255
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: but I was like, TV can never do this. I'm sorry.

1256
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: I know that's like controversial to be like to say

1257
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 1: one form is inherently better than the other, but like

1258
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: some things are you know, only cinema can do. I'm sorry.

1259
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: It's also so much like quote unquote Prestige TV right

1260
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: now is just like a movie that they made too long,

1261
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, let's cut this down, girlies. Yeah TV,

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Speaker 1: you are unnoticed, ohficily Okay. And the part two. If

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Speaker 1: you were stopped on the street by one of those

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: people who ask people what they're listening to on their headphones,

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: what would you most likely be listening to? And what

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01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: artists would you most want to tell the world you're

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01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: listening to. This is such a funny, fun question, great question.

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Speaker 1: I love it, George, do you have an answer? Because

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm now looking at my phone. I mean, it really is.

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01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: I really just get obsessed with different things for months

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01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: at a time and then move on and never think

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: about it again. I was in a huge Fiona Apple

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01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: phase for most of I would say then, I kind

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01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: of like I listened to her so much that I

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01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: no longer I think I needed a little break. I

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: was then in a real, really big hime place. I

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01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: was recently in a really big Lauren Hill. Yeah. Um,

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: Lauren Hills MTV Unplugged album is like, truely, I mean

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm not the first to say it, but it really

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: is like one of the best top to bottom live albums.

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Speaker 1: I think. Okay, here's something crazy. I've recently discovered. Someone

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: share this on Instagram. I recently discovered The Row, which

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01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: is Mary Kayton Nashley's fashion brand, puts out monthly playlists

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01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: on Spotify. I didn't know this, and they're genuinely so good,

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01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: really yeah, and so something because I'm really bad at

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Speaker 1: making my own playlists and having I just don't have

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01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: the patients for that. Famously have undiagnosed ADHD. And there's

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01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: something about it that it's kind of easy listening, but

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01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: high quality easy listening. And I also like, I don't

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01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: know more than half of the bands and musicians featured,

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01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: so I'm constantly discovering you stuff that's nice and I'm

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: kind of like, who I'm kind of on an eternal

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01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: quest to figure out who curates them, because yeah, I'm like,

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01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: maybe the girls do. That would be a sigh anyway,

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01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: So that's that's my answer. Well, I guess part of

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01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: this is, so that's what you are listening to. What

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01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: would you want to tell the world, what would be

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: most like? Yeah, I guess mm hmm. Honestly, I wish

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01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: I had a better knowledge of like interesting bands from

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: like the seventies through the nineties. I really only there

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: are a few that I've occasionally gotten into, but I really,

1302
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, the basics, even something as simple as like Pavement.

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know I should like payment, I've never

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01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: gotten enough. I was a huge Pavement head because they

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01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: are it was Matthew Um, they're from they went to

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,879
Speaker 1: u v A. So they're like local legends in Charlottesville. Yeah.

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01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: I the issue is if I were stopped on the

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: street and they asked me, it would definitely be something

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01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't agree with politically, Like I feel like the

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01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: music I'm listening to, it's I at this point in

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: my life, I'm mostly just trying to like see what's happening.

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01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 1: Like I'm just sort of like, what's this album, what's

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01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: this album? What's this album? So it's not something I

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01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: necessarily agree with, um, for example, what I'm currently like,

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: I actually am listening to the new Drake album a lot.

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01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: I knew, literally, Sam, and I knew that's what you

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01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: were going to say, but I didn't want to guess

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01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: before you said it, Like I was actually thinking that

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: right when I finished my answer, I was like oh,

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: this week it would have been the New Drake album

1321
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 1: because people were saying how good it was, and so

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01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: I was like sure, and I listened to it once

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: and I was like boring, and then I listened to

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01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: it again and I was like hmmmm, and now I

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01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: can't stop listening to it. And I am a don't

1326
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: get mad at me listeners. I am a recovering Drake Stan.

1327
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: I was like in twenty fifteen or whatever, I was

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01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: obsessed with the man, could not get enough of the stuff.

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: And so yeah, so I still every time you put

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: something out, I'm like, I'm gonna listen, And this one,

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01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm kind of liking, what would I want to tell

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: the world I'm listening to. I do like in those

1333
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: videos when they're like like I would love to tell

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01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: them like something gay. Like I like when it's like

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01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: someone who's like cool and it's like, what are you

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01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: listening to and they're like Charlie xc X, Like I

1337
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: love like sort of just being like I'm gay. Oh yeah, wait,

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01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: there's also okay, so I'd love to go Rosalia similar

1339
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: to that. So do you know Patrick Sandberg he made

1340
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: a playlist at the end of one. It's called Undead

1341
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: twenty one if you look it up on Spotify, and

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: it has all this good music from most of which

1343
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard of. I mean some of it is

1344
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: like Grimes, but a lot of it I hadn't heard of.

1345
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, like I am just out of

1346
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: the loop, Like I would love to know what is

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01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: going on in like queer adjacent pop, rock, disco, electronic,

1348
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: whatever music. So that would be great, But I kind

1349
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: of I do kind of okay get this. I'm kind

1350
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: of in a place where I'm like I should get

1351
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: into Bob Dylan, WHOA, Like that's I'm like, I you're

1352
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: wanting some roots, want to I'm wanting exactly. I'm wanting

1353
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: some roots. You want history. I'm wanting some roots, and

1354
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: I want like I want to watch, for instance, like

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: Quest Loves Documentary, like I want that air. I want

1356
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: some thing to ground me. Yeah, I've been listening to

1357
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: a lot of Joni Mitchell for that reason. Yes, all right,

1358
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: let's move on, great great que This is from read

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,799
Speaker 1: Done George and Sam. My question for you this Bananza

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: season is this who is the American royal family? And

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01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: you can't say the Kardashians and you can't see the

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01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: Kennedy's thank you ms Amy. Um, I guess the Apple House.

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01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean this answer, I mean, without saying the Hime sisters,

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01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: I think the Grandes. I mean you have Ariana and

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: you have Frankie. Yeah. I think if we're talking Brooklyn,

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01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: the gillen Halls, I would say the original judges of

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01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 1: American Idol, Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul and Randy Jackson are

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01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: chosen the royal chosen family. Yeah, definitely, I would say

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01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: queer eye guys. You know they're guy for sure, They're

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01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 1: America's like royal uncles. Maybe, like you know what, maybe

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01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: it's like the various Italian American actress Scorsese works with.

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01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: That is the American royal family. I like, that's like

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01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: Robert de Niro and Joe Pesci, the Smith's, the Smith's.

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: I well, this is so obvious, but you could say

1375
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 1: it's beyond san Jay z or like the royal couple.

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01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: Oh that is true, actually, And I think because that

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: you have Solange there, who is kind of like cheese

1378
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: more for the Ald Girls. For the Ald Girls. Um,

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01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, if Beyonce is well, I'm not even gonna

1380
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna venture comparison there, but um, you

1381
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: know there's something there. They have the cold, reserved like

1382
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: control over the media that you need to actually be

1383
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 1: a royal family. And then Kelly Rowland is kind of

1384
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: like the fun sister who shows up with a fun

1385
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 1: hat to the royal wedding. I love her, yes, honestly,

1386
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: just just in general justice for Kelly Rowland. Thank you.

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01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: Kelly Rowland is one of the most joyful performers, like

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01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: and really does do it all for the community. And

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: the fact that she's like not as big as Beyonce,

1390
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: I actually think it's like a credit to her, Like

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01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,440
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, yeah, I don't need to be gigantic.

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01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: I make songs that are fun, and then I'm just

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: sort of chilling. She also seems so happy. She seems

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01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: so happy and looks incredible gorgeous. Yeah, so I guess

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01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: Kelly Rowland. Kelly Rowland, Right, So this is from Andrea,

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01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: and she wrote a lot of very nice things, and

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01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 1: we're just gonna we're gonna hone in on the question

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01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: on the question because we don't want to. I actually

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01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: think she wrote a lot of personal stuff, which we're

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01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 1: so grateful that she felt comfortable enough to share with us,

1401
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 1: But we don't also don't need to read them for

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01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 1: everyone to We don't need to docs her. But I

1403
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: will will see she's a great storyteller. It's a great storyteller,

1404
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: beautiful emailer, and a well formatted email. So the question is,

1405
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: so basically, she lives in a small Canadian town and

1406
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: wants to be in maybe a bigger city and doesn't know.

1407
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: She says, I don't know if I should move to

1408
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: a big city and try to change my whole life

1409
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: or just embrace my basicness, straightness and continue to use

1410
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: this podcast as an outlet to get away from the

1411
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: live left love of it all. Does that make any sense? Yeah,

1412
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: it's and to me this brand of like you know,

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01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: we've both had dreams of like what if? Or I

1414
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: certainly like every time I do do any kind of

1415
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: traveling or even frankly look at an instagram of someone

1416
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: else traveling, I'm like, what if I moved to Berlin?

1417
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: What if I moved to Paris. It's just like this

1418
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: constant dream that your life could be basically like more

1419
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: interesting than than you yourself think it is. Do you

1420
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: feel that way and how do you deal with that?

1421
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't know why I don't.

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01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: I feel very like maybe it's cynical. Like I'm like,

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01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: I just know that, you know, I have to be

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01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: in either New York or l A. And I have

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01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: like and so i don't even fantasize because I'm just like,

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01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: it's it's only painful to fantasize about leaving. But I

1427
01:20:54,880 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: definitely think like a city is not better. I think

1428
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: it's just like, yes, maybe it's easier to meet like

1429
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: minded people with the same interests as you, but it's

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01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: often miserable. Um. And I've had many friends moved to

1431
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: the city that then like, don't because they're not here

1432
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: for a specific career, and they're just like, well, I'm

1433
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: young and I should be around other young people figuring

1434
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: it out. And then they're just like, oh, fuck this.

1435
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: And I know, like, if I can speak for like,

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 1: Misha does not like New York. Like he's really yeah,

1437
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: he fantasizes every time we leave the city. He's like,

1438
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: I wish we could leave, And I'm like, and but

1439
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: I am very cynical, and I'm just sort of like,

1440
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: but maybe cynical is not the word I just like,

1441
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm sort of like everywhere has its ups and downs,

1442
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: Like in the ups and downs of this city, I

1443
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: can I understand and it it provides me what I need.

1444
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: So but I don't know, what do you how do

1445
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: you feel about it? I almost I feel similarly in

1446
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: the sense that I almost feel a sense of rather

1447
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: than thinking of it cynically. I think I feel a

1448
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: sense of like safety and comfort in the fact that

1449
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of options, Like we have

1450
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,839
Speaker 1: to live in one of two cities, presumably to pursue

1451
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: the things we want to pursue, and that just makes

1452
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: any kind of um secret desire I have for anything

1453
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: else just easier, because I'm like, well, just shut that down,

1454
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: like it's you know, that's just not realistic. But having

1455
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: said that, I mean there is a part of me

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01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: where I'm like, well, what if I gave up on

1457
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 1: live performance. Let's say I wanted to just be a writer,

1458
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: and then I could live anywhere, and then you know,

1459
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: and especially I think this is like especially the case

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01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: for me because my family lives abroad and I feel

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: very far away from them. I feel like I don't

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01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: I only get to see my parents like once or

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01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: twice a year, even though we're very close, and I

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01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: they're my grandparents are getting old or whatever, and I'm like, wow,

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01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: it would be kind of cool to like for a

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Speaker 1: year full rely, like live a half expat lifestyle and

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01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: Athens or something. But the second part of this question

1468
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: is also kind of like, uh, you know, she's saying

1469
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: where where she is? She says she's thirty too, and

1470
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: a lot of her friends like are busy and married,

1471
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: and it's less easy than you might think to like

1472
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: have everyone over for an impromptu dinner and you know,

1473
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 1: like a natural wine and backyard hangs and whatever, which

1474
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: I think I have to say, um, is actually also

1475
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: the case if you were to live in Brooklyn or

1476
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: Manhattan or Los Angeles or Berlin, like I unfortunately think

1477
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: that when you are in your thirties at this point,

1478
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: especially for straight people, but honestly, within a few years

1479
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: it will be for gay people. To people, it just happens,

1480
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: and it happens. It happens, if not just as much

1481
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: a very comparable amount in New York. It's not like

1482
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: here everyone is like going to raves well into their

1483
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: third right, right, right. So my only advice is just

1484
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: like to like, don't um you know the grasses, Like,

1485
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: don't think of New York as this magical place where

1486
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: like all your thirty something friends wouldn't be busy with kids.

1487
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: It's just I like think of that more as like

1488
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: a universal thing. Yeah, and also maybe the answer is

1489
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: also sort of like I mean when you say you

1490
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: went to Europe to try living abroad for a second

1491
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: and it was somewhat disappointing. But maybe maybe there's like

1492
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: a middle ground, like maybe you don't need to be

1493
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: in the town you grew up in, but there's like

1494
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: a medium size city where you can feel a little

1495
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: bit of that urban nous and not completely reinvent and

1496
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: not to I don't know advice. I I don't know.

1497
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about giving advice, but

1498
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 1: that would be what I would do, I would feel.

1499
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: I do think if I would not live in New York,

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01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: I would move to somewhere like Philadelphia. Really. Yeah. For

1501
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: some reason, Philadelphia is to me the dream where it's

1502
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 1: like it's a fun, cool, nice city, but it's also

1503
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: very manageable as a place to live that is so funny,

1504
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: and so for some reason it's the North Star in

1505
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: my mind. Yeah, but also I don't know. I'm not

1506
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: going to move to Philadelphia. I always thought pre breaks that.

1507
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: I was always like I could live in London, Like

1508
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: that's like the perfect balance because it's like close to

1509
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 1: my family. But also you can still be like a

1510
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 1: English speaking comedian and writer. Sure, but wow, you in London,

1511
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Boris Johnson. You missed out on George

1512
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: because of your politics. Seriously, let's move on. Let's move

1513
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: on alright. This next one is from Evan, and Evan

1514
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,839
Speaker 1: similarly sent such a great long email with helpfully bolded

1515
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: parts where the questions are And this is a question. Okay,

1516
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: So the question is how do you get off Twitter

1517
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,959
Speaker 1: without missing out on culture, humor, news, marginalized perspectives, etcetera.

1518
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: And then there's of course a description. I mean, it's

1519
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the eternal question, which is that

1520
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: you do get things out of Twitter, especially if you

1521
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: follow the right people. And I think it can be

1522
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: really funny, it can be really informative, but it also

1523
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: makes you feel bad, and you admittedly always feel better

1524
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: when you're off it. So what is the answer, Sam,

1525
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: What is the answer? Um? I don't know. I mean

1526
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 1: like yesterday with all the Supreme Court news was like

1527
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: really tough to be on Twitter, but it also felt

1528
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 1: important to feel that toughness, to feel like anger and sadness.

1529
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: So I'm torn on it because there were parts of

1530
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 1: me that were like, okay, but stop, you're just hurting yourself,

1531
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: and then there are parts where it was like, no,

1532
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: you you need to feel anger, You need to feel

1533
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: a push to feel some action or to do some action.

1534
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: And even if it's not yea, if it's not action,

1535
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: it's just like a place that other people are feeling

1536
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: similarly to you, so you feel less alone, I guess,

1537
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's a tough I mean, the day

1538
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: to day. I do think it's like just about listening

1539
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: to yourself and knowing when to walk away. And yeah,

1540
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I personally would not quit at this stage in my life.

1541
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: But I'm also I don't know, I'm alsot like quit

1542
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: if you feel like it. I'm torn, George, what do

1543
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: you think? I mean? I mean, I almost feel like

1544
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say it, but I do.

1545
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: I'm not following my own advice, but I kind of

1546
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: do feel like the answer is getting off Twitter completely

1547
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: and like really investing in like better media consumption habits,

1548
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: like shop around and see what you what publications you

1549
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: enjoy reading, what newsletters you enjoy, like look at the

1550
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, if there are people whose perspectives you enjoy online,

1551
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: then see if they themselves have like either I can

1552
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: use letter or a podcast or they write for a

1553
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: magazine or whatever. And it's a little more difficult because

1554
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: you have to do the work of like creating something

1555
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 1: rather than just going on a website and having it

1556
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: curated for you. But like every single time I've done

1557
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: that in my life, I have felt better. Yeah, that

1558
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 1: makes sense. Maybe it's a cop out for me to

1559
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: say do that but then not do it myself. But

1560
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that is if I were

1561
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: recommending something, that is what I would recommend, Like I

1562
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:27,480
Speaker 1: kind of feel like it does more bad than good. Yeah,

1563
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: but where will I post my funny joke? I mean,

1564
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: it's true, where will I post my passing thoughts? And

1565
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: I do think what what he's saying to is like

1566
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: it gives you an access to like being kind of

1567
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: like the pulse of the culture kind of because it's

1568
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 1: so many people that like either our writers or artists

1569
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: or you know, public figures or whatever. I'm just thinking, like,

1570
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: what if the time you spent on Twitter you spent

1571
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: reading magazines which are also about the culture, right, I mean,

1572
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: you're right, and they're so cheap right now because they're

1573
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: all failing. So subscribe to like the New York or

1574
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: New York Magazine, book Forum, art Forum, and like, I

1575
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: don't know, some other one. I love that and see

1576
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: and like when you feel the need, when you feel

1577
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: like you would have gone on Twitter, read something, and

1578
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: maybe I'll do the same one day. I think that's

1579
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: great advice. Do as we say, not as we do.

1580
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: This is for Felicia, so it's just to me, but

1581
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: we're both going to answer it. Sorry, I hope that's okay. Sam.

1582
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: You've talked about how you tend to shut down around

1583
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,560
Speaker 1: your family when you otherwise have a wonderful, outgoing personality

1584
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: as a person and a performer. Well, that's very sweet.

1585
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: I tend to do the same, and I'm recently starting

1586
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: to actually entertain the idea of performing slash doing comedy

1587
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: after many years of viewing as a silly little dream

1588
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: for another lifetime. My question is, does your family watch slash,

1589
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: listen to your comedy and how do you reconcile them

1590
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: seeing that version of yourself with the one they usually experience.

1591
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: I actually, I do think this is a good earnestness question.

1592
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: My parents have limited experience viewing my comedy. I can

1593
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 1: count on one hand the shows they've been too, but

1594
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 1: they've been. It's been an interesting I have a positive

1595
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: relationship with my parents, um truly, and it's mostly just

1596
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 1: like my comedy is not in my mind for them,

1597
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: and it never has been, and that's okay, and it's

1598
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: not they don't even say that. I'm I'm more putting

1599
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: up walls than they are, but which is toxic in

1600
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: it's own way. But um, they came to like, so

1601
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: Bowen and I used to put on the show called

1602
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: Live on Broad Gay where it was all gay male

1603
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: comedians performing an episode of Sex and the City as

1604
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: if it was a serious piece of theater. And they

1605
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: came to that and they were like what is this?

1606
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 1: Which I felt like it was a good step because

1607
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: I was kind of a they hadn't seen me being

1608
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: like gay before. Like I was like, Oh, they're coming

1609
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: to New York and they're like seeing me hang out

1610
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: with gay people and they're going to be in sort

1611
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: of a gay space. So that was exciting, but they

1612
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: were confused, and not just because it was like what

1613
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 1: is this? Um Then they saw a show I did,

1614
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: like a solo show called Club Comic where it was

1615
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: like all these club comedic club tracks and stand up

1616
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: and I was sure they would hate it because they

1617
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: I was like, they're just not gonna get it. It's

1618
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: like nasty, like some of the songs are like about

1619
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: literally had a song about my asshole where it was

1620
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: like called boy Bought and it was like everything about

1621
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: me is perfect, but just don't go near my ass um.

1622
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: And but they were like after this where they were

1623
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: like that was so funny. They were like I've never

1624
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: seen you be so funny and like yourself and blah

1625
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: blah blah, and I was really it was like kind

1626
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: of I was glad they saw it because I was

1627
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: kind of touched that they understood it and liked it.

1628
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: And even like my uncle came to that show, who's

1629
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: like Southern lives on a farm. Just like truly, I

1630
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: was like, this is not going to click, you know.

1631
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: I had a song called like my sex is like

1632
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 1: a sports game, and like like I'm like some great

1633
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: song wearing like a jock strap over my shorts and

1634
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: like shirt lists and like moaning, and he was like

1635
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 1: that was so funny, and I was like, wow, this

1636
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: is really something. UM, So it was kind of it

1637
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: was nice, but it's always confusing. Sometimes my mom listens

1638
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: to the podcast and I have actually been like, Mom,

1639
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 1: could you please not because I don't like to know,

1640
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be censoring myself and thinking

1641
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 1: of them as I am talking, just because there are

1642
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: some cultural differences sometimes yeah, quite frankly, team uh, George,

1643
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: what's your relationship with comedy and your parents? Um? The

1644
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: one time they saw me perform, I think was a

1645
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: big shock to them, and it was because it was

1646
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: I think I maybe talked about a different since Bananza,

1647
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 1: but it was like during my grad school graduation, and

1648
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 1: so in my mind, I thought, oh, this is a

1649
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: safe environment to introduce them to this part of my

1650
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: life because they're proud of me for doing something that

1651
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: is within their comfort zone, like they're here for a

1652
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: literal academic graduation, so now I can be like, okay,

1653
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: well and also I do this now, like what do

1654
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: you think? And somehow I thought that it would be

1655
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: like so effortless, and they were I could just tell

1656
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: they were like kind of surprised, but like there was

1657
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: just like one sexually explicit joke that I thought they

1658
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind, and it wasn't. Like it's not that they're

1659
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: prudish or like afraid of sex. They just like, we're

1660
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: so not expecting it, Like they thought the comedy would

1661
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: just be like, you know, like dogs are like this

1662
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: and cats are like this. But I will say since

1663
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: that incident, they are so in terms of just like

1664
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: theoretically me doing comedy, they're so supportive. Like they always

1665
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: asked me if I have shows, and they like have

1666
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: listened to the podcast and they tell their friends about

1667
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: it and and they're like they think it's so amusing,

1668
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: and they're like every time I do anything that's even

1669
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: you know, like when I had a set on Comedy Central,

1670
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 1: they were like so excited about it and whatever. So

1671
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: I think they like and actually think they did like

1672
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: that set more. I think maybe because it didn't have

1673
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: any sex, but but yeah, I think I think they

1674
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: are very supportive of it as a path at this

1675
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: point after a few years of working through it, and

1676
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: I think that can exist separately from them like understanding

1677
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: the actual content. Yeah, yeah, which is honestly a good

1678
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: place to be. I think, yeah, respectful and yeah at

1679
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: a distance. Okay. This is from Aria about eight seven. Oh.

1680
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: This is inspired by a tweet, but it says, what's

1681
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: one phone notification that you sit around waiting for where

1682
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 1: every time your phone vibrates you hope it's that. This

1683
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: I love because I've always been I used to joke

1684
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: with when I worked at the Y with a bunch

1685
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 1: of other comedians. We'd always joke about that big email

1686
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 1: and be like that, I know the big emails coming

1687
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: through today, which was obviously no big emails come as

1688
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: a surprise, but there's such a fair to see in

1689
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: like comedy, I feel of someone just picking you out,

1690
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: which never happens. It's absolutely a fantasy, but it really

1691
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: is just like you want that email that's like, hey,

1692
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 1: weirdly they need you and you're gonna be like this,

1693
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 1: Like you're actually gonna be like a side character in

1694
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: a movie today. Um, and it's crazy. It's like it's

1695
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: like a small part but it's really funny and you're

1696
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: gonna make a huge impact. And it's like this is

1697
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 1: so stupid. I hate that the optimism I feel. I

1698
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: truly check my emails sometimes when I'm bored to just

1699
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: like hope it's something big. Like it's literally a childhood

1700
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: fantasy of being like, I just want that one email.

1701
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: It's going to take me away from here. No, Basically,

1702
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 1: every time I get any kind of email from someone

1703
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: in the industry, I think it's gonna I'm like, is

1704
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: it an offer, and it's like no, we're actually just um,

1705
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 1: you didn't sign the W two. So crazy because the

1706
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 1: actual process is so even when you get something exciting,

1707
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: it's like then months of discussing and like, by the

1708
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 1: time it actually happens, the joy has been almost entirely

1709
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: sucked out of it. Yeah, but it's such a such

1710
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: a fantasy to be like, oh, everything is perfect and

1711
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 1: it's happening tomorrow. I will say so a lot of

1712
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: big celebrities have gone to Alison Liby's show, and often

1713
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: they will send notes and so that when she told

1714
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: me that, that awakened within me a new desire, which

1715
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: is for like what if you like, did a show

1716
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: that was in a big enoughenion that you couldn't see

1717
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: everyone there and then the next yey, You've got an

1718
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: email from Sarah Jessica Parker and she was like, Sam,

1719
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: I got your email from you know, the head of

1720
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: the venue. I just wanted to say how incredible I

1721
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: thought your performance was. I mean the way that that

1722
01:36:56,240 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: will make me cry. Sara Jessica Parker, please reach out.

1723
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: Just if Sarah Parker emailed us today and just said like,

1724
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: keep up the good work. You guys are really sweet,

1725
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,759
Speaker 1: I would be like I would be moved. And Sarah Jessica,

1726
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: we will give you free tickets to our Bellhouse show

1727
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay, and Matthew can come to Yeah,

1728
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: both of you will get free tickets. Okay, this is

1729
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: from huge friend of the pod McElroy, who I recently

1730
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 1: had drinks within, who in fact we met because they

1731
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: were a listener, and then ended up writing that Vulture

1732
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: piece about us. The question is what have you most

1733
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 1: learned from each other creatively and or personally? Ready for earnestness,

1734
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 1: ready for nos Okay, what have I learned from George?

1735
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: I would say I think I have learned a little

1736
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: bit more to have like a backbone. I actually feel

1737
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 1: like part of my talent is like versatility and like

1738
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: kind of thinking I can do it all. But I've

1739
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: also learned like, oh, you don't have to constantly be trying.

1740
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: You can just like know who you are and like

1741
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,759
Speaker 1: stick like do it well and like believe in it.

1742
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: And I feel like I really admire that about you,

1743
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,759
Speaker 1: and I feel like in this podcast, even you being

1744
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: the other half is part of what has given it

1745
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: such a strong voice because you are like, no, I

1746
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: believe in it this way, and I'm like, yeah, that's great.

1747
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: I do think if I were doing it solo or

1748
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: with someone else, it would be more like sometimes it's this,

1749
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,640
Speaker 1: sometimes it's this, sometimes this, or like, ah, is this

1750
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: coming off too? Is this coming off too? And you're

1751
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 1: very like what we're doing is right, and it's I

1752
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: think a very It's very helpful and I think will

1753
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: truly be like helpful in my future and in our future.

1754
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 1: That's very wow. Honestly, I'm tearing up. Wait, this is

1755
01:38:55,800 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 1: so weird, sam Um Okay, Yeah. I I think that

1756
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 1: what I most admire about you creatively is the sense

1757
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 1: of joy that you have and everything you do. And

1758
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 1: I actually think it's like a different instinct that than

1759
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: I have. I actually think like my instinct is defined

1760
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 1: comedy in um almost like whether it's not maybe conflict

1761
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,440
Speaker 1: or at tension or like to look for something uncomfortable

1762
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 1: and then take it to the very edge and then

1763
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: think of a punch line or something. And I think,

1764
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: in some ways your comedy is so much more inclusive

1765
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: and welcoming and expansive because you are it. It just

1766
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 1: stems from like a kind of optimism that I sometimes lack.

1767
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 1: I think that it has in fact helped me maintain

1768
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 1: my sanity in like a very real way, because um

1769
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: it is. It's a very important counterway to my natural

1770
01:39:56,160 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 1: kind of anxious instincts. Personally, I mean this is not

1771
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: a very uh earnest or part felt thing. But actually,

1772
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 1: something I've learned from you is to like really enjoy

1773
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 1: um gay spaces like I think your your commitment to

1774
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 1: gay bars and gay parties and and like gay events

1775
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: is what made made all of that click for me

1776
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: to see how much joy it brings you, And now

1777
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: I like seek it out on my own even when

1778
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm not hanging out with you. That's so sweet. I

1779
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, I And this one's also less I

1780
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: feel like less emotional maybe, but similarly I feel like

1781
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,799
Speaker 1: you have like I feel like I was very pretentious

1782
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: in college, and then I kind of went on like

1783
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: an anti pretension train, and then I feel like I'm

1784
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: sort of finding the middle ground. And I think you've

1785
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 1: shown me like a little bit more of the value

1786
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: in like seeking that like a higher uh, like a

1787
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 1: higher brow out like I I do think it's like

1788
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 1: been helpful to be like right, there is value in this,

1789
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,719
Speaker 1: and the world doesn't support this, and it is almost

1790
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: our job to support this stuff because we do want

1791
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: this stuff to exist and the other stuff will always exist.

1792
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 1: But like it's this stuff is very valuable and we

1793
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 1: should cherish it. And by this stuff we mean our podcasts,

1794
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: and by this stuff we mean mostly um niche gay

1795
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 1: comedy podcast. Damn, I mean that was that got me?

1796
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe I was. That was weird. No, it's good. Yeah,

1797
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, this is from Ronnie. I am interested

1798
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: in hearing you to unpack your Stradio Lab persona. Since

1799
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast. Do you think they have

1800
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 1: changed my take? Okay, telling us what to think. There

1801
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: are ways in which you two have melded more as

1802
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: one persona, George becoming less serious Sam a bit more

1803
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 1: George sharing more of his sexual side, Sam a bit

1804
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: less Sam setting up statement one more, George setting up

1805
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: shoutouts more. I see the relationship evolution making this show stronger.

1806
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 1: So that's that's the take. Um. Do we think we

1807
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 1: have changed? I mean I would like to think we've

1808
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,679
Speaker 1: both grown but also become more like one another, like

1809
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: I have found myself um, and I think you expressed

1810
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 1: something similar to me too. I find myself when I'm

1811
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 1: watching a movie or listening to a song or reading

1812
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: a book, sometimes thinking what would Sam think of this?

1813
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: Like like reading or listening to it through your eyes

1814
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: and ears? Yeah, which is very funny. It's almost I

1815
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: think it's almost similar to what I've heard it's like

1816
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: to be twins. I mean, we're both gate cancers were twins. Yeah, yeah,

1817
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean talk about when we watch Star Wars and

1818
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 1: I was just I could not not see it through

1819
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 1: your arms, and I was like, oh, no, this is

1820
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 1: gonna be horrible. But yeah, I think it's natural that

1821
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: we've we can also yeah, because we're able to like

1822
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 1: almost anticipate how the other will react a bit more now,

1823
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 1: I feel we also try to swim hich it up

1824
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: and react differently to like keep each other fresh, and yeah,

1825
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,719
Speaker 1: the stuff like the more sexual less sexual. I feel

1826
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 1: like it's also just like, hey, sometimes sometimes the bit

1827
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: gets old. I I'm very wary of being like a

1828
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 1: hack and sometimes to uh a negative degree where I'll

1829
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: like cut things off before they should. But sometimes I

1830
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very like I did that move on. Also,

1831
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: there are just things we talked about a lot during

1832
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 1: the beginning and then it's like there's not more to

1833
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 1: say about that's pretty much back in the list of

1834
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: those first episodes. Yeah, one thing that I felt even

1835
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 1: though at the time I thought it was very funny,

1836
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 1: and I still do think it's funny, but like the

1837
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: recurring bit that were like mad at each other or

1838
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 1: in a fight, I think maybe it's occasionally still funny,

1839
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: but I feel like we did what we could with that,

1840
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: Like like I'm kind of like not interested in that

1841
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: being like such a big part of it in the

1842
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,719
Speaker 1: same way that it was like during the first season

1843
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 1: for example. Yeah, and kind of like trying to find

1844
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:07,879
Speaker 1: jokes from fake conflict, Like I think it's good in moderation,

1845
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: Like I think it's so funny we do it with Max,

1846
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 1: of course, but it does make you realize that yes,

1847
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 1: and in fact leads to more comedic results than than

1848
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: disagree classic improp training. We also just have settled into

1849
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: the format, like with me complaining about shoutouts, for instance,

1850
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 1: in the beginning, it's like, well, what are you want

1851
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 1: to complain about it? Forever? Stuck it up? Yeah, either

1852
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 1: accepted or change it. Yeah. I mean I think that's

1853
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 1: also why, like I love that we have guests, I

1854
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: just to like switch our our perspectives up and feel

1855
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: like a sense of surprise because this podcast is about

1856
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 1: or a lot of it was like us getting to

1857
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: each other at the beginning, and like being surprised by

1858
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: each other's opinions and feelings towards things. I do think

1859
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: the not to say that I don't still learn new

1860
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:00,600
Speaker 1: things about you every day, but I do think the

1861
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:04,640
Speaker 1: eras that were, it was like us learning to be

1862
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 1: with each other, and then as soon as that click,

1863
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,839
Speaker 1: then it was us against the world. There. I think,

1864
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 1: Bonnie and Clyde, that has been the most fulfilling thing

1865
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: about it for me, because I don't think I've ever

1866
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 1: had a I've never in fact had anything even close

1867
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: to working relationship this deep. Yeah, I feel the same

1868
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: way all right, next question. Okay, this is from Lucy,

1869
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 1: who says, um in honor of Beyonce announcing Renaissance Part one,

1870
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: what are your favorite Beyonce songs? This is a really

1871
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: good question. This is I actually was scared when you

1872
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 1: sent this question because I was like, oh, like, favorites

1873
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 1: always kind of stressed me out because it's too hard,

1874
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 1: and like for someone like Beyonce, where it's like such

1875
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:55,480
Speaker 1: a long varied career, it's very difficult to name a favorite.

1876
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 1: And having said that, mine would be her cover of

1877
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Sex on Fire people. Okay, here's what I'll say. A

1878
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: lot of I think the cool music fan thing is

1879
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 1: to think for is her best album? Well, and that's

1880
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: literally I was just about to say, and I kind

1881
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: of agree with it. Yeah, I think that is. I mean,

1882
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: for that album like solidified like separated her from the

1883
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 1: pack where she was kind of like, oh, I'm not

1884
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: playing your little pop star games anymore, totally totally, and

1885
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 1: that like set up for it to be gigantic when

1886
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: she dropped self titled at the same time, I Am

1887
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 1: Sasha Fears is all bobs. You're right like it Actually,

1888
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, look at the Sasha Fear side

1889
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 1: if I Am Sasha Fears single Ladies Radio Radio is

1890
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 1: a great song. Diva another great song. Okay. Sweet Dreams

1891
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: is an all time Beyonce song. No for beautiful Nightmares,

1892
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah night okay, yeah yeah, it's a videophone all right,

1893
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 1: you know. And and and here's what I'll say. I

1894
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: love a tour Beyonce, and I appreciate self title, I

1895
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: appreciate Lemonade. Unfortunately, neither Self Titled nor Lemonade have this

1896
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Speaker 1: kind of track list that is the Disc two side

1897
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: of I Am Sasha Faarians. They just don't. By design.

1898
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: It's not It's not like sustainable bailing at something. It's

1899
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 1: not sustainable. I would say I Am Sasha like in

1900
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 1: terms of what you're saying, like setting herself apart. I

1901
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: do think Ford did that in some ways, But in

1902
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: some ways I Am Susha Fiars was so jam packed

1903
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 1: that I do think maybe that was the big putting

1904
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 1: her foot down. I think that put her foot down

1905
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: is like I am the one of the biggest pop stars.

1906
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: But four was like the intro to her autour era.

1907
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:50,560
Speaker 1: I see you're right, But favorite song that is impossible.

1908
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 1: I just mean, like literally, I do love like a

1909
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: silly one. I think is ring the alarm come on?

1910
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: Really a love like a good one. I love reing

1911
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 1: the alarm any time an alarm is going off. You

1912
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 1: know my asses singing real the alarm over it. I

1913
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: love ring the alarm. I love when she kind of yells.

1914
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: I love starting a song. This is irreplaceable starting a

1915
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: song with to the left, to the left, everything you

1916
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 1: own in a box, to the left. I love self titled, honestly,

1917
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: I kind of like it more than Lemonade. I agree.

1918
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 1: I really loved the Lemonade Visual album, but I don't

1919
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: listen to the album very often, and don't there are

1920
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 1: songs that I love on that album, but it's I'm

1921
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 1: more often listen to self titled all the way through.

1922
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 1: In terms of self titled, I love XO. This is

1923
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: really hard. I mean, listen Partition, Partition and Drunken whatever.

1924
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: I feel like there are no like Niche Beyonce songs.

1925
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 1: I will say. I think drunken Love I have the

1926
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: most emotional yeah connection to I feel like it came

1927
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: out at like such a pivotal time, like that was

1928
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: like I'm in New York, I'm twenty five, and like

1929
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: that was like truly me and Bowen going to like

1930
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: Hell's Kitchen and being like play jocking love, playing love,

1931
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: and it was like such a stupid time, I really

1932
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 1: dream of it. Yeah. Also I love um, what's it called?

1933
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 1: Catch up on it? Yeah, I'm gonna to work up

1934
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 1: on it. That's it. But looking lag which is see

1935
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: Also the big Destiny's Child songs hold up like immensely. Yes,

1936
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: I actually was recently listening to the Writings on the

1937
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 1: Wall and it is jam packed. Also it has such

1938
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 1: fun nonsensical lyrics like I appreciate that she's now trying

1939
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: to be more serious and of course she's forty years old,

1940
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: like it makes sense, but the nonsensical my Automobiles genius

1941
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: Like it is iconic, playful fun, especially because they're seventeen

1942
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: singing can You pay My Bill? Also Independent Women, great

1943
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: song formative talk about not coming out of the closet,

1944
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 1: but coming out of the closet, like I asked for

1945
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:22,799
Speaker 1: that soundtrack for my birthday when I was whatever age twelve,

1946
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 1: like girl you gay? Like I mean I Also I

1947
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: love them silly Beyonce even like like one plus one

1948
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 1: for instance, I don't I don't know much about it,

1949
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know, well plus one equal to and

1950
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 1: then they're like insanely dramatic video for it so funny. Also,

1951
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: I love um, I mean I love Countdown so good,

1952
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 1: and I love Love on Top. I love Love on Top.

1953
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 1: Can we say, like this is maybe too much for

1954
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 1: this particular bonanza, But I am going to ask because

1955
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever gonna narrow it down. What

1956
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 1: do you think of the new song? Uh? I think

1957
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, I don't think it's great, But that

1958
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I don't enjoy listening to it constantly. Does

1959
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah, I mean listen. It makes me.

1960
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 1: It makes me like bored when people think too much

1961
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 1: about Beyonce and like and what she means for the

1962
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 1: for for music and whatever. I'm kind of like, let her,

1963
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, Like, I'm excited for the album. I'll listen

1964
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:32,839
Speaker 1: to it, and uh, she's one of the best performers

1965
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,560
Speaker 1: we've ever produced in this flop of a nation. And

1966
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,600
Speaker 1: that's all I do think overall. I would like for

1967
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 1: things to sound less like there are products of market research. Yeah,

1968
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I'm excited for the album still, and I'm

1969
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 1: curious as to how it is done. I completely agree,

1970
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for her to just like get back

1971
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 1: into like, you know, when she's like in promo mode.

1972
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: Maybe she'll like perform at an award show. Maybe she'll

1973
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, release some fun music video. I also, I

1974
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: always love when a pop star that has done like

1975
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 1: a few serious things in a row decides this is

1976
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: her fun era. It's very like Madonna Confessions on a

1977
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 1: dance floor. It's uh, it's it's always nice. Yeah. It

1978
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 1: has some real potential for for nationwide joy. Yeah, and

1979
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 1: I love when Beyonce gets in touch with her comedic side.

1980
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 1: Do you think she's gonna ground herself a little more?

1981
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: Do you think she'll host SNL? I think she might

1982
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: host SNL? Wow, don't you think she could? I think

1983
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 1: she could. I mean I certainly think she will like

1984
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: be planning it months in advance and have a whole team. Yeah,

1985
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, but that's you know, if Kim Kardashian did that,

1986
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 1: why can't Beyonce? And she should? I mean that would

1987
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 1: be so funny. I mean, just like interesting. People think

1988
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 1: she doesn't have a sense of humor, but I think

1989
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 1: she does. Every time she tried to do something comedic.

1990
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 1: She's actually pulled it off gold Member exactly. Need I

1991
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: say more? You know what's craziest seeing old performance. Of

1992
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 1: course she's always been great, but old performances before she

1993
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 1: had her full full confidence, like when she was very young.

1994
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 1: I recently watched this performance of her doing New York,

1995
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: New York for this ceremony honoring Robert de Niro, and

1996
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: it's like her in a little cap doing New York,

1997
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 1: New York in a kind of like Broadway Musical Way,

1998
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 1: and you can tell she's nervous. She's like, oh my god,

1999
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 1: it's Robert de Niro. Well, I love that funny to witness. Yeah,

2000
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 1: I actually think of all of the songs that she

2001
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 1: has been a part of. I'm gonna be basic. I'm

2002
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna I am gonna answer the question now, is it

2003
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 1: crazy and love? No, it's Say my Name? Damn. I

2004
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 1: actually think Say my Name is such a fucking hit

2005
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: and like such a classic. Yeah, it's one that always

2006
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 1: always I mean crazy a lot of them, but say

2007
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 1: my Name is, like it really does it for me? Yeah,

2008
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: if we're allowed to incorporate child and this is the

2009
01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 1: most basic possible answer, But there's something about Hay oh,

2010
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 1: where you're like and where you're truly like and there

2011
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 1: it is. There's something about Halo. I think you're completely correct.

2012
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: It's kind of in a very different way, but in

2013
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 1: the same with it, we found love will never get old,

2014
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 1: Halo will never I'll never be like not now. Yeah, wow,

2015
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 1: Halo is it? It's a damn icon. Well check out

2016
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 1: this indie artist Beyonce. She's really up and coming, really

2017
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:30,839
Speaker 1: doing and I think you if you love this indie podcast,

2018
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna love the indie artist Beyonce. Well is that

2019
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: the end? I think that's the end? Wow? Well, do

2020
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 1: we have any final How do we how do we

2021
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: wrap up? You know? I think uh, I think I'm

2022
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm excited for our summer break in some sense, but

2023
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm also gonna miss doing this. I know me too.

2024
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a nice little refresh, I know, my, my,

2025
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 1: I just my biggest fear is that I'm running out

2026
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: things to say. So I think I'll this is a

2027
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 1: This is gonna be my consumption era over the summer,

2028
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: so I can come back and have all these opinions. Yeah,

2029
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna live full lives in like two months. Yeah, barely,

2030
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have all these new fresh opinions. Um, well,

2031
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it bears repeating. I would not want

2032
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: to do this with anybody else. Yeah, I think it

2033
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 1: does bear repeating. I love being your comedy partner in

2034
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 1: this endeavor. Before we found one another, it's like you

2035
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 1: would watch other people that work together and be like,

2036
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: how do people do it? Like how do you find

2037
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 1: someone who's like complimentary but similar enough and you know,

2038
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 1: are able to uh kind of work towards the same

2039
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 1: goal but from slightly different perspectives and you know, you

2040
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 1: think it might not happen, and then it does. Yeah,

2041
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 1: And honestly is We're very lucky. We're very lucky. I

2042
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 1: mean we didn't it's we didn't market test it did

2043
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 1: We just tried at all. In fact, like anytime there's

2044
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: even like a slight disagreement or something, it just like

2045
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 1: the rarity of it then reminds me even more how

2046
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 1: crazy it is that overall there's barely any conflict. Yeah. Agree,

2047
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: it is pretty smooth, pretty smooth ride, room room, and honey,

2048
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 1: we're only going up from here. Check us out on

2049
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: the flop medium that is television of I don't know. Um, Yes,

2050
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: our show is premiering tomorrow on HBO Normal on HBO Peacock.

2051
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: We did it. Yeah, I guess like happy summer and

2052
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: happy forgetful girl summer. Yeah, please forget all your appointments,

2053
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 1: try to forget have have bad cell service and miss

2054
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: the meeting, miss your train. Do a sliding doors moment. Yeah,

2055
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 1: I would say, try to orchestrate sliding doors moments, like

2056
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 1: try to get two trains right when the doors are

2057
01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 1: closing and see what that feels like. Yeah. Yeah, market

2058
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: test a sliding doors moment for yourself. I recently tried

2059
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: to rewatch the actual film Sliding Doors. It's really bad.

2060
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 1: It's too bad, isn't that sad? It's like we'll always

2061
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 1: have a concept. Yeah, well that's life, all right. See

2062
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 1: you guys at the Lime Show. Hopefully, see you guys

2063
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: at the Bellhouse and bye bye