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Speaker 1: Brandon Sprote officially called up by the New York Mets.

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Speaker 1: We've been waiting for this forever. It feels like you've

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Speaker 1: been hearing about me and James preaching the name of

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Speaker 1: Brandon spro for years now, and the prophecy has finally

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Speaker 1: been fulfilled. He's gonna be at the major league level,

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Speaker 1: making his debut on Sunday in Cincinnati against Hunter Green.

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Speaker 1: Big game for the Mets, gift, big game for Brandon

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Speaker 1: spro Let's go ahead and talk about it. But of course,

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Speaker 1: how excited are you for Brandon Sprout's debut.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about Brandon Sprote.

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Speaker 3: I think that he faded a little bit behind the

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Speaker 3: other pitching prospects. Of course, Christian Scott last year, and

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Speaker 3: then the way that Nolan McLay and Joan tong have

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Speaker 3: been are in the major leagues. And the way that

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Speaker 3: Brandis bro specially began his season at Triple A, I

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Speaker 3: think he really receded to the back. He got dropped

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Speaker 3: off a lot of top one hundred lists. That was

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Speaker 3: our rallying cry last year. Brandis Broke's the future top

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Speaker 3: one hundred prospects and he peaked in the twenties and

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Speaker 3: thirties on some list when he really got to Triple

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Speaker 3: A last year. But you've seen a picture who's already

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Speaker 3: dealt with lots of adversity. You see a guy with

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Speaker 3: a huge collegiate track record. He's someone who has gotten

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Speaker 3: over the hump and made some critical adjustments that I

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Speaker 3: think are really going to help them in the major

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Speaker 3: league level. And it's fun that we're going to have

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Speaker 3: all three of these guys in the major leagues together.

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Speaker 3: Like these guys have spent a lot of time together.

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Speaker 3: They've spent a lot like they spent they've.

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Speaker 2: Talked a lot.

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Speaker 3: Weirdly see those relationships forming with McClain and Tongue at

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Speaker 3: the major league level, like adding sprote like we have

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Speaker 3: a little a little click, We got a little cohort now.

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Speaker 2: Of young pitchers that we haven't had in a very

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Speaker 2: long time.

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Speaker 1: The Mets organization specifically has done this so many times.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many other organizations have been able

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Speaker 1: to do this where you're just fifteen years Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: just gonna call up three great young pictures all around

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Speaker 1: the same time and hopefully they will lead you to

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Speaker 1: Tom was posting about it on Instagram today, Noel McLain

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Speaker 1: was posting on Instagram. It is cool to see that

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Speaker 1: these guys are not only good, but they're also riding

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Speaker 2: That very hard. It's like that.

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Speaker 3: It's also pitching is such a collaborative thing, so like

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Speaker 3: They talk about it like it's cool that we have this,

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Speaker 3: like especially having Sean and I at the top being

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Speaker 3: it's a very happy moment for all these guys to

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Speaker 2: That's helpful as well. To deal with this big change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, extremely helpful and I'm super excited. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about brand Sprote because during the

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Speaker 1: season at Triple A and even last year when he

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Speaker 1: eventually did get to Triple A, there have been some struggles,

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Speaker 1: without doubt, like the single A, Double A. Those were

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Speaker 1: McLain and Tongue, Triple A hurt him a little bit

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Speaker 1: more slow to down quite a bit. One of the

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Speaker 1: big reasons, James, and You've been mentioned it for a while,

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Speaker 1: difficulty getting left handed hitters out. But he has that

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Speaker 3: In a funny way, the thing that made me specifically

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Speaker 3: I find the collegiate innings for me right now, because

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Speaker 3: I want to say it was like four hundred collegiate innings,

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Speaker 1: There was he's only thrown fourteen more innings as a

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Speaker 3: So that's phrase, that's so many in these pitch especially

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Speaker 3: multiple seasons that Brandon Sprot has already pitched in terms

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Speaker 3: But the thing that made Sprot so exciting was that

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Speaker 3: not ready for any of those things right now. You

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Speaker 3: reason why I think that got stopped because the Mets

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Speaker 3: helped Brandon sprote work on a sweeper. That sweeper quickly

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Speaker 3: Nolan McClain was doing that frisbee.

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Speaker 2: It seems like Brand's broke on some of that frisbee

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Speaker 3: But while he picked up that new pitch, when you

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Speaker 3: So having that, it kind of messed up how this

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Speaker 2: The beginning of the year Triple A.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he definitely struggled a bit, but being able

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Speaker 1: it was. It was arguably his best pitch when he

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Speaker 1: was coming up so for Florida. Yeah, especially at Florida,

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Speaker 1: it was a really good pitch. But he's also he's

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Speaker 1: makes Brandon Sprot feel like he can be not just

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Speaker 1: a good starting pitcher, but a very mid rotation top

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Speaker 3: Guy, Just to give you guys a sense of how

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Speaker 3: big of change, how big of a change it was

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Speaker 3: mid season for Sprot this year at Triple A, his

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Speaker 3: first fifteen starts, the era was six and the strike

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Speaker 3: hot he was fifteen percent when eleven percent walker. It

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Speaker 3: was untenable, and again a lot of it was because

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Speaker 3: he would be facing some lefty heavy lineup, because once

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Speaker 3: you do get to Triple A, teams will have a

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Speaker 3: lot more veterans out there, so they probably are doing

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Speaker 3: a little bit more platuning, especially than the lower minor levels.

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Speaker 2: But he got crushed.

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Speaker 3: He could not get left these out sixty ra again,

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Speaker 3: fifty percent strike out rate since June twenty eighth, that's

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Speaker 3: ten starts to two point four to forty You are right,

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Speaker 1: That's really good. Those are all numbers I like to hear.

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely night and day.

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Speaker 3: And then thinking about just the way he's changed since then,

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Speaker 3: he's throwing his curve ball and change up significantly more

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Speaker 3: more than doubling each of their usages against left handed batters,

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Speaker 3: replacing the sinkers and sweepers, which are not good pitches

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Speaker 3: to throw his opposite handed batteris And at the same time,

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Speaker 3: there is always a concept that's weird for me to

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Speaker 3: ever think about horizontal release point because vertical release point

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Speaker 3: makes tons of sense to me in my brain. Yes,

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Speaker 3: horizontal it makes much less because just being on that

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Speaker 1: So for horizontal release point, is it is it based

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Speaker 3: But it's almost to Z because then you get the

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I can that's why the podcast are not

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Speaker 3: of that sidewind and cross arm action and it seems

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Speaker 3: that changeup and curveball, and once that happened again, he

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Speaker 3: Upper Miners. He's been pitching that way for a few

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Speaker 3: months now. He still has the sinker and the sweeper

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Speaker 2: For caution to like throwing caution was like, let's relax

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Speaker 2: Throw it to the wind.

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Speaker 1: The caution's gone. Everybody finds out. That's why it was like,

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Speaker 3: It's a good one there. But I'm sure they were

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Speaker 3: telling you that Brandons broke. It's like a prima downery.

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Speaker 2: The start he will be starving.

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Speaker 3: And also for the Cincinnati comment, fifty five percent all

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Speaker 2: Repertoire, okay, that should help a lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think lefty batter wise, it's Ellie and

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Speaker 2: Lucks.

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Speaker 1: Frayley is a lefty, I believe as well.

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Speaker 2: I believe they cut Frailey by a month ago.

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Speaker 3: They cut Jake Fraley, he's on the braves. Yes, what Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Wow, I can't believe they cut Freely. Freely is a

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Speaker 3: Again, I think there's always something that's like if we

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Speaker 3: thought of something, David Stearns and the Mets I.

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Speaker 2: Thought of it a week before us, I hope. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know there's exactly there.

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Speaker 1: If me or James mentioned something, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it happens. So I'm really excited for Brandon Sprot's start.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned it's cool that we're gonna see Pong sprote

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that gonna be three of the biggest

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Speaker 3: I got the lead quote from a cousin, Matt, former

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Speaker 3: out Matt, Remember the Matt Minnett never forget, he goes.

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Speaker 3: I love the knock from people that the rookie pitchers

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Speaker 3: don't know. I'd rather have three pitches that might not

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's saying it perfectly. This staff is

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Speaker 1: been great. Code I Sanga has not been great. Codas

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Speaker 1: come Sunday. So that's something else to talk about here.

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Speaker 1: It feels even weirder what's going on with CODEI right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, an ominous tweet from Martino as this brandis brot

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Speaker 3: anybody had also shout out Chad Ford, who had this

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Speaker 3: news first. Can't believe that was a was a leak

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Speaker 3: that got there, but he said that in keeping with

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Speaker 2: It wasn't nine to forty six am.

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Speaker 3: We didn't get this news until twelve one o'clock officially

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Speaker 3: Mets Off Day shows. Follow up to will Sam's report,

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Speaker 1: Do you think Code I goes to the miners? Do

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Speaker 3: Ken Roosevelt had an interesting comment about this Code that

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Speaker 3: You need to fill these things before going up, because

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think I think the money is still guaranteed. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. I think maybe maybe that thing is

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Speaker 1: Maybe I think or or get right because I hearing

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Speaker 3: susqu Alvert's got.

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Speaker 2: To go to the minor league and just bludgeon players

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Speaker 1: Michael CONFORDO, remember he got sent down. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: it's worked for specifically Mets players in the past. Some

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Speaker 2: Jerry Kelnick it.

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Speaker 1: Hasn't worked, But for Mets players in the past, it's

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Speaker 1: it's ended up being something that has improved their game.

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Speaker 2: And I think probably a lot of it has to

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Speaker 2: do with code is probably like.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to physically be in Syracuse, New York

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Speaker 1: not a cravit school just started again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Don't even have that many games left. No, not particularly

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Speaker 1: we like or like we could talk to some players

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Speaker 1: up in Syracuse. We're like, I think we're okay, go

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Speaker 1: to Syracuse. It's the problem with it and confirm to it.

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Speaker 1: But that's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 3: You guys might know about this by the time you

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Speaker 3: listen to this, but I think i'm since we don't

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Speaker 3: have the the move yet, the corresponding move for brandis

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Speaker 3: Broke being called up.

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Speaker 1: It feels like that kind of might be it. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say that code I does not go down, Okay,

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Speaker 1: then who does. I'm gonna take a look right now

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Speaker 1: at the Mets active roster because he has that option

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Speaker 1: to say no, and that's totally okay, and whatever's in

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Speaker 1: contracts should be, you know, that should be allowed. Looking

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Speaker 1: at this roster of guys, who could send down? I

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Speaker 1: mean they have Kevin Hergan in the bullpen right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess he did. Just pitch him and Hageman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like we said, you could even send down Jared

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Speaker 3: Young just go roll with Actually not just the rule

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Speaker 3: now the twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I the gota keep five guys in the bench, but

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Speaker 1: you could definitely send Kevin Herget or Justin Hagenman down,

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Speaker 1: especially like, Yeah, this isn't gonna happen until Sunday. We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna know the answer probably until Sunday. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason why we're waiting too,

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Speaker 1: What were you gonna say?

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Speaker 3: They probably also tell code that you don't have to

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Speaker 3: go to the minor leagues, but if you stay in

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Speaker 3: the major leagues, you kind of you have to pitch

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Speaker 3: out of the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're the worst guy in this rotation right now.

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Speaker 3: Like there's no clause in your contract says you have

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Speaker 3: to be in the star rotation, and based on the

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Speaker 3: way you've pitched, there's no reason you should be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna end up being one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. I don't see second going down. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: just like you said, out of the bullpen a couple

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Speaker 1: innings at a time. Give me three innings, give us

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Speaker 1: three innings. See what you got to get your stuff right.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a lot of guys that need to get

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Speaker 1: their stuff right right now on the pitching side.

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Speaker 2: Don't particularly like it. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I have the most faith in the guys who have

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Speaker 1: pitched the least. I know.

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Speaker 3: That's also says about a lot about where baseball is now,

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Speaker 3: like tongue and I'm thinking about Peyton totally on the

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Speaker 3: Red Sox too, especially, It's like, if your stuff is

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Speaker 3: good enough, go stocks tweet was awesome where he was like,

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Speaker 3: we now are at the point where we know what

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Speaker 3: a fastball, a slider, all these pitches need to look

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Speaker 3: like in order to be successful at the major league level.

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Speaker 3: Peyton Totley literally had not throw a professional pitch until

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Speaker 3: this season. He got to the major leagues and he

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Speaker 3: looks awesome because the pitches are just exactly what you

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Speaker 3: need to be. Yeah, just even read that tweet from Stock.

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Speaker 3: The pitch has shaped required velocities. They are going to

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Speaker 3: excel to MLB level. Are ninety nine percent figured out

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Speaker 3: in the past when it was more ambiguous. You have

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Speaker 3: to test your pitches at each level and figure it

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Speaker 3: out from there. Now you know what the splittic goals

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Speaker 3: are when you're in rookie ball, and that's it. Pain

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Speaker 3: totally through like thirty innings and the upper miners and

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Speaker 3: they're like, you're definitely good enough. You got to the

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Speaker 3: major leagues and I was like, you're definitely good enough.

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Speaker 1: Shona Tong through eleven inings at Triple A and they

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Speaker 1: were like, get them up here.

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Speaker 2: He's good. There's no way we can continue to waste

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Speaker 2: these boats down the minors.

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Speaker 1: No, that's the other thing too, these Every single pitch

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Speaker 1: is so valuable to these players and teams can't waste it.

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Speaker 2: So it'll be.

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Speaker 1: Interesting to see what happens. James says Code goes to Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: I say he stays in New York. We'd love to

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Speaker 1: more baseball than you already here for multiple hours a week.

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Speaker 1: Alright, guys, that's it, guys, thank you for watching, thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. We will catch you all after the

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Speaker 1: Red series.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, Mets.

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Speaker 1: Let's extend this wildcard lead a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Please, Puss, come Mets.

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