WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Heather Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Of Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This

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<v Speaker 1>classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and Gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to QLs Classic Episode forty two with a pioneering

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<v Speaker 3>adult actress and Heather Hunter of July twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>What can I say? The name holds holly for certain generations.

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<v Speaker 3>Heather Hunter shares a story from life working as a

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<v Speaker 3>co check girl in the fabled legendary Latin Quarter nightclub,

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<v Speaker 3>to blazing trails in Hollywood and the world of porn.

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<v Speaker 3>As the first black woman really allowed in space as

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<v Speaker 3>others have yet to navigate or get to in their life.

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<v Speaker 3>She also gets older and wiser and tells about her

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<v Speaker 3>experience after porn, as a photographer, as a director, as

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<v Speaker 3>a singer. With so many stories she asked to share.

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<v Speaker 3>This was quite a memorable episode with Heather Hunter or

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<v Speaker 3>a QLs classic.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you like it. Don't forget about my.

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<v Speaker 4>Suprema su Su supreme O ro called Suprema Suck Sun

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<v Speaker 4>Supremo role called Suprema Sun Sun Supremo role called Suprema

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<v Speaker 4>Sun Suck Supremo Rod.

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<v Speaker 2>Strange things keep happening. Yeah, I gotta say yeah about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty pounds. Begged me to intern specifically today.

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<v Speaker 4>Suprema roll call Suprema Sun Sun Suprema role call.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Fante, Yeah you understand. Yeah, he a hunter, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>made me a man.

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<v Speaker 4>Suprema role called Suprema Sun Sun Supremo role call.

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Sugar. Yeah, I know our guest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>we used to live together. What at the Riverbank.

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<v Speaker 7>West Supreme rod called Suprema Suck Suck Supremo role called

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<v Speaker 7>am boss Bill.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, used to be a be church. Yeah, this here episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>what's fun to research?

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<v Speaker 4>Suprema Son Suppreva roll cal Suprema Son Sun Supremo roll call.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like, yeah, some reason, it's moist. Yeah, it's heaven.

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<v Speaker 10>Joy You're roll Heather.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think quest put me to a test. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know bars I give blow jobs.

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<v Speaker 4>Supremo roll call, Suprema Son Sun Suprema roll job Supprema

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<v Speaker 4>Supremo roll.

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<v Speaker 8>Well think I've been waiting all day to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode

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<v Speaker 1>of pust Love Supreme. I am your host, u Amir

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson aka Top Daddy love and with me. Today's team

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme at the Helm. We have Fante aka Carolina Cushion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed comfort, I mean no, You're just Carolina Cushion

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<v Speaker 2>to day. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Next to him is our boom, our boom operator, Sugar

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<v Speaker 1>Steve aka Mile Miracle Mandel aka Oil of Oyve.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a mouthful? That took me a second? I got it? Sorry? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my jokes don't fly sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have our director h Next to him is

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<v Speaker 1>our director Bill aka Indiana Slick Smoke, Slicks, Indiana Bones,

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana Bones, Indiana bones.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>And next to him is our first lady like Ea

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<v Speaker 1>aka sweet Pea pinky Toe.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't shoot me in the last time he was Clyde,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know I had to. I had to.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to beat that sweet Pea pinky Toe.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Steven can't beat it. Last but not least, Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen. Our guest today is uh. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>say all about history.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>She's pretty much had the best seat in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh literally from watching the classic age of hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>unfold in real time. Uh, the hip hop that's effected

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<v Speaker 1>our lives as a key staff member of the Latin

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<v Speaker 1>Quarter Nightclub, which, as you know, if you're a listener

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, we cannot stop nerding out about. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course the Latin Court nightclub that made stars out

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<v Speaker 1>of Luminary's like Public Enemy, booking down productions, Uh, Salt

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<v Speaker 1>and Pepper, Latifa, many others. Uh, even to our place

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<v Speaker 1>in history. Uh as an Avan Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, what's the Avian? The Avian Avian?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's the adult video av.

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<v Speaker 9>And now I know, yes, I watched those awards.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, but oh those are the only awards you watched. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she's one of the most celebrated actresses in the

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<v Speaker 1>adult video genre. She's also a radio host, of recording

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<v Speaker 1>artists and art photographer and many more that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to find out today.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to get to know Heather Hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>One question, So wait, wait, wait, before we ask you anything, Stee,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell was up with your voice?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean y'all live together? Yeah? What's the

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<v Speaker 2>what's the name of that place?

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<v Speaker 10>It's everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a building?

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<v Speaker 6>And that's an important forty third and eleventh in Hell's

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<v Speaker 6>Kitchen over there, and.

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<v Speaker 10>That by Freddy. He's living in the same building.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a new building when we were there.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like ninety one ninety two or.

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<v Speaker 10>Something like that, and a great building.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's great, really nice. INDI so, and I don't

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<v Speaker 6>expect to remember me, but I had a dalmation back then,

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<v Speaker 6>and you might remember I was the only person there

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<v Speaker 6>with the dalmation.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, in the elevator.

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<v Speaker 10>And yeah, during my like Riverbank Days party, I was

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<v Speaker 10>a party queen.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you should knocked on my fucking door.

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<v Speaker 10>It was crazy. Oh my god, they kicked me out.

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<v Speaker 10>They build up for too many parties. Yeah, damn. How

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<v Speaker 10>many guys have the best store mat?

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<v Speaker 2>What floor were you on?

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<v Speaker 10>I was on the forty third floor?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I was on twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait is this when you were This is before electric ladies?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, just five years before you were even an engineer.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like ninety one ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I was. I was right out of college.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of money, right, Yeah, now I had two

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<v Speaker 1>roommates in a one bedroom all right, I'm not rich anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So ever, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a pleasure to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I know this, this is one of these

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<v Speaker 2>shows in which.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be absolutely not even Wilfer Lee, but

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely ignorant because I want to find out these things

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<v Speaker 1>in real real person, in real time, not a real person.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so you're from well, I know that you're from

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<v Speaker 2>the Bronx. You were.

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<v Speaker 10>I was born in the Bronx. I was raised in

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<v Speaker 10>Harlem and Brooklyn. So so when I lived in Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 10>that's really mostly when Okay, downtown Brooklyn had Albi Square Mall,

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<v Speaker 10>so yeah, so I used to hang out and Albi

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<v Speaker 10>Square all all of us used to.

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<v Speaker 2>So did you know Haitian Jack.

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<v Speaker 10>I knew Haitian Jack. I knew everybody. I used to

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<v Speaker 10>have lunch with me and bis Market used to share

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<v Speaker 10>the same lunch table all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I hear that at Alb Square Mall, every hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop liminary tells me that Haitian Jack did his best work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Alb Square.

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<v Speaker 1>For those I believe that Haitian Jack and hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>Folkalore was one of the the Jesse James of he has.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's well.

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<v Speaker 1>People were telling me that he had a collection of

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<v Speaker 1>like Everyone's chain, that he ever like slick ricks chain

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<v Speaker 1>and it.

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<v Speaker 10>Was cast that collect it was wold even the lee

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<v Speaker 10>patches back then. Really yeah, back in the day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>you said limited back off the jeans. It was crazy

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<v Speaker 10>doing crazy stuff. You know, collect those as well, but

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<v Speaker 10>inside I'll be square. Literally, it was like a melting

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<v Speaker 10>part of talented people that were going to birth from

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<v Speaker 10>hip hop. It was you never you know, that was

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<v Speaker 10>like our lunchtime. Everybody was down there. We would just

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<v Speaker 10>have lunch. Some of us would be cutting school, but

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<v Speaker 10>it was really more like we're all down there doing music.

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<v Speaker 10>We're creating, right, so if we were freestyling, people were dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>We drove born born in the Bronx. Yeah, raised in Harlem,

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<v Speaker 1>but really grew up in Brooklyn, right, and.

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<v Speaker 10>Grew up in Harlem too. I was really I'm really

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<v Speaker 10>uh wait. I went to in the city when I

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<v Speaker 10>was younger. I went to Catholic school, so I was

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<v Speaker 10>at Pelletier, but then I went to Fashion Industreet's High School.

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<v Speaker 10>I got kicked out of there as well because I

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<v Speaker 10>was doing too much graffiti. So yeah, I was just

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<v Speaker 10>tagging up all the walls Miss forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah. I was in a crew called the craft Work

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<v Speaker 10>Kings back in the day. Yeah, so I used to

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<v Speaker 10>tag with everybody on a train. I used to go

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<v Speaker 10>down hoait and skimmahon and jump on the tracks, go

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<v Speaker 10>into the train yard, New York, real, New York, real,

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<v Speaker 10>for real, for real, man, everything my name would be everywhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I was rolling back then during the same eraw of

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<v Speaker 10>bo with the dot in the middle Lady Pink dyamite one.

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<v Speaker 10>So I was in the crew of craft work Kings,

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<v Speaker 10>like yeah, oh shit.

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<v Speaker 9>Did you ever have any like scary spit moments?

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<v Speaker 10>Was a spit yes, y but still yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>chase from the cops on the yards literally throwing everything,

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<v Speaker 10>had to clean trains never stop.

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<v Speaker 1>So how how how does one man we're killing so

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<v Speaker 1>many birds with the stone here.

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<v Speaker 2>Because how would one get act? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I know now like security isn't wasn't as heavy backman

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<v Speaker 1>as it was now, right, I mean now you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, you stand in front of the turnstile

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<v Speaker 1>second and like five cops run up to you. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>how does one even like even manage to go inside

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<v Speaker 1>the tunnels too without.

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<v Speaker 10>Being back in the days in the eighty nineties, So

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<v Speaker 10>all there was was like that little gate, but we

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<v Speaker 10>would just jump right onto the track launch you didn't

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<v Speaker 10>touch the third rail, you were good. And at Hoyt

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<v Speaker 10>and Skimmahorn that's where all the trains would be, uh

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<v Speaker 10>sitting the C the D you know A and that's

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<v Speaker 10>those are really the numbers I was tagging.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it about that particular spot because I also.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that everybody went there when Michael Jackson shot the

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<v Speaker 1>bad video, right, they shot at Hoyt and skimmer Horn,

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<v Speaker 1>Like everyone's like, that's where you got to shoot that.

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<v Speaker 10>That's the realist, because that was really that's to me,

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<v Speaker 10>that's where street art whenever you jumped on the train,

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<v Speaker 10>that's for all graffiti artists. It had this something about

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<v Speaker 10>Hoyt and Skimmerhorn. That's where you would go at least.

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<v Speaker 10>And then there was another yard up in the Bronx,

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<v Speaker 10>but I didn't since I was in Brooklyn. I was

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<v Speaker 10>always tagging in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>So was it still regional to the point whereas like

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn people that mess with you, you wouldn't go past

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<v Speaker 1>your neighborhood or.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, we're free to tell me fighting tagging on

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<v Speaker 10>each other's different crews names than you're fighting all that?

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<v Speaker 10>It was crazy? Was I was a real tomboy. I'm

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<v Speaker 10>still a tomboy, but there's a you know, I've grown

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<v Speaker 10>into a lady, as you would say, you know, but

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<v Speaker 10>it's that tomboy and it's a hard you know, it's

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<v Speaker 10>in me. But it's amazing. If I think about the

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<v Speaker 10>stuff I did when I was younger, I would not

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<v Speaker 10>be jumping on no train tracks, like god, I can't

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<v Speaker 10>believe I did that. But I was expressing every day.

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<v Speaker 10>You would go to school and you get on the train,

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<v Speaker 10>your name was there. It was a beautiful thing. It

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<v Speaker 10>was like you see your piece of art just flying through.

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<v Speaker 10>And that was really the only way we could express ourselves.

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<v Speaker 10>And then when I got in trouble and I had

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<v Speaker 10>to clean the trains, that's when I was put in

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<v Speaker 10>a program with Keith Haring, and Keith Haring stopped me

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<v Speaker 10>from tagging on trains and I was working more on

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<v Speaker 10>my black book, and then I started painting.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, damn, So you knew.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's crazy because I was like so most of

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<v Speaker 10>the kids that were in his class. You know, it

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<v Speaker 10>was because we were.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so he was a teacher.

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<v Speaker 10>Now he had a program for juvenile delinquent and say

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<v Speaker 10>what he calls that could not stop you know. His

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<v Speaker 10>program was really to help kids understand and create themselves,

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<v Speaker 10>create art, not on de facing property, but really showing

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<v Speaker 10>another place form where you can kind of express itself.

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<v Speaker 10>And it worked for me, Okay, it really did.

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<v Speaker 1>So ed Kach developed like an anti graffiti kind of

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<v Speaker 1>So you'll have to clean the trains.

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<v Speaker 10>Had clean trains.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn, how do you hit that off the train? What

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<v Speaker 2>do they give you back?

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<v Speaker 10>Then there was two different ways you had to do.

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<v Speaker 10>Before it was like this this chemical stuff and we

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<v Speaker 10>had to scrub, you know, And then it got to

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<v Speaker 10>a point where they had the sun, the sand blowers,

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<v Speaker 10>the paintment moves blow, yeah, the blasters. It would needs

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<v Speaker 10>to be at least about ten of us in the

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<v Speaker 10>you know, cleaning trains. At least. I remember when I

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<v Speaker 10>was clean trains.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you were younger, you wanted, you had aspirations

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<v Speaker 2>to be an artist or a designer.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I knew I could dance, I loved hip hop,

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<v Speaker 10>I love music. I just knew I was creative. So

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<v Speaker 10>I was trying to express myself in any form as possible.

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<v Speaker 10>And just like anybody else who's an artist, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>you want to get your stuff out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So were you there at the park jams?

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<v Speaker 1>Any yeah, any notable ones of of memory at least

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bronx or in Brooklyn. I don't know like

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn's true history. I know about Queens And.

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<v Speaker 10>Most of the jams were mostly because I lived in

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<v Speaker 10>Four Green, ok. So I lived on the other side

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<v Speaker 10>of Fort Green from the Four Green Projects. So a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of jams happened with us within Four Green Projects.

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<v Speaker 10>That was pretty much like my my life in it.

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<v Speaker 10>But if I can't you know, my god, I got

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<v Speaker 10>in so much trouble in that park. Let alone just

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<v Speaker 10>blow jobs. But I got in trouble, you know what

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<v Speaker 10>I mean. I'm sorry, you know, doing it in the park,

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<v Speaker 10>doing Four Green Park. Oh yeah, that was right park.

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<v Speaker 10>It was a very freaky park. Yeah park.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>So, but oh, Dodie Bassett was so funny, Like if

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<v Speaker 10>I think about just where I grew up, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>because they were in Fork Green Projects, So I lived

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<v Speaker 10>on the other side where you consider it like Crookling,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, like the movie Crookling. So whenever I would

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<v Speaker 10>like date somebody in the projects, oh my god, to

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<v Speaker 10>fight so many girls to get over to the projects.

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<v Speaker 10>So I knew for so long of being so young,

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<v Speaker 10>I knew oh dirty bassiad for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 10>So when I got into porn later in life, oh

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<v Speaker 10>my god, Oh my god. He would chase me everywhere

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<v Speaker 10>and I love oh D that was my boy. But

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<v Speaker 10>it just it blew his mind. You know. I think

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of people from the hip hop industry that

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<v Speaker 10>are pioneers now because we all grew up together. So

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<v Speaker 10>to see me take a different direction and then realize

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<v Speaker 10>that that was me later, yeah, I was people.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you take a one eighty where I assumed that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't look the guy like you really have not aged.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit since I first seen you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just saying that the image that we have

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<v Speaker 1>of Heather Hunter, you know, the goddess had the Hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>was that not your image when you were in your

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<v Speaker 1>teens or Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>I had that image, But then I guess I oozed

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<v Speaker 10>it was just oozing sexuality from me. You know, I

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<v Speaker 10>had this energy. I guess I wore flat top, I

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<v Speaker 10>rocked the chili e haircut. You know, I was in

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<v Speaker 10>my own little vibe. But for some strange reason, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I ooh sexuality.

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<v Speaker 9>Wasn't it like a moment? Was there like a moment.

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<v Speaker 11>Do you remember because you said you were tagging you

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<v Speaker 11>were tomboy, So were you still you were still had

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<v Speaker 11>that sexual inside you.

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<v Speaker 10>It's more when my boob started growing, guys started looking

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<v Speaker 10>at me different and things started different. Puberty, I know it,

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<v Speaker 10>but you know, I think my traumatic moment took me

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<v Speaker 10>a left turn and I went into the streets. I

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<v Speaker 10>kind of ran away, so most of the people that

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<v Speaker 10>I was still doing music and focusing. I was really

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<v Speaker 10>kind of trying to find my way of what I

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<v Speaker 10>wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your traumatic moment?

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<v Speaker 10>I got raped? That was actually the first time I

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<v Speaker 10>lost my virginity. So that kind of from that moment.

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<v Speaker 10>When you're in this childhood and impact like that happens

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<v Speaker 10>to you, you kind of get lost in translation in

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<v Speaker 10>every form which direct, you know. So I think after

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<v Speaker 10>that situation, I decided to I think any woman that

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<v Speaker 10>or anybody who ever gets raped, the most important thing

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<v Speaker 10>is to take control of it and really find a

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<v Speaker 10>way to empower yourself through it. So I went into

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<v Speaker 10>the sex business. I went into the adult business because

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<v Speaker 10>I had all control. It was at that point I

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<v Speaker 10>can throw every man that anything he desired or woman,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, it was just really what I wanted versus

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<v Speaker 10>what they wanted.

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<v Speaker 11>Was it in between the traumatic event and you going

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<v Speaker 11>into the industry. Was there any like love situation like

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<v Speaker 11>did you have did you fall off somebody? Did you

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<v Speaker 11>have did you get the love making process? No?

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<v Speaker 10>I was searching through the love through the adult business

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<v Speaker 10>because I started stripping at the age of sixteen. So

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<v Speaker 10>that's what makes it deep about Latin Quarters because when

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<v Speaker 10>I was running away, I didn't have a place to

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<v Speaker 10>stay and there was this guy. I used to go

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<v Speaker 10>to Latin Quarter at that time, you know, always Latin Quarters,

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<v Speaker 10>and I realized I needed to stay somewhere. And mister Goldberg,

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<v Speaker 10>God bless his soul, the owner of Latin Quarters. He

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<v Speaker 10>really took me in him and Eddie Bell, he recipes.

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<v Speaker 10>Eddie Bell was a great boy, one of my best friends,

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<v Speaker 10>and he was like, Okay, you're always hanging out here,

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<v Speaker 10>Let's give you a job. And Eddie Bell introduced me

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<v Speaker 10>to Goldberg and immediately he took a liking to me,

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<v Speaker 10>and I started being a co check girl and working

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<v Speaker 10>a door at Latin Quarters. Sometimes I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>the guest list girl, definitely mostly the co check girl.

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<v Speaker 10>But then it goes to the point where I started

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<v Speaker 10>working for mister Goldberg in his office because he also

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<v Speaker 10>co managed. If I can't remember David Copperfield, there was

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<v Speaker 10>something of a business that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yer random. Yeah, it's very weird.

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<v Speaker 10>It's like he had some management business with somebody else

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<v Speaker 10>with David Copperfield. So all the calls would come in,

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<v Speaker 10>I would take the calls. Things would happen like that.

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<v Speaker 10>But then he realized I didn't have a place to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wondering, like if ever one night he was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, yeah, stop by the club.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah. I wound up living in Latin Quarters for at

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<v Speaker 10>least two months.

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<v Speaker 1>You lived there, I've heard that. Everyone says, yeah, hell,

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<v Speaker 1>they used to live there. I didn't know that you

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<v Speaker 1>literally literally.

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<v Speaker 9>An apartment with a kitchen.

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<v Speaker 10>Now see, people don't realize about Latin Quarters because you

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<v Speaker 10>know upstairs and going up towards the attic. Latin Quarters.

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<v Speaker 10>If I could remember, the history used to be like

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<v Speaker 10>this beautiful like cabaret club back in the days, restaurant

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<v Speaker 10>cabaret club. I think it was even brand Thory. I

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<v Speaker 10>think Italian off. I don't know if I can remember

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<v Speaker 10>the history. But when you went upstairs in the attic

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.320
<v Speaker 10>area of Latin Quarters. It was like going into the

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<v Speaker 10>nineteen thirties, Like it was beautiful, like the furniture, it

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<v Speaker 10>was stuff that you would see like in a cotton

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<v Speaker 10>club back in the days, one of those Roaring thirties

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<v Speaker 10>and forties, And it was so untouched and you could

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<v Speaker 10>feel the spirits and the haunting of the place, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>because I stay there. Was really spooky sometimes at night

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<v Speaker 10>because then I heard a couple of history. After I

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<v Speaker 10>heard about Lane Quarters, was something back in the day,

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<v Speaker 10>some lady passed away on stage, you know, just the

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<v Speaker 10>history that I was hearing about.

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<v Speaker 2>Life back in the sausagezz day.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, sausage Jazz days. So well, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 10>stayed there. The security guard used to look out for

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<v Speaker 10>me there, Okay, I can't remember his name, Such a

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<v Speaker 10>good man.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Paradise and those guys started, I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>first party was Celebrity Tuesdays, right, So when they started

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<v Speaker 1>those nights, I'm just I'm not weirded out because I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the same people that tell me these stories of

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<v Speaker 1>quote back in the day also the same people that

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<v Speaker 1>today thirty years later have sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Just made a just made eye of New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Now like it's gingrified and you know, forty second streets

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<v Speaker 1>all Disney fired and tourist out and.

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<v Speaker 2>Not as hip as it used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I have to I mean as a person,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up an extremely sheltered childhood. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like none of you were worried about the danger

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<v Speaker 1>element of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Night club, not even the owner.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the owner wasn't at all like worried about like

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<v Speaker 1>any any danger element happening, you know.

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<v Speaker 10>Because it was danger every night, yeah, pretty much every

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<v Speaker 10>other night. It could be nice if we had a

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<v Speaker 10>good night, you know, it would be a point.

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<v Speaker 1>Where so good night would would be what like, no

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<v Speaker 1>one got nobody.

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<v Speaker 10>Got beat up. But then you'll see gold chains flying

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<v Speaker 10>in the air because somebody yanked the gold chain off

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 10>of somebody. They would throw it to their boy on

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<v Speaker 10>the other side, so you can see it from the

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<v Speaker 10>DJ booth. Somebody get yanked, they throw it and throw

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 10>it to somebody. But sometimes at the end of the night,

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<v Speaker 10>it was great because at the end of the night,

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<v Speaker 10>after it was trying to clean up some goal, she

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.160
<v Speaker 10>would be God, you got weaves, you got hair, extensions

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 10>on the floor, you got stuff that you were like,

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 10>but you were coming up there was girls bamboo ear rings.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me interject, I'm gonna do a very special version

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<v Speaker 1>of for one second. When you hear this, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the very first thing you think of? Now, I've heard

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>people tell me about this, but when you hear this,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the first thing you think of?

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<v Speaker 2>So Daddy O told me what I didn't know. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as a member of a hip hop man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my calling card. Like, oh, a classic hip hop song?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, what's the word on?

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<v Speaker 1>When this ship was played at the Latin Quarter, you instantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was like lost your chain?

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, whenever anyone like for people when they hear

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<v Speaker 1>that role, it's a traumatic thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in case there's a band from Brooklyn, I go steps,

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<v Speaker 2>step by steps. So when that drum roll happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I found out that it's it's traumatic to some New

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Yorkers because.

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<v Speaker 2>That would mean that robbed. You were about to get robbed.

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<v Speaker 10>If your chain was stolen, you gotta be you're definitely

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 10>had a buck up. There were certain songs that would

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 10>go off in the night and you would just know

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.119
<v Speaker 10>this is this is what turns them up, you know.

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<v Speaker 10>And and yet y'all still played them and.

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<v Speaker 1>And you went so at No, at no point where

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<v Speaker 1>was your life in danger or anything?

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 10>Well, do you me personally? No, because everybody protected me.

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 10>Everyone in there, Like literally between Paradise La Mumba, I

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<v Speaker 10>had every from the X clan to Professor Professor Yea,

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 10>even my boy from Public Enemy. Every everybody teddy ted,

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 10>all of them. They all were like my big brothers.

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<v Speaker 10>They no one dared not to touch me. It's it was,

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<v Speaker 10>it was this is a one crazy experience. I was

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<v Speaker 10>working the door. This is when L L COOLJ first

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<v Speaker 10>came out. Yeah, I love l Let's start off with this.

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<v Speaker 10>And I told Elle later because he didn't realize it

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 10>was me, you know. But this is when Ella just

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 10>came out. He had his radio, he was looking fly,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 10>you know, he was at his peak, you know. And

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 10>Latin Court is security was not something to mess with,

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean. They really didn't care who

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 10>you were. They were gonna stomp you out. They won't

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 10>if there was a problem. They did not care. It

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:56.199
<v Speaker 10>was the most toughest security. There's no security like l

0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 10>Q security today. Really hands down, no, so how many.

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 10>Sometimes it would be like outside it was so crazy

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.239
<v Speaker 10>because it'd be like three or four outside, but by

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 10>the time something pop off, they'd like ten people out there.

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 10>They're like ten dudes stomping on somebody or even other

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.239
<v Speaker 10>people from the club that work in the club. It

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 10>was just madness. Was it was so madness. But for

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 10>some streets reason, you've you felt at peace. I can't

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 10>explain it, because it was like it was like a

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 10>chaotic church, you know. I you know, there was something

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 10>very special about the place, but then there was something

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 10>very dark too, you know, right, it had this uh

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 10>definitely this double edged sword when it came to and

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 10>because there was so much, so much talent in that place,

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 10>Like I would be on a dance floor with salt

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 10>and pepper utfo like everybody clean the teetha light, all

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 10>of us on the floor and no one. Everybody know

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 10>they're talented and they're special, you know, but it's like

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 10>you would never know, like to see where everybody is

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 10>calipulted to. Now it's a beautiful thing, but you could

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 10>feel that everybody in that club was going to turn

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 10>turn into something. It was going to be something so

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 10>what happened with l L actually came up to me.

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 10>You know, he's just being it was all in my face.

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 10>And at that time, I was dating one of the

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 10>security dudes, the head of security, and he was just

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 10>blah blah blah blah, and it was like I was like,

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 10>back up, and it was just kind of crazy. And

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 10>then I just flipped and I said security and that's

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 10>all I had to say. Whenever. It was at that

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 10>point and as soon as I know, L was out

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 10>the club. You know, he was out the club, you know.

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 10>And then later years later, when I became quote unquote

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 10>head hunter and years like it, I saw L and

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.120
<v Speaker 10>I told Elle. I was like, do you remember me?

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 10>And he was like some Latin quarters. He's like, nah,

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 10>I don't. I said, do you remember a girl when

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 10>you had you only got kicked out Latin quarter once?

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 10>He was like, oh my god, that was you.

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>So was he trying to holler?

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 10>I was trying to holler. But then after you know,

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 10>it was and you gotta but you gotta think about it.

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 10>He's l L. Every girl wanted l L. Back then.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 9>He was coming strong.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 10>But I was a different type of chick and my

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 10>man worked. He said the security. And I was young girl,

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 10>and I you know, like I said, all you have

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 10>to do is say security in it with me. It

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 10>was this, Okay, the most remarkable moment I remember of

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 10>Latin Quarters int when Public Enemy performed. Really, oh my god.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, you're probably the only person that has a

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>positive view of this, because even Chuck himself was like.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>It.

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 10>It was so intense. It threw everybody off. And I

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 10>think at that time, to me, their presentation, everything that

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 10>woul puppic Ennemys stand for and just they staged for

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 10>presence was to me gripping, you know. And I think

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 10>you know, there was always confident this. You know, everybody

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 10>has confidicent what they thought was hot on stage because

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 10>they weren't on stage. Everybody was getting an opportunity to

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 10>be on stage.

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask this. Can you describe Melly Milons?

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Can you describe Melly Milk, because again and all my

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and all my research of Latin Quarter folklore, Melly mils

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>If the Latin Quarters were the Muppets, then he.

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Stalin like the two guys in the balcony were like

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 2>for Grumpy, Yeah, like was.

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Were they like the first guys in the club and

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the last few guys to leave, or like, what was

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>their presence in that club.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 10>Well, it's so funny every between Grand Massive, Flash, Mister Broadway,

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 10>all of them. To me, it was just funny because

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 10>like back then that era, especially with hip hop, it

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 10>seemed like they were every artist was dressing like a

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 10>male stripper, you know what I mean.

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>It was like another member of Earth, Wind and Fire.

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 10>And it was it was like everybody came out to shine.

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 10>So yeah, everybody stayed to the end. Some people would

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 10>leave before the end because that's when a lot of

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 10>things would pop off at the end of the night.

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 10>Uh yeah, and those lights would come on and off,

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 10>on and off, on and off throughout the night. Music

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 10>was shut up, something happened. Lights back on, lights back off,

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 10>music still going. Uh but I said, they missed the Broadway.

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 10>And I used to laugh because now, if I think

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 10>about it, he used to wear these little purple tights,

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 10>you know.

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Pants, and you're.

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 10>Still the eighties, you know.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's to me that that time and ever there's

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 10>nothing like it. I've never experienced anything like that club before.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Was there a historic hip hop occurrence or something that

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you remember where it was just that besides publicain me, like,

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>was there one moment where you felt I mean, because

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things historically happened. Man, I think what

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>hammered got booed there? And Valve Revenge? I just found

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>out they cadn't play. Also, uh, their initial group.

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember. That's company too.

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I remember, I remember to check it myself. I just

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>love the fact that you too are going down. You're

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>not gonna find it on Google built two hype.

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 9>It's like high energy or something like that.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>No, it's something.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>But as that incarnation they got booed and they came

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>back as kitt and play.

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Who were the IOE You dancers?

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 10>I was in the IOU. I was the only girl

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 10>in the io you really, So what.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Was it like? Y'all were just a click of dancers that.

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 10>I forced myself in that group, really, I really did. Uh.

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 10>And then even with rock Steady Crew because Crazy Legs,

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 10>you just teach me how to dance, so I would

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 10>be on a dance world with Crazy Legs. But they

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 10>were all boy group dance crews. A lot of dance

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 10>crews back then, and I you of the best they

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 10>would dance a lot for mostly the artists background, and

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 10>then they would do like different segments in between the shows.

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 10>So they were pretty much like the house dancers dance

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 10>crew of Latin Quarters.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Ye're here, Like every week they would invent They literally

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>invented everything from yeah, cabbage fast to everything the rebox

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to you know, didn't play the felile like oh wow.

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>They literally invented every dance that you'd see. Man, you know,

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>it made it national.

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 2>So do you remember the last night of the club,

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>like what ended the Latin Quarter?

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 10>Honestly, I really it was really about Goldberg was selling it.

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 10>You know, he had to sell it. He was just

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 10>going on for his own. From that point, I was

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 10>in the adult world at that point.

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>What year was that?

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 10>Oh god, around what time was that? I think I

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 10>was by nineteen nineteen years old, eighteen nineteen eighteen, Yeah, eighteen,

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 10>that's when I was gone because that's when I went

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 10>to LA But yeah, after my eighteenth nineteenth that's when

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 10>it started changing over the point you made before. The

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 10>most specialties to me was the most special night about

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 10>Latin Quarters was when Scottlanrox wake. That was the most peaceful,

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 10>touching night that I could ever remember of Latin Quarters,

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 10>like everyone came at peace, everybody was. It was just

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 10>one of those moments that you would never ever forget,

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean, And even people in there

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 10>you could just feel like, you know, we need to

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 10>do better, right, you know?

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 2>I heard that?

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I guess Paradise kind of wanted to change the

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Paradise was the the promoter, right, the promoter Paradise of

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.280
<v Speaker 1>of the celebrity Tuesdays?

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Was it always on a Tuesday or any other nights?

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 10>It was on Tuesdays, but then there was always private

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 10>events sometime I was there mostly when I was working there,

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 10>I was always there, like five days a week.

0:34:54.640 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Celebrity Tuesday was on the Saturday. Actually asked him, with

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Celebrity Tuesdays on Tuesday?

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I just meant, were hip hop Nights only on Tuesday Sunday?

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 10>If I believe I can remember, I think Sunday as well.

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 12>Look shot at you said, maybe maybe do it?

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.240
<v Speaker 2>I met? Was hip hop night only on Tuesday?

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm in charge of sarcasm anyway, I don't know what

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 6>the hell?

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, what what I'm what I meant to ask was,

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>was I heard that Paradise implemented more the the afrocentric

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>phase of where hip hop was going to with the Medallions,

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>with ben Boda's presence there, with the Zulu presence that

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>he was actually responsible for that and was kind of

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to phase out the the gold chain violent side

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>of hip hop due to Scott's death and now trying

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to implement more afrocentricity, which is pretty.

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Much how so was Paradise. Was he a producer face

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 2>like he wasn't one of.

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 10>The Paradise was literally, my god, Paradise between Paradise with

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 10>gold mister Goldberg, he handled a lot of stuff for him,

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 10>the handle he banished a lot of stuff. And then

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 10>he was a promoter. Uh there was a few promoters

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 10>so now yeah, also but you know you had read

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 10>Alert and Special K and ted Ted. They were mostly

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 10>the regular DJs in there. But yeah, between Paradise was

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 10>the man. He was a guy and he really that

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 10>was like that's like my big brother Padise. Oh yeah, definitely.

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 10>He just wrote a book. He just put out a

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 10>photography book. No half stepan there you go.

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Ah, I've seen this got you.

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 10>But it's one thing and I taped on something that's

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 10>so different between now versus the Latin quarter era with

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 10>the girls in the club, you know, as when I

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 10>was growing up in the club. Even this genres even

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 10>like so all of them can even definitely can relate

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 10>to this. We were B girls, do you know what

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 10>I mean? So it seems like the B girl had

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 10>that era versus now, we had so much respect. They

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 10>treated us like they gave us respect. The men in

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 10>hip hop, it was like they put you on a

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 10>pedestal versus now it's not like that, you know. And

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 10>my whole thing is like bringing something back. I really

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 10>wish I could bring back the big girl essence, you know,

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 10>and make men and hip hop recognized that versus in

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 10>the eighty and nineties how they treated girls. I mean,

0:37:52.400 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 10>it's so different, yes, because you know, my god, you know,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 10>I'm so happy I was a big girl.

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>So when you graduated New York or did you what

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>did did you feel like that you were outgrowing New York?

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Like what called you to Los Angeles?

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 10>Porn?

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 11>Don't avoid it, just get it, don't avoid it, just

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 11>get it.

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 10>Just don't you just wait.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Talking about talking about you.

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 9>I was like, just get out the Latin court and

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.479
<v Speaker 9>go into them because that's where she went. That's where

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 9>she went.

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 10>And then when I got back, it was when I

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 10>got back then it was a tunnel, you know.

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, different, it went from that was my era.

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 10>It went from Irving Plaza to tunnel and things were changing. Now.

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 10>You know that was my era too, because I did

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 10>a lot. I was a promoter a lot for tunnel.

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 10>What didn't you do?

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 2>So let's tackle that issue.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>As like, all right, so you you go to Los Angeles, Like,

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>how did you How do you get into the industry?

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 2>How does one get into the.

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Industry, especially when the time here that you were in

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the industry. You know, I'm certain that porn is probably

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>one of the most racist cultures of all time. Like

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the titles I would see it was like again like

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 1>fried Chicken and fucking all that, all the stuff in

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>mind No, like nah, I got my uncle, like Ray

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Victory and barc Fine three like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So how.

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you navigate your way to the status that you

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.879
<v Speaker 1>became because as far as I'm concerned, like you were,

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>at least from my point of view, you kind of

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>were equal billing of the white actresses of the of

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the time, right, Yeah, you weren't doing like super derogatory.

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 10>It was because I had a really good manager. He

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 10>had a magical idea. When we kicked me off.

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 2>The magic like, let's treat you.

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, let's not tell them what your colored skin is.

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:23.879
<v Speaker 10>We're gonna put your first movie out and it's gonna

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 10>be Heather. And it was like we're gonna ignore that.

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 10>You're no, no, no, I'm saying, as in, when you're

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 10>doing promo, before you're doing promo to put out for

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 10>adult like promo goes out. So the whole team was

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 10>like throwing out Heather, Heather, and then my face was

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 10>so shown. And then that's when I started standing up

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 10>for everything.

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>But what what's promo?

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 10>And the adult world back then promo adult wore was

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 10>like okay, uh A v N. When you had the

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 10>A B n's back then, so they would give flyers,

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 10>you promote things. It was mostly like street teaming stuff,

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:06.280
<v Speaker 10>you know. And then you know, the Internet was only

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 10>created for porn back then, so if you were on

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 10>the Internet at that time, you knew exactly what was

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 10>going on, at least with in the adult world, you know.

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 10>And then I stood up for every right from there on,

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 10>I refused to be treated I want to be treated

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 10>no matter what color my skin is. So I really

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 10>stood up. I broke through a lot of color barriers.

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 10>I stayed to my convictions, and it's really about knowing

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 10>your worth and sticking to it.

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 5>You know, how old you when you did your first

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:39.760
<v Speaker 5>movie eighteen eight I did it on my birthday.

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 10>Wow, what was October first? Okay, yeah, that's.

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 2>What was the first? What was that experience? Like, just

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:52.720
<v Speaker 2>your first time on camera?

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 10>Oh, it's crazy. It was really crazy because I realized

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 10>how wild the people were in the business, you know

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 10>what I mean. And I was like, wow, this is crazy.

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 10>It seemed like I danced through it like I was

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 10>kind of like an out of body experience, you know,

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 10>do you know what to expect? Like I had no clue.

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 10>And then when this girl pulled out this back then,

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 10>it was really no dil though. She put out one

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 10>of these big massages. She was vibe you.

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 9>Know massage, yes, yes, expenses.

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 10>That was actually the first time I actually was with

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 10>on cameras the very first time.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So the first time was with the girl. It wasn't

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 2>with the guy.

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 10>It was no, it was a guy. But it was

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 10>my first time actually having a girl. Oh okay, I

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.399
<v Speaker 10>mean I was attracted to girls. It was my first

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 10>time really going all the way in.

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, how are you not self conscious about it?

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm pretty sure that some part of porn is scientific,

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>as in, okay, stop cut.

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 2>We need this angle right here. And you know.

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>There's no manual to guide you through that or any training.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So how do you just you got to catch on

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>quick and man.

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, honestly, I say, you know, that's why the

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 10>difference between now how everybody's really over top with their

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 10>sexuality and not really understanding it. When in the point business,

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 10>you really have to be a professional. You have to

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 10>have that professional state of mind because if you don't

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 10>and you just dip in, you can lose it along

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 10>the way, you know what I mean. So oh yeah,

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 10>I could lose it a long way. So you have

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 10>to already be a natural freak. I think it has

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 10>to be already in you have no inhibitions, you know,

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:47.919
<v Speaker 10>comfortable with sexuality.

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 9>But did you know how much of a freak you

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 9>were like that age?

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, because you still have to become more of

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 11>a freak, you know what I mean, Like eighteen freak

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 11>Heather is different than ten years later.

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 10>I'm more freakier now, but I'm a domestic freak now.

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 10>I got a man, you know, I'm home, you know,

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 10>you know, but it's a different it's different dynamic now.

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 10>But I think the older you get, you get more freakier,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 10>you know.

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at you to leave this conversation.

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 5>But what is the difference between sex on camera and

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 5>or rather, how do you differentiate between sex on camera

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 5>and like you say, like domestic sex or sensitizing?

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like how do you how do you how do

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you have?

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 5>Like you is it like you have a scene with

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 5>somebody and it's like, oh, great job and let's hook

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 5>up later, or.

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Is it just a line? It's like that was that?

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 2>And now?

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 10>Well that's the thing. When I was in porn, I

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 10>only dated porn stars males that I wouldn't date somebody

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 10>out I call y'all civilians. I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 10>do it because honestly, I was like, why you want

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.760
<v Speaker 10>to date me doing porn? You know, because I wouldn't

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 10>want to date me, you know. So I had this thing,

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 10>now date male porn starts, so yeah, I got to

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.879
<v Speaker 10>pick all my men because I work for Vivid, So

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 10>it was yeah, we would go from there and then

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 10>we would have awkward sex in front of the camera

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 10>and everybody telling you to do something. It's just like

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 10>you can't even enjoy it. So you would go back

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 10>into the bathroom after your scene was done, and then

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 10>y'all could actually have and get it in if y'all

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 10>were together, if you felt like it.

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 2>So it is acting. How much of that is acting?

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 10>Oh, it's acting. It's hard.

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 9>How can you act with your your body has to respond?

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 10>No, because it's like, okay, perfect example, I was watching

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 10>a porn. I just had this discussion with somebody. I

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 10>was just watching porn and like I say, if I

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 10>meet a guy when I was single, if I met

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 10>a guy and he's like wants to pound pound, he's

0:45:56.080 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 10>doing everything like a porno movie. And no, it's like

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 10>that in good you know. No, No, no, it's not

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 10>good because like when you're watching the porn, even when

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 10>we're having sex on camera, we got to speed up

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 10>so it looks exciting for the viewer. We have to

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.760
<v Speaker 10>we have to do everything to make it look so exciting.

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 10>And then when we're about exciting and into it. They're like, cut, okay,

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.479
<v Speaker 10>we gotta do this, turn the angle, go this way,

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:29.280
<v Speaker 10>all right, you gotta you know, So we got.

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>A whole new generation that watches porn and repeats it

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and yeah and all.

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 2>And they ain't even they ain't need to go now

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I see.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I know.

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>You said so disappointed.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 10>Because they're professional entertainers. That's what we're doing.

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 11>That's a problem. Men watch porn, they think sometimes No.

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 10>It's not that you know, is it.

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that for the male performer, it's almost

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a bigger pressure to instantly performed, because I mean,

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.760
<v Speaker 1>women can fake orgasms like no body's visually.

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 10>But now they got viagra. Like in my eraror it

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 10>was hard, you know. Now the guys are just yeah, I'm.

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Just saying like just like on que, like okay, let's

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:14.359
<v Speaker 2>hurry up.

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Ray victory, perfect sample. He could not come unless

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 10>you had red high heels on. Shut it. Yeah, he

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 10>was banging so much. He could not come. He did

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 10>not care who you were. I remember I had a

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 10>scene with them and I had my little you know,

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 10>because I was so very girl. Next story, I had

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 10>my little skippies on.

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 2>He was like they ain't gonna get it.

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 10>That ain't gonna do it. That's not gonna do it.

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 10>They had to go get me. Yeah, red high heel.

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, I'm kind of like the the

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the yoga era of porn and this whole like what

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>was the yoga era?

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 1>The yoga era? I mean, I mean they have different things.

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 1>They have like a lot. It's always the same back up, Like.

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's either the pizza delivery scene, Oh.

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 9>Okay, set up, Yeah, I just oh, now there's yoga

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 9>class or.

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.280
<v Speaker 10>In my head, yes, yes.

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The sports gym look is not.

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's not hot, it's it's not personally sexy to me, Okay, but.

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:23.439
<v Speaker 2>You know it's love who.

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 11>Yo isn't just to get get you out of your

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 11>your whole you're going into it? Isn't porn one of

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 11>the one of the only industries where the men is

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 11>inequality between the men and the women in pay where

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 11>the men get paid less or is that yeah.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 10>The men get paid less. Certain guys, if you're a

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 10>star guy, you could probably make more money than the girls.

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 10>But if you're in gay porn, they make more money.

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:50.479
<v Speaker 10>They make money. Take like the women. Yeah, so it's

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 10>you know, I have a lot of colleagues that are

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 10>in the business that I've been out of the business

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 10>for twenty eight years now. I've been retired, so it's

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 10>been a long time. I kind of keep in touch

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 10>with certain people because I certain people I do like

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 10>that's still in the business, or like I like Missy Stone.

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 10>I think she's a good person.

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 9>So mentoring a little bit, how do you mentor a

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 9>little bit?

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 10>My whole life is a question every day, you know,

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 10>My every day is you know, uh, it's interesting. It

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 10>comes to my my uh rings on my phone every day,

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:32.800
<v Speaker 10>questions everything. So I think the business itself and I

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 10>still and I think people look at me and I'm

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 10>not anti porn. You know, a lot of people think, wow,

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 10>she's not porn, she feels. My only view about porn

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 10>is I just really wish that they would practice safe sex.

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 10>How was that bothered? Well, I left because I wasn't gonna.

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 10>I was wearing condoms anyway, as soon as I came about,

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.280
<v Speaker 10>I was wearing condoms. But after I do, I was

0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 10>telling I tell this all the time. When I did

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 10>a movie in Her Life, a Vivid and I was

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 10>doing a scene in a non erupting volcano. It was

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 10>down inside the volcano with Vince somebody for you, and

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 10>I'm like, why am I down here? Because after taxes,

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 10>it's not gonna be worth it. Between my health taxes,

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 10>I can't do this no more, you know what I mean.

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 10>It's just it's just I think I started growing up,

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 10>you know, I started kind of waking up and realizing,

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 10>you know, there's more things that are important, which is

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 10>your health and making sure you stay on this earth.

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:36.399
<v Speaker 10>Because that business is like going into war. You can

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:41.879
<v Speaker 10>come out a soldier unscathed, or you can come out

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 10>and you can really die, you know what I mean.

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 1>How thorough are they as far as making sure that

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I had my papers and I'm tested and there's someone

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>always on the set that's like okay, let me and

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>someone could lie about it.

0:50:57.719 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Detroit.

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah it was Darren James was him.

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>It sounds really I think I just knew that he

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 1>went to Brazil and he got infected. I know that

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the industry had to shut down for a month or so,

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Like who who are the police dogs that enforces that?

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:20.359
<v Speaker 2>And like in the age that it.

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 10>Is now, that was so crazy.

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like pull out your iPhone.

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 10>It's impossible to. I mean, you have your set companies

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 10>that still the the protocol you take get tested every

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 10>time you do a movie. Uh, these people still choose to.

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 10>They don't want you to wear condoms, but if you

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 10>want to, you have to really insist it. Sometimes you

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.360
<v Speaker 10>won't get hired because you just want to wear condoms.

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 10>So I was a Vivid So I was contract girl,

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 10>So I was able to wear condoms if I choose to.

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 2>What was that the highest owner back then? Like to

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 2>be a Vivid like.

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 10>Now, oh yeah, even to this day, to be a

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 10>Vivid girl, they're still yeah.

0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 11>I mean Kim and ray J took them to another level, right,

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 11>and then it just went back that was Vivid.

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 9>That was Vivid r R.

0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>You said that alacrity, that was the empire built.

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 9>For like yeah, that was the Kardashian empire. Yeah, and

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 9>that was probably.

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 10>Be a Vivid girl. I always will. It's something that

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:19.799
<v Speaker 10>I'm not gonna, uh forget up my life because it

0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 10>was they were a great company.

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Were your peers as nice to you and or that thing?

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Or was it like was it Caddy?

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:32.840
<v Speaker 10>As far as I know, all my the vivid girls.

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 10>I was cool with one I punched in the face.

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:41.439
<v Speaker 10>Who was that? That's hilarious.

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 9>You just want to know what she is the one?

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 10>It was one I punched in the face.

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Who you have punch? Who was?

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 10>I'm not going to say, why did you have the

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:52.719
<v Speaker 10>h what she do? Uh? We were all on set

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 10>waiting for her, all the vivid girls, one step waiting

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 10>for I was really sick, and she decides that she

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:04.399
<v Speaker 10>showed up like four hour She went to go get

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 10>her hair bleached, and I was sick. And then she

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:09.520
<v Speaker 10>came in just like I could do what evan, what

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 10>you're gonna do with it? Not just softer? What you

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 10>going to do?

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Did she still do the same?

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 10>My Keisha came out and that's socked and and then

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 10>they said they sent her home and I finished the shoot.

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 9>You know, her face was fucked up. Her face was fucked.

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 10>After that, she began like she really wanted to be

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 10>my best friend. From there on.

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to get posted.

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 10>It's funny, it's funny, but yeah, no, everybody's always respectful.

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:36.320
<v Speaker 10>We were like the Brady.

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Bunch, say for.

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>The environment you grew up in as a New Yorker,

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and the time that you grew up in as a

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 1>New Yorker, You're very nurturing and not necessarily like usually

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.959
<v Speaker 1>there's a hard exterior or a defensive exterior, and most

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>New Yorkers, I know, like I haven't. I've yet to

0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>hear you say what happened or like any brook when

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 1>sort of terminology that lets me know that you're like

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you've been.

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Through ship and lived through ship. Dead ass.

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 10>But that's that's when I said, Keisha, come, that's my

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 10>middle name. That's when Keisha comes out, you know what

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 10>I mean?

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, what is your real name?

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:21.439
<v Speaker 10>My name is Heather Keisha Hunter.

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what made you go into your real name?

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 10>My father he said, be proud of your name. You

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 10>have a powerful name.

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 2>So when he found out you were doing Paul, what

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 2>was his reaction.

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 10>He was like, he was not shocked. It was more

0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 10>or less. My father always I could rob a bank,

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 10>and my dad was like, she's the best bank robber.

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:40.919
<v Speaker 10>You know. I could do no wrong in my father's eyes,

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 10>which was beautiful because that helped me, you know, you

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:45.320
<v Speaker 10>know along the way.

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, let your mother in the picture as well.

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, my mom too. My mom still don't get it.

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 10>She looked at me like, what did you do so

0:54:57.560 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 10>get it? You know, she still don't get it.

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a large family? You have cousins a

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 2>huge family because you are the krim of.

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, your name is pop culture reference in many

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of hip hop's rhymes.

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Is it weird for your cousins or whatever?

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 10>Like to like, how well my sisters I have to

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 10>you know, it's interesting my younger sisters. If you saw

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 10>my younger right, okay, yeah, my younger sister. You know,

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.480
<v Speaker 10>I knew it was going to be hard for them

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:40.919
<v Speaker 10>because they're both beautiful, they attractive. But what I loved

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 10>about them they were raised so strong, good head on

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:49.839
<v Speaker 10>their shoulders that no matter what comes away, or if

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:51.720
<v Speaker 10>somebody was like, oh you have to have a sister

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 10>or something, they really handle it. You know, they never

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:58.439
<v Speaker 10>wanted to stray away from it, you know. And then

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 10>my male cousins, all of them use my name like,

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 10>oh I could get pussys. Yeah, so it's it's interesting.

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 11>What about all those those mcs that you mentioned that

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:13.840
<v Speaker 11>you came up with Latin Quarter, Like, at what point

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 11>was everybody well receiving of your career or was anybody like,

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:19.399
<v Speaker 11>all right, let me come talk to you in a corner.

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:25.280
<v Speaker 10>You know, I have a few, like a few. Thank god.

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 10>I've been the same all my life. My character, everything

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 10>about me, I've never changed. So you have a few

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 10>people that have thrown off. You know, definitely a few

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 10>people have thrown off. But then they got used to

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 10>it because I think it came with the respect that

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:48.800
<v Speaker 10>I already had within my community, my street, my friends.

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:52.240
<v Speaker 10>It was just already there. You know, I really respect people.

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:57.160
<v Speaker 1>And something just hit me right now, like literally, when

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>she said that, something hit me.

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry it sounded like it. Wait a minute.

0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this about me, Heather,

0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:10.280
<v Speaker 1>but I am probably the third most knowledgeable person of anything.

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 10>Soul trained, Oh my god, so trained danced.

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe that was I was going to say, like,

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>even then, I didn't put two and two together that

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that was you.

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 10>Yeah. I wasn't porn at that time.

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I was going.

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 1>To say you were on you were a soul trained

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 1>dancer as Heather Hunter.

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 10>I snuck in on the line. I used my mother's name,

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 10>so I got online. They let me in. As soon

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 10>as I was on the floor. I guess because I

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 10>danced like I'm New York. They were like, oh my god.

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 10>And the Asian Grove the long hair, Yeah, she was

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 10>retiring and I had long hair, so they immediately threw

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 10>me up. So now I'm up on stage, I'm like, oh,

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:05.440
<v Speaker 10>this is this is great. My boy who had the cane?

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 10>I forgot It took like about five shows for I

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 10>was going to.

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Say, you were only on for seven episodes? Yeah, what happened?

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 10>Eric Cassim, who was the manager, who was the possession

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 10>that he knew after he realized, it's like, oh my god,

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 10>sat the Hunter, you know, and even Louis point to

0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 10>the cane. Oh my god, it's Hell the Hunter. So

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 10>they kind of hid me from from Don Cornelius for

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 10>a while and they threw me down. Eric kept throwing

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 10>me down the soul train line. Okay, let's gets you

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 10>down the soul train line. Let's get you down. We're

0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 10>gonna get all these down. And then out of nowhere,

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 10>someone contacted the Don Cornelius and say that you have

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:56.360
<v Speaker 10>a point started gyrating twirling down the line.

0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I bet Pam Brown it was Pam brownk.

0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 2>God was wow.

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 10>Don was like pulled me to the side. When I

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 10>came back next time, he could not. This is how

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 10>great this was because I would see Don at Stringfellows

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.080
<v Speaker 10>at the club in La So He's like, who is

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 10>this girl? How did she get into Stringfellas? I'm there

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:24.439
<v Speaker 10>with Marvin Gaye Jr. And all of them, and how

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 10>is she in here? You know? And then it clicked

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 10>and he found out who I was, and then he couldn't. Uh,

0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:34.600
<v Speaker 10>I got. I love Don for this because he didn't

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:37.760
<v Speaker 10>want to tell me that I couldn't be on the

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 10>show because he thought it was not right to do.

0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 10>You can't do that, you know what I mean? Yeah,

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 10>So I gave him a break and I did it

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.040
<v Speaker 10>for him, you know what I mean? Yeah, I gave

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:53.240
<v Speaker 10>him to it and then I used to and then

0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 10>I said, said, I get it. You know, I'm just

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 10>happy that I had experience to actually do this. And

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:02.720
<v Speaker 10>he was like, you cause still hanging come down and

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:05.240
<v Speaker 10>exactly why we do? I go and chill and I

1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 10>would hang out because I worked with Eric as well,

1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 10>and Don was just the coolest. And then by that time,

1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:17.160
<v Speaker 10>you know, friends, and I had to respect him because

1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:19.880
<v Speaker 10>you know, he couldn't do it, you know, he couldn't say, hey,

1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:21.919
<v Speaker 10>you can't be you know. So I was like, okay,

1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:23.320
<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna go. And then we did a porn on

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:32.040
<v Speaker 10>a movie called Get on a Real Soul Train. I

1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 10>love Vivid. We just said okay, come on, we're gonna

1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:36.040
<v Speaker 10>do a movie called Get on the Real Soul Train.

1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:39.000
<v Speaker 9>It was a train.

1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 10>It was me Peter North. Yeah, it was really good.

1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:44.680
<v Speaker 9>Was it a train involved?

1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:46.000
<v Speaker 10>No, It's like I.

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't think she means like.

1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:54.720
<v Speaker 9>Ah, I don't know that. Do you have do you

1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:55.919
<v Speaker 9>have an did you have a no list?

1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Heather?

1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:58.520
<v Speaker 9>Did you have like? Oh? Yeah, what I get break

1:00:58.520 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 9>it down?

1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:03.840
<v Speaker 10>My low list was not past three people. Okay, I think.

1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:08.200
<v Speaker 5>Three guys are just three girls and guys did the.

1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:10.640
<v Speaker 10>Three guy thing and I didn't. It was just too much.

1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:16.520
<v Speaker 10>I didn't do anal. I still don't do anal. You know.

1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:18.120
<v Speaker 2>That's like.

1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:25.880
<v Speaker 10>It's okay, you still under yeah, you know, just really

1:01:26.240 --> 1:01:26.920
<v Speaker 10>she wants to do it.

1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:30.600
<v Speaker 5>She can yeah, after her being when you were under

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.080
<v Speaker 5>contract for Vivid at that time, what was the stipulations?

1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:36.480
<v Speaker 5>Because I mean, could you dance on soul train or

1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:40.680
<v Speaker 5>could you do if someone do a movie like a

1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:43.080
<v Speaker 5>not a pornograph movie but like a regular movie.

1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:43.880
<v Speaker 10>No, I could do anything.

1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:44.320
<v Speaker 2>You could do that.

1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:46.160
<v Speaker 10>I was just an independent contract. Even though I was

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:49.680
<v Speaker 10>on a contract with them. You're understand, just six movies

1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:52.960
<v Speaker 10>a year. We would bang out the six movies and

1:01:53.160 --> 1:01:55.760
<v Speaker 10>just one month, so the whole year, I'm pretty much

1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:56.600
<v Speaker 10>what I want to do.

1:01:57.360 --> 1:02:00.240
<v Speaker 5>And so for doing six movies in a year, that

1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:03.520
<v Speaker 5>was enough for you. You could survive off of that financially.

1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:06.720
<v Speaker 10>It was adding to the part of touring.

1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I was touring so okay.

1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:11.920
<v Speaker 2>And by touring, you was dancing in clubs and stuff.

1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, gotcha.

1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:14.680
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, the money is sweet. That was hard to give up,

1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:18.080
<v Speaker 10>you know. But now I make clean money. I call

1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:20.640
<v Speaker 10>it clean money. It's not clean and it I call

1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:23.720
<v Speaker 10>it non kinky money.

1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:31.880
<v Speaker 2>So when you announced your retirement, was I don't.

1:02:31.720 --> 1:02:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Know what was it taken seriously by the industry.

1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Is it always like you'll be back?

1:02:37.040 --> 1:02:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Because both of them cannot get out of the soundtrap

1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:45.040
<v Speaker 1>of of that industry for real?

1:02:45.280 --> 1:02:48.280
<v Speaker 10>No, I did it, Jasy, I No, I can't came back.

1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:50.560
<v Speaker 10>Yeah I did it, Jacy, But no one knew I

1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:56.000
<v Speaker 10>came back. Yeah, I came back, and I just privately

1:02:56.080 --> 1:03:00.160
<v Speaker 10>signed a contract with the Vivid and I gave them

1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:03.560
<v Speaker 10>I think four more movies, okay, and then I completely stopped.

1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:07.560
<v Speaker 10>So it seemed like it was part of the same

1:03:07.600 --> 1:03:09.400
<v Speaker 10>eraror when I was doing films. But I just really

1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:11.800
<v Speaker 10>came back into a couple of films and I was done.

1:03:12.080 --> 1:03:14.320
<v Speaker 2>What was it that made you get out? When you

1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:15.000
<v Speaker 2>got out?

1:03:16.720 --> 1:03:21.520
<v Speaker 10>I was done the HIV the Yeah, I was done. Yeah.

1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:25.040
<v Speaker 10>I didn't want to catch anything I couldn't get rid

1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:25.400
<v Speaker 10>of like.

1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:26.280
<v Speaker 2>That, you know what I mean?

1:03:26.360 --> 1:03:27.480
<v Speaker 10>Or die, you know?

1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:29.640
<v Speaker 5>And then when you made the comeback, what was it

1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:31.560
<v Speaker 5>that shifted when you came back to that brief time?

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<v Speaker 10>I came back for money, honestly. Yeah. I came back

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<v Speaker 10>because I had a purpose. I wanted, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 10>certain things. I was buying a house, and that's why

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<v Speaker 10>I came back. Is when I came back is when

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<v Speaker 10>Tupac passed away. Tupac told me to come back. After

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<v Speaker 10>I did how do you Want It video, he convinced

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<v Speaker 10>me to move back to LA and a couple of

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<v Speaker 10>months after that he passed away. So I was in

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<v Speaker 10>LA and I was just like, okay, let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what was now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the time when I started to visit l A,

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<v Speaker 1>and l A was a hot territory as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the height of death Row.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, I mean, if you survived the tunnel, I'm pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure that there's no place that you're afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>You can handle death Row if you can survive the tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean the environment was still hot out there

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<v Speaker 1>as far as tension and where hip hop was at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and beef and all that stuff. How I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it like for you to see him pass away?

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<v Speaker 1>And I knew that you two were good friends. So

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<v Speaker 1>now that the Tupac film is out, like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>your feelings about his legacy and what he bent as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the industry is concerned.

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<v Speaker 10>Asle that's a lot of layers. I think, Oh, man,

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<v Speaker 10>this is when I Tupac always kind of like I

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<v Speaker 10>get great. You know. Oh it's unfortunate because when I

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<v Speaker 10>met Tupac, I met him in New York City, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>And just like any hip hop artists that I've known

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<v Speaker 10>that have been dear to me by the blessings of

1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:34.960
<v Speaker 10>like I swear as like angels, there's always like someone

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<v Speaker 10>looking out for me in any area that something's about

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<v Speaker 10>to pop off, you know, And the time that I

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<v Speaker 10>spend with Pac, I never saw him an environment of

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<v Speaker 10>hostile like you know, I never saw anything violent or

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<v Speaker 10>you know, So to see that world when he was

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<v Speaker 10>not around me, it was like I saw a man

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<v Speaker 10>that very misunderstudent in a sense, because you really people

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<v Speaker 10>don't really know him, you know what I mean. There

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<v Speaker 10>was so many layers, so he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was humanized to you, yeah, human dimensional to you.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah. And even the Yeah, A lot of things are

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<v Speaker 10>touching for me, even this movie. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 10>it's a beautiful thing that they did of Tupac film. Uh,

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<v Speaker 10>but I don't. I think it's too close to home

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<v Speaker 10>for me, you know what I mean that I don't,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't, you know, it'll take me a second to

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<v Speaker 10>watch that film. You know, if you think about the

1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:43.920
<v Speaker 10>West Coast and East Coast beef all those years was

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<v Speaker 10>complete stupidity, honestly, And to be part of that history

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<v Speaker 10>and know that I have full range to go wherever

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<v Speaker 10>I want, you know, and to see how the East

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<v Speaker 10>was talking about the West and the West was talking

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<v Speaker 10>about the East, and I you know, it's like it

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<v Speaker 10>wasn't about where you were from. It was just like,

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<v Speaker 10>why is this conflict? You know, it's just it made

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<v Speaker 10>no sense because even when Biggie passed away, Biggie was

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<v Speaker 10>in La looking to find property. He was really thinking

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<v Speaker 10>about staying there, you know, at least getting a piece

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<v Speaker 10>of property there, you know. And it's sad that this conflict,

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<v Speaker 10>that what's going on, which to me is like guys fighting,

1:07:38.800 --> 1:07:42.080
<v Speaker 10>little boys fighting in the playground in sand. You know.

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<v Speaker 10>It was ridiculous. And to see Tupac pulled from the

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<v Speaker 10>west to the side of his east history and then

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<v Speaker 10>from the west and have to you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>find his way through that, and to see both of

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<v Speaker 10>them pass away, it's just na.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just where your friends were Big as well,

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<v Speaker 2>were y'all cool?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Me and Big later down the line we became friends,

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<v Speaker 10>you know. Yeah, I'm very after that video, I said,

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<v Speaker 10>after the video, like after the park video, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost too close to BIG's death.

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<v Speaker 10>So but it's just sad, you know, I you know,

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<v Speaker 10>to see hip hop now and just to see people

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<v Speaker 10>not really acknowledging history, and at least to me.

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<v Speaker 2>There's generations culture.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know, I really wish that we could turn

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<v Speaker 10>back time, but it's impossible, you know, So we just

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<v Speaker 10>got to learn from here and try to educate as

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<v Speaker 10>even if they don't want to hear it, you got

1:08:48.920 --> 1:08:50.599
<v Speaker 10>to push it down and force it down their throat,

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<v Speaker 10>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, are you indifferent to what hip hop

1:08:54.360 --> 1:08:59.920
<v Speaker 1>culture is now? And do any of hip hop's current

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<v Speaker 1>luminaries do they acknowledge you and your your existence?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it like what's the environment like for you now?

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<v Speaker 10>Is it just like, you know, well, I'll always be

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<v Speaker 10>hip hop you know inside me?

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<v Speaker 2>Ho today?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, what they call hip hop today? I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>you have some good stuff. I think back in the

1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:26.600
<v Speaker 10>day you had more. Everything about hip hop was wonderful,

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<v Speaker 10>you know. So now it's like certain people I like

1:09:29.520 --> 1:09:32.640
<v Speaker 10>certain people I don't pay attention to. I listened to

1:09:32.640 --> 1:09:36.719
<v Speaker 10>a lot of old school stuff. I love Kendrick Lamar.

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<v Speaker 10>I think he's cool. You know it is there's a

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<v Speaker 10>there's really not anybody moving in the unless I hear

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<v Speaker 10>a song you know that goes, hey, this is who

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<v Speaker 10>is that?

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<v Speaker 9>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not on your app every five seconds?

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<v Speaker 10>Like let me get I'm a prince head, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I really love that.

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<v Speaker 10>So the truth And I like music honestly. I like

1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:05.400
<v Speaker 10>music that makes you take your clothes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends, Why the book is name Insatiable?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it is one of the and there's a character

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<v Speaker 10>in the book named Martha that yeah books. This is

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<v Speaker 10>actually my first, but I actually have a whole collective

1:10:22.680 --> 1:10:27.519
<v Speaker 10>series that coming out that I'm working with editor. Yeah, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Because it's interesting is you're writing these books, but then

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<v Speaker 11>I'm hearing your story when it in regards to hip

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<v Speaker 11>hop and it sounds like there's a lane there that

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<v Speaker 11>you can I mean as well as well as what

1:10:36.600 --> 1:10:38.559
<v Speaker 11>you're you're writing. But do you ever think about that,

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<v Speaker 11>like really going over your life story as far as

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<v Speaker 11>the hip hop lane and things?

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<v Speaker 10>But that's the book you really could read that. It's

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<v Speaker 10>like an urban Bookie Knights. It's Q, isn't it about?

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<v Speaker 2>All Right?

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<v Speaker 5>So speaking of BOOKI Knights, how I always now I

1:10:55.200 --> 1:10:57.760
<v Speaker 5>have to ask a formal point star to get how

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<v Speaker 5>authentic is that movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Or like how true to life is it?

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<v Speaker 10>That movie was touching? Yeah, you know what I like

1:11:06.439 --> 1:11:11.240
<v Speaker 10>about that movie show that the dark versus always glorifying things,

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<v Speaker 10>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, do you think we glorify it too much as

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<v Speaker 2>a society?

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<v Speaker 10>Now? Yeah, to the point that ten year old girls

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<v Speaker 10>are ready to be a porn stars and they don't

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<v Speaker 10>understand that. It's like they're not even born to be that,

1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:30.160
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean. It's like we're forcing it

1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:33.840
<v Speaker 10>on them. And that's where I kind of I'm really

1:11:33.840 --> 1:11:37.000
<v Speaker 10>about anything that's adult. I like it in an underworld.

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<v Speaker 10>I like where we were at. You know, so you're segregated.

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<v Speaker 11>You're not for these apps like the porn hubs, the

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<v Speaker 11>back to get off.

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<v Speaker 9>Though you said you're trying to get off.

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<v Speaker 10>That the only one I'm trying to get off though,

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<v Speaker 10>I'll go to my together.

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<v Speaker 9>I think you're on some of those though. You know that, right,

1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:55.559
<v Speaker 9>you get your money?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you watch yourself?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

1:11:58.760 --> 1:12:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But do you watch with the critique?

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<v Speaker 10>Like crazy? Even me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So what is like? So? What is to you?

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<v Speaker 5>What are staples of bad pornography? Like something that the

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<v Speaker 5>average viewer would never even know?

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<v Speaker 10>When a girl looks in the camera. I hate that? Okay,

1:12:15.600 --> 1:12:17.880
<v Speaker 10>Oh that bothers me. You know. It's like, if you're

1:12:17.880 --> 1:12:20.000
<v Speaker 10>gonna look in the camera and you look at me

1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:21.639
<v Speaker 10>while you do say my name, and if you can't

1:12:21.680 --> 1:12:25.320
<v Speaker 10>do that, then don't do it. I don't like when

1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:29.599
<v Speaker 10>you're watching a video you know, I don't. I don't

1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:31.400
<v Speaker 10>like when the girls look like they bored, like they

1:12:31.520 --> 1:12:34.559
<v Speaker 10>look like they're thinking about shopping while the guy is

1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:35.200
<v Speaker 10>fucking them.

1:12:36.439 --> 1:12:39.320
<v Speaker 2>See now you would, you would critique it like we

1:12:39.439 --> 1:12:40.240
<v Speaker 2>critique music.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's mhm where you know, like someone's phoning it

1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:46.040
<v Speaker 1>in from home, or they could have did that verse

1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:49.680
<v Speaker 1>better or that sort of thing, right, someone can you

1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:52.320
<v Speaker 1>tell them what to look for to know that someone's

1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:54.200
<v Speaker 1>not into it or they're not into it.

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<v Speaker 10>Or shows you yeah, because it shows that you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Some game, Like how what are some of the tales

1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:03.200
<v Speaker 5>we can see? Okay, she's bullshit and then well she's real,

1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:04.479
<v Speaker 5>like she's really enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 10>Pussy has to be wet.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, you can't even real quick And.

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<v Speaker 10>Just nowadays, I know thise porn and we've been watching porn,

1:13:16.600 --> 1:13:19.760
<v Speaker 10>right baby, watching poor lately. Yeah, we've just been watching

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of porn.

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<v Speaker 2>Porn.

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<v Speaker 10>Even with the porn, it's like some of the they

1:13:23.360 --> 1:13:25.360
<v Speaker 10>don't do that anymore. It seems like nobody's losing lub.

1:13:26.160 --> 1:13:28.120
<v Speaker 10>So back in the days, we used to lose a

1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:29.680
<v Speaker 10>lot of loop. But they're not doing it.

1:13:29.720 --> 1:13:30.800
<v Speaker 9>How do you know they're not doing it?

1:13:30.880 --> 1:13:33.040
<v Speaker 10>Though, because I'm watching I've been watching it lately and

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<v Speaker 10>I go, Okay, what.

1:13:34.120 --> 1:13:34.599
<v Speaker 2>It looks like?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, because I'm like, can they just pause tape.

1:13:37.040 --> 1:13:37.559
<v Speaker 2>And then edit?

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<v Speaker 11>You know, there's no pause and tape?

1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:42.519
<v Speaker 10>Okay, Nay.

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<v Speaker 8>How do you feel about the rise of amateur porn

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<v Speaker 8>like people just you know, making homemade porn and putting

1:13:50.000 --> 1:13:50.400
<v Speaker 8>it out there.

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<v Speaker 10>That's the point that, honestly, I feel it's dangerous really

1:13:53.479 --> 1:13:56.680
<v Speaker 10>just because you stop being regulated health wise, you know.

1:13:57.120 --> 1:13:59.479
<v Speaker 10>And that's where I say it's just out of hand

1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:03.920
<v Speaker 10>now because us you got Mom and Popper companies opening

1:14:04.000 --> 1:14:05.720
<v Speaker 10>up and no one's really.

1:14:07.040 --> 1:14:10.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, your iPhone is a port, yeah going.

1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:13.080
<v Speaker 10>Hey, we should these people should be tested and stopp

1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:17.800
<v Speaker 10>being it's enforced. It's not happening, you know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Housewives parties, Yeah, yeah, that's this whole category.

1:14:21.920 --> 1:14:22.679
<v Speaker 9>It's kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>When you talked about some of like the darker size

1:14:24.920 --> 1:14:27.840
<v Speaker 5>of it, like the Boogie Knights address what were some

1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:33.960
<v Speaker 5>dark parts for you?

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<v Speaker 10>No, you know, it's it's too it's too too dark.

1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:49.639
<v Speaker 10>It's not about dark, it's just too personal. But put

1:14:49.640 --> 1:14:51.960
<v Speaker 10>it like this. I was on the set and something

1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:57.640
<v Speaker 10>happened and I really didn't understand why no one was

1:14:57.680 --> 1:15:01.000
<v Speaker 10>so sensitive about it, you know, and I got really

1:15:01.120 --> 1:15:02.720
<v Speaker 10>upset and I kind of flipped out.

1:15:02.760 --> 1:15:05.280
<v Speaker 5>Something happened to you, or something happened just to someone else,

1:15:05.360 --> 1:15:08.000
<v Speaker 5>or just one something happened to me, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Is okay? Well out of the ass? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I assume that this is more of a cultural understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>because again I don't know.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, let's let's be real. I'm gonna be real with you.

1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:23.040
<v Speaker 10>Could I say it enough? Wait? Does to sound stinky?

1:15:25.439 --> 1:15:29.479
<v Speaker 10>I was on set, you know, and I caught my

1:15:29.560 --> 1:15:33.160
<v Speaker 10>menstoration on set. Oh and it was a woman director

1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:38.960
<v Speaker 10>and they want to continue doing the scene. Huh. And

1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:41.720
<v Speaker 10>I'm looking at her like, what is wrong with you?

1:15:42.200 --> 1:15:44.519
<v Speaker 10>Like everybody looking at me like I'm crazy. I'm like,

1:15:45.720 --> 1:15:49.439
<v Speaker 10>I'm bleeding. Is what's wrong with y'all? And I'm looking

1:15:49.439 --> 1:15:51.760
<v Speaker 10>at all these people like, oh, it's nothing. I'm like,

1:15:52.040 --> 1:15:56.280
<v Speaker 10>something wrong with y'all? People, Clearly something is wrong with y'all.

1:15:56.320 --> 1:15:59.920
<v Speaker 10>And she didn't. From woman to woman, I thought she

1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:02.759
<v Speaker 10>would be a little bit more sensitive and a little

1:16:02.760 --> 1:16:04.800
<v Speaker 10>bit more empathy. And I had to.

1:16:04.760 --> 1:16:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Flip on her getting the shot and it.

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<v Speaker 10>Was really really you know, and then I was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 10>this is really nasty. This is that. But it was

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<v Speaker 10>like little things that would build up to go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 10>this is not for me anymore. I'm really kind of

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<v Speaker 10>I'm I'm taking things too personal now when this is

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<v Speaker 10>a professional business.

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<v Speaker 5>You feel me when you got when you got out,

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<v Speaker 5>and you were saying earlier that you know, when you

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<v Speaker 5>were in porn, you only dated porn stars. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>then when you got out, what was dating?

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<v Speaker 10>Like, woo, immediately I got married. Someone scooped me up

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<v Speaker 10>and married me.

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<v Speaker 2>Got So, how long you guys got married?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, immediately after I got up poorn, I think. I Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I dated him for six months and I was married. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and this is your I mean no, that was

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<v Speaker 5>a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 10>I was like, I was twenty one. I was twenty one,

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<v Speaker 10>so I was only married for a year. Yeah, great, guys,

1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:02.639
<v Speaker 10>but you were tired. Didn't know what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, great man, a credible person. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 10>best friends to this day. But I was just too young,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, I just got a porn I've never really

1:17:12.120 --> 1:17:15.439
<v Speaker 10>had a real relationship before, so I was really and

1:17:15.479 --> 1:17:18.479
<v Speaker 10>he was such a good person, a wonderful person. So

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<v Speaker 10>you know, I just things happened too quickly, and I

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<v Speaker 10>had to really understand the difference between relationships and not

1:17:28.600 --> 1:17:33.880
<v Speaker 10>being not in a relationship, you know, physically, if I

1:17:33.920 --> 1:17:37.479
<v Speaker 10>was learning my way through relationships, because all I was

1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:40.240
<v Speaker 10>doing before was just performing and having sex. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>So then once you guys got divorced and you went,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess you started dating again.

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<v Speaker 10>I started dating. What it was like getting on a

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<v Speaker 10>bike and learning how to ride and falling off a

1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:55.240
<v Speaker 10>couple of times, you know, until you got it right.

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<v Speaker 10>And you know, I think I think even now, I'm

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<v Speaker 10>forty seven years old, and I got it right nine

1:18:02.479 --> 1:18:05.320
<v Speaker 10>years ago, you know, with my man now, and I

1:18:05.360 --> 1:18:09.400
<v Speaker 10>finally could truly say that, you know, I'm really in

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<v Speaker 10>love and I know the difference between love and lust.

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<v Speaker 10>You guys, I hunted him down, I found him. I

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<v Speaker 10>found him online.

1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:24.080
<v Speaker 9>But it does work good. I'm doing that now, so

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<v Speaker 9>that's good to know. Yeah, it's all right. You have

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<v Speaker 9>friends in the room, because.

1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:32.280
<v Speaker 2>It is not really the thing anywhere.

1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:38.800
<v Speaker 10>Around its impressed with his talent. So that's how we met.

1:18:38.920 --> 1:18:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I pressed with his talent.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't just leave that out there like that.

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<v Speaker 10>You gotous.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he you work industry as well?

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<v Speaker 10>Sleep online?

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<v Speaker 9>It was amazing, it was sponte.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's first one in anyway.

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<v Speaker 10>I couldn't like to stroke.

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<v Speaker 2>Uestion. I thought it might be a DJ.

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<v Speaker 8>You mentioned that in your You mentioned a minute ago

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<v Speaker 8>about working with a bad experience working with a woman director.

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<v Speaker 8>How many is it common to see women working behind

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<v Speaker 8>the camera or not behind the camera, behind just behind

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<v Speaker 8>the scenes in general and porn like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very rare, very rare.

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<v Speaker 10>Back then it was very rare. Now, yeah, there's a

1:19:30.400 --> 1:19:32.840
<v Speaker 10>lot of women that are behind the camera. But back then,

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<v Speaker 10>that's why I was thrown off.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm like, yo, was that a woman of color? Did

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<v Speaker 9>you went through that way? I was curious?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, Well, after your you're standing in the.

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<v Speaker 10>Industry, criologized afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, well all's well and as well. So after

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<v Speaker 1>your run you signed the.

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<v Speaker 10>Tommy Boy Records? Yeah Island Records than Tommy Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay, yeah, so what Yeah, at that point where

1:20:01.880 --> 1:20:04.519
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to figure out, like, okay, what am I

1:20:04.640 --> 1:20:06.040
<v Speaker 1>going to do for the rest of my life? Were

1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:10.639
<v Speaker 1>pursuing pursuing pursuing passions or like what are your passions.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just just.

1:20:11.920 --> 1:20:13.240
<v Speaker 2>What are you passionate about now?

1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Like what is your well I know that you're deep

1:20:15.160 --> 1:20:19.920
<v Speaker 1>into art photography, and like what are your passions now

1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're you're pursuing now your bucket lists.

1:20:22.520 --> 1:20:26.799
<v Speaker 10>My books, you know, writing my photography books. I love shooting,

1:20:26.960 --> 1:20:31.920
<v Speaker 10>so I have the photography business at my studio, and

1:20:33.360 --> 1:20:35.800
<v Speaker 10>my documentary is important right now, I'm about to do

1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:38.040
<v Speaker 10>my documentary and then the book that you're in that

1:20:38.080 --> 1:20:40.639
<v Speaker 10>I have called The Unforgettable, I'm still working on that.

1:20:40.840 --> 1:20:44.040
<v Speaker 10>So I'm closing out a lot of products right now and.

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<v Speaker 9>The documentary of my life.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I'm ready to talk now. I'm actually really expressed

1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:51.840
<v Speaker 10>with I'm very private person.

1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:54.040
<v Speaker 2>And you're directing it yourself.

1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:58.320
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's kind of weird. Well, usually I'm having someone

1:20:58.360 --> 1:20:59.479
<v Speaker 10>produce it, but I'm okay.

1:20:59.479 --> 1:21:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I was going to saying, like just to have another

1:21:03.439 --> 1:21:03.880
<v Speaker 2>voice in.

1:21:03.800 --> 1:21:07.760
<v Speaker 10>The room, and I'm having somebody produce it. Yeah, but

1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:09.920
<v Speaker 10>I'm putting it out as my own production. You know,

1:21:10.400 --> 1:21:13.599
<v Speaker 10>I told myself and I said it not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 10>If I'm going to sell my soul again, I want

1:21:15.840 --> 1:21:16.879
<v Speaker 10>to sell it to myself.

1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:20.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, you felt like you said, your soul doing poor.

1:21:20.840 --> 1:21:26.479
<v Speaker 10>You sell yourself every day for any you know.

1:21:26.960 --> 1:21:30.679
<v Speaker 1>I sold my quest Yeah, and I sold my soda Pandora.

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<v Speaker 9>My soul is not for sale.

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<v Speaker 2>Transfer her now let me know in the next Luminati meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Send me a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>When when do you when do you plan on wrapping it?

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<v Speaker 1>And what would the story arc be of your documentary?

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<v Speaker 10>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And how much will you reveal to us in this

1:21:59.400 --> 1:22:00.800
<v Speaker 1>documentary of your life?

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<v Speaker 10>A lot? Okay, especially for someone who doesn't talk, so

1:22:05.920 --> 1:22:10.320
<v Speaker 10>you know, you're not I have an idea's a lot of.

1:22:10.360 --> 1:22:14.160
<v Speaker 2>So you're doing me a solid right now, or she's

1:22:14.200 --> 1:22:14.759
<v Speaker 2>just not saying.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I don't even do that many interviews you know anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 10>No. I feel whenever I feel comfortable and it's a

1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:26.120
<v Speaker 10>vibe I do those type of interviews, I feel it,

1:22:26.560 --> 1:22:31.760
<v Speaker 10>and I yeah, there's so much about me, you know,

1:22:32.840 --> 1:22:37.120
<v Speaker 10>I hold so much inside me of so many people's lives,

1:22:37.120 --> 1:22:39.840
<v Speaker 10>even my own, you know. But and it's so much

1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:42.160
<v Speaker 10>respect that I have for people. But then there's there's

1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.360
<v Speaker 10>things that I can share and I could talk about

1:22:44.840 --> 1:22:48.960
<v Speaker 10>experiences I know that can help somebody else, someone can

1:22:49.000 --> 1:22:52.719
<v Speaker 10>relate to, you know, and just so I could really

1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:55.640
<v Speaker 10>get tired of people asking me about Tupac, you know,

1:22:56.240 --> 1:22:57.920
<v Speaker 10>so I could really kind of touch a little bit

1:22:57.960 --> 1:23:00.759
<v Speaker 10>closer on how I feel and just things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, did you have any children?

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<v Speaker 10>I have a step son right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, anything uh like you that you I.

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<v Speaker 11>Don't think it would be I have other questions, but

1:23:14.400 --> 1:23:15.480
<v Speaker 11>I don't think it'd be appropriate.

1:23:15.680 --> 1:23:17.040
<v Speaker 10>I just asked the question.

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<v Speaker 2>She's self policed in himself. That's that's I am.

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<v Speaker 11>Because also I'll respect the fact that you've moved on

1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:25.719
<v Speaker 11>and you've been retired for twenty years.

1:23:25.920 --> 1:23:29.040
<v Speaker 10>Talk about so we can talk about like, h okay,

1:23:29.120 --> 1:23:29.519
<v Speaker 10>let's fun.

1:23:29.600 --> 1:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's y'all gonna have to exchange numbers.

1:23:37.120 --> 1:23:37.600
<v Speaker 10>We keep it on.

1:23:37.640 --> 1:23:41.880
<v Speaker 11>Blow listening to this is not listening to this episode

1:23:41.880 --> 1:23:44.479
<v Speaker 11>with Jackie turned it off real quick, jack or Miss

1:23:44.560 --> 1:23:46.160
<v Speaker 11>Jackie keeping on with tail the mirror that you turn

1:23:46.160 --> 1:23:46.400
<v Speaker 11>it off.

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<v Speaker 9>I wanted to well, I was going to ask you

1:23:50.600 --> 1:23:52.519
<v Speaker 9>about the evolution because you talked about blow jobs.

1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:56.679
<v Speaker 11>Oh my god, I just and so I just wanted

1:23:56.720 --> 1:24:02.600
<v Speaker 11>to know. I want to get advice first, and it

1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:05.679
<v Speaker 11>was interesting to me in the evolution of the blow job, right,

1:24:05.760 --> 1:24:09.439
<v Speaker 11>I know, Superhead and she who Superhead was a big thing.

1:24:09.520 --> 1:24:11.040
<v Speaker 9>I don't know if you remember, but the two handed

1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:12.719
<v Speaker 9>thing or whatever. I just wanted to talk about that.

1:24:13.200 --> 1:24:15.560
<v Speaker 5>Talk about I always thought she should have been superhands

1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:16.519
<v Speaker 5>rather Superhead.

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<v Speaker 9>And how did you feel about that?

1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:19.439
<v Speaker 11>Because she had she did use both hands, but she

1:24:19.560 --> 1:24:21.280
<v Speaker 11>was called superhead, you know what I mean.

1:24:21.320 --> 1:24:21.960
<v Speaker 9>I don't know if you ever.

1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:23.960
<v Speaker 10>You know, I actually never watched her.

1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I think when she left it it's like she

1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:28.639
<v Speaker 2>says she's.

1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:30.040
<v Speaker 9>Been watching porn the whole time.

1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:33.280
<v Speaker 10>I just, you know, to me, Superhead wasn't poorn. You know.

1:24:33.840 --> 1:24:36.599
<v Speaker 10>She was just a girl who just gave head. So

1:24:37.200 --> 1:24:39.559
<v Speaker 10>I didn't really look at her as a pornal stuff.

1:24:39.680 --> 1:24:42.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, do you have any new girls that you like?

1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:44.760
<v Speaker 5>A new guys or girls that you like?

1:24:44.960 --> 1:24:47.599
<v Speaker 10>I like Missy Stone, Okay, I really like her because

1:24:47.680 --> 1:24:49.320
<v Speaker 10>I like when a girl is just bouncing and having

1:24:49.360 --> 1:24:51.479
<v Speaker 10>a good time and just like she's enjoying that dick.

1:24:52.920 --> 1:24:57.200
<v Speaker 11>You know, she's gonna ask you like favorite position situation

1:24:57.280 --> 1:24:58.280
<v Speaker 11>that you like to watch?

1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:03.200
<v Speaker 10>Yeah? I like dog. Okay, even now with the you

1:25:03.240 --> 1:25:05.920
<v Speaker 10>were talking about the double hands, Yeah, but even this

1:25:06.080 --> 1:25:09.080
<v Speaker 10>way is even double hand. It's just that's so traditional

1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:12.000
<v Speaker 10>That's why it throwed me off that that was like

1:25:12.040 --> 1:25:14.760
<v Speaker 10>a big you know, what is non traditional?

1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Heather?

1:25:15.800 --> 1:25:19.719
<v Speaker 10>What is non traditional? If it was not non traditional,

1:25:19.760 --> 1:25:22.320
<v Speaker 10>it's just a regular stroke. But to me, that's well,

1:25:22.400 --> 1:25:26.280
<v Speaker 10>I guess I don't know. It's just for me. Is

1:25:26.280 --> 1:25:26.960
<v Speaker 10>about suction.

1:25:27.280 --> 1:25:27.719
<v Speaker 9>Okay.

1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:30.920
<v Speaker 10>It's like if a woman could really create her mouth

1:25:30.960 --> 1:25:34.240
<v Speaker 10>as a penis pump, then she's learned her technique.

1:25:36.960 --> 1:25:38.160
<v Speaker 9>I'm sorry I had to take that in.

1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:41.400
<v Speaker 10>Okay, think about it, Winds.

1:25:42.000 --> 1:25:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Think about.

1:25:45.560 --> 1:25:46.360
<v Speaker 9>Here's another question.

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<v Speaker 11>Is there something that you because this is man, I

1:25:48.520 --> 1:25:50.360
<v Speaker 11>wish you could really just advise and write a book

1:25:50.360 --> 1:25:52.320
<v Speaker 11>on the list of things. Is there something for the

1:25:52.320 --> 1:25:55.200
<v Speaker 11>blow job outside of your own natural hands, mouth.

1:25:55.120 --> 1:25:57.799
<v Speaker 9>Or whatever that you would advise to help get results?

1:25:58.160 --> 1:26:01.120
<v Speaker 11>You know some people Okay, I know this might sound antiquated,

1:26:01.360 --> 1:26:03.639
<v Speaker 11>you know, but I'm gonna go Altoyd, I'm gonna go Ice,

1:26:03.680 --> 1:26:05.160
<v Speaker 11>I'm gonna go you know.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know about.

1:26:14.160 --> 1:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>That was Bill.

1:26:14.840 --> 1:26:17.640
<v Speaker 9>I didn say pop rocks.

1:26:18.000 --> 1:26:21.680
<v Speaker 11>This is we're on the blow jack. I need to

1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:24.240
<v Speaker 11>put Is that a crazy question? How that that was crazy?

1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:31.439
<v Speaker 9>I should I said, so, so what do you use other? Yes,

1:26:31.640 --> 1:26:34.080
<v Speaker 9>there are there other things that you can advise to help.

1:26:33.920 --> 1:26:35.439
<v Speaker 2>With the America requards.

1:26:42.360 --> 1:26:44.760
<v Speaker 9>No tong row.

1:26:45.600 --> 1:26:48.080
<v Speaker 10>He she has me stuck. I feel like I have

1:26:48.080 --> 1:26:49.040
<v Speaker 10>one in my mouth right now.

1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:53.240
<v Speaker 11>Tongue roll, because I learned that the tongue ring, the

1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:55.560
<v Speaker 11>tongue ring is not a guarantee when this is what

1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:57.000
<v Speaker 11>I had one in college.

1:26:57.040 --> 1:26:58.639
<v Speaker 9>That's really more of a male, a.

1:26:58.600 --> 1:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Male, goddamn tongue.

1:27:00.600 --> 1:27:06.320
<v Speaker 9>You wasn't looking in my mouth. No, I had it

1:27:06.360 --> 1:27:08.760
<v Speaker 9>for like two years.

1:27:08.800 --> 1:27:11.080
<v Speaker 10>But I mean, it's not for wolves, Okay, I don't

1:27:11.120 --> 1:27:15.800
<v Speaker 10>even think it's about what you use. I pouring Loube

1:27:15.840 --> 1:27:20.360
<v Speaker 10>in your mouth is a great thing, but I really

1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:26.479
<v Speaker 10>think it's very important to think of your mouth as

1:27:26.520 --> 1:27:31.760
<v Speaker 10>your vagina. Thank you. And if you can't master that,

1:27:32.720 --> 1:27:35.640
<v Speaker 10>then you're giving the best head possible, you know. And

1:27:35.680 --> 1:27:37.280
<v Speaker 10>I have to go back to being a good girl

1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:40.320
<v Speaker 10>now because my man is in here and you know.

1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:41.960
<v Speaker 9>Trying to figure how I'm trying to figureut how to

1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:46.000
<v Speaker 9>make my mouth? How do you make your mouth?

1:27:46.080 --> 1:27:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Keegel. Look, I'm taking over right now. I'm taking over

1:27:52.920 --> 1:27:54.320
<v Speaker 2>my own.

1:27:56.200 --> 1:28:01.920
<v Speaker 8>I have a question. It is actually kind of warming

1:28:01.960 --> 1:28:05.200
<v Speaker 8>here right now. We briefly touched on on your music career,

1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:07.519
<v Speaker 8>and I think we should get back to that. Your

1:28:07.560 --> 1:28:09.479
<v Speaker 8>first releases were house music.

1:28:09.280 --> 1:28:10.160
<v Speaker 10>Right, house music.

1:28:10.439 --> 1:28:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Why didn't you start out with a hip hip hop? Yeah?

1:28:14.280 --> 1:28:16.479
<v Speaker 10>At that time, I was really passionate in house because

1:28:16.520 --> 1:28:20.000
<v Speaker 10>I was hanging out most of the house clubs and yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I was performing. And then Cookie Gonzalez came in saw

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<v Speaker 10>my performance at Red Zone, and then I got a

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<v Speaker 10>record deal and then we figured this. At that time,

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<v Speaker 10>house music was big, you know, dance music, and I

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<v Speaker 10>did really good with that track, hit the Billboard charts

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<v Speaker 10>with that one. And where I left Ireland after I toured,

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<v Speaker 10>I went to Tommy War Records, and that's where they

1:28:44.640 --> 1:28:46.880
<v Speaker 10>messed up at me because they were trying to turn

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<v Speaker 10>me into like Mary J. Blige and I really wasn't

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<v Speaker 10>that and they really should have had me do hip

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<v Speaker 10>hop at that time. And I got put on the

1:28:53.120 --> 1:28:55.800
<v Speaker 10>shelf and they gave me all the rights to my

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<v Speaker 10>music and I left Tommy Boy and then I decided

1:28:59.000 --> 1:29:02.679
<v Speaker 10>to put out my own album because me and Nelly,

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<v Speaker 10>actually Nelly taught me how to rhyme, and me and

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<v Speaker 10>him was on tour before me putting out the album

1:29:09.880 --> 1:29:12.600
<v Speaker 10>for like a year. He's doing put it in the

1:29:12.640 --> 1:29:16.439
<v Speaker 10>mouth I'm rhyme into an m O P track and

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<v Speaker 10>that was our show and we had strippers and midgets.

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<v Speaker 10>It was on my and we toured year.

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<v Speaker 5>Was that was that before you did the Premo Joint?

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<v Speaker 5>Or was that was that that same album?

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<v Speaker 10>That was that was before and then wait joint?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I thought you said that, Like no, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you, like I did not know. Yeah, your website,

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<v Speaker 2>so I figured that you probably would have.

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<v Speaker 5>Seen you shot a video for that one, right you

1:29:46.920 --> 1:29:48.160
<v Speaker 5>guys we shot.

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<v Speaker 10>A video for the so Serious, So sincere I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In this industry wrapping.

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<v Speaker 10>It was called freak Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, prey bo I always teach them about and.

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<v Speaker 10>That's back to that's my boyfriend. Back at OQ, so

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<v Speaker 10>I had a lot of people, all my friends wore support.

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<v Speaker 10>They really want to see me do something different with

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<v Speaker 10>my life. So whenever I want to do something, everybody like,

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<v Speaker 10>come on, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dope.

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<v Speaker 10>So that's how I kind of have been very successful

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<v Speaker 10>as well in because I've gotten a lot of support

1:30:22.920 --> 1:30:28.720
<v Speaker 10>from a lot of my friends that are hip hop pioneers, artists.

1:30:29.080 --> 1:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Everything you know was mainstream film, something you ever wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 10>Or I did a couple. I just made sure I

1:30:35.760 --> 1:30:37.240
<v Speaker 10>was in ones that I really wanted to be in.

1:30:37.720 --> 1:30:39.040
<v Speaker 10>I did American gang stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But you didn't have any You didn't have no desire

1:30:42.280 --> 1:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>to be like you know the next.

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<v Speaker 5>No, okay, no, what advice would you give or pointers

1:30:47.760 --> 1:30:52.600
<v Speaker 5>would you give to any girl point stars now that

1:30:52.680 --> 1:30:55.679
<v Speaker 5>are looking to transition and get out the game, which

1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:57.679
<v Speaker 5>is something that you've seen have done really well.

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<v Speaker 10>But well, you have to give it up completely. You

1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:02.360
<v Speaker 10>can't do both. It's impossible. Because they were telling me that,

1:31:02.479 --> 1:31:05.040
<v Speaker 10>you know, I was trying, and then I got it.

1:31:05.200 --> 1:31:07.960
<v Speaker 10>I realized I said, Okay, maybe I have to stop

1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:12.840
<v Speaker 10>all the way completely to really be taken serious. But

1:31:12.880 --> 1:31:15.040
<v Speaker 10>then at the same time, I'm still expressing myself in

1:31:15.040 --> 1:31:17.960
<v Speaker 10>a you know, an erotic way and everything I do.

1:31:18.160 --> 1:31:21.200
<v Speaker 10>So you just gotta be real with yourself. It's just like,

1:31:21.360 --> 1:31:25.559
<v Speaker 10>and you gotta really I talked to many girls. They'd

1:31:25.560 --> 1:31:26.640
<v Speaker 10>be like, I want to do this, I want to

1:31:26.720 --> 1:31:29.439
<v Speaker 10>change my life, but the same day they still swinging

1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:31.840
<v Speaker 10>on the poll. They ain't going nowhere, you know. So

1:31:31.880 --> 1:31:34.200
<v Speaker 10>it's really something that you really want to change it.

1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:35.880
<v Speaker 10>You got to stick to it, and you've got to

1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:39.920
<v Speaker 10>really strip yourself from that money to learn how to

1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:42.920
<v Speaker 10>make a totally different type of kind of money. It's

1:31:42.920 --> 1:31:45.120
<v Speaker 10>a lot you really got to strip down. Because I

1:31:45.200 --> 1:31:49.960
<v Speaker 10>literally stripped down from the porn, from touring, stripping all that.

1:31:50.080 --> 1:31:51.280
<v Speaker 10>I had to give that up.

1:31:51.439 --> 1:31:55.000
<v Speaker 5>So when you stop, you stop everything walk away.

1:31:55.280 --> 1:31:57.800
<v Speaker 10>I had to stop because I knew there was nothing

1:31:57.800 --> 1:32:01.559
<v Speaker 10>going to change if I didn't. And then thank God,

1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:06.200
<v Speaker 10>you know, family friends, I just have a good support system.

1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:09.439
<v Speaker 10>You know, I'm good to people, so it's a blessing

1:32:09.479 --> 1:32:11.240
<v Speaker 10>that they're good to me. You know, it would be

1:32:11.280 --> 1:32:13.040
<v Speaker 10>dope to see you get back in the talk show game.

1:32:13.080 --> 1:32:14.680
<v Speaker 10>Do you ever think I'm gonna do a radio I'm

1:32:14.680 --> 1:32:24.080
<v Speaker 10>gonna do a podcast shows. Yeah, I'm thinking about doing

1:32:24.080 --> 1:32:24.639
<v Speaker 10>a podcast.

1:32:26.280 --> 1:32:26.479
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just I get up and I just thank God, blessing,

1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:33.519
<v Speaker 10>and I'm so appreciative that I can get up and

1:32:33.560 --> 1:32:35.120
<v Speaker 10>just be myself and figure out what I'm gonna do

1:32:35.160 --> 1:32:37.519
<v Speaker 10>the next day. You know, I'm at that point in

1:32:37.520 --> 1:32:41.439
<v Speaker 10>life where nothing really I think the old I've gotten

1:32:41.600 --> 1:32:45.320
<v Speaker 10>even just more success and just changed and I just

1:32:45.320 --> 1:32:48.040
<v Speaker 10>don't really sweat. I just kind of enjoy life because

1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:51.040
<v Speaker 10>you know, I'm learning as you lose people, it's a

1:32:51.080 --> 1:32:54.360
<v Speaker 10>lot of people dying. You know, you realize you just

1:32:54.360 --> 1:32:57.559
<v Speaker 10>gotta enjoy every minute. So whatever I'm gonna do, hopefully

1:32:57.560 --> 1:33:00.799
<v Speaker 10>people like it. They don't, I don't care because I'm happy,

1:33:01.000 --> 1:33:01.559
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean.

1:33:02.479 --> 1:33:06.439
<v Speaker 1>So just just maybe we might have our seventh member

1:33:06.479 --> 1:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>of the Team Supreme. Anyway, Hunter, I want to thank

1:33:13.120 --> 1:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you for everything.

1:33:15.560 --> 1:33:18.080
<v Speaker 10>Fun I enjoyed you. Can I just say something? When

1:33:18.080 --> 1:33:21.240
<v Speaker 10>I saw you at Brooklyn Ball, Yes, I thought it

1:33:21.240 --> 1:33:24.760
<v Speaker 10>was adorable because I was at my my security guy

1:33:25.280 --> 1:33:26.880
<v Speaker 10>and he was like, what are you doing? You're going

1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:28.679
<v Speaker 10>straight up the DJ boof what are you doing? I'm

1:33:28.720 --> 1:33:30.960
<v Speaker 10>going to say, hello, what are you doing? You're gonna

1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:32.600
<v Speaker 10>You're not gonna know you what are you gonna do?

1:33:36.000 --> 1:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:33:36.800 --> 1:33:41.800
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, pointed on him and at first he was like, what, oh,

1:33:44.160 --> 1:33:45.800
<v Speaker 10>you know what I mean? And I just you know,

1:33:45.840 --> 1:33:47.640
<v Speaker 10>I met you years ago. I don't know if you

1:33:47.640 --> 1:33:52.360
<v Speaker 10>remember with Scott and Philly when you were in the studio.

1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:55.440
<v Speaker 10>I forgot that Scott was Yeah.

1:33:55.479 --> 1:34:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I forgot Scott was in my group, damn.

1:34:03.000 --> 1:34:04.800
<v Speaker 10>So he's really good. That's why when he was like,

1:34:05.040 --> 1:34:07.280
<v Speaker 10>I know I know him from you know, so it's

1:34:07.360 --> 1:34:09.000
<v Speaker 10>really a pleasure. I'm glad you want to come over

1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:11.439
<v Speaker 10>here because this was fun and it's always going to

1:34:11.479 --> 1:34:14.000
<v Speaker 10>go talk about lack quarters. That's that was life.

1:34:14.200 --> 1:34:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you is there anything that you've learned

1:34:18.040 --> 1:34:18.760
<v Speaker 1>this episode?

1:34:19.160 --> 1:34:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Bill, I'm I learned like he's a closet freak. Yes,

1:34:27.280 --> 1:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's closet.

1:34:29.400 --> 1:34:37.400
<v Speaker 9>I want to I want just looking for a suitor.

1:34:39.160 --> 1:34:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh, all right, we're gonna find we got to have

1:34:41.800 --> 1:34:45.519
<v Speaker 1>a fine like and and and unpaid.

1:34:45.520 --> 1:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Bill.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh no, he's good, he's good, he's good, he's good. Damn.

1:34:54.640 --> 1:34:56.240
<v Speaker 5>I guess I've just learned. You know, you just kind

1:34:56.240 --> 1:34:59.840
<v Speaker 5>of you know, just hearing what the story. Uh, just

1:35:00.720 --> 1:35:02.599
<v Speaker 5>the thing about just listening to yourself and just kind

1:35:02.600 --> 1:35:05.080
<v Speaker 5>of knowing when it's time to walk away, like when

1:35:05.080 --> 1:35:07.639
<v Speaker 5>something just ain't if it's not feeding you no more,

1:35:07.840 --> 1:35:10.960
<v Speaker 5>and if it's not, you just feel like, nah, I'm

1:35:11.200 --> 1:35:14.160
<v Speaker 5>past this. And then also I guess giving yourself permission

1:35:14.640 --> 1:35:17.439
<v Speaker 5>to say that I can do something else. I think

1:35:17.439 --> 1:35:20.280
<v Speaker 5>it's a lot of people that you feel like, Okay, well,

1:35:20.280 --> 1:35:23.200
<v Speaker 5>if I'm known as this, then there's no way I'm

1:35:23.240 --> 1:35:25.519
<v Speaker 5>ever going to be known as something else. But it

1:35:25.560 --> 1:35:27.120
<v Speaker 5>really ain't got nothing to do with other people. It

1:35:27.120 --> 1:35:30.200
<v Speaker 5>really is about you giving yourself that permission to say, nah,

1:35:30.200 --> 1:35:31.040
<v Speaker 5>I can do what I.

1:35:31.000 --> 1:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Want to do, you know what I mean? So now

1:35:33.160 --> 1:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>that's it really is.

1:35:34.600 --> 1:35:36.439
<v Speaker 10>And you know how crazy this world is now, So

1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:38.439
<v Speaker 10>just gotta be proud of who you are. I'm proud

1:35:38.439 --> 1:35:39.759
<v Speaker 10>of every aspect of my am.

1:35:42.479 --> 1:35:43.439
<v Speaker 2>She's really a big Prince fan.

1:35:43.479 --> 1:35:46.760
<v Speaker 8>It's a chapter in this book called Erratic City.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm a huge fan.

1:35:48.840 --> 1:35:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you are? You ever get to meet him?

1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:59.000
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I'm saving that story. Yeah, that's going to my doc.

1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:01.439
<v Speaker 10>That's going to my document. Actually, do you like.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Dalmatian?

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<v Speaker 6>Steve, I'm sorry, yeah, no, I mean you're really lovely

1:36:12.720 --> 1:36:13.120
<v Speaker 6>and cool.

1:36:13.400 --> 1:36:13.760
<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

1:36:15.479 --> 1:36:17.960
<v Speaker 6>I found it interesting that the nicest person she met

1:36:18.000 --> 1:36:27.639
<v Speaker 6>in her life was named Goldberg. I learned that talking

1:36:27.640 --> 1:36:29.519
<v Speaker 6>about blow jobs with Lightdy in the room was as

1:36:29.520 --> 1:36:30.400
<v Speaker 6>disappointing as I.

1:36:30.320 --> 1:36:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Thought it was.

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<v Speaker 9>You could have added said something.

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<v Speaker 6>And I have one question. So if you're on forty three,

1:36:39.000 --> 1:36:43.000
<v Speaker 6>I was on twenty three. If I heard you were

1:36:43.000 --> 1:36:46.120
<v Speaker 6>having a party and I came up and heard the music,

1:36:46.160 --> 1:36:47.960
<v Speaker 6>I knocked on the door, would you have let me?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, okay, Ship.

1:36:50.920 --> 1:36:52.600
<v Speaker 10>Everybody was coming people come from the.

1:36:52.800 --> 1:36:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Floor except for Stephen.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, yeah, I have nothing raunchy.

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<v Speaker 11>I actually I learned a few things I was to say.

1:37:00.320 --> 1:37:02.840
<v Speaker 11>Number one, I learned that it's dope that if you

1:37:02.840 --> 1:37:05.360
<v Speaker 11>are a dope individual and you demand respect, you will

1:37:05.400 --> 1:37:07.479
<v Speaker 11>continue to get it. Because I just think that's amazing

1:37:07.479 --> 1:37:10.200
<v Speaker 11>that all those men, those mcs, no matter what you did,

1:37:10.240 --> 1:37:12.720
<v Speaker 11>respected what you did and respect who you were as

1:37:12.760 --> 1:37:15.559
<v Speaker 11>a person, also thought it was dope that you've done

1:37:15.600 --> 1:37:19.320
<v Speaker 11>like twenty thousand things. So I've learned that let's try

1:37:19.360 --> 1:37:20.760
<v Speaker 11>to do as much as we think that we can,

1:37:21.080 --> 1:37:22.920
<v Speaker 11>because you never know what you can and cannot do.

1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:26.479
<v Speaker 11>And she used my mother my mouth as a coochie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, should.

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<v Speaker 9>I should have known that?

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<v Speaker 6>Find it.

1:37:33.080 --> 1:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I've learned that we could never let light Year get

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<v Speaker 1>the last guy you.

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<v Speaker 2>Word on my shelf.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen on behalf of light yea who might

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<v Speaker 1>be back next.

1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Time or might not?

1:37:46.880 --> 1:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Or the twenty third floor who was Bossville fan Ciccolo,

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<v Speaker 1>Unveville and have the Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>This is quest Love, signing off. We will hopefully see

1:37:56.600 --> 1:37:57.120
<v Speaker 2>you on the next go.

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