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Speaker 1: Of Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This

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Speaker 1: classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to QLs Classic Episode forty two with a pioneering

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Speaker 3: adult actress and Heather Hunter of July twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: What can I say? The name holds holly for certain generations.

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Speaker 3: Heather Hunter shares a story from life working as a

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Speaker 3: co check girl in the fabled legendary Latin Quarter nightclub,

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Speaker 3: to blazing trails in Hollywood and the world of porn.

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Speaker 3: As the first black woman really allowed in space as

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Speaker 3: others have yet to navigate or get to in their life.

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Speaker 3: She also gets older and wiser and tells about her

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Speaker 3: experience after porn, as a photographer, as a director, as

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Speaker 3: a singer. With so many stories she asked to share.

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Speaker 3: This was quite a memorable episode with Heather Hunter or

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Speaker 3: a QLs classic.

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Speaker 2: I hope you like it. Don't forget about my.

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Speaker 4: Suprema su Su supreme O ro called Suprema Suck Sun

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Speaker 4: Supremo role called Suprema Sun Sun Supremo role called Suprema

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Speaker 4: Sun Suck Supremo Rod.

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Speaker 2: Strange things keep happening. Yeah, I gotta say yeah about

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Speaker 2: thirty pounds. Begged me to intern specifically today.

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Speaker 4: Suprema roll call Suprema Sun Sun Suprema role call.

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Speaker 5: My name is Fante, Yeah you understand. Yeah, he a hunter, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: made me a man.

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Speaker 4: Suprema role called Suprema Sun Sun Supremo role call.

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Speaker 6: My name is Sugar. Yeah, I know our guest. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we used to live together. What at the Riverbank.

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Speaker 7: West Supreme rod called Suprema Suck Suck Supremo role called

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Speaker 7: am boss Bill.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, used to be a be church. Yeah, this here episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: what's fun to research?

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Speaker 4: Suprema Son Suppreva roll cal Suprema Son Sun Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 9: It's like, yeah, some reason, it's moist. Yeah, it's heaven.

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Speaker 10: Joy You're roll Heather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And I think quest put me to a test. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I don't know bars I give blow jobs.

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Speaker 4: Supremo roll call, Suprema Son Sun Suprema roll job Supprema

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Speaker 4: Supremo roll.

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Speaker 8: Well think I've been waiting all day to say that.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode

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Speaker 1: of pust Love Supreme. I am your host, u Amir

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Speaker 1: Thompson aka Top Daddy love and with me. Today's team

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Speaker 1: Supreme at the Helm. We have Fante aka Carolina Cushion.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed comfort, I mean no, You're just Carolina Cushion

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Speaker 2: to day. You know.

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Speaker 1: Next to him is our boom, our boom operator, Sugar

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Speaker 1: Steve aka Mile Miracle Mandel aka Oil of Oyve.

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Speaker 2: What's a mouthful? That took me a second? I got it? Sorry? Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, my jokes don't fly sometimes.

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Speaker 1: And we have our director h Next to him is

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Speaker 1: our director Bill aka Indiana Slick Smoke, Slicks, Indiana Bones,

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Speaker 1: Indiana Bones, Indiana bones.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: And next to him is our first lady like Ea

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Speaker 1: aka sweet Pea pinky Toe.

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Speaker 2: You won't shoot me in the last time he was Clyde,

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Speaker 2: So you know I had to. I had to.

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Speaker 6: I want to beat that sweet Pea pinky Toe.

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Speaker 1: No, Steven can't beat it. Last but not least, Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Our guest today is uh. I got to

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Speaker 1: say all about history.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: She's pretty much had the best seat in the house.

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Speaker 1: Uh literally from watching the classic age of hip hop

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Speaker 1: unfold in real time. Uh, the hip hop that's effected

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Speaker 1: our lives as a key staff member of the Latin

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Speaker 1: Quarter Nightclub, which, as you know, if you're a listener

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Speaker 1: of the show, we cannot stop nerding out about. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Of course the Latin Court nightclub that made stars out

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Speaker 1: of Luminary's like Public Enemy, booking down productions, Uh, Salt

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Speaker 1: and Pepper, Latifa, many others. Uh, even to our place

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Speaker 1: in history. Uh as an Avan Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, what's the Avian? The Avian Avian?

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Speaker 2: I believe it's the adult video av.

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Speaker 9: And now I know, yes, I watched those awards.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but oh those are the only awards you watched. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's one of the most celebrated actresses in the

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Speaker 1: adult video genre. She's also a radio host, of recording

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Speaker 1: artists and art photographer and many more that we're going

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Speaker 1: to find out today.

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Speaker 2: We are going to get to know Heather Hunter.

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Speaker 1: One question, So wait, wait, wait, before we ask you anything, Stee,

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Speaker 1: what the hell was up with your voice?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean y'all live together? Yeah? What's the

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Speaker 2: what's the name of that place?

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Speaker 10: It's everybody?

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Speaker 2: Is that a building?

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Speaker 6: And that's an important forty third and eleventh in Hell's

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Speaker 10: That by Freddy. He's living in the same building.

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Speaker 2: It was a new building when we were there.

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Speaker 6: It was like ninety one ninety two or.

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Speaker 10: Something like that, and a great building.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's great, really nice. INDI so, and I don't

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Speaker 6: expect to remember me, but I had a dalmation back then,

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Speaker 6: and you might remember I was the only person there

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Speaker 2: Wow, in the elevator.

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Speaker 10: And yeah, during my like Riverbank Days party, I was

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Speaker 10: a party queen.

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Speaker 6: Well, you should knocked on my fucking door.

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Speaker 10: It was crazy. Oh my god, they kicked me out.

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Speaker 10: They build up for too many parties. Yeah, damn. How

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Speaker 10: many guys have the best store mat?

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Speaker 2: What floor were you on?

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Speaker 10: I was on the forty third floor?

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Speaker 2: Wow, I was on twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Wait is this when you were This is before electric ladies?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just five years before you were even an engineer.

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Speaker 6: It was like ninety one ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I was right out of college.

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Speaker 1: What kind of money, right, Yeah, now I had two

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Speaker 1: roommates in a one bedroom all right, I'm not rich anyway.

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Speaker 2: So ever, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: It's a pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know this, this is one of these

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be absolutely not even Wilfer Lee, but

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Speaker 1: absolutely ignorant because I want to find out these things

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Speaker 2: Uh so you're from well, I know that you're from

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Speaker 10: I was born in the Bronx. I was raised in

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Speaker 10: Square all all of us used to.

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Speaker 2: So did you know Haitian Jack.

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Speaker 10: I knew Haitian Jack. I knew everybody. I used to

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Speaker 1: Oh, I hear that at Alb Square Mall, every hip

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Alb Square.

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Speaker 1: For those I believe that Haitian Jack and hip hop

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Speaker 1: Folkalore was one of the the Jesse James of he has.

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Speaker 2: I think he's well.

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Speaker 1: People were telling me that he had a collection of

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Speaker 10: Was cast that collect it was wold even the lee

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Speaker 10: you said limited back off the jeans. It was crazy

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Speaker 10: doing crazy stuff. You know, collect those as well, but

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Speaker 10: inside I'll be square. Literally, it was like a melting

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Speaker 10: hip hop. It was you never you know, that was

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Speaker 10: it was really more like we're all down there doing music.

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Speaker 10: We're creating, right, so if we were freestyling, people were dancing.

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Speaker 10: Grew up in Harlem too. I was really I'm really

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Speaker 10: uh wait. I went to in the city when I

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Speaker 10: I got kicked out of there as well because I

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Speaker 10: was doing too much graffiti. So yeah, I was just

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Speaker 10: tagging up all the walls Miss forty five.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. I was in a crew called the craft Work

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Speaker 10: Kings back in the day. Yeah, so I used to

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Speaker 10: I was rolling back then during the same eraw of

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Speaker 10: So I was in the crew of craft work Kings,

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Speaker 9: Did you ever have any like scary spit moments?

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Speaker 10: Was a spit yes, y but still yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: So how how how does one man we're killing so

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Speaker 2: Because how would one get act? Well?

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Speaker 1: I know now like security isn't wasn't as heavy backman

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Speaker 10: Being back in the days in the eighty nineties, So

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Speaker 10: those are really the numbers I was tagging.

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Speaker 2: What was it about that particular spot because I also.

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Speaker 1: Know that everybody went there when Michael Jackson shot the

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Speaker 1: Like everyone's like, that's where you got to shoot that.

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Speaker 10: That's the realist, because that was really that's to me,

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Speaker 10: that's where street art whenever you jumped on the train,

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Speaker 10: that's for all graffiti artists. It had this something about

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Speaker 10: And then there was another yard up in the Bronx,

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Speaker 10: always tagging in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: So was it still regional to the point whereas like

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn people that mess with you, you wouldn't go past

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Speaker 1: your neighborhood or.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, we're free to tell me fighting tagging on

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Speaker 10: each other's different crews names than you're fighting all that?

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Speaker 10: It was crazy? Was I was a real tomboy. I'm

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Speaker 10: still a tomboy, but there's a you know, I've grown

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Speaker 10: it's that tomboy and it's a hard you know, it's

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Speaker 10: in me. But it's amazing. If I think about the

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Speaker 10: stuff I did when I was younger, I would not

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Speaker 10: believe I did that. But I was expressing every day.

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Speaker 2: Damn, how do you hit that off the train? What

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Speaker 2: So when you were younger, you wanted, you had aspirations

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Speaker 10: Well, I knew I could dance, I loved hip hop,

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Speaker 10: Most of the jams were mostly because I lived in

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Speaker 10: That was pretty much like my my life in it.

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Speaker 10: So, but oh, Dodie Bassett was so funny, Like if

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Speaker 10: So I knew for so long of being so young,

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Speaker 10: I knew oh dirty bassiad for a very long time.

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Speaker 10: So when I got into porn later in life, oh

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Speaker 10: my god, Oh my god. He would chase me everywhere

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Speaker 10: it just it blew his mind. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: Did you take a one eighty where I assumed that

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying that the image that we have

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Speaker 10: I had that image, But then I guess I oozed

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Speaker 9: Wasn't it like a moment? Was there like a moment.

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Speaker 11: Do you remember because you said you were tagging you

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Speaker 10: It's more when my boob started growing, guys started looking

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Speaker 10: but you know, I think my traumatic moment took me

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Speaker 2: What was your traumatic moment?

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Speaker 10: I got raped? That was actually the first time I

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Speaker 10: When you're in this childhood and impact like that happens

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Speaker 10: that situation, I decided to I think any woman that

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Speaker 10: way to empower yourself through it. So I went into

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Speaker 10: I had all control. It was at that point I

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Speaker 11: Was it in between the traumatic event and you going

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Speaker 11: into the industry. Was there any like love situation like

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Speaker 11: have did you get the love making process? No?

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Speaker 10: I was searching through the love through the adult business

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Speaker 10: that's what makes it deep about Latin Quarters because when

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Speaker 10: and I realized I needed to stay somewhere. And mister Goldberg,

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Speaker 10: God bless his soul, the owner of Latin Quarters. He

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Speaker 10: Eddie Bell was a great boy, one of my best friends,

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Speaker 10: and I started being a co check girl and working

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Speaker 10: But then it goes to the point where I started

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Speaker 10: working for mister Goldberg in his office because he also

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Speaker 10: co managed. If I can't remember David Copperfield, there was

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Speaker 10: something of a business that's.

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Speaker 2: Like yer random. Yeah, it's very weird.

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Speaker 10: It's like he had some management business with somebody else

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Speaker 10: I would take the calls. Things would happen like that.

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Speaker 10: But then he realized I didn't have a place to stay.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering, like if ever one night he was

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Speaker 10: Yeah. I wound up living in Latin Quarters for at

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Speaker 1: You lived there, I've heard that. Everyone says, yeah, hell,

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Speaker 9: An apartment with a kitchen.

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Speaker 10: Now see, people don't realize about Latin Quarters because you

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Speaker 10: think Italian off. I don't know if I can remember

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Speaker 10: the history. But when you went upstairs in the attic

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Speaker 10: because I stay there. Was really spooky sometimes at night

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Speaker 10: because then I heard a couple of history. After I

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Speaker 2: Life back in the sausagezz day.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, sausage Jazz days. So well, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: So when Paradise and those guys started, I guess the

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Speaker 1: those nights, I'm just I'm not weirded out because I

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Speaker 2: Just made a just made eye of New York.

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Speaker 1: Now like it's gingrified and you know, forty second streets

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Speaker 2: Not as hip as it used to be.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I have to I mean as a person,

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Speaker 2: Night club, not even the owner.

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Speaker 1: Like the owner wasn't at all like worried about like

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Speaker 10: Because it was danger every night, yeah, pretty much every

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Speaker 10: other night. It could be nice if we had a

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Speaker 10: good night, you know, it would be a point.

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Speaker 1: Where so good night would would be what like, no

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Speaker 10: Got beat up. But then you'll see gold chains flying

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Speaker 10: of somebody. They would throw it to their boy on

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Speaker 10: DJ booth. Somebody get yanked, they throw it and throw

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Speaker 10: it to somebody. But sometimes at the end of the night,

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Speaker 10: it was great because at the end of the night,

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Speaker 10: would be God, you got weaves, you got hair, extensions

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Speaker 10: but you were coming up there was girls bamboo ear rings.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: of for one second. When you hear this, what is

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Speaker 2: So Daddy O told me what I didn't know. Now

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Speaker 1: Now as a member of a hip hop man, this

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Speaker 2: No, no, what's the word on?

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Speaker 1: When this ship was played at the Latin Quarter, you instantly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like lost your chain?

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Speaker 1: And yes, whenever anyone like for people when they hear

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Speaker 1: that role, it's a traumatic thing.

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00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: It's in case there's a band from Brooklyn, I go steps,

441
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: step by steps. So when that drum roll happens.

442
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: I found out that it's it's traumatic to some New

443
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: Yorkers because.

444
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: That would mean that robbed. You were about to get robbed.

445
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 10: If your chain was stolen, you gotta be you're definitely

446
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 10: had a buck up. There were certain songs that would

447
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 10: go off in the night and you would just know

448
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 10: this is this is what turns them up, you know.

449
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 10: And and yet y'all still played them and.

450
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: And you went so at No, at no point where

451
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: was your life in danger or anything?

452
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 10: Well, do you me personally? No, because everybody protected me.

453
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 10: Everyone in there, Like literally between Paradise La Mumba, I

454
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 10: had every from the X clan to Professor Professor Yea,

455
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 10: even my boy from Public Enemy. Every everybody teddy ted,

456
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 10: all of them. They all were like my big brothers.

457
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 10: They no one dared not to touch me. It's it was,

458
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 10: it was this is a one crazy experience. I was

459
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 10: working the door. This is when L L COOLJ first

460
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 10: came out. Yeah, I love l Let's start off with this.

461
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 10: And I told Elle later because he didn't realize it

462
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 10: was me, you know. But this is when Ella just

463
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 10: came out. He had his radio, he was looking fly,

464
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 10: you know, he was at his peak, you know. And

465
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 10: Latin Court is security was not something to mess with,

466
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. They really didn't care who

467
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 10: you were. They were gonna stomp you out. They won't

468
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 10: if there was a problem. They did not care. It

469
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 10: was the most toughest security. There's no security like l

470
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 10: Q security today. Really hands down, no, so how many.

471
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 10: Sometimes it would be like outside it was so crazy

472
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 10: because it'd be like three or four outside, but by

473
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 10: the time something pop off, they'd like ten people out there.

474
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 10: They're like ten dudes stomping on somebody or even other

475
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 10: people from the club that work in the club. It

476
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 10: was just madness. Was it was so madness. But for

477
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 10: some streets reason, you've you felt at peace. I can't

478
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 10: explain it, because it was like it was like a

479
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 10: chaotic church, you know. I you know, there was something

480
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 10: very special about the place, but then there was something

481
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 10: very dark too, you know, right, it had this uh

482
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 10: definitely this double edged sword when it came to and

483
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 10: because there was so much, so much talent in that place,

484
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 10: Like I would be on a dance floor with salt

485
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 10: and pepper utfo like everybody clean the teetha light, all

486
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 10: of us on the floor and no one. Everybody know

487
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 10: they're talented and they're special, you know, but it's like

488
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 10: you would never know, like to see where everybody is

489
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 10: calipulted to. Now it's a beautiful thing, but you could

490
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 10: feel that everybody in that club was going to turn

491
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 10: turn into something. It was going to be something so

492
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 10: what happened with l L actually came up to me.

493
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 10: You know, he's just being it was all in my face.

494
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 10: And at that time, I was dating one of the

495
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 10: security dudes, the head of security, and he was just

496
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 10: blah blah blah blah, and it was like I was like,

497
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 10: back up, and it was just kind of crazy. And

498
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 10: then I just flipped and I said security and that's

499
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 10: all I had to say. Whenever. It was at that

500
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 10: point and as soon as I know, L was out

501
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 10: the club. You know, he was out the club, you know.

502
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 10: And then later years later, when I became quote unquote

503
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 10: head hunter and years like it, I saw L and

504
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 10: I told Elle. I was like, do you remember me?

505
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 10: And he was like some Latin quarters. He's like, nah,

506
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 10: I don't. I said, do you remember a girl when

507
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 10: you had you only got kicked out Latin quarter once?

508
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 10: He was like, oh my god, that was you.

509
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: So was he trying to holler?

510
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 10: I was trying to holler. But then after you know,

511
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 10: it was and you gotta but you gotta think about it.

512
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 10: He's l L. Every girl wanted l L. Back then.

513
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 9: He was coming strong.

514
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 10: But I was a different type of chick and my

515
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 10: man worked. He said the security. And I was young girl,

516
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 10: and I you know, like I said, all you have

517
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 10: to do is say security in it with me. It

518
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 10: was this, Okay, the most remarkable moment I remember of

519
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 10: Latin Quarters int when Public Enemy performed. Really, oh my god.

520
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: I'll say, you're probably the only person that has a

521
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: positive view of this, because even Chuck himself was like.

522
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: It.

523
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 10: It was so intense. It threw everybody off. And I

524
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 10: think at that time, to me, their presentation, everything that

525
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 10: woul puppic Ennemys stand for and just they staged for

526
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 10: presence was to me gripping, you know. And I think

527
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 10: you know, there was always confident this. You know, everybody

528
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 10: has confidicent what they thought was hot on stage because

529
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 10: they weren't on stage. Everybody was getting an opportunity to

530
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 10: be on stage.

531
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 7: You know.

532
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask this. Can you describe Melly Milons?

533
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: Can you describe Melly Milk, because again and all my

534
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: and all my research of Latin Quarter folklore, Melly mils

535
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: If the Latin Quarters were the Muppets, then he.

536
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Stalin like the two guys in the balcony were like

537
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: for Grumpy, Yeah, like was.

538
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: Were they like the first guys in the club and

539
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: the last few guys to leave, or like, what was

540
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: their presence in that club.

541
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 10: Well, it's so funny every between Grand Massive, Flash, Mister Broadway,

542
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 10: all of them. To me, it was just funny because

543
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 10: like back then that era, especially with hip hop, it

544
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 10: seemed like they were every artist was dressing like a

545
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 10: male stripper, you know what I mean.

546
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: It was like another member of Earth, Wind and Fire.

547
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 10: And it was it was like everybody came out to shine.

548
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 10: So yeah, everybody stayed to the end. Some people would

549
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 10: leave before the end because that's when a lot of

550
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 10: things would pop off at the end of the night.

551
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, and those lights would come on and off,

552
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 10: on and off, on and off throughout the night. Music

553
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 10: was shut up, something happened. Lights back on, lights back off,

554
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 10: music still going. Uh but I said, they missed the Broadway.

555
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 10: And I used to laugh because now, if I think

556
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 10: about it, he used to wear these little purple tights,

557
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 10: you know.

558
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Pants, and you're.

559
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 10: Still the eighties, you know.

560
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

561
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's to me that that time and ever there's

562
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 10: nothing like it. I've never experienced anything like that club before.

563
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Was there a historic hip hop occurrence or something that

564
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: you remember where it was just that besides publicain me, like,

565
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: was there one moment where you felt I mean, because

566
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: a lot of things historically happened. Man, I think what

567
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: hammered got booed there? And Valve Revenge? I just found

568
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: out they cadn't play. Also, uh, their initial group.

569
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: I can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember. That's company too.

570
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember to check it myself. I just

571
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: love the fact that you too are going down. You're

572
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: not gonna find it on Google built two hype.

573
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 9: It's like high energy or something like that.

574
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: No, it's something.

575
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: But as that incarnation they got booed and they came

576
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: back as kitt and play.

577
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Who were the IOE You dancers?

578
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 10: I was in the IOU. I was the only girl

579
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 10: in the io you really, So what.

580
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: Was it like? Y'all were just a click of dancers that.

581
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 10: I forced myself in that group, really, I really did. Uh.

582
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 10: And then even with rock Steady Crew because Crazy Legs,

583
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 10: you just teach me how to dance, so I would

584
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 10: be on a dance world with Crazy Legs. But they

585
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 10: were all boy group dance crews. A lot of dance

586
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 10: crews back then, and I you of the best they

587
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 10: would dance a lot for mostly the artists background, and

588
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 10: then they would do like different segments in between the shows.

589
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 10: So they were pretty much like the house dancers dance

590
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 10: crew of Latin Quarters.

591
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: Ye're here, Like every week they would invent They literally

592
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: invented everything from yeah, cabbage fast to everything the rebox

593
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: to you know, didn't play the felile like oh wow.

594
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: They literally invented every dance that you'd see. Man, you know,

595
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: it made it national.

596
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: So do you remember the last night of the club,

597
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: like what ended the Latin Quarter?

598
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 10: Honestly, I really it was really about Goldberg was selling it.

599
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 10: You know, he had to sell it. He was just

600
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 10: going on for his own. From that point, I was

601
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 10: in the adult world at that point.

602
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: What year was that?

603
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 10: Oh god, around what time was that? I think I

604
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 10: was by nineteen nineteen years old, eighteen nineteen eighteen, Yeah, eighteen,

605
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 10: that's when I was gone because that's when I went

606
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 10: to LA But yeah, after my eighteenth nineteenth that's when

607
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 10: it started changing over the point you made before. The

608
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 10: most specialties to me was the most special night about

609
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 10: Latin Quarters was when Scottlanrox wake. That was the most peaceful,

610
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 10: touching night that I could ever remember of Latin Quarters,

611
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 10: like everyone came at peace, everybody was. It was just

612
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 10: one of those moments that you would never ever forget,

613
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, And even people in there

614
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 10: you could just feel like, you know, we need to

615
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 10: do better, right, you know?

616
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: I heard that?

617
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: Uh, I guess Paradise kind of wanted to change the

618
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: Paradise was the the promoter, right, the promoter Paradise of

619
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: of the celebrity Tuesdays?

620
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: Was it always on a Tuesday or any other nights?

621
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 10: It was on Tuesdays, but then there was always private

622
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 10: events sometime I was there mostly when I was working there,

623
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 10: I was always there, like five days a week.

624
00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: Celebrity Tuesday was on the Saturday. Actually asked him, with

625
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: Celebrity Tuesdays on Tuesday?

626
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: I just meant, were hip hop Nights only on Tuesday Sunday?

627
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 10: If I believe I can remember, I think Sunday as well.

628
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 12: Look shot at you said, maybe maybe do it?

629
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: I met? Was hip hop night only on Tuesday?

630
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 6: I'm in charge of sarcasm anyway, I don't know what

631
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 6: the hell?

632
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what what I'm what I meant to ask was,

633
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: was I heard that Paradise implemented more the the afrocentric

634
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: phase of where hip hop was going to with the Medallions,

635
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: with ben Boda's presence there, with the Zulu presence that

636
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: he was actually responsible for that and was kind of

637
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: trying to phase out the the gold chain violent side

638
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: of hip hop due to Scott's death and now trying

639
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: to implement more afrocentricity, which is pretty.

640
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: Much how so was Paradise. Was he a producer face

641
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: like he wasn't one of.

642
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 10: The Paradise was literally, my god, Paradise between Paradise with

643
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 10: gold mister Goldberg, he handled a lot of stuff for him,

644
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 10: the handle he banished a lot of stuff. And then

645
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 10: he was a promoter. Uh there was a few promoters

646
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 10: so now yeah, also but you know you had read

647
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 10: Alert and Special K and ted Ted. They were mostly

648
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 10: the regular DJs in there. But yeah, between Paradise was

649
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 10: the man. He was a guy and he really that

650
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 10: was like that's like my big brother Padise. Oh yeah, definitely.

651
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 10: He just wrote a book. He just put out a

652
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 10: photography book. No half stepan there you go.

653
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Ah, I've seen this got you.

654
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 10: But it's one thing and I taped on something that's

655
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 10: so different between now versus the Latin quarter era with

656
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 10: the girls in the club, you know, as when I

657
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 10: was growing up in the club. Even this genres even

658
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 10: like so all of them can even definitely can relate

659
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 10: to this. We were B girls, do you know what

660
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 10: I mean? So it seems like the B girl had

661
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 10: that era versus now, we had so much respect. They

662
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 10: treated us like they gave us respect. The men in

663
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 10: hip hop, it was like they put you on a

664
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 10: pedestal versus now it's not like that, you know. And

665
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 10: my whole thing is like bringing something back. I really

666
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 10: wish I could bring back the big girl essence, you know,

667
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 10: and make men and hip hop recognized that versus in

668
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 10: the eighty and nineties how they treated girls. I mean,

669
00:37:52,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 10: it's so different, yes, because you know, my god, you know,

670
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 10: I'm so happy I was a big girl.

671
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: So when you graduated New York or did you what

672
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: did did you feel like that you were outgrowing New York?

673
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: Like what called you to Los Angeles?

674
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 10: Porn?

675
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 11: Don't avoid it, just get it, don't avoid it, just

676
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 11: get it.

677
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 10: Just don't you just wait.

678
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: Talking about talking about you.

679
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 9: I was like, just get out the Latin court and

680
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 9: go into them because that's where she went. That's where

681
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 9: she went.

682
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 10: And then when I got back, it was when I

683
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 10: got back then it was a tunnel, you know.

684
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, different, it went from that was my era.

685
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 10: It went from Irving Plaza to tunnel and things were changing. Now.

686
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 10: You know that was my era too, because I did

687
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 10: a lot. I was a promoter a lot for tunnel.

688
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 10: What didn't you do?

689
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: So let's tackle that issue.

690
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: As like, all right, so you you go to Los Angeles, Like,

691
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: how did you How do you get into the industry?

692
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: How does one get into the.

693
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: Industry, especially when the time here that you were in

694
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: the industry. You know, I'm certain that porn is probably

695
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: one of the most racist cultures of all time. Like

696
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: the titles I would see it was like again like

697
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: fried Chicken and fucking all that, all the stuff in

698
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: mind No, like nah, I got my uncle, like Ray

699
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: Victory and barc Fine three like it was.

700
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how.

701
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Do you navigate your way to the status that you

702
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: became because as far as I'm concerned, like you were,

703
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: at least from my point of view, you kind of

704
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: were equal billing of the white actresses of the of

705
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: the time, right, Yeah, you weren't doing like super derogatory.

706
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 10: It was because I had a really good manager. He

707
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 10: had a magical idea. When we kicked me off.

708
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: The magic like, let's treat you.

709
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's not tell them what your colored skin is.

710
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 10: We're gonna put your first movie out and it's gonna

711
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 10: be Heather. And it was like we're gonna ignore that.

712
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 10: You're no, no, no, I'm saying, as in, when you're

713
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 10: doing promo, before you're doing promo to put out for

714
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 10: adult like promo goes out. So the whole team was

715
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 10: like throwing out Heather, Heather, and then my face was

716
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 10: so shown. And then that's when I started standing up

717
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 10: for everything.

718
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: But what what's promo?

719
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 10: And the adult world back then promo adult wore was

720
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 10: like okay, uh A v N. When you had the

721
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 10: A B n's back then, so they would give flyers,

722
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 10: you promote things. It was mostly like street teaming stuff,

723
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 10: you know. And then you know, the Internet was only

724
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 10: created for porn back then, so if you were on

725
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 10: the Internet at that time, you knew exactly what was

726
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 10: going on, at least with in the adult world, you know.

727
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 10: And then I stood up for every right from there on,

728
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 10: I refused to be treated I want to be treated

729
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 10: no matter what color my skin is. So I really

730
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 10: stood up. I broke through a lot of color barriers.

731
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 10: I stayed to my convictions, and it's really about knowing

732
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 10: your worth and sticking to it.

733
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: You know, how old you when you did your first

734
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 5: movie eighteen eight I did it on my birthday.

735
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 10: Wow, what was October first? Okay, yeah, that's.

736
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: What was the first? What was that experience? Like, just

737
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: your first time on camera?

738
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 10: Oh, it's crazy. It was really crazy because I realized

739
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 10: how wild the people were in the business, you know

740
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 10: what I mean. And I was like, wow, this is crazy.

741
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 10: It seemed like I danced through it like I was

742
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 10: kind of like an out of body experience, you know,

743
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 10: do you know what to expect? Like I had no clue.

744
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 10: And then when this girl pulled out this back then,

745
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 10: it was really no dil though. She put out one

746
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 10: of these big massages. She was vibe you.

747
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 9: Know massage, yes, yes, expenses.

748
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

749
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 10: That was actually the first time I actually was with

750
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 10: on cameras the very first time.

751
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: So the first time was with the girl. It wasn't

752
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: with the guy.

753
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 10: It was no, it was a guy. But it was

754
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 10: my first time actually having a girl. Oh okay, I

755
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 10: mean I was attracted to girls. It was my first

756
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 10: time really going all the way in.

757
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: So I mean, how are you not self conscious about it?

758
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty sure that some part of porn is scientific,

759
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: as in, okay, stop cut.

760
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: We need this angle right here. And you know.

761
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: There's no manual to guide you through that or any training.

762
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: So how do you just you got to catch on

763
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: quick and man.

764
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, honestly, I say, you know, that's why the

765
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 10: difference between now how everybody's really over top with their

766
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 10: sexuality and not really understanding it. When in the point business,

767
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 10: you really have to be a professional. You have to

768
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 10: have that professional state of mind because if you don't

769
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 10: and you just dip in, you can lose it along

770
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 10: the way, you know what I mean. So oh yeah,

771
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 10: I could lose it a long way. So you have

772
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 10: to already be a natural freak. I think it has

773
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 10: to be already in you have no inhibitions, you know,

774
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 10: comfortable with sexuality.

775
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 9: But did you know how much of a freak you

776
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 9: were like that age?

777
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

778
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, because you still have to become more of

779
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 11: a freak, you know what I mean, Like eighteen freak

780
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 11: Heather is different than ten years later.

781
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 10: I'm more freakier now, but I'm a domestic freak now.

782
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 10: I got a man, you know, I'm home, you know,

783
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 10: you know, but it's a different it's different dynamic now.

784
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 10: But I think the older you get, you get more freakier,

785
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 10: you know.

786
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at you to leave this conversation.

787
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 5: But what is the difference between sex on camera and

788
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 5: or rather, how do you differentiate between sex on camera

789
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: and like you say, like domestic sex or sensitizing?

790
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, like how do you how do you how do

791
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: you have?

792
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 5: Like you is it like you have a scene with

793
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 5: somebody and it's like, oh, great job and let's hook

794
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 5: up later, or.

795
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Is it just a line? It's like that was that?

796
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: And now?

797
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 10: Well that's the thing. When I was in porn, I

798
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 10: only dated porn stars males that I wouldn't date somebody

799
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 10: out I call y'all civilians. I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't

800
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 10: do it because honestly, I was like, why you want

801
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 10: to date me doing porn? You know, because I wouldn't

802
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 10: want to date me, you know. So I had this thing,

803
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 10: now date male porn starts, so yeah, I got to

804
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 10: pick all my men because I work for Vivid, So

805
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 10: it was yeah, we would go from there and then

806
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 10: we would have awkward sex in front of the camera

807
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 10: and everybody telling you to do something. It's just like

808
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 10: you can't even enjoy it. So you would go back

809
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 10: into the bathroom after your scene was done, and then

810
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 10: y'all could actually have and get it in if y'all

811
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 10: were together, if you felt like it.

812
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: So it is acting. How much of that is acting?

813
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 10: Oh, it's acting. It's hard.

814
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 9: How can you act with your your body has to respond?

815
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 10: No, because it's like, okay, perfect example, I was watching

816
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 10: a porn. I just had this discussion with somebody. I

817
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 10: was just watching porn and like I say, if I

818
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 10: meet a guy when I was single, if I met

819
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 10: a guy and he's like wants to pound pound, he's

820
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 10: doing everything like a porno movie. And no, it's like

821
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 10: that in good you know. No, No, no, it's not

822
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 10: good because like when you're watching the porn, even when

823
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 10: we're having sex on camera, we got to speed up

824
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 10: so it looks exciting for the viewer. We have to

825
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 10: we have to do everything to make it look so exciting.

826
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 10: And then when we're about exciting and into it. They're like, cut, okay,

827
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 10: we gotta do this, turn the angle, go this way,

828
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 10: all right, you gotta you know, So we got.

829
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: A whole new generation that watches porn and repeats it

830
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: and yeah and all.

831
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: And they ain't even they ain't need to go now

832
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: I see.

833
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know.

834
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: You said so disappointed.

835
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 10: Because they're professional entertainers. That's what we're doing.

836
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 11: That's a problem. Men watch porn, they think sometimes No.

837
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 10: It's not that you know, is it.

838
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: I would imagine that for the male performer, it's almost

839
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: there's a bigger pressure to instantly performed, because I mean,

840
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: women can fake orgasms like no body's visually.

841
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 10: But now they got viagra. Like in my eraror it

842
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 10: was hard, you know. Now the guys are just yeah, I'm.

843
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 2: Just saying like just like on que, like okay, let's

844
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: hurry up.

845
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, Ray victory, perfect sample. He could not come unless

846
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 10: you had red high heels on. Shut it. Yeah, he

847
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 10: was banging so much. He could not come. He did

848
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 10: not care who you were. I remember I had a

849
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 10: scene with them and I had my little you know,

850
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 10: because I was so very girl. Next story, I had

851
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 10: my little skippies on.

852
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: He was like they ain't gonna get it.

853
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 10: That ain't gonna do it. That's not gonna do it.

854
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 10: They had to go get me. Yeah, red high heel.

855
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I'm kind of like the the

856
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: the yoga era of porn and this whole like what

857
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: was the yoga era?

858
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: The yoga era? I mean, I mean they have different things.

859
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: They have like a lot. It's always the same back up, Like.

860
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: It's like it's either the pizza delivery scene, Oh.

861
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 9: Okay, set up, Yeah, I just oh, now there's yoga

862
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 9: class or.

863
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 10: In my head, yes, yes.

864
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. The sports gym look is not.

865
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not hot, it's it's not personally sexy to me, Okay, but.

866
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 2: You know it's love who.

867
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 11: Yo isn't just to get get you out of your

868
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 11: your whole you're going into it? Isn't porn one of

869
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 11: the one of the only industries where the men is

870
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 11: inequality between the men and the women in pay where

871
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 11: the men get paid less or is that yeah.

872
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 10: The men get paid less. Certain guys, if you're a

873
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 10: star guy, you could probably make more money than the girls.

874
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 10: But if you're in gay porn, they make more money.

875
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 10: They make money. Take like the women. Yeah, so it's

876
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 10: you know, I have a lot of colleagues that are

877
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 10: in the business that I've been out of the business

878
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 10: for twenty eight years now. I've been retired, so it's

879
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 10: been a long time. I kind of keep in touch

880
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 10: with certain people because I certain people I do like

881
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 10: that's still in the business, or like I like Missy Stone.

882
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 10: I think she's a good person.

883
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 9: So mentoring a little bit, how do you mentor a

884
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 9: little bit?

885
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 10: My whole life is a question every day, you know,

886
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 10: My every day is you know, uh, it's interesting. It

887
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 10: comes to my my uh rings on my phone every day,

888
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 10: questions everything. So I think the business itself and I

889
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 10: still and I think people look at me and I'm

890
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 10: not anti porn. You know, a lot of people think, wow,

891
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 10: she's not porn, she feels. My only view about porn

892
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 10: is I just really wish that they would practice safe sex.

893
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 10: How was that bothered? Well, I left because I wasn't gonna.

894
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 10: I was wearing condoms anyway, as soon as I came about,

895
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 10: I was wearing condoms. But after I do, I was

896
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 10: telling I tell this all the time. When I did

897
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 10: a movie in Her Life, a Vivid and I was

898
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 10: doing a scene in a non erupting volcano. It was

899
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 10: down inside the volcano with Vince somebody for you, and

900
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 10: I'm like, why am I down here? Because after taxes,

901
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 10: it's not gonna be worth it. Between my health taxes,

902
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 10: I can't do this no more, you know what I mean.

903
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 10: It's just it's just I think I started growing up,

904
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 10: you know, I started kind of waking up and realizing,

905
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 10: you know, there's more things that are important, which is

906
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 10: your health and making sure you stay on this earth.

907
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 10: Because that business is like going into war. You can

908
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 10: come out a soldier unscathed, or you can come out

909
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 10: and you can really die, you know what I mean.

910
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: How thorough are they as far as making sure that

911
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: I had my papers and I'm tested and there's someone

912
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: always on the set that's like okay, let me and

913
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: someone could lie about it.

914
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: Detroit.

915
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it was Darren James was him.

916
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: It sounds really I think I just knew that he

917
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: went to Brazil and he got infected. I know that

918
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: the industry had to shut down for a month or so,

919
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: Like who who are the police dogs that enforces that?

920
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 2: And like in the age that it.

921
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 10: Is now, that was so crazy.

922
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: It's almost like pull out your iPhone.

923
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 10: It's impossible to. I mean, you have your set companies

924
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 10: that still the the protocol you take get tested every

925
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 10: time you do a movie. Uh, these people still choose to.

926
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 10: They don't want you to wear condoms, but if you

927
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 10: want to, you have to really insist it. Sometimes you

928
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 10: won't get hired because you just want to wear condoms.

929
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 10: So I was a Vivid So I was contract girl,

930
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 10: So I was able to wear condoms if I choose to.

931
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: What was that the highest owner back then? Like to

932
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: be a Vivid like.

933
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 10: Now, oh yeah, even to this day, to be a

934
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 10: Vivid girl, they're still yeah.

935
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 11: I mean Kim and ray J took them to another level, right,

936
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 11: and then it just went back that was Vivid.

937
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 9: That was Vivid r R.

938
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: You said that alacrity, that was the empire built.

939
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 9: For like yeah, that was the Kardashian empire. Yeah, and

940
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 9: that was probably.

941
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 10: Be a Vivid girl. I always will. It's something that

942
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna, uh forget up my life because it

943
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 10: was they were a great company.

944
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: Were your peers as nice to you and or that thing?

945
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: Or was it like was it Caddy?

946
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 10: As far as I know, all my the vivid girls.

947
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 10: I was cool with one I punched in the face.

948
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 10: Who was that? That's hilarious.

949
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 9: You just want to know what she is the one?

950
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 10: It was one I punched in the face.

951
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: Who you have punch? Who was?

952
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 10: I'm not going to say, why did you have the

953
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 10: h what she do? Uh? We were all on set

954
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 10: waiting for her, all the vivid girls, one step waiting

955
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 10: for I was really sick, and she decides that she

956
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 10: showed up like four hour She went to go get

957
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 10: her hair bleached, and I was sick. And then she

958
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 10: came in just like I could do what evan, what

959
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 10: you're gonna do with it? Not just softer? What you

960
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 10: going to do?

961
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: Did she still do the same?

962
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 10: My Keisha came out and that's socked and and then

963
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 10: they said they sent her home and I finished the shoot.

964
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 9: You know, her face was fucked up. Her face was fucked.

965
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 10: After that, she began like she really wanted to be

966
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 10: my best friend. From there on.

967
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: She didn't want to get posted.

968
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 10: It's funny, it's funny, but yeah, no, everybody's always respectful.

969
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 10: We were like the Brady.

970
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: Bunch, say for.

971
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: The environment you grew up in as a New Yorker,

972
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: and the time that you grew up in as a

973
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: New Yorker, You're very nurturing and not necessarily like usually

974
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 1: there's a hard exterior or a defensive exterior, and most

975
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: New Yorkers, I know, like I haven't. I've yet to

976
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: hear you say what happened or like any brook when

977
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: sort of terminology that lets me know that you're like

978
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: you've been.

979
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: Through ship and lived through ship. Dead ass.

980
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 10: But that's that's when I said, Keisha, come, that's my

981
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 10: middle name. That's when Keisha comes out, you know what

982
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 10: I mean?

983
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what is your real name?

984
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 10: My name is Heather Keisha Hunter.

985
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: Okay, what made you go into your real name?

986
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 10: My father he said, be proud of your name. You

987
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 10: have a powerful name.

988
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: So when he found out you were doing Paul, what

989
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: was his reaction.

990
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 10: He was like, he was not shocked. It was more

991
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 10: or less. My father always I could rob a bank,

992
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 10: and my dad was like, she's the best bank robber.

993
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 10: You know. I could do no wrong in my father's eyes,

994
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 10: which was beautiful because that helped me, you know, you

995
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 10: know along the way.

996
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: You know, let your mother in the picture as well.

997
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, my mom too. My mom still don't get it.

998
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 10: She looked at me like, what did you do so

999
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 10: get it? You know, she still don't get it.

1000
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: Do you have a large family? You have cousins a

1001
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: huge family because you are the krim of.

1002
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean, your name is pop culture reference in many

1003
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: of hip hop's rhymes.

1004
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 2: Is it weird for your cousins or whatever?

1005
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 10: Like to like, how well my sisters I have to

1006
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 10: you know, it's interesting my younger sisters. If you saw

1007
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 10: my younger right, okay, yeah, my younger sister. You know,

1008
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 10: I knew it was going to be hard for them

1009
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 10: because they're both beautiful, they attractive. But what I loved

1010
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 10: about them they were raised so strong, good head on

1011
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 10: their shoulders that no matter what comes away, or if

1012
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 10: somebody was like, oh you have to have a sister

1013
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 10: or something, they really handle it. You know, they never

1014
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 10: wanted to stray away from it, you know. And then

1015
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 10: my male cousins, all of them use my name like,

1016
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 10: oh I could get pussys. Yeah, so it's it's interesting.

1017
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 11: What about all those those mcs that you mentioned that

1018
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 11: you came up with Latin Quarter, Like, at what point

1019
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 11: was everybody well receiving of your career or was anybody like,

1020
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 11: all right, let me come talk to you in a corner.

1021
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 10: You know, I have a few, like a few. Thank god.

1022
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 10: I've been the same all my life. My character, everything

1023
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 10: about me, I've never changed. So you have a few

1024
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 10: people that have thrown off. You know, definitely a few

1025
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 10: people have thrown off. But then they got used to

1026
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 10: it because I think it came with the respect that

1027
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 10: I already had within my community, my street, my friends.

1028
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 10: It was just already there. You know, I really respect people.

1029
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: And something just hit me right now, like literally, when

1030
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: she said that, something hit me.

1031
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry it sounded like it. Wait a minute.

1032
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this about me, Heather,

1033
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: but I am probably the third most knowledgeable person of anything.

1034
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 10: Soul trained, Oh my god, so trained danced.

1035
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that was I was going to say, like,

1036
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: even then, I didn't put two and two together that

1037
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: that was you.

1038
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 10: Yeah. I wasn't porn at that time.

1039
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: Wow, I was going.

1040
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: To say you were on you were a soul trained

1041
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: dancer as Heather Hunter.

1042
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 10: I snuck in on the line. I used my mother's name,

1043
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 10: so I got online. They let me in. As soon

1044
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 10: as I was on the floor. I guess because I

1045
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 10: danced like I'm New York. They were like, oh my god.

1046
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 10: And the Asian Grove the long hair, Yeah, she was

1047
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 10: retiring and I had long hair, so they immediately threw

1048
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 10: me up. So now I'm up on stage, I'm like, oh,

1049
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 10: this is this is great. My boy who had the cane?

1050
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 10: I forgot It took like about five shows for I

1051
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 10: was going to.

1052
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: Say, you were only on for seven episodes? Yeah, what happened?

1053
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 10: Eric Cassim, who was the manager, who was the possession

1054
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 10: that he knew after he realized, it's like, oh my god,

1055
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 10: sat the Hunter, you know, and even Louis point to

1056
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 10: the cane. Oh my god, it's Hell the Hunter. So

1057
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 10: they kind of hid me from from Don Cornelius for

1058
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 10: a while and they threw me down. Eric kept throwing

1059
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 10: me down the soul train line. Okay, let's gets you

1060
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 10: down the soul train line. Let's get you down. We're

1061
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 10: gonna get all these down. And then out of nowhere,

1062
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 10: someone contacted the Don Cornelius and say that you have

1063
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 10: a point started gyrating twirling down the line.

1064
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: I bet Pam Brown it was Pam brownk.

1065
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: God was wow.

1066
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 10: Don was like pulled me to the side. When I

1067
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 10: came back next time, he could not. This is how

1068
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 10: great this was because I would see Don at Stringfellows

1069
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 10: at the club in La So He's like, who is

1070
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 10: this girl? How did she get into Stringfellas? I'm there

1071
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 10: with Marvin Gaye Jr. And all of them, and how

1072
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 10: is she in here? You know? And then it clicked

1073
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 10: and he found out who I was, and then he couldn't. Uh,

1074
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 10: I got. I love Don for this because he didn't

1075
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 10: want to tell me that I couldn't be on the

1076
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 10: show because he thought it was not right to do.

1077
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 10: You can't do that, you know what I mean? Yeah,

1078
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 10: So I gave him a break and I did it

1079
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 10: for him, you know what I mean? Yeah, I gave

1080
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 10: him to it and then I used to and then

1081
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 10: I said, said, I get it. You know, I'm just

1082
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 10: happy that I had experience to actually do this. And

1083
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 10: he was like, you cause still hanging come down and

1084
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 10: exactly why we do? I go and chill and I

1085
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 10: would hang out because I worked with Eric as well,

1086
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 10: and Don was just the coolest. And then by that time,

1087
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 10: you know, friends, and I had to respect him because

1088
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 10: you know, he couldn't do it, you know, he couldn't say, hey,

1089
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 10: you can't be you know. So I was like, okay,

1090
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go. And then we did a porn on

1091
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 10: a movie called Get on a Real Soul Train. I

1092
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 10: love Vivid. We just said okay, come on, we're gonna

1093
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 10: do a movie called Get on the Real Soul Train.

1094
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 9: It was a train.

1095
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 10: It was me Peter North. Yeah, it was really good.

1096
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 9: Was it a train involved?

1097
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 10: No, It's like I.

1098
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: Don't think she means like.

1099
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 9: Ah, I don't know that. Do you have do you

1100
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 9: have an did you have a no list?

1101
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: Heather?

1102
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 9: Did you have like? Oh? Yeah, what I get break

1103
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 9: it down?

1104
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 10: My low list was not past three people. Okay, I think.

1105
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 5: Three guys are just three girls and guys did the.

1106
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 10: Three guy thing and I didn't. It was just too much.

1107
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 10: I didn't do anal. I still don't do anal. You know.

1108
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: That's like.

1109
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 10: It's okay, you still under yeah, you know, just really

1110
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 10: she wants to do it.

1111
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 5: She can yeah, after her being when you were under

1112
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 5: contract for Vivid at that time, what was the stipulations?

1113
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 5: Because I mean, could you dance on soul train or

1114
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 5: could you do if someone do a movie like a

1115
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 5: not a pornograph movie but like a regular movie.

1116
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 10: No, I could do anything.

1117
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: You could do that.

1118
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 10: I was just an independent contract. Even though I was

1119
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 10: on a contract with them. You're understand, just six movies

1120
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 10: a year. We would bang out the six movies and

1121
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 10: just one month, so the whole year, I'm pretty much

1122
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 10: what I want to do.

1123
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 5: And so for doing six movies in a year, that

1124
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 5: was enough for you. You could survive off of that financially.

1125
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 10: It was adding to the part of touring.

1126
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was touring so okay.

1127
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: And by touring, you was dancing in clubs and stuff.

1128
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, gotcha.

1129
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, the money is sweet. That was hard to give up,

1130
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 10: you know. But now I make clean money. I call

1131
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 10: it clean money. It's not clean and it I call

1132
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 10: it non kinky money.

1133
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: So when you announced your retirement, was I don't.

1134
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: Know what was it taken seriously by the industry.

1135
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: Is it always like you'll be back?

1136
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: Because both of them cannot get out of the soundtrap

1137
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: of of that industry for real?

1138
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 10: No, I did it, Jasy, I No, I can't came back.

1139
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 10: Yeah I did it, Jacy, But no one knew I

1140
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 10: came back. Yeah, I came back, and I just privately

1141
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 10: signed a contract with the Vivid and I gave them

1142
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 10: I think four more movies, okay, and then I completely stopped.

1143
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 10: So it seemed like it was part of the same

1144
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 10: eraror when I was doing films. But I just really

1145
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 10: came back into a couple of films and I was done.

1146
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: What was it that made you get out? When you

1147
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: got out?

1148
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 10: I was done the HIV the Yeah, I was done. Yeah.

1149
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 10: I didn't want to catch anything I couldn't get rid

1150
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 10: of like.

1151
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: That, you know what I mean?

1152
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 10: Or die, you know?

1153
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 5: And then when you made the comeback, what was it

1154
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 5: that shifted when you came back to that brief time?

1155
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 10: I came back for money, honestly. Yeah. I came back

1156
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 10: because I had a purpose. I wanted, you know, there's

1157
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 10: certain things. I was buying a house, and that's why

1158
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 10: I came back. Is when I came back is when

1159
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 10: Tupac passed away. Tupac told me to come back. After

1160
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 10: I did how do you Want It video, he convinced

1161
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 10: me to move back to LA and a couple of

1162
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 10: months after that he passed away. So I was in

1163
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 10: LA and I was just like, okay, let me.

1164
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: Know what was now.

1165
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: That's the time when I started to visit l A,

1166
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: and l A was a hot territory as far as

1167
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: the height of death Row.

1168
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: Now again, I mean, if you survived the tunnel, I'm pretty.

1169
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: Sure that there's no place that you're afraid.

1170
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: You can handle death Row if you can survive the tunnel.

1171
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: But I mean the environment was still hot out there

1172
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: as far as tension and where hip hop was at

1173
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: the time, and beef and all that stuff. How I mean,

1174
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: what was it like for you to see him pass away?

1175
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: And I knew that you two were good friends. So

1176
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: now that the Tupac film is out, like, what are

1177
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: your feelings about his legacy and what he bent as

1178
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: far as the industry is concerned.

1179
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 10: Asle that's a lot of layers. I think, Oh, man,

1180
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 10: this is when I Tupac always kind of like I

1181
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 10: get great. You know. Oh it's unfortunate because when I

1182
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 10: met Tupac, I met him in New York City, you know,

1183
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 10: And just like any hip hop artists that I've known

1184
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 10: that have been dear to me by the blessings of

1185
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 10: like I swear as like angels, there's always like someone

1186
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 10: looking out for me in any area that something's about

1187
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 10: to pop off, you know, And the time that I

1188
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 10: spend with Pac, I never saw him an environment of

1189
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 10: hostile like you know, I never saw anything violent or

1190
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 10: you know, So to see that world when he was

1191
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 10: not around me, it was like I saw a man

1192
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 10: that very misunderstudent in a sense, because you really people

1193
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 10: don't really know him, you know what I mean. There

1194
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 10: was so many layers, so he.

1195
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: Was humanized to you, yeah, human dimensional to you.

1196
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 10: Yeah. And even the Yeah, A lot of things are

1197
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 10: touching for me, even this movie. You know, I think

1198
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 10: it's a beautiful thing that they did of Tupac film. Uh,

1199
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 10: but I don't. I think it's too close to home

1200
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 10: for me, you know what I mean that I don't,

1201
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 10: I don't, you know, it'll take me a second to

1202
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 10: watch that film. You know, if you think about the

1203
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 10: West Coast and East Coast beef all those years was

1204
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 10: complete stupidity, honestly, And to be part of that history

1205
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 10: and know that I have full range to go wherever

1206
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 10: I want, you know, and to see how the East

1207
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 10: was talking about the West and the West was talking

1208
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 10: about the East, and I you know, it's like it

1209
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 10: wasn't about where you were from. It was just like,

1210
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 10: why is this conflict? You know, it's just it made

1211
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 10: no sense because even when Biggie passed away, Biggie was

1212
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 10: in La looking to find property. He was really thinking

1213
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 10: about staying there, you know, at least getting a piece

1214
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 10: of property there, you know. And it's sad that this conflict,

1215
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 10: that what's going on, which to me is like guys fighting,

1216
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 10: little boys fighting in the playground in sand. You know.

1217
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 10: It was ridiculous. And to see Tupac pulled from the

1218
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 10: west to the side of his east history and then

1219
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 10: from the west and have to you know what I mean,

1220
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 10: find his way through that, and to see both of

1221
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 10: them pass away, it's just na.

1222
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: It was just where your friends were Big as well,

1223
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: were y'all cool?

1224
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, Me and Big later down the line we became friends,

1225
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 10: you know. Yeah, I'm very after that video, I said,

1226
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 10: after the video, like after the park video, it was.

1227
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: Almost too close to BIG's death.

1228
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 10: So but it's just sad, you know, I you know,

1229
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 10: to see hip hop now and just to see people

1230
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 10: not really acknowledging history, and at least to me.

1231
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 2: There's generations culture.

1232
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I really wish that we could turn

1233
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 10: back time, but it's impossible, you know, So we just

1234
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 10: got to learn from here and try to educate as

1235
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 10: even if they don't want to hear it, you got

1236
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 10: to push it down and force it down their throat,

1237
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 10: you know.

1238
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: So right now, are you indifferent to what hip hop

1239
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: culture is now? And do any of hip hop's current

1240
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: luminaries do they acknowledge you and your your existence?

1241
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: Or is it like what's the environment like for you now?

1242
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 10: Is it just like, you know, well, I'll always be

1243
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 10: hip hop you know inside me?

1244
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: Ho today?

1245
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, what they call hip hop today? I think, you know,

1246
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 10: you have some good stuff. I think back in the

1247
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 10: day you had more. Everything about hip hop was wonderful,

1248
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 10: you know. So now it's like certain people I like

1249
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 10: certain people I don't pay attention to. I listened to

1250
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 10: a lot of old school stuff. I love Kendrick Lamar.

1251
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 10: I think he's cool. You know it is there's a

1252
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 10: there's really not anybody moving in the unless I hear

1253
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 10: a song you know that goes, hey, this is who

1254
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 10: is that?

1255
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 9: You know?

1256
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: So you're not on your app every five seconds?

1257
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 10: Like let me get I'm a prince head, you know.

1258
01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: I really love that.

1259
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 10: So the truth And I like music honestly. I like

1260
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 10: music that makes you take your clothes. Yeah.

1261
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: Friends, Why the book is name Insatiable?

1262
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, it is one of the and there's a character

1263
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 10: in the book named Martha that yeah books. This is

1264
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 10: actually my first, but I actually have a whole collective

1265
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 10: series that coming out that I'm working with editor. Yeah, okay, yeah.

1266
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 11: Because it's interesting is you're writing these books, but then

1267
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 11: I'm hearing your story when it in regards to hip

1268
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 11: hop and it sounds like there's a lane there that

1269
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 11: you can I mean as well as well as what

1270
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 11: you're you're writing. But do you ever think about that,

1271
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 11: like really going over your life story as far as

1272
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 11: the hip hop lane and things?

1273
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 10: But that's the book you really could read that. It's

1274
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 10: like an urban Bookie Knights. It's Q, isn't it about?

1275
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: All Right?

1276
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 5: So speaking of BOOKI Knights, how I always now I

1277
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 5: have to ask a formal point star to get how

1278
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 5: authentic is that movie?

1279
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: Or like how true to life is it?

1280
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 10: That movie was touching? Yeah, you know what I like

1281
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 10: about that movie show that the dark versus always glorifying things,

1282
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 10: You know what I mean?

1283
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: Uh, do you think we glorify it too much as

1284
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: a society?

1285
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 10: Now? Yeah, to the point that ten year old girls

1286
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 10: are ready to be a porn stars and they don't

1287
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 10: understand that. It's like they're not even born to be that,

1288
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. It's like we're forcing it

1289
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 10: on them. And that's where I kind of I'm really

1290
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 10: about anything that's adult. I like it in an underworld.

1291
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 10: I like where we were at. You know, so you're segregated.

1292
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 11: You're not for these apps like the porn hubs, the

1293
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 11: back to get off.

1294
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 9: Though you said you're trying to get off.

1295
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 10: That the only one I'm trying to get off though,

1296
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 10: I'll go to my together.

1297
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 9: I think you're on some of those though. You know that, right,

1298
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 9: you get your money?

1299
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 2: Can you watch yourself?

1300
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1301
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: But do you watch with the critique?

1302
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 10: Like crazy? Even me? Yeah?

1303
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: So what is like? So? What is to you?

1304
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 5: What are staples of bad pornography? Like something that the

1305
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 5: average viewer would never even know?

1306
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 10: When a girl looks in the camera. I hate that? Okay,

1307
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 10: Oh that bothers me. You know. It's like, if you're

1308
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 10: gonna look in the camera and you look at me

1309
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 10: while you do say my name, and if you can't

1310
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 10: do that, then don't do it. I don't like when

1311
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 10: you're watching a video you know, I don't. I don't

1312
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 10: like when the girls look like they bored, like they

1313
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 10: look like they're thinking about shopping while the guy is

1314
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 10: fucking them.

1315
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: See now you would, you would critique it like we

1316
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: critique music.

1317
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: So it's mhm where you know, like someone's phoning it

1318
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: in from home, or they could have did that verse

1319
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: better or that sort of thing, right, someone can you

1320
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: tell them what to look for to know that someone's

1321
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: not into it or they're not into it.

1322
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 10: Or shows you yeah, because it shows that you know.

1323
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 5: Some game, Like how what are some of the tales

1324
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 5: we can see? Okay, she's bullshit and then well she's real,

1325
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 5: like she's really enjoying it.

1326
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 10: Pussy has to be wet.

1327
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 9: Okay, you can't even real quick And.

1328
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 10: Just nowadays, I know thise porn and we've been watching porn,

1329
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 10: right baby, watching poor lately. Yeah, we've just been watching

1330
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 10: a lot of porn.

1331
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: Porn.

1332
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 10: Even with the porn, it's like some of the they

1333
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 10: don't do that anymore. It seems like nobody's losing lub.

1334
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 10: So back in the days, we used to lose a

1335
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 10: lot of loop. But they're not doing it.

1336
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 9: How do you know they're not doing it?

1337
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 10: Though, because I'm watching I've been watching it lately and

1338
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 10: I go, Okay, what.

1339
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 2: It looks like?

1340
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, because I'm like, can they just pause tape.

1341
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: And then edit?

1342
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 11: You know, there's no pause and tape?

1343
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 10: Okay, Nay.

1344
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 8: How do you feel about the rise of amateur porn

1345
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 8: like people just you know, making homemade porn and putting

1346
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 8: it out there.

1347
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 10: That's the point that, honestly, I feel it's dangerous really

1348
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 10: just because you stop being regulated health wise, you know.

1349
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 10: And that's where I say it's just out of hand

1350
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 10: now because us you got Mom and Popper companies opening

1351
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 10: up and no one's really.

1352
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, your iPhone is a port, yeah going.

1353
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 10: Hey, we should these people should be tested and stopp

1354
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 10: being it's enforced. It's not happening, you know. Yeah.

1355
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,919
Speaker 11: Housewives parties, Yeah, yeah, that's this whole category.

1356
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 9: It's kind of crazy.

1357
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 5: When you talked about some of like the darker size

1358
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 5: of it, like the Boogie Knights address what were some

1359
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 5: dark parts for you?

1360
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 10: No, you know, it's it's too it's too too dark.

1361
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 10: It's not about dark, it's just too personal. But put

1362
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 10: it like this. I was on the set and something

1363
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 10: happened and I really didn't understand why no one was

1364
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 10: so sensitive about it, you know, and I got really

1365
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 10: upset and I kind of flipped out.

1366
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 5: Something happened to you, or something happened just to someone else,

1367
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 5: or just one something happened to me, you know.

1368
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: Is okay? Well out of the ass? Well?

1369
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,480
Speaker 1: Can I assume that this is more of a cultural understanding,

1370
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: because again I don't know.

1371
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 10: Okay, let's let's be real. I'm gonna be real with you.

1372
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 10: Could I say it enough? Wait? Does to sound stinky?

1373
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 10: I was on set, you know, and I caught my

1374
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 10: menstoration on set. Oh and it was a woman director

1375
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 10: and they want to continue doing the scene. Huh. And

1376
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 10: I'm looking at her like, what is wrong with you?

1377
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 10: Like everybody looking at me like I'm crazy. I'm like,

1378
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 10: I'm bleeding. Is what's wrong with y'all? And I'm looking

1379
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 10: at all these people like, oh, it's nothing. I'm like,

1380
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 10: something wrong with y'all? People, Clearly something is wrong with y'all.

1381
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 10: And she didn't. From woman to woman, I thought she

1382
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 10: would be a little bit more sensitive and a little

1383
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 10: bit more empathy. And I had to.

1384
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: Flip on her getting the shot and it.

1385
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 10: Was really really you know, and then I was just like, oh,

1386
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 10: this is really nasty. This is that. But it was

1387
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 10: like little things that would build up to go, Okay,

1388
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 10: this is not for me anymore. I'm really kind of

1389
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 10: I'm I'm taking things too personal now when this is

1390
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 10: a professional business.

1391
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 5: You feel me when you got when you got out,

1392
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 5: and you were saying earlier that you know, when you

1393
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 5: were in porn, you only dated porn stars. Yeah, so

1394
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 5: then when you got out, what was dating?

1395
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 10: Like, woo, immediately I got married. Someone scooped me up

1396
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 10: and married me.

1397
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: Got So, how long you guys got married?

1398
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 10: Yeah, immediately after I got up poorn, I think. I Yeah,

1399
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 10: I dated him for six months and I was married. Yeah.

1400
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 5: Oh and this is your I mean no, that was

1401
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 5: a long time ago.

1402
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: No.

1403
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 10: I was like, I was twenty one. I was twenty one,

1404
01:16:55,479 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 10: so I was only married for a year. Yeah, great, guys,

1405
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 10: but you were tired. Didn't know what I was doing.

1406
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 10: You know, great man, a credible person. You know, we're

1407
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 10: best friends to this day. But I was just too young,

1408
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 10: you know, I just got a porn I've never really

1409
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 10: had a real relationship before, so I was really and

1410
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 10: he was such a good person, a wonderful person. So

1411
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 10: you know, I just things happened too quickly, and I

1412
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 10: had to really understand the difference between relationships and not

1413
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 10: being not in a relationship, you know, physically, if I

1414
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 10: was learning my way through relationships, because all I was

1415
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 10: doing before was just performing and having sex. You know.

1416
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 5: So then once you guys got divorced and you went,

1417
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 5: I guess you started dating again.

1418
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 10: I started dating. What it was like getting on a

1419
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 10: bike and learning how to ride and falling off a

1420
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 10: couple of times, you know, until you got it right.

1421
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 10: And you know, I think I think even now, I'm

1422
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 10: forty seven years old, and I got it right nine

1423
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 10: years ago, you know, with my man now, and I

1424
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 10: finally could truly say that, you know, I'm really in

1425
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 10: love and I know the difference between love and lust.

1426
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 10: You guys, I hunted him down, I found him. I

1427
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 10: found him online.

1428
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 9: But it does work good. I'm doing that now, so

1429
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 9: that's good to know. Yeah, it's all right. You have

1430
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 9: friends in the room, because.

1431
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: It is not really the thing anywhere.

1432
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 10: Around its impressed with his talent. So that's how we met.

1433
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: I pressed with his talent.

1434
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 9: You can't just leave that out there like that.

1435
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 10: You gotous.

1436
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: Is he you work industry as well?

1437
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 10: Sleep online?

1438
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 9: It was amazing, it was sponte.

1439
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's first one in anyway.

1440
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 10: I couldn't like to stroke.

1441
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: Uestion. I thought it might be a DJ.

1442
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 8: You mentioned that in your You mentioned a minute ago

1443
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 8: about working with a bad experience working with a woman director.

1444
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 8: How many is it common to see women working behind

1445
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 8: the camera or not behind the camera, behind just behind

1446
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 8: the scenes in general and porn like that.

1447
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: It was very rare, very rare.

1448
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 10: Back then it was very rare. Now, yeah, there's a

1449
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 10: lot of women that are behind the camera. But back then,

1450
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 10: that's why I was thrown off.

1451
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 9: I'm like, yo, was that a woman of color? Did

1452
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 9: you went through that way? I was curious?

1453
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: No, no, Well, after your you're standing in the.

1454
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 10: Industry, criologized afterwards.

1455
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well all's well and as well. So after

1456
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: your run you signed the.

1457
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 10: Tommy Boy Records? Yeah Island Records than Tommy Boy?

1458
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, so what Yeah, at that point where

1459
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out, like, okay, what am I

1460
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: going to do for the rest of my life? Were

1461
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 1: pursuing pursuing pursuing passions or like what are your passions.

1462
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 10: I'm just just.

1463
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: What are you passionate about now?

1464
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: Like what is your well I know that you're deep

1465
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: into art photography, and like what are your passions now

1466
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,520
Speaker 1: that you're you're pursuing now your bucket lists.

1467
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 10: My books, you know, writing my photography books. I love shooting,

1468
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 10: so I have the photography business at my studio, and

1469
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 10: my documentary is important right now, I'm about to do

1470
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 10: my documentary and then the book that you're in that

1471
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 10: I have called The Unforgettable, I'm still working on that.

1472
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 10: So I'm closing out a lot of products right now and.

1473
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 9: The documentary of my life.

1474
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm ready to talk now. I'm actually really expressed

1475
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 10: with I'm very private person.

1476
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: And you're directing it yourself.

1477
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's kind of weird. Well, usually I'm having someone

1478
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 10: produce it, but I'm okay.

1479
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: I was going to saying, like just to have another

1480
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: voice in.

1481
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 10: The room, and I'm having somebody produce it. Yeah, but

1482
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 10: I'm putting it out as my own production. You know,

1483
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 10: I told myself and I said it not too long ago.

1484
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 10: If I'm going to sell my soul again, I want

1485
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:16,879
Speaker 10: to sell it to myself.

1486
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: You know, you felt like you said, your soul doing poor.

1487
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 10: You sell yourself every day for any you know.

1488
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: I sold my quest Yeah, and I sold my soda Pandora.

1489
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 9: My soul is not for sale.

1490
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: Transfer her now let me know in the next Luminati meeting.

1491
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: Send me a minute.

1492
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: When when do you when do you plan on wrapping it?

1493
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: And what would the story arc be of your documentary?

1494
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 10: Uh?

1495
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: And how much will you reveal to us in this

1496
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: documentary of your life?

1497
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 10: A lot? Okay, especially for someone who doesn't talk, so

1498
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 10: you know, you're not I have an idea's a lot of.

1499
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 2: So you're doing me a solid right now, or she's

1500
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:14,759
Speaker 2: just not saying.

1501
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,480
Speaker 10: No, I don't even do that many interviews you know anymore?

1502
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 2: Well, thank you.

1503
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 10: No. I feel whenever I feel comfortable and it's a

1504
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 10: vibe I do those type of interviews, I feel it,

1505
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 10: and I yeah, there's so much about me, you know,

1506
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 10: I hold so much inside me of so many people's lives,

1507
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 10: even my own, you know. But and it's so much

1508
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 10: respect that I have for people. But then there's there's

1509
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 10: things that I can share and I could talk about

1510
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 10: experiences I know that can help somebody else, someone can

1511
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 10: relate to, you know, and just so I could really

1512
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 10: get tired of people asking me about Tupac, you know,

1513
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 10: so I could really kind of touch a little bit

1514
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 10: closer on how I feel and just things.

1515
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: You know, did you have any children?

1516
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 10: I have a step son right now.

1517
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, anything uh like you that you I.

1518
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 11: Don't think it would be I have other questions, but

1519
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:15,480
Speaker 11: I don't think it'd be appropriate.

1520
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 10: I just asked the question.

1521
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: She's self policed in himself. That's that's I am.

1522
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 11: Because also I'll respect the fact that you've moved on

1523
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 11: and you've been retired for twenty years.

1524
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 10: Talk about so we can talk about like, h okay,

1525
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 10: let's fun.

1526
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: Let's y'all gonna have to exchange numbers.

1527
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 10: We keep it on.

1528
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 11: Blow listening to this is not listening to this episode

1529
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 11: with Jackie turned it off real quick, jack or Miss

1530
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 11: Jackie keeping on with tail the mirror that you turn

1531
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 11: it off.

1532
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 9: I wanted to well, I was going to ask you

1533
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 9: about the evolution because you talked about blow jobs.

1534
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 11: Oh my god, I just and so I just wanted

1535
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 11: to know. I want to get advice first, and it

1536
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 11: was interesting to me in the evolution of the blow job, right,

1537
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 11: I know, Superhead and she who Superhead was a big thing.

1538
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 9: I don't know if you remember, but the two handed

1539
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 9: thing or whatever. I just wanted to talk about that.

1540
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 5: Talk about I always thought she should have been superhands

1541
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 5: rather Superhead.

1542
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 9: And how did you feel about that?

1543
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 11: Because she had she did use both hands, but she

1544
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 11: was called superhead, you know what I mean.

1545
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 9: I don't know if you ever.

1546
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 10: You know, I actually never watched her.

1547
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Like I think when she left it it's like she

1548
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: says she's.

1549
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 9: Been watching porn the whole time.

1550
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 10: I just, you know, to me, Superhead wasn't poorn. You know.

1551
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 10: She was just a girl who just gave head. So

1552
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 10: I didn't really look at her as a pornal stuff.

1553
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 5: You know, do you have any new girls that you like?

1554
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 5: A new guys or girls that you like?

1555
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 10: I like Missy Stone, Okay, I really like her because

1556
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 10: I like when a girl is just bouncing and having

1557
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 10: a good time and just like she's enjoying that dick.

1558
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 11: You know, she's gonna ask you like favorite position situation

1559
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 11: that you like to watch?

1560
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 10: Yeah? I like dog. Okay, even now with the you

1561
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 10: were talking about the double hands, Yeah, but even this

1562
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 10: way is even double hand. It's just that's so traditional

1563
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 10: That's why it throwed me off that that was like

1564
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 10: a big you know, what is non traditional?

1565
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Heather?

1566
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 10: What is non traditional? If it was not non traditional,

1567
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 10: it's just a regular stroke. But to me, that's well,

1568
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 10: I guess I don't know. It's just for me. Is

1569
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 10: about suction.

1570
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 9: Okay.

1571
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 10: It's like if a woman could really create her mouth

1572
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 10: as a penis pump, then she's learned her technique.

1573
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 9: I'm sorry I had to take that in.

1574
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 10: Okay, think about it, Winds.

1575
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 2: Think about.

1576
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 9: Here's another question.

1577
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 11: Is there something that you because this is man, I

1578
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 11: wish you could really just advise and write a book

1579
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 11: on the list of things. Is there something for the

1580
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 11: blow job outside of your own natural hands, mouth.

1581
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 9: Or whatever that you would advise to help get results?

1582
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 11: You know some people Okay, I know this might sound antiquated,

1583
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 11: you know, but I'm gonna go Altoyd, I'm gonna go Ice,

1584
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go you know.

1585
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 9: I don't know about.

1586
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 2: That was Bill.

1587
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 9: I didn say pop rocks.

1588
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 11: This is we're on the blow jack. I need to

1589
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 11: put Is that a crazy question? How that that was crazy?

1590
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 9: I should I said, so, so what do you use other? Yes,

1591
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 9: there are there other things that you can advise to help.

1592
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 2: With the America requards.

1593
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 9: No tong row.

1594
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 10: He she has me stuck. I feel like I have

1595
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 10: one in my mouth right now.

1596
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 11: Tongue roll, because I learned that the tongue ring, the

1597
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,560
Speaker 11: tongue ring is not a guarantee when this is what

1598
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 11: I had one in college.

1599
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 9: That's really more of a male, a.

1600
01:26:58,600 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: Male, goddamn tongue.

1601
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 9: You wasn't looking in my mouth. No, I had it

1602
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 9: for like two years.

1603
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 10: But I mean, it's not for wolves, Okay, I don't

1604
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 10: even think it's about what you use. I pouring Loube

1605
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 10: in your mouth is a great thing, but I really

1606
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 10: think it's very important to think of your mouth as

1607
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 10: your vagina. Thank you. And if you can't master that,

1608
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 10: then you're giving the best head possible, you know. And

1609
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 10: I have to go back to being a good girl

1610
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 10: now because my man is in here and you know.

1611
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 9: Trying to figure how I'm trying to figureut how to

1612
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 9: make my mouth? How do you make your mouth?

1613
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: Keegel. Look, I'm taking over right now. I'm taking over

1614
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: my own.

1615
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 8: I have a question. It is actually kind of warming

1616
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 8: here right now. We briefly touched on on your music career,

1617
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 8: and I think we should get back to that. Your

1618
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 8: first releases were house music.

1619
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 10: Right, house music.

1620
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: Why didn't you start out with a hip hip hop? Yeah?

1621
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 10: At that time, I was really passionate in house because

1622
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 10: I was hanging out most of the house clubs and yeah,

1623
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 10: I was performing. And then Cookie Gonzalez came in saw

1624
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 10: my performance at Red Zone, and then I got a

1625
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 10: record deal and then we figured this. At that time,

1626
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 10: house music was big, you know, dance music, and I

1627
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 10: did really good with that track, hit the Billboard charts

1628
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 10: with that one. And where I left Ireland after I toured,

1629
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 10: I went to Tommy War Records, and that's where they

1630
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 10: messed up at me because they were trying to turn

1631
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 10: me into like Mary J. Blige and I really wasn't

1632
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 10: that and they really should have had me do hip

1633
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 10: hop at that time. And I got put on the

1634
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 10: shelf and they gave me all the rights to my

1635
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 10: music and I left Tommy Boy and then I decided

1636
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 10: to put out my own album because me and Nelly,

1637
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 10: actually Nelly taught me how to rhyme, and me and

1638
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 10: him was on tour before me putting out the album

1639
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 10: for like a year. He's doing put it in the

1640
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 10: mouth I'm rhyme into an m O P track and

1641
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 10: that was our show and we had strippers and midgets.

1642
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 10: It was on my and we toured year.

1643
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 5: Was that was that before you did the Premo Joint?

1644
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 5: Or was that was that that same album?

1645
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 10: That was that was before and then wait joint?

1646
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I thought you said that, Like no, I

1647
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:41,839
Speaker 2: thought you, like I did not know. Yeah, your website,

1648
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 2: so I figured that you probably would have.

1649
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 5: Seen you shot a video for that one, right you

1650
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 5: guys we shot.

1651
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 10: A video for the so Serious, So sincere I think, yeah,

1652
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 10: but yeah.

1653
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 2: In this industry wrapping.

1654
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 10: It was called freak Like.

1655
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, prey bo I always teach them about and.

1656
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 10: That's back to that's my boyfriend. Back at OQ, so

1657
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 10: I had a lot of people, all my friends wore support.

1658
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 10: They really want to see me do something different with

1659
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 10: my life. So whenever I want to do something, everybody like,

1660
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 10: come on, let's do it.

1661
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 2: That's dope.

1662
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,480
Speaker 10: So that's how I kind of have been very successful

1663
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,839
Speaker 10: as well in because I've gotten a lot of support

1664
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 10: from a lot of my friends that are hip hop pioneers, artists.

1665
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 2: Everything you know was mainstream film, something you ever wanted

1666
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 2: to do.

1667
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 10: Or I did a couple. I just made sure I

1668
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 10: was in ones that I really wanted to be in.

1669
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 10: I did American gang stuff.

1670
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 2: But you didn't have any You didn't have no desire

1671
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 2: to be like you know the next.

1672
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 5: No, okay, no, what advice would you give or pointers

1673
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 5: would you give to any girl point stars now that

1674
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 5: are looking to transition and get out the game, which

1675
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 5: is something that you've seen have done really well.

1676
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 10: But well, you have to give it up completely. You

1677
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 10: can't do both. It's impossible. Because they were telling me that,

1678
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 10: you know, I was trying, and then I got it.

1679
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 10: I realized I said, Okay, maybe I have to stop

1680
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 10: all the way completely to really be taken serious. But

1681
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 10: then at the same time, I'm still expressing myself in

1682
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 10: a you know, an erotic way and everything I do.

1683
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 10: So you just gotta be real with yourself. It's just like,

1684
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 10: and you gotta really I talked to many girls. They'd

1685
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 10: be like, I want to do this, I want to

1686
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 10: change my life, but the same day they still swinging

1687
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 10: on the poll. They ain't going nowhere, you know. So

1688
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 10: it's really something that you really want to change it.

1689
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 10: You got to stick to it, and you've got to

1690
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 10: really strip yourself from that money to learn how to

1691
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 10: make a totally different type of kind of money. It's

1692
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 10: a lot you really got to strip down. Because I

1693
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 10: literally stripped down from the porn, from touring, stripping all that.

1694
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 10: I had to give that up.

1695
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 5: So when you stop, you stop everything walk away.

1696
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 10: I had to stop because I knew there was nothing

1697
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 10: going to change if I didn't. And then thank God,

1698
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 10: you know, family friends, I just have a good support system.

1699
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 10: You know, I'm good to people, so it's a blessing

1700
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 10: that they're good to me. You know, it would be

1701
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 10: dope to see you get back in the talk show game.

1702
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 10: Do you ever think I'm gonna do a radio I'm

1703
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 10: gonna do a podcast shows. Yeah, I'm thinking about doing

1704
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 10: a podcast.

1705
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 2: You know.

1706
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 10: I'm just I get up and I just thank God, blessing,

1707
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 10: and I'm so appreciative that I can get up and

1708
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 10: just be myself and figure out what I'm gonna do

1709
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 10: the next day. You know, I'm at that point in

1710
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 10: life where nothing really I think the old I've gotten

1711
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 10: even just more success and just changed and I just

1712
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 10: don't really sweat. I just kind of enjoy life because

1713
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 10: you know, I'm learning as you lose people, it's a

1714
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 10: lot of people dying. You know, you realize you just

1715
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 10: gotta enjoy every minute. So whatever I'm gonna do, hopefully

1716
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,799
Speaker 10: people like it. They don't, I don't care because I'm happy,

1717
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 10: you know what I mean.

1718
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: So just just maybe we might have our seventh member

1719
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: of the Team Supreme. Anyway, Hunter, I want to thank

1720
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: you for everything.

1721
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 10: Fun I enjoyed you. Can I just say something? When

1722
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 10: I saw you at Brooklyn Ball, Yes, I thought it

1723
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 10: was adorable because I was at my my security guy

1724
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 10: and he was like, what are you doing? You're going

1725
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 10: straight up the DJ boof what are you doing? I'm

1726
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 10: going to say, hello, what are you doing? You're gonna

1727
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 10: You're not gonna know you what are you gonna do?

1728
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1729
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, pointed on him and at first he was like, what, oh,

1730
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 10: you know what I mean? And I just you know,

1731
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 10: I met you years ago. I don't know if you

1732
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 10: remember with Scott and Philly when you were in the studio.

1733
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,440
Speaker 10: I forgot that Scott was Yeah.

1734
01:33:55,479 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 2: I forgot Scott was in my group, damn.

1735
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 10: So he's really good. That's why when he was like,

1736
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 10: I know I know him from you know, so it's

1737
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 10: really a pleasure. I'm glad you want to come over

1738
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Speaker 10: here because this was fun and it's always going to

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01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 10: go talk about lack quarters. That's that was life.

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01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: Well, I think you is there anything that you've learned

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01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: this episode?

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01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 2: Bill, I'm I learned like he's a closet freak. Yes,

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01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it's closet.

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01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 9: I want to I want just looking for a suitor.

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01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: Uh, all right, we're gonna find we got to have

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01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: a fine like and and and unpaid.

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Speaker 2: Bill.

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Speaker 9: Oh no, he's good, he's good, he's good, he's good. Damn.

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Speaker 5: I guess I've just learned. You know, you just kind

1750
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 5: of you know, just hearing what the story. Uh, just

1751
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 5: the thing about just listening to yourself and just kind

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01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 5: of knowing when it's time to walk away, like when

1753
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 5: something just ain't if it's not feeding you no more,

1754
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 5: and if it's not, you just feel like, nah, I'm

1755
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 5: past this. And then also I guess giving yourself permission

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01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 5: to say that I can do something else. I think

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01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 5: it's a lot of people that you feel like, Okay, well,

1758
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 5: if I'm known as this, then there's no way I'm

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01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 5: ever going to be known as something else. But it

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01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 5: really ain't got nothing to do with other people. It

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01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 5: really is about you giving yourself that permission to say, nah,

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01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 5: I can do what I.

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01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 2: Want to do, you know what I mean? So now

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01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 2: that's it really is.

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01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 10: And you know how crazy this world is now, So

1766
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 10: just gotta be proud of who you are. I'm proud

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01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 10: of every aspect of my am.

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01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 2: She's really a big Prince fan.

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01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 8: It's a chapter in this book called Erratic City.

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Speaker 10: I'm a huge fan.

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01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 2: Yes, you are? You ever get to meet him?

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01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm saving that story. Yeah, that's going to my doc.

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01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 10: That's going to my document. Actually, do you like.

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01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Steve Dalmatian?

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Speaker 6: Steve, I'm sorry, yeah, no, I mean you're really lovely

1776
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 6: and cool.

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01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 10: Thank you.

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01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 6: I found it interesting that the nicest person she met

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01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 6: in her life was named Goldberg. I learned that talking

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01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 6: about blow jobs with Lightdy in the room was as

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01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 6: disappointing as I.

1782
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 2: Thought it was.

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01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 9: You could have added said something.

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01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 6: And I have one question. So if you're on forty three,

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01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 6: I was on twenty three. If I heard you were

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01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 6: having a party and I came up and heard the music,

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01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 6: I knocked on the door, would you have let me?

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01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, okay, Ship.

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01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 10: Everybody was coming people come from the.

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01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 2: Floor except for Stephen.

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Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, I have nothing raunchy.

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01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 11: I actually I learned a few things I was to say.

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01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 11: Number one, I learned that it's dope that if you

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01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 11: are a dope individual and you demand respect, you will

1795
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 11: continue to get it. Because I just think that's amazing

1796
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 11: that all those men, those mcs, no matter what you did,

1797
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 11: respected what you did and respect who you were as

1798
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 11: a person, also thought it was dope that you've done

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01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 11: like twenty thousand things. So I've learned that let's try

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01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 11: to do as much as we think that we can,

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01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 11: because you never know what you can and cannot do.

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01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 11: And she used my mother my mouth as a coochie.

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01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, should.

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01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 9: I should have known that?

1805
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 6: Find it.

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01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: I've learned that we could never let light Year get

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Speaker 1: the last guy you.

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01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Word on my shelf.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen on behalf of light yea who might

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Speaker 1: be back next.

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Speaker 2: Time or might not?

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Speaker 1: Or the twenty third floor who was Bossville fan Ciccolo,

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01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,759
Speaker 1: Unveville and have the Hunter.

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Speaker 2: This is quest Love, signing off. We will hopefully see

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Speaker 2: you on the next go.

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