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Speaker 1: was a team that was one hundred and twenty third

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Speaker 1: penalties last year and they were ninety seventh in turnovers committed,

427
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Speaker 1: and I had producer Jesse go back and run the numbers.

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Speaker 1: We're good, Colin. That doesn't really bode well if you're

429
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Speaker 1: trying to win a conference championship, Tennessee. Very simple here,

430
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Speaker 1: very simple, the evolution of Nico Iamaliava at quarterback. This

431
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Speaker 1: is one of those conversations you used to not have,

432
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Speaker 1: but you have it now, and it sounds like this,

433
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Speaker 1: we've invested a lot of money in this kid. We've

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Speaker 1: got to get better production out of him. In reality,

435
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Speaker 1: I think you and I both know you're capable of

436
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Speaker 1: what you're capable of. But if you pay someone a

437
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Speaker 1: lot of money, sort of the societal expectation is you've

438
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Speaker 1: got to produce in direct correlation with what we pay you,

439
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Speaker 1: which means if you paid me five times what I

440
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: get paid right now, I should do five times the

441
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Speaker 1: show I do right now. Right No, I'm doing the

442
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Speaker 1: best I can right now. It doesn't matter how much

443
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: more you pay me. I wouldn't turn it down, but

444
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: it's unrealistic to expect five times the performance level. Well

445
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's quite that crazy at Tennessee, but

446
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: they do need to get better. They were seventy seventh

447
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: than pass yards per game last year. He got held

448
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Speaker 1: under two hundred yards in eight of thirteen games they played.

449
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Speaker 1: And that offensive line's losing. It's over one hundred and

450
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Speaker 1: sixty starts combined. That that offensive line loses, so very

451
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Speaker 1: important spring at Tennessee. South Carolina, that's another one. You know,

452
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Speaker 1: Leonora Sellers popped on the scene last year South Carolina

453
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Speaker 1: right on the border of being a playoff team. So

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Speaker 1: you I think the preview magazine culture would lead you

455
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Speaker 1: to believe that Lenora's Sellers became a household name. Last

456
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Speaker 1: year South Carolina almost made the playoff. Now he's back,

457
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: they'll take the next step just kind of the tumblers

458
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Speaker 1: all fall into place. That's not how sports work, It's

459
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Speaker 1: not how college football works, not how life works. So

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Speaker 1: I'll grant you Sellers as a special player, and I've

461
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Speaker 1: got no problem believing in the energy and the buy

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Speaker 1: in and all that from South Carolina's program. But they

463
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Speaker 1: returned about fifty percent of their production on defense. So

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Speaker 1: that's first thing I'd be watching around there this spring.

465
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Speaker 1: And then the second thing is is Nick Harbor a

466
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Speaker 1: legitimate wide receiver one in the SEC? And what kind

467
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Speaker 1: of depth do they have beyond him at wide receiver?

468
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Speaker 1: Just a couple of things I'm watching in Columbia, Texas

469
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage man four offensive line starters with forty

470
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Speaker 1: plus starts are gone, but they recruit very well. Defensive

471
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Speaker 1: line lost four contributors. They're gone, but they recruit very well.

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Speaker 1: You obviously got the arch manning thing. But what kind

473
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Speaker 1: of stress does being unproven on the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: put on the quarterback position? And what kind of stress

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Speaker 1: does it put on the secondary? Those are things that

476
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Speaker 1: you start to watch as much as you can in spring.

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Speaker 1: They are watching as I take a quick time out

478
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Speaker 1: to tell you they're watching us in a law in Oklahoma,

479
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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Missouri, Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. We appreciate it

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Speaker 1: as always. Uh, take a quick sip of water. I

481
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: think we got time for that. I'm telling you all

482
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Speaker 1: kinds of protocols are in place with director Colin. If

483
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: I do need to sort of just dump out for

484
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Speaker 1: a second and clear the throat and blow the nose.

485
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Speaker 1: But so far, so good. Colin. It's a solid wood

486
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Speaker 1: desk that I'm knocking on. But we continue Spring questions.

487
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Speaker 1: You know what that means. That means Spring intel is

488
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: coming next week and that's next to fall camp intel.

489
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Speaker 1: That's some of the funnest segments we do all year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: more spring questions here, Penn State. Most obvious question in

491
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Speaker 1: the world. What are you going to be a wide receiver?

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Speaker 1: What is this a segment from the last five years? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty much so elsewhere I'm good if I'm PennState. I

494
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Speaker 1: got four or five offensive lineman return in. I got

495
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Speaker 1: two top ten tails returning I am. I'm gonna be

496
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Speaker 1: good where I'm normally good. I'm losing Tyler Warren. But

497
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Speaker 1: in the in the net, I'm gonna be okay, I think,

498
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: except that the last two seasons, at the end of

499
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Speaker 1: the season, I've lost my top wide receiver to the

500
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Speaker 1: portal and I just did again. I don't know what

501
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: the post spring portal window is gonna look like, but

502
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: they they have got to be in there. They have

503
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: to be the shark fin in there looking for receivers.

504
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: Wisconsin hadn't talked about them in a second, but they've

505
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Speaker 1: They've tried to go quarterback in the portal a couple

506
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Speaker 1: of times, and it just has not worked. Tarner Mordecai

507
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: not really. Tyler van Dyk got hurt early last year.

508
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: Now they're going for it again. Billy Edwards. For those

509
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: of you not keeping trackies from Maryland, I I he

510
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Speaker 1: six four is to twenty. He started fourteen games during

511
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Speaker 1: three seasons at Maryland. Where are they going? I did

512
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Speaker 1: not expect to be asking this question in year three.

513
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: Luke Fickall was very excited when they hired him. I

514
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Speaker 1: haven't sold all my stock or anything, but I just

515
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Speaker 1: I kind of feel about Fickle like I did, but

516
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: in an opposite way about Lincoln Riley. I thought when

517
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Speaker 1: Riley got to usc maybe at the outset he hired

518
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: the wrong guys defensively. Maybe Fickle went the wrong direction offensively.

519
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'd agree with that, but it

520
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: just kind of feels that way from the outside. So

521
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Speaker 1: where are they going? Ohio State kind of a similar

522
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: vibe to Texas year they replaced so much on that

523
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Speaker 1: defensive line. But they've got guys there. It's always going

524
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Speaker 1: to be the follow up with programs like that. Edric Houston,

525
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: he's there. Kenyatta Jackson, he's there. Just because they hadn't

526
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Speaker 1: put up all American stats doesn't mean they can't. It's

527
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Speaker 1: because there have been studs in front of them, so

528
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: they hadn't been pressed into duty yet. Offensive line is

529
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Speaker 1: interesting too, so they got four starters gone there. You

530
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Speaker 1: always get benefit of the doubt. Because you're Ohio State,

531
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Speaker 1: you get benefit of the doubt. Cousier Texas. Ironically, look

532
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Speaker 1: who they play in Week one and that's not a

533
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Speaker 1: preseason game. Kids, we don't have that in college football

534
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Speaker 1: Texas in Columbus, Ohio for Week one. What about the

535
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Speaker 1: University of Iowa quarterback this year? Does anyone know? Does

536
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Speaker 1: anyone know? Does anyone know? Who transferred from South Dakota

537
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Speaker 1: State to Iowa? I actually, knowing our audience, several of

538
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Speaker 1: you probably know Mark Gronowski. What do we expect there?

539
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Speaker 1: And no matter who it is, Okay, he's played for

540
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Speaker 1: a while, he was he was at South Dakota State.

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Speaker 1: I know goodwell, you didn't watch him last year. I

542
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Speaker 1: didn't either, same question every year in spring for Iowa.

543
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Speaker 1: Is there a chance that we get incrementally better offensively?

544
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Speaker 1: Because I know what we have on the other side,

545
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Speaker 1: So are we gonna be Iowa again? Or are we

546
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Speaker 1: going to be Iowa with the offense turned up a

547
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Speaker 1: little bit? That's what gets us to Indianapolis. Michigan obviously obviously,

548
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: and obviously the quarterback position. You got Mikey Kean there.

549
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: So the floor's fairly high, but the ceiling being as

550
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: tall as it is is because you've got Bryce Underwood,

551
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: number one player in the country, true freshmen. All of

552
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: that will be talked about from now until Week one

553
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: and beyond. But they're replacing a lot of defensive line production.

554
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Had no real production at wide receiver last year. So

555
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Speaker 1: that's a couple of the things that I'll watch at Michigan.

556
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Speaker 1: That quarterback thing, that's going to be one of the

557
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: stories of college football. And at Oregon. You know how,

558
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: for a long time, with the power programs out there,

559
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: you've gotten yourself into the habit of saying, oh, they

560
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: don't rebuild, they just reload. Is Oregon there they think

561
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Speaker 1: they are? I kind of think they are. This is

562
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Speaker 1: where we're going to start to find out they are

563
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Speaker 1: not in the top one hundreds in returning production on

564
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Speaker 1: either offense or defense. They yeah, players all over the place,

565
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: just kind of unproven. Dante Moore starting at quarterback for him,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of him. I think a lot

567
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Speaker 1: of his potential. There are a lot of names that

568
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I think a lot of They just have to prove

569
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Speaker 1: it there. Organ's kind of worked themselves into the spot

570
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Speaker 1: where they get benefit of the doubt from me on this.

571
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Speaker 1: But that's kind of what it's kind of in totality

572
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Speaker 1: the question I'm asking about them, You know, are they

573
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Speaker 1: like closer to a team that fluctuates wildly or is

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Speaker 1: it going to be more like a Georgia or more

575
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Speaker 1: like an Ohio State, more like a Bama under Saban

576
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Speaker 1: where even though you didn't know the names in spring,

577
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: you just kind of knew they're good for ten wins plus.

578
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Speaker 1: Is that Organ? I think it is. But we're going

579
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Speaker 1: to start to find out Quick Trip you want to

580
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: find out about life, about how to fuel yourself in

581
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: every way possible. Stop by Quick Trip exclusive fuel provider

582
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: of the show be fueling us off Spring. We were

583
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: in Texas last week. Who knows where we'll be this

584
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: week stormchasing towards the end of the week, could be

585
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: in multiple states or sty the plural of states. So yeah,

586
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: I see a lot of quick Trip in our future,

587
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: and we're happy to have him aboard. Thank you, quick Trip.

588
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: Let's move along, mystery. I'm gonna do it again for you, Colin.

589
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Here we go, mystery intrigue. Which teams am I describing

590
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: this year? I think I'm describing Texas A and M.

591
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: That's one of the most mysterious teams in college football

592
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: this year. Offensive line returning production there, it looks good.

593
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: I was in their building last week. Colin Klein is

594
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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator there, so he walks by, talked to

595
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Speaker 1: him for a little while. I said, Man, a lot

596
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: of guys that played a lot of football on offensive

597
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: line where you haven't. They said, Man, you have no clue.

598
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: How much more clearly those lines on those plays you

599
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: draw up, How much better and more crisp they look.

600
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Speaker 1: When you got a solid offensive line to make it happen.

601
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: They got healthy running back. Do you remember Levion Moss,

602
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: Ruben Owens, You remember those guys are still there and healthy.

603
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: Presumably if Marcel read at the quarterback position, if he

604
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Speaker 1: even just does an average elevation job in terms of development,

605
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: could be a good team. They're set up for success offensively,

606
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: really good upside there, it's just what do you have defensively?

607
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: And then also still still feels like the program is

608
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: settling in under Mike Elko. So like is year two

609
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: the year that happens? Is year three the year that happens?

610
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Speaker 1: Does it happen? That's a mystery team. That's why they're

611
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Speaker 1: in the segment right now. Utah. I mentioned this at

612
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Speaker 1: the beginning. It's a paper thump. Utah went five and

613
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Speaker 1: seven last year. That's the first losing season they've had

614
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: since twenty thirteen. Kyle Whittingham is so good when you

615
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Speaker 1: are in the situation they are, which is they don't

616
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Speaker 1: recruit at a high level. They go after a different

617
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: kind of kid. They trust their eval and development so

618
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: much that they don't even bother really going after four

619
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Speaker 1: and five star guys. They get a few of them,

620
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: but they're not a top twenty, top twenty five recruiting program.

621
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Speaker 1: That should mean every now and then you have a

622
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Speaker 1: down year. They have it just remarkable. So they finally

623
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Speaker 1: did last year, seventy two percent of their offensive production returns.

624
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what quarterback looks like there right now,

625
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: but they had shake up at the offensive coordinator spot.

626
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Speaker 1: There's a there's a large part of me that's just screaming,

627
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Speaker 1: hey man, Winningham's not going to have that team perform

628
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: that way. Two years in a row, two four six,

629
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Speaker 1: they are eighth, well tied for seventh. I guess in

630
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Speaker 1: the odds to win the Big Twelve Championship, which kind

631
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Speaker 1: of means nothing because routinely win the thing from outside

632
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Speaker 1: the top ten. Michigan State. I mean question here, here's

633
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Speaker 1: a good question. It's open ended. What has Jonathan Smith

634
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Speaker 1: been up to? What's happening in n East Lansing? Like,

635
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: has anyone heard lately? Heavy portal team? They leaned heavily

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Speaker 1: on the portal. Nick marsh is a really good wide

637
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to put into words. I'm getting chills here.

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Speaker 2: And you say all that just because I know how

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Speaker 2: big this year was to so many generations of fans

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Speaker 2: see that day again. You know when that story happened,

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681
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Speaker 2: That's kind of defined our program. We lost a generation

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683
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684
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Speaker 2: was one and two wins every year. You're not going

685
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Speaker 2: to really solicit a lot of fans when you're not winning,

686
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Speaker 2: and so to have ourselves now where it's cool to

687
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688
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689
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Speaker 2: To me, it closes that chapter on SMU's history.

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Speaker 1: So last year they played for the conference championship, came

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Speaker 1: he said, does Nebraska break their ceiling from last year

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Speaker 1: The win total this year is seven and a half. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just wild to think about. So I think it's safe

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Speaker 1: People are polarized on Matt Rule. Some folks love him,

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Speaker 1: But I asked him about this last couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I think it was when we had him on the show,

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Speaker 1: and he made special mention of this, like he's very,

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Speaker 1: very keenly aware. It's not year one where I do it.

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Speaker 1: It may not even be year two, but as director

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Speaker 1: Colin will play for you here, year three, it could happen.

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Speaker 1: You guys had not even had Bowl practices or had

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Speaker 1: a bowl game since what was it, twenty sixteen up

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Speaker 1: until last year, So you make a bowl last year

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Speaker 1: that used to be caused for minor celebration and now

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Speaker 1: it's Nebraska. Were they in the playoff?

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Speaker 3: No? All right, next, Yeah, we're proud of what we did.

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Speaker 3: It's a good first step. You look at my history,

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Speaker 3: So I'm not really you know, hey, come and win

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Speaker 1: Though, So he's not just saying that you go and

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Speaker 1: look what he did at Temple. It's there year three, Baylor,

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Speaker 1: it's there year three now. That didn't guarantee anything this year.

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Speaker 1: Those defensive staff losses are going to be tough to replace.

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Speaker 1: But in the overall aggregate a word I'm trying to use,

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Speaker 1: then look at their schedule. We've got it rated fourteenth

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Speaker 1: Don't know? They get Michigan State at home after a

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Speaker 1: I think, going by Matt rules track record, that's fair

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Speaker 1: this year. If I were up in North Platte or

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Speaker 1: North Platte for some reason. And you're saying we ought

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Speaker 1: to win eight or more this year, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It's a little shorter show tonight, but that's only because

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Speaker 1: I hope it made sense. If it did, Direct Colin

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