Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, is there even a such thing as
Speaker 1: a mister right? Well? Our guest in studio today says yes,
Speaker 1: but my co host says, she's still looking for him,
Speaker 1: and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rose.
Speaker 1: You're still looking for him?
Speaker 2: Uh? I mean I think I'm looking right at him.
Speaker 1: You're looking at him or looking for him?
Speaker 2: This at him, not for him, at him? And I
Speaker 2: was never looking for him. He just was there all along.
Speaker 1: No one, come on now, wait, in all of your
Speaker 1: was there site at some point in your mind? At
Speaker 1: some point your dating life? I know you kind of
Speaker 1: had a couple of long marriages, but did you have
Speaker 1: a mindset growing up that there is a mister right
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: Oh? My god, Yes, you know how much I love
Speaker 2: my rom coms and all of my you know, Disney
Speaker 2: movies and Broadway musicals where in the end and Jane Austen,
Speaker 2: where everything works out and you find your man. Yes,
Speaker 2: of course I wanted that. Of course I thought that
Speaker 2: was out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, now tell me what is your definition? And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying like put me into that category, but what
Speaker 1: generally would you think women are talking about when they
Speaker 1: say there is a mister right or is that different
Speaker 1: for everybody?
Speaker 2: No? I actually don't think it is. I think I
Speaker 2: think for women, we want somebody who supports us, somebody
Speaker 2: who is attracted to us. We want somebody who loves
Speaker 2: us even when we're at our worst and can like
Speaker 2: us when we're at our best. Yeah. I think that
Speaker 2: sums it up.
Speaker 1: Is that everybody's missus right as well? I mean, is
Speaker 1: that that sounds like something that's in human nature versus
Speaker 1: this is not a mad woman thing?
Speaker 2: Probably not? But only you could tell me that.
Speaker 1: What did you say?
Speaker 2: I was?
Speaker 1: I can't even read my own handwriting? The first thing
Speaker 1: supports us, yes, attracted to us yep, loves us at
Speaker 1: our words, at our worst ours, and likes us at
Speaker 1: our best, at our best. Okay, Yeah, I think everybody
Speaker 1: is looking for that thing. Then why is it so difficult?
Speaker 1: Is it difficult to find that person you're looking for?
Speaker 1: Or you might get exactly what you're looking for, and
Speaker 1: then you air in how you go about the relationship,
Speaker 1: because getting the right person does that mean you're in
Speaker 1: the right relationship? Getting the right person does that mean
Speaker 1: now you're in a forever relationship?
Speaker 2: I think if you're with the other person who's in
Speaker 2: it and committed to going through the moments when you
Speaker 2: don't necessarily like the person you love. That's where the
Speaker 2: trouble ensues. When I said love us when we're at
Speaker 2: our worst, I think that's the ding ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 2: I think that's the tough part. I think that's when
Speaker 2: it gets hard. I think that's when people say the
Speaker 2: rest of it isn't good enough to support that, whatever
Speaker 2: it is. But I think for me that is the
Speaker 2: telltale sign.
Speaker 1: You think I love you at your worst?
Speaker 2: That's TBD.
Speaker 1: So I haven't seen your worst.
Speaker 2: No, I think you've see my worst. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if you love me when I'm at my worst?
Speaker 1: You know what is Tell me what it is?
Speaker 2: I've experienced your expression of your reaction to it.
Speaker 1: No, No, what is you? What is it? You at
Speaker 1: your worst? It's what I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, Probably me saying something not so nice and
Speaker 2: walking away. I don't That hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: It happened once.
Speaker 2: It did happen once.
Speaker 1: It was a dramatic exit.
Speaker 2: Happened once though, And did you still love me? No?
Speaker 1: No, the love is never a question. The love is
Speaker 1: never questioned, it's only about the like so all we're
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm holding in my hand a book and
Speaker 1: the title of that book is how to attract the
Speaker 1: right guy, avoid situationships, step into wifey energy, and get
Speaker 1: him to commit.
Speaker 2: I think that's what a lot of women want.
Speaker 1: How many years ago could you have used.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe from the beginning. This started very early for me.
Speaker 2: I was engaged at twenty one. Wow, yes, maybe I
Speaker 2: just from twenty two, Yeah, i'd engaged, same with you.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I was married by the age of twenty
Speaker 1: three first the.
Speaker 2: Same twenty three first marriage. Wow. Notice we both said
Speaker 2: first marriage. So yes, I think, yes, I could have
Speaker 2: used this book for.
Speaker 1: Our Gunsden studio. Now we are obviously we have some
Speaker 1: relationship experience and a lot of people out there no
Speaker 1: matter what, whatever relationship you're in, I think we could
Speaker 1: all use some council. And if you're looking for relationship,
Speaker 1: we could all use some kind of counsel in some way,
Speaker 1: form or fashion. So it's cool to be able to
Speaker 1: talk to someone who is now in the business of
Speaker 1: getting people together. And Talia we Met is the name. Yes,
Speaker 1: Talia we Met. Her last name is we Met, and
Speaker 1: she's now a relationship.
Speaker 2: Experts, w e me et like you might think, No,
Speaker 2: it's so much cooler than that. It's so French. It's
Speaker 2: oh you I et we met like we we we?
Speaker 1: Yeah. So she's a matchmaker author as well and in
Speaker 1: the studio with us. Can can we start with that?
Speaker 1: Is there a mister right? Should every woman that you
Speaker 1: do coach?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Do you tell them there is a mister right for you?
Speaker 1: And what is that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's a mister right. And every time you give
Speaker 3: your energy to mister wrong, you're missing out on mister right.
Speaker 3: So I think we have to get really good at
Speaker 3: cutting these bad guys out that are breadcrumbing you so
Speaker 3: that you can continue to attract mister right.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: Because Okay, I was gonna say, does everybody in the
Speaker 1: room understand where that is? What is the break?
Speaker 3: Yes? Red crumbing? Okay, so it's trending right now. Breadcrumbing
Speaker 3: is when someone's giving you a lot of attention and
Speaker 3: they kind of pull away because they're seeing other people.
Speaker 3: But then they feel you pulling away, so they throw
Speaker 3: you a little bit of attention to real you back in.
Speaker 3: But they're still seeing so many other people, so they're
Speaker 3: kind of playing like hot cold, hot cold. It's very toxic.
Speaker 3: We don't like break crumbing.
Speaker 2: But as soon as you say it, every woman who's
Speaker 2: gone through that understands exactly what you meant. I have
Speaker 2: a question. Is there just one mister right or could
Speaker 2: there be a mister right now? I mean, as a matchmaker,
Speaker 2: I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Step out here, tell ya apparently this is not my podcast.
Speaker 2: God geez, you are here. My T shirt that says
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: I can explain that story. But tellia you good with
Speaker 1: your answer?
Speaker 3: You know, as imagine me as a dating coach, I
Speaker 3: am all for mister right, not mister right now. I
Speaker 3: do think that people come and come into your life
Speaker 3: first season, you know, for a reason as well, But
Speaker 3: overall you're looking for a mister right and you're looking
Speaker 3: for the one.
Speaker 1: So does the problem though? I know you get people together,
Speaker 1: but how much of the success of the relationship. I
Speaker 1: guess a they two different things. Can you be a
Speaker 1: good match but then end up being mates? Is that
Speaker 1: possible that on paper and everything you look good like
Speaker 1: they should work and then something changes after a marriage
Speaker 1: takes place.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so now those are kind of two different things.
Speaker 3: Now I have seen two matches. We're on paper, it
Speaker 3: looks perfect. You know, both devoted Christians, both love golden retrievers,
Speaker 3: both blah blah blah, come from the same family type whatever.
Speaker 3: But then energetically, I just know that their sense of
Speaker 3: humor won't be in alignment. And so I do think
Speaker 3: energy comes into a huge play. You know, is she
Speaker 3: and her feminine? Is he in his masculine? Like if
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different things. So on paper, it
Speaker 3: could be a great match, but then the chemistry's off.
Speaker 2: Okay, you said a lot more to it. You said energy,
Speaker 2: and this was something I was reading your book and
Speaker 2: I was looking at your Instagram page and you talk
Speaker 2: to women. Correct me if I'm wrong, if I say
Speaker 2: this incorrectly, but that they should be channeling their feminine
Speaker 2: energy versus their boss lady energy. Explain why, Oh, I.
Speaker 3: Love that question, because every man loves a feminine woman.
Speaker 3: The feminine The feminine woman will win every time. And
Speaker 3: it's so easy, you know, especially being an entrepreneur. I
Speaker 3: share my books, some personal stories, and it's so easy
Speaker 3: to stay in your masculine because you're working hard and
Speaker 3: you're constantly meetings and blah blah, blah. But you have
Speaker 3: to learn how to turn it off. And I give
Speaker 3: all my tips and tricks in the book on how
Speaker 3: to tap back into that feminine because it can go
Speaker 3: back and forth throughout the day. You just have to
Speaker 3: know when to turn it off. Because men aren't looking
Speaker 3: to come home from their workday and go on a
Speaker 3: date with a woman who only wants to talk about
Speaker 3: worker who's very in her masculine in that moment, he
Speaker 3: wants a feminine girl.
Speaker 1: Well, you got to help me with this one here, fly,
Speaker 1: because I assume some people might take issue with telling
Speaker 1: a woman to turn it off turn it on to
Speaker 1: almost appease whatever we men might have in our minds
Speaker 1: about what the feminine or delicate or weaker sex how
Speaker 1: they should behave. So help us work through that part
Speaker 1: where a woman hearing I got to turn something off
Speaker 1: or or be more feminine to cater to this dude,
Speaker 1: or no, or just being.
Speaker 3: Your feminine all the time. But that's hard, Like how
Speaker 3: are you going to work a boardroom and being your
Speaker 3: feminine the entire time? That's tough. So that's why I'm
Speaker 3: saying it's it's truly a balance. No, when to tap
Speaker 3: into it's so important as a business woman, as an entrepreneur.
Speaker 3: I know one I have to turn on my mask
Speaker 3: and to be taken seriously in a room, and I
Speaker 3: also know when it turned on my feminine, dainty side.
Speaker 1: So tell you I went to almost apologize. Well, I apologize,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, you're saying it from this it works.
Speaker 2: Well, you're saying for like every.
Speaker 3: Woman I've ever worked with who's a CEO of a
Speaker 3: fortune five hundred company is not thriving on these DIDs.
Speaker 3: And I empathize with her because I was her. I
Speaker 3: lost my feminine energy and I talk about it in
Speaker 3: my book, and I'm like, listen, if you once had it,
Speaker 3: it can come back. You just have to be self aware.
Speaker 1: A lot of women get that. So I'm sitting from
Speaker 1: a different position to where I again, I can only
Speaker 1: compare it to an African American who knows how to
Speaker 1: almost code switch is what we call it. You behave
Speaker 1: this way in front of this audience in the boardroom,
Speaker 1: and then you go back to being yourself. You're speaking
Speaker 1: from it to where it might to some on the
Speaker 1: outside even or might to say it out loud, seems
Speaker 1: like offensive. But this is what you all deal with
Speaker 1: and talk about all the time. This is reality for
Speaker 1: women that from my seat I don't get.
Speaker 3: And look, I've done both, so I can speak to
Speaker 3: I wasn't thriving. I'm talking about when I was single
Speaker 3: in New York, and I talk about in my book
Speaker 3: and make sure all my dating stories how the second
Speaker 3: that I hit the jackpot of I had lost that
Speaker 3: feminine energy and I was coming into these dates with
Speaker 3: the masculine energy. That's when things weren't thriving. And the
Speaker 3: second I switched my energy back to feminine when I
Speaker 3: was on the dates. So you know, the proof is
Speaker 3: in the pudding. That's all I can tell you. And
Speaker 3: I give all my tricks because there are little things
Speaker 3: you can do on you know, when you get home
Speaker 3: to just kind of get back in that feminine flow.
Speaker 2: Tal you, does it feel manipulent? It all? Like I'm
Speaker 2: just I'm thinking about because I'm I'm interested to come
Speaker 2: into it because obviously I've always had that that probably
Speaker 2: that boss lady energy. You were my friend when I
Speaker 2: had boss lady energy.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh you're a sweetye pie.
Speaker 2: Your obviously do it. You know that's not true.
Speaker 1: I just want to save you all the time, but
Speaker 1: you still.
Speaker 2: You still This is interesting though, Like I'm curious. I
Speaker 2: didn't even think to Obviously, I've been married a lot,
Speaker 2: so I wasn't dating that much while I was in
Speaker 2: my business world. But I'm curious actually listening to you.
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying, but I'm asking you, TJ
Speaker 2: as a man, where you turned off at all, because
Speaker 2: you would definitely say I had more of the boss
Speaker 2: lady energy and less of the feminine energy around you.
Speaker 1: What is the thing I say to you all the time?
Speaker 1: You are such a sweetheart. I wish other people knew that.
Speaker 1: And really she's a She's this tender, she's sweet and
Speaker 1: that feminine energy maybe you speak of, but as a
Speaker 1: colleague and saying her around the studio for so long,
Speaker 1: nobody has any clue about the person I know. And
Speaker 1: that's what your.
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying. You're saying that sometimes women we
Speaker 2: have to be That's I've never thought about it like that,
Speaker 2: And you have.
Speaker 3: Come to who you really are. That's the truth. And
Speaker 3: you know what else I've noticed because I also host
Speaker 3: women workshops, and what I've also noticed is that even
Speaker 3: when you're in a marriage and you're in a relationship,
Speaker 3: sometimes you lose that femininity because sometimes like your husband's
Speaker 3: gone for the entire waks, so you're the one taking
Speaker 3: out of try. You're doing all these masculine things because femininity,
Speaker 3: down to one word, is receiving. That's one word. It's receiving.
Speaker 3: It's about receiving. And so when you're in your masculine
Speaker 3: for so long in a marriage or in a relationship,
Speaker 3: sometimes you lose that. So you have to constantly check
Speaker 3: in with yourself. And also, by the way, for the
Speaker 3: man's side too. You know, the man needs to stain
Speaker 3: his masculine because we as femine, most of us are
Speaker 3: not looking for a feminine man, you know, we want
Speaker 3: we want to protect and provide her. So it goes
Speaker 3: both ways.
Speaker 2: Tell you, I'm kind of blown away because I understand
Speaker 2: everything you're saying.
Speaker 1: Oh I love, but you're a blown away that she's
Speaker 1: saying it.
Speaker 2: I am. So that's where I'm That's where I'm going next.
Speaker 2: I'm blown away that you're saying it. Do you get
Speaker 2: a lot of pushback? A lot of people who take
Speaker 2: offense to what you're saying about these stereotypical gender roles.
Speaker 3: No, because people are starting to finally say, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: like Bob switch, this is why my relationship is not
Speaker 3: working out, or this is why I'm not thriving and dating.
Speaker 3: And the second they do that little sweage, they're sending
Speaker 3: me dms. I don't even know these people, and they're like, Talia,
Speaker 3: what you just said in that real change my entire
Speaker 3: dating life. What you wrote in that book, change my
Speaker 3: entire dating life. So I've had no pushback so far. Really,
Speaker 3: really you?
Speaker 2: So that's fascinating to me, And that's interesting. And you're
Speaker 2: saying the proof is in the pudding, The proof is
Speaker 2: in the pudding.
Speaker 1: I am no, there is nothing, because conversations happen like
Speaker 1: this all the time at dinner tables and in living
Speaker 1: rooms and whatnot. But how dare you say? Sometimes is
Speaker 1: you know what, even obvious to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: So I am surprised again you've been doing it. So
Speaker 1: I was surprised that you haven't gotten pushback with somebody
Speaker 1: taking offense, because anytime, it seems these days, anyone gets
Speaker 1: a little offended about gender roles or where this person
Speaker 1: should be in the home and this person should be
Speaker 1: a protector what'd you say, the feminine is receiving is receiving.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that before either.
Speaker 3: Am I. I cover the entire chapter in the book
Speaker 3: about femine energy.
Speaker 1: So let's stick with feminine energy here for a second.
Speaker 1: Does feminine energy how does it translate in the workplace?
Speaker 1: Or can it translate in a positive way in the workplace?
Speaker 3: Of course? I mean it depends on your job, you know.
Speaker 3: If I for what I do, I have to be
Speaker 3: my maskline for sure. Now, a nurse who's nurturing and
Speaker 3: loving and helping assisting elderlies, she needs to be in
Speaker 3: her feminine. I think she's thriving in her feminine doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be, but I'm sure that that's helpful to her.
Speaker 3: So I think it just depends on your job. But
Speaker 3: I definitely think if you're a CEO of Fortune five
Speaker 3: hundred company running in there with all the feminine you've got,
Speaker 3: I would say probably not the best approach.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: But when it comes to dating, remember, guys, I'm a matchmaker,
Speaker 3: I'm a dating coach. So when it comes to love,
Speaker 3: it's so simple. Men love feminine energy and women love
Speaker 3: a masculine man. And let's not forget. It's also give
Speaker 3: and take when you're in a relationship. There are moments
Speaker 3: when a man needs to be emotional and say how
Speaker 3: he really feels, and he can be in his feminine
Speaker 3: energy in that moment, and she can be in her
Speaker 3: mask and say I understand and just you know, hold space.
Speaker 3: So it's also a dance to have a good harmonious relationship.
Speaker 2: Is there?
Speaker 1: Ever? What do you say about a man who can't
Speaker 1: handle a woman in her her mass, galiant energy who
Speaker 1: is in charge. Some would say that says more about
Speaker 1: the man than it does about the woman who can't deal.
Speaker 3: So you're asking, what if the man can't handle the.
Speaker 1: Mask energy of the woman. I mean that shouldn't that
Speaker 1: be on him? She shouldn't have to change or alter
Speaker 1: anything what Some would argue that, hey, that's that's on him.
Speaker 1: Why can't he deal with a strong woman?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I personal preference is personal preference. I can't you know?
Speaker 2: You like what you like?
Speaker 3: So, I mean I deal with preferences all day long
Speaker 3: with matchmaking. People give me their exact preferences of what
Speaker 3: they like, what they don't like. I've had clients say
Speaker 3: I want the buss, babe, I have a clients say
Speaker 3: I want super feminine energy on the extreme. So it
Speaker 3: just depends on your preferences. And it's also about knowing
Speaker 3: that a boy yourself and being self aware.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, let me make sure go back a
Speaker 1: little bit here. The book here is directed at women
Speaker 1: how to attract the right guy. But your expertise, your
Speaker 1: background and your history and your work is in helping
Speaker 1: men come to you and they then say, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for, and you may matches, So explain
Speaker 1: that a little bit. We didn't do that at the
Speaker 1: very top.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, So with matchmaking, I actually just launched on Monday.
Speaker 3: I now accept female clients. Oh okay, yes, yes, Well
Speaker 3: the world's changing now for the first time, men are
Speaker 3: okay with women hiring a matchmaker. She already has a chef,
Speaker 3: she already has a driver. Why not a matchmaker? Men
Speaker 3: have it too, So for the first time, times are changing.
Speaker 3: We love that and now men are having matchmakers sore women.
Speaker 3: So I now work with both.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how does the process work? They come to
Speaker 2: you and do you have a rolodex that's old school,
Speaker 2: a rolodex of men, a rolodex of women. How do
Speaker 2: you match make?
Speaker 3: I just have a huge network, so I have a
Speaker 3: CRM system with singles, and how it works is the
Speaker 3: first step is I decide if I want to take
Speaker 3: on the client. The first step is get to know
Speaker 3: your client, see if it's a good fit to work together,
Speaker 3: and then if it is a good fit, get to
Speaker 3: know their preferences and then set them up with some incredible.
Speaker 1: Do You always have to meet certainly the client, but
Speaker 1: the potential match you have to meet them ahead of time.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is a very expensive service. This is an investment,
Speaker 3: So it would be a disservice to my line if
Speaker 3: I didn't take the time to meet them, background check everything.
Speaker 3: And you know what, people always ask me, what is
Speaker 3: this secret sauce to matchmaking? And I always say, it's intuition.
Speaker 3: It's a gut feeling. It's like a knowing. It's like
Speaker 3: I just know.
Speaker 2: These two people are going to hit it all well,
Speaker 2: So I mean, is it about what they both like,
Speaker 2: how they both operate? Like what is the what is
Speaker 2: the thing where you say they're going to be good.
Speaker 3: It's a gut feeling, an intuition.
Speaker 1: That's just an expensive process. I'm paying for your expensiveness.
Speaker 2: It would be allergic to dogs. And it's not hard Republican.
Speaker 2: We're not studying up with a democrat. Okay, but I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That there is intuition that plays a huge role in matchmaking.
Speaker 2: So when you meet a woman, how do you like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people you're meeting men women
Speaker 2: when you immediately go they'd be great together. How does
Speaker 2: that work?
Speaker 3: I can't explain how my brain works, but it is
Speaker 3: such a knack. I mean I help people get jobs
Speaker 3: all the time. I'm just a connector. Like I'll meet
Speaker 3: someone and I'm like, oh, you know what you need
Speaker 3: to meet Bob. Bob is also looking to high bubh
Speaker 3: blah blah blah or he whatever. That's just how my
Speaker 3: brain works. So it's really intuition. Do you have a
Speaker 3: success rate to back up? Okay, yeah, I choose my clients.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Yes, success rate. Yes, I do not take clients. I
Speaker 3: know I can't help sus So are we not talking
Speaker 3: about the book today? I'm like, got so much for you.
Speaker 2: We're talking about it at all? I mean, your success
Speaker 2: rate as a matchmaker certainly affects the book, for sure.
Speaker 3: No, I don't not at all, because the book is
Speaker 3: for women that don't want to do matchmaking and they
Speaker 3: want to learn how to track the right guy on
Speaker 3: their own. So different. So in the book, I cover
Speaker 3: in chapter three how to drop the modern day handkerchief,
Speaker 3: which means you were out in public and you are
Speaker 3: choosing sing who you want to speak to, like which
Speaker 3: guy in the bar? Or which guy you want to
Speaker 3: talk to?
Speaker 2: You? All right, what's the modern day handkerchief? Oh? You
Speaker 2: like this? This is good?
Speaker 3: Okay? So you know back in Victorian era women chose men.
Speaker 3: We would drop our handkerchief and the guy would pick
Speaker 3: it up and say you drop this and say, oh
Speaker 3: did I you know? And so and times haven't changed.
Speaker 3: I always in the book I talk about the G
Speaker 3: E s E. The grin. The eye is a seductive
Speaker 3: energy and it works every time. Basically, what you're doing
Speaker 3: is if you see a guy and you're attracted to
Speaker 3: him and energetically you want to speak with him, you
Speaker 3: give him the G E s C. You drop the handkerchief,
Speaker 3: and it works every time.
Speaker 1: Go go through them.
Speaker 3: The g is what the G E s the grin.
Speaker 1: Grin Okay, so the grin, it's just a matter of
Speaker 1: a little smile. You just make eye contacting you grin now.
Speaker 3: Overly aggress of a grin.
Speaker 1: You know, just a little grin. All right? Then how
Speaker 1: long is the eye contact on that on you feel.
Speaker 3: It, you feel if you'll feel it. Could be three seconds,
Speaker 3: could be five. And then the E so grin eyes.
Speaker 1: The eyes are there?
Speaker 3: Okay, so the s seductive?
Speaker 1: Okay, now my needs to help all this one. She
Speaker 1: immediately started laughing. She was doing well with the eye contacts.
Speaker 1: And then we go into goofy town. Oh I can't
Speaker 1: do Okay, what's the seductive?
Speaker 3: Seductive?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: You just energy transfers, right, you can tell when someone's
Speaker 3: warm or when like seductive energy. It's magnetic and you
Speaker 3: just send that like three air energy over there and
Speaker 3: then get it. Men get it every time.
Speaker 1: And the the last E was what so grin.
Speaker 3: Eyes seductive energy?
Speaker 1: Energy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so can you could you read my energy?
Speaker 3: Oh wait, and here's the best part. What there's a
Speaker 3: study that says men take up to five times to
Speaker 3: realize that it was for them.
Speaker 2: So he's the guy behind him.
Speaker 3: Yes, they'll think it's the guy behind them. And I
Speaker 3: share one of the stories in the book about how
Speaker 3: the guy was giving it to you, Like the gees
Speaker 3: literally pointed to guy and I was like him and
Speaker 3: I was like, no you and he was like oh
Speaker 3: and then he like walked over to me. He was like, hi, am,
Speaker 3: I introduced himself. So it takes me up to five times. So, ladies,
Speaker 3: if you didn't catch it the first g s, do
Speaker 3: it four more times.
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wow, that's not you. Are we just talking about this?
Speaker 1: That is not going to be you tell me there are?
Speaker 1: There are? You have ten commandments? Do the Ten Commandments
Speaker 1: of Dating?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can go through all ten?
Speaker 1: But can you give give me a couple of keys
Speaker 1: in there? The ten Commandments of dating? And for anyone
Speaker 1: single looking today who's on apps and all that? Right now,
Speaker 1: what do you think a couple of the key ones
Speaker 1: you would want everybody to have?
Speaker 3: I think the biggest one, the two biggest one that
Speaker 3: come to mind is over sharing and over drinking.
Speaker 1: Over sharing and over drinking.
Speaker 3: Okay, and I'll tell you why. So in New York,
Speaker 3: as we all know as New Yorkers, the drinking culture
Speaker 3: is huge here. The problem with that is there's a
Speaker 3: such thing as drunk chemistry versus real chemistry. So if
Speaker 3: you want to really figure out on a first date,
Speaker 3: is it the alcohol speaking or do we actually have
Speaker 3: really good chemistry? I say keep it to one drink
Speaker 3: max two maybe forgut, like I don't know, two if
Speaker 3: you really just can hold your liquor. But I say, like,
Speaker 3: really figure out. Do you guys get along? You know?
Speaker 3: And also, no one likes a drunk date.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was always told they're a ten at two
Speaker 2: and a two at ten. That's a problem. Or you know,
Speaker 2: bear goggles. We've all heard those curls. Yeah, beer goggles. Whatever?
Speaker 1: Did I mention how much I love her?
Speaker 2: In college I learned like, don't worry, you gotta watch out.
Speaker 2: They're a ten at two and a two to ten.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, is that wrong?
Speaker 3: No, it's just it proves the point though. You don't
Speaker 3: want to over consume on a d.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. No, I totally hear you. Any other
Speaker 2: ten commandments?
Speaker 3: The other one was the overshare over share. I gues, yes,
Speaker 3: men and women do this. They get when the nerves
Speaker 3: kick in. Sometimes you get word vomit and you just overshare. Overshare,
Speaker 3: just sharing too much sensitive information with a stranger that
Speaker 3: you know, maybe you met him on hinge, maybe you
Speaker 3: met him through a friend. It's so important to just
Speaker 3: reel it in. Remember high level first dates. It's like
Speaker 3: high level just see if there's banters, see if you
Speaker 3: guys connect on a couple of things, but not oversharing
Speaker 3: about your you know, your last divorce, oversharing about how
Speaker 3: you need about us, yes, or about oversharing about you
Speaker 3: know what your mom did to you last Sunday. Like
Speaker 3: we this person is brand new. We just have to
Speaker 3: remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely good advice for women. I understand. I
Speaker 2: am a I am a chronic oversharer, so I will
Speaker 2: fully cop to that.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I would almost break up with you just so
Speaker 1: I could see your next first date with Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that is how much you share. It would be a
Speaker 1: great social experiment.
Speaker 2: And then he said, no, all right, I loved you
Speaker 2: have a visceral reaction to love languages because people put
Speaker 2: so much stock, play so much stock in love languages.
Speaker 2: You have strong feelings about this.
Speaker 3: Yes, So here's the funny thing. According to studies, you're
Speaker 3: most likely not going to end up with someone who
Speaker 3: has the exact same love love language as you. However,
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that you can't learn them and then
Speaker 3: shift where you put your energy. So, for example, if
Speaker 3: your husband is words of affirmation and for you it's
Speaker 3: access service. As long as you guys have communicated like hey,
Speaker 3: every time you do this and this, it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that much to me because that's not how I receive love.
Speaker 3: I need to hear it from you first, or I
Speaker 3: need you know, access service. That's how I receive love.
Speaker 3: And by the way, fun fact, it's all childhood. However,
Speaker 3: your parents showed an expressed love is how you interpret
Speaker 3: love with your part So if you had a parent
Speaker 3: that never said I love you, but they bought you
Speaker 3: gifts all the time, that's all you know to receive love.
Speaker 1: So it's just.
Speaker 3: Something to have a conversation with your partner so that
Speaker 3: you're not constantly trying to do all these things. And
Speaker 3: it's not even taking into account.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned earlier what men want. They want
Speaker 1: feminine energy, but in the clients you've dealt with, it
Speaker 1: was again you're starting to say female clients now, but
Speaker 1: your initial matchmaking was all men. So in what you've
Speaker 1: learned from men about what men want from women, and
Speaker 1: in a mate. You said feminine energy, But what are
Speaker 1: those things?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: That's too hard to speak too because every guy is
Speaker 3: so different and everyone is so complex, everyone's preferences are different,
Speaker 3: So it's it just depends on the person. I've never
Speaker 3: had the same type of type. I've actually never had
Speaker 3: the same type of client twice.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Is that you wouldn't say there are any things universally
Speaker 1: that men want in this Universally?
Speaker 3: I would say being in your feminine when you're at home.
Speaker 3: Sure that could be universal.
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, And I don't think a lot of women
Speaker 2: think of that, all right. They're trying to be all
Speaker 2: kinds of things. Yeah, to so many people. So it's interesting.
Speaker 2: And it's not about being something you're not right, it's
Speaker 2: about tapping into a part of you that's truly there.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the distinguishment between like pretending or
Speaker 2: posturing or manipulating, but you're actually being honest and authentic
Speaker 2: with the side of yourself that maybe you've been afraid
Speaker 2: to express or told it would be weak to express.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think women are dealing with a lot
Speaker 2: of different narratives and operatives about what they should be
Speaker 2: or how they can be the best version of themselves.
Speaker 2: And it's confusing, especially when we think that maybe going
Speaker 2: back to gender norms or stereotypical norms is something to
Speaker 2: be frowned upon. And I do think that that is
Speaker 2: part of where we are today in society.
Speaker 3: But I also think, like coming back to who you are,
Speaker 3: like before you got that big, you know, c sweet
Speaker 3: executive job. How about coming back to that person you
Speaker 3: were before you became a founder of a company? Like
Speaker 3: who was that in her child? Was she a feminine woman?
Speaker 3: Well she deserves to be that today and in the relationship.
Speaker 1: Well that is no. I love it because so many
Speaker 1: of the conversations we have it because I was about
Speaker 1: to ask you that the idea that tapping in you
Speaker 1: said feminine, and it always in some way gets translated
Speaker 1: into weaker, and it shouldn't be. There's it's okay for
Speaker 1: there to be a masculine and a feminine. Would you say,
Speaker 1: without one being stronger or weaker?
Speaker 3: That's right. Actually, all the power is in the feminine energy.
Speaker 3: It's so magnetic. When a woman is truly in your
Speaker 3: feminine energy, it is magnetic, and so many things will
Speaker 3: happen for you because you're you're in that like abundance receiving.
Speaker 3: You're just in that receiving mode of like letting it
Speaker 3: happen instead of forcing everything and doing doing doing.
Speaker 2: That's and I'm laughing because I'm hearing you and I'm
Speaker 2: understanding that a little bit more now than I ever
Speaker 2: have before in my life. But I was always on
Speaker 2: the other side of things always.
Speaker 3: Just so you know, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 2: So I'm listening to it. I'm like laughing because for
Speaker 2: the first time, I'm open to that part of me
Speaker 2: that I haven't been before, like I've always been like, No,
Speaker 2: I'm the doer, I'm the getter, I'm the maker, I'm
Speaker 2: the creator, I'm the breadwinner, I'm the and so it's
Speaker 2: interesting about accepting and not just accepting, but embracing the
Speaker 2: other side of yourself in the right relationship, in the
Speaker 2: right relationship of you.
Speaker 1: Yes, a part of the title of your book is
Speaker 1: avoid situationships, step into wifey energy and get him to commit.
Speaker 3: Wait, can we talk about avoiding situationships?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: If I hear that word one more time on my
Speaker 3: coaching clients, because remember, I have a coaching business, but
Speaker 3: I also have a matchmaking business. And my coaching clients,
Speaker 3: they date all on their own. But I keep hearing
Speaker 3: that word to find it, I'm like, hold on here.
Speaker 3: Why situationship is when one of the two people as
Speaker 3: are dating one persons ready to commit and the other
Speaker 3: one's not, and it just gets dragged out and it
Speaker 3: never turns into something that is a situationship. And I
Speaker 3: am here to say, and you'll read in the book,
Speaker 3: do not do wifey duties or girlfriend duties if you
Speaker 3: do not have the title. For all the women out
Speaker 3: there listening to this podcast, if you are cooking for
Speaker 3: this man, or you're taking out his dog, or you're
Speaker 3: doing his laundry and you do not have the girlfriend title,
Speaker 3: you are doing yourself a disservice.
Speaker 2: Yep, why are you laughing?
Speaker 1: Charge? Because I take care of your dog, I.
Speaker 2: Do your laundry now, and I cook for you, not
Speaker 2: take care of my dog. The other two maybe fine,
Speaker 2: the laundry and the cooking, yes, but you do not
Speaker 2: take care of my dog.
Speaker 1: If I walk in the house right now, who's the
Speaker 1: dog going to come through?
Speaker 2: He loves you because you feed him food off the
Speaker 2: side and anyway, that's why.
Speaker 1: But a situationship, how you avoided by what.
Speaker 3: By the way, though, that's when, like, the situationship is
Speaker 3: when the people one of the two people is seeing
Speaker 3: other people like there's not a commitment. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's a situationship, not a relationship because there's no commitment.
Speaker 2: It's called We used to call it, like, you know,
Speaker 2: booty calls. Yes, that's basically what it is.
Speaker 3: It's basically booty calls.
Speaker 1: Why do we get away from that language?
Speaker 2: It was working just fine and it was what it is. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's it tries to somehow elevate a booty call.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I was more sophisticated way to say booty call.
Speaker 3: What happened to booty call?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is. Wait, wait, we've got we've
Speaker 2: got here.
Speaker 1: Who had know more than what's a sneaky link?
Speaker 2: Moder sneaky link? That's one step below a situationship. I
Speaker 2: guess I don't know in the hierarchy of I don't
Speaker 2: know ships.
Speaker 1: I thought we were talking about your dating and one
Speaker 1: wants to getting you've get married and doesn't. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's not even that okay.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, we're not even there.
Speaker 2: It's not that deep. You said it perfectly. That's exactly
Speaker 2: what my twenty one year old would say. It's not
Speaker 2: that deep, mom, that's not that deep.
Speaker 1: Tell you, how do you get the other part of
Speaker 1: the title, get him to commit? That's heavy? How do
Speaker 1: you do this?
Speaker 3: That is it's a lot. It's not just one thing.
Speaker 3: You kind of have to read the book.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's okay, but give us some give us some
Speaker 1: cliff notes here. How do you get him to commit?
Speaker 1: Is that even possible?
Speaker 3: Of course if by getting him to commitment, first off,
Speaker 3: you're showing up in your wife the energy. That's the
Speaker 3: first thing. Showing up in wifey energy. That's how I
Speaker 3: have seen guys who I never thought would commit, but
Speaker 3: they met the right girl at the right time, and
Speaker 3: she was in her wifey era.
Speaker 2: What's wifey energy? Can you tell me what that is?
Speaker 3: You have to read the book. I mean wifey energy.
Speaker 3: It's so many different things. It's it's a lot. It's
Speaker 3: like you really have your you have your life together.
Speaker 3: You're showing up in you know, you're dressing differently. You know,
Speaker 3: like there are times when you're going out with your
Speaker 3: girlfriends and you look like a ho chi mama and
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're not in your white fie air right now,
Speaker 3: like you're just going on having fun and you're not
Speaker 3: you know, he he's meeting you, and he's not thinking, Oh,
Speaker 3: this is the girl I'm going to take home with
Speaker 3: my parents.
Speaker 2: So it's almost like you're you know, you've got a
Speaker 2: job interview. You know you want that job, and you're
Speaker 2: dressed the part, and you present yourself in the best
Speaker 2: way possible, but you definitely don't want to, like I
Speaker 2: worry about what happens when he sees it all, you know,
Speaker 2: like to hide you're crazy, or to hide some of
Speaker 2: the other parts of you that aren't as attractive or
Speaker 2: wifey or however you want to call it feminine. At
Speaker 2: what point is it okay to show those things, because
Speaker 2: eventually they're going to come out right you want them
Speaker 2: to know. I would think at some point earlier rather
Speaker 2: than later, perhaps that all of this is you, not
Speaker 2: just the best version of you.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this, for whoever you were
Speaker 3: speaking about, is that person working on their shadow side,
Speaker 3: because that's that's another part of it where it's like,
Speaker 3: if you're not working on that crazy side of you,
Speaker 3: like if you're not doing the therapy, the shadow work,
Speaker 3: you're not healing those parts of you. Because anytime someone
Speaker 3: gets really triggered and annoyed and they get they start
Speaker 3: yelling all these things, all the not so good parts
Speaker 3: are called the shadow side. And I think that it's
Speaker 3: really important to definitely share that with that person because
Speaker 3: because that it's just way too much work to always
Speaker 3: be on your A game and.
Speaker 2: Like it's impossible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone, of course you show them that side. But
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that on a first.
Speaker 2: Date, you know. And by the way, also if you
Speaker 2: say this, forget it. No, I get that. I don't
Speaker 2: get it, Like, you know, don't tell me to calm down.
Speaker 2: Triggered shadows.
Speaker 1: Ye, but you were going you had a story about it.
Speaker 1: You said there was somebody you saw wasn't going to commit,
Speaker 1: but you were back to how to get a guy
Speaker 1: to commit.
Speaker 3: Oh, and I was just saying that, you know, eligible, bachelor,
Speaker 3: super good looking, successful, all the things. I never thought
Speaker 3: he'd settle down. And he met that right girl and
Speaker 3: it was just the right time, the right energy, and
Speaker 3: she had done she healed herself and she was like
Speaker 3: in that feminine era and they just ended up together
Speaker 3: and so I do think that plays into it too.
Speaker 3: So you, yeah, you can get meant to commit.
Speaker 1: Right, No, the right woman, it's always I'm always struggling
Speaker 1: with that, the right woman, the right man, and then
Speaker 1: there's the right time, and so how does one know?
Speaker 1: And a lot of your vice is obviously for people
Speaker 1: who are single, but for people who are out there
Speaker 1: who are married or in relationships right now, what is
Speaker 1: in the book that could help them maybe evaluate or
Speaker 1: reevaluate or you're making a face like it's not for them,
Speaker 1: We're not going down the road. That's fine, I'll come out.
Speaker 3: So I'm writing five books. The fifth one will be
Speaker 3: for the married couples, but we're not there yet.
Speaker 2: This is book number one, and Tell You is really
Speaker 2: for those.
Speaker 3: Singles who are struggling, because loneliness is a huge problem
Speaker 3: right now. People have never been more lonely. People have
Speaker 3: given up on dating at Fatigue is real. And so
Speaker 3: this book is something that I was so excited to
Speaker 3: share with the world. And it's digestible, it's sure. It's
Speaker 3: a thirty minute read and each chapter has an exercise,
Speaker 3: so you digest it and then there's a little exercise
Speaker 3: and you get to journal in the book, and I
Speaker 3: think it's a gift of the world to help the
Speaker 3: singles out there right now.
Speaker 2: And tell you tell me a economics major so irrelevant? Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I'm no, And I'm so, how did you get into
Speaker 2: this business?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I was matchmaking everyone in high school, college,
Speaker 3: you know, post college, and then I just you know,
Speaker 3: I got into finance and whatever, and I was like,
Speaker 3: this isn't my calling. And my last name is we Met.
Speaker 3: I was like, I meant to be a matchmaker we Met,
Speaker 3: So yeah, So I ended up I worked for the
Speaker 3: largest matchmaking agency in Atlanta and loved it. And then
Speaker 3: that's when I said to myself, hold on, I could
Speaker 3: do this at a different level, and I could do
Speaker 3: it better. I'm gonna own that. So I'm moved to
Speaker 3: New York. I booked a one way ticket, was like
Speaker 3: couch serving on my best friend's couch for a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks building this company. And I said, okay, we're
Speaker 3: going to launch on Valentine's Day, and sure enough, it
Speaker 3: went viral and everyone's like, oh my god, you know,
Speaker 3: Talia wee Met's got our own company now, and like
Speaker 3: it took off and I've had it now for half
Speaker 3: a decade.
Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible. And do you have your forever person?
Speaker 3: I have someone in my life. Yes, is he my
Speaker 3: forever TVD Oh my.
Speaker 1: Goodness, Grace, we'll see. We don't know if he's mister Wright.
Speaker 3: We're so new, We're so new. Okay, I'm following my
Speaker 3: own rules. You know, you really have to make sure
Speaker 3: and take your time. How new we're like a month deep?
Speaker 2: Oh wow? And how does he feel about dating someone
Speaker 2: who is maybe analyzing him all the time.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's the best part of him. He is
Speaker 3: so confident, he is so in his masculine that he
Speaker 3: allows me to be in my feminine. Wow, I don't
Speaker 3: talk about work stuff. I get to finally be fully
Speaker 3: in my feminine. And actually, I think this relationship happened
Speaker 3: for a reason. It's going to be in my next book.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: At the next book because we're now we are looking
Speaker 1: for another relationship to publicly scrutinize. So so everybody followed
Speaker 1: Talia and her one month and guy, can I ask,
Speaker 1: there's so much.
Speaker 3: Relationship for two years?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's cool, that's right. Cool. We like that.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to point to anyone in particular,
Speaker 1: can you And I don't run the room, but in
Speaker 1: news lately, do you ever look at celebrity couples or
Speaker 1: things that are being followed in the media and you
Speaker 1: have a sense of they are they are a good
Speaker 1: match or not a good match? These are people you
Speaker 1: do not know. But is there any feeling or guide
Speaker 1: in what you're able to see from a distance about couple? Really?
Speaker 3: I mean, I just got down with Access Hollywood. We
Speaker 3: were talking about matches celebrity couples, and I'll tell you
Speaker 3: there's a couple of celebrity couples that I just love
Speaker 3: an adore. I don't personally know them. I might be
Speaker 3: one degree separation from them, but I know in my
Speaker 3: heart they're a good fit for each other. And they
Speaker 3: just have so much value alignment. Their foundation is so
Speaker 3: solid because they see the world the same way, they
Speaker 3: were raised a very similar light, and I think they'll
Speaker 3: make it. And there's some couples where I'm like, oof,
Speaker 3: god bless you know they'll figure it out eventually, But
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 2: You're talking about. But I could.
Speaker 3: I could absolutely, It's a hunch. It's like an intuitive knowing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I only have one last question, and this was
Speaker 1: for every I'm asking on behalf of women is there?
Speaker 1: How do they know he's mister wrong?
Speaker 3: Ooh, I love this question. Okay, how do you know
Speaker 3: if it's mister wrong? Your entire and you know what
Speaker 3: this is for men and women, this is both. This
Speaker 3: is for anyone who's listening, who's single. You will know
Speaker 3: because your nervous system, your gut feeling will tell you,
Speaker 3: like your anxiety will start to get cranked up. You'll
Speaker 3: start to feel stressed around that person. When when you
Speaker 3: are with the right person, it will feel like home.
Speaker 3: You will feel peace, you will feel serenity, and when
Speaker 3: you're with the wrong person, you will have just this
Speaker 3: like your I call it the nervous system test. Your
Speaker 3: nervous system will just be off. And so it's about
Speaker 3: being very self aware because your body will always tell
Speaker 3: you if.
Speaker 2: It's mister right, and apparently if it's mister wrong. And apparently.
Speaker 1: Your experience what.
Speaker 2: I mean, it depends on the day. Sometimes how's your
Speaker 2: good today feelings on a minute, I mean, and like
Speaker 2: to that point though it changes, I mean, you can
Speaker 2: still be in a loving relationship and have moments of
Speaker 2: oh my god, what have I done. I mean that's
Speaker 2: the part of any relationship.
Speaker 3: Of course, you have your highs and your lows, and
Speaker 3: every marriage nothing's perfect. But I'm saying, especially in those
Speaker 3: early phases, when something feels off, listen to that.
Speaker 2: In the early phases, yes, because later on, there's always
Speaker 2: going to be something that's off in any given day
Speaker 2: because we've we've been through the trenches. But I get
Speaker 2: it now. In the beginning, it should be butterflies and
Speaker 2: unicorns and rainbows, like there's enough that's gonna come later.
Speaker 3: It should just feel warm and safe. It shouldn't feel
Speaker 3: like that firecracker love. No, those burned fast Yes, you
Speaker 3: want the like at home fireplace feeling.
Speaker 2: Like who do you want a Netflix and chill with?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go that far, but I would say, like
Speaker 3: like Iday, just wow, I shouldn't chill Like okay, you
Speaker 3: can Neflix and chill with someone who still have that
Speaker 3: firecracker energy with It's just like a gut feeling. It's
Speaker 3: annoying where you just feel so safe with that person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, safety you.
Speaker 1: Really need, like not relationship advice, but like dating advice.
Speaker 1: You're asking No, you're looking.
Speaker 2: For someone, No, I'm thinking about all the friends in
Speaker 2: my life too. All right, tell you we met. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for being with us. This has been
Speaker 2: super fun. Congratulations on the book and the second book,
Speaker 2: and the third book, and four and the one.
Speaker 1: Right, what's the schedule in all the books? How soon
Speaker 1: you can we expect them?
Speaker 3: Probably went a year the year.
Speaker 1: I'll be dang, well, CONGRATU. Really this is cool to
Speaker 1: be and this is fun stuff for us. But there's
Speaker 1: we hope everybody can take a nugget or two out
Speaker 1: of it, no matter what. But the book is on
Speaker 1: sale everywhere Amazon. You can find it there. Again, it's
Speaker 1: how to attract the right guy. Tell you we met.
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic thing, it really is. Do you want
Speaker 1: me to tell you about the shirt?
Speaker 2: Because you oh, yes, you know what. That's a good
Speaker 2: way to end it. Mister right now. You haven't worn
Speaker 2: it again?
Speaker 1: Wow, everybody's perks.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you used to come into the
Speaker 2: studio with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, hello, well it's okay. I do
Speaker 1: own a T shirt that says mister right now on it.
Speaker 1: Let me explain. I went out to LA and the
Speaker 1: hell with it now. I interviewed at entertainment tonight right
Speaker 1: I went out there and I was just supposed to
Speaker 1: go interview and then fly right back. The same day,
Speaker 1: I went out in my suit and interviewed and did
Speaker 1: an on camera test and then went back to the airport.
Speaker 1: They called me as I'm bored. The flight is boarding,
Speaker 1: and they called and say TJ. It went so, well,
Speaker 1: can you come back and we want you to record
Speaker 1: for a show that's actually going to air tomorrow. But
Speaker 1: I wasn't prepared. I didn't have clothes supposed to be
Speaker 1: in and out, so they send me to a hotel.
Speaker 1: I don't get there until ten to eleven at night.
Speaker 1: The only store opened. I don't have clothes. The only
Speaker 1: store open at that time was Hustler. So I go
Speaker 1: in the Hustler at about midnight. I have never heard
Speaker 1: this story before.
Speaker 2: I was with EPIC.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I was with CNN at the time.
Speaker 1: Who was I with it that, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: even ABC, I don't know. But I go and I
Speaker 1: go into the store and I promise you the kindest
Speaker 1: T shirt in there was the one that said mister
Speaker 1: right now. So I had to buy that shirt. And
Speaker 1: the next day I went into the Entertainment Tonight offices
Speaker 1: in the morning meeting with the shirt on that said,
Speaker 1: mister right now, and I just haven't been able to
Speaker 1: throw the shirt away. But but we're photographed by Papa
Speaker 1: Rozzi too much. I cannot wear it.
Speaker 2: I'm never so it's funny, I said, you come into
Speaker 2: the studio with it. But ever since we've been together,
Speaker 2: thank god, you've never worn it. A smart man, smart.
Speaker 1: Man, tell you should I toss that shirt?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He should. He should never wear that ever again.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tellia, thank you much.
Speaker 1: You know where to find us. We're on Instagram, Amy
Speaker 1: and DJ podcast. We'll see it.