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Speaker 1: this show. All kinds of drama around the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: reaction to last night's Bills embedded came on Facebook Live.

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Speaker 1: Hope you watch it. It's all in today's show and

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Speaker 1: it starts right now. Oh what USTe Tasker, Bucktown Bucks down,

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Speaker 1: bottlest Time. There you go. Here we are. We're back

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Welcome to the show. John Murphy, Steam Tasker

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Speaker 1: coming to him from Orchard Park, newer Field. If you're

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Speaker 1: They're setting up the stage and the seating for Beyonce

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Wow, I look at that Saturday Saturday Night.

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Speaker 1: I was awesome. Man, look at that. Yeah, Jayson in

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Speaker 1: it on the run to Jason on the run too.

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to make me. That doesn't make me want

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Speaker 1: they're transcendent talents. I mean, you gotta gotta tip your

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Speaker 1: You want transcending Yeah, you want transcending talent. As long

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Speaker 1: It'll take them. It'll take them as long the taxi

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Speaker 1: from one side of the airport in Buffalo to the

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Speaker 1: other as it will at the time they're in the air. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a ridiculous guy down them. And then they do

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Speaker 1: the night before the game thing, right, road game meetings

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Speaker 1: and uh, of course the meals and more meetings and

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Speaker 1: get ready to play tomorrow after midnight snack. Not midnight

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Speaker 1: late night snack. They always do. They do that, and

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Speaker 1: I always thought that was a bad thing to do.

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Speaker 1: But there's a reason behind it. And this is not

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Speaker 1: it's not just emotional comfort. You know, get a little

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Speaker 1: ice cream before you go to bed. There's some sort

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Speaker 1: of nutritional thing that they get out of those late

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Speaker 1: night snacks for some reason. Ice cream. I don't I'm Joe.

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Speaker 1: It was not ice cream. It's like granola or something.

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Speaker 1: But it is specifically picked chosen by the by the crew.

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Speaker 1: So you know, and some of the guys, this is true,

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Speaker 1: some of these guy that that late night snack, they're

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Speaker 1: telling them you you go eat and go. They're telling

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Speaker 1: them you have to some of the guys are like,

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Speaker 1: you don't. You know, they're saying you do, you don't,

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So it's I thought it was

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Speaker 1: to keep track everybody. Make sure nobody's out. You gotta

447
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Speaker 1: check in, well some guy, you do you don't? You know?

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Speaker 1: You have to. I don't know. Kyle, you can go.

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Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. You know, Jervis Landry,

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Speaker 1: make sure you're at the snack. Bills made a roster

451
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Speaker 1: move last night. If you didn't catch it last night,

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Speaker 1: they claimed rookie defensive lineman Albert Heavili off waivers from

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. He's a defensive tackle and a defensive end

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Speaker 1: product of Eastern Washington. He's from the Seattle area and

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Speaker 1: he was released by the center of the Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: Chargers just about a week ago. Now he's a Buffalo Bill.

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Speaker 1: Albert Heavili. He will wear number ninety seven in tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: game to make room the Bills designated defensive tackle Mark

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Speaker 1: kabus Lewis waved injured. He came up with an injury

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Speaker 1: the other day and the Bills added a fullback yesterday.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, this happened yesterday morning. I

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Speaker 1: think everybody caught that one right. Bills signed fullback Sam Rogers,

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Speaker 1: a rookie, to the roster, and release Zak Olsted, who

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Speaker 1: had been on the roster for a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: Those roster moves. On the eve of the game, the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the Cleveland Brown's gonna talk about that game.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. We got phone lines open,

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Speaker 1: so let's talk about it on Twitter poll. It is

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Speaker 1: an official Twitter poll today. It's I think it's a

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Speaker 1: really good one. Jay Harris came up with our producer

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Speaker 1: and I think it's a proposed we hid into the

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Speaker 1: skin tomorrow night. Here's the question. Which Buffalo Bill's offensive

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Speaker 1: player has a chance to redeem himself the most Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night against the Browns. Which player on the Bills offense

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Speaker 1: has a chance to redeem himself the most against the Browns?

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Speaker 1: And you can define redeem anyway you want, and in

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Speaker 1: any time frame you want. Maybe you think a certain

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Speaker 1: player needs redemption from last week. Maybe you think a

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Speaker 1: certain offensive player needs redemption from last season. Which Bill's

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Speaker 1: offensive player has a chance to redeem himself the most

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night against the Browns? We got phone lines open?

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three, oh five, fifty from outside Buffalo. It's

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Speaker 1: toll free call at one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. We got eleven hundred votes already. And

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll, which Bill's offensive player has a chance

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Speaker 1: to redeem himself the most Tomorrow night against Cleveland? Forty

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Speaker 1: nine percent of you responding via Twitter say, Corey Coleman,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver of the former Cleveland brown He's one

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Speaker 1: of the good storylines we talked about. We'll talk more

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Speaker 1: about him. Zay Jones the choice of forty two percent

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Speaker 1: of you. These are the names we selected for the poll. Nicoleary.

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Speaker 1: Seven percent of you say he has a chance to

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Speaker 1: redeem himself. Other two percent let's talk about it. Give

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Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three oh five fifty and

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Which offensive player has a chance to redeem himself the

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Speaker 1: most against the Browns tomorrow night. Corey Coleman is a

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Speaker 1: fairly obvious choice. Steven, We've talked I do. I've said

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Speaker 1: it all week. This is a big week for him.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned it earlier on in this show too. He's

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Speaker 1: going to get a chance to play. He's been up

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Speaker 1: and down the depth chart in practice this week, first team,

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Speaker 1: second team, third team a little bit. He's former first rounder.

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Speaker 1: You know his story fifteenth overall pick a couple of

505
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Speaker 1: years ago, broke a hand, one year, broke a hand

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Speaker 1: the next year, featured prominently and the hard knocks with

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns over the last week or so. Went

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Speaker 1: in and requested a trade a week ago Sunday and

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Speaker 1: got it. Came to the Buffalo Bills and really a

510
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Speaker 1: ridiculously even the Browns players, right, did you see hard Knocks?

511
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Speaker 1: They couldn't believe that they that they only got a

512
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Speaker 1: seventh rounder from Buffalo to get Corey Coleman. He does.

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Speaker 1: He needs redemption, not from last week. Obviously he didn't

514
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Speaker 1: play last week and he's been here now for almost

515
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Speaker 1: two week, but he needs redemption for his first two

516
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Speaker 1: years in Cleveland, and the script is set up perfectly

517
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Speaker 1: for him to do it Friday night in Cleveland. I

518
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Speaker 1: think absolutely. And it all depends on what we were

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Speaker 1: speaking about just earlier. Does he have enough knowledge of

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Speaker 1: the offense to do and one of the criticisms of

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Speaker 1: him was is this something that he can do? Can

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Speaker 1: he pick this offense up? We've talked about how multiple

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Speaker 1: it is, how complex this offense is. That's going to

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Speaker 1: be the real challenge for Corey Coleman. The physical part

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Speaker 1: of it's going to be fine, but can he get

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Speaker 1: enough in just six practices to get on the field

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Speaker 1: and be effective for whatever time they give him. I'm

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Speaker 1: certainly he could go out and take two or three reps,

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Speaker 1: but could he take fifteen or twenty reps? Could he

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Speaker 1: stay out there for a quarter and a half and

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Speaker 1: be effective? You know he's going to be highly motivated,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you got to know. I think that's

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Speaker 1: going to be the telling feature about whether he can

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Speaker 1: contribute for the whole season. Can he pick up the offense,

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Speaker 1: can he do what he's supposed to be doing, line

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Speaker 1: up where he's supposed to be lining up? And do

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Speaker 1: they have a spot for him? I know physically he

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Speaker 1: could probably play multiple spots, but where does he fit

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Speaker 1: into the Bills team? And all that stuff's gotta be answered.

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Speaker 1: But I think, man, oh man, you gotta see him.

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Speaker 1: We gotta lay right. You got to fly down the

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Speaker 1: sideline right, run underneath the pass from Josh Allen. Something

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Speaker 1: like that would be redemption for Corey Coleman. Well, everything,

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Speaker 1: Everything circles back to Josh. But he's the one most

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Speaker 1: likely to agree that's right. And I and I and

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Speaker 1: I see the same thing. And I said it too.

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Speaker 1: He saw Josh Allen on his first snap, drop back

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Speaker 1: and heave it. You gotta think they're gonna put Corey

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Speaker 1: Coleman in the game, drop back and heave it, right,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's been working with the twos Corey Coleman has

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Speaker 1: been put him in with the twos man. I think

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Speaker 1: that is a softball right down the middle. The script

553
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Speaker 1: is right there, right there for the taking. But he's

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Speaker 1: not the only one. Which offensive player has a chance

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Speaker 1: to redeem himself the most against Cleveland. What about Zay Jones?

556
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Speaker 1: Is he looking for redemption? He had a decent not

557
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Speaker 1: great rookie year. Is a Jones? You know, you know

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Speaker 1: the numbers, you know what he did? I sure you

559
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Speaker 1: know the problems he had last year with drops in

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Speaker 1: some cases. He had a tumultuous offseason, right, a little

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Speaker 1: bit of trouble and of course surgery and injuries. And

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Speaker 1: now Zay Jones is back the non contact Jersey came

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Speaker 1: off on Monday, back full practice the last three days

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Speaker 1: and looks good and looks motivated, looks energized. Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: said it himself. He seems like he's matured a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Zay Jones has a chance for big time redemption in

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Speaker 1: this game. I think he'll lineup with the starters. He's

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Speaker 1: on Friday Night, and I think he has a chance

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Speaker 1: for serious redemption in this game. And won't just be

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Speaker 1: this game. It could be a couple of games. But

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Speaker 1: the time is now. It's time for him to start

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Speaker 1: think about this too, Murph, the scenario and the mind

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Speaker 1: frame that he's gonna be in in this game. Because

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Speaker 1: here's what happens in training camp. He has all the

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Speaker 1: stuff going, you know, from the off season he had,

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Speaker 1: the year he had last year. He worked very hard

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Speaker 1: to get in shape. He's been held back because of

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Speaker 1: a knee injury and the knee surgery he had, you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. So now he's back in

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Speaker 1: And when you get to training camp, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't realize this, and I'll give you some insight.

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Speaker 1: You get to training camp, if you're going every day,

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Speaker 1: they're going hard every day. They're practicing, practicing, meeting, meeting, eating, eating, sleep, practice, eating,

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Speaker 1: and they're going and going, and you miss a practice

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Speaker 1: or two practices. It feels like you're miles behind. I

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Speaker 1: mean miles behind. You feel left out. Everything's happening so fast,

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Speaker 1: and you have to stand there and watch practice. All

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Speaker 1: these other guys that you don't think, you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't want, you don't think they can make the team.

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Speaker 1: You want to make the team, And they're getting more

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Speaker 1: reps and they're looking better and they're looking good, and

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Speaker 1: you're standing there watching the team take off and leave you.

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Speaker 1: Now he's back in and he's in that mindset. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is my spot, I'm gonna get it. That's what

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Speaker 1: he's thinking right now. That's his mindset. So for him

596
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Speaker 1: to be step onto that field in this Browns game,

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Speaker 1: after having to watch and finally make a statement about

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Speaker 1: where he's at in his career and the kind of

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Speaker 1: season he wants to have in relation to what it

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Speaker 1: was last year, and then the offseason everything everybody has

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Speaker 1: been talking about with him, you know, you know he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be off the charts ready to play in this game.

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Speaker 1: It could be fun. The third one we offer on

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll, who's which offensive player has a chance

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Speaker 1: to redeem him himself the most is an interesting selection,

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Speaker 1: and that would be nico Leary, the tight end getting

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Speaker 1: set for another year. And look, I hear the drum beats,

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Speaker 1: and it's been all over camp and everybody said it,

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Speaker 1: and you can't you can't fail to notice that there

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Speaker 1: are tight ends who have emerged in this training camp

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Speaker 1: and in the first preseason game, Guys who may or

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Speaker 1: may not be passing Nicoleary on the depth chart. Jason Krum,

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Speaker 1: second year player from Tennessee, had a twenty two yard

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Speaker 1: catch against the Carolina Panthers and has had good moments

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Speaker 1: of training camp. Kyrie Lee, an outstanding blocker now getting

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Speaker 1: more work with the ones and twos of training camp.

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00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: You can catch the ball as well. Logan Thomas has

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Speaker 1: emerged as a more complete tight end than he has been.

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Speaker 1: And look, I know it's the popular thing to say

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Speaker 1: this week for camp observers, and I don't disagree necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know that. I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: the ship has sailed yet on Nicoleary. Is Is he

623
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Speaker 1: in a battle? Sure he is? And you know who

624
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: knows that. Nicole Leary knows that, But I'm not writing

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Speaker 1: him off as far as the roster spot. Yet I

626
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Speaker 1: think the Bills like is the complete nature of his game.

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Speaker 1: I think they feel like he's a good fit for

628
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Speaker 1: the culture here, but he is probably looking for and

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Speaker 1: not necessarily redempted, as much as a affirmation of who

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Speaker 1: he is and what he does for this offense, and

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Speaker 1: I think he needs to do a little bit of that,

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Speaker 1: at least a little bit of that tomorrow night against

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, and you look down that list

634
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Speaker 1: at tight end, it starts with Charles Clay that you

635
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Speaker 1: didn't even mention. There's the five names you've got, Charles Clay,

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Speaker 1: Nicole Leary, Jason Crum, Logan Thomas, and Carry Lee. Jason

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Speaker 1: Crum and Carry Lee are the real wild cards. Those

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Speaker 1: guys parachuted into training camp as unknowns now Crum was

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Speaker 1: here late last year. But both of those guys have

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Speaker 1: played extremely well and it's gonna be up to the

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Speaker 1: fact that the coaches as to who can contribute more.

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Speaker 1: Nicole Leary is part of the ear right Murph. He's

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Speaker 1: part of the culture. He's part of the group that

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Speaker 1: stopped the drought last year, that helped this team get

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs, he made some key catches. But Nicole

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Speaker 1: Leary is a guy who is a gritty, down inside

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Speaker 1: tight end. Now he can do some things in the

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Speaker 1: passing game, no question about. And he's got good hands.

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Speaker 1: And for most people who watch, he's the guy that

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Speaker 1: plays with no arm, sleeves, no gloves. He's the only

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Speaker 1: guy in the NFL to play with no gloves, the

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Speaker 1: only offensive receiver or tight end or running back. Every

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Speaker 1: other guy in the league plays with gloves. Nicole Leary doesn't.

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Speaker 1: That's how you know him. You know he's sure that

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's a it's just a tough dude,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's he is in a battle because

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Speaker 1: basically the team got better around him. Now he's got it,

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Speaker 1: and we don't know. And I always run into this too,

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Speaker 1: there's always an op and I don't know that this

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Speaker 1: is happening. I don't think it is, but I want

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Speaker 1: to throw it out there as a possibility, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: they'll set guys who they think are gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: They'll set him aside during training camp, knowing what they

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Speaker 1: have in him to find out about other players. So

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Speaker 1: it may come down to the fact that they're they're

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Speaker 1: deciding between Logan Thomas, Jason Crum and Carry Lee as

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Speaker 1: the third tight end. Maybe nico Leary is already penciled

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Speaker 1: in for them. That's a possibility. Believe me, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that nico Leary has changed. He's not a worse

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Speaker 1: player than he was. I don't think he's had a

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Speaker 1: horrible camp. But because of the other opportunities these guys

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Speaker 1: are doing, they're showing up. So there's that possibility. It's

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Speaker 1: a new offense and they're gonna ask their guys to

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Speaker 1: do a little bit something different. Obviously it's basically the same,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, there's all of that now. It could be

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Speaker 1: that nico Leary's up against it already. They might have

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Speaker 1: already come in and watched him on film and Brian

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Speaker 1: day Ball in April, or may might have said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I just don't think he's got the skill

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Speaker 1: set that I need for my spot. And that may

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Speaker 1: have been writing on the wall months ago. So he's

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Speaker 1: got a lot to show, he said with him. But

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Speaker 1: to me, it's not redemption as much as it might

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Speaker 1: be a reaffirmation of what he does for this team,

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Speaker 1: you know, to let them know what he does but

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Speaker 1: there are others two, and we want to hear for you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and come back and talk

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Speaker 1: more about this. Which offensive player on the Bills has

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Speaker 1: the chance to redeem himself the most against the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns tomorrow night. We've got it as our Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: You can vote there, you can send in a tweet.

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Speaker 1: We'll read it on the tweet sheet. We'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear your boys. Give us a call eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Steve, did you watch him? Betted

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Speaker 1: at all? I did? Yeah, I watched a little bit today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that when we return as well.

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Speaker 1: Come on back. The show's just starting three hours today

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Speaker 1: from now until three o'clock One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Come Out of Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Okay, good morning, Mann. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. That's made Number one is continue

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Speaker 1: to develop our standard of how we do things. And

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Speaker 1: number two is talk a little bit about situation. As

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Speaker 1: I came up. They came up yesterday, all right. So

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Speaker 1: the first thing right here is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a situation. Make sure that you are not getting passed

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Speaker 1: up by somebody else. That is non negotiable. If I

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Speaker 1: question your effort, you're not playing not for this team.

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Speaker 1: You can go play somewhere else. That's our standard. That's

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Speaker 1: the standard that we have in this building. So if

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Speaker 1: I see it again, you're coming off the field. One

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Speaker 1: guy prevents us from making a touchdown on offense. One guy.

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Speaker 1: That's all it takes is one guy not to do

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Speaker 1: his job, or one guy not to give great effort.

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Speaker 1: Do your job, do your job, do your job. How

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Speaker 1: bad do you want it? How bad do you want it? Well?

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Speaker 1: That is part of Embedded Buffalo Bills Embedded, the show

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Speaker 1: that went up last night at eight o'clock and inside

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Speaker 1: look at the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills that was available

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Speaker 1: on Facebook Watch last night. Part one of Embedded presented

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Speaker 1: a variety of Bills platforms and now to watch it.

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Speaker 1: It's about a seventeen eighteen minute all access look at

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in training Camp. A new original series

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Speaker 1: Embedded presented by Pepsi, and the next edition comes up

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday. It'll be Wednesday nights, eight o'clock at Facebook Watch.

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Speaker 1: I watched it this morning. It's very interesting. It certainly

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Speaker 1: is behind the scenes, Steve. You're in meeting rooms, you're

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Speaker 1: on the practice field, you're inside huddles. You it's like

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Speaker 1: you're a member of the team there when you watch

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Speaker 1: that video. Yeah, it's it is interesting, and it was

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Speaker 1: it's fun to watch too. I was really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it, and it's it's pretty inspiring too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you get a chance to see the leadership that Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott displays. You get a chance to see some of

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Speaker 1: the guys respond to that, and you also get to

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Speaker 1: see some of the fun that they have in training

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Speaker 1: camp and some of the techniques they use for getting

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Speaker 1: these guys to open up to each other and start

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Speaker 1: to trust each other. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: of it. The first edition was Sean McDermott, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's probably a good way to start, right.

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Speaker 1: It's just the coach. Look, he's the guy, he's the

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Speaker 1: central figure down there at training camp, and the camera

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Speaker 1: followed him around a lot in part one of Embedded,

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Speaker 1: both in the meaning room, on the field and and

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Speaker 1: um he's he's he's the guy you want to listen to,

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Speaker 1: and they did, yeah, oh yeah, And that's it's and

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Speaker 1: you can hold a room, that's for sure. And it's uh,

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Speaker 1: you can imagine too. And I said this a lot

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Speaker 1: about people who you know, follow the NFL and and

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Speaker 1: what kind of head coaches, how they act and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Let me imagine yourself stand in front of an NFL

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Speaker 1: football team and having to hold that room, hold their attention. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's a tough crowd. Why because they all they got

757
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: fifty three egos in there who are all pretty good

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Speaker 1: at what they do, and they're all in there because

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Speaker 1: you asked him to be and uh, you know, you

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Speaker 1: got to hold their attention. I mean, these guys are

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Speaker 1: them in practicing, they got stuff. Certainly they want something

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Speaker 1: from you, They want a little direction, they want a

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Speaker 1: little inspiration. But by the same token, you know, they

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Speaker 1: don't have much patience either, because it's uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're there to work and there to get better and

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Speaker 1: if you're not helping him do that, they got no

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Speaker 1: time for you. It's it's tough. We had some response

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Speaker 1: to embedded on our Twitter site. The tweet sheet from

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Speaker 1: Bill's check the thing that surprised me the most is

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Speaker 1: how positive and optimist at McDermott is. He reminded me

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Speaker 1: of a kind dad who never swears at you. He

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Speaker 1: reminded me a lot of Tony Dungee. I wish he

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Speaker 1: was my dad. It's kind of it's kind of sad. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much we want to dive into that. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: um And a tweet from Tom Tyrell. People ask me

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Speaker 1: how I can have so much love for an American

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Speaker 1: football team when I live in England. This video is

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Speaker 1: why Sean McDermott is, why those boys are, why those

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Speaker 1: fans are why. That's why I love them, and that's

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Speaker 1: why I keep going back. Wow, Tom Tyrrell from England.

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Speaker 1: That is that is like a pledge of allegiance the road.

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Speaker 1: This video that coach those boys, That's why I love

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. I imagine Tom Tyrell liked to embedded it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it sounds like it was right in his wheelhouse

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Speaker 1: and you gotta you gotta admit it was. It's uh

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Speaker 1: fun to listen to. It's it's fun to listen to.

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Speaker 1: And that's yeah, I'll tell you what to it. And

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Speaker 1: some of the things you don't see are you know,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of it is not just Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: as you see there people watching MSG. You see him

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Speaker 1: in staff meetings where Sean addresses his coaching staff. He's

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Speaker 1: got to motivate them as well. He's got to give

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Speaker 1: them some direction as well. He's got to get them

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Speaker 1: focused on the right attitude and what he wants them

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Speaker 1: to show and do and tell their team and get

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of that going on, and that's the

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Speaker 1: game football. I don't know that there's any other sport

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Speaker 1: who has that kind of meetings time and that kind

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Speaker 1: is so physically taxing and so physically demanding and ask

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Speaker 1: so much of these players to confront each other physically.

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Speaker 1: You have to pour emotion into it. You got to,

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Speaker 1: you gotta really want to do it to play well.

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Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of what Sean McDermott was

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Speaker 1: a lot of what he of what he asked from

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Speaker 1: his staff is about getting these players to jump in fully,

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Speaker 1: to go in one hundred percent, to not get passed

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Speaker 1: up on a play, to give a full effort every

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Speaker 1: single play. That is what the game and in his essence,

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Speaker 1: it's really about. And that is hard to do when

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Speaker 1: sometimes you get a player who doesn't feel well, who

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Speaker 1: doesn't who's got an injury, he's dragging around, a sore ankle,

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Speaker 1: sore shoulder, sore risk, you name it. When you don't

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Speaker 1: feel one hundred percent, and these guys almost rarely do that,

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Speaker 1: Motivation is hard to come by. Speaking of the meeting room,

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Speaker 1: I thought those are some of the best parts I've

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Speaker 1: embedded the premiere have embedded last night. They take you

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Speaker 1: right in the coaches meeting. Listen to Sean McDermot talked

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Speaker 1: to his coaches after a practice at training camp from

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Speaker 1: last night's premiere of the series embedded. As far as

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Speaker 1: pre snap along both lines really get that cleaned up,

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Speaker 1: intensity or physicality standpoint. So that'll be what I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for tomorrow, and some guys need to understand what our

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Speaker 1: guys coming from college. We also have some guys coming

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Speaker 1: from different teams and so we just need to, you know,

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Speaker 1: acclimate them to how we practice from an intensity, from

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Speaker 1: a physicality standpoint, what we expect. Don't let it slide,

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Speaker 1: address it now, Coach McDermott at the coaches, meaning a

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Speaker 1: couple of more tweets reacting to the premiere of Embedded

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Speaker 1: from Grills Mafia, respecting the process it takes to make

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Speaker 1: a seventeen minute production of Bill's camp alternative to Hard Knocks,

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Speaker 1: no narrator, was different, but made for less drama and

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Speaker 1: more focused on how real and dedicated the players looked.

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Speaker 1: At year McDermott has what it takes the leading an

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Speaker 1: NFL team in twenty eighteen. We were talking about that

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Speaker 1: in the office. It is different from Hard Knocks in

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Speaker 1: a variety of ways, many ways, including the fact that

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Speaker 1: there is no narrator, and it seems to me, Steve

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Speaker 1: at least in episode one last night the premiere of Embedded. No,

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Speaker 1: there's almost a Hard Knocks formula. Here's the guy we're

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00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: gonna make into a dramatic thing. You don't get that

848
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: with Himbedded it was a little bit more detached and

849
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: just watching people go to work. It wasn't about you know,

850
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: this phony issue or that phony issue, you know what

851
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was about the atmosphere. Yeah, it was

852
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: about the standard. It's about the the you know, a

853
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: lot of it is Sean McDermott. And and rightfully so

854
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: there's gonna be three more episodes, and uh, I want

855
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: to see those two. And I don't know that whether

856
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: they'll get away from Sean or whatever. But this was

857
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: about the atmosphere and the tone and the and the

858
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: mindset that he wants from the football team every day. Yeah.

859
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't like this is this big philosophical

860
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: thing he was getting. He got very specific about and

861
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: you see it in team meetings where he says this

862
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: is he and they don't show the player that he's

863
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: pointing to on this video and he's calling him out.

864
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: That's rough. Yeah. But and he said it just there

865
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: at the and that clip he just showed he just

866
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: don't let this slide address it now. That tallenge coaches

867
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Speaker 1: that now address it now. One more from the tweet

868
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: sheet from Michael Tracy unembedded. He says, I thought it

869
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: was fantastic, a brilliant insider's view of the process in action.

870
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: Mcdermot's leadership, high standards and ability to connect personally with

871
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: the players will take this team deep into the postseason

872
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: with regularity. People love embedded and it was really good.

873
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: It is It's and first of it's kind. I mean

874
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: clear people were craving that sort of insider's access. I

875
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: say it's the first of it's kind because it was

876
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: done by the team itself and gave it, gave up

877
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: this this access. And uh, certainly Hard Knocks takes a

878
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: different tone. It's a different formula, like you said, and

879
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: h but this is uh. I thought it was fun

880
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: and uh, I mean had I even had the missus

881
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: sitting down watching it. She was he was like yeah,

882
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: And Michelle does a great job. The cinematography is very cool.

883
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: It's very high end. That was I was like, wow,

884
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: this Saint John Fisher looks better than I remember, you know,

885
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it really did. They had great camera angles,

886
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: had a lot of videos they do. You know, you

887
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: can always tell. I don't know if anybody else thinks

888
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: about this other than guys are in TV like Murph

889
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: and I and the stuff we've done in our past.

890
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: How many cameras you have and how many people in

891
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: the audio you get that matches and how it looks.

892
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: That takes a lot of effort, and they did it.

893
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: They really it was all hands on deck. I was

894
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: really impressed with how it was put together. Buffalo Bills

895
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: Embedded if you missed it last night tonight eight o'clock.

896
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: The first episode will be available at our website Buffalo

897
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Bills dot com, the Bills at Facebook and YouTube, and

898
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: part two of embedded. It's coming up next week every

899
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Wednesday for the next few weeks, and next Wednesday is

900
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: August twenty second. Buffalo Bills Embedded. You can watch it

901
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: live when it comes out on Facebook Watch. Coming up

902
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: next Wednesday, August twenty two. All right, back to the Bills,

903
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: back to this Cleveland game. When we return John Murphy,

904
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, who do you think on the on the

905
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, who do you think has

906
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: needs a good game? Basically, it's what we're saying, who

907
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: needs to redeem himself? Give us a call eight oh

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00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: three five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty one Bills Live from one

910
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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive And this is Buffalo Bills, where welcome back

911
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: to the show. One Bills Live or Archer Park, John

912
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker next door is going to be

913
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: a concert Saturday night in New air Field. We're gonna

914
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: be gone. We're out of here tonight, headed to Cleveland

915
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: for preseason game number two, the Bills and the Browns.

916
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: You know, um, look at that joint, that is what

917
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: are you talking about, the floor of the stadium. Look

918
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: at that Steve's watching. That's set up costs more than

919
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: I ever made as a Buffalo Bill. That They got

920
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: a crew of numbers, They got a crew of thousands

921
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: over there putting up that hole to cover in the stadium.

922
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: With Plywoods concerts here all the time. Why are you

923
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: so blown away by huh? It just seems like a

924
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: massive undertake. You take a walk over there. No one

925
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: of those tickets are like six grand. They're not that much,

926
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: but they're pretty they're pricey. Hey, um, the late Van

927
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: Miller used to say this, and the older I get,

928
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: the more I think he's right about these games. When

929
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: once you know preseason's preseason, offseason can be dreadfully painful. Waiting, waiting,

930
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: waiting you get to training camp. Okay, when now we're

931
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: at camp. Once they play a game and the games

932
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: start coming, it goes fast. I mean I feel don't

933
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: you feel this way? I feel like I'm in ketchup

934
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: mood and mode and I have been all week long

935
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: getting ready to do it exactly. That's and we say

936
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: it all the time when I travel for CBS. Man.

937
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: Once you get that, you get those first couple of games,

938
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: you start to talk, get to know your crew and

939
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: stuff going out. All of a sudden, it's like, oh God,

940
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: are we really going to exchange Christmas cards or some guys.

941
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's time to time. We're done. You know,

942
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: it goes bang bang bang, and you're done with the season.

943
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: Games are coming fast. Now we got one tomorrow night.

944
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: Our Twitter polled about tomorrow's game, which Bill's offensive player

945
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: has a chance to redeem himself the most against the

946
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: Browns Tomorrow night? On Twitter, Forty nine percent of you

947
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: say it is Corey Coleman. Forty two per center you

948
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: say it is another wide receiver J Jones, seven percent

949
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: say it is Nicole Leary, two percent have somebody else

950
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: in mind. And on the line, Ron and lack. I

951
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: wanta has another name we should consider. Ron. Go ahead,

952
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: you're on the air after loon guys, Hi, hey man, Okay.

953
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: As far as the pole, the pole, I'm gonna go

954
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: with John Millard. John Miller, he was in the doghouse

955
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: last year, and I'd like to see him go out

956
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: there and knock some people on the on their butt tonight.

957
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh it's a lonely I mean, and on the Piefa Society.

958
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: I know you don't have a poll for that. I'm

959
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: going with Vont Davis. I thought he played pretty losy.

960
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: He showed me that he was Scholl last week, and

961
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: I hope he plays better and outside Latin Bakers, I'd

962
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: like to see him play a little writer. I don't

963
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: know listens to you guys, Thanks Ron. I mean the

964
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: Devonte Davis played that everybody got everybody's attention. Was the

965
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: mis tackle, right, that was a problem. I thought, Well, yeah,

966
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: the mistackles stand out. I mean, that's the one thing defensive,

967
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: defensively you can't stand is if you got a defender,

968
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: the coordinator puts you in a position. You got a

969
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: defender right there making the you know, making the play,

970
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: and he misses the tackle. That's frustrating for everybody, not

971
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: just the defense, but even the guys on the sideline.

972
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: The offensive guys are going bro come on, man, Yeah,

973
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: that's a hard one. And then they stand out too

974
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: and you can't you can't not see him. John Miller

975
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: is a is an interesting call from Rona Lackawanna is

976
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: an interesting call for a redemption player. I don't know

977
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: that he was he need Does he need redemption? I

978
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: don't know. He didn't have a bad year last year.

979
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: He just didn't play. I mean it's almost as if

980
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: he didn't fit in what they were trying to do

981
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: with that offensive line last year. Now it seems like

982
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: he's a better fit now. It seems like, you know,

983
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: he is ready to play. Does he need redemption tomorrow night.

984
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right word for it.

985
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he needs he needs to play, continue to

986
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: play well, There's no question about that. I think one

987
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: of the things you got to think about is that

988
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: they went through some turmoil in the first half of

989
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: last season at the offensive line. That running scheme that

990
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: uh that Rick Dennison installed did not take and they

991
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: had to revamp and backwards in their running game. Last

992
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: year at the bye week, they went in and went

993
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: back to the pulling guys and trap and could bring

994
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: him across the formation after the snap and knocking guys

995
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: out of the way and shady cutting in behind those blocks.

996
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: And then they went from that to having all five

997
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: guys come off together, get up into the second level

998
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: and just start pushing people. They didn't have the guys

999
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: that were good at that. John Miller was one of them.

1000
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: And when they went back and forth, the offensive line

1001
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: coach who actually saw an embedded Juan Castillo. He had

1002
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: some history with vlad Dukas, So Vladimir Ducas came in

1003
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: from Carolina. They started plugging him in and he kind

1004
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: of understood what was going on and they kind of

1005
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: stuck with him. And John millerby came the backup swing guy.

1006
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: John Miller's back in it, and he came back with

1007
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: a vengeance this offseason. And that's, you know, Ron brings

1008
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: up a good point. There are a lot of guys

1009
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: who want to get back on the field or want

1010
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: to stay on the field, and these games, and particularly

1011
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: this one's going to make a big difference in whether

1012
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: they can do it. A lot more to talk about

1013
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: the Bills Browns game. We're gonna talk about it with

1014
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: the guy who's got the call of the play by

1015
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: play with Steve Tomorrow on the Bills Television Network. Andrew

1016
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: Catalan's gonna join us when we come back. Come on

1017
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: back yourself, got a long way to go. Two more hours.

1018
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: It is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. We're

1019
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: coming here from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio,

1020
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: Blalo Bills Radio Network Sports Update. The update from One

1021
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive today. The Bills said their morning walk through

1022
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: workout today, the day before the game workout, and now

1023
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: they are on the way to Cleveland this afternoon. Preseason

1024
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: game number two coming up tomorrow night at Cleveland at

1025
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: First Energy Stadium on the Lake Shore in Cleveland, seven

1026
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: thirty kick off. You can hear the game right here

1027
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: on our flagship and Buffalo w GR Sports Radio five toifty.

1028
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: I'll have to call it the game with Mark Kelso

1029
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: and salth Capaccio. The Bills and the Cleveland Browns coming

1030
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: up at tomorrow night at seven thirty. Roster moved for

1031
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: the Bill last night. They claimed rookie defensive lineman Albert

1032
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: Havili off waivers from the Chargers. He plays both defensive

1033
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: end and defensive tackle. Product of Eastern Washington, released just

1034
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: a week or so ago, just a couple of days

1035
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: ago really by the Cleveland Browns. He had forty one

1036
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: total tackles for Eastern Washington last year. To make room

1037
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: on the roster, the Bills put defensive tackle Mark kabus

1038
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: Lewis on the waived injured list as his tenure with

1039
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo was going, he came up with an injury. Albert

1040
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Havili with the Buffalo Bills. A report in Cleveland former

1041
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys wide receiver Does Bryant visiting the Browns originally reported

1042
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: by Ian Rappaport last week. Bryant expected to be among

1043
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: a group of wide receivers that the Browns will bring

1044
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: in for a visit. There are reports that he is

1045
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: ready to sign. No confirmation on that yet, but there's

1046
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: a lot of smoke to tie the two parties together.

1047
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: Does Briant visiting the Browns today and may wind up

1048
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: signing with the Browns. Kameo Max training camp holdout is

1049
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: at three weeks now no end in sight. Raiders coach

1050
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: John Gruden is not sweating missing his best player. He

1051
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 1: suggested yesterday that max absence is not a distraction, despite

1052
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: the fact that it gets daily questions on the matter.

1053
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks reached agreement late yesterday with three agent

1054
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: linebacker Eric Walden, worked out for the Seahawks earlier this month.

1055
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: Waldon joins the pass rush rotation and includes Marcus Smith,

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Speaker 1: Barcabeus Mingo and others. He turns thirty three years old

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Speaker 1: on August twenty one, and in the Canadian Football League,

1058
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: Johnny Menzel has been put in the CFL's concussion protocol.

1059
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: According to the Montreal Alouettes, Manzell informed the team's medical

1060
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: Staffe's feeling concussion symptoms. And that is the update. From

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Tasker in our

1062
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: one Buffalo studio in Orchard Park. We miss we miss Rochester.

1063
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: We missed training camp already just one day gone from

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00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: training camp. I missed the fresh air, Steve. I missed

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00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: the sunshine, I missed the friendly faces. I miss the

1066
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: people asking you when you're going in the Pro Football

1067
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. All of that now is gone. I

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00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: just gotta stinky from Steve Tasker. Welcome to the show, Bills,

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00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: Browns tomorrow seven thirty kickoff from a First Energy field

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00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, Ohio, on the lake front there and joining

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00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: us on the subway fresh take online. The guy who

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00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: will have to call of the game on the Bills

1073
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: television network. He's done this for several years with the Bills.

1074
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: Now he's also NFL on CBS play by Playing Man.

1075
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: He's been with CBS Sports since two thousand ten. Happy

1076
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 1: to have our buddy Andrew Catalan on the line with us. Andrew,

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00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve here in Buffalo, thanks for joining us.

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00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: Tasker doesn't have a stink. Guy, come on, I just

1079
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: got it. I don't get it off, but I just

1080
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: got We're playing a new game here, Andrew. Anytime a

1081
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: caller brings up, well, Steve, you gotta be in the

1082
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. We do a shot or whatever, water, pepsi, whatever,

1083
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: it's the best way we can cope with it. Wow,

1084
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: well he should be. We know that. And guys, I'm

1085
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: in Cleveland waiting your arrival. Can't wait for you guys

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00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: to get here, and we can talk to some football.

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00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: We're coming in. Man. We're gonna have dinner tonight. Right.

1088
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: We pick a pick a spot right, Yeah, wherever you

1089
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: want to buy, I'm there perfectly. You bring the cigars

1090
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: and uh, we'll be there. I was just in Cleveland

1091
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: last weekend. I have a good spot for you guys.

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00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: All right, are you coming, You're you're gonna. I can

1093
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: do dinner. Jay Harris, Jay Harris might join us, Andrew.

1094
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: I hope we'll see the more of the Merrier. I

1095
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: can't wait. Awesome. What do you think of you started

1096
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: to get get prepared for this game, I know, and

1097
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: you've kind of kept track of the Bills coming down

1098
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: the offseason. What are your thoughts coming in on the

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00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: early side of this broadcast. Yeah, I'm really excited. I mean,

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00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: there's so many storylines specifically for tomorrow in Cleveland, Tyrod Taylor,

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00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman. As Murph just said in his update, as

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00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: Brian is here, you got the hard Knox with the Browns,

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00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: So there's a lot going on for this game. I

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00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: think we'll have a lot to talk about tomorrow night.

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously with the Bills, the quarterbacks or

1106
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: the to me that you know, the big story, who's

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00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: going to separate themselves here over the next few weeks?

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00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, I had a lot of questions about the

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00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: offensive line going into this summer. I thought they played

1110
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: very well the first unit, albeit in you know, in

1111
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: a small dose last Thursday or last week against Carolina,

1112
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: So that was a good time for me. I love

1113
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: the Bill's defense. I think they made a lot of

1114
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: nice changes there, and I think they've got a lot

1115
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: more depth than maybe in the past. So I'm very

1116
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: optim mistick about this Buffalo season. I think to me,

1117
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: the key is obviously finding the quarterback and making sure

1118
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: that offensive line can can step up in the absence

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00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: of Eric Wood and Richie and Ggnito and Andrew. I'm

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00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: not going to ask you who will start a quarterback

1121
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, but let me put it to you this way.

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00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: If you were the coach, who would you start a

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00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Bills tomorrow night. Well, I mean based

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00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: on what we saw a campus week. I mean, my

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: guests would be AJ mccaren would start, and then Josh

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00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: Allen would come in maybe after that, since Josh work

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00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: with the two so much this week. But that's not

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00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: what I'm asking you, you know that. Look, I would

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00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: love to see a lot more of Josh Allen. You know,

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00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: some of this throws that we saw last week, and

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00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: I watched the broadcast from last week. I mean, he's

1132
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: got a big time arm is scrambling on that third

1133
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: and eleven. I was really impressed with his speed. I

1134
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: think he showed something there. But look, he's been working

1135
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: with the threes and then this week the twos. You

1136
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: got to make sure that first unit is ready to

1137
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: go too with whoever's going to be under sent or

1138
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: so you know if it is. Aj mccaron. Loved to

1139
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 1: see him get a shot and see how that first

1140
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: team offense revolves around him. Who's he taken more snaps

1141
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: obviously with the first team than Josh Allen so far.

1142
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: And you look on the other side of the football,

1143
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: there are all kinds of storylines also Tyrod Taylor, and

1144
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: you look at what's happening in Cleveland, their receiver crew.

1145
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: You look at the four names they're looking at if

1146
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant signs with him. You got Dez Bryant and

1147
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: all the kind of baggage that he brings over as

1148
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: a as a guy that he is, his personality. He

1149
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: got Jarvis Landry who's been giving speeches and then getting

1150
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: in fights and training camp. Josh Gordon is maybe the

1151
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: scariest player on any roster because of you know, his

1152
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: fact that he may not show up. And then you

1153
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: got Antonio Callaway who was just arrested for possession of

1154
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: marijuana and driving with a suspended license. They're a hot

1155
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: mess at wide receiver, but they have got all the

1156
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: talent in the world. They do. I mean, I think

1157
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: HBO picked a really good year for a hard knock.

1158
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: I've watched the last two episodes and it's just wild

1159
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: when you, I mean think about their coaches, Hugh Jackson

1160
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: and then Todd Haley, the offensive coordinator, Greg Williams, the

1161
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators. They've got a lot of personality on this

1162
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: coaching staff. And as you mentioned that wide receiver as well.

1163
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: You know, Tyrod's had a great camp. You know, he

1164
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: seems like he's got a little chip on his shoulder

1165
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 1: after the trade. But Baker Mayfield has played very well.

1166
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: And then for me tomorrow night, they have they have

1167
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: a really good defense I think is starting to gel.

1168
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: He saw a little bit last year. Obviously the record

1169
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: was what it was, but Miles Garrett, Emmanuel Ogba, those

1170
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: guys can really get after the quarterback. So this is

1171
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: a big test for the Bill's offensive line out of

1172
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: the gates or in the first quarter against the Browns

1173
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: defensive starters. And look, I think that being here in Cleveland.

1174
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: My cab driver talked my year off about the Browns.

1175
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, again, it's August, but they are fired up

1176
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: and they were on the road last week. So I

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00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a little bit of a buzz here.

1178
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: They want to see Baker Mayfield, they want to see

1179
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry. I think there's there's an excitement here this

1180
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: summer in Cleveland, and they think maybe things can be

1181
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: different this year. So I think we're gonna we're gonna

1182
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: have a good little atmosphere here. Tomorrow night, we're on

1183
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: the line with Andrew Catalan on the Subway. Fresh Take.

1184
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: Hotline is from the NFL on CBS, and he's got

1185
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: the call on the play by playing the Bills Television Network.

1186
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, the Bills and the Cleveland Browns number one overall.

1187
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: Pick Baker Mayfield. Why do you think it is, Andrew

1188
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: that Hugh Jackson doesn't even give him a chance to

1189
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: win the starting job. I mean, he's been emphatictive. It's

1190
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna be Tyrod Taylor September ninth when they opened up

1191
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. Why do you think that is well?

1192
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Hugh Jackson's been around a lot of quarterbacks

1193
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: in his day, has been an offensive coordinator for many

1194
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: years now in a third year as the Brown's head coach,

1195
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: and he must see this as the way to develop

1196
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: a younger guy. When you have a guy like Tyrod Taylor,

1197
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: I think if Tyrod's out of the equation and it's Baker, Drew,

1198
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: Stanton and Rogan rollback their quarterbacks on their roster, Baker

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00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: Mayfield's the answer. But you know, Tyrod Taylor is not

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00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: going to turn the football over. He's a good leader,

1201
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: as we know from his time with the Bills and

1202
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: what we've seen here at Brown's training camp so far.

1203
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: And you know, Hugh Jackson is tired of losing. He's

1204
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: won one game in two years. And I think that

1205
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: as much as the Browns front office has put their

1206
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: faith in him, he needs to win games and Tyrod

1207
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: Taylor out of the gate gives him the best chance

1208
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: to try to get some WS. I I think, I mean,

1209
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: how if Mayfield has comes in week seven week gate,

1210
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: maybe you see it then but Hugh Jackson wants to win.

1211
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: He's tired of losing. This town is tired of losing,

1212
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: and at least early in the season, Tyrod Taylor gives

1213
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: them the best chance to win games. You know, this

1214
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: game is all about two Andrew the two rosters and

1215
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: needs two teams. The Bills, who with Sean McDermot and

1216
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: the coaching staff last year and all the trades that

1217
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: they made. They everybody I think agrees they overachieved getting

1218
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: into the playoffs last year. They were accused of tank

1219
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: early on. They went on and we all know that story.

1220
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns oh in sixteen last year, but have

1221
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: made some significant changes, got their quarterback first pick of

1222
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: the draft, and bolstered that with some draft picks additionally.

1223
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: So these are two teams coming into this game that

1224
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: have a lot to be optimistic about. The Browns. There's

1225
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: no way they're not going to get better than they

1226
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: were a year ago. And the Buffalo Bills for a

1227
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: team that seems more talented, playing for a coaching staff

1228
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: that gets the most out of whatever talent they have. Yeah, no,

1229
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree Browns will be better And for the Bills.

1230
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, this goes back to day one with Sean

1231
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: McDermott and Brandon Being they've talked about the DNA of

1232
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: guys getting guys that fit their culture, fit their locker room,

1233
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: and I think that you saw not only in the draft,

1234
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: but a free agency the Bills have brought more and

1235
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: more of those character guys in and I think the leadership,

1236
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: even Sean McDermott spoke about it yesterday with Camp closing

1237
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: down about that the player driven leadership just makes it

1238
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: easier to coach. They don't have to worry about some

1239
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: of these headaches that a team like the Browns seems

1240
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: to have right now. They have guys in place that

1241
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: that managed the locker room. And I love that about

1242
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: the approach that McDermot and Bean have making sure that

1243
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: the culture is right, the fit is right. That's what

1244
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: they look for when they draft, when they bring guys in,

1245
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: and I think that made a big difference for the

1246
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: Bills last year, especially as you mentioned Steve all to

1247
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 1: talk about tanking, and as we know a year ago,

1248
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: that didn't bother that this team, they really rallied together.

1249
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: They made it a motivational point throughout the year, and

1250
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: we saw what happened at the end getting into playoffs

1251
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: and Steve and I are I feel sometimes regarding the

1252
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: Bills are too close. You know, to look at at

1253
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: the team, you know, from with a nuanced viewpoint. But

1254
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: from your perspective, what would you think it be the

1255
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: what would be the biggest questions about the Buffalo Bills

1256
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: going into twenty eighteen? What do you what do you

1257
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: think they should be worried about here three weeks before

1258
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: the season begins. Well, I mean, they got to find

1259
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: the right guy to play quarterback week one. I think

1260
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: that they've had a great plan in place to try to,

1261
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, get to that point here throughout camp and

1262
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: now using these preseason games. I mentioned it before, Murphy

1263
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: know that the offensive line to me was a question

1264
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: mark that I had. I mean, Ducas now moving a

1265
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: left guard. Miller only played four games last year. Now

1266
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna start at right guard. You know, the center

1267
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: position is still in flux. So to me, it's not

1268
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: as at least on paper, as good as an offensive

1269
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: line as last year. That doesn't mean they can't turn

1270
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: into a better offensive line or as good as an

1271
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: offensive line, but I do have some questions about that.

1272
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: But you know, I think that defensively, they should be strong,

1273
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: maybe even stronger than last year. There. I say, I

1274
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: think they have really some really nice pieces in place,

1275
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: and I just think about that offense coming together, making

1276
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: sure Lashaw McCoy stays on the field, stays healthy, and

1277
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: I think the Bills will be writ in that mix

1278
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: again just like they were last year. All Right, so

1279
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: you said you're going to pick the restaurant for tonight,

1280
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, pick something nice, and we're you and I

1281
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: neither one are gonna have to pay for this one,

1282
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: so you know, keep that in mind as well, neither

1283
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: one of you. Jay Harris just offered, Oh, excellent, Jay's paying.

1284
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: We're not going to Wendy's anymore. We'll find something better.

1285
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: I'd like where your head's at. I like where your

1286
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: head's at. Hey, Andrew, thanks for this, great to talk

1287
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: to you. We'll see you in Cleveland probably tonight or tomorrow.

1288
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: Thanks sounds great. Thanks for having Thanks Andrew Cantlin. He's

1289
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: the play by playing on tomorrow's television broadcast The Bills

1290
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: in the Browns NFL on CBS announcer's Remember with the

1291
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: CBS since two thy ten, and he joined us on

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01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: the subway Fresh, Tank, Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh. He's one

1293
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: of the great and I think seriously underrated football broadcasters

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01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: out there. I really believe that. I don't think people

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01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: know how good he when I think, even here's the thing,

1296
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for twenty twenty one years, um

1297
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: so I kind of know. I've worked with a handful

1298
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: of guys Don Don Cricky and Gus Johnson, Bill Mcatte,

1299
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: Tom McCarthy and and I've worked as sideline guy for

1300
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: guys like Kevin Harland and uh I an Eagle. Andrew

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01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: You'll see this when you when you listen to the program,

1302
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: when you listen to the game on the television side

1303
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: on Tomorrow night, you'll understand why. You'll see Andrew set

1304
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: up a play and he will sprinkle in information into

1305
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: the broadcast that you will not get in with any

1306
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: other play by play guy on the TV side. He's

1307
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: just really good at weaving that in. And I told

1308
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: him if you got to come over look at his board,

1309
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: why it's yeah, it's a it's a one of those

1310
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: things like it's one of those abstract works of art,

1311
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like you you unless

1312
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: you really painted it you have no idea what's on it.

1313
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's he and he writes hit the you know,

1314
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: the he lights and minute handwriting, but he gets it

1315
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: all in. It's it's pretty amazing and it's it's interesting

1316
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: to see. I'll do that. Oh definitely. Yeah, Well I'm

1317
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: bunch in my board. Mind is good. I've got different colors.

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01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: You know. We've talked about this in a great length

1319
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: because it's people are probably sitting there go roll in

1320
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: their eyes and us talking about it. It's enormously important

1321
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: and everybody's is different, you know, and it's especially important

1322
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: in preseason, I find because there's ninety players and not

1323
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: just that, but they're all coming from different spots, undrafted

1324
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: free agents, rookie free agents, UM, unrestricted free agents, veterans.

1325
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: The grief Carolina had six guys in the same number

1326
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: that had, you know, six guys with two different numbers. Yeah,

1327
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: we got a little bit of that tomorrow two for

1328
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: the Browns. The Browns and this came about for me.

1329
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: We talked about, you know, doing making your own board up.

1330
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns ninety man roster, first and second year players.

1331
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: Thirty four Yeah, thirty four, that's thirty eight percent of

1332
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: their rosters made up of rookies and now I'm sorry,

1333
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: not second year players. Rookies and first year players thirty four.

1334
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to overstate it too much, but I

1335
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: think it's going that direction all over. I'd like to

1336
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to add up the bills before before the

1337
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: show is over, because I know we don't have thirty

1338
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: four first and seconds. No we don't. We'll do it

1339
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: in the may, We'll do it in the break, next break,

1340
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: We'll add it up because it's it's there, and that's right.

1341
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's uh. I really think I see

1342
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: a trend towards guys in that first you know, that rookie,

1343
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: that rookie contract. They're just so valuable that when you

1344
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: get a couple of crucial guys who can who can

1345
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: do it, um, you want to support them with with

1346
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: some guys who aren't that expensive. I mean, that's what

1347
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: it boils down to. It's the economics of the league.

1348
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: And maybe the next CBA, which we hope will happen

1349
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: without a work stoppage, maybe they'll fix it. I see

1350
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: over there counting, how are you Murphy counting? Was? I'll

1351
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: be quiet. It's his public math, it's about twenty four

1352
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: on the Bills. Yeah, like thirty percent less rookies and

1353
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: first year players. That's amazing. That's why. And I respect

1354
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, Andrew obviously knows a lot, and you do

1355
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: as well. I don't have much regard for the Browns

1356
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: chances of being Look, they're not gonna go own sixteen,

1357
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna be good this year.

1358
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: And Dez Brian's not gonna help them much either, by

1359
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: the way. I just you know, if they win three

1360
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: or four games, that would be about right for that group. Yes,

1361
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: and they have a ton of former first rounders who

1362
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: just have sort of languished in the league doing nothing.

1363
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: You talk just a look, we're Buffalo, right. We go

1364
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: seventeen years without a playoff spot here, so we got

1365
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: that issue here. But the Bills are miles ahead of

1366
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns when it comes to a program and

1367
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: establishing a culture and getting a program together to win

1368
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: in the future. I'm talking miles ahead. You talk about

1369
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: the contrast and the storylines in this gamer think about this.

1370
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: This is philosophies again against each other as well. Forget

1371
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor and Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield and Corey

1372
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: Coleman and the draft picks that have switched hands. This

1373
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: is a philosophy. The Cleveland Browns went out and they're

1374
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. Josh Gordon is on his third chance with

1375
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: this that same team they draft players with seemingly and

1376
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: signed players seemingly with zero regard for the kind of

1377
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: human being there or the kind of problems they bring

1378
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: with them. I mean, they got um Antonio Callaway, I mean,

1379
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: and that's the guy they plugged into the number two

1380
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: spot right behind Jarvis Landry. I mean, they got all

1381
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: kinds of issues all over that Florida too, right, they

1382
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 1: don't care about that stuff. And here in Buffalo, they're

1383
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: jettisoning Sammy Watkins, Marcel Darius, Ron Darby, Reggie Raglan. They're

1384
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: jettisoning really talented players just not just because they're not

1385
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: that they were bad guys, but that they weren't buying

1386
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: in and they weren't a culture fit. And that's you

1387
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: can't get on further apart on the spectrum as to

1388
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: what kind of guys both teams are willing to sign.

1389
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: And that's one of the underlying story lines of this

1390
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: whole scenario in this preseason game is both coaches and

1391
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: the staffs and the gms have different philosophies about what's

1392
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: really important to help their team win. It's it's kind

1393
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: of troubling to see the Browns, to be honest with him,

1394
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: and watching the Hard Knocks episode one bothered me just

1395
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: to see a team so dysfunctional so early in the season,

1396
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: with so much draft capitol built up, you know the

1397
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: fact that they've got all those number ones on the

1398
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: roster and have had so many premium draft picks, and

1399
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: still it appears I could be dead wrong on this,

1400
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: but it appears to me not ready to win, not

1401
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: ready even to begin to lay the groundwork for having

1402
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: a winning foundation for a team. I just don't see

1403
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: it there. Well we'll see. We'll get a chance. Now.

1404
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: They won their first preseason game, they beat the Giants.

1405
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: But that means nothing, well, no nothing, none of it

1406
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: means nothing, anything but except for what it shows you,

1407
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: and it's they beat him twenty to ten in New

1408
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: York means nothing, means absolutely nothing. All right, a breakcare,

1409
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: We've got more to come. Steve Tasker and I coming

1410
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: to it from one Bill's Drive tomorrow will be in

1411
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland with the show from noon to three. But we've

1412
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,959
Speaker 1: got more to come. Come on back. Talk a little

1413
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: bit more about which Bill's offensive players have the most

1414
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: at stake tomorrow. Who needs to redeem themselves tomorrow in

1415
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: the game against Cleveland. Give us a call eight oh three,

1416
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

1417
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty one Bills Live from Orchard Park,

1418
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: one Bills Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. I'll go back

1419
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: to one Bill's Live. Steve and I here until three,

1420
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: then we hit the road. The show is in Cleveland tomorrow, Cleveland, Ohio,

1421
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: and of course the big show is tomorrow night, seven

1422
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: thirty at the First Energy Stadium on the Cleveland Lake Shore.

1423
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: It's a good stadium to work out of, Steve. You've

1424
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: been there several times, Yeah, it is. It's a nice stadium.

1425
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's one of the new ones, same

1426
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: spot as the old stadium, which is probably not good karma,

1427
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: but it was all right, And you should warn that.

1428
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: We should warn you though, that the show is gonna

1429
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: take a turn down where because Murph's computer just went

1430
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: belly up. So if I'm bringing it up it, murphs

1431
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: in a funk right now until he gets it back

1432
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: up and run. But we're a hot mess. How many times?

1433
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: How many games did you play in the old Cleveland studiom?

1434
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: I want to handful. Yeah, the playoff game, the eighty

1435
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: nine playoff game, Monday Night Game, the Monday Night game

1436
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: played game I had. I'd probably a game or two

1437
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: before that as well. Yeah, listen that that place was

1438
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 1: up was up pit, That place was on mudhole, sandbox, pilot,

1439
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: junk garbage. If I'd have known when they if that,

1440
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: if I would have known when they tore it down,

1441
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: I would have down, went down and helped them. It

1442
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 1: was a memory I would have The locker room was

1443
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: smaller than our studio. I would have relieved myself on

1444
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: the ashes of that place. That was awful. The locker

1445
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: room was smaller than our studio, the visiting team locker room.

1446
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't it look at our studios? Yes, it was. It

1447
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: was virtual. It was virtually the exact same size as this,

1448
01:09:54,120 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: and it was Yeah. The showers had four inches of

1449
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: raw sewage in the bottom of them. When we turned

1450
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: the wall, it wouldn't go anywhere. It was. It was horrific.

1451
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: It was bad. It was like it was pestilence and

1452
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: disease all rolled into one. I did it. I broadcast

1453
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: a Monday night game there once with Van and a

1454
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: beautiful October Monday night, you guys played beat the Browns.

1455
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: I think Tally had an interception return for Bill Belichick

1456
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: was their head coach. Yeah. Um, but the broadcast booth

1457
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: in the old player You ever a broadcasting game from

1458
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 1: the old playoff all the way on the roof. Oh yeah,

1459
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: And it was like in a like in a liberty Plywood, right,

1460
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean it was yeah, Yeah, it was like when

1461
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: I used to do games, you know, Barker at roy

1462
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: Hard right all the way on the roof, and once

1463
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: you got there by elevator, you were pretty much stuck

1464
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: there until the end of the game. You weren't coming down.

1465
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: So Monday night football nine o'clock kickoff back then I

1466
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: get up there at six thirty seven o'clock. I gotta

1467
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: kill two two and a half hours. Jack Buck was

1468
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: doing radio play by play from Monday in football, Joe Bucks. Yeah,

1469
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: and he and I were basically trans legend. There he

1470
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: was and he was amazing. We stood on the roof

1471
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: for Cleveland stadium, watched the fans come in and talk

1472
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: baseball for like an hour and a half and yeah,

1473
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: you would have been yeah, you would have been off.

1474
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: But we're talking about the old Saint Louis Cardinals of

1475
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: the sixties and Bob Gibson and he's telling me stories.

1476
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: It was one of the most memorable nights I've ever

1477
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: had to listen to a baseball legend like Jack Buck

1478
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: talk about his team, the Saint Louis Baseball Cardinals. Was

1479
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: such passion and just detail and attention to tail. It

1480
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: was an amazing night. And then we went into the

1481
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: Bills in the Browns. Yeah you want to hear my

1482
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: Jack Buck story? Yeah, okay, So you remember Bruce to Haven,

1483
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: my special terms coach. God rest his soul. He's one

1484
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: of my one of my all time mentors, and I

1485
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: had a lot of love and respect for him, and

1486
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: he was, you know, coaching for different teams during the time.

1487
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: They went in to Cleveland back in the day. He

1488
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: loved and he saw Jack Buck and Bruce de Haven.

1489
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: And this sounds very Norman Rockwelly ish, but it's true.

1490
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: Bruce lived in a small town and he and I

1491
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: connected because he grew up in a small town in Kansas,

1492
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 1: like I didn't. He listened to the Saint Louis Cardinals

1493
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: faint on a transistor radio, laying in bed at night

1494
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: in what small western Kansas town listening to Jack Buck.

1495
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: So he had that in his boyhood, you know, he said,

1496
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: a little boy listening to the baseball on his radio.

1497
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: So he goes up and as a football coach and

1498
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: says hello to him as a fan, just said and Jack,

1499
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: he said, could have been nicer, and he said yeah,

1500
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: And Bruce said, yea, I haven't stand Musual was my guy,

1501
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: you know, and I remember calling and listening to. So

1502
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: that goes on and they had that conversation and Bruce

1503
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more impressed with how great the guy was.

1504
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: Later on same thing, Monday night football game, he sees

1505
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: him again and Jack comes up and he says out

1506
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: they're talking, and Jack goes, oh yeah, He goes, I

1507
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: remember we had that conversation. He rints down, reaches into

1508
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: his briefcase and pulls out a baseball signed by stand Musical.

1509
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: He goes, I knew I was gonna see you here.

1510
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: You go, Bruce to have and took imagine that whoa

1511
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: how great. You know, you'd go up and talk to

1512
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: the guy and he goes, I knew I was gonna

1513
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: see you, So I asked Stan if he'd do that

1514
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: that presto chango. Yeah, and that was you know those

1515
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: kind of stories. It gives you chills, right does it?

1516
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: Just did? Jack Buck was amazing. Joe Buck is a

1517
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: good guy. I know he's he's kind of a divisive figure.

1518
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: You met Joe Buck listens. Play by play guys are

1519
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: always divisive, especially because particularly local play by play Joe Buck.

1520
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: I told Joe that story about his dad and talked

1521
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: about Joe's book This is a super Bowl a couple

1522
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: of years ago, talk about his work on the on

1523
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: the Fox World series, the Indians and the Cubs. We

1524
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: had a remarkable conversation for forty five minutes. But that's

1525
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: my that's my favorite. Now. The other thing that happened

1526
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: to Cleveland Stadium was you know the um the K

1527
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: gun was born. But the Bills lost that playoff game. Yeah,

1528
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: the running Harmon game. Yeah, when when he dropped that

1529
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: corner out, but he thought he was going to go

1530
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: out of bound, so he started thinking about it a

1531
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: little too much. But yeah, that was that was a game, man,

1532
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: that was that was a great That was a great

1533
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: game we lost. That's how about that. The legacy of

1534
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: the team that I was on is all the great

1535
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: games we lost. But there was a memorable game that

1536
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: it really was and I'll tell you this too. You

1537
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: talk about that. That was at the end of the

1538
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine season. Was when we were the bickering Bills,

1539
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: and about two or three games before that is when

1540
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 1: that team became something different from the bickering Bills. And

1541
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: that that game in Cleveland, that playoff game where you know,

1542
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: Ronnie let that ball get through his hands. That game

1543
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: was the testament to how good our team was going

1544
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: to be as a playoff game. And Jim and Therman

1545
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: was going off and we went no huddle and it

1546
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: was a horrible surface, a horrible stadium. Were great. Yeah,

1547
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: that's the one where and yeah, Beebes was upside down.

1548
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: We had. It was just a phenomenal, phenomenal game and

1549
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: it was so fun um wow, you know. And the

1550
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: thing that I remember about it, which you know, was

1551
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: that stinks to this day. As Eric Metcalf returned to

1552
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: kick against us in that game, man I was on

1553
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: ran right by me and I couldn't get him, you know,

1554
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: so that kind of sticks with me and a game

1555
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: we lost, a remarkable game. It was a phenomenal It

1556
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 1: was a phenomenal game with all the great players on

1557
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: both sides of the Bernie Kozar, Clay Matthews, Oh, I

1558
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: was you talk? Yeah, that's an epic game. It was fun. Well,

1559
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: that was the old Cleveland Stadium. There have been some

1560
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: memorable Bills Browns matchups in the new Cleveland Stadium now

1561
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: First Energy Field, including you were not there, I don't think, Steve,

1562
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: did you do? And on TV the famous snow game

1563
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: there in Cleveland. Yes, you were on the TV. Yes,

1564
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: I was on a TV broadcast. And that was a

1565
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: difficult game to Yeah, they didn't have as good a

1566
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: handle on it as we the Bills did last year

1567
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: because they couldn't clear off, They had no way to

1568
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: clear off the field, and the snow came an hour

1569
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: before kickoff, and so it was bad all the way through.

1570
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: And it was a game as bad as the Colt

1571
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: game this this last year in Buffalo. In fact, it

1572
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: was almost identical, except that I think the Buffalo guys,

1573
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: the crew had it better with the snowblowers getting the

1574
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: yard lines. We had a graphic made up during the game,

1575
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: they put this graph together. They'd show the wide shot

1576
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: all twenty two of the field and have the yard

1577
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: markers on the graphic so the camera couldn't move, but

1578
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: you could see where the twenty and the forty and

1579
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: that's fifty yard lines were because of the graphic that

1580
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: we put together right there on that game, it was Yeah,

1581
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: it was memorable. And that was in the new stadium, right, Yeah,

1582
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: Bills are gonna play there tomorrow night time on the

1583
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: line from Randolph, New York. Once. So walk down memory

1584
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: lane a little bit time, go ahead, you're on the air. Well, Yeah,

1585
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: so a little Steve this thought in a comment I

1586
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: wanted to pass along to you, since there's been quite

1587
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: a little bit conversation on radio about integrity and work

1588
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: ethics and all that sort of stuff. I wanted to

1589
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: get playing you a compliment that still I still think

1590
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: of and see to this day, and my son does.

1591
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: Many years ago, they were by our school local schools

1592
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: at the Rich Stadium for playoff games and we had

1593
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: to wait on the bus because we were early in

1594
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: your practice wasn't over, and they weren't for her to

1595
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: go in. But anyway, after the we were cleared to

1596
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: go in, you came out to the buses, not just

1597
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: our bus, but every bus out there, and you went

1598
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: around to the buses. I don't know if you remember this,

1599
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: and uh, and talk to the players, hypeied them through

1600
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: the window and that sort of stuff. And to this day,

1601
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: my son still remembers that. And if we had more

1602
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: players like you in the NFL, things wouldn't be like

1603
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: the state they are in today. What state is that?

1604
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: None the Stave Lake Cleveland's having right now with the

1605
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: issues of the players and you know, and and all

1606
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. Okay, yeah, well I appreciate that's

1607
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: that's really nice. I appreciate Tom. That's nice. I appreciate that.

1608
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: I would never have remembered that on my own, but

1609
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: when you started talking about I remember, and I kind

1610
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: of remember that. Yeah, that was a long time ago,

1611
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: a long time ago. But yeah, that's Uh, that's fun.

1612
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: I like seeing young football players because I know how

1613
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: fun it is to be a young football player. I

1614
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: like talking to him and hear him what's important to him.

1615
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: It's it is fun. I appreciate Tom. Thanks for that

1616
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I'm glad I made a good impression. Sometimes

1617
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: when people come in and preface there's question or thought

1618
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: like that. I kind of look at Murph thing and

1619
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: have the off button ready. I don't know what I did.

1620
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: Thanks very much, appreciate Tom. I'm at in Tonawanda. You're

1621
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: on the air with the I'm ed, Hey, Murph, are

1622
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: you doing great? Tiger Tasker? How are you, sir? I'm okay.

1623
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry man, I'm only fifty. You know my father

1624
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: he's not around, but I'll tell you what. He's had

1625
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 1: an accent. You know, it was from the old country.

1626
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: Whatever worked at Betheim Steel. It used to always say,

1627
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: look at that little ticket tasker. That's great where he

1628
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: was like witted the pool who was a beer whatever.

1629
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: That's all right because you rut offense, you're right defense.

1630
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: You know that was pretty neat and you out of

1631
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: bounds on that touchdown pass, just like when Josh Halon

1632
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: threw that bomb. So if you were out there, they

1633
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: would accounted it. Yeah, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call.

1634
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I understand that you said that Cleveland

1635
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: had thirty four first round or no, no, thirty four

1636
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: first or rookies or first year players in Buffalo, Murphy said,

1637
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: had twenty four. I believe that's account I just added

1638
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: up quickly. You add up quickly how many first rounds

1639
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: picks we dep those? I don't know if you did

1640
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: that previously. And I think the Builds are about six

1641
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: first rounders, right, Tredevious, Tremayne, Josh Allen, Shack Lawson, Star

1642
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: Lotu Laala former first round pick? How many is that?

1643
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: At five? And there? Am I missing somebody? Davis was

1644
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: in the first round? You're right, hide No, I was

1645
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: just wondering how many total offensive defense line everybody on

1646
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: the two? Like, I mean, we I think we have

1647
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot of we gave up a lot of first rounds.

1648
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: Well we got six or seven, right we Yeah, we

1649
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: have six or seven of them. That that's about all

1650
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,959
Speaker 1: there us. The Browns I think have quite a significant

1651
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: number more than that. Yeah, don't listen, I said. First

1652
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: year players are rookies on the Browns first not first

1653
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: round draft picks. Rookies are first year players. Thirty four.

1654
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: That's a lot. My point was, and I'll repeat it,

1655
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: they're young, and then they're not that good. They're really

1656
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: not going to be that good this year. That's it's

1657
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: a lot of youth on one team. Thanks for calling.

1658
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: Here is a film in Pittsburgh, New York, Phil. How

1659
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: are things in Pittsburgh? We miss it? Yeah, good guys.

1660
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing good? Miss pittsforgh Yeah and

1661
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: a Pittsford's cool and I think we have a really

1662
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: cool environment for the Buffalo build. Yeah, yeah, we agree.

1663
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: Listening to some of the interviews, it was encouraging to

1664
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: hear being in and coaching the Germans say that there

1665
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: should be here for their tenure. So sure, yeah, I

1666
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: know that a lot of that came up earlier this summer,

1667
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: but I think they enjoy it down there and they've

1668
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: got it down. I know you have another issue here,

1669
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: fill and we're gonna let you get to it. But

1670
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: see if I believe they've got camped down to manageable

1671
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: length in Rochester. Now, you know it's it's three weeks

1672
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: almost exactly. Well, I ended it up. I think it's

1673
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: I was at thirteen of sixteen practices over a three

1674
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: week span. You know that's that's enough. It's good you

1675
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: get away and now you're back, and it's if you

1676
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: do it now if you end the Pittsford segment, now

1677
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: you cut the preseason just about right in half, right,

1678
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: three weeks down, three to go into the regular season.

1679
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: I think it's perfect. Yeah. What was your other issue, Phil? Yeah, yeah,

1680
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't know the issue, but I have two points

1681
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: and I'll hang up to Guess and talk about it.

1682
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: First is Murk no offense. But I usually find myself

1683
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 1: agreeing with tasks or more than you agree with you.

1684
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: With the Browns, it just looks like a Rex Ryan

1685
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 1: two point zero. Just a disaster, you know, And which

1686
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 1: leads me to my next point. Um, the foundation that

1687
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: the Bills are our building in Rochester is for the

1688
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: like it just feels like they're building this foundation from

1689
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: the bottom up, just to win for the future, you know.

1690
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: And you know, watching em betted last night, I was

1691
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess put the sleep hard board

1692
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: because I've been I'm an avid Bills fan, so I

1693
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: listen to you guys every day. Then I listened to

1694
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: the sports bar and all I hear it's a process, process,

1695
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: the process, and then then Betty comes out and it's

1696
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: a process again. Yea, And what the one thing that

1697
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: I just questioned with this whole process, and and you know,

1698
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: you know, in in building this foundation is they keep

1699
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:33,560
Speaker 1: on saying that we are they preach playoffs caliber, and

1700
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: I just feel like that just comes up a bit

1701
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: short where it should be a championship caliber team. So anyway,

1702
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: I'll hang up the phone and listen. But I really

1703
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, and thanks so much, thank you, thank you.

1704
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: Going it's a fair point. I mean, you to uh,

1705
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: playoff caliber instead of championship caliber. I think what happens

1706
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: in and when you get to that. Listen, when when

1707
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: you get to playoff caliber, I think for me, you

1708
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: are championship caliber because I've seen these teams go from

1709
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: wildcard all the way in. The Raiders were the first

1710
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: to do it thirty years ago, forty years ago, go

1711
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: from the wildcard round all the way into the super

1712
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: Bowl and win it. But but I get your point

1713
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: as for Pittsburgh and the Pittsford and the reason the

1714
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: Bills still go a lot of the reason that it's

1715
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: gonna come up again next year when they go back,

1716
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: they'll say, hey, how long are they gonna do it?

1717
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: How long are they gonna keep coming back? That it

1718
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: keeps coming up because teams have stopped doing it around

1719
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: the league. Not everybody does it, not everybody. In fact,

1720
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: most teams do not go anywhere for training. It's like,

1721
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he's know if it's ten, but maybe okay.

1722
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: And then M and I do agree too that they're

1723
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: they're building a foundation. And it was their mantra when

1724
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: when Brandon Bean first got the job here in Buffalo.

1725
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: You want to win now and set yourself up to

1726
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: win in the future, now and in the future. And

1727
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: I think they've really stuck to that, and I think

1728
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: it's the discipline they've shown in doing that that has

1729
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,480
Speaker 1: carried them through this last offseason. They have not deviated

1730
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: at all from their plan. And I got to tip

1731
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: your hat because a lot of people, you know, the

1732
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: coaching staffs, get a little impatient. If a guy like

1733
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: a Josh Allen or a Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold

1734
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: have a really nice outing like some of them have,

1735
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: they get impatient. They say, well, now, let's move it faster,

1736
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: let's make that, let's let's accelerate the plan. The Bills

1737
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: have never done that. They've stuck close to what they

1738
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: think will work and has what's been proven to work

1739
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 1: at other times, or at least most often, to work

1740
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: at other places and other times, and they're not going

1741
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: to deviate from it. That to me is as difficult

1742
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: as you know, establishing the culture in the first place. Yeah,

1743
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,879
Speaker 1: and it's you're right, and I think it's also impressive,

1744
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: and that things don't always go their way, you know

1745
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. Injuries happen, u situations present themselves. I mean,

1746
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: you have a plan, you have a process, but you

1747
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: gotta be flexible. And I think that they are when

1748
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: you look at the moves they make and the moves

1749
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: they've made even last summer, you know, trading away Darby

1750
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: and uh and um Sammy Watkins. Um. You know, you

1751
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: can have your process and your plan and you and

1752
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: part of your plan has to be we can switch

1753
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: at a moment's notice. And I think they've demonstrated they

1754
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: can do that as well. All right, Steve and I

1755
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: Backla Moore. Let's talk to you. Phone lines open eight

1756
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: oh three fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

1757
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: by fifty two five fifty. You may have an idea

1758
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: which player on the Buffalo Bills offense is looking for

1759
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: redemption tomorrow night? Who has a chance to redeem themselves

1760
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: the most against the Browns. Give us a call, we'll

1761
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: talk about it. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive

1762
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio, doing the show till three in

1763
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: the car till six, and another show coming up tomorrow

1764
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: noon two three from Cleveland, Ohio. I'm starting to get

1765
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: dinner suggestions from Lizzie Gott. I give your mind, you know, Yeah,

1766
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: I get you gave me here. I'm not gonna get

1767
01:25:58,520 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: into I'm not telling you know. I'm not gonna get

1768
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: in here and start talking about all the restaurants in Cleveland.

1769
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I want barbecue ribs or not.

1770
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's just my son looked at school. My

1771
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: son went to school there in Case Western. So yeah,

1772
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of good restaurants around Case Western. Oh,

1773
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: Little Italy's right there. It's that's great. I was just

1774
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: in Cleveland last Friday Saturday. I got a good place

1775
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: for you. Um, all right, let's take some more phone calls.

1776
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: Make me a reservation. We can talk about whatever you'd like. Um,

1777
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: and especially if you think there's somebody needs to redeem

1778
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: themselves on the Buffalo Bills offense. Jerry and Tonawanda is

1779
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Jerry, go ahead, you're on

1780
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: the air. Hey guys, I just want to change subject

1781
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: just for a second fan as well as a Bills fan,

1782
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: and I watched and I just know that I never

1783
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: knew this, but Don Beebe son is trying out for

1784
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Watched David's a game. He looked pretty good.

1785
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna catch on. Got a touchdown, yeah,

1786
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: Chad Beebe he got a touchdown last weekend Sunday. Yeah.

1787
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: He's trained with some of my sons and and of

1788
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: course Don trained him, did the Speed camp, the House

1789
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: of Speed that Don Beebe invented in runs and uh

1790
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: has some franchises around. Chad was a little prodigy and

1791
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Don's all of Don's exercises. Had a really nice career

1792
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: in Northern Illinois. Got signed by the Vikes and listen,

1793
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: he can go, he can scoot. His size and durability

1794
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: might be an issue, but he's got skills and he's

1795
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: a great kid. Touchdown in the preseason. Yeah, so we'll see. Yeah,

1796
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: we're pulling. Yeah. I absolutely knew that Chad baby was

1797
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: up and and and playing so and I know that

1798
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: Don will be there watching every game of the Vikings

1799
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: that he's there. He's in just outside of Chicago in

1800
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: high school. Yeah, yeah, we've talked him about that. Yeah,

1801
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: here's a Ron in Rochester. Go ahead, and Ron, welcome

1802
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: to the show. Hey, thanks for having me on. This

1803
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: goes a long time ago on a play far far away.

1804
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: Back in the day, you guys the Bills were able

1805
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 1: to go to high schools and play basketball. I played

1806
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: against you, Steve, and I've often thought I was a

1807
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: pretty good athlete. But I saw you do something that

1808
01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: was just unbelievable. And tell me, did I imagine? Was

1809
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: it true? You hand dunked and warm up? Is that true?

1810
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: That is true? Yeah, as a lifetime ago. That's by that.

1811
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Because I'm at least four or five inches taller, I

1812
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: could give my hand on the basket. My my, my

1813
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: biggest story about that Ron is go ahead. No, he's

1814
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: gone go ahead, all right. My biggest story about that

1815
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: Ron is Jim took us down. Jim Kelly took all

1816
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: this group. We had this basketball team. He used to

1817
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: play at high schools for charity. And you know, they'd

1818
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: give us, they'd split the gate with us, they'd sell

1819
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: out their gym and we'd split the money for the

1820
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: for the time we get a you know, one hundred

1821
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: bucks or something to to go play a hoop game

1822
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: and we'd get a run in. So Jim takes us

1823
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: down to East Brady, PA. And Jim's old one of

1824
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: Jim's older brothers had a state championship basketball team. We're

1825
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: gonna play those guys the state champions. They were the

1826
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: state champions for that school class in Pennsylvania. I guess

1827
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 1: back in seventy but just seventeen eighteen year old, right,

1828
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 1: but they're now they're forty two, forty three. Okay, this

1829
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: is when we were playing your ball, right, So I

1830
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: don't know how old they were then. But so we

1831
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: show up with the crew and it's like Biscuit and

1832
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: Will Wolford and Jim and me and you know, Beabs

1833
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: is there. So we start to warm up and the

1834
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: gym is small, but it's full. I mean it's you

1835
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: can't get near it, right, So we go out to

1836
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: warm up and I did that. I slam dunk two

1837
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 1: hands backwards and they It was funny because all Jim's buddies,

1838
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: the old he knows all the guys were playing right

1839
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: because they're small town. So they all thought we're gonna

1840
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: get you know, those guys thought state champions. We're gonna

1841
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: give these guys a run because we got guys in

1842
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: and so they they saw me when I when I

1843
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: did that in the warm up, that's when they knew,

1844
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: you know what, this is just gonna be a joke.

1845
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: We just have fun because I, oh, come on, man, yeah, yeah,

1846
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was not close. It was and the

1847
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 1: gym Hoosiers made it look Hoosiers looked like a taj mahole.

1848
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: And I said Gym's high school, Jim's High School was

1849
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: little by any standard. Man on the line from Hamburg,

1850
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: go ahead, Manny, Welcome to the show. Oh, good answer, noon, gentlemen.

1851
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: Two things, Jonathan, mate. The first one is for Steve.

1852
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: We have a receiver now. They had two surgeries in

1853
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: his right hand catching balls from a guy that probably

1854
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: throws one of the hardest balls in the NFL. Would

1855
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: that be a problem in the future, especially in cold weather.

1856
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: You talk about Coleman, Yes, he had surgery. It was

1857
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: it was. It was a broke on either hand. And

1858
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so. UM, I don't know, UM, I

1859
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: it's I get the idea, and you're right, Josh Allen

1860
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: does throw a hard pass, but I don't think it's

1861
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: going to cause anybody to break their hands. Okay, Can

1862
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: I ask my second question, jo Absolutely? Okay. The other

1863
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: one is, um, it seems like our tight ends are

1864
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: doing better and better. Not too sure about our wide receivers.

1865
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: With the ball being from New England, is it possible

1866
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: that we could have an offense where we would have

1867
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: two tight ends like they had with her Nandez and Gronkowski.

1868
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: As far as an offensive package, well, I mean, I

1869
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: you know, I saw I was watching yesterday. I saw

1870
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: three tight end packages. I think you're gonna be multiple

1871
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: and versatile. And I saw three tight ends on the

1872
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: field a couple of times and yesterday's practice. So yeah,

1873
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: they'll run two tight ends now, well they have. Are

1874
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: you saying the caliber of tight ends that Grenkowski and

1875
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 1: Hernandez were Probably not. Those are two great athletes. But

1876
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: there'll be multiple tight ends on the field for sure.

1877
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh sure. And one of the reasons I think you're

1878
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: seeing him play a little better is because of the

1879
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: two things the offensive coordinator and the kind of quarterbacks

1880
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: he got thrown these guys are you know, they're throwing

1881
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: them spread in the football around a little better than

1882
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: it happened with Tyrod, and the offensive coordinator is setting

1883
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Speaker 1: guys like Charles clay Up and Croom and Logan Thomas

1884
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: for more success. He's used them more and I think

1885
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: that it comes from different aspects of your offense. But

1886
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 1: there's no question that I agree with you. The tight

1887
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: ends are looking better, but there's a lot of reasons

1888
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 1: for it. Yep, a break here. We're back with mar

1889
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Browns. There's a lot to

1890
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 1: talk about with the Cleveland Browns. Mary Kay Cabot, who

1891
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: covers them for Cleveland dot Com, is going to join

1892
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: us when we come back, So come back with us.

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

1894
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Speaker 1: Bills Radio, Hills Radio Network Sports Update from One Bill's Drive.

1895
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: The Bills. We're here. The players and coaches were here

1896
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: this morning for a brief walkthrough and now they're gone

1897
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: in the air as we speak, on their way to Cleveland,

1898
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Ohio to play the Browns and preseason game number two tomorrow.

1899
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: The Bills, coming off their preseason loss last Thursday night

1900
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 1: hook up against the Browns tomorrow night, seven thirty kickoff

1901
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 1: at First Energy Stadium. You can see preseason game number

1902
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: two on the Bills Television Network. You can hear it

1903
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: on our flagship here in Buffalo and up and down

1904
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: the Bills Radio Network. Myself, Mark Kelso and Salcapaco on

1905
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: the sidelines. No word on who will start a quarterback

1906
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: for the Bills in that game tomorrow night. Roster moved

1907
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: for the Bills yesterday as training camp came to an

1908
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 1: end in Rochester. The team claimed rookie defensive lineman Albert

1909
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Habili off waivers from the Los Angeles Chargers. He plays

1910
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: both defensive tackle and defensive end. He is a rookie.

1911
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: To make room for him and the roster of the Bills,

1912
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: designated defensive tackle our Quavius Lewis waived injured. Cleveland is

1913
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 1: an interesting team, clearly coming off their own sixteen season,

1914
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: and the Browns looked like they're getting set to sign

1915
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant to a contract. Pre age and wide receiver

1916
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 1: visiting with a team today, and it couldn't lead to

1917
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: the three time Pro Bowlers signing with a team to

1918
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who are looking for more playmakers. Does Bryant

1919
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,799
Speaker 1: released by the Dallas Cowboys in April after eight season.

1920
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: He has shown interest in joining the Browns. He's twenty

1921
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: nine years old. Cleveland needs receiving help. Receiver Jarvis Landry

1922
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: and quarterback Tyrod Taylor have been lobbying publicly for Dez Bryant,

1923
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: and he is meeting with the team's team today. Khalil

1924
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: Max training camp holdout is up to three weeks now

1925
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: and no end in sight. Raiders coach John Gruden says

1926
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: he's not sweating it out. He says he does not

1927
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: think it's a distraction. It's disappointing. The guy's a great guy.

1928
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm disappointing we don't have him here, but it's not

1929
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: a distraction. Seahawks have signed a free agent linebacker Eric

1930
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,759
Speaker 1: walden Do a contract he worked out for him earlier

1931
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: this month, and also from the Canadian Football League. Johnny

1932
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: Manzel has been put in the CFL's concussion protocol. He

1933
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 1: told the Alouette's medical staff on Tuesday he was feeling symptoms.

1934
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel will be closely observed and monitored over the

1935
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Speaker 1: next few days. And that is the update from One

1936
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Speaker 1: Bills Drive. John Murphy Steve Tasker on our way to

1937
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Speaker 1: Cleveland after our show today. We'll do a show there

1938
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow from noon to three, and of course we have

1939
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: the broadcast of the Bills and the Cleveland Browns coming

1940
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 1: up tomorrow night, seven thirty at the First Energy Stadium

1941
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 1: on the Lake. Who were in Cleveland joining us on

1942
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: the line right now the subway fresh Dake hinline to

1943
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: talk about the Browns is a close observer for Cleveland

1944
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: for several years. She is the beat writer for Cleveland

1945
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 1: dot Com covering the Browns. Very happy to have Mary

1946
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: Kay Cabot on the line with us. Mary Kay's John

1947
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us today.

1948
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me guys, It's great to talk with you.

1949
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant, Yes, knows it going to happen. What do

1950
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, Well, he's here today and it's just a

1951
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 1: matter of how this visit goes. Do they find that

1952
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 1: it's a fifth. The sounds also still expecting Josh Gordon

1953
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: to come back, so that will factor into this too.

1954
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: If they think they're going to get Josh back. You

1955
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, you know, will you have enough

1956
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 1: quality reps for all of these guys to go around.

1957
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Can you keep Jervis Landry happy and Josh Gordon and

1958
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 1: does Bryant and then Tony ocallaway. So, in one respect,

1959
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: is a good problem to have, but something they're going

1960
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 1: to have to work through today as does is in town.

1961
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: What is the timeline on Josh Gordon? Is he going

1962
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: to make it back for Week one or any are

1963
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: training camp or any of the preseason. You know, there

1964
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: are still people that I talked to. I think he's

1965
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,839
Speaker 1: going to be back, possibly in time for the Openers.

1966
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: So I don't know for sure. Everyone one's been very

1967
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 1: very secretive about this, but there are some people that

1968
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: are optimistic that he is going to make it back

1969
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: for the Steelers. Hey, Mary, Kate Steve brought this up

1970
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: on our show earlier today, and I want to get

1971
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: you to weigh in on this chemistry issues. If Dez

1972
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 1: Brian is there, if Josh Gordon comes back, Jervis Landry

1973
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 1: strong personality, I mean, how much personality can you handle

1974
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 1: it that one position group and that one wide receiver's

1975
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: meeting room, Well, it's a lot, It would be a lot.

1976
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: And you know when they sit down with says Bryant,

1977
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: and I've been writing this and saying, they're going to

1978
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,640
Speaker 1: have to tell him that, look, will sign you to

1979
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: this one year prove it deal, but you must stay

1980
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: in your lane. We want no distractions, we don't want

1981
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: social media rants. We don't want you bringing any negative

1982
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: energy to this football team. And if you do, this

1983
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: isn't going to work out. I mean, they have to

1984
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: lay down the law. They cannot afford any more distractions

1985
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 1: in this topsy turvy receiver room. It's just, you know,

1986
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: it becomes a circus show after a while, if that's

1987
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: what it's going to be. So they've really got to

1988
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: tell him that, in no uncertain terms, we're not putting

1989
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: up with anything. How is this affecting Tyrod Taylor and

1990
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,879
Speaker 1: of course Baker Mayfield as well? I mean, the quarterbacks

1991
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: are throwing to all these guys. Do they have guys

1992
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: other than you know, those top four guys that you're

1993
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: looking you're talking about. Of course, Josh Gordon isn't even

1994
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 1: in the mix right now. Who else is going to

1995
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 1: step in? And is it affecting the quarterbacks? Well, I

1996
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: think the quarterbacks are strong enough in any of themselves

1997
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: to handle the quote unquote Divo receiver types that they

1998
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 1: might have to be dealing with. If you bring in

1999
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 1: a DOZ and you have some of these guys on

2000
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: the team, I think they can handle it. I think

2001
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 1: that Tyrod Taylor is a veteran and he's been around

2002
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 1: long enough. This is his eighth season in the NFL.

2003
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: He watched how Joe Black will handle things for four

2004
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: years before he stepped out and became a starter in

2005
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: his own right, as you guys know, so you know

2006
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: he can handle these kind of guys. I'm pretty sure.

2007
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he's worried about that. Then Baker Mayfield

2008
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: is the same. He's started forty six games in college.

2009
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't think this is not like somebody that has

2010
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: started twelve games and you come in and you're going

2011
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: to try to be handling really strong, strong receiver personality.

2012
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 1: Baker has got a way about him. He's a leader,

2013
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: and I don't think that it would be issue for

2014
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: him either. On the Yeah Subway Fresh Take Hotline with

2015
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: Mary Kay, Cabot covers the Browns for Cleveland dot Com.

2016
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 1: Also Brown's analysts for w k YCTV and NBCSN in Cleveland.

2017
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: Mary Kay one more receiver one former Browns receiver to

2018
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: ask about Corey Coleman, traded away to the Bills a

2019
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,959
Speaker 1: couple of Sundays ago. What do you think his prospects

2020
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: are here? And why was it that the Cleveland Browns

2021
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 1: gave up on him fairly early in his career. Well,

2022
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: he had, you know, he got into the doghouse kind

2023
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: of early on for a number of reasons. I think

2024
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: one of the strikes against him here was with a

2025
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 1: lot of people was that he, you know, he was

2026
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: the first player picked in the h with the bounty

2027
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 1: of picks that they received from the Carson Wentz trade,

2028
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: and when things went south with you know, Hugh Jackson

2029
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 1: and Sashi Brown. I just think this was viewed as

2030
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: just an unnecessary pick, not a great way to start

2031
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: trying to rebuild your franchise with a you know, with

2032
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 1: the receiver and maybe you know, not a real big

2033
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 1: I and all those different kinds of things. It just

2034
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 1: I think he got off on the wrong foot, and

2035
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: then he couldn't stay healthy. He had hamstring injuries, he

2036
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 1: had a broken hand in each of his first two seasons,

2037
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: and think he just never got on the right track.

2038
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: And then there was an incident in uneasy that his

2039
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: his apartment where he and his brother and his friend

2040
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: were at least at the scene of you know, a

2041
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 1: young man from a suburb of Cleveland who you know

2042
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 1: allegedly got beat up and was allegedly basically left unconscious

2043
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: in Corey's parking lot. Now Corey was never charged with anything.

2044
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: His brother was charged, but then there was a hung

2045
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 1: jury and then and his friend was charged with something

2046
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: I think a felony. But you know, that didn't sit

2047
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: well with the organization either that he was involved in

2048
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: this type of an instant or at least present at

2049
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 1: this type of an incident that that went on. So

2050
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: that did not help him either. And then he just

2051
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: looked at the d the fie stuff. If you watched

2052
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, and again, you can cut things up and

2053
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: make them look how you want them too, But if

2054
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: you watch the last episode of Hard Knocks, you can

2055
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: see that they just didn't feel he was fighting for

2056
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: the loose falls. They didn't feel that. You know this,

2057
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: but his head was always in the game, but he

2058
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 1: was giving it full effort and attention. That he was

2059
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 1: working hard enough on the field and off the field.

2060
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think he kind of got

2061
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: in the doghouse here and he could never get himself out.

2062
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: Give us a little insight as to the Hard Knocks.

2063
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: What are the fans in Cleveland? I mean, every team

2064
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: who has this Hard Knocks, I mean their fans going

2065
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: to eat that up. What are the fans in Cleveland

2066
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: saying about it? Because you know that I know that

2067
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 1: there's some drama always in these Hard Knocks episodes, and

2068
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 1: whatever team is doing it, they try to play up

2069
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: the drama. How are the fans in Cleveland reacting to it?

2070
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: And what are your thoughts on how it looks for

2071
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,719
Speaker 1: the team? Well, you know, I think that the people

2072
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 1: are really enjoying it. I think it you know, it's

2073
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of attention to the team. Some of

2074
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: it good, you know, some of it maybe not so

2075
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,879
Speaker 1: good of you know, making it seem like the coaches

2076
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: weren't always on the same page in the first episode

2077
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: and things like that. But for the most part, I

2078
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: think it brings some buzz to the browser. They could

2079
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 1: use a little bit of buzz coming off of full

2080
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: and sixteen and one and fifteen, you know, why not

2081
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: spotlight the team, show what's going on, Show that they've

2082
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: got some passionate players like Jarvis Landry who are trying

2083
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 1: to get this thing turned around. I think that it's

2084
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: good for the team right now. Markay. One of the things,

2085
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: one of the buzz things out of Hard Knocks, I think,

2086
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: is it kind of reveals that Hugh Jackson is not

2087
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put it. He doesn't seem

2088
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 1: to have a strong grip on his team when you

2089
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 1: look at those those volatile h you know, type A

2090
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: personality coordinators and some of the big personalities among the

2091
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 1: player and ranks. You think that's accurate to say, based

2092
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: on what we see on Hard Knocks, is Hugh Jackson

2093
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: really in full command of that team? Absolutely one percent?

2094
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Speaker 1: And he's in full command of the team. And I

2095
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 1: think that what you saw in that in that one

2096
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 1: episode is he was establish thing because he knows I mean,

2097
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 1: he does have some really strong guys as coordinators. These

2098
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: guys have been head coaches before, and you know, if

2099
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: he needs establishing that, you know what, this is my

2100
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: show now. So if I want to rest some players

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01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: and try to get them to the season healthy, That's

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Speaker 1: how I'm going to do it. And I think that

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01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: was actually him, you know, establishing his ground and saying no,

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01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, this is the buy I

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01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 1: get to drive this bus as what the quote was. Yeah,

2106
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: so let's let's talk a little bit about this actual

2107
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: game between the Bills and the Browns tomorrow night. What

2108
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: are some of the front burner issues that the Browns

2109
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 1: want to look at in this game against the Bills

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01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Well, their starters didn't play very much film

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01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: and played eight snaps in the first game. So I

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01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 1: think they want to get a better look at Tyrod

2113
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 1: Taylor with his receivers, with his skill players. They need

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01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: to establish the run better. They need to get a

2115
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: better look at Joel Patonio at left tackle. They need

2116
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 1: to just see how this whole offense, his whole first

2117
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: team offense can operate, so you'll see little bit more

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01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: of the first team. Then they want to see continued

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01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: progress from Baker Mayfield. They were very encouraged what they

2120
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: saw with him in his first game, but now they

2121
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: would like to see a little bit more of that

2122
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: and maybe correct some of the mistakes that he made

2123
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: in his first outing. Although there weren't a ton he

2124
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 1: did a really nice job, but you know, just keep

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01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: him going. And then also you want to see the

2126
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 1: number four overall pick Dez Bryant. Not Dez Bryant. He's

2127
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: a receiver that's coming into Denzel Award. Yeah, Denzel Award,

2128
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, getting out there and just getting more experienced

2129
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,879
Speaker 1: because they are relying on him to be their shutdown

2130
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 1: corner this year. Does Baker Mayfield have the look of

2131
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback? Would you say, Mary kay? He did

2132
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 1: to me in that first game. I will tell you.

2133
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is that. The reason why I'm

2134
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: saying that is because the arm talent. He has exceptional

2135
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 1: arm talent. The ball comes out very fast, He's got

2136
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 1: a strong arm, and it goes exactly where he wants

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01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 1: it to go. The accuracy is uncanny. I haven't seen

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01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: a locator like that. I don't know if I've seen

2139
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: a locator like that, at least not in many, many

2140
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 1: years where you can just put the ball on a

2141
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: dime and to me right now, that's his four take.

2142
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: He comes out in a hurry and it goes where

2143
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: it's supposed to. Those are good kurl walities for a

2144
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 1: quarterback to have, no question, But I think one of

2145
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 1: the reasons the Browns grabbed him so early and kind

2146
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 1: of bypassed other guys in the draft with or without

2147
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 1: arm talent is his charisma. This guy seems to get

2148
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 1: let players around him to rally. Talk a little bit

2149
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,759
Speaker 1: about his personality and why that's kind of a difference

2150
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 1: maker for Mayfield. Well, you know, you're right about that.

2151
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 1: He is somebody that guys follow him. He is a leader,

2152
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: and they wanted that. They wanted someone with a very fiery,

2153
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 1: strong personality that could come in here and take the

2154
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: bull by the horns and lead this team to the

2155
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: next level. And for them, that next level is they

2156
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 1: expect championship out of him or multiple championships out of

2157
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: him at some point. So that was probably one of

2158
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: the number one qualities that they really liked in him,

2159
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: or the number one quality that was not a physical trace.

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01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 1: Last think, Mary Kay, there's nowhere to go but up.

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01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,560
Speaker 1: Based on last year's results, were the Browns. What's a realistic,

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01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: you know goal for Cleveland this year in terms of

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01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: number of wins? Can they get to six, seven, eight

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01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 1: wins or maybe even more? Yeah, you know what, I

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01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 1: think they can. I really do think that they can.

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01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 1: When I look at position by position, I don't see

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01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: any positions where you just go, oh man, they don't

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01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 1: have any of that. I see some really good talent

2169
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of positions. And if it all comes together,

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01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 1: which I think it's going to come down to the quarterback,

2171
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,560
Speaker 1: it's going to come down first to to Rot and

2172
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: see how he pulls this whole thing together or Baker

2173
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: later in the season. But if they get good quarterback play,

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01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: anything's possible. Let's start out with six seven, eight, like

2175
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 1: you said, and see how it goes from there. Did

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01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: you say Trod? Do we have to change how we

2177
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 1: pronounce his name? Now? Did I see? You're you're middling it?

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01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 1: Because you know what, Tyrod was here for three years.

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01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 1: He never corrected me. I think it's too late now

2180
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 1: it's Tyrod. I know it's almost too late here too,

2181
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 1: even though he's just been here for short him all

2182
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, but I'm gonna I'm probably gonna start

2183
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: calling him Tie like Baker does, and then I don't

2184
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: have to worry about Mary Kay, thanks for this. We'll

2185
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 1: see at the game tomorrow. We appreciate you spent a

2186
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: few minutes with us today. Thank you sounds good. Thank you,

2187
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: Mary Kay. Cabot Brown's beat writer for Cleveland dot Com

2188
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 1: and Brown's analysts for w KYCTV in Cleveland. She joined

2189
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: us on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh.

2190
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Tyrod was here for three years. If he

2191
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: wanted a different name, he should have said something too late.

2192
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: And I don't even think he said anything to anybody

2193
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 1: down there. Did He just started saying it's a different way, right,

2194
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 1: did he? I don't know how that came up this way.

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01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Well, whatever, anyway, Yeah, I'm going

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01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 1: with Tyrod until I'm going with Tyrodea Mary kay um

2197
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 1: very um. Well. First of all, as far as the

2198
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 1: question about Hugh Jackson's she's certain that he's the man

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01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 1: in charge. It's not the impression I would, I say,

2200
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: with all sincerity, not the impression I got from watching

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01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks Number one. I just thought, you know, it's

2202
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: like the clowns are running the circus there. Sometimes I think,

2203
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 1: and I told you this the other day, you got

2204
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: to be careful because you know how these TV shows

2205
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: are put together. They put it together the way they want.

2206
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 1: They got a message they want to get out, and

2207
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 1: they put the show together to promote that message. They

2208
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: don't care about the reality of it. They want the

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01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 1: drama of it. And I think that it's fun for

2210
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: Todd Haley and Greg Williams because you know, they've got

2211
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 1: no skin in the game. I mean, they you know,

2212
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 1: they can do whatever they want with their side of

2213
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: the football, and you know they don't care how Hugh

2214
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: Jackson comes off there from self promoting, you know. I mean,

2215
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 1: so I just I don't know that it's that Hugh

2216
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 1: Jackson isn't a stronger leader than he's being shown on

2217
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, because I agree with you, he does not

2218
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 1: look like like Sean McDermott looked in embedded you know

2219
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: what I mean. He doesn't look like the guy who's

2220
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: running the show every meaning you don't see that enough.

2221
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 1: And so I've kind of hesitated to make any conclusions

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01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 1: about the dynamics that are going on behind the scenes.

2223
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: The other point among the many that Mary Kay made

2224
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 1: about if they add if they add Dez Bryant, and

2225
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, they'll sit down with them and they have

2226
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 1: a heart to heart with him about you got to

2227
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 1: behave Do we really think that'll matter right based on

2228
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 1: his No. I mean, you can say that and maybe

2229
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: they'll do that, but I don't know that you can,

2230
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, change the guy's stripes, you know, right, that's

2231
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: what I think. I mean, he was that way in Dallas,

2232
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: and he was a handful down there, and he was

2233
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: extremely talented, but Dallas did some things to make sure

2234
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: he was going to be okay. I mean, but there

2235
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 1: for a long time he had a reputation of being

2236
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 1: a guy who he had three routes. He had to go,

2237
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: a fade, a hitch, and a slant, and that was

2238
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 1: the extent of his route repertoire. But he was so

2239
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 1: good at him and so big and physical. Hey, that's

2240
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: all they needed to do. And you see even you

2241
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 1: know the highlights that we show here on our show,

2242
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 1: and you know they're all fades and then this one

2243
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: is a slant that was a hitch route. You see

2244
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 1: him run a hitch, a slant, and a go And

2245
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: that's all the routes he ran. And there's reasons for that.

2246
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 1: I guy couldn't handle more than that, and he's gonna

2247
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 1: have to if he if he gets if he wants

2248
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: to play for another team that's not so invested in

2249
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: his success. Mary Kay says six eight wins realistic for

2250
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: the Browns. I don't know. I can't see it. You

2251
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 1: can see it. And he's right, it does. She's right,

2252
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: it does depend on the quarterback. But let's let's face it.

2253
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 1: If if they need the quarterback to carry things, Tyrod's

2254
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 1: not that guy. We've seen that here in Buffalo. He's

2255
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 1: a he's not gonna turn it over. And that's hit.

2256
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you get a deep ball down the sidelines,

2257
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: that's his gift. He's gonna he'll get you maybe three

2258
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 1: or a handful of first downs with his legs during

2259
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:04,640
Speaker 1: the during the game, and he won't turn it over.

2260
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be your defense and you're running game

2261
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: that they're gonna win it for you. And uh you know,

2262
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 1: so he's not going to carry that offense as a quarterback. Now,

2263
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: he may have some some assets outside. Now he's got

2264
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 1: some really talented guys outside. Let's not make any bones

2265
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 1: about it. And that's been you know, there's always been

2266
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: a Tyrode debate here in Buffalo. It's the receivers that

2267
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 1: he've had better guys and when he had Sammy and

2268
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 1: when he had uh Would and Woods and all those

2269
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 1: guys we had guys he could throw it really well,

2270
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 1: he didn't have that nice year in two thouy sixteen

2271
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 1: or twenty fifteen. I guess it was. You know, he

2272
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: had that nice year, but you know when he when

2273
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: the guys started to leave, he had to do it

2274
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: himself or he didn't have the quality of receivers outside.

2275
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 1: That's what did it to him. And then there's they

2276
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 1: always the other debate, and the one that I always

2277
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 1: promote is as a quarterbacks makes the receivers, you know,

2278
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: you can throw those things. And people were frustrated with him.

2279
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 1: So it's a debate that's gonna ray John about Tyrod.

2280
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 1: But we have not seen him be able to carry

2281
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,679
Speaker 1: an offense, even back in his best year he had damn.

2282
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 1: I mean it was Lashawn McCoy that ran the show.

2283
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: They led the league in rushing. So you know, I

2284
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: don't see it. I don't see him having the kind

2285
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: of success she's having if they're depending on the quarterback

2286
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 1: to do that, because that's not who Tyrod is. I

2287
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: could be wrong, and that may be what they're that

2288
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 1: maybe what the coaching staffs counting on. They're gonna get

2289
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: out there and they're gonna be They're gonna get to

2290
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: that point where Tyrod's gonna have a game like he

2291
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 1: did against the Saints, and they're gonna set him down,

2292
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: just like the Buffalo Bills coaching staff set him down

2293
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: because they've got the number one overall pick sitting there

2294
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 1: behind him. Andrew stand and yeah, hey, let's take a

2295
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 1: couple of the phone calls here as we talk about

2296
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 1: the Bills and their opponents. Amount of the Browns give

2297
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:41,640
Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three oh five fifty and

2298
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

2299
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: Kevin on the line from Tanawana to go ahead, Kevin,

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01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Oh guys, first time caller. Um,

2301
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I just say what my feeling is to win. You

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01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: gotta duplicate what New England did all these years, and uh,

2303
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 1: they have it's not racial, but they have three fast

2304
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: white guys. We don't have any. We got maybe Riley.

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01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's going on with him, and uh,

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01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,600
Speaker 1: you know maybe in the future, prole But what what what?

2307
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: What what possibly could white have to do with it? Kevin? No,

2308
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: what's the guys that they used to play for? Uh?

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01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 1: Uh with New England and Miami. The guy that was

2310
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 1: always open, well, what was his name, Wes Welker. Yeah,

2311
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: see we need uh, we need that's our missing ingredient.

2312
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: We don't have that. I just feel that answer my question.

2313
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: What difference does it make? White or black? Sure, it's

2314
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 1: just it's just we need a little fast white guy. No, No,

2315
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 1: that's about the stupidest thing I've heard on the show

2316
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 1: in six years. Has nothing to do. Help me out,

2317
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: or Steve, I can't talk to this guy. All That

2318
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 1: is about the stupidest thing I've heard. Got them, we

2319
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 1: don't have any of them. Well, we also don't have

2320
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 1: number twelve Tom Brady either, So I you know that's

2321
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 1: that makes a difference. So that's I don't know, dulous. Yeah,

2322
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 1: don't call back ever, Let's go to David. David, you're

2323
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: on the line. Hello, David. I'm serious. I'm not can

2324
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: tell you're serious. I'm being quiet, definite guys. How you

2325
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 1: doing good? Ad? Hey? Um, I just wanted to call

2326
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 1: and after hearing the k cabits there, Um, I just

2327
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, we get a lot of callers, uh or

2328
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys get a lot of callers that

2329
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: kind of who the culture and the process of of McBean.

2330
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 1: If I can call him that. Um, now I know, Steed,

2331
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 1: You're you're definitely in favor of the big culture thing.

2332
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 1: And I couldn't agree more because you know, you can

2333
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 1: you can sign Dous Bryant and you can have Josh

2334
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Gibson and Ed Gordon. So Josh Gordon, Um, you can

2335
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:44,560
Speaker 1: have you know, the Calaways a criminal. I mean, you

2336
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 1: got all these clowns, you know, and you're you're one

2337
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 1: in thirty one and she just said, he just said

2338
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 1: that you Jackton is totally in control. Okay, Well, if

2339
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm a Cleveland fan, you know with thank god I'm not,

2340
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: he needs to go. It's one in thirty one. What

2341
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: are you waiting for? And this is what happens when

2342
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of crooks and thugs and criminals

2343
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 1: on your team. And now we might the Bills might

2344
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: not have the most talent leaden roster in the league currently.

2345
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,600
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens next year with a bunch of

2346
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 1: tap money and another round is good draft picks, hopefully,

2347
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens done and then you got something.

2348
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 1: But Cleveland, the way they're functioning right now is the absolute,

2349
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: absolute dismal. Well and David, I say, before Steve, I

2350
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 1: agree with that take. That's kind of where I am

2351
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. I think they are totally dysfunctional,

2352
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: and yes, part of my part of my analysis comes

2353
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 1: from watching one episode of Hard Knocks. I get that's

2354
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 1: not everything, but they I think they show some some

2355
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: big issues there. Well, here's the thing. I'm not gonna

2356
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: lump every player on the roster in with Kevin and

2357
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: Murph and all. They've got some quality people on their roster.

2358
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor's one of them. We Tyrod is a stellar

2359
01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 1: human being from what I understand. Baker may fields a

2360
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 1: great guy, even though you look in college. You know

2361
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: he was in college and he had one incident, but

2362
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: you know they I'll be a long time before I

2363
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 1: judge him on that because that was me when I

2364
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 1: was twenty. So, yeah, the Browns have a bunch of

2365
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: great people in place. They've got some quality coordinators in place.

2366
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: They've got physical talent in place. And if Hugh Jackson

2367
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: is in control, that says a lot to me about

2368
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 1: He's a lot like a lot of coaches. Give me

2369
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: the talent, I'll get him to play. They want better players,

2370
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 1: and they they think that by giving them better players.

2371
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna win a few games early, they're gonna start

2372
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 1: to get on a role, and everything's gonna be honkey

2373
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: dor and the and the culture will be a byproduct

2374
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 1: of winning. And in Buffalo here you look at Sean

2375
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 1: McDermott and Brandon Bean, they're kind of the opposite. They say,

2376
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: you put the culture in place, and that'll help you

2377
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 1: win those games early and get you on a role.

2378
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 1: That's what happened to them last year. You get the

2379
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 1: culture and the guys in place, and you weed out

2380
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: guys that are problems and guys that aren't on board,

2381
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 1: and guys that takes winning to motivate. You get rid

2382
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 1: of those guys and you get guys that are motivated

2383
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 1: because they love to play the game, because they feel

2384
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 1: it's their job to play the game well and to

2385
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 1: try their best, and to find ways to get better

2386
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 1: at their job, and to work when they're not here

2387
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 1: at the facility get better. They think about it when

2388
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: they're away, they commit, you know, one hundred percent of

2389
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 1: their time and efforts and thought process too. You get

2390
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 1: those guys and it'll be easier to win those early games.

2391
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: And then you get into the point where you know

2392
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 1: the culture. You win games not because of the culture,

2393
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: but the culture wins you games. So it's two different

2394
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: ends of the spectrum. Guys like Hugh Jackson. If Mary

2395
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 1: Kay Cabot is correct, he says, give me the talent,

2396
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: all win the games and the culture will result. And

2397
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo it's just the opposite. I'll make the

2398
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: culture and that's gonna win us games. Hey, we got

2399
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: a lot coming up still in the remaining thirty three

2400
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 1: thirty three minutes of the show, and what you might

2401
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 1: not know about Josh Allen. What do you think you're

2402
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 1: missing on Josh Allen. We'll hear from some former coaches

2403
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: and players on that. Plus Andy Dalton, Bengals quarterback coming

2404
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 1: to town next week and bringing something with him, plus

2405
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 1: NFL true and false, plus more of your phone calls,

2406
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 1: all of that coming up. It is One Bills Live

2407
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 1: from Bill's Training from One Bill's Drive. All you gotta

2408
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 1: do is look around. I'm clearly not a training camp anymore.

2409
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, One Bills Live. We hit

2410
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 1: the road. We've done road shows before. We did Rochester

2411
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 1: obviously for three weeks, but hardly counts as a road

2412
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 1: No you're right. We had a big operation there. This

2413
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: is a small, small scale operation in Cleington tomorrow and

2414
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harris, that's it. It would be good, though,

2415
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 1: I think it'd be good. Sure, we got Chris Brown.

2416
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 1: What's our level of confidence that we can pull this all?

2417
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: We got it? You do? Yes, glad, we do. I

2418
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 1: would never do well. You did Super Bowl with Jay,

2419
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 1: just the two of you, right, Oh you know what

2420
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 1: that is exactly? I forgot about that. Yeah, we're gold.

2421
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 1: They handled it right, We're gold. Run around and he

2422
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 1: did everyone in the air he did. Yeah, Yeah, you're right. Yeah,

2423
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 1: it'll be fine. I hope. Yeah, my confidence is redeemed.

2424
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 1: We're good tomorrow noon to three Live from Cleveland and

2425
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: then of course the game seven thirty of the Bills

2426
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 1: on the Browns. Hey I mentioned I think I mentioned

2427
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 1: you how I came across an interview that I heard

2428
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman talking about how he wanted to be an

2429
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 1: NFL general manager some day. And you get thinking about

2430
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 1: you think you know these players, you know him pretty well,

2431
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 1: you don't always in fact, NFL Network the other thing

2432
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen, Buffalo's first round draft pick, and what

2433
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 1: you didn't know about Josh Allen. They talked to variety

2434
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 1: of people, Jordan Palmer, who's been his quarterback guru, teammates

2435
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 1: from Wyoming, his coach, high school teammate. Listen to this

2436
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 1: for a second. It's NFL Networks. What you did not

2437
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 1: know about Bills quarterback Josh Allen. But you don't know

2438
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen is that though he grew up on

2439
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 1: a farm, he can't stand country music. I took him

2440
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: to a Jason Aldean cons and he said, who's that?

2441
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 1: He literally hadn't heard of Jational being. Here's something you

2442
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: don't know about Josh Allen. He is addicted to food.

2443
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: He eats like alignment, and he plays quarterback. He'll order

2444
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 1: twenty four wings. I think we ate wings twice a

2445
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 1: week every week, so I think that fits for Buffalo.

2446
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 1: What you don't know about Josh Allen as well as

2447
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, we felt like Josh had to get tougher,

2448
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 1: and so we threw him in the wrestling room with

2449
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 1: a lineman. Josh got right in there and did what

2450
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: the lineman. Dude. He's a leader, he's somebody that loves

2451
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: his brothers and he's gonna do what it takes to

2452
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: get everybody on the same page. What you don't know

2453
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. I would say he's very humble. His

2454
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 1: work ethic is phenomenal. He had text me and be like, Hey,

2455
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 1: you want to throw the ball with each other? Bro'm

2456
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 1: route do this and that, And I'm like I would

2457
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 1: never tell him. I'm like, yeah, bro, whatever I could

2458
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 1: do to help you, to help me, I'm all for it.

2459
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 1: What you didn't know about Josh Allen from various people,

2460
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer, his quarterback guru, Waomi teammate, Adam pell Apple,

2461
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 1: his high school coach, Bill Magdusine, a teammate in high school.

2462
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 1: Caleb Horton the chicken wing things a lot twice a

2463
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 1: week is a little bit, a little bit high for

2464
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 1: chick wing consumption, Yeah, a little bit andy. Also, he

2465
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 1: is from Wyoming in California, So you know what I

2466
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 1: hate to say. He eats ranch with his chicken wings.

2467
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 1: You know that I was if he listening. He turns

2468
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 1: out to be a franchise quarterback Hall of Fame. I'm

2469
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 1: going to let that slide. Serious charge. It is a

2470
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 1: serious charge, and he's got to overcome it. Ranch with

2471
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:27,960
Speaker 1: your chicken wings just does not fly for a lot

2472
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: of people. But yeah, listen, if he's been doing it

2473
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: since the very beginning, I'll let it slide as long

2474
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 1: as he keeps getting better as quarterback. But it's the

2475
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 1: moment it goes south, I'm calling him on it. That's

2476
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 1: a serious charge. Hey, here's another quarterback to target. The

2477
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 1: Bengals are here are week from Sunday, a four o'clock

2478
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: game that'll be a nationally televised game. A week from Sunday,

2479
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:49,920
Speaker 1: the Bills in the Bengals four o'clock Here, a new airfield,

2480
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 1: the return of Andy Dalton. And I gotta say, you'll

2481
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 1: be hard pressed to find an opposing team's quarterback who

2482
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:00,120
Speaker 1: will be more warmly welcome than Andy Dalton will be

2483
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 1: a week from Sunday, Right, would you agree? Absolutely? I

2484
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 1: really want to be there and see that, because there's

2485
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:09,600
Speaker 1: the story has been well documented about how people donated

2486
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 1: to his foundation seventeen dollars increments after he ousted the

2487
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 1: Ravens from the playoff picture and put the Bills into

2488
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:19,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs in Week seventeen last year. And it'll be

2489
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 1: really fun to see that all come to a final

2490
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 1: conclusion when he walks on the field of the preseason.

2491
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 1: So when he comes to Buffalo Western New York next week,

2492
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 1: he's bringing along some money a gift for Roswell Park

2493
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 1: Cancer Institute here in Buffalo. Andy Dalton talked about it

2494
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 1: on his Twitter feed. Listen to this, Hey Buffalo fans,

2495
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:39,760
Speaker 1: we just want to say thank you for all the

2496
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,800
Speaker 1: support that you've given us this year. It's been amazing

2497
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 1: to see all the donations that have come in for

2498
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 1: our foundation. And so with that, JJ and our border

2499
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:51,440
Speaker 1: actually gonna be headed up to Buffalo and A're gonna

2500
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 1: make a donation to the Roswell Park Cancer Center and

2501
02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 1: so we're really looking forward to it. Y'all supported us

2502
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 1: so much, so we want to give that. Yes, I'm

2503
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 1: so excited to head up to Buffalo and meet y'all

2504
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:04,640
Speaker 1: with our board. Look for us on game day. We're

2505
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:07,240
Speaker 1: so thankful for everything that y'all have done for us,

2506
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 1: for our community, the families in our community through our

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Speaker 1: foundation that we want to get back to y'all. We're

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Speaker 1: just forever grateful and we look forward to seeing y'all

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Speaker 1: on game day. Thanks guys. Thanks that's Jordan Dalton, bless

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Speaker 1: her heart. Thanks y'all. You know that is awesome, you

2511
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:27,320
Speaker 1: know it is. It's one of the fielding stories of

2512
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Speaker 1: all time. Really, for all the stuff we've been talking

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02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: about today, that is just great. It's great. What is

2514
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 1: great for them for his foundation and now it's coming back,

2515
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 1: and it's great. The Bills made the playoffs and the

2516
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 1: end of the drift, and y'all should go out there

2517
02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 1: and see him. Unbelievable story that is. It's gonna be

2518
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 1: wild when Andy Dalton takes the field. I hope he

2519
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 1: plays a little bit. I hope the Bills play well

2520
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 1: against him, but just to be introduced, would you even

2521
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:56,960
Speaker 1: be introduced? I don't. They might bring him out right

2522
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 1: at some point. What did I hear? Did I hear

2523
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 1: this is gonna happen at the Sunday game four o'clock kickoff?

2524
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:05,520
Speaker 1: They might let Andy Dalton address the crowd or something. No, really,

2525
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 1: I heard something like that would be unprecedented, But the

2526
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 1: whole situation is unprecedented. Yeah, I've never heard anything like that.

2527
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 1: It's a real little Buffalo story. It really really says

2528
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 1: so much about It does say something about Andy Dalton,

2529
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:21,440
Speaker 1: absolutely no question, but it says a lot about the

2530
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:25,800
Speaker 1: fans in Buffalo. And it's it's a great story. It's

2531
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 1: one that I think the people in Western York should

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02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: take great pride in. Yeah. Absolutely, NFL True or False

2533
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 1: is brought to you by Yancey's Fancy, New York's artist

2534
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:38,040
Speaker 1: and chief Steve. We never stopped into the Yancey's Fancy.

2535
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:39,880
Speaker 1: We went by it almost every day we rode to camp.

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02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 1: I pointed it out to you. There it is, Steve,

2537
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 1: there's Yancy's Fancy. You want to stop by? No, keep going,

2538
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 1: keep yeah, Like that's the way the conversation went. The

2539
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 1: other thing we didn't do. We never recorded our conversation

2540
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 1: in the car for broadcast. That would have been good,

2541
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:56,800
Speaker 1: That might have been bad. Um NFL true or False

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02:03:56,840 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancey's Fancy. Khalail Max holdout out

2543
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:02,560
Speaker 1: of distraction to the Raiders. That's what John Gruden said.

2544
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:05,000
Speaker 1: We had it in the update. Khalil Mack has been

2545
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 1: after three weeks now not distracting the Raiders. True false, Steve,

2546
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 1: what do you think I think it's true? It's false.

2547
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: He's a total distraction. I think it's he's the best

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02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 1: defensive player on their team. He's the best defensive player

2549
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: they've had in the last half decade, if not the

2550
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 1: last decade and a half, best player in the roster.

2551
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 1: He's the best player on their roster and he's holding out. Yeah,

2552
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,680
Speaker 1: that's a distraction, particularly on the defensive side of the football.

2553
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 1: I agree, that's false. I'm gonna call that one false. Yeah,

2554
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: NFL true or false? Part two back to the Cleveland Browns.

2555
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:37,440
Speaker 1: The Browns are gonna was up on NFL dot Com.

2556
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield will be red shirted the entire year, no

2557
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 1: matter what happens. That's what John Dorsey and Hugh Jackson

2558
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 1: have said the gym and coach of the Browns. Browns

2559
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 1: are gonna red shirt Baker Mayfield, not play him this

2560
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:53,000
Speaker 1: year no matter what happens. It's true false. I'm saying false.

2561
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 1: Stuff could happen. Injuries could happen, number one. But even

2562
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: aside from that, if they go into a tailspin, which

2563
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean to Spini, will happen. Why wouldn't you play

2564
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:04,080
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield? You know what you got in Tyrode, and

2565
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:06,920
Speaker 1: I know they liked Tyrode. Everybody loves Tyrode, But why

2566
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't you play Baker Mayfield? If you use that first

2567
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:13,640
Speaker 1: overall pick on. That's false, no matter what happens. No,

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02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 1: that's false. There's about two hundred things I can think

2569
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:21,040
Speaker 1: of that it could happen to get Baker Mayfield onto

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02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:23,640
Speaker 1: the field. Injuries is just the one. And you know

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02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:30,440
Speaker 1: that's a yeah, absolutely absolutely, Yeah, he could play this year,

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02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:33,840
Speaker 1: and I think he will play this year. I think

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02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 1: he will. I think he'll start a game. So yeah,

2574
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 1: I think that's false. Okay, finally, NFL True or False

2575
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:44,000
Speaker 1: Part three The Saints. This is another NFL dot Com headline.

2576
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:47,400
Speaker 1: The Saints are driven to send Drew Drew Brees out

2577
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:50,720
Speaker 1: with the super Bowl win. True, of course they are.

2578
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 1: Now can they do it? They might? I thought when

2579
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:56,320
Speaker 1: they came here last November twelfth, I want to say,

2580
02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 1: and hammered the Bills the way they did they I

2581
02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:01,560
Speaker 1: left the stadium here said that's a super Bowl team.

2582
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 1: That Saints team is a super Bowl team. I really

2583
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 1: thought they were that good last year. I agree. I

2584
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 1: agree they were very good last year. That game that

2585
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:11,680
Speaker 1: they played in Buffalo was an impressive outing. And you

2586
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:13,880
Speaker 1: and I I think both our opinions are colored by

2587
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 1: that afternoon in the Orchard Park. Yeah, they're good and

2588
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 1: Drew And yeah, Drew Brees is an iconic figure there

2589
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 1: in New Orleans and he's the face of that franchise

2590
02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 1: and he's a great dude. Those guys are playing hard

2591
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:28,080
Speaker 1: for him. So yeah, absolutely, that is true. The Saints

2592
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 1: are driven to send Drew Brees out with a Super

2593
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:33,480
Speaker 1: Bowl win. But saying it and doing it are two

2594
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:37,080
Speaker 1: different things. Right, nobody's talent season and that's a that's

2595
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 1: an interesting and it has been a very competitive division. Right,

2596
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:44,800
Speaker 1: they're taking turns winning that division in the NFC South.

2597
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the Saints turn this year. Maybe it isn't.

2598
02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 1: Carolina was eleven and five last year. They're not going anywhere.

2599
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:54,040
Speaker 1: You know. Tampa Bay may take a step back, and

2600
02:06:54,080 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 1: they got their quarterbacks suspended for the first few games.

2601
02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:03,880
Speaker 1: That's of that season. Yeah, it's Atlanta, Atlanta. Think about

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02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 1: this of the twenty seventeen Saints too. They were one

2603
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 1: amazing play away from advancing to the championship, the NFC

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02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 1: Championship game, right the Vikings. Yeah, take it from a

2605
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 1: guy who's lost big games. That sticks with you, it

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Speaker 1: really does. They're gonna think about that all through their offseason,

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02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:21,240
Speaker 1: all through their training camp, all through that week one

2608
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:23,920
Speaker 1: all the way through. That's gonna stick with them and

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02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 1: it's a motivating factor. So there. I think the Saints

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02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:30,280
Speaker 1: are They're an easy maybe obvious, but they are definitely

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl pick. All right, we got that. It's

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Speaker 1: true NFL True and false. Brought to you by Yancey's

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02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:39,040
Speaker 1: Fancy New York's artisan cheese back mcmorta moment, we will

2614
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Speaker 1: recap our Twitter poll, talk more about tomorrow night's game,

2615
02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:43,280
Speaker 1: and address whatever is left. You can phone in. We

2616
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:45,200
Speaker 1: probably have time for a call or two at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three, five fifty and toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty one Bills Live from One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned from

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Speaker 1: What do we learned? Andrew Catalan joined us. He's going

2624
02:08:21,400 --> 02:08:22,760
Speaker 1: to be called on to play by play on the

2625
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,720
Speaker 1: TV tomorrow night the Bills and the Cleveland Browns. We

2626
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:28,880
Speaker 1: asked him, who would you start at quarterback? Tomorrow for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. Here's what he said. Look, I would love

2628
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 1: to see a lot more of Josh Allen. You know

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02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 1: some of his throws that we saw last week, and

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02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 1: I watched the broadcast from last week. I mean, he's

2631
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:43,160
Speaker 1: got a big time arm is scrambling on that third

2632
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 1: and eleven. I was really impressed with the speed. I

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02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 1: think he showed something there. But look, he's been working

2634
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 1: with the threes and then this week the twos. You

2635
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 1: got to make sure that the first unit is ready

2636
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: to go too, with whoever's going to be under center,

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02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 1: so you know if it is the Jay mccaron loved

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02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 1: to see him get a shot, and that first team

2639
02:09:01,720 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 1: offense revolved around him. Who's he's taking more snaps obviously

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02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:08,640
Speaker 1: with the first team than Josh Allen so far. Andrew

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02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:10,840
Speaker 1: Catalan's got the call of the game on the Bill's

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02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 1: television network tomorrow. Also on the show today, we heard

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Speaker 1: from Mary Kay Cabot, who covers the Browns for Cleveland

2644
02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:20,040
Speaker 1: dot Com. We asked her about first overall draft Baker

2645
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 1: Mayfield and now he's doing. What's he look like? Does

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Speaker 1: he look like a potential franchise quarterback? Here's her answer,

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02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:29,280
Speaker 1: that first game. I will tell you. I mean, the

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02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:31,760
Speaker 1: thing is that. The reason why I'm saying that is

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02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 1: because of the arm talent. He has exceptional m talent.

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02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:38,760
Speaker 1: The ball comes out very fast, He's got a strong arm,

2651
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 1: and it goes exactly where he wants it to go.

2652
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 1: The accuracy is uncanny. I haven't seen a located like that.

2653
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen a locator like that,

2654
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:49,440
Speaker 1: at least not in many many years. Or you can

2655
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 1: just put the ball on a time and to me

2656
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 1: right now, that's his fourteke. He comes out in a

2657
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:57,760
Speaker 1: hurry and it goes where it's opposed to. That's the formula.

2658
02:09:57,880 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 1: Right as we said, thank you very much to Mary

2659
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:01,960
Speaker 1: kay I have an and to Hender Catalan. Hey see

2660
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:04,320
Speaker 1: twitter poll today. I found it interesting and we got

2661
02:10:04,360 --> 02:10:06,280
Speaker 1: some good responses and never really read much off the

2662
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:08,800
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. In response to our question, we wanted to

2663
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 1: know from our listeners which Buffalo Bill's offensive player would

2664
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: have a chance to redeem himself the most tomorrow night

2665
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 1: against the Browns. Here's a good one from Nick As

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02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,920
Speaker 1: a second round pick. In my opinion, Zay Jones must

2667
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 1: take the next step. Put last year's drops in La

2668
02:10:24,080 --> 02:10:26,480
Speaker 1: issues behind him and show why he's a second round pick.

2669
02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:29,480
Speaker 1: Whoever is the Bill's quarterback needs to have a reliable target.

2670
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:32,080
Speaker 1: Zay would be awesome in that role. Bring on the

2671
02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:36,400
Speaker 1: lightsaber TD celebrations. That's a very strong case for making

2672
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 1: a Zay Jones. You're picked for the guy who has

2673
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 1: a chance to redeem himself tomorrow. Well, he's certainly tomorrow

2674
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:44,920
Speaker 1: if he even if he has a great game, it's

2675
02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:46,800
Speaker 1: it's one step in the road back. I mean for

2676
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:49,600
Speaker 1: some people, he needed to have show more last year.

2677
02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:52,960
Speaker 1: He needed to show more commitment this list offseason instead

2678
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:55,760
Speaker 1: of having an incident like that. Tweet says in La

2679
02:10:56,400 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 1: and he's been absent. He's been recovering from a knee surgery.

2680
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:04,480
Speaker 1: He's not been practicing. He's only just now gotten cleared

2681
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:08,760
Speaker 1: to play pro football one hundred percent. Yeah, he's got

2682
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:10,960
Speaker 1: a long way back. And I am sure, and I

2683
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:13,480
Speaker 1: said this earlier in the show. He really feels left

2684
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 1: behind right now, and he's going to work hard to

2685
02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 1: catch up because that's a real uncomfortable place to be

2686
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:20,600
Speaker 1: in training. Came another from the tweet sheet, this one

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02:11:20,680 --> 02:11:23,920
Speaker 1: from Jesse Hamilton. The question which offensive player has a

2688
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:27,160
Speaker 1: chance to redeem himself the most. Jesse Hamilton says, the

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02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:29,280
Speaker 1: answer has to be Corey Coleman. He has a chance

2690
02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:32,160
Speaker 1: to show Cleveland just what they did by training him

2691
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:34,280
Speaker 1: for next to nothing to the Bills. I can't wait

2692
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:37,400
Speaker 1: to see it happen. A strong case there from Jesse Hamilton.

2693
02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 1: He's right. It could be a major redemption game tomorrow

2694
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 1: night for Cordy Coleman, couldn't. It's a great story in

2695
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:47,240
Speaker 1: the making, no question. It remains to be seen. How

2696
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 1: much of an opportunity Coleman is going to have to

2697
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:51,760
Speaker 1: redeem himself against his old team. You would think that

2698
02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:53,520
Speaker 1: the Bills are going to give him some opportunity to

2699
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 1: step onto the field and do something. But yeah, that's

2700
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:02,360
Speaker 1: storybook to get traded one weekend and the next weekend

2701
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:06,520
Speaker 1: play that old team. Well, then again, Tyrod Taylor's sitting

2702
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 1: there on the other side of the field too. What

2703
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 1: do you think he wants to do in this game? Right?

2704
02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:12,960
Speaker 1: He wants to throw for five thousand yards and sixty touchdowns.

2705
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:14,760
Speaker 1: On some level, Tyrod's got it, I know it. The

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02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:18,080
Speaker 1: Tyrode would never say it, m but on some level

2707
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:20,320
Speaker 1: he's got to think, Hey, that team didn't make the

2708
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:22,960
Speaker 1: playoffs for seventeen years. I took I was a quarterback

2709
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 1: that took him to the playoffs and they traded me. Right.

2710
02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 1: That would get your That would get you going, no

2711
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 1: matter who you were, no matter what your temperament was,

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02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:32,839
Speaker 1: no matter how happy you might be in your new situation.

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Speaker 1: That would get you going. I would think he's got

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Speaker 1: more motivation in his in his bags than anybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he is aded with motivation in this game, Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 1: is that you know what? In a lot of ways, man,

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Speaker 1: I hope it happens. Yeah, I wanted to be successful.

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Speaker 1: One more. This is from Eric Hickman. We asked which

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Speaker 1: player on offense has a chance to redeem himself. He

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Speaker 1: says Chris Ivory. Chris Ivory needs to step it up.

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Speaker 1: No locket number two run running back, especially if Marcus

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Speaker 1: Murphy keeps playing well. Ivory stocked dropped too with the

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Speaker 1: drop pass interceptions. I don't agree with that. I think

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Speaker 1: Chris Ivey is a pretty solid number two pick for

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Speaker 1: the Bills running back. Spot your thoughts, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: heat a lot. Yeah, there'd have to be a train

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Speaker 1: wreck before Chris Ivey's not going to be the number

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Speaker 1: two running back. He's gonna be the guy. It's about

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Speaker 1: the number three running back, all right. No train wrecks,

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Speaker 1: no car wrecks for us. We're on their way down

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Speaker 1: to a Cleveland. We'll do the show from there tomorrow

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Speaker 1: starting at twelve noon. Make sure you're tune in, and then,

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Speaker 1: of course we got the game tomorrow night, seven thirty

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Speaker 1: the Bills and the Browns. Thanks for our production assistants,

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas, Honalder, Kelly Rude, JJ Turto,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cartis, James Robell, our producer Jay Harris. Road Trip Time.

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Speaker 1: We'll be in Cleveland tomorrow with One Bills Live from Cleveland,

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