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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: Yes, and Everson Walls is in the building.
Speaker 2: You're welcome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we missed you the last three days here.
Speaker 3: On mixed shots inside the SWBC podcast studio where there
Speaker 3: are football fields or football players arriving at that football field.
Speaker 3: And I'm told, with the temperature up around ninety degrees again,
Speaker 3: a record setting day heat wise here in North Texas,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a half and half day.
Speaker 2: I heard that. I heard that I missed a lot
Speaker 2: of hot days. Uh huh here in the area. What's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 4: So you you actually you were on assignment or.
Speaker 2: He was in New Mexico and I was in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: New Jersey were dealing with the Congressional Medal of Honor winners.
Speaker 2: They came out and played golf with us. We had
Speaker 2: a nice reception. You hear the amazing stories of the guys.
Speaker 2: Man man, I couldn't go to war Bro. I could
Speaker 2: not go to the war. Man, you think training day
Speaker 2: is tough.
Speaker 3: You think that we were we were born at just
Speaker 3: the right time, just after the draft.
Speaker 2: And I was I was the only only son. So
Speaker 2: I think I could have gotten out of it right.
Speaker 2: And now it goes if you like, the only son,
Speaker 2: you can get out of the drafts. No, the only son.
Speaker 4: I'm an only son too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cards stay home and then the home.
Speaker 5: I was an only son and.
Speaker 2: None of that stuff.
Speaker 5: None of that stuff work.
Speaker 2: Obviously. I don't have a gun.
Speaker 5: The only thing that worked for me was R O
Speaker 5: two C.
Speaker 2: Okay, man, that's tough. I was gone. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 2: I was gonna get out of it. Man, Like I'm
Speaker 2: the only son, so I'm good. Yeah. Used to worry
Speaker 2: about that all the time.
Speaker 5: You would have to go to Canada.
Speaker 2: I probably would have. I like Canada.
Speaker 5: There's a reason why a lot of people went to Canada.
Speaker 2: Canada. I could have survived. Well.
Speaker 3: It is Thursday of Niners Week, and Everson does not
Speaker 3: want us to talk Niners Week, but we have to
Speaker 3: because it is upon us. I love you get you
Speaker 3: get more phone calls this week than any other week
Speaker 3: of the year.
Speaker 2: I do, and I like the media people between oh,
Speaker 2: Giants Week versus for the nine of them. Why does
Speaker 2: no one call me doing the Giants? You want to
Speaker 2: super Bowl with the Giants? No one calls me doing
Speaker 2: Giants Week. It's like, you know, I get text with
Speaker 2: my boys. That's by it in New York. Oh yeah, no, no,
Speaker 2: not this week. I already have some guy trying to
Speaker 2: call me. I'm gonna call him and talk to him,
Speaker 2: and so it gives me a chance to revise history. Well, what.
Speaker 5: You need to do when they call you for these
Speaker 5: just remind them that you advanced to the top thirty
Speaker 5: one for the All of Fame.
Speaker 2: Hey, the congratulations to my family because they are oh
Speaker 2: my god, they want this so bad. And you know
Speaker 2: what you have to how could I put you have
Speaker 2: to respect the process even though you pissed off of
Speaker 2: the process, because you know you got it here to
Speaker 2: it and I'm not going to sit here and say, man,
Speaker 2: screw that, you know, because if it was just me,
Speaker 2: but when you got your family really want this. I
Speaker 2: had my cousin calling me from Odessa, Texas. His name
Speaker 2: is Darrel Mitchell. He used to play basketball for Texas
Speaker 2: Tech when Bill Parcells was there he knew Bill Parcells
Speaker 2: and he called me yes day, man. He was like, man,
Speaker 2: I like how you're handling your situation. You know, everybody's
Speaker 2: going crazy over this. Everybody wants this, but you know
Speaker 2: you're you're trying to play it down. Say I like
Speaker 2: the way you're doing it. And I'm like, man, you
Speaker 2: have to you know, because you know, I'm sixty four
Speaker 2: fricking years old.
Speaker 4: Oh man, that old.
Speaker 2: Nothing compared to you guys, but compared to the other
Speaker 2: athletes around here, I am old. So I've been through
Speaker 2: it all. But when it comes to your family, this
Speaker 2: is really what they want. They really want it bad
Speaker 2: and so you know, you can't just you can't just
Speaker 2: blow it off because then you're disrespecting those lows.
Speaker 5: So who was the It was the Giants linebacker that
Speaker 5: got sideways with the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no reasons. Is white?
Speaker 5: I know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah sorry from Crowley?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he got all he guy, he's he's top
Speaker 2: one hundred Giants. He's proud of himself. He's got the
Speaker 2: stadium named after me, right, He's the good dude.
Speaker 5: Harry Harry Carson.
Speaker 2: Had to be a black school thing, you know, Hay Carson.
Speaker 5: And then he gets and it's like, well, okay, right,
Speaker 5: which I'll never should have gone to that, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Never should have come. Which he was there this weekend
Speaker 2: this past week Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Harry Coss one of your fellow Grambling guys is one
Speaker 3: of the thirty one as well.
Speaker 4: Albert Lewis.
Speaker 3: Albert Lewis, who's younger than you, who we were here
Speaker 3: at the same time.
Speaker 2: We would thread of years with Albert Lewis. When Coach
Speaker 2: Robber was there, he's like, this guy is coming from Mansfield,
Speaker 2: Louisiana and he runs like the wind, damn it. Like, okay,
Speaker 2: who is this guy coming in here? Well, it happened
Speaker 2: to be Albert Lewis, who did run like the wind.
Speaker 2: He ran a battle of four three forty. This guy
Speaker 2: long legs, he's taller than me, but he couldn't beat
Speaker 2: me out.
Speaker 5: He couldn't tell at the waitst time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the waitest time.
Speaker 3: While I'm leaving the next we need to point that
Speaker 3: out to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: We're on the same team together.
Speaker 2: But it's my back up.
Speaker 4: That's right, You're gonna put my back up there and
Speaker 4: ahead of me.
Speaker 2: But he ended up getting if I'm not mistaken, fifty
Speaker 2: plus interceptions. So he wasn't just out there messing around.
Speaker 2: He was a He was one of the top the chiefs.
Speaker 2: He was one of the top dbs. And that was
Speaker 2: loss was the other. Yes, yes, and I'll do cherry
Speaker 2: as well. Hell of a second.
Speaker 5: I got a great second. So when those people call
Speaker 5: from San Francisco, maybe one of them will be a voter.
Speaker 5: So make sure he gets nice and make sure you
Speaker 5: remind him that if you got to vote for.
Speaker 4: Me, when's your birthday?
Speaker 2: Between eight? Okay?
Speaker 4: Albert Lewis is sixty four years old too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, See, it didn't take me long to get
Speaker 2: through school. I went through school.
Speaker 4: You get there, you got there early.
Speaker 2: Yes, I skipped up frae.
Speaker 5: You skipped first grade year seven week first correct?
Speaker 2: No, we would take it after two tests at the time,
Speaker 2: in first grade, before first grade. You take it while
Speaker 2: you're in kindergarten. This is in Texas. I don't know
Speaker 2: Bill did. Bill messed up well? So I did well
Speaker 2: enough to where I was skipped up there the first
Speaker 2: grade after two weeks. And they don't just put you
Speaker 2: in first grade. They took the entire desk. So I
Speaker 2: moved your name on the desk. Back in the day
Speaker 2: they tape it on. So come in from bluntch and hey,
Speaker 2: where's my desk? They moved the entire desk to the
Speaker 2: second grade.
Speaker 4: They moved Emerson's desks.
Speaker 2: Well back then it was just cuby.
Speaker 5: They didn't got but for eleven days. I had to
Speaker 5: wait another year. Wow, the cutoff was December first.
Speaker 2: I thought you were special.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Albert Lewis special.
Speaker 4: Albert Lewis had forty two in Orset.
Speaker 2: Okay, did well? He did?
Speaker 4: What did well? Did better? You had fifty seven.
Speaker 2: Let's not let's not dog out, let's not forget about
Speaker 2: the lesser man less really? Oh no, Lester Kent once
Speaker 2: the stick him left, Lester Lester's hands left. He's playing
Speaker 2: with just nubsies.
Speaker 4: But he's one of the thirty one two.
Speaker 2: It was a ball.
Speaker 4: Had thirteen picks in one season for you.
Speaker 2: It was including playoffs. That one of the best playoff
Speaker 2: runs ever. He had five picks in the in the
Speaker 2: playoffs going through the Super Bowl which they won. That yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe it was nineteen eight. I think overall he
Speaker 2: had like eighteen picks and he dropped like three or
Speaker 2: four of.
Speaker 4: Them, but he only had thirty nine in his career.
Speaker 2: I believe not enough Stickham, not enough stick. But they
Speaker 2: outlawed it.
Speaker 5: So not only Everson Walls, but Darren, Darren Woodson and
Speaker 5: one more. Once again out he's top fifty, Woody, Eric
Speaker 5: Williams and.
Speaker 4: Walls and.
Speaker 6: You got it, getting two should there'll be three of
Speaker 6: the old timers, Okay, I think that's what we are now.
Speaker 4: Three of us old divers. That'd be a good neighbor
Speaker 4: for the show.
Speaker 5: And then old timers. I've had somebody come up and
Speaker 5: say that to me, your guys show is really good
Speaker 5: because you guys can go into history. You're the old times.
Speaker 2: I just say, old dudes, that's all I say. And
Speaker 2: we go down a rabbit hole. That's what I'm telling him.
Speaker 2: What known for our rabbit holes.
Speaker 5: So it's almost like exhausting after promoting him and Woody
Speaker 5: all these years and now here it goes again. It's like,
Speaker 5: what more can I say? Because it's been said, no
Speaker 5: one's listening, there's no reason in the world. Wood he
Speaker 5: shouldn't be in and he's down to fifty. They go
Speaker 5: to twenty five and then they go to the finals
Speaker 5: that they talk about during the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So he's no more modern day.
Speaker 5: He is modern day?
Speaker 2: Oh good, good, yea.
Speaker 3: Eric Williams is close. I mean he's because I think
Speaker 3: on that the Seniors Committee or whatever, your last season
Speaker 3: had to be nineteen ninety nine or previous. Yes, so
Speaker 3: it's basically a last century deal. Well, Eric Williams last
Speaker 3: season playing was two thousand and one with the Ravens.
Speaker 3: He's with the Cowboys through two thousand. So that's sad
Speaker 3: to think about where those guys that played on the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl teams of the nineties are now almost old timers.
Speaker 5: They're they're aging out the best.
Speaker 4: That's right, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So congratulations on the thirty one and you got
Speaker 3: my vote.
Speaker 4: I appreciate for a top three.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that they just don't ask us for our Yeah whatever, good, but.
Speaker 5: They got our opinion.
Speaker 4: Let's put it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all have to go back and listen to yesterday's show.
Speaker 3: And Mickey doesn't want to say nice things in front
Speaker 3: of you, but say nice things about you behind your back.
Speaker 2: YESTERD. That's good. That's good. That's good because he knows
Speaker 2: I'm talking behind his back. Yeah, right, we have that
Speaker 2: kind of relate.
Speaker 3: Okay. I was about to say that coach tells me
Speaker 3: that they're going to spend half their time outside half
Speaker 3: the time inside today due to the heat.
Speaker 5: Could you believe yesterday it's October and had to have
Speaker 5: an IV after practice.
Speaker 4: A bunch of them.
Speaker 5: Well really, Osa for sure, because I was talking to
Speaker 5: him about how hot it was. He goes, yeah, he goes,
Speaker 5: can you imagine having to have an IV in October?
Speaker 5: It's like, well, yeah, would you consider that? That's why
Speaker 5: that tent still out there? The air conditioning IV tip,
Speaker 5: that's what that's for.
Speaker 3: This coach was saying this morning, which we were taping
Speaker 3: the Coaches Show, this near field is a lot cooler
Speaker 3: than the far field for whatever reason. And it was
Speaker 3: like when we were on the near field, which is
Speaker 3: the turf field, and I guess it's because of the shade, right,
Speaker 3: because you got more of a shade of the building
Speaker 3: on that near side. But he said, it's got to
Speaker 3: be a ten degree difference between one side of the field.
Speaker 5: When you're on the grass field that the sun is
Speaker 5: reflecting off that. I mean, I said grass, didn't I Yes,
Speaker 5: I was going to say the glass field. But the
Speaker 5: sun's reflecting off then.
Speaker 4: It's already it's already been.
Speaker 3: It's been baking for several hours in the sun over there.
Speaker 2: You would think the turf would be hotter.
Speaker 3: You would think it's in the shade for much and
Speaker 3: for much of the morning it's in the shade on
Speaker 3: that side.
Speaker 4: So I hadn't heat it up as much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you look at these guys, So they're
Speaker 2: going inside because of the heat, not because of the eyeballs.
Speaker 3: And he said they made it sound like because of
Speaker 3: the heat. That could have had something to do with
Speaker 3: it too.
Speaker 2: I was, you know, And I'm not trying to be
Speaker 2: funny on air, goant to anything, but I would like
Speaker 2: to ask coaches if they think, and I'm talking about
Speaker 2: comparing the nineteen seventies guys and nineteen eighties guys to now,
Speaker 2: are we getting whimpier? I mean, you know, I know
Speaker 2: I wasn't as tough as as the guys before me,
Speaker 2: you know, but but didn't they didn't even give them water,
Speaker 2: you know, And we were we were part of that
Speaker 2: generation of hey, you're not getting water today.
Speaker 5: We got two ice cubes.
Speaker 2: Right, see what I'm saying, And yet we're here, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean many times I went through practice to whether
Speaker 2: in high school the coach was a jerk. Hey, we're
Speaker 2: not having water today because you guys are doing well?
Speaker 2: I mean, are we wimpier.
Speaker 5: We started bargaining for you don't want your ice cube,
Speaker 5: I'll take.
Speaker 2: The cue.
Speaker 5: Ice in Chicago. You have your summers, yes, yes, and
Speaker 5: the lake's not far away from humidity.
Speaker 2: I wonder if you've got talked to different coaches from
Speaker 2: different eras, what would they say about how we have
Speaker 2: to and I don't want to use.
Speaker 5: You here to get to drink all the water you want?
Speaker 2: Wow, get away to gotta be different.
Speaker 5: And then the worst part was is they would give
Speaker 5: us salt tablets. And I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: How happy that. I never was good with that.
Speaker 5: We got saltb Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I think I just I wasn't sure about that. I
Speaker 2: let my go.
Speaker 5: I think, trade your salt tablet for an ice cube?
Speaker 3: All right, So you got an injury report, and where
Speaker 3: would you like to start on that? About we start
Speaker 3: with John Stevens.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: John Stevens tied in tours a c L again again
Speaker 5: in practice, same same one, same I believe it was Wow,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter if same or other. It's just he's
Speaker 5: done for the year after coming back from the torn
Speaker 5: al in training camp last year, and and uh, Mike
Speaker 5: was saying that, Yeah, it's a shame because after the bye,
Speaker 5: they were trying to get him more involved, uh in
Speaker 5: the offense and get him maybe get him some snaps
Speaker 5: because he could have been, uh probably would have been
Speaker 5: a pretty good uh down the field receiver as a
Speaker 5: tight end. I mean, especially his size with the speed
Speaker 5: and yeah, just uh just unfortunately, well.
Speaker 3: He started his career at TCU and then he transferred
Speaker 3: to one of the schools in louis Louisiana.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeatt, Yeah, now it's Louisiana. Yeah, and that's that's
Speaker 5: a shame. They they listed him on the injury report
Speaker 5: is limited. He was very limited with a knee. Uh.
Speaker 5: Doran Bland Uh sounds like he was going to start
Speaker 5: in the rehab guys today. He rehabbed yesterday, did not practice.
Speaker 5: The foot got sore that week that Friday of the
Speaker 5: Detroit game after practicing twice and seemingly practicing well. Uh,
Speaker 5: so they were going to start him at rehab and
Speaker 5: then see where it goes. Michael Parsons still with the
Speaker 5: rehab group. He was doing the resistance cords yesterday, but
Speaker 5: you know those things, it's step by step by step.
Speaker 5: It's not playing foot and today's right and today's the
Speaker 5: padded practice. So I don't know that that looks, you know,
Speaker 5: encouraging that he'd be ready to go. Mike put it
Speaker 5: as we have to wait till Saturday to see if
Speaker 5: he practices on Saturday. The encouraging was was Eric Kendricks
Speaker 5: with the shoulder. He was limited, so that was better
Speaker 5: than what it was last week, and he's been running,
Speaker 5: so I think it's encouraging that he should be close
Speaker 5: to returning. Same thing with Nick Vigil who kind of
Speaker 5: was one of the backups in the middle. He had
Speaker 5: seventy He had been dealing with an injury. He only
Speaker 5: had seventeen snaps against Detroit, but they listed him as limited,
Speaker 5: so he kind of moved in the right direction, you know,
Speaker 5: and with him out, Kendrick's out, DeMont Clark ended up
Speaker 5: playing fifty five snaps in the game and played well,
Speaker 5: by the way, So those were the main guys they started.
Speaker 5: Jordan Phillips on his twenty one day ramp up from
Speaker 5: injured reserve, although he didn't seem he had a wrist,
Speaker 5: Remember he kind of disputed that he had a wrist.
Speaker 5: Listening to him yesterday, a man of few words, he
Speaker 5: didn't seem all that enthus that he was going to
Speaker 5: start practicing again, he kept saying. So somebody asked him, so,
Speaker 5: when do you think you can play, and it was like, well,
Speaker 5: you have to talk to the coaches. Well, what's the
Speaker 5: plan for you got to talk to the coaches?
Speaker 4: So he still pretty sure.
Speaker 3: He was less than enthused when he went on IR
Speaker 3: to begin with yeah, well yeah, So now.
Speaker 2: You were making it sound like, damn, I gotta come
Speaker 2: back and play.
Speaker 5: Well I think it was more like, I don't know
Speaker 5: what they're going to do with me once I clear
Speaker 5: a physical, So we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2: So at tight end, what are we left with.
Speaker 4: The same guys?
Speaker 3: Stevens hasn't really been playing because he's been heard, but
Speaker 3: they were shown one of the big things McCarthy was
Speaker 3: talking about and losing Stevens today.
Speaker 4: Coming out of the bye.
Speaker 3: Week, they were hoping to be able to implement even
Speaker 3: more where he might be active on game day because
Speaker 3: they really like his progress and what he can add.
Speaker 5: He was on the fifty three. He was just an
Speaker 5: act of.
Speaker 3: Every every way because he's been dealing with an injury,
Speaker 3: but tight end. To answer your question, you got the
Speaker 3: three guys that have been active every week, Jake Ferguson
Speaker 3: and then schoon Luke Schoonmaker second round pick from last year,
Speaker 3: and then the rookie free eight college free agent rebens.
Speaker 5: Band for who's been getting snaps. Yeah, the way, So
Speaker 5: that's kind of where that's And then you've got the fullback.
Speaker 2: So how's how's Cooks the wide receiver.
Speaker 5: He's they put him on an injured reserve. He's out
Speaker 5: and he's four games.
Speaker 3: Four games, which means he's not back until he can't
Speaker 3: come back until the Philadelphia game.
Speaker 4: So he's out for sure. The next two weeks.
Speaker 5: He ended with the infection. He ended up with antibiotic
Speaker 5: what do you call it IV? Yeah, it was it
Speaker 5: was serious.
Speaker 4: He was on the sideline for the Detroit game. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean he's back in the locker room and everything.
Speaker 5: And Sam Williams I saw back in the locker room too.
Speaker 2: By the way, Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 5: He's there. We'll see if they decide that they need him.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: The good news is is Guiding was not on the
Speaker 5: injury port so he's good to go. So they should
Speaker 5: be back with him at left tackle, Tyler Smith at
Speaker 5: left guard, and.
Speaker 2: That's where we want Tyler. That's where we feel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that, you know, I mean you kind
Speaker 5: of you make two moves to you know, basically get
Speaker 5: by one, and sometimes, you know, you lose the continuity
Speaker 5: on your offensive line. Plus you had a guy with
Speaker 5: very little experience playing left guard and a rookie playing
Speaker 5: center next to each other, and then Tyler Smith playing
Speaker 5: tackle that he hadn't played since his rookie year.
Speaker 2: To me, that's you know, you want some consistency. That's
Speaker 2: a consistent offensive line right there, I mean where they are.
Speaker 2: I don't like them being moved around, and so keep
Speaker 2: them consistent in their position.
Speaker 5: And let him keep growing right spot. And know what
Speaker 5: what Mike said the other day was you don't let
Speaker 5: He said, he's got to get his confidence going, not
Speaker 5: to sit there in the valleys and just kind of
Speaker 5: keep worrying about a mistake.
Speaker 4: Just move on.
Speaker 2: That was very articulate. The valleys, the valley.
Speaker 3: You know, I was watching last night some San Francisco
Speaker 3: coaches film and against Kansas City, and I was thinking,
Speaker 3: you know what, Tyler might be able if he's watching this, Uh,
Speaker 3: he might be able to gain some confidence because the
Speaker 3: guy playing left tackle for Kansas City is jan Yer Morris,
Speaker 3: who was their third round pick last year, well two
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 4: One Ya Morris and.
Speaker 3: Tyler Geyton basically shared right tackle at Oklahoma. Morris was
Speaker 3: on suspension to start the year getting started, and then
Speaker 3: Morris came back and was the start and they kind of.
Speaker 5: Got suspended at Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I was thinking, So I'm sitting there thinking,
Speaker 3: and one Ya Morris was doing all right, you know,
Speaker 3: because they got Nick Bosa and early in the game
Speaker 3: they had Leonard Floyd playing right defensive end and Bosa
Speaker 3: was on the left side. And I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 3: if Tyler Guyton's watching this, he knows what one Ya
Speaker 3: Morris is about. He knows he's as good as one
Speaker 3: Ya Morris, and he ought to gain some confidence for us.
Speaker 3: And then about then, yeah, probably has but been about
Speaker 3: late first quarter, Nick Bosa moved over to the other
Speaker 3: side and he went right around one Yer Morris and
Speaker 3: Sacty quarterback, and I said, well, maybe he won't gain coffee.
Speaker 4: Maybe he shouldn't be looking at this. This is gonna
Speaker 4: hurt us comment that's right.
Speaker 5: So quickly San Francisco.
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Speaker 3: Wait, we finally got that raid right when Mickey was
Speaker 3: saying that it was thunderstuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was under stuck.
Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to the injury report for the
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine Ers.
Speaker 5: Well, we know they had to put Brandan ayuk on
Speaker 5: I R torn acl in.
Speaker 4: That Chimco and yeah, I was gonna bring that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Juwan Jennings, who had been their leading wide receivers,
Speaker 5: got a hip injury. He did not practice, and from
Speaker 5: what you can take from Shanahan and whatever else was
Speaker 5: going on, it doesn't sound like he's gonna make it.
Speaker 5: And then Deebo Samuel, it says risk illness. Well, he
Speaker 5: had pneumonia and was in the hospital.
Speaker 2: He did not practice.
Speaker 5: Uh, he's out of the hospital now, so we'll see.
Speaker 5: I thought Mike had a pretty good answer to the
Speaker 5: question about how do you how do you prepare if
Speaker 5: a guy you don't know if he's gonna play or not.
Speaker 5: And obviously he says, well you got to prepare like
Speaker 5: you're gonna play. He goes, but I really think they
Speaker 5: should rest him.
Speaker 4: I would rest.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And by the way, we have an update from your
Speaker 3: favorite Internet doctor, doctor David Chow the profile.
Speaker 2: Yeah absolute, He.
Speaker 4: Says, don't see Deebo Samuel being close to one hundred
Speaker 4: percent this week.
Speaker 5: Oh really, he's not going to be one hundred he said.
Speaker 3: He said two hours ago. You can't go from fluid
Speaker 3: in your lungs to full health and place seventy plus plays.
Speaker 5: Well, maybe he can play thirty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he's saying. He doesn't seem close to
Speaker 3: one percent. He doesn't see him playing a full slate
Speaker 3: of plays. Seventy plays.
Speaker 5: Now, this one kind of cropped up. George Kittle foot injury.
Speaker 5: He did not practice. Their kicker, Jake Moody with an ankle.
Speaker 4: He did not practice, and he didn't kick last year.
Speaker 5: He didn't kick right. No, because they tried to do
Speaker 5: the on site kick.
Speaker 4: The worst.
Speaker 5: They tried to do a watermelon.
Speaker 2: He whiffed.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if it's a watermelon. I think
Speaker 4: he's just a basic one.
Speaker 5: He just missed it well and laying down flat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's how man.
Speaker 4: Yeah I laughed aloud, but I saw that.
Speaker 5: Actually, he told my wife, you got to see this.
Speaker 5: Oh do you hear so? Funy Brake what Brady said
Speaker 5: when they're doing the game, He goes, that looked like
Speaker 5: one of my shots off the tacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just kind of dr Yeah, you're looking for
Speaker 2: it there, but is going right over there.
Speaker 5: And also Kevin Gibbons, he's a backup tackle.
Speaker 4: Defensive tackle.
Speaker 5: Growing he did not practice. He's got three and a
Speaker 5: half sacks, but he plays behind Colin.
Speaker 4: Who's got three sacks.
Speaker 5: Three sacks.
Speaker 2: You were due.
Speaker 5: We may not remember this, but his rookie year with
Speaker 5: the Cowboys, he had five sacks as a defensive tackle.
Speaker 5: Remember he was he was a heavyweight wrestler out of Nebraska.
Speaker 5: He was a good player. They just couldn't afford him
Speaker 5: after his four years were up. And then Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's still on IR and I think they're
Speaker 5: looking at next week's by like maybe after the bye
Speaker 5: he'll be ready to go. But is it Jordan Jordan Mason?
Speaker 4: Yes, JP Mason, Jordan or JP you can go with you?
Speaker 5: Six and sixty seven yards rushing. He's second in the
Speaker 5: NFL to Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2: And they really didn't and he was injured in the
Speaker 2: second half last week.
Speaker 3: He got he got hurt two weeks ago and he
Speaker 3: wound up playing the full game basically against Kansas City.
Speaker 4: He had a shoulder right, but.
Speaker 2: They didn't really give it to him in the second half.
Speaker 2: He was So that's when the other.
Speaker 4: Isaac Garrido was.
Speaker 5: He a draft choice.
Speaker 3: He was a college free agent of Georgia Tech two
Speaker 3: years ago. He's another one that Tashard Choice coached in college.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that running back whisperer to show to show
Speaker 2: a choice.
Speaker 5: So so they've got injury problems. Also, they could very
Speaker 5: well be everybody. You know, the Cowboys were out without
Speaker 5: their top four defensive ends. They could be without their
Speaker 5: top three wide receivers.
Speaker 2: So are they considering going out and getting anybody?
Speaker 5: Well? I read a story and they were it was
Speaker 5: it was on well, it was on the San Francisco
Speaker 5: Chronicle and then something in the No, it had to
Speaker 5: be the Chronicle because they didn't have many stories on
Speaker 5: their website about they wanted to Somebody was saying they
Speaker 5: got to go trade for Hopkins. I guess they were
Speaker 5: a little late on the.
Speaker 2: Man. I knew the hop was going to make a
Speaker 2: move somewhere.
Speaker 5: Ye with his seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's because he's like he's like Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: He doesn't try until it's convenient to believe that. They
Speaker 2: don't try until they're trying to make a point. I
Speaker 2: had to process that. I'm serious, mano. They you know,
Speaker 2: if they're in the right position, then you'll see what
Speaker 2: they're really work. But you know, if they don't go
Speaker 2: right for them, then you'll just they kind of fade
Speaker 2: into the bushes.
Speaker 4: So is he trying now, Aaron Rodgers, You're not trying now?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's trying now it's too late. Well no,
Speaker 2: let me stop. It's never too late to make a run.
Speaker 2: But he's put his team in a position to where
Speaker 2: they got a long road to hope, long road to hope.
Speaker 5: So San Francisco, I understand they're three and four, but
Speaker 5: they've got the third ranked offense in the league. They're
Speaker 5: pretty good total offense, so you know they're averaging twenty
Speaker 5: six points a game. Cowboys are at twenty one. And
Speaker 5: the other thing. While I mentioned Kittle, he leads them
Speaker 5: with five touchdown receptions. Perdy has run for one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty four yards. He has run for seventeen first
Speaker 5: downs seventeen seventeen first downs he's run for this year.
Speaker 5: To put that in.
Speaker 3: In perspective, all of last season he ran for fifteen
Speaker 3: first downs in seventeen and playing seventeen games last year,
Speaker 3: fifteen first downs through seven games. This year, he's run
Speaker 3: for seventeen first downs.
Speaker 5: We were chatting with Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 2: By necessity, he needs to well I think so.
Speaker 5: Chatting with Jordan Lewis and it kind of surprised me.
Speaker 5: We were talking about, you know, needing to stop their
Speaker 5: run and he goes, well perty two and it's like
Speaker 5: perty two. Well he's at who said this? Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 5: He pointed it out. He averages four and a half
Speaker 5: yards a carry, so, uh, you know he is running more.
Speaker 5: I don't think we associate him, you know, with running
Speaker 5: the ball. It's all about throwing it.
Speaker 3: He's Mahomes like and that when things are breaking down,
Speaker 3: he's smart. He can go to go and get the
Speaker 3: first down. Yeah, take care of yourself and do it.
Speaker 3: Use a ball, faight and get thirty three yards.
Speaker 4: Down the sideline. He doesn't do that, but Mahomes doesn't.
Speaker 5: Well he's gonna He's gonna pay for it someday.
Speaker 4: Mahomes is.
Speaker 2: Yes, he sounds personally.
Speaker 4: He sounds like he's personally.
Speaker 5: All that tiptoeing down the sideline and waving somebody.
Speaker 2: He gets a little.
Speaker 3: If Nicky was on the sideline, if the Cowboys ever
Speaker 3: played the Chiefs and Mickey's on the sideline, he's going
Speaker 3: to trip.
Speaker 2: Him, Nona Tomlin, or he's going to be like the
Speaker 2: security guy, Big Dob.
Speaker 4: Come off the bench and tackle.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Tommy Lewis nineteen fifty eight Cotton Bowl Classic.
Speaker 4: Wow remember that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that's when he came out and tackled.
Speaker 4: Yeh tackle, Yeah, Dicky Magle on a ninety nine yard run.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine what's going through somebody's head to do that?
Speaker 5: That? You got all fired up? Yeah, damn it, he's
Speaker 5: not scoring.
Speaker 2: It had to be more than just school rivalver there.
Speaker 2: It's like they knew each other. I'm not gonna let
Speaker 2: a score. I'm not gonna let this guy score. Now.
Speaker 5: They overruled the tackle, right, they gave him.
Speaker 4: They gave him a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, that's smart.
Speaker 5: What would they do now, well that they changed the
Speaker 5: interference call or the non interference call, whatever they.
Speaker 4: Would want, they would give him a touchdown, now, wouldn't Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think so?
Speaker 2: You think so? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Now what what that Tomlin did that?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Tomlin? What did they do on that trip?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: They didn't give him a score. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: he did not get the score. Maybe they didn't think
Speaker 2: he was that guy in pursuit who could have had
Speaker 2: him but you know Tom makes the move.
Speaker 3: I'm going to look it up, and guys, we come
Speaker 3: back here on Mixed Shots for our final segment of
Speaker 3: the day, I'll have that answer and much more.
Speaker 2: Rabbit whole.
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin tripping.
Speaker 5: Well, Now, if you don't like a call and you
Speaker 5: think it's bad, just throw water bottles on.
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Speaker 3: Me and the Tomlin play was the twenty thirteen Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: Day game between the Steelers and the Ravens, a Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: night game, and he turned He got fined one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars for one did turn what appeared to be
Speaker 3: going to be a Jacoby Jones touchdown into a seventy
Speaker 3: three yard return He got caught from by or oh
Speaker 3: back then, because that was like twenty thirteen to eleven
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow. One hundred gees mm hmm.
Speaker 4: But it saved the touchdown, and so they did not
Speaker 4: give it to it, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see him being that generous on them,
Speaker 2: not these days. Oh yeah, you just have the touchdown
Speaker 2: and he didn't score. That's right. So the guy that
Speaker 2: back in the day, old school, when they stopped him,
Speaker 2: they added that touchdown to his to his numbers.
Speaker 4: Dicky Magle back in nineteen, I want how many how many.
Speaker 2: How many pumps or kickoff returns he has? Well, including
Speaker 2: that one that was given to him by default.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Jacobe Jones, of course this summer
Speaker 3: passed away until that's true?
Speaker 2: Hell a play?
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh well I look that up for ever since.
Speaker 4: Benefit Mickey, you take us some other place you'd like
Speaker 4: to go, Yeah, let's go here.
Speaker 5: So did you hear did you fight your way through
Speaker 5: the tours to get here?
Speaker 2: First of all, let me say I don't see any
Speaker 2: tours coming by here today.
Speaker 5: So you're good. Somebody's listening your content, your concentrations, good.
Speaker 2: Wondering if he's like, yeah, the two that's our problem. No,
Speaker 2: that's why win.
Speaker 5: If you put the dollar sign next to it that
Speaker 5: got pointed out the tours will continue. Okay, give me.
Speaker 5: That is the weakest thing I think I've ever heard
Speaker 5: that making a story on this reporter came in here
Speaker 5: and and I was wondering, like she got access where
Speaker 5: normal tours don't go, right, she bought a ticket and
Speaker 5: took a tour and then interviewed people on the tour
Speaker 5: and watched what they were saying. Right, all right, So
Speaker 5: this whole thing started a couple of years ago with
Speaker 5: Dalton Schultz. He got to Houston, and he was but
Speaker 5: hurt that the Cowboys didn't pay him, if you remember,
Speaker 5: and and was bitter the whole season he played here
Speaker 5: on the on the franchise franchise, and then he ended
Speaker 5: up going to Houston, right, And when he got there,
Speaker 5: he said, Yeah, when you're over there, it's like a zoo.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to lift weights and the people are looking
Speaker 5: through the windows and pointing at me. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: You can't lift weights because somebody's looking at you. And
Speaker 5: then and then the guys that were quoted in the story,
Speaker 5: one of them was Dante Fowler, And I saw the
Speaker 5: next day or the same day the story came out,
Speaker 5: he said, I didn't say that so I don't know.
Speaker 5: You know, you usually don't. If you lied, you you know,
Speaker 5: you don't make a big deal out of it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: The other people that she interviewed, Jayron Curse. Where's Jaywon
Speaker 5: Curse today?
Speaker 4: He's not playing on a team anymore.
Speaker 5: Kelvin Joseph practice squad.
Speaker 2: Is that what you thought.
Speaker 5: Laurance Armstrong had something to say and what needed to
Speaker 5: be put out is if the Cowboys had offered him
Speaker 5: a three year, three million dollar deal with twenty million guarantee,
Speaker 5: you think he would have left because he was offended
Speaker 5: by the tours. I want to go someplace where there's peace.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I heard this, and I'm not going to call him out. Okay,
Speaker 3: but a reputable national NFL analyst, Okay, he actually works
Speaker 3: for another team on a national show yesterday afternoon was.
Speaker 4: Talking about this story and talking about Dalton.
Speaker 3: Schultz and he said on the air, that's the reason
Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz signed me.
Speaker 2: No, he did not.
Speaker 3: I about rent off the road yelling at my radio.
Speaker 3: That is not the reason Dalton Schultz signed with the
Speaker 3: Houston Texans. He signed because he got offered more money.
Speaker 5: And these guys were talking about that.
Speaker 2: He was on the franchise heat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they didn't want to give him the
Speaker 5: money and they weren't given them more next year. Right,
Speaker 5: So some of that guy, these guys were saying, yeah,
Speaker 5: when they go from to their position and meetings, they
Speaker 5: had to walk through tours.
Speaker 3: The tours don't go where.
Speaker 2: So this lady started this was her idea.
Speaker 3: Remember back in the nineties or in the eighties in
Speaker 3: your case, when at Valley Ranch in the locker room, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it was a zoo in the locker room
Speaker 3: back then, and at Valley Ranch there would be guys, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: There was a number of people in close quarters in
Speaker 4: the locker.
Speaker 2: Room let the ladies in, so you really had to
Speaker 2: be careful.
Speaker 5: It was jewelry man back in the nineties, right, selling
Speaker 5: jewelry during the open locker room.
Speaker 4: Vernon Wells had his arm Vernon Wells selling eighties.
Speaker 2: I mean we.
Speaker 3: Literally as members of the media, I remember this where
Speaker 3: we would go. The locker room was open on a
Speaker 3: Monday after a game starting at nine am, and we
Speaker 3: would sit there and wait for guys.
Speaker 2: To come in back.
Speaker 4: And we parked in the parking lot right next to
Speaker 4: ever have any room in that.
Speaker 5: There was a tailor selling men'swear in there, and the
Speaker 5: guy that was catering food at Thanksgiving would take orders
Speaker 5: for smoked and fried turkeys in the locker room, and
Speaker 5: they were great, by the.
Speaker 2: Way I bought it.
Speaker 3: And now the Cowboys are in a facility as big
Speaker 3: as a shopping mall, and the doers are a distraction,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, and some no distraction.
Speaker 5: Somehow they won three out of four Super Bowls, five
Speaker 5: consecutive winning seasons, by the way, four straight NFC title games,
Speaker 5: and they weren't distracted. But they also had from nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety one through ninety six fifty one Pro Bowl guys,
Speaker 5: not but invitations, right, yes, fifty one. You think maybe
Speaker 5: that had something to do with the sequent that.
Speaker 2: We thrived on that which if it wasn't chaotic around
Speaker 2: the the locker room, then we were doing something wrong.
Speaker 5: So when I was walking, I think about it.
Speaker 3: About nineteen ninety six is when they closed the doors
Speaker 3: where the media only can come in there every forty
Speaker 3: five minutes.
Speaker 4: That's what they need to do open season in the
Speaker 4: locker room.
Speaker 5: If you remember, when we got to Valley Ranch, the
Speaker 5: three newspapers had an office right there by the door
Speaker 5: where the players walked in, and I would know if
Speaker 5: somebody left on crutches, right, I'd leave.
Speaker 4: This sounds like a mixshot.
Speaker 5: It's just so bogus, just ridiculous. You can't concentrate because
Speaker 5: somebody like walk by. You are you kidding me? I
Speaker 5: could think when I was at the paper and We're
Speaker 5: covering the MAVs game, sit in court side, right, eighteen
Speaker 5: thousand people screaming at the end of a game, and
Speaker 5: I'm trying to write on deadline, and I got to
Speaker 5: just have the story done and then plug in the score. Right.
Speaker 5: You think if I didn't write a good story, I'm
Speaker 5: going to go and say, well, you know, I was distracted.
Speaker 5: These people were making a lot of noise while I
Speaker 5: was trying to write. They're playing football, give me a break.
Speaker 5: It was the lamest thing I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I was very surprised this week. This week it came
Speaker 2: up somewhere and I'm like, wow, Now, if you want.
Speaker 5: To write a story, if you want to write a
Speaker 5: story and talk about how the cowboys are making money
Speaker 5: handover fists with the fine right.
Speaker 2: People want to come either, that's not news either, And.
Speaker 5: Then to try to say This is the reason why
Speaker 5: the Cowboys are struggling and the players, these guys that
Speaker 5: are bitter because they're not here anymore. Give me a break.
Speaker 2: This is this is status quo for the Cowboys. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have people around, You're gonna have media around, You're
Speaker 2: gonna have fans around. That's why, that's why you're the
Speaker 2: number one sports franchise in the world, because of tours like.
Speaker 5: That and because of all this. There's a reason why
Speaker 5: these former players are on TV right now, right, thank you.
Speaker 5: Everybody knows who they.
Speaker 4: Are, okay, which leads us to this. As we closeup
Speaker 4: this edition.
Speaker 5: One more one more so, there's a headline in the
Speaker 5: San Francisco c.
Speaker 4: Have to go take a segment for the Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Hey, who cares, We got a mixed shot. Go away.
Speaker 4: If you don't want to keep talking, let me go ahead.
Speaker 5: Just finish here. There's a headline in the San Francisco Chronicle.
Speaker 5: It was a calmness and it said, uh, forty Cowboys
Speaker 5: getting ready for forty nine ers game. They are a
Speaker 5: train wreck and tried to use this story and what
Speaker 5: Jerry did on the radio the week before as.
Speaker 2: This is a train let's see how people are jumping
Speaker 2: on this as legitimate. Yes, it sounds silly from the
Speaker 2: outside and it is silly.
Speaker 3: So for them to getting asked about it in press conferences,
Speaker 3: I mean what he's saying, well, asked about Jerry Comedys
Speaker 3: and all that happened.
Speaker 5: If people know about it. Because when I was coming here,
Speaker 5: I had to walk through the tour that Eric sham
Speaker 5: Brad's brother was doing, and he had said something to me.
Speaker 5: I said, hey, knock it off. I got to concentrate.
Speaker 5: I got a podcast, and they all started laughing.
Speaker 3: All right, now we close with this because you brought
Speaker 3: up or I brought up Dicky Magle. Okay, he ran
Speaker 3: ninety five yards for a touchdown. Tommy Lewis came off
Speaker 3: the bench your Alabama and tackle Edam and he got
Speaker 3: rewarded the ninety five yard touchdown. You asked the question,
Speaker 3: did Dicky Magle ever do anything?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, in that particular game, Dicky Magle ran for two
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty five yards in three touchdowns, which was
Speaker 3: a Cotton Bowl Classic record.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: That was the nineteen fifty four Cotton Bowl. In nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty five, Dicky Magle made the Pro Bowl for the
Speaker 3: San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Wait brings us back to.
Speaker 3: And my research shows Dicky Magle finished his in a
Speaker 3: FL career with what team, Dallas Cowboys. So he was
Speaker 3: the first player in NFL history to play for both
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys and the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: And there you have it, Thursday edition unveiled. Okay, we
Speaker 4: brought it.
Speaker 3: We tied it all together right there at the end,
Speaker 3: and I gotta go take a segment if y'all want
Speaker 3: to continue talking. Y'all want to continue talking, continue, But
Speaker 3: I got other things, more important things.
Speaker 2: We'll see it.
Speaker 5: Dicky Magles in the roster here, and he's not.
Speaker 2: That's how long ago we're saying Wikipedia is not right. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're going to put a pin on that verification.
Speaker 5: Maybe he spells his name different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's O A M A E or m O E.
Speaker 4: Either way, m O maybe gotta go.
Speaker 5: By nineteen sixty, it has been
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