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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jenna Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we've got some headlines this week to discuss.

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Speaker 2: Reader one is about charging your kid's rent at the

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Speaker 2: age of six years old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, can you just explain to the listeners this one,

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Speaker 1: because I see the headline and I'm like, this is

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Speaker 1: clearly just made an.

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Speaker 3: A joke reference.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's actually not a joke reference and I can

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Speaker 2: I can see the logic for it, so let me

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Speaker 2: explain it. So my dad, who charges his six year

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Speaker 2: old child rent, says it's good for her character. Financial

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Speaker 2: literacy is so important. So essentially he sets her chores

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Speaker 2: and tasks to do, and he pays her for them.

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Speaker 2: And then at the end of the week he goes

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Speaker 2: into he knocks on the door, he's into her room

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Speaker 2: and she has to have her rent prepared in a

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Speaker 2: little envelope and him the rent. That's the basis of it.

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Speaker 2: It's also it's not just rent, it's rent, and oh

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Speaker 2: there's a dollar for utilities as well, so.

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Speaker 1: It'll be three dollars for rent and then one dollar utilities.

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Speaker 2: And the dad says, okay, thank you, seeing I see

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Speaker 2: you next month. Now I can see the logic in it.

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Speaker 2: I really can, because it gets your child financial savvy

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Speaker 2: at that point. But it's six years old, I understand it.

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Speaker 2: Ten maybe maybe nine a stretch, but ten upwards. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: now you need to know about money. Now, you need

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Speaker 2: to know about responsibility and chos. They need to know

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Speaker 2: about choes before that. But I don't think there has

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Speaker 2: to be a transaction until they're a little bit older,

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Speaker 2: like Jolie has to. I was just thinking this just

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Speaker 2: some morning. The kids have to be a little bit

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Speaker 2: more organized than the mornings now with Choe stuff, because

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Speaker 2: we'll get Roman to get ready for.

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Speaker 3: School two of the days, yeah, two.

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Speaker 4: Of the days.

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Speaker 2: So like the chores that have been set out, like

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Speaker 2: jolly feeding the dog, wish she dead this morning?

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Speaker 1: Did you?

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Speaker 2: Without being naskedy? We and so these things are important

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Speaker 2: because of the structure and responsibility and accountability piece, But

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Speaker 2: I don't think that should be transactional stuff to the

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Speaker 2: at least ten.

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Speaker 1: Here's my thing with it. So I love the concept

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Speaker 1: of it, and you know, I am very much on

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Speaker 1: uh like I I was raised in a you work

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Speaker 1: for what you get or what you want, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's why I've grinded as hard as I have

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Speaker 1: because I wasn't given things like so there's a piece

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Speaker 1: of it where like, yes, I had to quit skating

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Speaker 1: because when my parents got divorced, they couldn't afford it anymore.

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Speaker 1: And things like that make me work harder because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I never want my kids to have to quit a

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Speaker 1: sport because I can't afford it. But when it comes

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Speaker 1: to cars, that was very much the thing. And I've

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Speaker 1: talked about this before where it's, you know, my dad's like,

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Speaker 1: if you want a car, you have to get a job.

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Speaker 1: And so I got a waitressing job at fifteen and

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Speaker 1: he co signed obviously because I had no credit at fifteen,

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Speaker 1: but he co signed. But I paid for my payments right,

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Speaker 1: and just how my grandpa did it for my brother.

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Speaker 1: My grandpa made my brother, And this is what this is.

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Speaker 1: This is what I would I think I want to do,

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Speaker 1: is what my grandpa did for my brother. But I

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Speaker 1: am not of the mindset where it's like, here's a car,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people disagree with me on that

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Speaker 1: when it comes to that, like, I don't think we're

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Speaker 4: I think it's definitely because choice so far away.

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Speaker 3: It's just want of a nice let's talk about remen.

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Speaker 4: Oh, are you going to charge Roman rent that's six

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Speaker 4: years old?

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Speaker 1: So this is like so this is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I think it's different. So I don't love the word

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Speaker 1: rent right because I want my kids to feel safe

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Speaker 1: in their home. I want them to feel like this

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Speaker 1: is their home. They don't need to pay to live

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Speaker 1: in their their home that they have. I want them

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Speaker 1: to have chores in the home that they have. And

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Speaker 1: I think when Jolie gets to a certain age, I

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Speaker 1: think six is too young again. I get this to

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Speaker 1: I love the dad's motivation in this. I don't love

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Speaker 1: that it goes to the home aspect again, just because

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Speaker 1: I want kids to feel like they shouldn't have to

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Speaker 1: to me, like if you want to pay for extra

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Speaker 1: like this is their home and they should feel like

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Speaker 1: they can, you know, rest in the comfort of their

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Speaker 1: home to not have to worry about paying for home

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Speaker 1: like lord, you know what I mean, Like they only

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Speaker 1: have what eighteen years of that to rest of not

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Speaker 1: having to have a payment for rent, you know. But

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Speaker 1: I think I love the aspect of the flip side

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Speaker 1: of it, where helping them understand money. So there's this

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Speaker 1: new credit card thing where they can germs where they

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Speaker 1: can uh like, if Jolie wants something out of like

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Speaker 3: Then you know, these.

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Speaker 1: Are chores and certain rewards and stuff like that that

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Speaker 1: I think, well, I'll like I would like to implement.

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Speaker 1: And she makes, you know, some residual money from her

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Speaker 1: movie that she did, and so there's a piece of

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Speaker 1: that where it's like, all right, we've I've put ninety

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Speaker 1: nine percent of it away in her account, but there

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Speaker 1: are the one percent where it's like, do you want

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Speaker 3: And I think that is good.

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Speaker 1: And then when it comes to the car, it's you

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Speaker 1: work for your car, Like I'm not just going to

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Speaker 1: be like, here's a car. And I think that's where

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Speaker 1: I know my ex and I are going to butt

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Speaker 1: heads and we've already talked about that being butting heads.

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Speaker 1: But also he was given everything, And he also can

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Speaker 1: say that that was a negative effect because then he

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Speaker 1: expected like he didn't have to really work hard. And

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Speaker 1: again he worked hard because he was in football whatever,

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Speaker 1: but like there was a piece of that where I

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Speaker 1: think it affected him just being like here's money, here's this,

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Speaker 1: here's that. Yeah, the work ethic in it, I think

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Speaker 1: was affected. Okay, So with Roman, like what obviously we're

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Speaker 1: not no, I did, what would we do when it

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Speaker 3: Cars? And then when they're older, it's like.

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Speaker 2: Well he has to work to pay towards your car. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you've got to work to survive. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the most important thing is you have to You have

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Speaker 2: to learn, regardless of what age it as. Whether it's

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Speaker 2: like I had a paper around it twelve years old,

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Speaker 2: so I had to if I wanted things, I had

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Speaker 2: to go and keep my to keep my customers, to

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Speaker 4: So I think I'm of.

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Speaker 2: The basis of you've got, you've got, You've got am

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Speaker 2: to survive.

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Speaker 4: Somehow.

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Speaker 2: It might not be enough to pay a car, but

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Speaker 2: it's going to be enough to take your girlfriend on

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Speaker 2: a day, and it's going to be enough that if

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Speaker 2: you want a pair of shoes, you can go get

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Speaker 2: a pair of shoes. Right, You're gonna you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to airn to survive at some point, regardless of what

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Speaker 2: the age is. So I think, are you going to

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Speaker 2: be enough to pay for everything you need at a

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Speaker 2: young age? Probably not, which is why don't need to

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Speaker 2: lean on us at some point.

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Speaker 1: Right And then when they're out of the house, it's

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Speaker 1: like I lived with like five roommates.

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Speaker 3: You know, so it's they also have to get that piece.

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Speaker 1: I think from what I've seen is there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of and I don't know generations. It's so interesting to

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Speaker 1: see each generation different, right, I don't know what art

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Speaker 1: like what Roman's generation will where they'll be at, you know,

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Speaker 1: or what they'll want to do. But I can tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, I wouldn't be like, here's this, you know,

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Speaker 1: life is going to be hard, and then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a lot of payments and you they have to

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Speaker 1: instill that into your kids.

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Speaker 3: And I think.

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Speaker 1: For those that don't know the story about my grandpa,

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Speaker 1: but my brother bought my grandma's car and this is

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Speaker 1: really funny because it was remember back in the day,

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Speaker 1: there's this mary Kay. Mary Kay was like an estay lotters, okay,

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Speaker 1: Colored buick, right, and there is a mary Kay sticker

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Speaker 1: like in the back that like he just like could

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Speaker 1: very German, was like, every month that this you send

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Speaker 1: He paid my grandpa on time every single month. And

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Speaker 1: then invest it. And I love that. I think it's

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Speaker 1: so good. And that's spoiler alert Jolie and Jason Roman.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would love to do if given, I'm

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Speaker 1: able to absolutely because I just, yeah, I love a lesson,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not charging a six year old rent. I

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Speaker 2: This is a it's not a strange one, but it's

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Speaker 2: one that I can kind of resonate a little bit

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Speaker 2: with because there's a couple of times on flights where

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Speaker 2: Roman has been pretty excited and won't calm down. So

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Speaker 2: this couple, albeit it's a different situation. This this couple

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Speaker 2: have a a kid who's on the spectrum and was

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Speaker 2: kicking the seat in front, so you know, it's like

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Speaker 2: they're out of control on these flights and there's not

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Speaker 2: enough space.

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Speaker 1: Even I'm like stat like he's like, no, you cannot

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Speaker 1: grab a person's station.

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Speaker 2: A couple of people around them had asked to be

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Speaker 2: moved seats and become really annoyed by the situation where

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Speaker 2: this kid anyway, the airline, the crew on the airline

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Speaker 2: gave them little napkins with notes to a family saying,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate how good a parent you are and we

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Speaker 4: I could cry you.

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Speaker 2: You guys as a family are more than welcome back

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Speaker 4: However, these people aren't so much.

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Speaker 1: I literally want to cry. That makes me emotional. That's

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Speaker 2: So I understand where these people are coming from, and

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Speaker 2: I can you've been on the receiving side as well.

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Speaker 1: See, that's not my I I've always had empathy for

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Speaker 4: I have empathy, yeah, but it's also not ideal.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but there's a way of handling, Well, these people

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Speaker 2: We don't want to put up with this. I would

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Speaker 2: never do that, No, I would never do that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I love that so much. And I think it's one

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Speaker 1: So that's where it bothers me, because it's like, at

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Speaker 3: How can I help? You know?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a parent, you see it definitely like

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Speaker 4: The pressure.

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Speaker 1: I mean when we flew back to Nashville from Detroit,

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Speaker 3: Portugal?

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Speaker 1: I mean Roman was like a crazy person, I mean,

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Speaker 3: But I mean Roman was like biting the.

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Speaker 1: mean again, like maybe those are people that don't have

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Speaker 4: Parents are just telling them.

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Speaker 3: I could never imagine moving.

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Speaker 4: Some things. You just get people not cane.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think people are very specific and I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: We've had people that won't move because they want a

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Speaker 3: I'll switch.

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Speaker 2: That's the type of scenario what I would lose my temper.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean like if you've got Roman right,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get a guy in front of us and

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Speaker 2: Romans kicking a seat and just trying at least trying

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Speaker 2: to restrain them. When you're explained to the people in

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Speaker 4: I apologize. If this guy turns over, turns around the seat.

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Speaker 2: And says, can you control your baby, I'll get your

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Speaker 2: baby to shut up, Verny, that's it red messed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you're trying, you know, so sad okay,

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Speaker 1: I always whenever I see moms too buying, I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: you're doing a great job, so on that we will

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Speaker 1: see you next week for another and see what's happening

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