WEBVTT - The Limerick Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hello, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. I'm Holly Frying and I'm Tracy view Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just got back from Ireland. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>you had a great time. I did. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a very spoiled person for having gotten to go on

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<v Speaker 1>that trip. And we went all over the place while

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<v Speaker 1>we were there, but we ended up, through just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of some logistics, spending a really lovely afternoon in Limerick

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<v Speaker 1>while we were waiting on some friends to meet up

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<v Speaker 1>with us to move on to our next destination. And

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<v Speaker 1>while we were at a pub there, we met this

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<v Speaker 1>really lovely couple who were kind enough to chat with

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<v Speaker 1>us for a bit, and during our conversation, our new

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<v Speaker 1>friend Maria mentioned a historical event that took place in

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<v Speaker 1>Limerick that was utterly fascinating to me. She started out

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<v Speaker 1>by mentioning that in the nineteen teens the city had

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<v Speaker 1>very briefly printed its own currency, and of course I

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<v Speaker 1>was a metately intrigued um and she kind of gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a quick rundown of it. But of course, like

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<v Speaker 1>in a pub conversation of fifteen minutes where there's much

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<v Speaker 1>laughing and talking about other things. You don't get all

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff. So I ended up looking into it

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<v Speaker 1>and it unveiled itself to be a pretty fascinating moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably also on her mind because they just

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<v Speaker 1>did like a hundred years thing in April, like a

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<v Speaker 1>festival around it. We'll talk about that at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is. It's really fascinating. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that people in Limerick all knew about,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had not heard of it. So it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a good thing to kind of maybe share with

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<v Speaker 1>the world outside of Ireland because it's a really fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>piece of Irish history. And uh so this episode isn't

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to Maria by any chance she's listening. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for both a lovely conversation and a great idea. And

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<v Speaker 1>also I just want to thank all of Ireland for

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<v Speaker 1>being incredibly friendly and welcoming. I had nothing but great

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<v Speaker 1>interactions and experiences with literally every single person we met,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh it was really quite delightful. So we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking today about this event, which was called the Limerick

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet and it has a number of moving parts in

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<v Speaker 1>some overlap in terms of different movements that get a

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<v Speaker 1>little tangled up in it that even to this day

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<v Speaker 1>get debated over over how much one or the other

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<v Speaker 1>was an influence. Um But in April and in March

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen as a Saturday Classic, we had an episode on

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<v Speaker 1>the Easter Rising of nineteen sixteen, and that episode will

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little bit of additional context for the

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<v Speaker 1>events that we're going to talk about today, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of the things that were happening leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to what happened here. It's not a necessary listen

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<v Speaker 1>before this one, but it just offers a little snapshot

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<v Speaker 1>of what was playing out in Ireland politically right before

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<v Speaker 1>the Limericks Soviet happened. So check it out if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get a little more of an in depth

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<v Speaker 1>approach to this one. To talk about the events that

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<v Speaker 1>led to the Limericks Soviet, it'll help to first talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Robert Byrne, who went by Bobby Burne, was born

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<v Speaker 1>on November eighty nine in Dublin. His father died when

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<v Speaker 1>he was still a boy, and his mother moved herself

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<v Speaker 1>and her son to Limerick, and that was where she

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<v Speaker 1>was originally from. Bobby joined the Civil Service in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o seven at the age of eighteen to work in

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<v Speaker 1>the Limerick General Post Office and after working at the Kinsale,

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<v Speaker 1>County Cork Post Office as a sorter and then in Bandon,

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<v Speaker 1>also County Cork, he returned to the g p O

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<v Speaker 1>in Limerick in October of nineteen eleven. When he was

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<v Speaker 1>posted in Limerick, he started working as a telegraph operator

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<v Speaker 1>and it was in that position that he started sharing

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<v Speaker 1>information he gathered on the job with intelligence officers of

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<v Speaker 1>the Irish Volunteers that was the precursor to the Irish

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Army, who wanted Ireland to be free of British rule.

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<v Speaker 1>The Volunteers formed as a paramilitary group that was intended

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<v Speaker 1>to destabilize the power of the British government in Ireland. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a super quick version. Yeah, And if you

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<v Speaker 1>are ever looking at documents that outline kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>this happened, sometimes it's real fluid when they start calling, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Volunteers the Irish Republican Army even though they hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually formed in that under that name yet. Um So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking in those don't quite match up. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on there. But Over the next several years,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby became more and more involved with the Irish Volunteer movement,

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<v Speaker 1>so much so that the Royal Irish Constabulary you often

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<v Speaker 1>see that abbreviated as r I C, became interested in

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<v Speaker 1>his activities. In nineteen seventeen, he was placed on a

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<v Speaker 1>list of Post office employees that the police believed were

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<v Speaker 1>disloyal to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>Byrne was kept under surveillance by the authorities, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall of nineteen eighteen Post office management met with

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<v Speaker 1>him to discuss a number of allegations of seditious activities

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<v Speaker 1>that were on record in the years since nineteen sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He denied all these charges, but was fired from his position. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they suddenly unfurled a list of things, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>not things he did at the post office in his job.

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<v Speaker 1>They were things that, uh, he had been spied on

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<v Speaker 1>and recorded as doing in his his normal life. And

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to his association with the Republican militia, Burne

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<v Speaker 1>was also a very active member of the Trades Council.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a trade unionist and he was vocal in

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<v Speaker 1>Ireland's labor movement. His work organizing his fellow post office

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<v Speaker 1>workers in a union was undoubtedly also a factor in

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<v Speaker 1>his dismissal. On January thirteenth, nineteen nineteen, burn was at

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<v Speaker 1>home in his mother's house when the home was raided

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<v Speaker 1>by the r i C. Police searched the premises, They

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<v Speaker 1>found a firearm and ammunition, and Bobby was arrested. He

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<v Speaker 1>made no answer to these charges because he thought the

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<v Speaker 1>authorities involved were part of an occupation of Ireland and

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<v Speaker 1>that he wouldn't be given a fair judgment. Bobby Burne

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<v Speaker 1>was kept in custody without sentencing, and while in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>he campaigned to be given political prisoner status. On February fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>after several weeks in custody, burn was finally sentenced to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve months hard labor. Burn led a rebellion in the

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<v Speaker 1>prison the day after his sentence was handed down. He

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen other prisoners, all of whom they believed that

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<v Speaker 1>they should be held as political prisoners rather than as

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<v Speaker 1>criminal convicts, barricaded their cells and they smashed the furniture within,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sang Republican songs loudly enough to draw a

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<v Speaker 1>crown in the street outside. It took several hours for

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<v Speaker 1>the police to settle things down, and as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of the protests, the men involved were punished with strict measures.

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<v Speaker 1>They were shackled to their beds, some had their boots

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<v Speaker 1>taken away, and visitors were no longer allowed to bring

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<v Speaker 1>them food or clothing. Some were put in solitary confinement,

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<v Speaker 1>and they went on a hunger strike in protest. As

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<v Speaker 1>news of what was going on in the prison circulated,

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<v Speaker 1>it catalyzed a number of discussions among Limericks leaders. The

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<v Speaker 1>city Council meant and discussed the treatment of the prisoners.

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<v Speaker 1>The incarcerated men had told visitors that they had no

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<v Speaker 1>issue with the mayor or the prison guards, but that

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be categorized as political prisoners, and that fact,

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<v Speaker 1>plus pamphlets that were circulating about the men's poor treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>including being four fed, gained support for them. There was

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<v Speaker 1>also a meeting of the Irish Post Office Clerks Association

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss secret reporting on staff. Burne had, as you recall,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben fired based entirely on accusations that he had denied,

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<v Speaker 1>with no formal process for him to defend himself, and

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<v Speaker 1>a resolution was written up and sent to Lloyd George

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<v Speaker 1>UK's Prime Minister at the time, as well as leaders

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<v Speaker 1>of the Postal Service calling for Bobby burn to be

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<v Speaker 1>reinstated in his position. They also called for an end

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<v Speaker 1>to this idea of secret reporting. Burne eventually became so

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<v Speaker 1>ill that he was moved to the Limerick Union Workhouse

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<v Speaker 1>Hospital and kept under armed guard. This move was performed

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<v Speaker 1>under the Criminal Administration Act of nineteen fourteen, meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>though he was no longer in a PRISM facility, he

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<v Speaker 1>was still in legal custody. The hospital didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>take him though, they were concerned that if he died

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<v Speaker 1>in their facility, they would be held responsible instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the police. Ultimately, they had no legal power to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>this move. As the hospital administration was fretting over having

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<v Speaker 1>Burned in their care, plans were being made to break

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<v Speaker 1>him out at a club on Gerald Griffin Street. Petter Dunne,

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<v Speaker 1>commandant of the IRIS Limerick Battalion, brought together battalion officers

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<v Speaker 1>from the organization to put together a rescue for burn

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<v Speaker 1>and that was scheduled for April six. The guards stationed

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital would be tied up, they would grab

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby burn and then they would take him to a

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<v Speaker 1>safe house. No battalion officers were to participate in this mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting at about two pm on April six, the volunteers,

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<v Speaker 1>led by Michael Stack, started arriving at the hospital in

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<v Speaker 1>small groups. They pretended that they were visiting various patients.

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<v Speaker 1>Several dozen assembled and some were out on the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>grounds and others on the ward where burns being held.

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<v Speaker 1>A funeral carriage was waiting for Burn and his liberators

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital's morgue doors around the back. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was to be their getaway car. And we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how this rescue effort play it out in just

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, but first we are going to pause for

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<v Speaker 1>a little sponsor break. It is not entirely clear how

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Burn was notified of what was happening. Different members

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<v Speaker 1>of the volunteer team that went to rescue him gave

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<v Speaker 1>different accounts, but the plan was that there would be

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<v Speaker 1>a signal whistle blown after a number of the group

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<v Speaker 1>had made their way to the areas near Burn's bed,

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<v Speaker 1>again all pretending that they were checking in on other patients,

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<v Speaker 1>and once that whistle blew, the plan would jump into action.

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<v Speaker 1>Stack and his men had planned and prepared, but even

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<v Speaker 1>so when he blew the whistle, the hospital just really

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<v Speaker 1>erupted into a pandemonium. For one thing, they were bystanders

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<v Speaker 1>who were actual visitors to the patients in the ward,

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<v Speaker 1>and they all started running when they heard this whistle.

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<v Speaker 1>For another thing, the guards on either side of Burn's

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<v Speaker 1>bed were armed and they had their weapons drawn. Stack

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<v Speaker 1>later said that one of the constables, named Spileane, turned

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<v Speaker 1>and shot Burned as he lay in bed, and that

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<v Speaker 1>Stack fired at Spillane in response. Stack also fatally shot

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<v Speaker 1>another constable, Martin O'Brien, as the policeman drew his weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>While the volunteers were carrying Burn out of the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>a prison warden named John Mahoney, who was also assigned

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<v Speaker 1>to the hospital, told that story differently. He said that

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<v Speaker 1>while the constables did have their guns drawn, neither of

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<v Speaker 1>them fired, and in his version, the two policemen grappled

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<v Speaker 1>with the crowd that rushed at them as Burn got

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<v Speaker 1>out of bed. Mahoney was trampled and he lost consciousness,

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<v Speaker 1>So his account kind of drops off there. He came

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<v Speaker 1>too long enough to once again make a lunge and

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<v Speaker 1>try to capture Burn. He had not left the hospital yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but He then received a blow to the head that

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<v Speaker 1>left him dazed, and by the time he regained his

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<v Speaker 1>senses from that, Burn was gone. Burns supporters were able

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<v Speaker 1>to get him out of the prison, but the funeral

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<v Speaker 1>carriage was gone. Instead, they commandeered a small carriage being

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<v Speaker 1>driven by a local name John Ryan, who took burn

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<v Speaker 1>and his rescuers to his homing County Claire. Burnett died

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<v Speaker 1>from the gunshot that night. The bullet that killed him

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<v Speaker 1>may have actually been from one of his rescuers guns.

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<v Speaker 1>The story about that has shifted over the years, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the time it was believed that he was shot

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<v Speaker 1>and killed by police, so the public was outraged. On

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<v Speaker 1>April ninth, three days after Burns death, the protests in

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<v Speaker 1>the city led to the declaration of martial law in Limerick.

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<v Speaker 1>The city was barricaded with checkpoints that required a special

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<v Speaker 1>permit from the military to pass through, and to get

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<v Speaker 1>a permit, each person had to report to a military

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<v Speaker 1>office at seventy eight O'Connell Street and have their address, job,

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<v Speaker 1>and personal appearance recorded. The whole city was cordened, excluding

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<v Speaker 1>the area north of the River Shannon, and that created

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<v Speaker 1>a unique problem. Many of the city's laborers worked in

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<v Speaker 1>the Thombing Gate area north of the river, and two

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<v Speaker 1>major factories, which were Walker's Distillery in the Cleves Dairy

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<v Speaker 1>were also north of this barricade. That meant more than

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<v Speaker 1>five five thousand workers from both sides of the river.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have to get military issued passes just

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<v Speaker 1>to get to their jobs, and in some cases they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to have to pass through checkpoints like four

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<v Speaker 1>times a day. The day after the declaration of martial law,

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<v Speaker 1>on April tenth, Robert Burne was late to rest and

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<v Speaker 1>his funeral took place at St. John's Cathedral and he

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<v Speaker 1>was buried in Mount St Lawrence Cemetery. The entire city

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<v Speaker 1>shut down and thousands of people came out into the

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<v Speaker 1>streets to pay their respects to burn. The Limerick Trades

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<v Speaker 1>and Labor Council, led by President John Cronin and with

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<v Speaker 1>delegates from the city's trade unions, met on Sunday, April

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss the problem. This meeting went on for twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hours and the end result was a plan for a strike.

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<v Speaker 1>The strike Committee issued the following statement quote The Workers

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<v Speaker 1>of Limerick assembled in Council hereby declare cessation of all

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<v Speaker 1>work from five am on Monday, April fourteenth, nineteen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>as a protest against the decision of the British government

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<v Speaker 1>and compelling them to procure permits in order to earn

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<v Speaker 1>their daily bread by order of the Strike Committee Mechanics Institute.

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<v Speaker 1>An estimated fifteen thousand workers participated in this strike. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes also see that number listed as fourteen thousand or

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in between, and at this point the population of

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<v Speaker 1>Limerick was around thirty eight thousands, so that was a

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<v Speaker 1>very significant number. Essentially, the entire city went on strike.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the pubs closed down and initially some work, for

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<v Speaker 1>example in dairy and bacon factories was allowed to continue,

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<v Speaker 1>but only for the first day of the strike, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was so that the existing supplies there didn't simply

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<v Speaker 1>spoil and go to waste or I would presume, stink

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<v Speaker 1>up the entire town. The Trade Council's strike plan was

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<v Speaker 1>detailed and carefully thought out. Committees were established to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>that Limerick had some kind of infrastructure during the strike

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<v Speaker 1>and isolation. Within the barricades. There were people managing food

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<v Speaker 1>distribution and other daily needs. Food depots were set up

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<v Speaker 1>with fixed price groceries. Profiteering during the was strictly outlawed,

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<v Speaker 1>and to ensure that no one tried to jack up

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<v Speaker 1>prices to take advantage of this situation, agreed upon prices

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<v Speaker 1>for all goods were posted on flyers around the town

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<v Speaker 1>so that the population was kept informed about what they

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<v Speaker 1>should be paying for any given uh staple item of groceries.

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<v Speaker 1>And additionally, the council, which convened every morning, made allowances

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<v Speaker 1>for people to work in bakeries and for stores to

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<v Speaker 1>open for limited afternoon hours to sell necessities, all in

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<v Speaker 1>the interest of keeping the city going without regular supplies

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. They also made deals with local farmers to

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<v Speaker 1>provide produce directly to the city and circumvent the usual

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<v Speaker 1>distribution channels. Volunteers did smuggling some supplies from the countryside,

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<v Speaker 1>and in some cases they faked funeral processions with food

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<v Speaker 1>and other supplies being carried in the coffins instead of bodies,

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<v Speaker 1>but these weren't regular or dependable and the Trades Council

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<v Speaker 1>was not involved in them. A police force was set

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<v Speaker 1>up by the Trades Council, as well as a finances subcommittee,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was decided in the second week of the

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<v Speaker 1>strike that Limerick would print its own money, so, under

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership of Trade Council Treasurer James Casey, currency was

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<v Speaker 1>printed in one, five and ten shilling denominations and Casey

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<v Speaker 1>signed each note. The Trade Union Congress had sent their

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<v Speaker 1>treasurer who said that the TUC backed the Limerick currency,

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<v Speaker 1>so basically they were gonna make good on payments on

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<v Speaker 1>all of these notes, and this way strikers could be

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<v Speaker 1>issued currency, and shopkeepers of businesses approved to open agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to accept that currency. Businesses that were permitted to open

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<v Speaker 1>did so with signage that stated that they were operating

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<v Speaker 1>under the approval of the Strike Committee. Vehicles were not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to drive on the roads without a permit from

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<v Speaker 1>the council. There was also a regular daily paper that

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<v Speaker 1>was run to keep everyone informed about the strike and

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Council's doings, which was called the Workers Bulletin.

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<v Speaker 1>And coming up, we're going to talk about how this

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<v Speaker 1>strike became international news. But before that, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a little break and hear from one of the

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<v Speaker 1>sponsors that keep stuff you missed in history class going.

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<v Speaker 1>The Limerick Soviet, as it came to be known in

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<v Speaker 1>the press, gained international following when press arrived in the

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<v Speaker 1>area to cover a transatlantic flight, because Limerick had been

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<v Speaker 1>planned as a fueling stop for pilot J. C. P.

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<v Speaker 1>Wood as he made this journey, but Wood had ditched

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<v Speaker 1>his plate in the ocean off the Welsh coast, so

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<v Speaker 1>the journalists that had assembled in Limerick essentially had no story.

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<v Speaker 1>So they turned instead to covering the strike, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was something of a feel good story. This strike was

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<v Speaker 1>nonviolent and it had been carefully thought out, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty easy to write about it in a supportive light.

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<v Speaker 1>One journalist from the United States named Ruth Russell had

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<v Speaker 1>been touring Ireland and writing about its political situation when

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<v Speaker 1>she arrived in Limerick in n twenties. She published a

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<v Speaker 1>book about Ireland, and she recounted me with the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the strike committee, John Cronan, to get his explanation

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<v Speaker 1>of what the strike was about. Per his talk with Russell,

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<v Speaker 1>Cronan either felt that they were on track for a

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<v Speaker 1>long term governance by the workers, or he was making

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<v Speaker 1>it sound that way for the international press. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>a portion of Ruth Russell's account, starting with a quote

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<v Speaker 1>from Cronin he says, quote why did we form it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we pit people's rule against military rule. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as workers we are against all military but our particular

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<v Speaker 1>grievance against the British military is this. When the town

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<v Speaker 1>was unjustly proclaimed, the cordon was drawn to leave out

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<v Speaker 1>a factory part of town that lies beyond the bridges.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to ask the soldiers for permits to earn

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<v Speaker 1>our daily bread. You have seen how we have thrown

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<v Speaker 1>the crank into production, but some activities are permitted to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Bakers are working under our orders. The kept press is killed,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have substituted our own paper. He held up

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<v Speaker 1>a small sheet which said, in large letters the workers

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<v Speaker 1>Bulletin issued by a Limerick proletariat quote. We have distributed

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<v Speaker 1>food and slashed prices. The farmers send us their produce.

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<v Speaker 1>The Food Committee has been able to cut down prices. Eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, are down from a dollar to sixty six

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<v Speaker 1>cents a dozen, and milk from fourteen to six cents

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<v Speaker 1>a court. In a few days we will engrave our

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<v Speaker 1>own money. Beside, there will be an influx of money

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<v Speaker 1>from England. About half the workers are affiliated to English

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<v Speaker 1>unions and entitled to strike pay. We have by the

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<v Speaker 1>way felt the sympathy of the union men in the

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<v Speaker 1>army sent to guard us. A whole Scotch regiment had

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<v Speaker 1>to be sent home because it was letting workers go

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth without passes. And we have told no

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<v Speaker 1>one else the National Executive Council of the Irish Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Party and Trade Union Congress will change its headquarters from

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<v Speaker 1>Dublin to Limerick. Then if military rule is an abrogated,

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<v Speaker 1>a general strike of the entire country will be called.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the Workers bulletin also about to strike at

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<v Speaker 1>a positive light, and commented as issues like food depots

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<v Speaker 1>and currency were worked out that the strike would quote

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<v Speaker 1>show the world what Irish workers are capable of doing

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<v Speaker 1>when left on their own resources. We should mention also

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<v Speaker 1>that the Soviet as it was being called, was not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly tied to the Russian Revolution, though that name was

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<v Speaker 1>borrowed again by the press from the events that had

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<v Speaker 1>been playing out in Russia as Zarist rule was overthrown.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of a Soviet as a council formed from

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<v Speaker 1>workers was being applied to the Limerick strike and its

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<v Speaker 1>governance by the Trade Council, and as labor strikes had

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<v Speaker 1>also been a significant part of the Russian Revolution. The

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<v Speaker 1>name really stuck after journalists used it. Thomas Johnson, who

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<v Speaker 1>was the leader of Ireland's Labor Party, rolled into town

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to represent the trade organizations and negotiate a solution,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had to get a permit from the military

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<v Speaker 1>authorities to pass through the barricade to do so. When

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<v Speaker 1>the local trade council told him they wanted a national

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<v Speaker 1>strike for workers rights, Johnson explained that to formally mount

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<v Speaker 1>such a strike, a national convention would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>held to decide side, and while there was support in

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<v Speaker 1>other municipalities, that support was not universal. Though most unions

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<v Speaker 1>agreed that the situation in Limerick was untenable and unfair

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<v Speaker 1>to laborers and that they had every reason to strike

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<v Speaker 1>and even you know, every valid reason to call for

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<v Speaker 1>a national effort, there was also some very real concern

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<v Speaker 1>that the strike was harming the laborers and barely even

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<v Speaker 1>in convenience the British military that had put the barricade

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<v Speaker 1>in place. Additionally, there was a real concern that a

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<v Speaker 1>national strike would lead to violence. To make things even trickier,

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<v Speaker 1>shin Fayn didn't offer support for the strike and for

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviet the Labor Party was acting on its own

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<v Speaker 1>and that wasn't something they were interested in. Up to

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<v Speaker 1>that point, the leaders of the Labor Party and trade

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<v Speaker 1>unions were working to develop relationships with the leadership of

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<v Speaker 1>sin Fayn and they were hoping for the party's support

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<v Speaker 1>in the strike, but shin Fayton wanted to lead campaigns

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<v Speaker 1>and for labor to mobilize to support them. They were

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<v Speaker 1>much less enthusiastic at the thought of workers actually having control,

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<v Speaker 1>and since there was also a lot of overlap of

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<v Speaker 1>the nationalist volunteers, which as I said, would eventually evolve

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<v Speaker 1>into the Irish Republican Army and labor rights advocates of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, there was also some murkiness about motivations and

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<v Speaker 1>leadership related to the strike. The history of shin Fayn

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<v Speaker 1>and the i ra A as its paramilitary arm is

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<v Speaker 1>long and complicated and controversial, with internal disagreements and splits.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like once you start looking at it, if you

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<v Speaker 1>diagram it out, I mean, it becomes a tree pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>because different factions will separate off because of disagreements, and

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<v Speaker 1>then within that faction they will separate into two or

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<v Speaker 1>more branches, and it continues like that, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the Limerick Soviet the volunteers and chin Fain

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<v Speaker 1>were closely aligned. And as a reminder, Bobby Byrne, whose

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<v Speaker 1>death had been the catalyst for this whole event, had

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<v Speaker 1>been a member of shin Fain and a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Limerick Trades and Labor Council, and it had been

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<v Speaker 1>a group of volunteers. You'll often see it set as

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<v Speaker 1>an IRA mission that land his escape from the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>The strike committee itself sought to distance their efforts from

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<v Speaker 1>shin Fain and use the Workers Bulletin to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday April, the bulletin random blurb that said quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the English press is doing its level best to dub

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<v Speaker 1>the striker shin Fain one and hopes that the English

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<v Speaker 1>working class will be fooled. This strike is a workers strike,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's no more shin Fain than any other strike

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<v Speaker 1>against tyranny and inhuman oppression. And Tommy the British soldier

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<v Speaker 1>is not our real enemy, and we wish him to

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<v Speaker 1>understand he is merely a tool of his imperialistic capitalistic government.

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<v Speaker 1>In the midst of discussions with the National Executive of

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<v Speaker 1>the Irish Labor Party, Trade Union Congress. An entirely new

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<v Speaker 1>idea was floated as an alternative to pursuing a national

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<v Speaker 1>strike to the Labor Party really really did not want

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really just increasingly apparent that they were

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<v Speaker 1>not going to let that happen, and this plan was

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<v Speaker 1>to completely evacuate the city of Limerick. The idea was

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<v Speaker 1>that in leaving the city an empty show, it would

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<v Speaker 1>make a strong statement visually, and it would also send

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<v Speaker 1>a message that the people of Limerick would rather leave

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<v Speaker 1>their homes than live under British martial law. And though

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<v Speaker 1>this was a bold idea, it was also fairly nutty.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not fly for a number of reasons, including

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<v Speaker 1>the immense logistical load of finding places to relocate an

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<v Speaker 1>entire city's population, even temporarily. Meanwhile, British trade unions were

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<v Speaker 1>working actively against the strike. Some of these unions managed

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<v Speaker 1>workers in Ireland and were able to exert their influence

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<v Speaker 1>to urge anyone in their unions to forego participation. There

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<v Speaker 1>was support for Limericks labor strike throughout Ireland and many

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<v Speaker 1>people donated money to the cause, but there was just

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<v Speaker 1>no way for these funds to reach the striking workers. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fairly apparent that even though the Strike Committee

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<v Speaker 1>was doing pretty well and running things, that the situation

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<v Speaker 1>could not last forever. Limerick just didn't have the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to operate independently for very long yeah independently

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<v Speaker 1>by lining barricades. It was just not gonna work. With

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<v Speaker 1>no national strike forthcoming and resources being stretched pretty thin.

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<v Speaker 1>A meeting took place with multiple local leaders as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the strike Committee in attendance, where Stephen O'Meara, who

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<v Speaker 1>was Limericks Mayor, Dennis haleinan Catholic Bishop of Limerick, and

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<v Speaker 1>General Griffin, commanding officer of the Limerick Garrison. And after

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<v Speaker 1>these negotiations, an agreement was reached that if the Strike

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<v Speaker 1>Committee called an end to the strike, and then if

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<v Speaker 1>there was no trouble in the days that followed, the

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<v Speaker 1>law often see it listed as a week, the barricades

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<v Speaker 1>and the checkpoint set up would also end. So on

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<v Speaker 1>April the strike ended and a week later Limerick residents

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<v Speaker 1>needed no permits to move in and out of their city.

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<v Speaker 1>While the strike ended without a loss of life and

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<v Speaker 1>the workers and Strike Committee could consider it a win,

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<v Speaker 1>there are also plenty of people who see it as

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<v Speaker 1>a loss. In the last hundred years, there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>great deal of theorizing about what might have been if

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee had continued to develop a worker led government

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<v Speaker 1>in stead of compromising with the British authorities. On May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine of two thousand nine, the Robert Byrne Memorial

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<v Speaker 1>Park was opened. In a documentary about the Limericks Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>was made, and just a couple of months ago, as

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<v Speaker 1>I referenced at the top of this episode, the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Limerick marked the one hundred year anniversary of the

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<v Speaker 1>strike with a huge series of events titled Limericks Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred a Festival of Art and Activism. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a listener mail to take us out? I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and just by magical coincidence, it is also about Ireland. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It is from our listener Laurie, who sent us a

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<v Speaker 1>lovely care package because she has also been traveling. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>greeting Stracy and Holley. I've been meaning to write you

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<v Speaker 1>for over a year now, but life seemed to get

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<v Speaker 1>in the way too often. I know that feeling, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been a listener for many years and finally

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<v Speaker 1>have a connection to a podcast to write you. I

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<v Speaker 1>visited Ireland in March with my best friend of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years to celebrate turning forty that year. Imagine my delight

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<v Speaker 1>when your classic epio so before I left, was on

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<v Speaker 1>the Easter Rising in Dublin. While visiting Dublin, I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to visit many of the sites associated with the

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<v Speaker 1>War for Irish Independence. St. Stephen's Green, the General post Office,

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<v Speaker 1>and Killing Him Jail. While at the Little Museum of Dublin,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a copy of the nineteen sixteen Proclamation for

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<v Speaker 1>Independence up on the wall, and I picked up a

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<v Speaker 1>postcard copy of it for you. Uh. And then she

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<v Speaker 1>talks about kind of the history of Dublin that they

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<v Speaker 1>learned about while they were here, and she sent us

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<v Speaker 1>some great stuff. UH. Some of which she talks about

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<v Speaker 1>was Vikings being in uh Dublin before. Uh. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the history we have talked about related to Irish history. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>As she said, there's a postcard with this uh fabulous

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<v Speaker 1>proclamation on it, as well as a beautiful postcard a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of other beautiful postcards as she sent. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was super duper fun to get this. It was actually

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on my desk when I got back from Ireland

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<v Speaker 1>and it felt like magically Ireland had arranged it, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was not the case. So thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Lorie Um for all of these delightful treats

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<v Speaker 1>and are kind of making it feel like my trip

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<v Speaker 1>lasted longer than it actually did. If you would like

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