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Speaker 6: It is Tuesday, August twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 6: episode number twenty two. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 6: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage
Speaker 6: Studios at the start. We got the full crew back
Speaker 6: in today and it's a great day to have everybody
Speaker 6: back at studio because today is cut down day. We're
Speaker 6: going to be breaking that down for you guys. I
Speaker 6: got my analysts here. They're going to tell you their
Speaker 6: best thoughts on what we think will happen here when
Speaker 6: the Cowboys have to make their final cuts to get
Speaker 6: down to the final fifty three man roster. Before we
Speaker 6: do that, though, Cowboys make a move last week since
Speaker 6: the last time we had a show. They acquire quarterback
Speaker 6: Trey Lance for a fourth round pick. Let's start first
Speaker 6: with what do you guys think was the strategy behind this?
Speaker 6: Because I think that's where most of the conversation on
Speaker 6: this move has been. What do you think was the
Speaker 6: Cowboys strategy in going out of spending a fourth round
Speaker 6: pick to pick up a guy like Trey Lance.
Speaker 4: I think they're playing the long game.
Speaker 5: Obviously, when you look at Trey Lance, you have to
Speaker 5: look at where he is right now versus what the
Speaker 5: scope of what he might do coming in, Because if
Speaker 5: you look at it right now, that's more realistic to
Speaker 5: what the Cowboys plan is going to be. They're trying
Speaker 5: to develop him as a backup quarterback at worst case.
Speaker 5: So worst case he's going to be your definitive backup
Speaker 5: in the post Cooper Rush era, which could be as
Speaker 5: early as twenty twenty four if Trey Lance develops quickly.
Speaker 5: But I'm of the mindset and I'm of the understanding
Speaker 5: and having these conversations. I know Brian has had him
Speaker 5: as well. This move is in no way to leverage
Speaker 5: against Dak Prescott that this is not that move. This
Speaker 5: is something the Cowboys are looking at and saying, hey,
Speaker 5: we're not going to pick up this guy's fifth year option.
Speaker 5: So it's a two year plan, try to develop him.
Speaker 5: If he turns into a definitive QB two, wonderful. You
Speaker 5: gave up a fourth round pick for a definitive, definitive
Speaker 5: developmental QB two. You've been trying to draft a development
Speaker 5: guy for the past couple of years and you've not
Speaker 5: done it. Best case is he develops well enough in
Speaker 5: that you can maybe trade him in two years and
Speaker 5: maybe you lose that fourth up front, but maybe you
Speaker 5: get a third rounder if he can prove he can
Speaker 5: be a capable NFL starter. So they played the long
Speaker 5: game with Trey Lance, and the only problem I have
Speaker 5: with it was just the compensation itself. The fourth rounder
Speaker 5: was right there up against my herd line, which was
Speaker 5: a fifth round pick. If you go back and listen
Speaker 5: to what John Lynch said, what Shanahan said, they were
Speaker 5: actually pleasantly surprised to get a fourth. But I know
Speaker 5: the Cowboys are in a situation where they really wanted Trey,
Speaker 5: and a couple of other teams came into the conversation.
Speaker 5: Maybe those other teams through Fiths on the table, Jerry
Speaker 5: Steven and will and say hey, let's just get it done.
Speaker 4: Put a fourth on the table and here he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked for a general manager. They gave up
Speaker 2: an extra one for Joey Gallaway when he really didn't
Speaker 2: have to, just he wanted the player that badly. And
Speaker 2: I think it goes back to how they saw Trey
Speaker 2: Lance grade wise. You know, when you look at where
Speaker 2: he's out on their board top of the second round,
Speaker 2: you know that's The Cowboys have a history of not
Speaker 2: tanking seasons to get high draft picks. And the way
Speaker 2: to get your quarterback, maybe it's a franchise or a
Speaker 2: future quarterback for a lot of teams is be poor.
Speaker 2: You have a bad season and pick in the top five.
Speaker 2: Cowboys aren't going to do that. And they have a
Speaker 2: history of this. They have a history of not they
Speaker 2: we have a history of of you know, you go
Speaker 2: back to when Jerry got the team and the Steve Walsh,
Speaker 2: the supplemental picks. You go back and you think about
Speaker 2: Quincy Carter, you go back when you start to think
Speaker 2: about working out baseball players, you start to think about
Speaker 2: all those things. It's never been a situation where we're
Speaker 2: going to take the fourth overall pick and draft a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Had an opportunity a couple of years ago to take
Speaker 2: the tenth pick and maybe get Justin Fields. Didn't do that,
Speaker 2: so they're more willing to try and say, listen, we
Speaker 2: had this guy on our board to a certain spot,
Speaker 2: he's available. The fourth round pick is to me, I
Speaker 2: don't look at it as strongly as you do. And
Speaker 2: I love to draft. I love picks. I think it's
Speaker 2: something you can get back. You know, Dallas, last year,
Speaker 2: you guys had some great audio and video of Jerry
Speaker 2: Jones talking about Kansas City moving back five spots and
Speaker 2: picking up at three. That's how things work. Don't worry
Speaker 2: about that. You know. Where they need to What they
Speaker 2: need to work on now is getting the player in
Speaker 2: and getting him acclimated, and I mean acclimated when you
Speaker 2: have twenty some odd coaches. Put these coaches to work.
Speaker 2: There needs be post practice where he's out there with
Speaker 2: scout team receivers, he's out there learning the offense. He
Speaker 2: needs to have a practice after a practice is what
Speaker 2: he really really needs. And you know, I think it's
Speaker 2: more about at least gives you options. The thing with
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, you might let this thing ride. This is
Speaker 2: the one organization the general manager is not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: He's not. That's just the way it's built in for
Speaker 2: the organization. That's the way they operate, and that's just fine.
Speaker 2: Most teams have a general manager that has to have
Speaker 2: a quarterback or they get fired. So this team can
Speaker 2: play a game where Okay, we're willing to move on.
Speaker 2: We're not going to pay a quarterback fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2: We're not going to do that. In two years, they
Speaker 2: have those options. Maybe Trey Lance does develop enough to
Speaker 2: where you say, we can we can sign him for this,
Speaker 2: we can play him, and then we can build our
Speaker 2: team around that. I think that's the direction really that
Speaker 2: they're going with this addition.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when the Cowboys, when the news started coming out,
Speaker 8: it was one of those WTF moments, like what is
Speaker 8: going on? But it makes sense now after you sit
Speaker 8: and analyze the whole situation. It makes perfect sense. At
Speaker 8: the time though, it just felt like when speaking about
Speaker 8: a trade, the last thing on my mind would be
Speaker 8: to address the quarterback position. But if we remember getting
Speaker 8: into the draft this year. Earlier this year, Jerry Jones
Speaker 8: did come out and say they were going to draft
Speaker 8: the quarterback and it did not play out that way.
Speaker 8: They didn't, so, you know, quarterback was as part of
Speaker 8: their needs in wanting to develop a younger guy. This
Speaker 8: is not a proven guy, but I think it plays
Speaker 8: into kind of what they were looking for and what
Speaker 8: they've come out and said that they look for every
Speaker 8: year in the off season to keep developing these young guys.
Speaker 8: So makes perfect sense. Just very very crappy situation, which
Speaker 8: I'm sure we're going to talk about Will Greer, but
Speaker 8: the moment of when it happened and everything we experience
Speaker 8: for that.
Speaker 2: Game, I kind of feel like, though, this is just me,
Speaker 2: and maybe it's the hardened personnel guy in me. If
Speaker 2: Will gear would have played well for three weeks, maybe
Speaker 2: you don't think about no, this effect, you don't think
Speaker 2: about this, you know, and and yeah, it's terrible timing,
Speaker 2: But you're also in a situation where they talk about
Speaker 2: this and they're very proud of this. They talk about
Speaker 2: personal acquisition as a twenty four to seven job around here,
Speaker 2: you know, your job is to build your team, whether
Speaker 2: you know you feel like you got a third quarterback
Speaker 2: or you don't, or you have the opportunity to add
Speaker 2: a guy you had on your board in the second round.
Speaker 2: You know, these things present themselves throughout and we can
Speaker 2: cry for Argentina and all that stuff like that when
Speaker 2: it comes to Will Greer after a game. But me,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of my thought is I'm thinking, like, bro,
Speaker 2: if you'd have played well in three weeks, the three
Speaker 2: weeks you had an opportunity to play, maybe they don't
Speaker 2: make this decision, you know. And I'm all about team building.
Speaker 2: I'm all about trying to get better.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the personal side of the business I kind
Speaker 2: of pull myself back from. But I think he should
Speaker 2: have Dak calling the place for him.
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe that was that, Maybe that was the extra
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 2: I give Dak a lot of credit. And I was
Speaker 2: critical of this because in the in our pregame show,
Speaker 2: I was sitting there thinking, if I was a player
Speaker 2: that was fighting for my job, I would, you know,
Speaker 2: do you think enough of me to do everything in
Speaker 2: your power to help me maybe make this team?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: And I and I thought Dak called the place. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's unusual and all that. If one of the other
Speaker 2: assistants would have called plays, I kind of understand. But
Speaker 2: to me, you know, it's one of those things that
Speaker 2: was kind of strange. The way it went out, it
Speaker 2: worked out fine. Dak did a hell of a job,
Speaker 2: he really did. And you know, into Wilger's credit, he
Speaker 2: did a hell of a job too. He just needed
Speaker 2: to do a hell of a job against Jacksonville and
Speaker 2: Seattle and then also this Raider team. And maybe they're
Speaker 2: not thinking about this, maybe they're not thinking about Trey Lance.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, I think the thing about it is,
Speaker 6: even if let's say, Will may have played better earlier
Speaker 6: in the preseason, I still think this is a treat
Speaker 6: in intriguing opportunity for the Cowboys Tree Lance. I mean,
Speaker 6: they had a very high grade on this guy, as
Speaker 6: you mentioned, Amber, they went into the draft this year thinking, Hey,
Speaker 6: if we have an opportunity to pick up a quarterback,
Speaker 6: we'd want to do it. And so you knew that
Speaker 6: that was something they wanted to improve on. And the
Speaker 6: way I look at it is, I really don't think
Speaker 6: this is necessarily about Dak. This is about talent acquisition.
Speaker 6: But your old boss, Bill Parcells used to say it.
Speaker 6: We're in the talent acquisition bits, right, and at a
Speaker 6: position like quarterback, you can never have too many really
Speaker 6: good quarterbacks. Let's say he develops into a really great quarterback.
Speaker 6: That doesn't necessarily mean he'll be here. That doesn't necessarily
Speaker 6: mean that Dak will be gone. What that means is
Speaker 6: you may have two good quarterbacks and then you may say, Okay,
Speaker 6: which one do we think gives us the best chance
Speaker 6: to win now in the future, And whichever other one
Speaker 6: you got, maybe you decide we're going to keep Dak.
Speaker 6: We're gonna re up the deal. We're willing to pay
Speaker 6: him fifty million or whatever that number is. And guess what,
Speaker 6: NFL we're open for business. Who wants who wants Trey
Speaker 6: Lance on their team? After we've shown you in the
Speaker 6: preseason in a game or two, he can do some things.
Speaker 6: And we've got you intrigued. Now talking to all the
Speaker 6: other teams, and those other thirty one teams now come bidding.
Speaker 6: That's where this is an advantage for the Cowboys more
Speaker 6: so than anything you could have gotten from Will Greer.
Speaker 6: Like there are gonna be teams that are beating down
Speaker 6: your door for Will Grear. Now you start showing a
Speaker 6: former first round pick, number three overall pick that now
Speaker 6: is starting to show progress. You're gonna have a lot
Speaker 6: of teams who are very interested in possibly trading for him.
Speaker 6: That's the value of going out and getting Trey Lance
Speaker 6: for a fourth round pick and maybe turning that into
Speaker 6: a first round And that's a second round pick, whatever
Speaker 6: round pick you can get if you decide to part with.
Speaker 5: It's a Bill BELICHICKI in model right, And no, I'm
Speaker 5: not comparing Dak Prescott to Tom Brady. But if you're
Speaker 5: talking as far as the business model is concerned, was
Speaker 5: there in New England they went and got Jimmy G right,
Speaker 5: and they got Jimmy G and they let Jimmy G
Speaker 5: develop behind Tom Brady. Then eventually they flipped Jimmy G
Speaker 5: to San Francisco. So to your point, to my point earlier,
Speaker 5: this is what I feel like is the best case
Speaker 5: scenario for the Cowboys. And yes, of course they're gonna
Speaker 5: have options if Trey Lance develops, but he would have
Speaker 5: to develop in order to supplant Dek Prescott. He would
Speaker 5: have to develop at strides that would blow our minds
Speaker 5: between now and a possible contract extension. And I just
Speaker 5: don't see it because it's not Trey Lance versus Deck
Speaker 5: right now, it's Tree Lance versus Cooper Rush.
Speaker 2: But it gives you options. It gives you options. And
Speaker 2: like I said, there's going to be a team that's
Speaker 2: not going to pay a quarterback that is a top
Speaker 2: ten quarterback fifty eight million dollars. Good, there's not gonna
Speaker 2: be somebody's gonna somebody's gonna step up. They say it's
Speaker 2: more important that you know, why do all these teams
Speaker 2: have success or talk about the success that they have
Speaker 2: with a quarterback that's under a rookie contract, because that
Speaker 2: takes up the majority of your cap. So to me,
Speaker 2: I think it gives them options. I don't think this
Speaker 2: is I don't think this the plan here was, Hey,
Speaker 2: let's let's get Trey Lance and trade him. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's the plan. I think the plan here is
Speaker 2: to really figure out if Trey Lance could play. That
Speaker 2: I think is the plan.
Speaker 6: Right, that's the plan, But I think all options are
Speaker 6: open to them, right, So I don't think that I
Speaker 6: agree with you. I don't think their plan going in
Speaker 6: was we're going to get him to trade him. I
Speaker 6: do think their plan was we're going to get him
Speaker 6: to develop him, and then we will see what happens. Right,
Speaker 6: Maybe we decide to trade him. Maybe we decided to
Speaker 6: keep him right, Maybe he's our backup, maybe he's maybe
Speaker 6: there's some universe where he's good enough to be a starter.
Speaker 6: The point is they wanted to develop him because of
Speaker 6: where he was drafted in the Great They had him,
Speaker 6: no question. They figured they could get that out of him,
Speaker 6: no question, right, or at least wanted to give a try.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just gives you a lot more options to
Speaker 2: think about if, in fact, the quarterback numbers get crazy.
Speaker 2: You know, there might be a situation with the Cowboys
Speaker 2: that they let this contract with Dak Riot the next
Speaker 2: two years and see where they're at.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: The interesting part about it that theory of that route,
Speaker 6: if they decided to go that route, they would be
Speaker 6: then toward the end of Trey Lance's deal. Right, it
Speaker 6: means they don't get the benefit of that first year
Speaker 6: contract with him either, because if they've developed him right now,
Speaker 6: his agent's gonna say, hey, man, I want that same
Speaker 6: money all these other quarterbacks out there are getting.
Speaker 2: Right, it might be a situation where you're not where
Speaker 2: you're not paying fifty eight million dollars to a guy either.
Speaker 6: Maybe too, Yeah, maybe all right, we appreciate you guys
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Speaker 6: to preface this by saying, and I want to say
Speaker 6: this as much for us as I do for those
Speaker 6: out there listening. I know that we get into the
Speaker 6: habit of talking about NFL players as though they are commodities.
Speaker 6: But let's remember they are people, and so our conversation today,
Speaker 6: although we're going to be talking about guys losing their jobs,
Speaker 6: we're going to be respectful of them. And for those
Speaker 6: of you out there who will be talking about them
Speaker 6: on social media, remember these are people with families who
Speaker 6: will be For some of them, this will be the
Speaker 6: end of their football careers, and so we'll talk about
Speaker 6: it with respect. But at the same time, we will
Speaker 6: talk about who's going to make this team and who
Speaker 6: will not. We're going to go through each position, and
Speaker 6: what I want you guys to do is I want
Speaker 6: you to do two things. One, I want you to
Speaker 6: tell me how many people at this position you think
Speaker 6: they'll keep, and then give me the names of those
Speaker 6: that you think will stick around. I'll throw there some
Speaker 6: names out there for you to help you out and
Speaker 6: then we'll try to see if we can narrow this
Speaker 6: thing down. So let's talk about the quarterback position. I
Speaker 6: think this one should move pretty quickly. We all, I think, agree,
Speaker 6: three quarterbacks Dak Prescott, Cooper, Rush, Trey Lance. All agreed, agreed, agreed.
Speaker 6: Let's move on to the running back position. How many
Speaker 6: do you think they'll keep? And who do they keep?
Speaker 6: They got Tony Pollard, Rico'dodellduce, Fawn, Ronald Jones, Malik Davis,
Speaker 6: maybe even Hunter Lepke had a nice game in the
Speaker 6: final preseason game. If you want to keep a fullback,
Speaker 6: maybe he would be your guy. What do you think
Speaker 6: will happen at the running back position?
Speaker 5: I'm carrying three three. I'm going Pilard, Dowdle, and Deuce.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get Malik and Hunter lip Key back
Speaker 5: onto the practice squad.
Speaker 2: Agreed.
Speaker 8: Hmm, same retweet repost post.
Speaker 6: So in that exit in that you guys are completely
Speaker 6: moving away from Ronald Jones.
Speaker 4: Unfortunate.
Speaker 2: Well, he's on suspended list. So what I'm doing is
Speaker 2: I'm putting them on. Yeah, but he's I don't have
Speaker 2: to waive him or anything like that. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: put him on the suspended list, and after two weeks,
Speaker 2: if something happens with my running backs, have him there.
Speaker 4: I got you.
Speaker 6: So you're you're just deferring the decision. But if nothing happens,
Speaker 6: you're saying at the end of two weeks, you would
Speaker 6: let him walk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if if nothing happens, If nothing happens, right, which,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to use the suspended list to my advantage, Davi.
Speaker 6: Now now that this is just to be clear, the
Speaker 6: suspension list is not the same as like, for example,
Speaker 6: if you wanted to keep a guy that you were
Speaker 6: going to ultimately put on IR, you would have to
Speaker 6: put them on the roster first, then move them divers,
Speaker 6: so they have to be on that fifty three initially.
Speaker 6: It's not the same for the suspension list.
Speaker 2: Okay, straight, you could go in that category.
Speaker 6: Got it perfect, So everybody agrees three running backs, it
Speaker 6: would be Tony pollat Rico Dawdle, and Douce Vaughan on
Speaker 6: the final roster.
Speaker 4: Yes, got it all right.
Speaker 6: Let's move on to wide receiver. How many you keep
Speaker 6: and who do you keep? Ceedee Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Michael Gallup,
Speaker 6: Jalen Tolbert Cavante, Turpin, Simmi Fijoko, Jalen Brooks. Maybe even
Speaker 6: where do you go?
Speaker 2: I go with six and Simmi Forjoko's off that list
Speaker 2: that you had for me. So I went with I
Speaker 2: went with Cooks, Turpin, Gallop, Tolbert and then, uh, Lamb
Speaker 2: is what I went.
Speaker 6: So Lamb, Cooks, Gallop, Tolbert, Turpin. And you said, Brooks,
Speaker 6: is that six? That's six?
Speaker 2: That's six? You go five?
Speaker 4: No, I'm right there with you on six.
Speaker 5: The conversation I was having in my head was Jalen
Speaker 5: Brooks versus Semi Fojoko.
Speaker 6: All right, so let's have that debate. You're saying you go, Brian,
Speaker 6: You're saying you go Brooks. Yeah, you tell me why
Speaker 6: Simmi Fijoko would be a better option than Brooks.
Speaker 4: I think Simmy is well.
Speaker 5: The thing with Jalen Brooks says he came in and
Speaker 5: came on strong strong camp, you know strong preseason as well.
Speaker 5: Simmy had an up and down training camp. When it
Speaker 5: was down, it was down. When it was up, it
Speaker 5: was way up. So but Simmy also has a longer
Speaker 5: tenure within this current system. The familiarity with the coaching staff,
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott, Cooper Rush obviously, so there's a lot to
Speaker 5: be said for that as well as far as value
Speaker 5: is concerned. But the more I think about it, it's
Speaker 5: fifty one to forty nine.
Speaker 4: I'm right there with Brian.
Speaker 5: I think that you get Jalen Brooks on the fifty
Speaker 5: three and then I would try to get Simmy on
Speaker 5: the practice squad.
Speaker 4: So but yeah, probably could. Yeah, and I think you could.
Speaker 5: I think there's a greater chance that you get Simmy
Speaker 5: on the practice squad than you'd Getjalen Brooks on the
Speaker 5: practice squad. So because that's also a part of the
Speaker 5: equation as well, when you're talking about these roster cuts,
Speaker 5: who of these two players, whatever the two players might
Speaker 5: be in that conversation, if you want both of them
Speaker 5: to remain in Dallas, who has the better chance of us,
Speaker 5: you know, make it to the practice squad in this instance,
Speaker 5: I think it'd be semi over Jalen. So for me,
Speaker 5: I'm right there with Brian. Take a little convincing of myself,
Speaker 5: but I'm right there. Gallup cooks lamb Tobert Turpin because
Speaker 5: Turpin has to have a spot, and then I'll go
Speaker 5: Jalen Brooks close call fifty one to forty nine.
Speaker 2: Man, I just debated on this position almost kept five.
Speaker 2: And you know, because everybody keeps telling me that Jalen
Speaker 2: Brooks could play special teams, you know, and I haven't
Speaker 2: seen it where with my eyes and I really focus
Speaker 2: on trying to find him on special teams. They talk
Speaker 2: about him as a as a gunner, they talk about
Speaker 2: him on all these the cover guy, they talk about
Speaker 2: him in all these ways. I was kind of waiting
Speaker 2: for that for Simmi Fajoko. I think Simmi Fajoco has
Speaker 2: had his opportunity. You know, health hasn't always been in
Speaker 2: his favor. But I feel like though that with Brooks,
Speaker 2: from what I've seen from him, his ability to go
Speaker 2: get the football, they're crossing routes that he's able to run,
Speaker 2: the potential for some special teams. Of he's going to
Speaker 2: be the sixth receiver, he's going to probably be inactive
Speaker 2: every single week. But I think to have the assurance
Speaker 2: of a guy that can play the special teams. You know,
Speaker 2: he looks like the game's not too big for him.
Speaker 2: You know, he comes in, he makes plays. You know,
Speaker 2: he works with Dak I think exceptionally well. So to me,
Speaker 2: that's why I took a chance on keeping him, just
Speaker 2: because I think there's a little bit more to his game.
Speaker 2: I kind of understand what semiardy is. See.
Speaker 8: That was what made the difference for me is the
Speaker 8: fact that even though they're kind of right there, I
Speaker 8: feel more intrigued about Jalen Brooks and what he can
Speaker 8: give you. I want to see more of him, as
Speaker 8: opposed to Fehoko that we've had somewhat a longer time
Speaker 8: period to be with him and look at him, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 8: he's still kind of developing, But what Jalen Brooks has
Speaker 8: giving you in this short amount of time just keeps
Speaker 8: me a lot more intrigued in wanting to see him
Speaker 8: more of him and then not ready to part ways
Speaker 8: with him just yet.
Speaker 5: Well, the great point that Brian made is when it
Speaker 5: comes to Semi Fooko coming into this training camp, it
Speaker 5: was just all about can he remain healthy and if
Speaker 5: he remains healthy, can he challenge for WR four? Well,
Speaker 5: jaln Tobert ran away with WR four and now here
Speaker 5: we are having the conversation not Simmi versus Tobert, Semi
Speaker 5: versus the other Jalen the seventh round pick. So in
Speaker 5: that instance, yeah, you now you add in what you've
Speaker 5: seen from Jalen Brooks as far as potentially is concerned,
Speaker 5: and you don't write off Semi foro Hoko completely, but
Speaker 5: you do look yourself in the mirror and say, hey,
Speaker 5: you gotta be more intrigued with Jalen Brooks right now
Speaker 5: and then try to get Semi on the practice clad.
Speaker 6: You know, I would even make the argument I go
Speaker 6: to what Brian kind of mentioned there. I think I
Speaker 6: would go five at this position. The way I look
Speaker 6: at this is somewhere well exactly, I look at this defense.
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a much tougher cut. You're
Speaker 6: gonna you would be cutting some very valuable players if
Speaker 6: you start cutting down into that defense, particularly the secondary
Speaker 6: and maybe the defensive line. So that being said, I
Speaker 6: think I would go at five because I feel like
Speaker 6: the five are a very very strong five. I think
Speaker 6: you got a good rotation with those five. And here's
Speaker 6: the interesting part. I actually think you can get both
Speaker 6: these players to your practice squad. One thing I've learned
Speaker 6: over the years is we watch a Jalen Brooks throughout
Speaker 6: training camp, and we think, man, there's no way you're
Speaker 6: getting into your practice squad. And the fact of the
Speaker 6: matter is every team, every camp has a Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 6: They have somebody that showed up in your camp that
Speaker 6: it's like, oh my gosh, this receiver is so great,
Speaker 6: and so you can probably get both those guys to
Speaker 6: your practice squad. So if an injury happens to one
Speaker 6: of your top five, you could immediately move one of
Speaker 6: those guys up. You don't necessarily have to keep them
Speaker 6: on your your fifty three, and that allows you to
Speaker 6: then go deep in some other positions. That's how I
Speaker 6: would look at.
Speaker 4: You could sell me on five.
Speaker 5: It wouldn't be a tough sell because if we're talking
Speaker 5: about who's the plus one Jalen Brooks versus send me
Speaker 5: for Hoko, It's not a hill that I'm willing to
Speaker 5: die on if that death comes at the risk of
Speaker 5: someone on defense, for example, particularly that defensive front that
Speaker 5: you really just don't want to let go of. Isaiah
Speaker 5: Land comes to minding that.
Speaker 6: Kind of him, So don't worry about that, right, But
Speaker 6: that's my point, Like, it's that kind of guy, like
Speaker 6: you want a Jalen or you want an Isaiah Lamb.
Speaker 2: Get the defense. I'm going to blow you away with
Speaker 2: what I did on defense. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6: All right, let's move on. Let's get to our tight
Speaker 6: ends again. I think this one might be a fairly
Speaker 6: easy one to.
Speaker 2: Do this after injury, like right the week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you got four and Jake Ferguson, Luke
Speaker 6: spoon Maker, Peyton Hendershot, Sean mceun. We all agree, all agree, yes,
Speaker 6: all right, perfect, All right, let's move on the offensive line.
Speaker 6: This gets a little dicey when you start talking about
Speaker 6: how many you actually think you will keep. So right now,
Speaker 6: you've got guys like, obviously Tyron Smith, Terrence Steele, Zach Martin,
Speaker 6: Tyler Smith, Tyler Baddish, those five.
Speaker 4: Will be there.
Speaker 6: Those are your starters. Then you've got guys like Austome Richards, TJ. Bass,
Speaker 6: Who's come on. You got a Matt Farniac, Matt Well,
Speaker 6: let's go, guys who've been here a little while. You
Speaker 6: got the veteran that you brought in Odoga. You got
Speaker 6: guys like Josh Ball, brock Kauffman, Alec Linstrom. How many
Speaker 6: do you keep? And who are the names that stay
Speaker 6: outside of that top five, I got ten, You got ten.
Speaker 6: Give me your other five outside of the top five.
Speaker 2: Okay, I went just naming them off in order. Here,
Speaker 2: Bey Oddish Bass, I didn't mind in the orders of numbers,
Speaker 2: So the Jersey numbers, Bey Oddish Bass, Martin a dooga.
Speaker 2: That hurt me, but I did it. Tyler Smith, I
Speaker 2: think Josh Ball is going to be on the roster
Speaker 2: one day and then I move and then move in
Speaker 2: awesome Richards, Tyron Smith, Terrence Steele, Matt Will Let's go. Now,
Speaker 2: this is what I did.
Speaker 6: Which did you leave out?
Speaker 2: I left out? This is what I did. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: freak people out with this one. I cut Lenstrom the center,
Speaker 2: Hoffman the center, and Fartiac the center.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, who's your back what's your
Speaker 6: back up center?
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna try and get
Speaker 2: one of those guys to the practice squad and then
Speaker 2: that is to be I'm gonna yo yo, that guy
Speaker 2: as the backup off the practice squad is what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do.
Speaker 6: Okay, So let me talk me through. What do you
Speaker 6: do in game if your center goes down?
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying I'm gonna put so.
Speaker 6: You made one of those every week, will get moved up.
Speaker 2: Exactly, got exactly exactly. I'm gonna play the Yo yo
Speaker 2: game with my back up.
Speaker 6: Three times, so you just rotate the three of them.
Speaker 2: And maybe injuries take care of themselves or something happens
Speaker 2: and I'm able to put one of those guys on
Speaker 2: full time. But I'm gonna go, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut three guys the like I say, Lindstrom,
Speaker 2: Hoffman and Farniac.
Speaker 6: Do you risk losing Farniac just because offensive line is
Speaker 6: such a position. It is it's a premium place where
Speaker 6: people are looking for bodies, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. But I also want to keep Isaiah
Speaker 2: Land on my team. So that's that. Now, this is
Speaker 2: where I start to play the game of who would
Speaker 2: I rather have? And I kind of feel like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you know Lindstrom, I don't think will get claimed.
Speaker 2: Hoffman is interesting because he's not gonna to fit everybody's eye.
Speaker 2: He doesn't look like your typical NFL lineman, but they
Speaker 2: really really like him. Farniac has shown he can play
Speaker 2: in games. He did it last year. But I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's enough to where we'll see. I mean
Speaker 2: there's some teams. I was talking to a team this
Speaker 2: morning that traded for a center yesterday, and you know,
Speaker 2: they were asking me about all these centers and I said,
Speaker 2: I put them all in the street, and they're like, hmm,
Speaker 2: that's interesting. So we'll see if they get these guys through.
Speaker 2: But I on my list. I did it.
Speaker 4: I'm going this is going to be kind of kind
Speaker 4: of funny.
Speaker 5: I'm going nine today, but I'll have ten before the
Speaker 5: team flies to New York.
Speaker 6: I got you. I know that game, right, So they
Speaker 6: said trade for one. Yeah, so look for claim one,
Speaker 6: which is also the reason why you put all those
Speaker 6: centers out there. You might not be able to get
Speaker 6: all of them. They may not be available to Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I'm going nine with the initial cuts, but my
Speaker 5: goal is to add a plus one.
Speaker 6: Who are the four that you're.
Speaker 5: Going to keep up besides behind side the top of five,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm going Awsome Richards brock Hoffman. I'm sending Josh
Speaker 5: Ball to season ending.
Speaker 6: I are, but you have to get him on the
Speaker 6: roster initially.
Speaker 2: He's outright just putting them on.
Speaker 4: So you visit him next year.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 5: So that's why I with that because and this is
Speaker 5: going to what Brian is talking about. Now, you start
Speaker 5: to play the roster game as far as Okay, well,
Speaker 5: if I have to carry josh Ball for one day,
Speaker 5: that means I have to risk somebody to waivers or
Speaker 5: let him go.
Speaker 4: Right, then the.
Speaker 5: Question becomes how severe is josh Bo's injury? In addition
Speaker 5: to the type of injury itself, this is soft tissue
Speaker 5: hip slash growing on an offensive lineman. Reports are that
Speaker 5: it's multiple weeks. McCarthy said, Sid, it's multiple weeks, it could.
Speaker 4: Easily drag out.
Speaker 6: I get that. But here's here's where I would wonder,
Speaker 6: does it really help you? Because josh Ball, I think
Speaker 6: we all agree agree, is a player that really needs work.
Speaker 6: He needs some development. He's not going to get development
Speaker 6: if he's not even practicing with your team. So what's
Speaker 6: the point of putting him on IR You're basically just
Speaker 6: saying player that needs development can't get it, and we're
Speaker 6: going to start back over next year where he already is.
Speaker 6: Because I just don't know if that's helping him.
Speaker 5: Because my question on him is, let's say in that
Speaker 5: situation right, And you're completely correct. But if he's not
Speaker 5: ready to even begin his on field work until November
Speaker 5: hypothetically December, what did you just do?
Speaker 6: That's game that that's two maybe two and a half
Speaker 6: months of on field work for him still because but no,
Speaker 6: the coaches, the coaches value those practice sessions because those
Speaker 6: practice sessions, you can't get that back in the off season.
Speaker 6: Right that that's time that he could be getting work,
Speaker 6: that they could be looking at him, they could be
Speaker 6: developing him. I still think it's valuable time that they
Speaker 6: just don't get back.
Speaker 2: I kept him acted because I know in November I
Speaker 2: can't find an offensive tackle.
Speaker 6: Very true.
Speaker 2: I mean I've sat there and my my personnel board
Speaker 2: in November looks like a Thanksgiving Day turkey after everybody
Speaker 2: has had their sitting there.
Speaker 6: It's nothing but skin and bone caring up.
Speaker 2: That thing looks like that board looks. And I know,
Speaker 2: if I have an opportunity, if I can bring Josh
Speaker 2: Ball back, and you're you're not wrong with him, it's rehab.
Speaker 2: The practice stuff will be important. But I know in
Speaker 2: November I can't find a tackle, and that's why I'm
Speaker 2: keeping him.
Speaker 5: Then the question becomes what was he as far as
Speaker 5: ability concern as far as development, and.
Speaker 2: Was he had the parking lot well against the Seattle
Speaker 2: right before I was I was ready to move on
Speaker 2: him and a doga and guys like that.
Speaker 4: So that's my point.
Speaker 5: If he had one foot in the parking lot before
Speaker 5: he suffered a major injury, and when he is available
Speaker 5: to come back, he's not coming back in his prime form,
Speaker 5: and then his prime form had one foot out the door. Anyway,
Speaker 5: I just it's like and it becomes maybe the Jason
Speaker 5: Peters conversation on the back half, because we talked about that.
Speaker 5: You bring in a veteran, particularly if Jason Peters, for example,
Speaker 5: is available, you know you're not going to get seventeen
Speaker 5: plus the postseason from him. If things are skinny and
Speaker 5: you're looking at the bones of the situation in late
Speaker 5: November early December, you can get you know, eight nine
Speaker 5: games out of Jason Peter. So that becomes the conversation
Speaker 5: that I'm more comfortable with having. I mean, we'll see
Speaker 5: more comfortable with having versus.
Speaker 2: You're kneeling down rolling.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a lot, man.
Speaker 5: So that's where I am on my four would be
Speaker 5: Austoin Richards, brock Hoffman, Matt will Let's go, and Matt Fontiac.
Speaker 6: The only way you did yeah, okay initially did I
Speaker 6: don't know if you just.
Speaker 8: And last game, I was songing on the sideline with
Speaker 8: Tyler Smith and I asked him, I'm like, hey, what's it.
Speaker 8: Who's the guy who has made the biggest jump in
Speaker 8: the O line? And he said, t J.
Speaker 2: Bass.
Speaker 6: He's been playing by far, He's.
Speaker 8: Done an amazing job. So that's always exciting to see
Speaker 8: and here from a teammate. But I feel like there's
Speaker 8: somebody that's not on here, a name, Like I just
Speaker 8: I don't feel completely confident in this group of backups
Speaker 8: as far as like is this it? Are we starting
Speaker 8: the whole season with this? So I'm with you Patrick,
Speaker 8: and like, there's a name now we do not know
Speaker 8: of just yet that's gonna come.
Speaker 2: Maybe that keeps here fall on the injured list, they
Speaker 2: find somebody, they trade for, somebody, they picked somebody up.
Speaker 2: But that's that's I'm I'm just gonna try and cover
Speaker 2: my basis by having a guy available in that time.
Speaker 4: There's a shadow guy out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna take our final break we're gonna
Speaker 6: come back and get to this defense. Defensive defense is
Speaker 6: gonna be a tough one to cut. We'll talk about
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Speaker 6: Okay, here we are. We're in the final segment of
Speaker 6: the break. We have cut the offense. Now it's time
Speaker 6: to cut the defense. And actually, the way I want
Speaker 6: to look at this is instead of breaking it down
Speaker 6: by position, I'm gonna do front seven and then the
Speaker 6: back half of the defense. And the reason why is
Speaker 6: because you know you can start playing these games of well,
Speaker 6: where are we gonna put Micah For the sake of
Speaker 6: a number let's not play those games.
Speaker 4: Let's say you know we were gonna play it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, y'all gonna play that game, all right now, y'all,
Speaker 6: y'all already gave me that indication. So we're not gonna
Speaker 6: play that game. So what we're gonna do is, I
Speaker 6: want you to talk me through who are the guys
Speaker 6: you're keeping on the defensive line and at linebacker position,
Speaker 6: and who are the notable cuts. All right, so let's
Speaker 6: start first.
Speaker 2: With you, Brian, Okay, well to keep to keep. Now
Speaker 2: this is where I went Land Williams Fowler. You want
Speaker 2: me to take the defensive tackles too, You want all
Speaker 2: the front seat.
Speaker 6: You can talk about him first as defensive ends, and
Speaker 6: then you can morph into the defensive tackles.
Speaker 2: Some as Mazzie Smith had tackled DeMarcus lords It in
Speaker 2: Georg's Armstrong it in Junior Fojoko at end, Hankins it
Speaker 2: tackle Osa at tackle, and Chauncey Golston is a tackle.
Speaker 2: Is what I did there, So that gave me ten
Speaker 2: defensive linemen.
Speaker 6: I one of the notable guys that were left off.
Speaker 2: The notable guys that I released off that list. I
Speaker 2: took off I took off third will notables Quentin Bohanna
Speaker 2: and Gallimore. With the two notables, everybody else Johnson, Alacon
Speaker 2: Wheat Baga goo Is that you say banga? That's uh.
Speaker 2: Those are the guys that I took off the list.
Speaker 2: But the notables I went to, Quentin Bohanna and Neville Gallimore.
Speaker 1: Off the list.
Speaker 6: You ready give up on those guys at this point
Speaker 6: I moved on, all right.
Speaker 4: This is interesting, all right.
Speaker 5: So I'm just going to give you the defensive line,
Speaker 5: all right, and so for me, you got tomorrow because
Speaker 5: Lawrence Mazzie Smith, Olso Diggi Zua, Michael Parsons that you
Speaker 5: can split hairs as he you.
Speaker 6: Know, de or I see linebacker, but he's he's there.
Speaker 5: Sam Williams, Jonathan Hankins, I kept Nevill Gallimore, Durrance Armstrong
Speaker 5: Junior for Hoko, Dante Fowler. Notable cuts for me, Quentin
Speaker 5: Bohanna and Chauncey Ghoston. So you are I'm keeping land,
Speaker 5: keeping land, so you're you're walking and Bohannah, Yeah, Quentin
Speaker 5: Bhannah and Chauncey Ghoston are my notable cuts. So Isaiah
Speaker 5: Lamb makes my fifty.
Speaker 6: Three man rocks okay, and where are your linebacker.
Speaker 5: Linebackers Layton vander Risch the Monk Clark. This is where
Speaker 5: it gets wow, because the problem I have is Jabrill
Speaker 5: Cox versus Devin Harper versus Milie Jefferson. Jefferson came on strong,
Speaker 5: Jack Warris went down with the foot injury.
Speaker 4: Didn't play since settlement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Devin Harper though, so it's Devin Harper versus Jabrill Cox.
Speaker 4: Three minimum.
Speaker 5: I'm probably running four because I lost to Marveion Overshown,
Speaker 5: So I keep Devin Harper and Jabril Cox, and then
Speaker 5: you're gonna you're gonna ask both of those guys to
Speaker 5: do especially Cox.
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 8: I just I hear.
Speaker 5: And started off camp very strong, which rolled off of
Speaker 5: a strong OTAs and mini camp. The back half of
Speaker 5: camp cool down a bit. But I wonder if that's
Speaker 5: true outright or if that's true contextually based on what
Speaker 5: we saw the Marveon overshan putting on the field, and
Speaker 5: then we looked at Jabril Cox and said, why aren't
Speaker 5: you doing what the rookie's doing. So it might be
Speaker 5: a combination of the two things, but losing to Marvion Overshown,
Speaker 5: I can't run light at linebacker. Even if I'm looking
Speaker 5: for Marquise Bell to try to contribute in that flex role,
Speaker 5: I still can't run like at true linebacker.
Speaker 2: That's a place I'm looking to claim. If I'm gonna
Speaker 2: probably claim players, I'm looking at linebackers.
Speaker 6: Because of the claim, because what you're really looking for
Speaker 6: are special teams guys that are the linebacker position. You
Speaker 6: can probably find those guys out on the guys on
Speaker 6: the waiver wire.
Speaker 2: They play so much dime, so much nickel on this team.
Speaker 2: I wonder it kind of it kind of swayed me.
Speaker 2: I moved on from Jabril Cox. I think there were
Speaker 2: some things. His strength is supposedly coverage, and there were
Speaker 2: times where he wasn't good in coverage, and there were
Speaker 2: times where you watch him play at the point of
Speaker 2: attack and he really wasn't good defending the run. So
Speaker 2: I that's just me. You know, I've not talked to
Speaker 2: anybody in the organization about that at all, but I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like that they'll they'll move on there.
Speaker 6: So you're thinking l ve Dmoon Clark are the only
Speaker 6: two you're keeping you and then obviously Mikeah if Micah
Speaker 6: is the line exactly.
Speaker 2: I think, to me, like I've listed I've listed Micah
Speaker 2: as a linebacker, is what I've done. So those three
Speaker 2: I've got, I've got Parsons, Clark Harper, Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: h vander Esh So I got four with the possibility
Speaker 2: of claiming some guys if I if I need to.
Speaker 8: See, I'm right with I like Bryan's list. The only
Speaker 8: guy that I don't think I'm ready to move on
Speaker 8: for from just yet it's Neville Gallimore. But then for
Speaker 8: that name, I'm not sure who am I taking off.
Speaker 5: It's probably gonna be it's Galimore versus Bohanna versus Chauncey Ghoston.
Speaker 4: That's kind of what it bes down to.
Speaker 8: And I think he's to me right now, he's slightly
Speaker 8: ahead of Bohanna, just because based on every time that
Speaker 8: I've looked, it's always been more of Gallimore that I've
Speaker 8: seen versus Bohanna, so that I think, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 8: the only change. And then my concerns about Jabriel Cox
Speaker 8: just from things that I've heard around the building, just
Speaker 8: mixed opinions about him, but totally agree as far as bodies, Yeah,
Speaker 8: you need it unless you bring in some other guy.
Speaker 8: That you pick up from another team.
Speaker 2: That's cut all right, real quick. I moved on from
Speaker 2: Bohanna and then also Gallimore. I don't want the excuses
Speaker 2: for not to play Mazzie Smith. That's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 5: I think that moving on from but Hannah does eliminate
Speaker 5: that excuse. I don't know that releasing Gallimore would create
Speaker 5: that excuse. I think Gallimore's presence doesn't change the Massie
Speaker 5: Smith rep count for me.
Speaker 2: And well, that's I think Chauncey Golston would be my
Speaker 2: three or my UNDERDA. That's that's where I think Gallimore
Speaker 2: would be. But I don't want anybody telling me, oh,
Speaker 2: we've got two guys ahead of Mazzie Smithy. Just play him,
Speaker 2: you know, either figure out he's good enough or he's not.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to leave an excuse.
Speaker 6: And I do wonder though, when you start thinking about
Speaker 6: it from that standpoint, like does that mean that you're
Speaker 6: gonna have to really count on Golsen to play a lot,
Speaker 6: because that at that point you only got I don't
Speaker 6: think Mazzi or Hankins are going to be lying up
Speaker 6: a three technique unless they're in a heavy format where
Speaker 6: they're really just trying to stop.
Speaker 2: It's funny where Mozzi's played some Why technique, Why three
Speaker 2: and some and it's actually looked pretty good doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he just gets you know it, just straight up,
Speaker 2: just right up the field kind of a thing.
Speaker 6: Do you think he might be there may be some
Speaker 6: opportunities for him and Hankins to be on the field
Speaker 6: same time.
Speaker 2: Exactly I'm keeping him? Is that one or that knows?
Speaker 2: But I also know that there's spend times where he
Speaker 2: has played a wide shade is what they call outside shoulder,
Speaker 2: and he's been okay. So but I I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear like there's two guys ahead of him and
Speaker 2: they don't want to play him. Play him, just play
Speaker 2: him and figure it out.
Speaker 6: See where he goes. All right, let's real quick. Get
Speaker 6: to the defensive backs, another tough position to cut. You
Speaker 6: got cornerbacks where you got Trayvon Diggs and Stefan Gilmour
Speaker 6: and Deron Bland and Jordan Lewis as probably your top four,
Speaker 6: and then a guy like C. J. Goodwin who's your
Speaker 6: special teamer. Do you go deeper than that or do
Speaker 6: you see yourself cutting people like Kelvin Joseph Nashaun Wright
Speaker 6: or Eric Scott.
Speaker 5: I go five cornerbacks obviously digs, Gilmore Bland, I activate
Speaker 5: join Lewis this week. There's my four in my fifth
Speaker 5: of CJ. Goodwin because he's your definitive special team days
Speaker 5: and you just don't move on from him, so.
Speaker 6: You move away from the Sean Wright, who's a guy
Speaker 6: that still is I think obviously somebody that you like
Speaker 6: practice squad.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I put him on I put would absolutely make
Speaker 2: it to the presers. I put right on the active
Speaker 2: roster for one day and I'm gonna put him on
Speaker 2: IR the next.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 2: It's what I'm gonna do. And then that way I
Speaker 2: could get him out of he I could just kind
Speaker 2: of keep him in the building. Yeah, I think there's
Speaker 2: some flexibility with Micualmou if you want to play it,
Speaker 2: or if.
Speaker 6: They did that last year for a game or two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jordan, You're absolutely right everything I'm hearing about,
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis. Is there the same plan that they did
Speaker 2: with Gallimore Gallop last year, you know, keep him active
Speaker 2: and let him get ready.
Speaker 6: Okay, what are you thinking about? So you both are
Speaker 6: are willing to part ways with both Kelvin Joseph and
Speaker 6: Eric Scott.
Speaker 5: Yes, I did, Yes, I think that while Eric Scott
Speaker 5: has had a strong camp as far as practices are concerned,
Speaker 5: as far as the games are concerned, he's been caught
Speaker 5: a few times with his eyes in the backfield, there's
Speaker 5: still some development there. I'm still high on the kid.
Speaker 5: I think that his ceiling is quite high, just not
Speaker 5: quite ready yet, but definitely earned a spot on the
Speaker 5: practice squad, developed him there more and I think he'll
Speaker 5: make an impact at some point before this year is over.
Speaker 5: Kelvin Joseph, you can try to get him on the
Speaker 5: practice squad as far as trying to save face on
Speaker 5: you know what point he was drafted in.
Speaker 4: He's shown some signs in the.
Speaker 5: Past couple of games, so at worst, you know, sure
Speaker 5: at the squad spot, because you're gonna need several cornerbacks
Speaker 5: when you practic squad.
Speaker 4: Anyway, And.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm ready to dang it. I hate I'm sorry,
Speaker 8: it's hard sometimes to be professional and separate, you know,
Speaker 8: feelings from what you see. But I do think despite
Speaker 8: some of the misses his hat, I do think that
Speaker 8: he's made somewhat of a jump and I'm talking about
Speaker 8: Kelvin Joseph here. I think he's grown and he is
Speaker 8: a guy that can possibly stay on your practice squad
Speaker 8: and not necessarily somebody's gonna come out. And the same
Speaker 8: thing goes to a lot of these guys on the
Speaker 8: back end that I think that they could be on
Speaker 8: the pice practice squad and not risk some other team
Speaker 8: come and pick it up or sign them, and you
Speaker 8: still have them at the tip of your hands whenever needed.
Speaker 8: But so how many guys was that total?
Speaker 6: I think we came up to five is what we're
Speaker 6: kind of Yeah, green is five is five is our
Speaker 6: number at cornerback. And then you got safety where you've
Speaker 6: got Donovan Wilson, Jaron Curse, and Malie Hooker. You know
Speaker 6: it will be here. You assume Marquise Bell will be
Speaker 6: a part of that mix as well. So that's at four.
Speaker 6: Then you would also assume Isral mcwamo's probably in that mix.
Speaker 6: What happens to guys like juan Ye, Thomas or Tyler Coyle?
Speaker 6: Uh So where do you go with the safety position?
Speaker 2: I went along there. I went My guys are Wilson, Yeah, Wilson, Curse, Hooker, Thomas, Bell,
Speaker 2: is what I went there, and you let mcwamoe go mcwama.
Speaker 2: What I have is that corner safety. So he's gonna
Speaker 2: be in the mix. He's gonna make the team, but
Speaker 2: you're not putting in either position. Yes, exactly, same thing
Speaker 2: kind of how we look at Chauncey. Chauncey Golston absolutely
Speaker 2: got he knowed it.
Speaker 5: That's exactly where I am with it because the reason
Speaker 5: I only ran five at corner is because I know
Speaker 5: is he gives me flexibility between safety and cornerback. But
Speaker 5: in doing so, I gotta run along in safety.
Speaker 8: So you got the whole linebackers, right.
Speaker 5: It's same with Marquise Bell. You know is he linebacker?
Speaker 5: Is he a safety? So that makes me run long
Speaker 5: at safety? So you got the top three hooker, Dono
Speaker 5: and Curse, and then behind him, behind them you got
Speaker 5: Marquise Bell, Israel Mukuamu, Yes, yeah, you agree with that?
Speaker 6: Ambery, Yes, all right? And I think for our specialist
Speaker 6: see Godbrey Anger, we feel certain though made the team. Yeah,
Speaker 6: are you guys happy about that? That that field goal?
Speaker 6: I thought that made me just at least know he's
Speaker 6: got the power. Now you know, fifty nine yards is
Speaker 6: fifty nine yard. But he has the power if you
Speaker 6: get in one of those game situations where he has
Speaker 6: the ability to do it, and that makes you, that
Speaker 6: makes you a little bit intrigued.
Speaker 5: I say, I say he earned his spot, he made
Speaker 5: the team. Does that mean that I'm saying that his
Speaker 5: spot for the year is completely locked in? No, because
Speaker 5: I think Jerry Jones has a little bit of PTSD
Speaker 5: from the Brett Mayer situation. So if if bretton all
Speaker 5: be heaven forbid, goes out there and start missing starting,
Speaker 5: you know, the miss extra points at some point in
Speaker 5: the season, then it's kind of iffy. But as we
Speaker 5: have these roster cuts, Yeah, the kid has absolutely earned
Speaker 5: his butt.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I think he closed the preseason very nicely, because going
Speaker 8: into week two of the preseason I was still having
Speaker 8: doubts or as far as like I didn't get to
Speaker 8: see enough of him, The Cowboys didn't give him enough opportunities,
Speaker 8: and you know, it depends how the game is going
Speaker 8: and all that. But I think that last game at
Speaker 8: home against the Raiders kind of put a bow on
Speaker 8: that and made me feel a lot better for the
Speaker 8: start of the season.
Speaker 6: That is a rap and we wish the best of
Speaker 6: luck to all those folks out there today who will
Speaker 6: be losing their jobs. Let's also remember that, but goodluck
Speaker 6: to them, and we'll be back on Thursday. We'll have
Speaker 6: more talk, will kind of dissect what the Cowboys did
Speaker 6: with their roster, maybe even the signings that they may make.
Speaker 6: We'll talk about all that on Thursday, and then next
Speaker 6: week we get you started. We were into the season
Speaker 6: until then. For Brian brought us Patrick Walker, Amber Garcia.
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