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Speaker 6: It is Tuesday, August twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 6: episode number twenty two. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 6: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage

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Speaker 6: Studios at the start. We got the full crew back

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Speaker 6: in today and it's a great day to have everybody

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Speaker 6: back at studio because today is cut down day. We're

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Speaker 6: going to be breaking that down for you guys. I

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Speaker 6: got my analysts here. They're going to tell you their

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Speaker 6: best thoughts on what we think will happen here when

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys have to make their final cuts to get

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Speaker 6: down to the final fifty three man roster. Before we

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Speaker 6: do that, though, Cowboys make a move last week since

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Speaker 6: the last time we had a show. They acquire quarterback

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Speaker 6: Trey Lance for a fourth round pick. Let's start first

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Speaker 6: with what do you guys think was the strategy behind this?

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Speaker 6: Because I think that's where most of the conversation on

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Speaker 6: Cowboys strategy in going out of spending a fourth round

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Speaker 4: I think they're playing the long game.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, when you look at Trey Lance, you have to

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Speaker 5: look at where he is right now versus what the

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Speaker 5: scope of what he might do coming in, Because if

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Speaker 5: you look at it right now, that's more realistic to

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Speaker 5: what the Cowboys plan is going to be. They're trying

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Speaker 5: to develop him as a backup quarterback at worst case.

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Speaker 5: So worst case he's going to be your definitive backup

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Speaker 5: But I'm of the mindset and I'm of the understanding

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Speaker 5: and having these conversations. I know Brian has had him

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Speaker 5: as well. This move is in no way to leverage

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Speaker 5: against Dak Prescott that this is not that move. This

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Speaker 5: is something the Cowboys are looking at and saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: we're not going to pick up this guy's fifth year option.

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Speaker 5: So it's a two year plan, try to develop him.

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Speaker 5: If he turns into a definitive QB two, wonderful. You

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Speaker 5: gave up a fourth round pick for a definitive, definitive

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Speaker 5: maybe you lose that fourth up front, but maybe you

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Speaker 5: be a capable NFL starter. So they played the long

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Speaker 5: with it was just the compensation itself. The fourth rounder

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys are in a situation where they really wanted Trey,

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Speaker 4: Put a fourth on the table and here he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked for a general manager. They gave up

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Speaker 2: I think it goes back to how they saw Trey

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Speaker 2: Cowboys aren't going to do that. And they have a

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Speaker 2: picking up at three. That's how things work. Don't worry

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Speaker 2: There needs be post practice where he's out there with

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Speaker 2: play a game where Okay, we're willing to move on.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to pay a quarterback fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to do that. In two years, they

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Speaker 2: have those options. Maybe Trey Lance does develop enough to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when the Cowboys, when the news started coming out,

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Speaker 8: So makes perfect sense. Just very very crappy situation, which

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Speaker 8: I'm sure we're going to talk about Will Greer, but

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Speaker 2: Game, I kind of feel like, though, this is just me,

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Speaker 2: personal acquisition as a twenty four to seven job around here,

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Speaker 2: you know, your job is to build your team, whether

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Speaker 2: You know, these things present themselves throughout and we can

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the personal side of the business I kind

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Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe that was that, Maybe that was the extra

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Speaker 2: And I and I thought Dak called the place. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, I think the thing about it is,

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Speaker 6: in intriguing opportunity for the Cowboys Tree Lance. I mean,

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Speaker 6: way I look at it is, I really don't think

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Speaker 6: But your old boss, Bill Parcells used to say it.

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Speaker 6: We're in the talent acquisition bits, right, and at a

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Speaker 6: That doesn't necessarily mean he'll be here. That doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 6: mean that Dak will be gone. What that means is

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Speaker 6: you may have two good quarterbacks and then you may say, Okay,

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Speaker 6: We're gonna re up the deal. We're willing to pay

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Speaker 6: him fifty million or whatever that number is. And guess what,

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Speaker 6: NFL we're open for business. Who wants who wants Trey

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Speaker 6: And we've got you intrigued. Now talking to all the

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Speaker 6: That's where this is an advantage for the Cowboys more

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Speaker 6: Like there are gonna be teams that are beating down

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Speaker 6: Right, that's the plan, But I think all options are

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Speaker 2: Right, it might be a situation where you're not where

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Speaker 6: Maybe too, Yeah, maybe all right, we appreciate you guys

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Speaker 6: we're gonna talk about roster cuts oh yeah. This segment

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Speaker 6: we're gonna talk about roster cuts today, and I want

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Speaker 6: Let's move on to the running back position. How many

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Speaker 6: They got Tony Pollard, Rico'dodellduce, Fawn, Ronald Jones, Malik Davis,

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Speaker 5: I'm carrying three three. I'm going Pilard, Dowdle, and Deuce.

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Speaker 4: Yes, got it all right.

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Speaker 5: be said for that as well as far as value

434
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Speaker 5: is concerned. But the more I think about it, it's

435
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Speaker 5: fifty one to forty nine.

436
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 4: I'm right there with Brian.

437
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 5: I think that you get Jalen Brooks on the fifty

438
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 5: three and then I would try to get Simmy on

439
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 5: the practice squad.

440
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 4: So but yeah, probably could. Yeah, and I think you could.

441
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 5: I think there's a greater chance that you get Simmy

442
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 5: on the practice squad than you'd Getjalen Brooks on the

443
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 5: practice squad. So because that's also a part of the

444
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 5: equation as well, when you're talking about these roster cuts,

445
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 5: who of these two players, whatever the two players might

446
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 5: be in that conversation, if you want both of them

447
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 5: to remain in Dallas, who has the better chance of us,

448
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 5: you know, make it to the practice squad in this instance,

449
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 5: I think it'd be semi over Jalen. So for me,

450
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 5: I'm right there with Brian. Take a little convincing of myself,

451
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 5: but I'm right there. Gallup cooks lamb Tobert Turpin because

452
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 5: Turpin has to have a spot, and then I'll go

453
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 5: Jalen Brooks close call fifty one to forty nine.

454
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: Man, I just debated on this position almost kept five.

455
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: And you know, because everybody keeps telling me that Jalen

456
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 2: Brooks could play special teams, you know, and I haven't

457
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: seen it where with my eyes and I really focus

458
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: on trying to find him on special teams. They talk

459
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: about him as a as a gunner, they talk about

460
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: him on all these the cover guy, they talk about

461
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: him in all these ways. I was kind of waiting

462
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: for that for Simmi Fajoko. I think Simmi Fajoco has

463
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: had his opportunity. You know, health hasn't always been in

464
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: his favor. But I feel like though that with Brooks,

465
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 2: from what I've seen from him, his ability to go

466
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: get the football, they're crossing routes that he's able to run,

467
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: the potential for some special teams. Of he's going to

468
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: be the sixth receiver, he's going to probably be inactive

469
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 2: every single week. But I think to have the assurance

470
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: of a guy that can play the special teams. You know,

471
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: he looks like the game's not too big for him.

472
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: You know, he comes in, he makes plays. You know,

473
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: he works with Dak I think exceptionally well. So to me,

474
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Speaker 2: that's why I took a chance on keeping him, just

475
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: because I think there's a little bit more to his game.

476
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: I kind of understand what semiardy is. See.

477
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Speaker 8: That was what made the difference for me is the

478
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 8: fact that even though they're kind of right there, I

479
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 8: feel more intrigued about Jalen Brooks and what he can

480
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 8: give you. I want to see more of him, as

481
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 8: opposed to Fehoko that we've had somewhat a longer time

482
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 8: period to be with him and look at him, I'm like, Okay,

483
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 8: he's still kind of developing, But what Jalen Brooks has

484
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 8: giving you in this short amount of time just keeps

485
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 8: me a lot more intrigued in wanting to see him

486
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 8: more of him and then not ready to part ways

487
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 8: with him just yet.

488
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 5: Well, the great point that Brian made is when it

489
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 5: comes to Semi Fooko coming into this training camp, it

490
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 5: was just all about can he remain healthy and if

491
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 5: he remains healthy, can he challenge for WR four? Well,

492
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 5: jaln Tobert ran away with WR four and now here

493
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 5: we are having the conversation not Simmi versus Tobert, Semi

494
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 5: versus the other Jalen the seventh round pick. So in

495
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 5: that instance, yeah, you now you add in what you've

496
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Speaker 5: seen from Jalen Brooks as far as potentially is concerned,

497
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 5: and you don't write off Semi foro Hoko completely, but

498
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 5: you do look yourself in the mirror and say, hey,

499
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 5: you gotta be more intrigued with Jalen Brooks right now

500
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 5: and then try to get Semi on the practice clad.

501
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 6: You know, I would even make the argument I go

502
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 6: to what Brian kind of mentioned there. I think I

503
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 6: would go five at this position. The way I look

504
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 6: at this is somewhere well exactly, I look at this defense.

505
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a much tougher cut. You're

506
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 6: gonna you would be cutting some very valuable players if

507
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 6: you start cutting down into that defense, particularly the secondary

508
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 6: and maybe the defensive line. So that being said, I

509
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 6: think I would go at five because I feel like

510
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 6: the five are a very very strong five. I think

511
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 6: you got a good rotation with those five. And here's

512
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 6: the interesting part. I actually think you can get both

513
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 6: these players to your practice squad. One thing I've learned

514
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 6: over the years is we watch a Jalen Brooks throughout

515
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 6: training camp, and we think, man, there's no way you're

516
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 6: getting into your practice squad. And the fact of the

517
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 6: matter is every team, every camp has a Jalen Brooks.

518
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 6: They have somebody that showed up in your camp that

519
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 6: it's like, oh my gosh, this receiver is so great,

520
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 6: and so you can probably get both those guys to

521
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 6: your practice squad. So if an injury happens to one

522
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 6: of your top five, you could immediately move one of

523
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 6: those guys up. You don't necessarily have to keep them

524
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 6: on your your fifty three, and that allows you to

525
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 6: then go deep in some other positions. That's how I

526
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 6: would look at.

527
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 4: You could sell me on five.

528
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 5: It wouldn't be a tough sell because if we're talking

529
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 5: about who's the plus one Jalen Brooks versus send me

530
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 5: for Hoko, It's not a hill that I'm willing to

531
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 5: die on if that death comes at the risk of

532
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 5: someone on defense, for example, particularly that defensive front that

533
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 5: you really just don't want to let go of. Isaiah

534
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: Land comes to minding that.

535
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 6: Kind of him, So don't worry about that, right, But

536
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 6: that's my point, Like, it's that kind of guy, like

537
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 6: you want a Jalen or you want an Isaiah Lamb.

538
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: Get the defense. I'm going to blow you away with

539
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: what I did on defense. Yeah, I think so.

540
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 6: All right, let's move on. Let's get to our tight

541
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 6: ends again. I think this one might be a fairly

542
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 6: easy one to.

543
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: Do this after injury, like right the week.

544
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you got four and Jake Ferguson, Luke

545
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 6: spoon Maker, Peyton Hendershot, Sean mceun. We all agree, all agree, yes,

546
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 6: all right, perfect, All right, let's move on the offensive line.

547
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 6: This gets a little dicey when you start talking about

548
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 6: how many you actually think you will keep. So right now,

549
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 6: you've got guys like, obviously Tyron Smith, Terrence Steele, Zach Martin,

550
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 6: Tyler Smith, Tyler Baddish, those five.

551
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: Will be there.

552
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 6: Those are your starters. Then you've got guys like Austome Richards, TJ. Bass,

553
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 6: Who's come on. You got a Matt Farniac, Matt Well,

554
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 6: let's go, guys who've been here a little while. You

555
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 6: got the veteran that you brought in Odoga. You got

556
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 6: guys like Josh Ball, brock Kauffman, Alec Linstrom. How many

557
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 6: do you keep? And who are the names that stay

558
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 6: outside of that top five, I got ten, You got ten.

559
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 6: Give me your other five outside of the top five.

560
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I went just naming them off in order. Here,

561
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: Bey Oddish Bass, I didn't mind in the orders of numbers,

562
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: So the Jersey numbers, Bey Oddish Bass, Martin a dooga.

563
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: That hurt me, but I did it. Tyler Smith, I

564
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: think Josh Ball is going to be on the roster

565
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: one day and then I move and then move in

566
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: awesome Richards, Tyron Smith, Terrence Steele, Matt Will Let's go. Now,

567
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: this is what I did.

568
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 6: Which did you leave out?

569
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: I left out? This is what I did. I'm gonna

570
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: freak people out with this one. I cut Lenstrom the center,

571
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: Hoffman the center, and Fartiac the center.

572
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, who's your back what's your

573
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 6: back up center?

574
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna try and get

575
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: one of those guys to the practice squad and then

576
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: that is to be I'm gonna yo yo, that guy

577
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: as the backup off the practice squad is what I'm

578
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: gonna do.

579
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 6: Okay, So let me talk me through. What do you

580
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 6: do in game if your center goes down?

581
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying I'm gonna put so.

582
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 6: You made one of those every week, will get moved up.

583
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: Exactly, got exactly exactly. I'm gonna play the Yo yo

584
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: game with my back up.

585
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 6: Three times, so you just rotate the three of them.

586
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: And maybe injuries take care of themselves or something happens

587
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: and I'm able to put one of those guys on

588
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: full time. But I'm gonna go, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

589
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut three guys the like I say, Lindstrom,

590
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: Hoffman and Farniac.

591
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 6: Do you risk losing Farniac just because offensive line is

592
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 6: such a position. It is it's a premium place where

593
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 6: people are looking for bodies, right.

594
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. But I also want to keep Isaiah

595
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: Land on my team. So that's that. Now, this is

596
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: where I start to play the game of who would

597
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: I rather have? And I kind of feel like, Okay,

598
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: if you know Lindstrom, I don't think will get claimed.

599
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: Hoffman is interesting because he's not gonna to fit everybody's eye.

600
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't look like your typical NFL lineman, but they

601
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: really really like him. Farniac has shown he can play

602
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: in games. He did it last year. But I don't

603
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: know if it's enough to where we'll see. I mean

604
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: there's some teams. I was talking to a team this

605
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: morning that traded for a center yesterday, and you know,

606
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: they were asking me about all these centers and I said,

607
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: I put them all in the street, and they're like, hmm,

608
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: that's interesting. So we'll see if they get these guys through.

609
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: But I on my list. I did it.

610
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: I'm going this is going to be kind of kind

611
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: of funny.

612
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: I'm going nine today, but I'll have ten before the

613
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 5: team flies to New York.

614
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 6: I got you. I know that game, right, So they

615
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 6: said trade for one. Yeah, so look for claim one,

616
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 6: which is also the reason why you put all those

617
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 6: centers out there. You might not be able to get

618
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 6: all of them. They may not be available to Yeah.

619
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 5: So I'm going nine with the initial cuts, but my

620
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: goal is to add a plus one.

621
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 6: Who are the four that you're.

622
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: Going to keep up besides behind side the top of five,

623
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 5: I'm I'm going Awsome Richards brock Hoffman. I'm sending Josh

624
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 5: Ball to season ending.

625
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 6: I are, but you have to get him on the

626
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 6: roster initially.

627
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: He's outright just putting them on.

628
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: So you visit him next year.

629
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 6: Huh.

630
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 5: So that's why I with that because and this is

631
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: going to what Brian is talking about. Now, you start

632
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: to play the roster game as far as Okay, well,

633
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: if I have to carry josh Ball for one day,

634
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: that means I have to risk somebody to waivers or

635
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: let him go.

636
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: Right, then the.

637
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 5: Question becomes how severe is josh Bo's injury? In addition

638
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: to the type of injury itself, this is soft tissue

639
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 5: hip slash growing on an offensive lineman. Reports are that

640
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 5: it's multiple weeks. McCarthy said, Sid, it's multiple weeks, it could.

641
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: Easily drag out.

642
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 6: I get that. But here's here's where I would wonder,

643
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 6: does it really help you? Because josh Ball, I think

644
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 6: we all agree agree, is a player that really needs work.

645
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 6: He needs some development. He's not going to get development

646
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 6: if he's not even practicing with your team. So what's

647
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 6: the point of putting him on IR You're basically just

648
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 6: saying player that needs development can't get it, and we're

649
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 6: going to start back over next year where he already is.

650
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Speaker 6: Because I just don't know if that's helping him.

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Speaker 5: Because my question on him is, let's say in that

652
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Speaker 5: situation right, And you're completely correct. But if he's not

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Speaker 5: ready to even begin his on field work until November

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Speaker 5: hypothetically December, what did you just do?

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Speaker 6: That's game that that's two maybe two and a half

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Speaker 6: months of on field work for him still because but no,

657
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Speaker 6: the coaches, the coaches value those practice sessions because those

658
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Speaker 6: practice sessions, you can't get that back in the off season.

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Speaker 6: Right that that's time that he could be getting work,

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Speaker 6: that they could be looking at him, they could be

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Speaker 6: developing him. I still think it's valuable time that they

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Speaker 6: just don't get back.

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Speaker 2: I kept him acted because I know in November I

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Speaker 2: can't find an offensive tackle.

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Speaker 6: Very true.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've sat there and my my personnel board

667
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Speaker 2: in November looks like a Thanksgiving Day turkey after everybody

668
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Speaker 2: has had their sitting there.

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Speaker 6: It's nothing but skin and bone caring up.

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Speaker 2: That thing looks like that board looks. And I know,

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Speaker 2: if I have an opportunity, if I can bring Josh

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Speaker 2: Ball back, and you're you're not wrong with him, it's rehab.

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Speaker 2: The practice stuff will be important. But I know in

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Speaker 2: November I can't find a tackle, and that's why I'm

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Speaker 2: keeping him.

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Speaker 5: Then the question becomes what was he as far as

677
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Speaker 5: ability concern as far as development, and.

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Speaker 2: Was he had the parking lot well against the Seattle

679
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Speaker 2: right before I was I was ready to move on

680
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Speaker 2: him and a doga and guys like that.

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Speaker 4: So that's my point.

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Speaker 5: If he had one foot in the parking lot before

683
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Speaker 5: he suffered a major injury, and when he is available

684
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Speaker 5: to come back, he's not coming back in his prime form,

685
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Speaker 5: and then his prime form had one foot out the door. Anyway,

686
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Speaker 5: I just it's like and it becomes maybe the Jason

687
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Speaker 5: Peters conversation on the back half, because we talked about that.

688
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Speaker 5: You bring in a veteran, particularly if Jason Peters, for example,

689
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Speaker 5: is available, you know you're not going to get seventeen

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Speaker 5: plus the postseason from him. If things are skinny and

691
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Speaker 5: you're looking at the bones of the situation in late

692
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Speaker 5: November early December, you can get you know, eight nine

693
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Speaker 5: games out of Jason Peter. So that becomes the conversation

694
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Speaker 5: that I'm more comfortable with having. I mean, we'll see

695
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Speaker 5: more comfortable with having versus.

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Speaker 2: You're kneeling down rolling.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a lot, man.

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Speaker 5: So that's where I am on my four would be

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Speaker 5: Austoin Richards, brock Hoffman, Matt will Let's go, and Matt Fontiac.

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Speaker 6: The only way you did yeah, okay initially did I

701
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Speaker 6: don't know if you just.

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Speaker 8: And last game, I was songing on the sideline with

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Speaker 8: Tyler Smith and I asked him, I'm like, hey, what's it.

704
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Speaker 8: Who's the guy who has made the biggest jump in

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Speaker 8: the O line? And he said, t J.

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Speaker 2: Bass.

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Speaker 6: He's been playing by far, He's.

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Speaker 8: Done an amazing job. So that's always exciting to see

709
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Speaker 8: and here from a teammate. But I feel like there's

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Speaker 8: somebody that's not on here, a name, Like I just

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Speaker 8: I don't feel completely confident in this group of backups

712
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Speaker 8: as far as like is this it? Are we starting

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Speaker 8: and like, there's a name now we do not know

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Speaker 8: of just yet that's gonna come.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that keeps here fall on the injured list, they

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Speaker 2: find somebody, they trade for, somebody, they picked somebody up.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's I'm I'm just gonna try and cover

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Speaker 4: There's a shadow guy out there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna take our final break we're gonna

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Speaker 6: come back and get to this defense. Defensive defense is

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Speaker 6: gonna be a tough one to cut. We'll talk about

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Speaker 6: Okay, here we are. We're in the final segment of

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Speaker 6: the break. We have cut the offense. Now it's time

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Speaker 6: to cut the defense. And actually, the way I want

778
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Speaker 6: to look at this is instead of breaking it down

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Speaker 6: by position, I'm gonna do front seven and then the

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Speaker 6: because you know you can start playing these games of well,

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Speaker 6: where are we gonna put Micah For the sake of

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Speaker 6: a number let's not play those games.

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Speaker 4: Let's say you know we were gonna play it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, y'all gonna play that game, all right now, y'all,

786
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Speaker 6: y'all already gave me that indication. So we're not gonna

787
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Speaker 6: play that game. So what we're gonna do is, I

788
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 6: want you to talk me through who are the guys

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Speaker 6: you're keeping on the defensive line and at linebacker position,

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Speaker 6: and who are the notable cuts. All right, so let's

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Speaker 6: start first.

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Speaker 2: With you, Brian, Okay, well to keep to keep. Now

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Speaker 2: this is where I went Land Williams Fowler. You want

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Speaker 2: me to take the defensive tackles too, You want all

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Speaker 2: the front seat.

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Speaker 6: You can talk about him first as defensive ends, and

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Speaker 6: then you can morph into the defensive tackles.

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Speaker 2: Some as Mazzie Smith had tackled DeMarcus lords It in

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Speaker 2: Georg's Armstrong it in Junior Fojoko at end, Hankins it

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Speaker 2: tackle Osa at tackle, and Chauncey Golston is a tackle.

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Speaker 2: Is what I did there, So that gave me ten

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Speaker 2: defensive linemen.

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Speaker 6: I one of the notable guys that were left off.

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Speaker 2: The notable guys that I released off that list. I

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Speaker 2: took off I took off third will notables Quentin Bohanna

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Speaker 2: and Gallimore. With the two notables, everybody else Johnson, Alacon

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Speaker 2: Wheat Baga goo Is that you say banga? That's uh.

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Speaker 2: Those are the guys that I took off the list.

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Speaker 2: But the notables I went to, Quentin Bohanna and Neville Gallimore.

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Speaker 1: Off the list.

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Speaker 6: You ready give up on those guys at this point

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Speaker 6: I moved on, all right.

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Speaker 4: This is interesting, all right.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just going to give you the defensive line,

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Speaker 5: all right, and so for me, you got tomorrow because

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Speaker 5: Lawrence Mazzie Smith, Olso Diggi Zua, Michael Parsons that you

817
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Speaker 5: can split hairs as he you.

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Speaker 6: Know, de or I see linebacker, but he's he's there.

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Speaker 5: Sam Williams, Jonathan Hankins, I kept Nevill Gallimore, Durrance Armstrong

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Speaker 5: Junior for Hoko, Dante Fowler. Notable cuts for me, Quentin

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Speaker 5: Bohanna and Chauncey Ghoston. So you are I'm keeping land,

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Speaker 5: keeping land, so you're you're walking and Bohannah, Yeah, Quentin

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Speaker 5: Bhannah and Chauncey Ghoston are my notable cuts. So Isaiah

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Speaker 5: Lamb makes my fifty.

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Speaker 6: Three man rocks okay, and where are your linebacker.

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Speaker 5: Linebackers Layton vander Risch the Monk Clark. This is where

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Speaker 5: it gets wow, because the problem I have is Jabrill

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Speaker 5: Cox versus Devin Harper versus Milie Jefferson. Jefferson came on strong,

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Speaker 5: Jack Warris went down with the foot injury.

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Speaker 4: Didn't play since settlement.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Devin Harper though, so it's Devin Harper versus Jabrill Cox.

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Speaker 4: Three minimum.

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Speaker 5: I'm probably running four because I lost to Marveion Overshown,

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Speaker 5: So I keep Devin Harper and Jabril Cox, and then

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Speaker 5: you're gonna you're gonna ask both of those guys to

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Speaker 5: do especially Cox.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean?

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Speaker 8: I just I hear.

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Speaker 5: And started off camp very strong, which rolled off of

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Speaker 5: a strong OTAs and mini camp. The back half of

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Speaker 5: camp cool down a bit. But I wonder if that's

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Speaker 5: true outright or if that's true contextually based on what

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Speaker 5: we saw the Marveon overshan putting on the field, and

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Speaker 5: then we looked at Jabril Cox and said, why aren't

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Speaker 5: you doing what the rookie's doing. So it might be

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Speaker 5: a combination of the two things, but losing to Marvion Overshown,

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Speaker 5: I can't run light at linebacker. Even if I'm looking

848
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 5: for Marquise Bell to try to contribute in that flex role,

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Speaker 5: I still can't run like at true linebacker.

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Speaker 2: That's a place I'm looking to claim. If I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: probably claim players, I'm looking at linebackers.

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Speaker 6: Because of the claim, because what you're really looking for

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00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 6: are special teams guys that are the linebacker position. You

854
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Speaker 6: can probably find those guys out on the guys on

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Speaker 6: the waiver wire.

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Speaker 2: They play so much dime, so much nickel on this team.

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Speaker 2: I wonder it kind of it kind of swayed me.

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Speaker 2: I moved on from Jabril Cox. I think there were

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Speaker 2: some things. His strength is supposedly coverage, and there were

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Speaker 2: times where he wasn't good in coverage, and there were

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Speaker 2: times where you watch him play at the point of

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Speaker 2: attack and he really wasn't good defending the run. So

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Speaker 2: I that's just me. You know, I've not talked to

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Speaker 2: anybody in the organization about that at all, but I

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Speaker 2: kind of feel like that they'll they'll move on there.

866
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 6: So you're thinking l ve Dmoon Clark are the only

867
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 6: two you're keeping you and then obviously Mikeah if Micah

868
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 6: is the line exactly.

869
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: I think, to me, like I've listed I've listed Micah

870
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: as a linebacker, is what I've done. So those three

871
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: I've got, I've got Parsons, Clark Harper, Yeah, and then

872
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: h vander Esh So I got four with the possibility

873
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: of claiming some guys if I if I need to.

874
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 8: See, I'm right with I like Bryan's list. The only

875
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 8: guy that I don't think I'm ready to move on

876
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 8: for from just yet it's Neville Gallimore. But then for

877
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 8: that name, I'm not sure who am I taking off.

878
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 5: It's probably gonna be it's Galimore versus Bohanna versus Chauncey Ghoston.

879
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: That's kind of what it bes down to.

880
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 8: And I think he's to me right now, he's slightly

881
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 8: ahead of Bohanna, just because based on every time that

882
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 8: I've looked, it's always been more of Gallimore that I've

883
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 8: seen versus Bohanna, so that I think, yeah, that's that's

884
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 8: the only change. And then my concerns about Jabriel Cox

885
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 8: just from things that I've heard around the building, just

886
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 8: mixed opinions about him, but totally agree as far as bodies, Yeah,

887
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 8: you need it unless you bring in some other guy.

888
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 8: That you pick up from another team.

889
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: That's cut all right, real quick. I moved on from

890
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: Bohanna and then also Gallimore. I don't want the excuses

891
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: for not to play Mazzie Smith. That's what I'm thinking about.

892
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: I think that moving on from but Hannah does eliminate

893
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 5: that excuse. I don't know that releasing Gallimore would create

894
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 5: that excuse. I think Gallimore's presence doesn't change the Massie

895
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: Smith rep count for me.

896
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: And well, that's I think Chauncey Golston would be my

897
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: three or my UNDERDA. That's that's where I think Gallimore

898
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: would be. But I don't want anybody telling me, oh,

899
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: we've got two guys ahead of Mazzie Smithy. Just play him,

900
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, either figure out he's good enough or he's not.

901
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to leave an excuse.

902
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 6: And I do wonder though, when you start thinking about

903
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 6: it from that standpoint, like does that mean that you're

904
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 6: gonna have to really count on Golsen to play a lot,

905
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 6: because that at that point you only got I don't

906
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 6: think Mazzi or Hankins are going to be lying up

907
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 6: a three technique unless they're in a heavy format where

908
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 6: they're really just trying to stop.

909
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: It's funny where Mozzi's played some Why technique, Why three

910
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: and some and it's actually looked pretty good doing it. Yeah,

911
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: because he just gets you know it, just straight up,

912
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: just right up the field kind of a thing.

913
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 6: Do you think he might be there may be some

914
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 6: opportunities for him and Hankins to be on the field

915
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 6: same time.

916
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: Exactly I'm keeping him? Is that one or that knows?

917
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: But I also know that there's spend times where he

918
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: has played a wide shade is what they call outside shoulder,

919
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: and he's been okay. So but I I don't want

920
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: to hear like there's two guys ahead of him and

921
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: they don't want to play him. Play him, just play

922
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: him and figure it out.

923
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 6: See where he goes. All right, let's real quick. Get

924
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 6: to the defensive backs, another tough position to cut. You

925
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 6: got cornerbacks where you got Trayvon Diggs and Stefan Gilmour

926
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 6: and Deron Bland and Jordan Lewis as probably your top four,

927
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 6: and then a guy like C. J. Goodwin who's your

928
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 6: special teamer. Do you go deeper than that or do

929
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 6: you see yourself cutting people like Kelvin Joseph Nashaun Wright

930
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 6: or Eric Scott.

931
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 5: I go five cornerbacks obviously digs, Gilmore Bland, I activate

932
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 5: join Lewis this week. There's my four in my fifth

933
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 5: of CJ. Goodwin because he's your definitive special team days

934
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 5: and you just don't move on from him, so.

935
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 6: You move away from the Sean Wright, who's a guy

936
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 6: that still is I think obviously somebody that you like

937
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 6: practice squad.

938
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

939
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I put him on I put would absolutely make

940
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: it to the presers. I put right on the active

941
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: roster for one day and I'm gonna put him on

942
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: IR the next.

943
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: That's fair.

944
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: It's what I'm gonna do. And then that way I

945
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: could get him out of he I could just kind

946
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: of keep him in the building. Yeah, I think there's

947
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: some flexibility with Micualmou if you want to play it,

948
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: or if.

949
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 6: They did that last year for a game or two.

950
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jordan, You're absolutely right everything I'm hearing about,

951
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis. Is there the same plan that they did

952
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: with Gallimore Gallop last year, you know, keep him active

953
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: and let him get ready.

954
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 6: Okay, what are you thinking about? So you both are

955
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 6: are willing to part ways with both Kelvin Joseph and

956
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 6: Eric Scott.

957
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: Yes, I did, Yes, I think that while Eric Scott

958
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: has had a strong camp as far as practices are concerned,

959
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 5: as far as the games are concerned, he's been caught

960
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 5: a few times with his eyes in the backfield, there's

961
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 5: still some development there. I'm still high on the kid.

962
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 5: I think that his ceiling is quite high, just not

963
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 5: quite ready yet, but definitely earned a spot on the

964
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 5: practice squad, developed him there more and I think he'll

965
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: make an impact at some point before this year is over.

966
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 5: Kelvin Joseph, you can try to get him on the

967
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 5: practice squad as far as trying to save face on

968
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 5: you know what point he was drafted in.

969
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 4: He's shown some signs in the.

970
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 5: Past couple of games, so at worst, you know, sure

971
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: at the squad spot, because you're gonna need several cornerbacks

972
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 5: when you practic squad.

973
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: Anyway, And.

974
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm ready to dang it. I hate I'm sorry,

975
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 8: it's hard sometimes to be professional and separate, you know,

976
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 8: feelings from what you see. But I do think despite

977
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 8: some of the misses his hat, I do think that

978
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 8: he's made somewhat of a jump and I'm talking about

979
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 8: Kelvin Joseph here. I think he's grown and he is

980
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 8: a guy that can possibly stay on your practice squad

981
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 8: and not necessarily somebody's gonna come out. And the same

982
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 8: thing goes to a lot of these guys on the

983
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 8: back end that I think that they could be on

984
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 8: the pice practice squad and not risk some other team

985
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 8: come and pick it up or sign them, and you

986
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 8: still have them at the tip of your hands whenever needed.

987
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 8: But so how many guys was that total?

988
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 6: I think we came up to five is what we're

989
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 6: kind of Yeah, green is five is five is our

990
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 6: number at cornerback. And then you got safety where you've

991
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 6: got Donovan Wilson, Jaron Curse, and Malie Hooker. You know

992
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 6: it will be here. You assume Marquise Bell will be

993
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 6: a part of that mix as well. So that's at four.

994
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 6: Then you would also assume Isral mcwamo's probably in that mix.

995
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 6: What happens to guys like juan Ye, Thomas or Tyler Coyle?

996
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 6: Uh So where do you go with the safety position?

997
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: I went along there. I went My guys are Wilson, Yeah, Wilson, Curse, Hooker, Thomas, Bell,

998
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: is what I went there, and you let mcwamoe go mcwama.

999
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 2: What I have is that corner safety. So he's gonna

1000
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: be in the mix. He's gonna make the team, but

1001
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: you're not putting in either position. Yes, exactly, same thing

1002
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: kind of how we look at Chauncey. Chauncey Golston absolutely

1003
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: got he knowed it.

1004
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 5: That's exactly where I am with it because the reason

1005
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 5: I only ran five at corner is because I know

1006
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 5: is he gives me flexibility between safety and cornerback. But

1007
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 5: in doing so, I gotta run along in safety.

1008
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 8: So you got the whole linebackers, right.

1009
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 5: It's same with Marquise Bell. You know is he linebacker?

1010
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 5: Is he a safety? So that makes me run long

1011
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 5: at safety? So you got the top three hooker, Dono

1012
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 5: and Curse, and then behind him, behind them you got

1013
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: Marquise Bell, Israel Mukuamu, Yes, yeah, you agree with that?

1014
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 6: Ambery, Yes, all right? And I think for our specialist

1015
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 6: see Godbrey Anger, we feel certain though made the team. Yeah,

1016
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 6: are you guys happy about that? That that field goal?

1017
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 6: I thought that made me just at least know he's

1018
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 6: got the power. Now you know, fifty nine yards is

1019
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 6: fifty nine yard. But he has the power if you

1020
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 6: get in one of those game situations where he has

1021
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 6: the ability to do it, and that makes you, that

1022
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 6: makes you a little bit intrigued.

1023
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 5: I say, I say he earned his spot, he made

1024
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: the team. Does that mean that I'm saying that his

1025
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 5: spot for the year is completely locked in? No, because

1026
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: I think Jerry Jones has a little bit of PTSD

1027
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 5: from the Brett Mayer situation. So if if bretton all

1028
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: be heaven forbid, goes out there and start missing starting,

1029
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 5: you know, the miss extra points at some point in

1030
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 5: the season, then it's kind of iffy. But as we

1031
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 5: have these roster cuts, Yeah, the kid has absolutely earned

1032
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: his butt.

1033
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1034
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 8: I think he closed the preseason very nicely, because going

1035
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 8: into week two of the preseason I was still having

1036
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 8: doubts or as far as like I didn't get to

1037
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 8: see enough of him, The Cowboys didn't give him enough opportunities,

1038
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 8: and you know, it depends how the game is going

1039
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 8: and all that. But I think that last game at

1040
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 8: home against the Raiders kind of put a bow on

1041
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 8: that and made me feel a lot better for the

1042
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 8: start of the season.

1043
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 6: That is a rap and we wish the best of

1044
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 6: luck to all those folks out there today who will

1045
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 6: be losing their jobs. Let's also remember that, but goodluck

1046
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 6: to them, and we'll be back on Thursday. We'll have

1047
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 6: more talk, will kind of dissect what the Cowboys did

1048
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 6: with their roster, maybe even the signings that they may make.

1049
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 6: We'll talk about all that on Thursday, and then next

1050
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 6: week we get you started. We were into the season

1051
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 6: until then. For Brian brought us Patrick Walker, Amber Garcia.

1052
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 6: I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on

1053
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,040
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1054
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,080
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1055
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,040
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