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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, December eighteenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode
Speaker 1: number ninety eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: Live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Today,
Speaker 1: we got a gumbo show. We got a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff we're gonna throw at you. A lot of different
Speaker 1: topics will hit throughout the show. How's everybody doing this morning?
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm doing fine? Why did you well?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I think we're doing fine, but
Speaker 1: I was gonna let Dave talk for himself. So I
Speaker 1: think we're doing I'm doing great. Thanks. I wasn't sure
Speaker 1: where you were going at. Yeah, it was a very weird.
Speaker 1: I'm a weird guy, great, Hinda, just a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I've got weird tendency sometimes you do.
Speaker 1: It's the holiday season, you know, it's Christmas time. It's
Speaker 1: that time of year. There's a cool in the air. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys come in and your chip more chipper than
Speaker 1: I am. I feel like right now you guys are
Speaker 1: like taking the level up and not so maybe I
Speaker 1: need to step it up. Happy Holidays, happy, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm always in this, you know what. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: sad about it. I'm sad that even though we can
Speaker 1: watch the original, you know, like you see a movie
Speaker 1: and you like it, and you kind of wish there
Speaker 1: was a sequel, even though it won't be as good.
Speaker 1: You just want to see more. You're talking about Cowboys
Speaker 1: versus Indie. No, No, that one was like Rocky five
Speaker 1: to me, bad I didn't happen. Um No. I think
Speaker 1: the video that Kent did with the with Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: talking to the kids last year, and I don't think
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it again. And I'm sad about that.
Speaker 1: But I understand when it's really good, you don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, but I wish there would be another one.
Speaker 1: You know. I will say this, though, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with kind of Resurfacing's fine. I was
Speaker 1: pretty I'll go back and watch a movie. I'm the
Speaker 1: I'm the exact opposite of you, Like I don't I
Speaker 1: hate sequels, Like I can only think of like two
Speaker 1: or three that are good because, like you, just you
Speaker 1: don't need to beat a good idea into the ground
Speaker 1: till it's not good anymore. Just reflect on the old
Speaker 1: one that was great. Like you can go watch the
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett Christmas video whenever you want, or no, I know,
Speaker 1: but like or any or I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: a you know, we don't need to see another lethal weapon.
Speaker 1: You can just go watch the great original one. I
Speaker 1: get a Rocky you did need to see Rocky three?
Speaker 1: You did need to see Rocky flour. I mean that
Speaker 1: might be like, Okay, there's something something about guys from
Speaker 1: y'all's generation like Rocky, Like well, I don't know why
Speaker 1: y'all love Rocky so much? Great you know anyways, But
Speaker 1: I will say this, A couple of weeks ago, I
Speaker 1: thought about that video and I was sitting there in
Speaker 1: Garrett's press conference. It's like a Friday. It wasn't one
Speaker 1: of his best and I started thinking about that video
Speaker 1: and like you can make almost any answer, and I'm
Speaker 1: in the back like laughing, and one of the PR
Speaker 1: guys is like laughing, like like looking at me. I'm
Speaker 1: just like because Garrett says something about, you know, he
Speaker 1: works really well in groups, you know, valuable part of
Speaker 1: our football team. That could be any anything, but it
Speaker 1: was like, it just works really really well. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not he doesn't get a lot of the spotlight.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like the question of like what do
Speaker 1: you think about you know, Blitzen, you know what type
Speaker 1: of reindeers heaters? Just like doesn't get a lot of pup,
Speaker 1: really doesn't. And I just start laughing. But he's about
Speaker 1: he's been on a team for a long time. He's
Speaker 1: been a valuable member of this team for a long time.
Speaker 1: Was talking about like Damien Wilson or something like we'll
Speaker 1: let him join in our reindeer games. Exactly. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. We got a lot of different
Speaker 1: things we want to hit today. I do have a
Speaker 1: big topic I want to hit a little bit late.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this quarterback and really talk
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks around the NFC. I think that's something that
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked much about. Can I just say yay,
Speaker 1: all right? Good arguing about Dak my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 1: Before we get there, though, I would like to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about Jason. I'm sorry about Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: He had a conversation here in the local radio station,
Speaker 1: the Fan that he does every Tuesday morning, and this
Speaker 1: morning had a couple of things that he hit that
Speaker 1: I want us to talk about. First talk called Charlton.
Speaker 1: He's been an inactive for the last two weeks, even
Speaker 1: though he's been healthy for the last two weeks. And
Speaker 1: I'll start the discussion for those who really aren't kind
Speaker 1: of don't know what's going on here. Can you give
Speaker 1: people a sense as to why. I know it's not
Speaker 1: completely known why, but what are the things you've heard
Speaker 1: and what do you think is going on here as
Speaker 1: to why this guy's been inactive for two weeks when
Speaker 1: he's been healthy. Well, Number one, he's not producing. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what it comes in practice him, I mean
Speaker 1: mainly in the games. I mean he doesn't does he
Speaker 1: have one sack or something like that? I mean, is
Speaker 1: that appreciably different than what you've gotten from Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory's got yes, five sacks, yes, And Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: is second on the team in quarterback pressures behind DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence and not by all, not a lot actually, And
Speaker 1: so he does get pressure and he and he's a
Speaker 1: little bit more active now he's a penalty machine. We
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, and in opportunity times, very very
Speaker 1: bad times. But um yeah, I think I think you're
Speaker 1: getting more from him. I mean, with with those numbers
Speaker 1: be the same. I guess the way I should have
Speaker 1: asked that is, do you think that if Taco would
Speaker 1: have had the same opportunities because Taco's miss games, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd think if he'd had the same opportunities, maybe he
Speaker 1: has the same kind of conduction at Randy R I don't. Actually,
Speaker 1: the thing about it is is want to compare Taco
Speaker 1: to anybody would be Duran's armstrong and their numbers are
Speaker 1: very comparable. And I think that's the problem is that
Speaker 1: you know, he's a rookie, fourth Rount pick, tackles the
Speaker 1: second year more expectations, and I just don't think that
Speaker 1: he's he's done much. And you know, we saw this
Speaker 1: last year or was it two years ago or seven,
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but you know, Benson Mayowell was a
Speaker 1: guy that they had some high hopes for and they're
Speaker 1: not afraid to put him in an inactive healthy scratch.
Speaker 1: We don't one hundred percent and know the details, and
Speaker 1: that's by design. They try to keep that stuff in
Speaker 1: house as much as they can. But it's pretty obvious
Speaker 1: that Taco has drawn the ire of this coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Whether that's certainly, production is part of it, because if
Speaker 1: you're just getting, if you're racking up sacks, nobody cares.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's line one. But he's not. And so attitude,
Speaker 1: maybe entitlement, maybe you know, first round pick, maybe feel
Speaker 1: like he's a little bit too big for his britches.
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli had this to say. Somebody asked him about Charlton.
Speaker 1: This was before the Colts game. He said, well, we
Speaker 1: just keep moving along like well okay, he said, he said,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of been out there. It's not something
Speaker 1: I want to talk about. I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 1: I'd rather talk about our guys, our two tackles, Daniel
Speaker 1: Ross and um and Antoine Woods or excuse me, Mollie Collins. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: his his unwillingness to talk about it speaks enough. He's
Speaker 1: talking about two guys that are kind of you know,
Speaker 1: under the radar type guys that are playing really well,
Speaker 1: working hard, hustling, which is his big thing, right, which
Speaker 1: again you know, I don't want to put words in
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton's mouth. I want to be careful about that.
Speaker 1: But like I said, whether it's entitlement, you know, first
Speaker 1: round pick, thinking he's better or more deserving than he is.
Speaker 1: Whether it's attitude, maybe you know, Randy Gregory's taking snaps
Speaker 1: away from him in the game plan and he thinks
Speaker 1: that's BS. I don't know, but I would guess it
Speaker 1: is something related to that, and it has clearly pissed
Speaker 1: the coaching staff off. Jason Garrett two weeks in a row,
Speaker 1: has said we want them to earn the opportunity, which
Speaker 1: to say that about a first round pick is just
Speaker 1: not good. You would assume that that he's going to
Speaker 1: do that regardless, because he should be one of the
Speaker 1: most talented guys in that rotation just by virtue of
Speaker 1: being the twenty eighth overall pick. Which the interesting thing
Speaker 1: again this is just me completely speculating, but I feel
Speaker 1: like I have a pretty good idea of how things
Speaker 1: work in this organization. So this is the coaches, they
Speaker 1: take his jersey away from him two games in a row.
Speaker 1: And you know, Jerry and Stephen Jones sit in on
Speaker 1: these meetings every Monday, and the coach and it's it's
Speaker 1: so funny, like you can hear these talking points. Case
Speaker 1: in point, yesterday Jason Garrett said to us, you know,
Speaker 1: in the side after his press conference, He's like, well,
Speaker 1: this game kind of reminded me a little bit of
Speaker 1: the Tennessee game, and here's why. And that literally like
Speaker 1: at the same time, Stephen Jones goes on the fan
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, this game kind of reminded me
Speaker 1: of the Tennessee game and here's why. So you know
Speaker 1: they have the same reasons, yeah, exact of course. And
Speaker 1: they have these you know, they have these staff meetings.
Speaker 1: They go over the game, the coaches give their grades,
Speaker 1: they talk this is what went wrong, this is what
Speaker 1: went well, and you know, the front office offers their
Speaker 1: ideas and it all kind of comes together to a
Speaker 1: talking point or a game plan for the coming week.
Speaker 1: And for Jerry Jones to come on here today and say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you look back and maybe talk should have
Speaker 1: had a jersey, that's to me that suggests like, well,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going along with what you're saying. Coaching staff,
Speaker 1: Like I hear you're like, you're not happy with Taco. Great,
Speaker 1: he's a first round pick. I am. I'd kind of
Speaker 1: like to see him if I'm paying this guy. And
Speaker 1: by the way, the results this last week suggested that
Speaker 1: you could use help. Yeah, Like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the help, but he's what you got.
Speaker 1: He's a first round pick. You could have used help
Speaker 1: this week. Maybe you need to get him out there.
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's Jerry Jones's gentle way of saying, like, ah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about sitting this out there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: one out there and he's been out now for two games,
Speaker 1: and you know, and they've been winning. You know, it's
Speaker 1: one thing to pull pull him out, and that's not
Speaker 1: doing anything, and he's hurt and he's you know, and
Speaker 1: this team's having success. But it's like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a wake up call. I think I think he
Speaker 1: should get the message loud and clear. Let's see how
Speaker 1: he plays after that. And if I remember Nawa, I mean,
Speaker 1: I say this because here's a guy that they had
Speaker 1: some high hopes for they draft. I mean they signed
Speaker 1: him as a free agent restricted free agent and gave
Speaker 1: him some money, and then they benched him, and then
Speaker 1: he came back and he might have led the team
Speaker 1: in sacks. He might have I mean six. I mean
Speaker 1: it's not a lot, but he had six. I think.
Speaker 1: So I think they're wanting to see what Taco does
Speaker 1: as they come back, and you know, all eyes will
Speaker 1: be on him. I will say, I think we all
Speaker 1: know by by now, Rod Marinelli carries a pretty big
Speaker 1: stick around here, you know, I mean his philosophies and
Speaker 1: his desire. Yeah, and it drives their draft, their drafting,
Speaker 1: their decision making there. So I'll be curious to see.
Speaker 1: I mean if if Rod Marinelli is just absolutely not
Speaker 1: having it, He's like, I don't want to play this guy,
Speaker 1: and this guy's more deserving. Like what wins out there,
Speaker 1: it's it's a little mini storyline to watch in this game,
Speaker 1: and I don't for the most part, Jerry wins. Yeah
Speaker 1: nobly of course, of course he can be convinced, but
Speaker 1: don't convince him ultimately, right, yeah, like t O like
Speaker 1: he he won, you know, well, he won in his lead,
Speaker 1: but eventually he had to go right, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean Parcels didn't want him, and what Parcels that was
Speaker 1: here when he was cut? But when he was cut though,
Speaker 1: Gary notoriously lights on the napkin. Yeah, I love you,
Speaker 1: but you gotta go, bro. No, I know, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, He's always said that too. If you've
Speaker 1: heard this a thousand times. If there's a tie, break
Speaker 1: break it right, yeah, which and yeah, obviously break it
Speaker 1: amongst yourselves. If not, I break it here we go.
Speaker 1: So and I don't know, it's an interesting subplot to
Speaker 1: this game, which I mean, even if he plays, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't really believe he's gonna like take over
Speaker 1: the game. That's my question. Do you think he can help?
Speaker 1: Right now? Do you think that do you think that
Speaker 1: he having another pass rusher can help? And even if
Speaker 1: and I don't want you to get too far to this,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna talk about this next defensive tackle position,
Speaker 1: but do you think that he could help? And that
Speaker 1: gives you a little more flexibility to flexibility with Crawford
Speaker 1: to where he's spending a little bit more time and
Speaker 1: tackle than an end. He helps. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: a taco, you know, get full on one taco. You
Speaker 1: have to get something to how big it is, right,
Speaker 1: nobody orders a taco. No one does one time. That's
Speaker 1: pretty true. Right to get at least two you get
Speaker 1: to get because you want the variety, three kinds of time.
Speaker 1: It comes with something else. Right, most things that you
Speaker 1: order comes like with a taco, which is good. It's
Speaker 1: a complimentary thing. That's what you need, be complimentary. Are
Speaker 1: you just selling me taco will never be the man
Speaker 1: because you just can't have just one taco. Well, I
Speaker 1: feel I've been shown you that he's going to be
Speaker 1: the main course of anything. No, I've been holding out, hope,
Speaker 1: I've I've been Hey, I'm I'm the chief taco defender.
Speaker 1: Like I'm even back to draft before the draft, like
Speaker 1: you know everybody you know he doesn't have the raw
Speaker 1: athleticism of a Randy Gregor skin sweater. This is I
Speaker 1: get notre damn usually when I wear this. Either way,
Speaker 1: I defended him all you say, like, Okay, he's not
Speaker 1: he's not this just raw athlete, but he's he can
Speaker 1: play the position. Like you're not gonna get fifteen sack
Speaker 1: guy at the twenty eighth overall pick. He can do this,
Speaker 1: He can do that. I mean I have to fess
Speaker 1: up and say I haven't seen it, and he would
Speaker 1: help just in the sense that he's another pass rusher
Speaker 1: in uniform. But he hasn't made an impactful play it
Speaker 1: seems like since September. So I have a hard time
Speaker 1: buying it right now. Did Byron Jones have a player
Speaker 1: that was drafted around him that the Cowboys were like, man,
Speaker 1: they should have taken him. I mean, it always sucks
Speaker 1: to have a guy like Taco does that same position. Well, actually,
Speaker 1: what right? Yoh yeah, yes, they could have had t J. Watt.
Speaker 1: So he has eleven sacks right now, and gosh, how
Speaker 1: much better would this defense be right now? You got
Speaker 1: also factor in he's doing that a three four defense
Speaker 1: where he's playing outside, and that was a different thing.
Speaker 1: The whole reason, the whole reason he's not here is
Speaker 1: because they didn't think he could do that, right which
Speaker 1: who knows. I kind of think he could have. Maybe
Speaker 1: he could have. I'm just saying that needs to be noted,
Speaker 1: that that is a difference. To be fair. Um, the
Speaker 1: guy that got pegged with Byron a lot uh. We
Speaker 1: talked about Nelson Aghalore the Eagles took him instead, but
Speaker 1: then and I don't really he wasn't on the Cowboys radar,
Speaker 1: but Landon Collins was taken five picks later, so he
Speaker 1: should have saved somebody life safety issues. There's always there's
Speaker 1: if you look, If you look, you can find a
Speaker 1: guy that's balling out five spots after you. And it's
Speaker 1: probably every pick for every scene. Like you go to
Speaker 1: third round, there's somebody that was selected after your gay
Speaker 1: although round where you like that guy, I really better.
Speaker 1: I do think the Watt Taco thing is a little unique.
Speaker 1: It's the same position, it was the same range, the
Speaker 1: different kind of players. Sure, but I mean that's that's
Speaker 1: on your scouting department to say. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know you've been preaching that one for a couple of
Speaker 1: your apps. I mean we we don't know for sure
Speaker 1: that Watt would excel as a four three down end,
Speaker 1: but I bet you he'd have made more plays in
Speaker 1: the last thirty games and the other parts that too,
Speaker 1: may he made more play, he'd make more plays as
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, but on those rundowns he gets blasted
Speaker 1: off the line, so you can't really use him the
Speaker 1: way you want to use him in a four three
Speaker 1: defense or defense plays a lot of nickel, those kinds
Speaker 1: of things. All I'm saying is because there are different players,
Speaker 1: it's hard to make that comparison, But it certainly is
Speaker 1: hard to look up there and see those loving sacks
Speaker 1: and be like, youth made a right decision. Do you
Speaker 1: think they have a three or four knows because about
Speaker 1: three or four weeks ago, I don't know if we did.
Speaker 1: But Antoine, yeah, Antwinka play it trying to why you
Speaker 1: why are you trying to do? He's been doing this
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. I know. I remember
Speaker 1: he was on that kick at the end of last year,
Speaker 1: like I didn't have a note, got everything they need,
Speaker 1: I didn't have one. I was like, I don't, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't have that guy, Well, maybe I do. Let's
Speaker 1: take our first break. We'll come back. I do want
Speaker 1: to talk about the defensive tackle position. They got pushed
Speaker 1: around a little bit this last game, and we hadn't
Speaker 1: been used to seeing that. I want to talk to
Speaker 1: you guys about how concerned you are or fans should
Speaker 1: be about the defensive tackle position going four. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the second segment of The Break Life
Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, sometimes
Speaker 1: I wish you guys could just hear the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff we talk about in the Break. It varies. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's about the politics. Yeah. Sometimes, well every once in
Speaker 1: a while, we've had a couple though it does vary.
Speaker 1: But hey, we had one. Yeah, oh no, we had
Speaker 1: like we were a little worried that it got on air, right,
Speaker 1: you weren't here here. Me Ag and Nick like just
Speaker 1: had a very civil, intelligent, productive political conversation, which is
Speaker 1: what doesn't happen in America. I know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, we're different opinions too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well no, man, not really, because it's civil. When everybody agrees,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, people disagree, that comes very uncivil. So it's
Speaker 1: always different. But I'm always glad that it's not going
Speaker 1: out over the air. Usually. Whatever we're talking about, hopefully
Speaker 1: Ken keeps us safe. Ken, he's our offense. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's jump back in defensive tackles um last week. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any any stretch to say that
Speaker 1: they struggled last week. You just look at how the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Cults were able to run the ball, particularly up
Speaker 1: the middle. It was play after play where they were
Speaker 1: just basically gashing the Cowboys defensive front. A lot of
Speaker 1: that was because defensive tackles were getting moved around, weren't
Speaker 1: able to get off blocks, and that was in some instances,
Speaker 1: I think even exposing the linebackers in a way to
Speaker 1: where offensive line we're getting to the second level really
Speaker 1: really quick and being able to wash those linebackers out.
Speaker 1: And the one thing we know about those two linebackers
Speaker 1: is I think they are really good when they are
Speaker 1: able to be athletic and just fly to the ball.
Speaker 1: They weren't able to do that. So all being said, Um,
Speaker 1: Jerry talked this morning on the radio show. He said, Uh,
Speaker 1: David Irving is is a guy that he expects to
Speaker 1: play for the season is over. There's only two more games,
Speaker 1: so the expectation is that he should be back this
Speaker 1: week or next week would be my assumption based on
Speaker 1: what Jerry said. You got there? What what do you
Speaker 1: what do you think you're working something up here? What? Well?
Speaker 1: First of all, I mean he could be talking about
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He didn't say regular season. Yeah, he just
Speaker 1: said this year, so season. He could be talking about
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And also that that has officially entered. Believe
Speaker 1: it when I see a territory and that I mean Jerry.
Speaker 1: Jerry has always kind of been more on the like
Speaker 1: pro David Irving side, like we're gonna get him out
Speaker 1: there play well. Of course, Yeah, he loves his players,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Yeah. And this kind of
Speaker 1: goes back to what we were talking about with Taco
Speaker 1: is you know, are the are the coaches and him
Speaker 1: on the same page with that, because just because Jerry
Speaker 1: wants to see it doesn't mean it's gonna happen, which
Speaker 1: I clearly he's the owner. We talked about less. He
Speaker 1: definitely has that ability. But this just feels different. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked we haven't seen David Irving. He hasn't. Untrue,
Speaker 1: he's around here. We haven't seen him off on them
Speaker 1: on the field. We haven't seen him on the field,
Speaker 1: like we haven't seen him as much as we've seen
Speaker 1: other guys like he just he is. The last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, I've started to see him around the building more,
Speaker 1: a little bit more. It. Yeah, it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: following the script that other absences following, Like he's not
Speaker 1: out there with the trainers. He's not. You don't see him,
Speaker 1: you know, Tavon Austen him has been at practice every
Speaker 1: flipping day since he got hurt. Gonna be out there dance, Yeah, sure, Hey,
Speaker 1: you gonna make all the tongue and sheet comment comments
Speaker 1: you want. But like, I'm good for him that he's
Speaker 1: out there. I get part of it, you know, I
Speaker 1: agree with this. So that hasn't been the good for
Speaker 1: him because we're getting we get railed here, here we
Speaker 1: go sometimes and brought us set at one time. Wasn't
Speaker 1: about Tavon. It was about a player who's not here anymore.
Speaker 1: And the guy had been hurt like all the time,
Speaker 1: was at training camp and he was just like walking
Speaker 1: by our tent and Brons was sitting there and he
Speaker 1: looked at this guy and he's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: he was like, right in the middle of practice, he
Speaker 1: walks off because you know he's been in practice. He
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I practicing, and Brian goes. You ever
Speaker 1: see those guys just feel like, you know, they're really
Speaker 1: excited about being hurt. You know, they're just like this
Speaker 1: is good, this is this is the life, just rehab,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. And I feel like Tavon is really
Speaker 1: excited about being hurt. I don't get it. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. And that's this. I I take
Speaker 1: that type of stuff a little bit personally because the
Speaker 1: manner in which I carry myself often suggests that I
Speaker 1: don't give a damn either. You know, but that couldn't
Speaker 1: be further from the truth. You are you being sarcastic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so. I don't want to I don't want to judge.
Speaker 1: I don't want to judge that, like, he's a happy
Speaker 1: guy who likes to dance, and that doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: he's happy about it not. That's actually a great point,
Speaker 1: because it is a great is a great point. But Okay,
Speaker 1: you're right, you would be right on this situation if
Speaker 1: he doesn't gyrate for the last six weeks with a
Speaker 1: groin injury dancing. If you have a growing injury that
Speaker 1: are you sure that that gyration football requires us to
Speaker 1: the groin? Yes, you're positive, Yes you think, positive, you
Speaker 1: think And I'm not gonna mimic the moves. No, I
Speaker 1: don't want to demonstrate. Do you think, Oh, everybody just
Speaker 1: flocked their screens to see this black do you think
Speaker 1: on the table dancing Twitter? There was a video from
Speaker 1: the bleacher. The only thing I saw was the movement
Speaker 1: of the leg, the movement of the arm dancing. I
Speaker 1: don't know that the groin was necessarily involved. Dancing. Thing
Speaker 1: starts there still, dancing still in the stretch line is
Speaker 1: different from trying to capture the corner against a safety.
Speaker 1: That's not That's just not the same. Great point. This
Speaker 1: isn't even what we were talking about. I don't point
Speaker 1: point being it's a Gumbo show. We can do this,
Speaker 1: David just I'm in the driver's seat. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat in the front. I just take
Speaker 1: the wheel. Sometimes. I gotta see David Irving doing something
Speaker 1: football related before I believe that it's happening. And Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett kind of downplayed the thought of him practicing yesterday,
Speaker 1: so that doesn't give me confidence he'll be ready for
Speaker 1: the Bucks. Then there's only one more game, so but
Speaker 1: I mean that game's not gonna matter if this is
Speaker 1: gonna happen. This is just a prediction on my part,
Speaker 1: But if this is gonna happen, it's gonna be they
Speaker 1: win a playoff game and they're in like the divisional
Speaker 1: round and all of a sudden he's here and everybody's
Speaker 1: just jacked and like, oh my god. And then he
Speaker 1: plays like eight snaps. Yeah, he plays like eight snaps
Speaker 1: against the Saints. Like that's my prediction for how this
Speaker 1: goes back to the defensive tackle conversation. Then do you
Speaker 1: think that, and this takes us back again to the
Speaker 1: defensive end conversation, is that the reason why maybe you
Speaker 1: need to get more from tackle at least get him
Speaker 1: into the game and into the rotation so that you
Speaker 1: can get a little more experience and reinforcement at the
Speaker 1: defensive tackle position. Again, that's if you think that what
Speaker 1: we saw sun was more than an aberration, because it
Speaker 1: could be a situation where that was just a poor game.
Speaker 1: We've already said that that defense. I don't think overall
Speaker 1: that's how that defense is going to perform going forward.
Speaker 1: But if you don't believe that, if you do believe
Speaker 1: that's a sign of maybe things to come, he probably
Speaker 1: need to show up your defensive tackle position and there
Speaker 1: may not be another option to be able to do
Speaker 1: that other than Tyron Crawford, right right, which means then
Speaker 1: trickles down right. Yeah. And that's the thing about Taco.
Speaker 1: He when he was playing well, he was doing pretty
Speaker 1: good as a run stopper and not just as a
Speaker 1: as a rusher. So yeah, I mean, I think you
Speaker 1: would like to have him there, and I think Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford is better in the middle of the field. One
Speaker 1: of their best plays of the season was a goal
Speaker 1: line stand on Kamara, and you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of the players did a nice job there.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence might have gotten the tackle, he got the
Speaker 1: tackle because Tyron Crawford was Stonewall Jackson right in the
Speaker 1: middle there and just not it wasn't going anywhere historical reference.
Speaker 1: What happened. Those other linebackers did a nice job of
Speaker 1: feeling Tyron Crawford made the play. I think when he's
Speaker 1: playing tackle, I think that's their best line. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really do. I think with Woods Crawford and then Lawrence
Speaker 1: and Gregory when he's not making penalties, Lawrence and Charlton,
Speaker 1: I just I have no choice but to look at
Speaker 1: it as an aberration. And maybe it wasn't, but I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it right now. Okay, these are These are
Speaker 1: the rushing offenses the Cowboys have played this year. Number
Speaker 1: one Seattle, number three, Carolina, number five, Tennessee, number six, Houston,
Speaker 1: number eight, New Orleans, and then the next one's number seventeen, Washington.
Speaker 1: Did you see a pattern there? They're all No, the Colts,
Speaker 1: They're all except for one, were losses. Okay, I will
Speaker 1: counter that though they played really well against most of those.
Speaker 1: I get that, and that's fine. I'm just saying a
Speaker 1: common thread there is. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: all those teams except for one, ended up being lost.
Speaker 1: But I really think. I think the Colts ability to
Speaker 1: run the ball was a big part of the reason
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys lost that game. That was the only
Speaker 1: game this year other than maybe Seattle, where the running
Speaker 1: game really killed them. Like it was a reason why
Speaker 1: I would I would argue Carolina cam killed them in
Speaker 1: the first half. They buckled down, but it was killed
Speaker 1: the big part of how they built a ten nothing
Speaker 1: lead at halftime. Though where I mean Seattle got I
Speaker 1: think they had like one hundred and thirty all purpose yards.
Speaker 1: It took them like forty five carries to get there. Like,
Speaker 1: they did not kill them. There's something to be said
Speaker 1: for being committed to the run. Yeah, and that's what
Speaker 1: Seattle has been all season. They're committed to it. But
Speaker 1: I just you did up until Tennessee had some success.
Speaker 1: But really, up up until this Colts game, none of
Speaker 1: those teams were just murdering these guys the way the
Speaker 1: Colts did. And that's I just chalk it up to.
Speaker 1: And we knew the offensive line was good going in.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thought they were that good. And
Speaker 1: then I think this this front seven just played their
Speaker 1: worst game of the season. But I don't it's not
Speaker 1: enough for me to just be in alarm bells, you know.
Speaker 1: I thought, Um, the first drive of the game, they
Speaker 1: got the ball like the forty after the blockfield goal
Speaker 1: and then went down scored. We've seen that before. We've
Speaker 1: seen Washington do that at Washington. First drive of the game.
Speaker 1: That happens changes a little bit when you're on the
Speaker 1: forty and I and the Cowboys got the ball back
Speaker 1: and they were driving, and then they had that possession
Speaker 1: with Ola Wally dropping it. I thought, I said to you,
Speaker 1: I think they're in good shape. I think this. I thought,
Speaker 1: I see what Marinelli will do. He will fix that stuff.
Speaker 1: And they're all those traps and stuff in the middle
Speaker 1: of they'll they'll they'll shore that up. They'll be fine.
Speaker 1: And that didn't happen. They drove down again and again,
Speaker 1: and they got better than the third quarter of that
Speaker 1: first drive. I mean, that was the one that was
Speaker 1: really alarming. You would think the Cowboys needing the stop
Speaker 1: coming in after the break and they got gashed again,
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, this is this is not what
Speaker 1: I'm used to seeing. And this actually again Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett both kind of touched on this. It
Speaker 1: was a little bit reminiscent of Tennessee, Like I see
Speaker 1: what they're talking about in the sense of you saw
Speaker 1: what you expected to see. At the beginning of that game,
Speaker 1: the offense was moving the ball, red zone problems. We
Speaker 1: know that the defense they it was uncharacteristic, but they
Speaker 1: managed to keep it within ten. And then whether it
Speaker 1: was the drive at the end of the second or
Speaker 1: the drive at the start of the third, either way,
Speaker 1: I think the defense gave up a score the offense
Speaker 1: couldn't answer, and you're just your energy level just plummeted.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say they threw in the towel,
Speaker 1: but they just didn't have that momentum or that spark
Speaker 1: that they needed to keep playing that way, which is
Speaker 1: the same thing that happened. Remember against Tennessee, they score early,
Speaker 1: had a chance to make it like twenty one to three,
Speaker 1: I think, did not do it, and the next thing
Speaker 1: you know, they're just lifeless and the Titans are converting
Speaker 1: third down after third down after third down. I think
Speaker 1: it was really similar in that regard. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: you look at it, you talk about those teams that
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier that the Cowboys have played that are
Speaker 1: in the top ten in rushing. Look at the NFC
Speaker 1: playoffs right now, all six teams that are in the
Speaker 1: playoffs post significant challenges in the running game. You look
Speaker 1: at obviously the New Orleans and Los Angeles rams Um,
Speaker 1: then Chicago, and then you get to the Wildcards Seattle,
Speaker 1: who you've already played in Minnesota, who last week showed
Speaker 1: how powerful their running games can be. I think they
Speaker 1: went over two hundred yards with their two backs last
Speaker 1: with Dalvin fired their coordinator because he wouldn't run the ball,
Speaker 1: and then they ran it. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now it's looking like it made I say that out
Speaker 1: loud on the podcast. You know, it's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: You know what one thing you're looking at the playoff picture.
Speaker 1: I understand the Cowboys have to get there, and if
Speaker 1: they if they don't get there, then we'll be talking
Speaker 1: about a lot more than just playoffs. But so I
Speaker 1: do think that they're gonna be in the playoffs, you know,
Speaker 1: and there's looks like New Orleans is going to be
Speaker 1: the one. And so you win this game, if you
Speaker 1: can win that game in the playoffs, you can you know,
Speaker 1: you would think you'd play there. However, if Minnesota is
Speaker 1: the sixth, the fact that Chicago could lose that game.
Speaker 1: I think Chicago's playing well and personally at home, but
Speaker 1: a division game, Minnesota going there, that would be the
Speaker 1: team that could upset Chicago in my opinion, which means
Speaker 1: they would go to the number one seed if that
Speaker 1: is the way it shakes out. Also, but it was
Speaker 1: a possible ability that Seattle gets jumped by Minnesota. Yes,
Speaker 1: there is possible. Yeah, Actually, right now, Seattle would have
Speaker 1: to lose both of these last two I started playing
Speaker 1: around with all the different scenarios right now, those last
Speaker 1: two spots. There are four teams that have a legitimate chance,
Speaker 1: Like there are things you say, oh, that definitely could
Speaker 1: happen over these last two weeks that could put UM Seattle, Minnesota, Philly,
Speaker 1: or Washington into the playoffs. And by the way, in
Speaker 1: all different spots between five and six. So there's no
Speaker 1: getting right now that the Cowboys necessarily are facing Seattle
Speaker 1: in the first round. Let's say, for example, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that can happen to change that. Beating
Speaker 1: the Rams gives the Eagles a scary, realistic chance at
Speaker 1: made in the playoffs. So no doubt about it, which
Speaker 1: is Seattle plays Kse this weekend too, so that's a
Speaker 1: game that they could lose that changes everything about that
Speaker 1: bottom part of the division. No, but what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say is if the Vikings make the playoffs as
Speaker 1: a six, that creates a wacky scenario where the Bears
Speaker 1: and Vikings play twice in a row because they're their
Speaker 1: Week seventeen opponents. So that that's just a guarantee for
Speaker 1: something whacky to happen if they have to play. You
Speaker 1: know what, though, I will say this about that, and
Speaker 1: you weren't here for this in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: but but we thought the same thing of Philadelphia. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys beat him twenty four nothing last game of the
Speaker 1: season to cleanse the NFC East, and then they faced
Speaker 1: him again. No one was liking that scenario at all,
Speaker 1: and then they came whooped them bad. I mean, like
Speaker 1: it's possible, Felix. That reminds me of the year Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson won MVP. He dragged the Vikings to the finish
Speaker 1: line against the Packers in the Metrodome, just went off
Speaker 1: and got him into the playoffs, and then they had
Speaker 1: to go to they had played him again. The next
Speaker 1: week as the three six and the Packers just beat
Speaker 1: their ass. All right, let's take our final. Will come back.
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Speaker 1: have about seven minutes left. I did want to talk
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position, and I question posed to me yesterday.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good topic and I'm almost
Speaker 1: sad that we're having to only spend seven six minutes
Speaker 1: on it. But when you look around the NFC, and
Speaker 1: I know Dak has taken quite a bit of a
Speaker 1: pounding and a lot of it is it's kind of deserved.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played well all season. There have been lots
Speaker 1: of moments in different games where he hasn't played well.
Speaker 1: But all that being said, when you look around the
Speaker 1: NFC and you look at how those quarterbacks are performing
Speaker 1: outside of Drew Brees, and you could probably say the
Speaker 1: same thing about Russell Wilson. What other quarterbacks do you
Speaker 1: think are necessarily playing better, especially right now than Dak Prescott. Well,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about NFC guys are in the playoffs
Speaker 1: that are projected to be in the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 1: right now is not a great time to have this conversation.
Speaker 1: But Jared Goff has had a really nice season last
Speaker 1: a few weeks, no, no, no suggling, and that's yeah. Well, Dak,
Speaker 1: you really hadn't had a great season, and over the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks he had played better. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and going into playoffs, what matters most is
Speaker 1: how are you playing right now? I guess the point
Speaker 1: of what I'm saying and what I'm asking here is
Speaker 1: is there a quarterback like normally Aaron Rodgers is in
Speaker 1: the playoffs and you're like, that's the problem? Yea, that
Speaker 1: is your problem because he is so good that he
Speaker 1: masks all the other problems that the team has. Is
Speaker 1: there that kind of quarterback in the playoffs this year
Speaker 1: that you're so afraid of And I don't even want
Speaker 1: to say it from the like, the team's not afraid
Speaker 1: of them, but just as a fan, you're you're you're
Speaker 1: so apprehensive about this quarterback that that clouds everything else. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I don't like your argument though,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know where you're going there, and you're
Speaker 1: saying not argument, it's more of a question questions there
Speaker 1: anyone else if if you think Dak sucks, well, a
Speaker 1: lot of teams are dealing with quarterbacks that aren't that great.
Speaker 1: And I get it, But but on this on the
Speaker 1: flip side, just by you would say I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins, or I'm not worried about Jared Goff
Speaker 1: or Trabisky or whatever. No one's worried about Dak either.
Speaker 1: So they're here for another reason. The Bears are here
Speaker 1: for another reason. The Vikings would be here for another reason.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are certainly here for another reason. So I
Speaker 1: get what you're saying, and I don't think you're like,
Speaker 1: how important is it really if your quarterback's not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent? I get that, but I think that you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen that other teams aren't going to be worried
Speaker 1: about what Dak does either. But I guess that's where
Speaker 1: I start to, and now I will make an argument
Speaker 1: there we go that I think that if you look
Speaker 1: at it from that perspective, and you're not really worried
Speaker 1: about any of these quarterbacks, then guess what what are
Speaker 1: you worried about? Well, the run game, you would think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are up there. They got the best rusher
Speaker 1: in the NFL as far as the number of yards
Speaker 1: are concerned. The defense, Cowboys are right up there with
Speaker 1: some of the best defenses in the league. So I
Speaker 1: guess what I'm kind of getting to is if all
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are kind of right there not really playing
Speaker 1: great other than Drew Brees and Russell Wilson, Okay, right,
Speaker 1: and we've already said that's I started saying. Those are
Speaker 1: the two that you would put as out who have
Speaker 1: played against the Cowboys this year and didn't really go
Speaker 1: off exactly. Neither one of them is Aaron Rodgers, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as how they've played the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys played Drew Brees better than anybody maybe has ever.
Speaker 1: But although he didn't do much last night either. It
Speaker 1: is looking increasingly likely that the Saints will be in
Speaker 1: the Superdome for as long as they're alive in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and if the hit, if that, if that guy in
Speaker 1: that building in the playoffs, doesn't scare you. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to tell you, yeah, other than that that no,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. And you know, it's the
Speaker 1: timing of this sucks because I mean, Dak didn't play
Speaker 1: well the other day. Nobody played well the other day.
Speaker 1: But including the defense that you like, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just am. The timing of it was terrible. But
Speaker 1: I still stand by everything I wrote in my column
Speaker 1: last week, which is you know, I think I said
Speaker 1: back in like week two or week three, like I
Speaker 1: don't have to make a decision on Dak Prescott. This
Speaker 1: whole thing is an audition, like the length and breadth
Speaker 1: of this season, even the bad parts, like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm fine with him as the guy I really am,
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of growing to do as
Speaker 1: a passer. I don't know if he'll ever become the guy.
Speaker 1: And I mean basically winning a super Bowl. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll ever do that. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if he'll ever be on and Drew Brees or Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers type of level. But the intangibles that he brings
Speaker 1: to the table, the face of the franchise stuff, on
Speaker 1: top of what he's been able to accomplish as a passer,
Speaker 1: which is not insignificant. Like he is not terrible by
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination, regardless of what some people
Speaker 1: want to tell you. It's enough for me to think
Speaker 1: that it's probably not realistic that they're going to find
Speaker 1: a better option anytime soon. And so I'm down with
Speaker 1: buying in on this twenty five year old guy with
Speaker 1: a lot of it factor who has a lot of
Speaker 1: room to grow, but has shown all the signs in
Speaker 1: the world that he's willing to do the work and
Speaker 1: is smart enough to improve. Should the fact that he's
Speaker 1: been sacked fifty times, which is second in the league
Speaker 1: this year behind Deshaun Deshaun Watson shout that factor into
Speaker 1: this evaluation of Dak Prescott. Yeah, a little bit, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it also should factor into Scott Linahan and the offense. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, if you go back and look at there's
Speaker 1: a reason why Andrew Luck doesn't get sacked a whole lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, who's a better athlete, Luck or Dak? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean it's probably close. I mean, I mean Dak's
Speaker 1: I would think, is a better athlete. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean luck's pretty good too. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: there's a reason why they scheme plays open a lot quicker,
Speaker 1: and I think it goes to some of these receivers,
Speaker 1: some of the route running. It's everything. The offensive line
Speaker 1: hasn't been good. His process and decision making isn't. It's
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of things that go into the place.
Speaker 1: It's not because he is. He's not very mobile and
Speaker 1: he can't get around people. You know, he's probably avoided
Speaker 1: twenty five sacks this year that most people can't. So
Speaker 1: I think there's it's not just Dak, It's a lot
Speaker 1: of things his offense. I don't think he gets the
Speaker 1: ball out quick. I don't think he processes things as
Speaker 1: quicker as some of the other quarterbacks. No, which is
Speaker 1: natural for a third year guy that all goes yeah,
Speaker 1: he's I mean, I don't know have the numbers on hand,
Speaker 1: but at least like ten to fifteen of these sacks
Speaker 1: are on him, Like there's I mean, he will move
Speaker 1: himself into pressure or wait too long to see things
Speaker 1: come open. He's got a lot of room to grow.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to suggest that he doesn't, but I
Speaker 1: have confidence that he can grow into that, And yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's part of the evaluation of him and where he
Speaker 1: is at as a pocket passer, valuation of the offensive
Speaker 1: line where they thought they would be, the receivers who
Speaker 1: may not be getting open all the time as they
Speaker 1: should to give him the right target to be able
Speaker 1: to get the ball too. I think it all factors in, right.
Speaker 1: I think Dak Prescott is above average in year three,
Speaker 1: which is a pretty good spot to be in for
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. And on top of that, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do not have a realistic avenue to find a
Speaker 1: replacement until twenty twenty, by which point your window is
Speaker 1: starting to close on a whole lot of other players
Speaker 1: on this team too. And so yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a gamble. It's scary given the money, giving money like
Speaker 1: that to anybody, But the things I like about Dak
Speaker 1: give me confidence that it's a safe gamble. All Right,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys joining us back Tomorrow we're gonna
Speaker 1: jump into Cowboys versus Buccaneers. Dave is going to give
Speaker 1: us a report on that Buccaneers offense. Number one. I
Speaker 1: think they're the number one offense in the league as
Speaker 1: far as yards are concerned. You have some problems in
Speaker 1: the red zone. We'll talk about that tomorrow. So then
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