WEBVTT - The Genocide Budget (And How to Stop It)

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<v Speaker 1>Call Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Dick it appened here a podcast that is now

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<v Speaker 2>more than ever about the world crumbling and what you

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<v Speaker 2>can do about it. I am your host Bio Wong

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<v Speaker 2>and with me as Karison Davis.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Happy big, beautiful Bill Day. So today we are

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<v Speaker 3>here to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about the Genocide Budget. I am calling it the

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<v Speaker 2>genocide budget because that is what this budget is designed

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<v Speaker 2>to do. It is designed to create the apparatus that

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<v Speaker 2>will allow the Republican Party to carry out mass deportations

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<v Speaker 2>on a scale that be unlike anything else in American history.

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<v Speaker 2>But Comma, and I want to be very clear about this.

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<v Speaker 2>There has been a lot of talk about the new budgets,

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<v Speaker 2>deportation procedures and the funding of it, and it's important

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<v Speaker 2>to note a few things. From the get go right,

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<v Speaker 2>you have been hearing a lot of numbers, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have been saying this too, because it's true with the

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<v Speaker 2>total amount of funding for order provisions is one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy billion dollars, which is larger, like a third

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<v Speaker 2>larger than the military budget of Russia. This is true, However,

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<v Speaker 2>com that money is not all going to one agency.

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<v Speaker 2>I see a lot of people who think that all

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<v Speaker 2>of that money is going to ICE. That is not true.

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<v Speaker 2>It is dispersed along a bunch of different kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do a little bit of a breakdown

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<v Speaker 2>of where that money is going, because it's not all

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<v Speaker 2>just going to like here's the deportation thing. I'm again

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<v Speaker 2>going to be relying on the American Immigration Council's figures

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<v Speaker 2>because they are very good. So of this one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy billion, about fifty one billion, almost fifty two

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<v Speaker 2>billion is going to quote, construction and maintenance of border walls,

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<v Speaker 2>CPD checkpoints, and CPB facilities. About seven point eight billion

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<v Speaker 2>is going to This is the part that is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the parts that's really fucking scary, is going towards

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<v Speaker 2>hiring more border patrol agents and doing like training for

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcements and doing training center improvements. There's about forty

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<v Speaker 2>five billion that's going into making more attention centers and

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<v Speaker 2>putting more beds in attention centers. That's fucking terrifying. There

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<v Speaker 2>is about thirty billion going into hiring ICE agents, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's just like directly, this is the part that's removing people,

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<v Speaker 2>hiring ICE agents deporting people. There's about a billion for

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Defense to like help with all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>There's thirteen and a half billion for state immigration and

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<v Speaker 2>border enforcements like cost fu imbursement stuff, so state programs

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<v Speaker 2>can can do things, and there's money for the federal

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<v Speaker 2>government to reimburse the states for doing their own programs,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of which will be used. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>not all going to one department. A lot of it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to a bunch of different places, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it's going towards border wall construction, which is very bad,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also like a third of well it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a quarter roughly of the budget is going to that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also worth noting that these numbers are all over

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<v Speaker 2>the course of a decade, right. This stuff doesn't just

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<v Speaker 2>like instantly appear. They have to build all of that

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<v Speaker 2>apparatus up, and that means they can be stopped now, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's going to take a fucking decade for them

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<v Speaker 2>to get all of this up and running. And that means,

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<v Speaker 2>on the one hand, the longer we wait to resist

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<v Speaker 2>them and to basically neutralize ices and Border Patrol's capacity

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<v Speaker 2>to do this stuff, the worse it gets. But also

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<v Speaker 2>they have to be in power for a fucking decade

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<v Speaker 2>for all of this shit to kick in, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they're still in power in a decade, we have quite

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<v Speaker 2>frankly larger problems here. So that's just the initial stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to I want to make sure people

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<v Speaker 2>understand about this, because there's a lot of not good

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<v Speaker 2>reporting happening about it that doesn't break the stuff down.

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<v Speaker 2>So the downside, again, as I said, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy billion dollars just directly to the deportation engine in

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<v Speaker 2>various forms and to the border wall. ICE's total tension

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<v Speaker 2>budget goes too, and this is again from the American

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<v Speaker 2>Immigration Council. ICE's total detention budget goes at minimum to

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen billion a year. This is and I this amount

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<v Speaker 2>would represent a three hundred and eight percent increase on

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<v Speaker 2>an annual basis over ICE's twenty twenty four detention budget.

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<v Speaker 2>By comparison, the entire Federal Bureau of Prisons budget was

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<v Speaker 2>eight point six billion. So they're trying to do a

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<v Speaker 2>yearly detention budget that is significantly larger than the entire

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<v Speaker 2>detension budget of the federal prison system.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're just creating a whole separate prison system. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the extra funding for DHS is essentially

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<v Speaker 3>creating a second army that is allowed to operate on

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<v Speaker 3>domestic soil with way less strings attached.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's like the primary ten year plan. You can

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<v Speaker 3>see what they tried to do in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 3>what they did do in Los Angeles like a few

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago. They're gonna want to do that everywhere, but

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<v Speaker 3>with their own DHS military, with their own DHS prisons

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<v Speaker 3>completely siloed away from the rest of the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's also and this is something that goes for

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<v Speaker 2>most of this bill, there is very very little straints

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<v Speaker 2>on how this money can be spent. These groups have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of latitude on it now. It is also

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<v Speaker 2>worth noting a lot of this is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>spent on absolutely just incredibly stupid bullshit, Like they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to spend a bunch of money on border wall shit

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to go to a bunch of like contract grifts.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to spend like an unbelievable portion of this

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<v Speaker 2>money somehow is going to go to like extremely stupid

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<v Speaker 2>AI startups. But yeah, it's very, very fucking bad. There

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<v Speaker 2>is also again a lot of money for state and

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<v Speaker 2>local governments to spend working with ICE. They estimate that

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<v Speaker 2>this could lead to one hundred and twenty five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>beds for holding people, which is again only slightly less

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<v Speaker 2>than the entire federal prison system. So yeah, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to make a second prison system specifically to do these

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<v Speaker 2>these fucking this deportation like ethnic cleansing, genocide, and just

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<v Speaker 2>directly under the control of Stephen Miller, like Stephen Miller

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<v Speaker 2>gets his own military and his own prisons. And Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is on the record saying that Stephen Miller, if Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>Miller had his way, they would be hundred million people

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<v Speaker 2>in the US and they would all look like Stephen Miller, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they want to get rid of like every non

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<v Speaker 2>white person in the US. That is like the end

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<v Speaker 2>goal of someone like Steven Miller. Billions must ball. But

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<v Speaker 2>the exception, and this is also something that's worth noting,

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<v Speaker 2>is that recently Trump has been talking about like this

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<v Speaker 2>like system where you'd have farm workers who were like

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote the responsibility of the farm owners. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about slavery, right, And people like Curtis Jarvin are

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<v Speaker 2>like very explicitly being like h I wonder if there's

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<v Speaker 2>another domestic population that could do ag your cultural labor.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, yeah, they want the non white population in

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<v Speaker 2>the US to do slavery, right, This is just explicitly

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<v Speaker 2>what they're talking about. Also, they want to hire ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand more iceations. But it's also worth noting, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is very important. Even ten thousand more ICE

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<v Speaker 2>agents is not enough to do the thing they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Like, it's just not right. There's three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million people in this country, like threefty million people in scody,

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<v Speaker 2>Like ten thousand more iations can't do this, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>they especially can't do this if they're being resisted at

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<v Speaker 2>every turn. And you can look at what they've been

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<v Speaker 2>forced to do in la and how they've been forced

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<v Speaker 2>to change tactics as a sign of this, right, where

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<v Speaker 2>like at the very beginning, they were rolling up with

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<v Speaker 2>like these giant like fucking convoys and like everyone's in

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<v Speaker 2>fucking like but like a bunch of guys carrying rifles,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were doing these giant raids and they had

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<v Speaker 2>to stop because when they were assembling on mass in places,

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<v Speaker 2>people would just fucking show up and throw shit at them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they had to stop doing that because it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was it was hindering their ability to do

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<v Speaker 2>this shit. And this is a mirror, interestingly, of what's

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<v Speaker 2>of what's been happening to protesters right where like protesters

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<v Speaker 2>also have been in in LA have not been just

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<v Speaker 2>gathering in one spot because then like the force of

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<v Speaker 2>the police can just come down and hammer you. We've

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<v Speaker 2>done the same thing to Ice, Like they can't do

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<v Speaker 2>these like giant gatherings in one place because like the

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<v Speaker 2>community will descend on them. So what they've been forced

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<v Speaker 2>to do is, like you know, they've become incredibly mobile.

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<v Speaker 2>Theyir deployed and just like a parking lot for a

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<v Speaker 2>small amount of time, doing hidden run strikes on civilians.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is also partially why they're not in uniform,

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<v Speaker 2>because if they show up in uniform, like everyone can

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<v Speaker 2>just immediately fucking show up and fight them. Right. And

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<v Speaker 2>so this is something that I don't think is understood

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<v Speaker 2>very well, which is that their tactics have been forced

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<v Speaker 2>to evolve based on what we're doing to them, and

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<v Speaker 2>even the increases in budget they're doing. Yeah, the attention

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<v Speaker 2>facility stuff is extremely bad. Even with ten thousand more agents,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have enough people to like fundamentally change the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers game here. Right, this is all very bad. It

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<v Speaker 2>is just straight up evil. It is like hideously destructive

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<v Speaker 2>and painful. That is the point of this is to

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<v Speaker 2>be hideously destructive and painful. But every single day, every

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<v Speaker 2>single day, in places like Los Angeles, there are a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of ordinary people who every time fucking eye shows up,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of like messages go out and people

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<v Speaker 2>start putting up fucking wheat posts of shit on telephone poles,

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<v Speaker 2>and suddenly a bunch of people show up to try

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<v Speaker 2>to resist these people. And if we keep doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>and if we intensify that, that none of the worst

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<v Speaker 2>case scenario shit from this budget has to happen. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to make that very clear before we go to break.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get through a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 2>the just like straight cruelty stuff, because there's just stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in here that's just like they just hate immigrants, like

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<v Speaker 2>they want everyone to suffer, and they also want you

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<v Speaker 2>to just suffer in bureaucratic hell. So one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that they're doing is they're setting a cap. This

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<v Speaker 2>this bill sets a cap on the number of immigration

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<v Speaker 2>judges in the country at eight hundred, So there's only

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred right now. Right seven hundred immigration judges is

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<v Speaker 2>not enough immigration judges to process everyone. They want people

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<v Speaker 2>to go on process, and they want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to just fucking grab those people and kick them out.

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<v Speaker 2>They want people stuck in this process forever. They are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to create a backlog. They are also massively increasing

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<v Speaker 2>the application fees for every single stage of the immigration process.

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<v Speaker 2>AIC calculates it would quote result in at least fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars in filing fees during the five year weight

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<v Speaker 2>And like, these people have no fucking money, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why they're coming here. And we talked about this,

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<v Speaker 2>James talked about the Nadarian series. Most of these people

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<v Speaker 2>have used all of their money just getting to the

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<v Speaker 2>US because it's incredibly expensive and dangerous, and these policies

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<v Speaker 2>don't generate a significant amount of revenue. It's just inflicting

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<v Speaker 2>hardship and suffering on people who want to live in

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<v Speaker 2>this place. Yeah, do you know who else wants to

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<v Speaker 2>live in this place?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't come up with the transition there. It's too bleak.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know products and services go. We are back

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of things being terrible. Let's talk Medicaid. So Medicaid

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<v Speaker 2>is getting a trillion dollars of cuts over the next

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. They are imposing an eighty hour a month

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<v Speaker 2>work requirement from Medicaid in food stamps. This is going

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<v Speaker 2>to kick off unbelievable numbers of people. The Congressional Budget

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<v Speaker 2>Office estimates in the next nine years it will kick

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<v Speaker 2>off eighteen point three million people. This is particularly devastating

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<v Speaker 2>to people with disabilities because again there are lots of

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<v Speaker 2>people who can't work that number of hours, and again

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<v Speaker 2>it's devastating people who can't find jobs is a fucking horrific,

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<v Speaker 2>horrific thing. This is also particularly bad for trans people

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<v Speaker 2>because that work requirement is also now applied to food stamps.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, if you just fucking can't find a job,

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking eat shit, they're kicking you off of Medicaid

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<v Speaker 2>and food stamps. They're estimating about three million people get

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<v Speaker 2>kicked off of SNAP. And again, trans people use Medicaid

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<v Speaker 2>and SNAP at enormous rates, significantly higher form the general

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<v Speaker 2>population because our poverty rates are much much higher. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is something we talked about in the last executive disorder.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, this is going to just destroy vast swaths

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<v Speaker 2>of the Royal hospital system because again, one in four

0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.800
<v Speaker 2>people in rural areas get their healthcare paid for by Medicaid.

0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Kaiser Family Foundation is estimating that it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty five billion dollars decrease in rural

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<v Speaker 2>regions over the next decade. These hospitals have already been closing.

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<v Speaker 2>My estimates on this is I think it's actually the

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<v Speaker 2>actual damage to healthcare in these communities is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be significantly worse than what's being projected right now because

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<v Speaker 2>hospital margins are absolutely terrible and they're just built to

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<v Speaker 2>be increasingly more profit extractive. You know, this is creating

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<v Speaker 2>a system where if you are rich and in urban areas,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get health care, but if you're fucking poor

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<v Speaker 2>in urban areas, eat shit. And if you're in rural

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<v Speaker 2>areas and you don't have the money to like fucking

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<v Speaker 2>take a private jet or some shit, or you can't

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<v Speaker 2>pay for like verys private medical care, they're leaving you

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<v Speaker 2>to die. This is going to just absolutely devastate the

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<v Speaker 2>rural economy. And also that's not even the only sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like devastation healthcare thing. Center for American Progress wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a good article about this. This bill also is very

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<v Speaker 2>very laser targeted at defunding Planned Parenthood. It has a

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<v Speaker 2>ban on using Medicaid at any clinic that provides abortions,

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<v Speaker 2>so that money already can't go to abortions, right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the High Amendment. It fucking sucks, we hate it. It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is just a ban on any clinic that

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<v Speaker 2>provides abortions taking Medicaid, which is just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just annihilates Planned Parenthood. It makes it really really fucking

0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.760
<v Speaker 2>hard to do abortions. Planned Parenthood is estimating that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to close two hundred clinics, largely in

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<v Speaker 2>blue states, in urban areas there are a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is also again trans people who get their

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<v Speaker 2>coverage from Plant Parenthood. It's really really, really fucking bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's yeah, I mean that Plant Parenthood is calling

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<v Speaker 2>it like a crypto abortion ban, which it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>is in a lot of ways, because they're just going

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<v Speaker 2>after the ability to actually like fund.

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<v Speaker 3>Clinics, runa function in clinic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is again, you know, like the strategies

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<v Speaker 2>they use against trans healthcare, the strategies they use against

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<v Speaker 2>abortion care. Yeah, and so you know, we're seeing all

0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.440
<v Speaker 2>of these things combined together as like this budget bill

0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.079
<v Speaker 2>and like a lot of what this budget bill is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's obviously always policy shit in budget bills,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is a budget bill full of just shit

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<v Speaker 2>that like could never get passed normally, like would just

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to pass through Congress. But they're just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like ramming through these a bunch of like hideously unpopular

0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:33.360
<v Speaker 2>procedures like in this in this fucking bill, because it's reconciliation.

0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.120
<v Speaker 2>You can't fill a buster it. They're just like putting

0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.400
<v Speaker 2>all of this shit in. They've also eliminated programs that

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<v Speaker 2>made it easier to enroll in medicaid because they want

0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you to be stuck in bureaucracy forever, both on just

0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.840
<v Speaker 2>the level of like if you're stuck in bureaucracy forever,

0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you can't actually access medicaid, and then also the more

0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.320
<v Speaker 2>stuck in bureaucracy you are, the easier it is to

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<v Speaker 2>sell these like conservative like anti bureaucracy budget cut things.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's this like spiraling thing of like everyone in

0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.040
<v Speaker 2>the world is increasingly trapped in these bureaucratic hellholes trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get literally anything out of the state, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that and the only critique of this is from the right,

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<v Speaker 2>And because the only critique of this is from the right,

0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.000
<v Speaker 2>they use it to build their power while making everyone

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<v Speaker 2>else's fucking lives miserable. There's also a provision in this

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<v Speaker 2>that says that if you make the federal poverty line

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and thirty eight percent of the federal

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<v Speaker 2>poverty line, so that's like fifteen thousand, six hundred a

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<v Speaker 2>year of fifteen thousand and six fifty a year to

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<v Speaker 2>like eighteen thousands for a single person, there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>mandatory copay increase for each time you'd like visit a doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>like up to thirty five dollars, which is fucking hideous

0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.800
<v Speaker 2>because like again, the people on Medicaid, like in a

0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of places, it's been possible to use Medicaid without

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<v Speaker 2>paying any money for a visit, right, and that makes

0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.040
<v Speaker 2>people go to the doctor. But if you have to

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<v Speaker 2>pay any money, because the people who are this fucking poor,

0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.200
<v Speaker 2>like you don't have thirty five dollars like fucking laying

0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.000
<v Speaker 2>around to go to the hospital, you fucking defer, and

0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.080
<v Speaker 2>you defer, you defer, and you defer in your healthcare

0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.160
<v Speaker 2>until it becomes until you hit something that either kills

0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.120
<v Speaker 2>you or is so devastating you have to go to

0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.560
<v Speaker 2>the hospital. And that's the situation that the GOP wants here, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>these cuts are not about saving money, they're about just

0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:23.280
<v Speaker 2>inflicting incredible cruelty on people. And yeah, this is just

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<v Speaker 2>another absolutely devastating sort of outcome of this bill. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's also a whole bunch of rollbacks of like all

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<v Speaker 2>of the existing climate policy we've had, which has never

0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.480
<v Speaker 2>been like super good but was like something. But they've

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<v Speaker 2>eliminated the tax credit for electric cars. There's now tax

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<v Speaker 2>credits for like auto loans and shit in very like

0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you can like write off auto loans in very weird ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait are you serious to some extent, Yeah, it's fucking weird.

0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Finally, finally I'm gonna get that Mazda Miata. It's finally happening. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>thank goodness, thank you, thank you Trump, Sorry Elon, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you you Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because there's like one or two things that

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<v Speaker 2>are like kind of okay, like okay, But my favorite

0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:08.800
<v Speaker 2>one is one of the things they gets a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of press is is like, oh, there's no taxes on tips,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's only a temporary.

0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Thing that goes for like the next what four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but then it just expires. Yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like literally a payoff.

0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.040
<v Speaker 3>You know based Actually, I think tips should be tax

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<v Speaker 3>low key.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah wow wow petit bourgeois garrison.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So one of the provisions of this is that

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<v Speaker 2>like the Medicaid cuts like only go into effect in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is very curious because if you think about it,

0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.040
<v Speaker 3>so much of this bill is just trying to like

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<v Speaker 3>midterms proof the GOP m hm. So as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>the midterms happen, and they expect the Democrats to do

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<v Speaker 3>very well despite the broken state of the Democratic Party currently,

0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 3>but that's that's probably still what they're forecasting. But this

0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 3>bill is built so that the Medicaid cuts only go

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<v Speaker 3>into effect after the mid yep, yep, yep. They're trying

0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.080
<v Speaker 3>to make sure it won't hurt them during mid terms.

0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.400
<v Speaker 3>But also if Democrats do take power, then they can

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.399
<v Speaker 3>use the fact that medicaid is doing really bad to

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<v Speaker 3>help Republicans in the next general which is insane because

0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.399
<v Speaker 3>they're the ones that ruined Medicaid. So there's a lot

0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.040
<v Speaker 3>of stuff like that in the bill where they're trying

0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.200
<v Speaker 3>to make certain things go into effect specifically to help

0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.880
<v Speaker 3>them in future elections and hurt Democrats in future elections,

0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 3>including the tax on tips thing. Yep. I will say

0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.800
<v Speaker 3>it does give us a little bit of room to maneuver. Yeah,

0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.479
<v Speaker 3>because this entire bill is a threat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and they have to actualize it.

0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.480
<v Speaker 3>And unless they follow through on the threat, then that's

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<v Speaker 3>all it is. So people have to keep challenging them

0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:48.080
<v Speaker 3>on this and defaying their ability to implement this. And

0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.920
<v Speaker 3>we do have a year and a half to nullify

0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.440
<v Speaker 3>at least some of the worst aspects of this bill,

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<v Speaker 3>and that includes strengthening local healthcare systems, food stamps, but

0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:03.119
<v Speaker 3>also continuing to mobilize popular resistance to ice and border patrol.

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<v Speaker 3>We cannot afford to surrender here.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, And you know, back at the beginning of

0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the administration, the phrase I was using could talk about

0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.159
<v Speaker 2>what this is going to do. I think we were

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.399
<v Speaker 2>all sort of using this was like the state is

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.800
<v Speaker 2>going to retreat and become more hostile, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>like the ten times mega like acceleration of this. Right, Yeah, yes,

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.399
<v Speaker 2>like the state is becoming a thing withoud that it

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:30.280
<v Speaker 2>exists only to like kill you. Right. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>it is also worth noting these programs are not just

0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 2>there because like they're good for people. They were there

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.439
<v Speaker 2>to buy people off, right, Like the carrot and the

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.199
<v Speaker 2>stick are both parts of maintaining each other. Right. The

0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.320
<v Speaker 2>reason you can have the stick is because you have

0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the carrot to pacify enough people to be able to

0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.120
<v Speaker 2>deploy the stick. They seem to believe that they can

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.360
<v Speaker 2>only fucking use the stick now, and they can give

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.120
<v Speaker 2>you the tiniest fucking carrots that have ever existed. And

0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:00.840
<v Speaker 2>we are going to get to see whether they can

0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.600
<v Speaker 2>do that and whether our ability to like fucking produce

0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.960
<v Speaker 2>our own carrots allows us to generate a situation where

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 2>they fucking can't keep controlling you more.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing that they demonstrated the past few months

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.120
<v Speaker 3>is the unilateral ability to shut down government agency.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is something that a smart future candidate could

0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:25.919
<v Speaker 3>weaponize because Ice is younger than most people listening to

0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:27.919
<v Speaker 3>this podcast, It's younger than me.

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.479
<v Speaker 2>Abolishing ICE is now the conservative position. If you are

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<v Speaker 2>a moderate conservative, you are you now must be in

0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:38.040
<v Speaker 2>favor of abolishing ice like that's that's that's simply where

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<v Speaker 2>we are now.

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<v Speaker 3>I was at this somewhat cursed Fourth of July party,

0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I guess full of some of MEA's old Twitter enemies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I will not name names, but multiple, multiple

0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 3>people apologize to me for making fun of ice must

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.000
<v Speaker 3>be destroyed in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so fucking vindicated.

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I am the most vindicated of all time. They wanted

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.240
<v Speaker 3>me to pass off the message to you that they

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.920
<v Speaker 3>are sorry and that you were right the whole time.

0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I was fucking right. So I'm realizing there's a lot

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 2>of people who actually don't know this. I am the

0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.200
<v Speaker 2>person who, until I deleted my Twitter account last year,

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 2>ended every post with moreover, ice must be destroyed. I

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<v Speaker 2>also do this on Blue Sky now, and I want

0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to specifically, if you want to apologize to me, specifically

0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 2>send that apology in the form of money to the

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<v Speaker 2>Trans Income Project. We will link the Trans Income Project's

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 2>fundraiser below below. Here they give money directly the trans people.

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.880
<v Speaker 2>They do a whole bunch of unbelievably cool shit. It rules.

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.199
<v Speaker 2>We're going to have episodes talking about them at some

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.479
<v Speaker 2>point in the next couple of months. They are fucking awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So direct direct, direct your apologies to the Trans Income Project.

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Give trans people money.

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<v Speaker 3>I will inform the people at the next cursed for

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:52.400
<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you know who else wants your money?

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.639
<v Speaker 3>These products and services that support this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, we are back. So there's another part of this

0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>bill that has been getting very very little coverage that

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 2>it really sucks shit, which is a national voucher tax

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:25.399
<v Speaker 2>credit program for private schools. So the way this works

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:29.399
<v Speaker 2>is really convoluted. You can get tax credits by giving

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:34.239
<v Speaker 2>money to organizations that supports private and religious schools and

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.240
<v Speaker 2>give out school vouchers. So the reason it's set up

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<v Speaker 2>like this is this is a way to get around

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<v Speaker 2>the ban on like giving money to religious schools. Why

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 2>just giving money to organizations that give money to religious schools.

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.199
<v Speaker 2>But what this does, right, So these vouchers let you

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 2>pull your kid out of public school and send them

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 2>to a private school. And what this does it allows

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 2>you to spend seventeen hundred dollars like to these organizations

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:03.679
<v Speaker 2>and get a one one hundred percent tax credit. Literally,

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>nothing works like this. Charitable donations don't work like this.

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Nothing else like that we have ever had works on

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 2>a one hundred percent tax credit like this, Like no

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 2>donation fucking happens at all. This is a massive tax

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 2>cut for money that goes to fucking rich family whose

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.199
<v Speaker 2>kids are ready go to private schools. It is a

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 2>massive attack on the public education system. These voucher programs

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>are hideously unpopular, fucking they keep failing in red states.

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Everyone hates them. They fail in blue states. There is

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 2>literally zero chance they could ever get this pass through

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Congress normally, but they stuck it into the budget bill

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and forced everyone to vote for it. Now, it's worth

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 2>noting that this is again, this is a fulfillment of

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 2>like the ancient dream of the right, which is to

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 2>destroy the public education system and replace it with private

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.959
<v Speaker 2>a private education system that is resegregated. They have been

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.679
<v Speaker 2>trying to do this for as long as the like

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the modern right, has been around. This has been their thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we have talked endlessly on the show about

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<v Speaker 2>the ways in which the ways in which the modern

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<v Speaker 2>right is built, specifically on the opposition to desegregation, and

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<v Speaker 2>how this has been their plan, So this also starts

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty seven. It is important to note the

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<v Speaker 2>states have to opt into this program, so they can

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<v Speaker 2>still be killed in most places on the state level.

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<v Speaker 2>But it fucking sucks. It is an attempt to destroy

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<v Speaker 2>the public education system and a maxim tax cut to

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<v Speaker 2>rich assholes. There's also, and this is fun, potentially increases

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<v Speaker 2>the student loan payments. So SAVE was the Biden administration's

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<v Speaker 2>like loan repayment plan. Lots of this stuff never took

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<v Speaker 2>an effect because it was held up by the courts.

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<v Speaker 2>But this gets rid of SAVE and other like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other like loan repayment programs and combines them

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<v Speaker 2>into this thing that's called the Repayment Assistance Plan. And

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<v Speaker 2>this quote from MSN would set borrowers' payments to one

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<v Speaker 2>to ten percent of their income, depending on their income level,

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<v Speaker 2>with a monthly minimum payment of ten dollars. Unpaid interest

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<v Speaker 2>is waived under this plan, and any remaining balance is

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<v Speaker 2>forgiven of for thirty years. So this is like compared

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<v Speaker 2>to say, this is a pretty massive increase in how

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<v Speaker 2>much you would have to pay for your student loans.

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<v Speaker 2>You also can't defer payments if you're unemployed or dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with economic problems, which is a complete shit show. It's

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<v Speaker 2>also it also is worth noting that like mass non

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<v Speaker 2>payments of student loans is already pretty normal. If you

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<v Speaker 2>go back to like the Occupy era and you read

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<v Speaker 2>stuff from the Debt Collective, there's a lot of talk

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<v Speaker 2>then about organizing student loan debt strikes, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>just found out that like huge numbers of people already

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<v Speaker 2>weren't paying, So you know, there's there's potential for resistance here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot of work done on this front

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<v Speaker 2>over the past fifteen years. It also gets rid of

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<v Speaker 2>the Graduate Plus program for people without kids, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>just like a bunch of fucking horrible shit happening. There's

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<v Speaker 2>also in this in this thing, one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for the Office of Management and Budget to do more

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<v Speaker 2>dode shit. And again, OMB right now is as as

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<v Speaker 2>centertor America Park is points out literally ran by the

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<v Speaker 2>director and author and co author of Project twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're giving him one hundred and twenty five million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to figure out how to cut more government agencies.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, one hundred million, sorry, hundred million dollars sea.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that that twenty five will make such a big difference. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I have some ideas for some futures if we want

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<v Speaker 3>to save approximately forty billion dollars a year. Just at

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats on on on Twitter and blue Sky and and threads,

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<v Speaker 3>let me know. I can give you some ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Ice Border Patrol.

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<v Speaker 3>It's possibly billions of dollars in savings.

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me know at at DNC on all platforms

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<v Speaker 3>I can. I can advise for a very very fair

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<v Speaker 3>pay rate review.

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<v Speaker 2>Of all DoD military contracts.

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<v Speaker 3>Competitive consulting rate. I can let you know what things

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<v Speaker 3>you too can doge in the future. Postal cops. It's

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<v Speaker 3>about time ACAB includes the post Office.

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<v Speaker 2>Both beliefs it does. It's motherfucker suck ass right. There's

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<v Speaker 2>also four point five trillion dollars and cuts tax cuts

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<v Speaker 2>mostly for rich people. There's a bunch of extremely stupid

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<v Speaker 2>shit in here. This just it's just a giant wealth

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<v Speaker 2>transfer from poor people to rich people, which is very bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also notable that it puts, like over the next decade,

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<v Speaker 2>like another a three trillion dollar hole in the deficit.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is worth noting because this has pissed off

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Silicon Valley fascists. Because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the Silicon Valley people, and this is something I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this before, but it's very important to understand a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these people are completely obsessed with the deficit,

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<v Speaker 2>right because they want the government to run like a business.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but there's a second thing going on here too,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like they think that like that US deficit

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<v Speaker 2>payments are going to like basically overwhelm the US budget

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<v Speaker 2>and they're just become increasingly large percentage GDP, which will

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<v Speaker 2>cause the US to just like be destroyed. And those

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<v Speaker 2>people are genuinely very pissed at this about this budget.

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<v Speaker 2>And Elon Musk is kind of like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>avatars of this, right me, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think, I think, I think you mean elongated muskrat God.

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<v Speaker 3>I should call him by his real.

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<v Speaker 2>Name, fucking god.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, he is the kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>rallying point of the people who are genuine only ideologically

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<v Speaker 2>committed to just like doing all of these budget cuts

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<v Speaker 2>because they're like weird, actual like true leaver deficit hawks,

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<v Speaker 2>unlike the people who want to do it because they

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<v Speaker 2>also want to do it because they hate poor people,

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<v Speaker 2>but like.

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<v Speaker 3>They hate poor people differently, they have a different type

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<v Speaker 3>of hate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have different Yeah. Well, and it's also like

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<v Speaker 2>the question basically is are you willing to like massively

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<v Speaker 2>increase the deficit to give corporations spending cuts or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that if you do that, you also need

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<v Speaker 2>to do even more cuts. And that's that's the cant

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<v Speaker 2>that Elon's in. It's worth noting before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the Elon angle of this, I'm just going to read

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<v Speaker 2>this from The New Republic. A survey by The Washington

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<v Speaker 2>Post found that forty two percent of Americans opposed the bill,

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<v Speaker 2>while only twenty three percent supported it, leaving the legislation

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<v Speaker 2>with a net favorable rating of minus nineteen. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was the most positive that the results got. A Pure

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<v Speaker 2>Research Center poll found the bill had a net favorability

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<v Speaker 2>rating of minus twenty. Fox News found a net favorability

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<v Speaker 2>rating of minus twenty one. I mean, quinit pack found

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<v Speaker 2>a net favorability of minus twenty six and KFF found

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<v Speaker 2>ability rating of minus twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Those do sound low, but on the other hand, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a very high number for Matt Gates. So for the GOP.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's it's not that low.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, nineteen is like the top of his range.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for that cutting edge, Matt Gates pedophile joke

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<v Speaker 3>right right right on the right, on the cusp of culture.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just really writing the zeitgeist.

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<v Speaker 2>So everyone fucking hates this bill is the thing. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And in this kind of climate, Elon Musk has decided

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<v Speaker 2>to create a new political party called the America Party

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<v Speaker 2>to run against the GOP.

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<v Speaker 3>Many such cases, many such cases times just time as

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<v Speaker 3>a flat circle. Once again, this is like.

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<v Speaker 2>The farsest farce version of the Reform Party, Like who

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<v Speaker 2>fucking knows what this is going to do in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we just don't know. Probably nothing, nothing, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually going to do nothing. Maybe slightly put a tiny

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<v Speaker 2>dent in the GOP. But yeah, I mean, I will

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<v Speaker 2>say I will say this. The actual important thing about

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<v Speaker 2>Elon opposing Trump is that it it gives a wedge

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<v Speaker 2>to pry away different sections of Trump's base, like of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's elite base from him. Like again, like as you

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<v Speaker 2>talked about, like the one moment where it's ever been

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<v Speaker 2>possible to talk about like the Trump Epstein shit was

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<v Speaker 2>when that happened. So I don't know. I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>potential for the future where like stuff can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's possible for there to be larger riffs in that

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<v Speaker 2>sort ofly collision and that can possibly be exploited. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's also just like a bunch of unhindshit that I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if people understand didn't get in the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>All of the like government land transfer stuff got cut.

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<v Speaker 2>That they wanted to put a proposal in to make

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<v Speaker 2>it so that you had to like pay a bond

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<v Speaker 2>if you sued the governments, and that didn't make it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Thankfully we stopped them from doing the trans medicaids of

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<v Speaker 2>bullshit for episode forthcoming. But yeah, this bill really fucking sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of just unbelievably terrible provisions in it.

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<v Speaker 2>But Comma, everyone hates it and it can be stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all I got on Genocide Bill. It could happen.

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