WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Pablo Torre, Rick Neuheisel 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.800 Sports Radio. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.880 Final Hour on this Meet Friday. Pablo Torre, He's uncovered 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:13.840 more Kawhi Leonard's secrets. Apparently he'll join us momentarily. Rick 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.640 new Heisel, college football analyst, will join us. We'll talk 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.240 about a couple of things, including coaches who don't necessarily 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.880 do the research to vote in the Coaches Poll, but 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.320 we do place a whole lot of emphasis on that. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.200 And we'll talk to Rick. He had three different stops, Colorado, UCLA, 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:34.080 and Washington. Did he actually do all the fact finding 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:38.640 when he voted in the College Football Coaches Poll? Also, 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.640 I got to bring out the athletic director at Perdue 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.360 and how would he feel if he was the head 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:49.240 coach at Purdue and your athletic directors basically calling out Indiana, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.000 go there. If you don't want to win championships, you 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.400 can stay here to win championships. 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You guys should have 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.680 been on the edge of your toes there, Like when 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.640 I say who has it been? Like, you're already leaning 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.040 into the microphone. Who has it better than we? 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:54.560 Like? 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.960 You should have even jumped me? Who has it better? 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:58.520 I don't know. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:06.000 Serious grillers choose rectech, more heat, more consistent temperature control, 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.880 more stainless steel, rectech wood fired grills, built like a tank, 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.000 built to last. Visit rectech dot com r e c 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.320 t eq dot com. Nothing compares to cooking on a rectech. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:22.560 I just saw this. This is from John Rand. He 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:28.440 is a well respected media insider. He keeps an eye 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:34.040 on sports TV. He works for Puck and apparently he 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.120 spoke with several sports media executives, The consensus across the 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:46.120 industry is Tony Romo won't be back with CBS. Now, 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:51.160 this is you know, research of asking people their opinions. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.679 I just care about what CBS says, because you could 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.720 have somebody from Fox or ESPN say, oh, I don't 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.640 think he'll be back. I want to know what CBS 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:04.440 thinks because had this been early in Tony Romo's broadcasting career, 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.600 they're not getting rid of Tony Romo. But I think 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:12.120 because that he's been taking some hits by the media 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.840 and his approach to the game maybe being as thorough 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.200 as he once was, that's why he is vulnerable. So 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.480 seventy two million dollars over the last four years of 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:28.040 his contract, and there's going to be other analysts who 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.560 are going to be available, because I think you've got 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:34.639 some free agents here in the waiting. CBS is probably 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.760 going to go with JJ Watt at least this first 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.400 upcoming season, pair him with Nance and Tracy Wolfson. But 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.680 if you start to look at a bigger picture here, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.360 Greg Olsen, Troy Aikman, and Kirk Herbstreet all can be 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:53.960 potential free agents after this upcoming season. So CBS could 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.760 have options if they need options with Tony Romo. I 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.920 would hope he would get another chance after something like that. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:05.600 Certainly embarrassing for him, but looks like CBS the consensus 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:10.000 is that they will not have Tony Romo back. Pablo 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:17.719 Tory uncovers Kawhi Leonard's other hidden secret sponsorship. Here tonight, 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.919 Pablo Tory finds out releases its latest installment of the 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:26.039 saga that continues to linger here over the Clippers and 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.680 the NBA. All right, so what's the update here and 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.279 what does that mean bigger picture? 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:35.960 Pablo Hi Dan, we are brought together once again by 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.000 an alleged secret sponsorship deal for Kawhi Leonard. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:40.279 Always good to. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:40.880 See you like this. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.800 What we're reporting is that two days after I published 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.520 Part one of mine now thirteen part investigation, which I say, 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.040 knowing how ridiculous that sounds, I'll fully cop to it. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:57.080 This is a thirteen part serialized novel at this point, 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.320 but it's actually an investigation right as an investigative series. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.280 And two days after we dropped part one, what happened 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.000 was I got a tip saying that there is another 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.800 secret sponsorship for Kawhi Leonard, that was one thousand percent. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.400 That is a quote, one thousand percent designed to circumvent 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.039 the salary cap. And I've spent the last eleven months 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.320 trying to fact check that, confirm it, further report the 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.279 story of why that would be, how it would be, 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.839 And it turns out that yes, according to our reporting, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.039 we have two sources, two high level sources, one who 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.640 was under contract with the Clippers into a dome project, 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.600 the other a former Clippers high level source. They both 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:39.200 say that the JumboTron manufacturer, Daktronics, which you may not 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.960 know by name, but you certainly know by sight, Dan, 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.599 why are you laughing? Jumbo tron manufacturers are very very famous. 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:50.479 Obviously this one, this one is the one that built 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.320 the Halo board. This is the one hundred million dollar 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.159 project that Steve Baumer built to create the greatest jumbo 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.840 tron and human history. And Kawhi Leonard, accord to our reporting, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.719 had a secret, unannounced no evidence that he did anything 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:09.680 for it, multimillion dollar sponsorship for that company, which and 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.559 I'll just beg one more bit of time here, because 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:20.000 Daktronics had never hired a celebrity spokesperson or sponsor or 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.919 endorser or partner like this before or since, and so 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.240 hard to explain Otherwise I would. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:33.800 Say, given these sponsorship deals and his salary, how much 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.800 money was Kawhin Leonard making a year? 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:37.359 Well, it is. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.279 It's a number that we're constantly chasing, and that is 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.320 constantly changing, which is why we chase it. 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.000 Look, he was, of course a max player in the NBA. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.239 What's interesting though, in that this timeframe we're talking about 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:55.800 is actually after Aspiration collapses. So we're looking at twenty 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.480 twenty three, and Aspiration is going bankrupt. It's under federal 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.440 investigation by the end of that year. And so that deal, 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.160 I'll just remind people, was twenty eight million dollars under 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.440 contract for a no show endorsement deal that was never announced. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.640 If this is it's doning familiar, let me know. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.680 And also a twenty million dollar equity deal in the 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.920 company that was guaranteed to him. So that's forty eight 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.800 million dollars in total value that was guaranteed to Kawhi 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.720 Leonard on top of his NBA contract. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:21.680 And that's just that. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.280 But Aspiration, according to our reporting, is struggling to make 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.480 the payments in twenty twenty three, of course, and what 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.720 happens next is the story of these last two episodes 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.800 we've now done. And what's so interesting, Dan, And I'll 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.760 answer your question in this context. January twenty twenty four 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:44.080 comes around and Kawhi Leonard does something shocking to NBA media. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.600 Certainly he takes less than the max. And so if 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.840 you just put this all together, right, a guy who 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.240 truly is here to earn as much as he possibly 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.800 can and beyond, decides to take less from the Clippers 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.360 to extend and in January of twenty twenty four, while 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.720 also still being owed money from this team sponsor, Aspiration, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.560 which according to the bankruptcy filing we obtained, owes him 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.920 at least seven million dollars. And so why and how 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.160 does he do that? Is what leads me to the 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.520 story of Daktronics. And so we don't know how many 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.320 millions of dollars we're in the Daktronics deal. We are actively, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.720 of course, interested in finding that number. But when you're 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.400 talking about what was he paid beyond the cap, we're 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.840 talking about the largest alleged salary caps or convention scheme 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.360 in the history of sports. Right, We're talking about something 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.040 that ranges into the fifty plus million dollars, if that 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.920 would be a reasonable projection beyond what he was allowed 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.600 to be paid. That's just based on inferences on our reporting. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.160 Which brings me to when you request to speak to 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.280 the Clippers owner Steve Balmer, the response is what. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.520 The Clippers have stopped responding to our request for comment. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.400 We tell them what's going to be in the episodes. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.240 For months now they've stopped responding. They used to say 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.080 stuff like this is all provably false. And I've learned 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.240 in the story Dan that words are very carefully chosen 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.200 by lawyers. I didn't go to law school, didn't make 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.400 it to that point, but I've been told that words 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:16.000 are important in legal proceedings. Provably false is a big claim, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.800 and it's been it's August seventh, I believe, and it's 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.000 been eleven to twelve months, right, a year almost that 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.480 we've been waiting to show how this is provably false. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:30.160 What I started reporting with aspiration, that's now into a 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.040 second hidden sponsorship. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:33.199 And so we. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.679 Always ask, and what's so interesting about this story? Because 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.640 request for comment is really important to us to get 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.600 it right. We went to Daktronics. We went to the 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:46.720 company itself and asked all of these questions. And what 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:52.599 our colleague and collaborator, Sam Koppleman learned is that Daktronics 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.240 wanted a The first response was, here's our general counsel 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.400 talk to them. And Kawhi Leonard had not even been 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.480 mentioned yet, so it's like, okay, so something already. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:02.320 They're on alert. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.839 Then they send us to a crisis comms firm, and 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.520 you love when those enter the room because apparently there's 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.960 now a crisis, and we still are wondering what do 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.920 they think the crisis is, because we have a sense, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.560 but we haven't even started talking about that yet. And 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.800 that crisis comes from and this is really important. They 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.120 say two things that I want to quote for you here. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.400 One is quote, my understanding is Daktronics doesn't have a 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:30.400 deal with Kawhi right now, and I think the tense 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.800 of right now is a useful thing to handle a 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.160 lantern on for a second here, So right now is 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.080 the tense that they stand behind on the record. The 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.240 second sentence they say is, quote, I don't know what 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.560 the company. This is the crisis comes firm. I don't 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.840 know what the company Daktronics wants to say or can say, 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.840 given the Walk Tell investigation. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.360 End quote, and that is the crisis. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.480 Comms firm volunteering the name of the law firm that 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.600 the NBA hired to invest gate the Clippers for secret 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.640 no show sponsorships for Kawhi Leonard. And so at this 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:08.319 point you're like, Okay, you're realizing this is of great 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.479 interest to Dectronics. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:10.800 They're familiar with this investigation. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.720 In fact, they've been managing the crisis of it before 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.959 we called. And so now when it comes to getting 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.599 questions and responses about did you have any proof that 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.120 Kawi did anything? How much was the deal for, when 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.240 did it start, there is no further comment or response. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.120 I'm wondering, though, how this plays out if these things 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:36.360 are true. The NBA. You start with, Steve Balmer, I 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.760 don't know what you can do with Kawhi Leonard, but 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.000 give me the scenario or scenarios that you think that 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.400 how this plays out. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.040 Yeah, so all of this got phenomenally I think concrete 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:52.880 and tangible. When the trade Kawhi Leonard is traded from 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.160 the Clippers to the Raptors to the team by the 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.520 way that originally alleged in twenty nineteen that Kawhi Leonard 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.840 and Dennis Robertson his uncle unlicensed agent, had requested benefits 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.160 beyond the salary cap in violation. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.200 Of the CBA. These include no show jobs. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.680 These include equity in the companies that they were hoping 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.439 to get in business with through the team. So the Raptors, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.520 I say that to say, the Raptors know the backstage 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:22.080 of this with unusual clarity, as that timeline twenty nineteen 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.720 is concerned, and so they want a trade for Kawhi Leonard. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.160 But what happens is, of course the trade is frozen. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.920 And what I've been told and what has now been reported, 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.199 is that the change is that the NBA puts in 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.599 front of the Raptors a piece of paper that effectively 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:41.000 indemnifies the NBA, the league itself, and the Clippers from 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:45.960 any legal resource or negotiation if there are punishments specific 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.760 to Kawhi Leonard, because those punishments will travel with the 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:53.000 player to Toronto. If you pay X, you're getting whatever 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:58.040 Kawhi ends up being post punishment, And the Raptors, in 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.600 their perhaps eternal wisdom and this backdrop, say then we're 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.559 not signing this and therefore the trade is not proceeding, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.800 and so that trade has been frozen for weeks obviously, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.280 and so the question of like what happens next is 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.040 when is this ruling gonna come down? Will this ruling 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.400 speak to the things that I've been publicly reporting, that 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.160 have been vetted by now of course months of careful 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:25.080 investigation in multiple sources. Will that ruling speak to those things? 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:29.000 Will there be a punishment, Will the raptors want to 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.800 proceed with this deal? And if there is a punishment 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.400 beyond Kawhi Leonard, because again that's specific to Kawhi alone, 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.720 how does this possibly avoid touching the richest owner in 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.560 American sports? Steve Bober, the guy who was across every 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.960 bit of this, and Dan, perhaps in the superlative I 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.560 gave him, you can detect some of the cynicism and 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.400 the concern that when you're the richest owner in American sports, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:57.400 the game you're playing, even in legal recourse and certainly punishment, 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.679 it is different from even the normal billionaires that you 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.079 might have to deal with as commissioner. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:11.160 Has the NBA's investigators talked to you? They reached out 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.200 months ago. I met with them. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.920 I handed them a bunch of paperwork, particular to aspiration, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:24.760 signed contracts, financial documents, and I encourage them to take 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.280 all of it as seriously as they can, because I 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.080 think there's a lot more here. Even then I can 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.280 get to as a guy who has you know, Dan 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.800 Lebetard as his bleeping boss and one lawyer helping me. 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:38.680 So we don't. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:43.280 Exactly have the resources of a multinational, you know, enterprise. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.880 But I think that walktell In listening to the podcast, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.560 has a lot to go on, and my hope is 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.000 that they're doing exactly that. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:59.880 Any chance Steve Baumer is in jeopardy of losing the 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.400 Clippers being able to own them. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.680 I think the question is an Adam Silver question, right, 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.800 And this is what's so interesting. Adam Silver is not 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.440 his mentor, David Stern. Adam Silver is actually the guy 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.600 who welcomes Steve balmer In in replacement of Donald Sterling 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:22.480 and was hailed as this almost Aristotelian, brilliant progressive leader 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.280 in comparison to all the other commissioners Roger Goodell namely 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.800 at that time. And so now he is bookending perhaps 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:34.280 his tenure with the same guy being an even bigger problem, 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.160 a complicated problem, and so if you're Adam Silver and 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.880 in twenty nineteen when you cleared the Clippers and Steve 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.520 Balmer of cap cir convention after investigating the Raptors claims 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.880 and the Lakers claims, what you've done, by the way 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.800 on the record to say salary caps or convention is 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.000 the cardinal rule of the NBA. And I think underpinning 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.960 all of this Dan the moment we're in with sports 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.440 gambling as the NBA balances a gambling scandal, an investigation 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.560 that we've been covering on the show as well, when 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.240 they're balancing all of the other caps airt convention theories 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.120 out there. Gary Trent Junior as being the latest hypothesis 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.760 someone has is the question of whether the rules matter 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.800 and if you break the rules as have been alleged 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.800 by multiple episodes here of my show and now elsewhere, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.800 the question is, how do you possibly make it so 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.560 that the cardinal rule is actually treated like it and 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:30.520 so by any standard of fake NBA law because these 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.840 are all fake laws. These are all collectively bargain rules 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.760 that you got to enforce. I think everything should be 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.920 on the table realistically in terms of the money and 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.600 if you follow it I think there's a very real 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:47.880 chance that Steve Baumer emerges relatively unscathed, which is kind 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.960 of insane to me according to my reporting. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.880 Great stuff, Pablo, thanks for joining us as always, and 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.120 good luck with Dan Levittard. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.280 I'm gonna need all of it Dan, as you know 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.040 with him, so appreciate it. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:07.639 Pablo Tory finds out with meadow Lark Media. We'll take 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.800 a break here. Rick new Heisel, former college coach, now 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.479 an analyst. He's got some things to answer, including how 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.119 would he feel if he was the head coach at 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:20.800 Florida Purdue and his athletic director came out and started 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.200 firing some slings and arrows at Indiana Football. Rick's gone 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.160 through this before himself. Take a break. 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Check us out 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.280 on YouTube and subscribed. 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.640 I'm looking at the latest Super Bowl odds by DraftKings. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.399 The Rams are an overwhelming favorite plus five point fifty. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.760 Then it's the Bills and the Ravens at plus one thousand, 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:27.360 the defending champion Seahawks plus eleven hundred. Then it's the Eagles, Patriots, 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.840 and Chiefs all at plus sixteen hundred. I think if 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:33.840 I was going to try to make some money off this, 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.879 I'd probably look at the Eagles, and I'd look at 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.120 the Lions as well. I don't know what the Lions 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.679 odds are, Dylan, if you could check on that. But 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:48.040 you got everybody back, everybody's healthy, everybody's in camp, and man, 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.040 they take care of their players. When you look at 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:58.720 extending their players, They've done this on a consistent basis, Yes, Dylan, Yeah. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.840 So the Lions are nineteen to one to win, tied 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.200 with the forty nine ers. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.920 Okay, all right, I don't know if you guys want 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.560 to get down on that, but I kind of like 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.919 the Lions as an underdog this year. Anybody with me 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:15.280 on that? 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.679 Yes, Dylan, Yeah, I think a light dusting might be 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.560 in order on the Lions. 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:27.120 Yeah, Sprinkle. If you look at the Lions, they they 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.680 produce on draft night. So, Jamiir Gibbs, he just got extended. 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.159 Aiden Hutchinson got extended, Jack Campbell got extended. I'm on 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.680 Ross Saint Brown got extended, Penney Sewell got extended, Jamison 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:43.359 Williams got extended, Kirby Joseph got extended. I mean that 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:47.800 is an impressive track record of drafting players and you know, 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.000 keeping them and extending them, giving them another contract. Yeah, Paul. 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:53.720 And if you go back to that draft where they 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.680 took Jack Campbell the middle linebacker and Jamiir Gibbs higher 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.000 than he should have been, they got critiqued for those. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:06.680 Decisions, criticized. Yes, Rick Neuheisel set to join us. Before 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.880 he does, I want to play the sound from the 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:15.840 Purdue athletic director and where he's calling out Indiana sports. 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:21.639 Every recruit, every current student athlete will hear this message repeatedly. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.560 We are here to win championships. If you don't want 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:32.919 to win championships, go to Indiana. Okay, that's Tommy McClellan, 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:38.199 the Purdue athletic director, being introduced as the perdue athletic director. 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:42.040 It's spent I think twenty years at Rice Springing. Rick 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:46.520 new Heisel, former college coach at UCLA and Washington and Colorado, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.239 now a CBS analyst. How would you feel if your 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.080 Purdue's head coach, Barry Odom after you hear that from 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:54.159 your athletic director. 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.720 I feel exactly like I did what I was at 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.160 UCLA and Peak Harrold had things going at sc and 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.959 they put out a full page ad the La Times 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:10.280 the monopoly is over. I was like, hey, easy now, 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.679 easy now, Yeah, it is a one way to start. 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.280 Tommy's not afraid. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.400 But were you told about the ad in the La 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:22.760 Times the monopo Oh? 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:28.200 I was actually I was actually apologized to We don't 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.280 need to put that kind of heat on you. I said, hey, 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.440 let's own it. Let's go, but let's get the resources. 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.400 Don't take a knife to a gunfight. Let's so we'll 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.360 see how Barryodam does, hopefully better than he did when 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.359 he was aboard that bowl, when he was in Las Vegas. 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.480 How how did u CLA do against USC that year? 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:53.240 Not well, twenty eight seven got stuffed. Yeah, it was unfortunate. 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.840 We didn't exactly have the resources. I called out the 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.120 coaches earlier this week. You know, you have the Coach's Poll, 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.639 and I said, the people who watch the least amount 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:09.000 of college football are coaches, because you can't. You only 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.880 care about the opponent you had and the opponent coming up. 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:16.120 Who voted when you were at UCLA, Washington, Colorado? Who 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:17.840 voted in the coaches poll for you? 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.080 It was always our sports information guy. 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:26.720 It was Dave Platty at Colorado, Mark Dellen's at UCLA, 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:32.119 Jim Daves at Washington, those guys, you know, keeping track. 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:33.720 They'd bring me a list. 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.720 I'd say, we'll move these guys one spot and away 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:37.120 we go. 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:40.600 Because you're right, there is no time to. 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:45.560 Spend surveying everybody else in the country. You've got to 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:46.840 just look after your own. 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:49.280 Yeah, because you don't want to walk into a press 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.280 conference and have somebody blindside you and say why did 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.000 this school get a first place vote from you and 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:57.600 you not be aware of it? 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:01.720 No, exactly right, and now that they put your name 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.199 on it. At the end, maybe you better know exactly 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.040 what the hell went on that list, but yeah, you 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:08.120 don't have time for that. 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:09.880 That is absolutely correct. 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.040 Let me go back to Indiana and the run that 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.840