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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Meet Friday. Pablo Torre, He's uncovered
Speaker 2: more Kawhi Leonard's secrets. Apparently he'll join us momentarily. Rick
Speaker 2: new Heisel, college football analyst, will join us. We'll talk
Speaker 2: about a couple of things, including coaches who don't necessarily
Speaker 2: do the research to vote in the Coaches Poll, but
Speaker 2: we do place a whole lot of emphasis on that.
Speaker 2: And we'll talk to Rick. He had three different stops, Colorado, UCLA,
Speaker 2: and Washington. Did he actually do all the fact finding
Speaker 2: when he voted in the College Football Coaches Poll? Also,
Speaker 2: I got to bring out the athletic director at Perdue
Speaker 2: and how would he feel if he was the head
Speaker 2: coach at Purdue and your athletic directors basically calling out Indiana,
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Speaker 2: I just saw this. This is from John Rand. He
Speaker 2: is a well respected media insider. He keeps an eye
Speaker 2: on sports TV. He works for Puck and apparently he
Speaker 2: spoke with several sports media executives, The consensus across the
Speaker 2: industry is Tony Romo won't be back with CBS. Now,
Speaker 2: this is you know, research of asking people their opinions.
Speaker 2: I just care about what CBS says, because you could
Speaker 2: have somebody from Fox or ESPN say, oh, I don't
Speaker 2: think he'll be back. I want to know what CBS
Speaker 2: thinks because had this been early in Tony Romo's broadcasting career,
Speaker 2: they're not getting rid of Tony Romo. But I think
Speaker 2: because that he's been taking some hits by the media
Speaker 2: and his approach to the game maybe being as thorough
Speaker 2: as he once was, that's why he is vulnerable. So
Speaker 2: seventy two million dollars over the last four years of
Speaker 2: his contract, and there's going to be other analysts who
Speaker 2: are going to be available, because I think you've got
Speaker 2: some free agents here in the waiting. CBS is probably
Speaker 2: going to go with JJ Watt at least this first
Speaker 2: upcoming season, pair him with Nance and Tracy Wolfson. But
Speaker 2: if you start to look at a bigger picture here,
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen, Troy Aikman, and Kirk Herbstreet all can be
Speaker 2: potential free agents after this upcoming season. So CBS could
Speaker 2: have options if they need options with Tony Romo. I
Speaker 2: would hope he would get another chance after something like that.
Speaker 2: Certainly embarrassing for him, but looks like CBS the consensus
Speaker 2: is that they will not have Tony Romo back. Pablo
Speaker 2: Tory uncovers Kawhi Leonard's other hidden secret sponsorship. Here tonight,
Speaker 2: Pablo Tory finds out releases its latest installment of the
Speaker 2: saga that continues to linger here over the Clippers and
Speaker 2: the NBA. All right, so what's the update here and
Speaker 2: what does that mean bigger picture?
Speaker 6: Pablo Hi Dan, we are brought together once again by
Speaker 6: an alleged secret sponsorship deal for Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 7: Always good to.
Speaker 2: See you like this.
Speaker 6: What we're reporting is that two days after I published
Speaker 6: Part one of mine now thirteen part investigation, which I say,
Speaker 6: knowing how ridiculous that sounds, I'll fully cop to it.
Speaker 6: This is a thirteen part serialized novel at this point,
Speaker 6: but it's actually an investigation right as an investigative series.
Speaker 6: And two days after we dropped part one, what happened
Speaker 6: was I got a tip saying that there is another
Speaker 6: secret sponsorship for Kawhi Leonard, that was one thousand percent.
Speaker 6: That is a quote, one thousand percent designed to circumvent
Speaker 6: the salary cap. And I've spent the last eleven months
Speaker 6: trying to fact check that, confirm it, further report the
Speaker 6: story of why that would be, how it would be,
Speaker 6: And it turns out that yes, according to our reporting,
Speaker 6: we have two sources, two high level sources, one who
Speaker 6: was under contract with the Clippers into a dome project,
Speaker 6: the other a former Clippers high level source. They both
Speaker 6: say that the JumboTron manufacturer, Daktronics, which you may not
Speaker 6: know by name, but you certainly know by sight, Dan,
Speaker 6: why are you laughing? Jumbo tron manufacturers are very very famous.
Speaker 6: Obviously this one, this one is the one that built
Speaker 6: the Halo board. This is the one hundred million dollar
Speaker 6: project that Steve Baumer built to create the greatest jumbo
Speaker 6: tron and human history. And Kawhi Leonard, accord to our reporting,
Speaker 6: had a secret, unannounced no evidence that he did anything
Speaker 6: for it, multimillion dollar sponsorship for that company, which and
Speaker 6: I'll just beg one more bit of time here, because
Speaker 6: Daktronics had never hired a celebrity spokesperson or sponsor or
Speaker 6: endorser or partner like this before or since, and so
Speaker 6: hard to explain Otherwise I would.
Speaker 2: Say, given these sponsorship deals and his salary, how much
Speaker 2: money was Kawhin Leonard making a year?
Speaker 7: Well, it is.
Speaker 6: It's a number that we're constantly chasing, and that is
Speaker 6: constantly changing, which is why we chase it.
Speaker 7: Look, he was, of course a max player in the NBA.
Speaker 6: What's interesting though, in that this timeframe we're talking about
Speaker 6: is actually after Aspiration collapses. So we're looking at twenty
Speaker 6: twenty three, and Aspiration is going bankrupt. It's under federal
Speaker 6: investigation by the end of that year. And so that deal,
Speaker 6: I'll just remind people, was twenty eight million dollars under
Speaker 6: contract for a no show endorsement deal that was never announced.
Speaker 7: If this is it's doning familiar, let me know.
Speaker 6: And also a twenty million dollar equity deal in the
Speaker 6: company that was guaranteed to him. So that's forty eight
Speaker 6: million dollars in total value that was guaranteed to Kawhi
Speaker 6: Leonard on top of his NBA contract.
Speaker 7: And that's just that.
Speaker 6: But Aspiration, according to our reporting, is struggling to make
Speaker 6: the payments in twenty twenty three, of course, and what
Speaker 6: happens next is the story of these last two episodes
Speaker 6: we've now done. And what's so interesting, Dan, And I'll
Speaker 6: answer your question in this context. January twenty twenty four
Speaker 6: comes around and Kawhi Leonard does something shocking to NBA media.
Speaker 6: Certainly he takes less than the max. And so if
Speaker 6: you just put this all together, right, a guy who
Speaker 6: truly is here to earn as much as he possibly
Speaker 6: can and beyond, decides to take less from the Clippers
Speaker 6: to extend and in January of twenty twenty four, while
Speaker 6: also still being owed money from this team sponsor, Aspiration,
Speaker 6: which according to the bankruptcy filing we obtained, owes him
Speaker 6: at least seven million dollars. And so why and how
Speaker 6: does he do that? Is what leads me to the
Speaker 6: story of Daktronics. And so we don't know how many
Speaker 6: millions of dollars we're in the Daktronics deal. We are actively,
Speaker 6: of course, interested in finding that number. But when you're
Speaker 6: talking about what was he paid beyond the cap, we're
Speaker 6: talking about the largest alleged salary caps or convention scheme
Speaker 6: in the history of sports. Right, We're talking about something
Speaker 6: that ranges into the fifty plus million dollars, if that
Speaker 6: would be a reasonable projection beyond what he was allowed
Speaker 6: to be paid. That's just based on inferences on our reporting.
Speaker 2: Which brings me to when you request to speak to
Speaker 2: the Clippers owner Steve Balmer, the response is what.
Speaker 6: The Clippers have stopped responding to our request for comment.
Speaker 6: We tell them what's going to be in the episodes.
Speaker 6: For months now they've stopped responding. They used to say
Speaker 6: stuff like this is all provably false. And I've learned
Speaker 6: in the story Dan that words are very carefully chosen
Speaker 6: by lawyers. I didn't go to law school, didn't make
Speaker 6: it to that point, but I've been told that words
Speaker 6: are important in legal proceedings. Provably false is a big claim,
Speaker 6: and it's been it's August seventh, I believe, and it's
Speaker 6: been eleven to twelve months, right, a year almost that
Speaker 6: we've been waiting to show how this is provably false.
Speaker 6: What I started reporting with aspiration, that's now into a
Speaker 6: second hidden sponsorship.
Speaker 2: And so we.
Speaker 6: Always ask, and what's so interesting about this story? Because
Speaker 6: request for comment is really important to us to get
Speaker 6: it right. We went to Daktronics. We went to the
Speaker 6: company itself and asked all of these questions. And what
Speaker 6: our colleague and collaborator, Sam Koppleman learned is that Daktronics
Speaker 6: wanted a The first response was, here's our general counsel
Speaker 6: talk to them. And Kawhi Leonard had not even been
Speaker 6: mentioned yet, so it's like, okay, so something already.
Speaker 2: They're on alert.
Speaker 6: Then they send us to a crisis comms firm, and
Speaker 6: you love when those enter the room because apparently there's
Speaker 6: now a crisis, and we still are wondering what do
Speaker 6: they think the crisis is, because we have a sense,
Speaker 6: but we haven't even started talking about that yet. And
Speaker 6: that crisis comes from and this is really important. They
Speaker 6: say two things that I want to quote for you here.
Speaker 6: One is quote, my understanding is Daktronics doesn't have a
Speaker 6: deal with Kawhi right now, and I think the tense
Speaker 6: of right now is a useful thing to handle a
Speaker 6: lantern on for a second here, So right now is
Speaker 6: the tense that they stand behind on the record. The
Speaker 6: second sentence they say is, quote, I don't know what
Speaker 6: the company. This is the crisis comes firm. I don't
Speaker 6: know what the company Daktronics wants to say or can say,
Speaker 6: given the Walk Tell investigation.
Speaker 7: End quote, and that is the crisis.
Speaker 6: Comms firm volunteering the name of the law firm that
Speaker 6: the NBA hired to invest gate the Clippers for secret
Speaker 6: no show sponsorships for Kawhi Leonard. And so at this
Speaker 6: point you're like, Okay, you're realizing this is of great
Speaker 6: interest to Dectronics.
Speaker 7: They're familiar with this investigation.
Speaker 6: In fact, they've been managing the crisis of it before
Speaker 6: we called. And so now when it comes to getting
Speaker 6: questions and responses about did you have any proof that
Speaker 6: Kawi did anything? How much was the deal for, when
Speaker 6: did it start, there is no further comment or response.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, though, how this plays out if these things
Speaker 2: are true. The NBA. You start with, Steve Balmer, I
Speaker 2: don't know what you can do with Kawhi Leonard, but
Speaker 2: give me the scenario or scenarios that you think that
Speaker 2: how this plays out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so all of this got phenomenally I think concrete
Speaker 6: and tangible. When the trade Kawhi Leonard is traded from
Speaker 6: the Clippers to the Raptors to the team by the
Speaker 6: way that originally alleged in twenty nineteen that Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 6: and Dennis Robertson his uncle unlicensed agent, had requested benefits
Speaker 6: beyond the salary cap in violation.
Speaker 7: Of the CBA. These include no show jobs.
Speaker 6: These include equity in the companies that they were hoping
Speaker 6: to get in business with through the team. So the Raptors,
Speaker 6: I say that to say, the Raptors know the backstage
Speaker 6: of this with unusual clarity, as that timeline twenty nineteen
Speaker 6: is concerned, and so they want a trade for Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 6: But what happens is, of course the trade is frozen.
Speaker 6: And what I've been told and what has now been reported,
Speaker 6: is that the change is that the NBA puts in
Speaker 6: front of the Raptors a piece of paper that effectively
Speaker 6: indemnifies the NBA, the league itself, and the Clippers from
Speaker 6: any legal resource or negotiation if there are punishments specific
Speaker 6: to Kawhi Leonard, because those punishments will travel with the
Speaker 6: player to Toronto. If you pay X, you're getting whatever
Speaker 6: Kawhi ends up being post punishment, And the Raptors, in
Speaker 6: their perhaps eternal wisdom and this backdrop, say then we're
Speaker 6: not signing this and therefore the trade is not proceeding,
Speaker 6: and so that trade has been frozen for weeks obviously,
Speaker 6: and so the question of like what happens next is
Speaker 6: when is this ruling gonna come down? Will this ruling
Speaker 6: speak to the things that I've been publicly reporting, that
Speaker 6: have been vetted by now of course months of careful
Speaker 6: investigation in multiple sources. Will that ruling speak to those things?
Speaker 6: Will there be a punishment, Will the raptors want to
Speaker 6: proceed with this deal? And if there is a punishment
Speaker 6: beyond Kawhi Leonard, because again that's specific to Kawhi alone,
Speaker 6: how does this possibly avoid touching the richest owner in
Speaker 6: American sports? Steve Bober, the guy who was across every
Speaker 6: bit of this, and Dan, perhaps in the superlative I
Speaker 6: gave him, you can detect some of the cynicism and
Speaker 6: the concern that when you're the richest owner in American sports,
Speaker 6: the game you're playing, even in legal recourse and certainly punishment,
Speaker 6: it is different from even the normal billionaires that you
Speaker 6: might have to deal with as commissioner.
Speaker 2: Has the NBA's investigators talked to you? They reached out
Speaker 2: months ago. I met with them.
Speaker 6: I handed them a bunch of paperwork, particular to aspiration,
Speaker 6: signed contracts, financial documents, and I encourage them to take
Speaker 6: all of it as seriously as they can, because I
Speaker 6: think there's a lot more here. Even then I can
Speaker 6: get to as a guy who has you know, Dan
Speaker 6: Lebetard as his bleeping boss and one lawyer helping me.
Speaker 8: So we don't.
Speaker 6: Exactly have the resources of a multinational, you know, enterprise.
Speaker 6: But I think that walktell In listening to the podcast,
Speaker 6: has a lot to go on, and my hope is
Speaker 6: that they're doing exactly that.
Speaker 2: Any chance Steve Baumer is in jeopardy of losing the
Speaker 2: Clippers being able to own them.
Speaker 6: I think the question is an Adam Silver question, right,
Speaker 6: And this is what's so interesting. Adam Silver is not
Speaker 6: his mentor, David Stern. Adam Silver is actually the guy
Speaker 6: who welcomes Steve balmer In in replacement of Donald Sterling
Speaker 6: and was hailed as this almost Aristotelian, brilliant progressive leader
Speaker 6: in comparison to all the other commissioners Roger Goodell namely
Speaker 6: at that time. And so now he is bookending perhaps
Speaker 6: his tenure with the same guy being an even bigger problem,
Speaker 6: a complicated problem, and so if you're Adam Silver and
Speaker 6: in twenty nineteen when you cleared the Clippers and Steve
Speaker 6: Balmer of cap cir convention after investigating the Raptors claims
Speaker 6: and the Lakers claims, what you've done, by the way
Speaker 6: on the record to say salary caps or convention is
Speaker 6: the cardinal rule of the NBA. And I think underpinning
Speaker 6: all of this Dan the moment we're in with sports
Speaker 6: gambling as the NBA balances a gambling scandal, an investigation
Speaker 6: that we've been covering on the show as well, when
Speaker 6: they're balancing all of the other caps airt convention theories
Speaker 6: out there. Gary Trent Junior as being the latest hypothesis
Speaker 6: someone has is the question of whether the rules matter
Speaker 6: and if you break the rules as have been alleged
Speaker 6: by multiple episodes here of my show and now elsewhere,
Speaker 6: the question is, how do you possibly make it so
Speaker 6: that the cardinal rule is actually treated like it and
Speaker 6: so by any standard of fake NBA law because these
Speaker 6: are all fake laws. These are all collectively bargain rules
Speaker 6: that you got to enforce. I think everything should be
Speaker 6: on the table realistically in terms of the money and
Speaker 6: if you follow it I think there's a very real
Speaker 6: chance that Steve Baumer emerges relatively unscathed, which is kind
Speaker 6: of insane to me according to my reporting.
Speaker 2: Great stuff, Pablo, thanks for joining us as always, and
Speaker 2: good luck with Dan Levittard.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna need all of it Dan, as you know
Speaker 6: with him, so appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Pablo Tory finds out with meadow Lark Media. We'll take
Speaker 2: a break here. Rick new Heisel, former college coach, now
Speaker 2: an analyst. He's got some things to answer, including how
Speaker 2: would he feel if he was the head coach at
Speaker 2: Florida Purdue and his athletic director came out and started
Speaker 2: firing some slings and arrows at Indiana Football. Rick's gone
Speaker 2: through this before himself. Take a break. We're back after
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the latest Super Bowl odds by DraftKings.
Speaker 2: The Rams are an overwhelming favorite plus five point fifty.
Speaker 2: Then it's the Bills and the Ravens at plus one thousand,
Speaker 2: the defending champion Seahawks plus eleven hundred. Then it's the Eagles, Patriots,
Speaker 2: and Chiefs all at plus sixteen hundred. I think if
Speaker 2: I was going to try to make some money off this,
Speaker 2: I'd probably look at the Eagles, and I'd look at
Speaker 2: the Lions as well. I don't know what the Lions
Speaker 2: odds are, Dylan, if you could check on that. But
Speaker 2: you got everybody back, everybody's healthy, everybody's in camp, and man,
Speaker 2: they take care of their players. When you look at
Speaker 2: extending their players, They've done this on a consistent basis, Yes, Dylan, Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the Lions are nineteen to one to win, tied
Speaker 3: with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I don't know if you guys want
Speaker 2: to get down on that, but I kind of like
Speaker 2: the Lions as an underdog this year. Anybody with me
Speaker 2: on that?
Speaker 3: Yes, Dylan, Yeah, I think a light dusting might be
Speaker 3: in order on the Lions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sprinkle. If you look at the Lions, they they
Speaker 2: produce on draft night. So, Jamiir Gibbs, he just got extended.
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson got extended, Jack Campbell got extended. I'm on
Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown got extended, Penney Sewell got extended, Jamison
Speaker 2: Williams got extended, Kirby Joseph got extended. I mean that
Speaker 2: is an impressive track record of drafting players and you know,
Speaker 2: keeping them and extending them, giving them another contract. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: And if you go back to that draft where they
Speaker 5: took Jack Campbell the middle linebacker and Jamiir Gibbs higher
Speaker 5: than he should have been, they got critiqued for those.
Speaker 2: Decisions, criticized. Yes, Rick Neuheisel set to join us. Before
Speaker 2: he does, I want to play the sound from the
Speaker 2: Purdue athletic director and where he's calling out Indiana sports.
Speaker 4: Every recruit, every current student athlete will hear this message repeatedly.
Speaker 2: We are here to win championships. If you don't want
Speaker 2: to win championships, go to Indiana. Okay, that's Tommy McClellan,
Speaker 2: the Purdue athletic director, being introduced as the perdue athletic director.
Speaker 2: It's spent I think twenty years at Rice Springing. Rick
Speaker 2: new Heisel, former college coach at UCLA and Washington and Colorado,
Speaker 2: now a CBS analyst. How would you feel if your
Speaker 2: Purdue's head coach, Barry Odom after you hear that from
Speaker 2: your athletic director.
Speaker 4: I feel exactly like I did what I was at
Speaker 4: UCLA and Peak Harrold had things going at sc and
Speaker 4: they put out a full page ad the La Times
Speaker 4: the monopoly is over. I was like, hey, easy now,
Speaker 4: easy now, Yeah, it is a one way to start.
Speaker 4: Tommy's not afraid.
Speaker 2: But were you told about the ad in the La
Speaker 2: Times the monopo Oh?
Speaker 4: I was actually I was actually apologized to We don't
Speaker 4: need to put that kind of heat on you. I said, hey,
Speaker 4: let's own it. Let's go, but let's get the resources.
Speaker 4: Don't take a knife to a gunfight. Let's so we'll
Speaker 4: see how Barryodam does, hopefully better than he did when
Speaker 4: he was aboard that bowl, when he was in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: How how did u CLA do against USC that year?
Speaker 4: Not well, twenty eight seven got stuffed. Yeah, it was unfortunate.
Speaker 4: We didn't exactly have the resources. I called out the
Speaker 4: coaches earlier this week. You know, you have the Coach's Poll,
Speaker 4: and I said, the people who watch the least amount
Speaker 4: of college football are coaches, because you can't. You only
Speaker 4: care about the opponent you had and the opponent coming up.
Speaker 4: Who voted when you were at UCLA, Washington, Colorado? Who
Speaker 4: voted in the coaches poll for you?
Speaker 8: It was always our sports information guy.
Speaker 4: It was Dave Platty at Colorado, Mark Dellen's at UCLA,
Speaker 4: Jim Daves at Washington, those guys, you know, keeping track.
Speaker 8: They'd bring me a list.
Speaker 4: I'd say, we'll move these guys one spot and away
Speaker 4: we go.
Speaker 8: Because you're right, there is no time to.
Speaker 4: Spend surveying everybody else in the country. You've got to
Speaker 4: just look after your own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't want to walk into a press
Speaker 2: conference and have somebody blindside you and say why did
Speaker 2: this school get a first place vote from you and
Speaker 2: you not be aware of it?
Speaker 4: No, exactly right, and now that they put your name
Speaker 4: on it. At the end, maybe you better know exactly
Speaker 4: what the hell went on that list, but yeah, you
Speaker 4: don't have time for that.
Speaker 8: That is absolutely correct.
Speaker 2: Let me go back to Indiana and the run that
Speaker 2: they had. How sustainable is this?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not gonna put anything past Kurt Signetti because
Speaker 4: what he's done has been incredible.
Speaker 8: The Church of Signetti is full.
Speaker 4: Parishioners come from far and wide now to watch what
Speaker 4: is taking place there. The Mendoza story is one for
Speaker 4: the ages. The sixteen and o story is one for
Speaker 4: the ages. I can't remember a more surprising something happening
Speaker 4: in sport than that that was in my lifetime.
Speaker 8: That was just incredible.
Speaker 4: You know, the Indiana program that was worse, had more
Speaker 4: losses than anybody else in the history of college football.
Speaker 4: To go sixteen and oh and win against the formidable
Speaker 4: teams that they just and to beat Alabama thirty eight
Speaker 4: to three. I actually said thirty five to three when
Speaker 4: I had Signetti in the chair at the Big Ten
Speaker 4: media days, and he corrected me, thirty eight to three.
Speaker 8: Yeah, don't take that field goal from me.
Speaker 4: Oregon and then Miami in Miami, it is a run
Speaker 4: for the age. Is remarkable to say the least brought
Speaker 4: I think they. I think I think Hoover's, you know,
Speaker 4: reasonable replacement for Mendoza. We'll see if he can keep
Speaker 4: from having the the errant you know, turnover. If he
Speaker 4: if he if he cleans that up, they're going to
Speaker 4: be They're gonna be good again.
Speaker 2: Talking to former coach Rick Neuheisel, CBS Sports College Football analyst,
Speaker 2: I was mentioning the coaches top ten and I was
Speaker 2: putting price tags their roster next to their ranking. Right,
Speaker 2: you got to be spending at least forty million. Some
Speaker 2: next year we're going to be knocking on the door
Speaker 2: going past fifty million dollars. The return on investment, Like,
Speaker 2: how sustainable is this for these schools to be spending
Speaker 2: this kind of money.
Speaker 8: Well, that's a fascinating question.
Speaker 4: I think we're going to be in a survival of
Speaker 4: the fittest until the new television contracts come up, which
Speaker 4: is around twenty thirty. I think we're just in an
Speaker 4: era where we're just dealing with that. You can see
Speaker 4: that private equity is kind of sniffing around. You see
Speaker 4: the stories out of LSU and what they're talking about
Speaker 4: doing down there. I think everybody's having these conversations. We
Speaker 4: can't go very much longer. The numbers are going crazy.
Speaker 4: Brian Kelly just joined us at CBS. He says the
Speaker 4: numbers at noted aimer fifty million. So and he's sitting
Speaker 4: there going, I couldn't get a penny out of them
Speaker 4: for a long time while I was sitting there trying
Speaker 4: to get facilities built.
Speaker 8: But it is.
Speaker 4: A wild wild West, as it's been dubbed many times.
Speaker 8: It's crazy out there.
Speaker 2: Well, the President urging Congress to pass the Protect College
Speaker 2: Sports Act before recess here, how important is that act
Speaker 2: to pass?
Speaker 8: I think it's a huge deal.
Speaker 4: And now that the big ten in the SEC have
Speaker 4: put their endorsement on the bill, it would be wonderful
Speaker 4: to get that done. But it has to happen today
Speaker 4: because they go on recess this afternoon, and if they
Speaker 4: don't get that done, there's going to be other things
Speaker 4: that are more important when they come back with the
Speaker 4: midterms coming up.
Speaker 2: I saw where you were working with Brendan Sorosby, the
Speaker 2: former quarterback of Texas Tech. Now I don't know what
Speaker 2: working means. I know that your former college quarterback and
Speaker 2: you coach quarterbacks in the NFL. How are you or
Speaker 2: were you working with Brendan Soorsby.
Speaker 8: All I did then is I reached out to him.
Speaker 4: I felt terribly for how he had become in the
Speaker 4: eye of the storm, you know, the kind of the
Speaker 4: focal point. I think the bigger issue obviously he did
Speaker 4: something that was wrong. Can't bet on your own team.
Speaker 4: He didn't do it while he was playing. He had
Speaker 4: a phone where he got into it and you know,
Speaker 4: started betting on balls and strikes, and you know it,
Speaker 4: got away from it and hopefully that's behind him. But
Speaker 4: I remember having been kind of put into the public
Speaker 4: scorn for having been in a basketball pool, and I
Speaker 4: became very bitter about who would you know, throw me
Speaker 4: to the wolves for doing something that's so commonplace. And
Speaker 4: I just wanted to tell Brennan and his father that
Speaker 4: bitterness only impacts you. Just just just move on. There'll
Speaker 4: be a better day, and you just got to be
Speaker 4: confident that that day will come. And I'm hoping that
Speaker 4: he can get to the Senior Bowl a year from now,
Speaker 4: that he can get to uh, you know, the im
Speaker 4: by and show his wares. And obviously I'm coaching in
Speaker 4: that UFL if we're a place that he wanted to go.
Speaker 4: Remember Hunter Decker's the kid who couldn't play at Iowa
Speaker 4: State any longer for a similar deal, ended up being
Speaker 4: a quarterback in Houston for Kevin someone. And now I
Speaker 4: think he's in the New Orleans Saints camp, so there's
Speaker 4: going to be a better day for him. I just
Speaker 4: wanted to reach out and say, you know, this isn't
Speaker 4: so much about you. It was about all that was
Speaker 4: going on. There was a little bit of jealousy about
Speaker 4: how much money Texas Tech had, and so it became
Speaker 4: a big story that he just happened to be the target.
Speaker 4: And I just wanted him to know there will be
Speaker 4: better days. Don't get caught up and who got you?
Speaker 8: Just move on.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I suggested, just like I did to Pete Rose, if
Speaker 2: you want to give back, you want to show an
Speaker 2: act of contrition. Volunteer to go around to colleges and
Speaker 2: even high schools and just say and have people film it,
Speaker 2: like you can make this some positive if you want to.
Speaker 2: Pete never did that, and I believe if he had
Speaker 2: done that, falling on his sword, he probably would have
Speaker 2: gotten on the ballot to go into the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe Soresby gets a chance, you know, to
Speaker 2: prove that he can still play football.
Speaker 4: He's a nice kid. I enjoyed talking to him. His
Speaker 4: father is a nice guy. I'm hopeful that that can
Speaker 4: be the case. And you know, he actually wanted to
Speaker 4: stay for a time at Texas Tech and be the
Speaker 4: scout team quarterback, but it felt like he was going
Speaker 4: to be two munchs of a distraction. So he's just
Speaker 4: working out and fingers crossed that something good happens for
Speaker 4: him here down alone and if it was a gambling addiction,
Speaker 4: that that's behind him.
Speaker 2: The most pressure to win this year? Which college coach
Speaker 2: would you say, I'm looking at you.
Speaker 4: Or there's a lot of pressure on Lincoln Riley because
Speaker 4: the Trojans have never been to the college Football Playoff
Speaker 4: and they feel like they've got all the pieces this year,
Speaker 4: you know, they have to get back into the elite
Speaker 4: category where I think the Trojan fans believe they should
Speaker 4: be a lot of pressure on in my mind, Steve's
Speaker 4: Sarkeesian because Texas has everything. I would say the same
Speaker 4: at for Dan Lanning with Dante Moore coming back, but
Speaker 4: maybe the most pressure given the schedule, given what is
Speaker 4: going on is Notre Dame. Marcus Freeman has it all.
Speaker 4: He's got this CJ. Carr, who everybody said at the
Speaker 4: Manning Passing Academy was the best guy there, and he's
Speaker 4: got a schedule that might be as ready made. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's supposed to be like a double digit favorite until
Speaker 4: November Miami comes to town.
Speaker 8: That's going to be an epic game.
Speaker 4: If you beat him in front of the home crowd,
Speaker 4: then you go to BYU and then you have SMU
Speaker 4: coming to town. We'll wait and see what the Mustangs
Speaker 4: look like. But that's a schedule that's manageable. It'll be
Speaker 4: interesting to see. And if Marcus Freeman manages it and
Speaker 4: keeps that nor theirn Illinois game from happening, the Irish
Speaker 4: are going to be right there.
Speaker 2: I'd say, Lane Kiffin, you know that game against Old
Speaker 2: miss now, I know.
Speaker 4: My goodness, don't you want to just walk in with
Speaker 4: him to the grove now?
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going to happen. When I'm
Speaker 2: going to steer clear, I'm going to be as far
Speaker 2: away from Lane when he watched in that.
Speaker 4: That is going to be the most anticipated pregame in
Speaker 4: the history of football.
Speaker 2: He'll eat it up.
Speaker 8: He'll eat it up.
Speaker 2: We'll talk soon.
Speaker 8: Thanks, abut the all the best, buddy.
Speaker 2: It's Rick new Heisel. Yeah, I forgot about that when
Speaker 2: he was with UCLA. And you have the rivalry, or
Speaker 2: at least you want to present yourself as having a
Speaker 2: rivalry with USC at the time, with Pete Carroll, and
Speaker 2: you wake up and somebody said, hey, did you see
Speaker 2: the advertisement that UCLA took out in the La Times
Speaker 2: The football monopoly in Los Angeles is officially over. And
Speaker 2: it's a picture of Rick new Heisel and it's got
Speaker 2: UCLA there. You don't even run it by, Rick, because
Speaker 2: that might be where you go. You know, maybe let's
Speaker 2: hold off on this. It's nice to have, you know,
Speaker 2: how about some inner confidence. We don't need to exude
Speaker 2: it right away and send a shot across the bow
Speaker 2: there with USC. Good stuff. But the Soresby thing was
Speaker 2: interesting as well because Rick went through this. He did
Speaker 2: one of those office pools at the University of Washington
Speaker 2: and ended up winning I think a couple of thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: But you know, at the time it was a big deal.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh my god, college coach gambling. Well,
Speaker 2: it was on a different sport, and it was one
Speaker 2: of those office things. I don't know the punishment of that, PAULI,
Speaker 2: but I remember Rick faced a lot of scrutiny because
Speaker 2: of that. But I remember that that was a really
Speaker 2: big deal. And I think that's what Rick is saying, Hey,
Speaker 2: don't be petty with this, you know, don't hold on
Speaker 2: to it. Try to move on from this gambling situation.
Speaker 2: And Brendan Sorosby will hopefully get that opportunity. All Right,
Speaker 2: we'll take a break. It's a meat Friday. If you're
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Speaker 2: after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: Last goal for phone calls, what we learn, what's in
Speaker 2: store for Monday. Kirk kurb Street will join us on
Speaker 2: the program on Monday. I know that we've been talking
Speaker 2: about Indiana and Purdue. We were talking more Indiana Purdue football.
Speaker 2: After the Purdue athletic director called out Indiana. I ask
Speaker 2: Dylan can you find the March Madness title odds? Why
Speaker 2: don't we start projecting looking forward to basketball with Indiana
Speaker 2: and Purdue, which school has better odds to win the
Speaker 2: national championship? If you said Indiana, you would be correct
Speaker 2: at plus five thousand, Purdue at plus fifty five hundred.
Speaker 2: Florida and Duke are your co favorites right now, followed
Speaker 2: by Connecticut and Illinois. Let me see trip in Vegas. Trip,
Speaker 2: thanks for holding What do you have for me today?
Speaker 11: Hey?
Speaker 8: Good, good morning DP.
Speaker 11: Always good to speak with y'all. So yesterday you were
Speaker 11: talking about horse names for your horse. However, I've come
Speaker 11: up with three names. If Todd was a horse, so
Speaker 11: he would either be the dan At Donkey, the back
Speaker 11: row Borough or a double callback the no joke, slow folk.
Speaker 11: Y'all have a good weekend.
Speaker 2: Thank you Trip for daily roast trips. Got it out
Speaker 2: for you? What is that all about? I still think
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I'm still good on. Thank
Speaker 2: you Todd for my horse. If I get that opportunity
Speaker 2: to suggest a name to what do they call the group? Though, Dylan,
Speaker 2: you know, not a consortium, but what's it called? When
Speaker 2: you get a bunch of people who are investing in
Speaker 2: a horse. Is there like a one word? Yeah, there
Speaker 2: you go. Thank you. You can take off the Purdue
Speaker 2: hat if you want to. I mean you've you've been
Speaker 2: wearing it in support of the Boilermakers for most of
Speaker 2: the show. I'm sure they value your support. Ben and Iowa, Hi, Ben,
Speaker 2: What do you have for me today?
Speaker 8: All right, steep and harmony. How are we doing? Guys?
Speaker 2: Hey, listen.
Speaker 10: So I was just curious and maybe somebody's brought this up.
Speaker 10: I'm coming to you from the land of cyclones and
Speaker 10: hawk guys. Having to explain to people that I'm an
Speaker 10: Indiana football fan for the last thirty some years of
Speaker 10: my life has been just nauseating. And then all of
Speaker 10: a sudden, now we're flipping around, and now I'm having
Speaker 10: to explain to people that I'm not a bandwagon jumper.
Speaker 8: It's weird, right, It's just hard to do well.
Speaker 10: I was born in Indianapolis and then we moved here
Speaker 10: when I was a real young kid. So I have
Speaker 10: a question for you guys. Do you guys know maybe
Speaker 10: somebody's booked this up, Maybe somebody's brought it up.
Speaker 11: Do you guys know how many.
Speaker 10: Championships are between Indiana University and per don't university? U?
Speaker 8: What is it?
Speaker 2: Twenty five for Indiana, three for Purdue. Is that the
Speaker 2: latest math on this? I believe so Indiana used to
Speaker 2: have great swimming teams as well, but you know these
Speaker 2: are national championships. The athletic director didn't specify what sport
Speaker 2: we were talking about. Uh, let me see.
Speaker 5: How about this day in sports history? Paul I got
Speaker 5: one fun one for you Dan. Nineteen oh seven, Senator's
Speaker 5: pitcher Walter Johnson made his major league debut. He pitched
Speaker 5: in the majors for twenty one seasons. Guess how many
Speaker 5: complete games he had as a starter five hundred and
Speaker 5: thirty one complete games in his career, five thirty one
Speaker 5: and one hundred and ten shoutouts in twenty one seasons.
Speaker 2: No really pitching on this date. In nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 2: Wade Bogs got his three thousandth hit. He was the
Speaker 2: first ever to hit a home run for his three
Speaker 2: thousandth Derek Cheter ended up doing that, but also on
Speaker 2: this date. In twenty sixteen, each Hero had his three
Speaker 2: thousandth career hit. It was a triple. Now, I don't
Speaker 2: know how many other players. Maybe back in the old
Speaker 2: days when you know, there were a lot more triples
Speaker 2: in the game, But I don't know how many players
Speaker 2: had a triple other than each Heiro for their three
Speaker 2: thousandth hit. Let's see Fresh in Milwaukee, Yeah, PAULI, it's
Speaker 2: each Heiro and Paul molletor the only two in history
Speaker 2: to do it. Oh home, my dad, day, Fresh in Milwaukee.
Speaker 12: The day?
Speaker 2: Here comes that cost out of the day. What Hey, Fresh,
Speaker 2: what do you have for me today?
Speaker 12: Hey, DP, got a quick one for you. And the
Speaker 12: Dannich NFL season coming up? I just want to know
Speaker 12: what which NFL head coach or player needs a ring
Speaker 12: this season to completely reshape how history and Canton will
Speaker 12: view their career.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's see, yes, Marvin Dan Campbell.
Speaker 9: He will be immortalized if he brings the Super Bowl
Speaker 9: to the Lions.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about a player anybody who needs to solidify
Speaker 2: Now we can say Josh Allen, Mark Jackson, but uh
Speaker 2: about aside from those yes, Dylan.
Speaker 3: Uh in the Dan Campbell van Jared Goff wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 3: It's actually after you know, obviously going to the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl with the Rams and losing. I think if he
Speaker 3: wins some one with the Lions, that's it's compelling.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that feels like it's going to be more
Speaker 2: valuable than just one super Bowl if the Lions would
Speaker 2: happen to win. And I don't know why they're not
Speaker 2: higher up on the list. I know that their division
Speaker 2: is more competitive, but the Lions, it was about health.
Speaker 2: They got weapons, you got experience. They've certainly learned. If
Speaker 2: it's true, you have to learn to lose or learn,
Speaker 2: you know, to get through losing. Detroit's well versed in that.
Speaker 2: Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program? Todd,
Speaker 2: what'd you learn today?
Speaker 12: Alabama used toory successfully run the football, was ranked one
Speaker 12: hundred and twenty fourth nationally in rushing yards last season.
Speaker 2: Nikes, Dylan, what did you learn? Cake and champagne ain't
Speaker 2: gonna cut it for a wedding dinner. No, No, the
Speaker 2: result was really bad. Casualties, Marvin, you can't catch a lisp.
Speaker 5: Paul Carson Beck Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: My thanks to Anthony who kept me company up here.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you on Monday from the man Cave
Speaker 2: in Mean