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Speaker 1: You're listening Dracking Network.

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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: I hear that both big job there, Cryptopia, Craig fern out,

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Speaker 3: rock Up. I believe there are a couple of absolutely

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Speaker 3: self involved.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: That Boston guarden wrap will will turn your frown upside down.

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Speaker 1: If you're frowning on a Sunday morning, hopefully not great

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Speaker 1: to be with you. Episode four thirteen of the Anaki

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Speaker 1: Florian Podcast, Sunday, June fourth, twenty twenty three. You're looking

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Speaker 1: pretty good today. You're looking pretty young today. Last week

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Speaker 1: on the program, we failed to mention your forty seventh birthday.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, old dude, freaking old.

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Speaker 6: I feel a little bit a little more rested, a

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Speaker 6: little more rested now that I'm older. I don't sleep

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Speaker 6: as many hours like I don't know if that's because

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Speaker 6: I don't need more. I assume I could, you know,

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Speaker 6: use more sleep, but I just don't sleep as much.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know. I feel pretty rested today.

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Speaker 1: So that's my mother told me that as I got older,

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Speaker 1: I would start to have these intermissions during my sleep,

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Speaker 1: and it might just walk the end of that sleep

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Speaker 1: if it's four forty five in the morning and you

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Speaker 1: wake up. But as you get older, all you young'in's

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Speaker 1: out there will realize it becomes harder to stay asleep,

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Speaker 1: and you pay for it dearly later in the day.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't intend on bringing up your birthday. I

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Speaker 1: find that as I get older, I would love for

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Speaker 1: people to forget my birthday. It just so happens that

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Speaker 1: we're doing a podcast on my forty fifth birthday Monday,

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Speaker 1: July third, and I guess I'm just gonna have to

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Speaker 1: deal with that. But uh yeah, man, they get harder,

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Speaker 1: Like my fortieth birthday was was my worst birthday of

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Speaker 1: my life by a significant margin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, reality hits, Reality hits.

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Speaker 1: How was how is birthday number forty seven for you?

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Speaker 3: Kenny?

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Speaker 6: It was great, man, you know, pretty chill, you know,

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Speaker 6: hung out with the family, got a nice meal at night,

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Speaker 6: and uh yeah, it was good.

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Speaker 4: It was good.

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Speaker 1: What a great meal we had in Charlotte's Suppertown. Yeah, yeah, Supperland, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a supper land with Domina Cruz and of

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Speaker 1: course your lovely wife Clark. All right, A lot to

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Speaker 1: get into today as we recap UFC fight night Cotta

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Speaker 1: France versus Al Bosi. Later in the week we will

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Speaker 1: give you i think six predictions for UFC two eighty

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Speaker 1: nine noon As versus al Donna. Also some details on

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Speaker 1: my visit to the Lioness Studio. What a beautiful space

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Speaker 1: Amanda noon As has to her lonesome. I went from

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Speaker 1: Roger Crawl's MMA Science Academy last Thursday straight to Amanda

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Speaker 1: noon As is the lion S Studio. So you go

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Speaker 1: from one gym pack to the nines with fighters training

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Speaker 1: during pro practice, and then then you go to this

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Speaker 1: beautiful offering that only has Amanda noon As, Nina noon

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Speaker 1: As an Ariani Lipski. The differentiation between the smell of

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Speaker 1: one place and the next was a real juxtaposition. So

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Speaker 1: more on that coming up later in the week. But

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Speaker 1: a lot to recap from this UFC fight night. Some

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Speaker 1: big stuff happening at the KSW event in Poland, so

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Speaker 1: time permitting, we will get to that. And we asked

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Speaker 1: Ray Longo to come on at ten thirty am Eastern

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Speaker 1: on this yere Sunday morning. Respectfully, he asked for eleven

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Speaker 1: fifteen am Eastern, so we'll catch up with ray Longo

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Speaker 1: here in about fifteen minutes as usual. A lot to

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Speaker 1: get to with Raymond, but let us begin headlines with

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Speaker 1: our UFC Fight Night main event. It goes to a

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Speaker 1: mir al Basi by split decision over Kaikata France. This

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Speaker 1: was a flyweight title eliminator and it is a mere

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Speaker 1: al Bosi who moves forward in what was a close fight.

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Speaker 1: A lot of fans are in an uproar about the scorecards,

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Speaker 1: a lot of them throwing out that were robbery. It

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Speaker 1: Kaikotta France. Huge ramifications for our main event challenge, which

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Speaker 1: going five unit max on Ameer al Bosi, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: that was on Alics Casras, but he did have a

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about a very entertaining flyweight

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Speaker 4: I got screwed. I got screwed. I lost points. Oh no, sorry,

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Speaker 4: it's not about me.

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, no, listen, I had how you saw it.

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Speaker 6: You know, I agree with you. I think that, yes,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I thought that's he won or hasn't a strong argument

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Speaker 6: thought it was pretty clear for all Bosi. Round three.

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Speaker 6: I thought round two and round one was pretty close.

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Speaker 6: close enough. If you told me all Bosi won that round,

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Speaker 4: It was pretty close.

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Speaker 6: But again, when I'm looking at the strikes that are

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Speaker 6: I thought it was kai Kata France who was landing

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Speaker 6: that round three. But I thought it was a great performance.

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Speaker 6: First of all, all Bossi is legit. The dude is

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Speaker 6: someone to watch for Suore. I think he's gonna learn

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Speaker 6: a ton from that fight. I just don't think he

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Speaker 6: but I respectfully disagree it was close. But again, I

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Speaker 1: I certainly had rounds one, four, and five for kai

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Speaker 1: the judges. But Kenny, more often than not, when we

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Speaker 1: we're talking about five rounds. I want to share some

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Speaker 1: tweets with you. Of course. Sean Shean is a guy

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Speaker 1: who you hear on the anak Implorian podcast. Now, somebody

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Speaker 1: wrote to him that this was a robbery and he wrote, lol,

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Speaker 1: come on now, Catta Franz absolutely destroyed the air with

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Speaker 1: that from somebody who I'm now following. It's the underscore

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Speaker 1: this carefully, folks. Main culprit here is the concept of

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Speaker 1: And I'm as guilty as anyone in terms of trotting

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Speaker 1: not privy to those that being said Ken, in round

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Speaker 1: four of this fight, Chai Cotta of France was twenty

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Speaker 1: round four. But Chris Lee is thought by a lot

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Speaker 6: I thought that that was pretty clear for kay Katta Franz,

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Speaker 4: There was nothing.

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Speaker 6: Really as far as volume or strikes necessarily that where

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Speaker 6: All Bozzi really didn't successfully take him down. It was

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Speaker 6: I just thought that Kakatta France was landing the better

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Speaker 6: it's in point for important for Kai Katta Franz who's

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Speaker 4: He's trying to get closer to that title shot as well.

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Speaker 6: So there was a lot at stake in this fight,

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Speaker 6: and I don't think the judges got it right.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I'm using my twin brothers camera for the first time

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Speaker 1: and I fucking just kicked the tripod underneath the desk,

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Speaker 1: So sorry for that little blip there. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: sal Dia Moto I consider a friend in the MMA

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Speaker 1: space Rounds one through three for Amir al Bosi. And again,

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Speaker 1: I think judge is the second hardest job to fighter.

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Speaker 1: Fighter is the hardest job at MMA judges number two.

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Speaker 1: Referee is three, and humbly, I think the job of

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Speaker 1: the judges don't have a lot of tools at their disposal,

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Speaker 1: al Bosi. First UFC main event. I thought he shined

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Speaker 1: else can you say? Man, Alex Casaras still getting it done.

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Speaker 6: And man, did he need all of those skills against Pinetta,

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Speaker 6: Amazing scrambles on the ground, excellent aggressiveness by both men.

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Speaker 6: They were clearly not only trying to win the fight,

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Speaker 6: But to see Cassarras destroy the body like he did

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Speaker 1: Well done, Kencelo. I have nothing to add. I'll read

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Speaker 1: your tweet. Paneda versus Cassras was an awesome fight. Paneda

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Speaker 6: What's a Scottish twister? So basically it's the we call

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Speaker 6: I call it the Scottish Twitter twister.

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Speaker 4: Now I guess.

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Speaker 6: But it was the move that Stevie Ray hit on Uhtis.

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Speaker 3: my hair again. And she got right in there with

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Speaker 3: the clipper. Is.

436
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of our viewers remember the COVID

437
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: long ago where you had that unforgettably long let us.

438
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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what was growing in it.

439
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Speaker 4: He had hair down to his ass, didn't you, Ray?

440
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 4: Was it that long? I'm I exaggerating a little bit,

441
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 4: Hippie Ray.

442
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: A little bit exaggeration, all right, a little.

443
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Speaker 1: So well, it's great to see you as always. Did

444
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: you go double gratuity to Cheyenne? Is her name Cheyenne?

445
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: No, her name is Lauren? A close Come on, Lauren.

446
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: Lauren has now given you a haircut.

447
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: Yes.

448
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I got to do a better job.

449
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: If you're watching it watching on the DraftKings Network, I'm

450
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: using this new camera today. But I want to look

451
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Speaker 1: at your faces when I'm supposed to actually look up

452
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Speaker 1: here at the camera.

453
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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you you look exceptionally bright today, John,

454
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Speaker 3: He does you really do?

455
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 4: Thanks?

456
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Speaker 1: I'm using a high definition camera. I mean, it's about

457
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Speaker 1: time I get my act together when it comes to

458
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Speaker 1: the stuff I'm trying. It's not for a lack of effort.

459
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: But did you go double gratuity to Lauren after failing

460
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Speaker 1: to tip her from your previous haircut about three weeks ago?

461
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Speaker 3: You know, because I'm an honest man, that would have

462
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Speaker 3: to be a negative.

463
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: So is this just a matter of like not having

464
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Speaker 1: the cash when it comes time to tip the barber?

465
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Speaker 4: What's the issue?

466
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Speaker 3: You know? John? I really I don't know what that.

467
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Speaker 3: I don't know I'm going to get I'm tipping the

468
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: next time. I just don't think about it. You know.

469
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: Wait a second, I'm always in the gym. She comes

470
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Speaker 3: to the gym to cut my head, so I'm always

471
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: running around, So it's more like that.

472
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Speaker 1: Wait, so you didn't tip her head at all?

473
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 3: Now, I didn't tip her, and I think I made

474
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Speaker 3: a sweep up the hair. Also, if that makes you

475
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Speaker 3: feel better.

476
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: See Kenny's laughing. I'm sitting here thinking like, do you

477
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: guys just do it differently?

478
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 4: Up there?

479
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: Is she like Jim Barber? Is it known that she

480
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: just comes in and cuts your hair for free?

481
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Speaker 3: Well, she's a fighter. She's one of the fighters in

482
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Speaker 3: the gym. She'll be fighting June twenty fourth, in case you're.

483
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: Interested, Yeah, yes, I mean I'm more interested in her

484
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: than a lot of the athletes you talk about on

485
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Speaker 1: this show. She also cut your hair, you know. All right,

486
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 1: a lot of different things to get into. We were

487
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: just talking about Alex Caseras and just overwhelming appreciation for

488
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Speaker 1: this guy's body of work. He's going to have probably

489
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: thirty five UFC fights when he said and done, and

490
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Speaker 1: at this point with a number next to his name,

491
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Speaker 1: I think it's three or four successive wins. He's won

492
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Speaker 1: seven of eight. I know Michael Bisbink sort of laughed

493
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: a little bit and not in a disrespectful way when

494
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: he brought up Alexander Volkanovski. But the dude's won seven

495
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: of eight fights in one of the toughest divisions in

496
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Speaker 1: NIX Martial Arts.

497
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Speaker 3: No, I agree with you, man, And you know what,

498
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: good for him for calling out and look, he didn't

499
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: really call him. I mean he did it in a

500
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 3: nice way. I mean, I think he's a nice kid also,

501
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: so I think he did in a respectful, playful way.

502
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know what I was feeling, but you

503
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: know what, sometimes sometimes it's good to make those dreams

504
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: come true for somebody, you know. I mean they did

505
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 3: it like on the show, you know, the winner of

506
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: the show. You know, we talked about that gets a

507
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: shot at the title or this or that. They had

508
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: a couple of seasons. So throw the guy a bone.

509
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: I like what he did last night was fantastic, Like

510
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: you guys were saying, it was a great fight, and

511
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: uh yeah, so what Yeah, he's been around forever. I

512
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: think you got to reward those guys.

513
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Speaker 1: I think he'll get I had a big fight, and

514
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what he'll do with it.

515
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: You may recall he did headline in Salt Lake City

516
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: back in twenty sixteen competitive five rounds against the AA

517
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Speaker 1: Rodriguez and obviously Alex Casras is a completely different animal.

518
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: Seven years later, Raymond, what do you have for us?

519
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: On the main event, Ki Cotta France and Amra al Bosi.

520
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: The split goes to the Iraqi a Mira al Bosi.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I thought carav Franz won

522
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: that fight, and I thought, and I am a minimum

523
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: three to two. But again I'm the qualifying my opinion.

524
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't watching as a judge. I was just sitting

525
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: on the couch. But it looked like double jabs, triple jabs.

526
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: He I don't know by far was the more busier guy.

527
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I look like again, I didn't judge

528
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: the fight, but I thought Cara, I think I actually

529
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 3: I almost think it was kind of bad. But it

530
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like that was the people's opinion, right they.

531
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Speaker 3: I think people thought it was could have won either way.

532
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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to be overly critical of the

533
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: judges for a lot of different reasons. Chief among them

534
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: is because I've said they don't have anything resembling appropriate

535
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: resources to actually do their job. And also, as a

536
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: UFC commentator, you know, I have to take it pretty seriously.

537
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes I share fucking shuttles with these gentlemen, you know.

538
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: But Kenny, is it too simplistic of me to suggest that, like,

539
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: maybe they're just getting a little bit too cute with

540
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: it in terms of like trying to focus so much

541
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: on damage and what strike is doing this, Like everybody

542
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: in the fight space that I respect, with the exception

543
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: of maybe Blau Muhammad, believes that Kaikna France won this fight.

544
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: And sometimes I just feel like Kenny the judge is

545
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: just getting a little bit too cute with this, you know,

546
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: like rounds four and five, fucking Kai Conti frants every

547
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Speaker 1: day the goddamn.

548
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Speaker 3: Week easy, I mean very easy. Look like I wasn't

549
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: really watching, so I know al Joe was there, so

550
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: I texted him, I go, am I missing something? Like

551
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: was it different live? And he said it was close,

552
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: but he said it came for him. It came down

553
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: to whoever won the first round, which you know, like again,

554
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: and I thought Carra Franz won the first round, so

555
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 3: I had a minimum three rounds. You know, I gave

556
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: the other guy when he had to, you know, he

557
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: had his back for a while and the grappling exchanges,

558
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: and even I think Carra Franz ended up turning that

559
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: around even at the end. So I don't I mean,

560
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: I just don't know how you thought the other guy won,

561
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: like based on what like he definitely wasn't busier than him. Uh.

562
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 3: I don't think he got rocked at all. The other guy.

563
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 3: I think, like again, I to me on the outside again,

564
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm qualifying. Don't want to get attacked by anybody. It

565
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: just looked like the git he had no answer for

566
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: the Jim. He was getting double Jim, crippled Jim. The

567
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: guy was moving. I don't know, it looked like he

568
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: if I'm Cara Franz, I'm fucking pissed because that was

569
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: a really tough fight. You had to be respectful, you

570
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: know your zig when you should have zigged the fights

571
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Speaker 3: over and I thought he did a great job at

572
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: just controlling the pace of that fight and outlanding them.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you, right, I agree with you Ray,

574
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 6: and John does as well, I believe. But yeah, I

575
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 6: think that what kind of hurt him in the beginning

576
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Speaker 6: was the fact that he was a little tight even

577
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Speaker 6: walking out to the fight. You can see the pressure

578
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 6: on his shoulders, the nervousness as he walked into that octagon.

579
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Speaker 6: But I still think he won. He won rounds one

580
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 6: and even two. Two was even closer, I thought. But

581
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Speaker 6: I think there's a strong argument for for four rounds

582
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Speaker 6: to one. For I was a little confused because it's

583
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Speaker 6: like you're looking at what strikes take effect, and to me,

584
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 6: the determining determining factor in that first round were the

585
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Speaker 6: calf kicks. I mean, when he was landing those calf kicks,

586
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 6: it was definitely getting all bossie to step back. He

587
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 6: was definitely walking a little bit more gingerly on.

588
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 4: That lead leg.

589
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Speaker 6: Other than that, it was kind of skimming blows them

590
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 6: both guys with their hands. So I don't know, uh

591
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 6: that was That was an interesting decision.

592
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Speaker 3: To me, I was a little Did we look at

593
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: the score cards rounds they gave? Yeah, well, yeah, rounds

594
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: did they give al Bazi?

595
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: So sal Diamato gave Amir al Bosi rounds one, two,

596
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: and three, then gave four and five to Kai Cotta Franz.

597
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Mike Bell had the fight for Kaiktta Franz. He gave

598
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Speaker 1: him one, four and five, and then Chris Lee gave

599
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: Kaiktta Franz rounds one and five. As I said, round

600
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: four Chris Lee gave to Amir al Bosi, and that

601
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: of all the scorecards, to me, is the single worst

602
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: round score for any of the three judges.

603
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think one, four and five is the

604
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: bare minimum? Yeah, that guy should he should be look again,

605
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: but it was you know, look at was it? It

606
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: was very competitive. But you know in those fights like that,

607
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: like a fight like that John, that's when you really

608
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: want the judges to get it right because that you know,

609
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 3: you're fighting with your head, you think, and I mean

610
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: I think they told him he hadn't I think did

611
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: they not tell him me how to finish him in

612
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: round five?

613
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: Well?

614
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Right? I mean, can you imagine if you're Kai Kata

615
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: France and there's open scoring and you look up and

616
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: saldi Amato's got the first three for a mere al bosi,

617
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: you probably would that.

618
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: I don't think about the open scoring though. Man, That's

619
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: exactly what I don't like. As hard as it is,

620
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: I'd rather get fucked at the end than going through

621
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: that and having them you know, I think I'm winning

622
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: the round and the guy's voting against me. That that's

623
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: got to feel like shit.

624
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's interesting in rounds four and five? You definitely

625
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 6: in even three. Uh, even though he definitely lost round three,

626
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 6: k kind of fronts didn't take his foot off the

627
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 6: gas at the end of those rounds like he was

628
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 6: clearly trying to win those rounds by finishing strong on

629
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Speaker 6: top of it. I thought he was cruising in rounds

630
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 6: four and five, like winning the round, and then he

631
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 6: stepped on the gas at the very end to make sure, yes,

632
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 6: you know, any of the referees where the judges were watching,

633
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 6: sorry that they were going.

634
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 4: To give it his way. And I don't know. It

635
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: was a head scratcher for.

636
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, yea. And I feel bit for Caro frames

637
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: I really do. I thought he you know why, because

638
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: he really fought an intelligent, smart, well executed fight against

639
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: a tough kid man. It kind of sucks.

640
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel worse for your barber having to attack

641
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: that ness with no gratuity. And honestly, Ky doesn't lose

642
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: that much, right But in all seriousness, guys, right like,

643
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I've sat here and suggested that Brandon roy Ball and

644
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: not Amir al Bosi, what.

645
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: Kenny, is it possible with talking about the judging, he

646
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: had a he had to insert that in in between.

647
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: See God, I tell you he's on the.

648
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: Upper cut out of nowhere from Annick.

649
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I just that my brain just was

650
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: sort of saying, well, I feel kind of worse for her.

651
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Speaker 1: Than kay No. I mean, certainly monetarily, but I don't

652
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Speaker 1: think Ki loses that much because I don't think am

653
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: Here al Bosi gains all that much from a win here.

654
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: He accrused the experience. I thought he looked good at times. Uh,

655
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: but Brandon Royball to me, if Brandon Moreno were to

656
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: go out there and dust Pantosia quickly or even vice versa,

657
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Royval has to be the guy, which

658
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: means the kaikn of France is still going to find

659
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: himself in a big title eliminator type fight. So in

660
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: terms of contendership, I'm not sure he loses that much.

661
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it's it's a red stripe on his

662
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: Wikipedia page forever.

663
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well we back to the same old spot, buddy.

664
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Speaker 3: Yeah no, we really well, we've seen worse. But that

665
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: was that was surprising to me. I thought that was

666
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: a unanimous decision that really surprised the ship out of me.

667
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 6: That's that's gotta be unsettling, ray for for you, who's

668
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 6: been a part of many big fights to see that

669
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 6: and go, man, that could be in my future at

670
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 6: some point because it's, uh, you want to at least

671
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 6: make sense of some of the decisions. And again they

672
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 6: were close rounds, but as a coach you got to

673
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 6: feel a little bit.

674
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Speaker 3: Uh. I think I've been on the receiving end of

675
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: a lot of that. You know, you know what it is.

676
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: It's like anything else in life. You're you almost become,

677
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: you know, like numb to it. That's right. Like when

678
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: we have these conversations, I'm like, well, I think we

679
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: made some inroads. So I think by talking about it,

680
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: I think, uh, the commissions tried to tighten up a

681
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: couple of things. So I think we just keep beating

682
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Speaker 3: the drum and hope that they get it right. But

683
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: it's always going to be so subjective that it's never

684
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: going to be like that and human nature it is.

685
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: It looks it's tough, but I don't know. I think

686
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: the easy ones, I think that's what bothers me. I

687
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: thought that that looked like an easy one to me

688
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: to score, and then they got.

689
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: It wrong, all right. Some other highlights from this UFC

690
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: fight night. Jim Miller will be forty in October. I

691
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: believe he is the all time UFC wins leader now

692
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Speaker 1: with twenty five of those forty two UFC appearances, which

693
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Speaker 1: is also a record and man that left hand who

694
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Speaker 1: ken Fla. What do you have for us on Jim

695
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Speaker 1: Miller over the tough luck UFC newcomer Jesse Butler, I.

696
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Speaker 6: Mean, what do you say? I mean, Jim Miller's an

697
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 6: absolute stud. Looked like he was in phenomenal shape. I mean,

698
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 6: he looked as muscly as I remember him. But just

699
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 6: a short shot on the inside man. Jim Miller doing

700
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Speaker 6: his thing, continuing to evolve as a fighter obviously comes

701
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Speaker 6: from that grappling background and landing that short shot man.

702
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Speaker 6: To see him get these wins against these youngsters is

703
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Speaker 6: pretty damn cool.

704
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Speaker 4: What's what the martial arts is all about?

705
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Speaker 6: And he's writing a completely different story for himself, which

706
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Speaker 6: I think is really remarkable as a guy who's been

707
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Speaker 6: around this sport for so long.

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Speaker 1: Totally ray, he gotta think go ahead.

709
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: Totally blown away John by that performance. And like again,

710
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: this is a guy that obviously loves to fight like

711
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 3: you have to love to fight. The guy's forty years old.

712
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: He fought like a twenty year old last night. You

713
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: know he's been through the adversity. Didn't he have the

714
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 3: stomach problem or whatever problem? He had life disease, which

715
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: you know, you hear people who you never get over

716
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 3: it sometimes, but this guy got through that. He looks

717
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: like a new man. But again, I think it's his

718
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: love for combat sports. I mean, it's a guy that's

719
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Speaker 3: at ease at forty years old against a young kid.

720
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Speaker 3: To do that is crazy. And by the way, I

721
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: want you to know, Bazooka puts his name in on

722
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: all of these fights to get in there forty five

723
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Speaker 3: fifty five, and I would never want to see him

724
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Speaker 3: fight Jim Miller because I like Jim Miller. But that's

725
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: not happening to Berzuoka. He's way, bazook is really good

726
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: at this point. So I hope they give this guy

727
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: a chance and we get to see what he could do.

728
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: But he put his name in for I think three fights.

729
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: Right mob Starry Jeev. Yeah, So Jim Miller was supposed

730
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: to face Ludovik kleinb then it was going to be

731
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Speaker 1: Jared Gordon in steps Jesse Butler, and you certainly feel

732
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: for him given the circumstances. But man, Jim Miller did

733
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: not miss the follow up shot did not miss. And

734
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the lime disease right there. Was time. There

735
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Speaker 1: were times during Jim Miller's career where you felt like

736
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't going to get over that hump, and

737
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: there were some experimental things and he finally got relatively

738
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: healthy with it. And for the father of four working

739
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: on his farm, twenty three second fight didn't absorb a

740
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: strike gets the bonus to go with it. I did

741
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: want to ask you guys about the Jared Gordon circumstance

742
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: if I could, because we talked about this on our

743
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: show last week. He was separated from consciousness on April

744
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: twenty second. He woke up after the Bobby Green flash

745
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: of heads and then ensuing follow up shots by Bobby Green,

746
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: and any lip reader in the world could see Jared

747
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: Gordon say what happened?

748
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: Right?

749
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: And then here he is fighting in June right, cutting

750
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: weight the next month in the month of May, and

751
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: it just didn't seem like he should have been in

752
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: this spot to begin with. So I credit the Nevada

753
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: State Athletic Commission for pulling Jared Gordon from this fight.

754
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: I consider Jared a friend, but this felt like I

755
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: don't know if it was manipulation of a medical suspension

756
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: ray or what it was, but it didn't feel like

757
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: Jared Gordon should have been fighting, and certainly glad he

758
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: didn't eat that left hand, given the fact that he

759
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: was concussed you know, five weeks ago.

760
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, friend and no friend. We all love Jared Gordon,

761
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: but have hats off to than that Nevada Athletic Commission

762
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: were here for the guy's safety. We don't want to

763
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: see that kid get hurt. And I'm really hats off

764
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: to them for they hare to protect the fighters. You know.

765
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: That's why again, even with steroid abuse, they want to

766
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: level playing field, right, that's the objective. Everything's got to

767
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: be leveled. They don't want somebody to have an advantage

768
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: way the other. So if they had, they had to

769
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: protect him. That's a great example of what they did.

770
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Speaker 3: And we all love Jarry Gordon. He could never be

771
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: mad at us for wanting to protect him, you know

772
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: what I mean. So that's the way I look at it.

773
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: You know, getting back to Jim millerdo too. He's a

774
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: great example. He's a great example of a guy that's

775
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: maybe never going to fight for the championship or be

776
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: a champion, that had a really stellar career in the

777
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: UFC that you can't pick many guys that have done

778
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: that the way he's done it. You know, I almost

779
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I almost feel like he's

780
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: the Nolan Ryan of MMA, Like he's not losing a beat,

781
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 3: like I think Nolan Royan was still throwing one hundred

782
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: miles an hour at forty five. Like this kid looked

783
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: phenomenal last night. Now either looked phenomenal because the other

784
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: guy wasn't that good, or he looked phenomenal. I think

785
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: he did a nice slip and rip and he ended

786
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 3: the show beautifully. So again, hats off to Jim Miller,

787
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: and I think he's a perfect example of if you

788
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: love what you're doing, you can make a really nice

789
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: living out of it.

790
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kenny.

791
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: Jim Miller has now won four of his last five.

792
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: He did say in his post fight interview with Michael

793
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Bisping that he feels like when he feels good and

794
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: he trains well as he did in advance of this one,

795
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: that he's dangerous for any fifty five in the world,

796
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: and he certainly is right finishing ability in all phases

797
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: of the game. And I don't know, like you look

798
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: at Matt Brown's success right now, you look at Jim

799
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: miller success right now. If I were to ask you, guys, like,

800
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: which guy do you think would fare better against the

801
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: top eight in their respective divisions, I think a lot

802
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: of people might answer Jim Miller like, I don't know.

803
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what'll be next for Jim.

804
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: And he accepted three different guys on this date and

805
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: might have beaten all three of those guys.

806
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's an important point.

807
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 6: John is as you get older, right in this kind

808
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 6: of common sense, But I don't think a lot of

809
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 6: people follow the protocol of managing your training, managing the

810
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 6: volume of training, and managing your injuries properly. It's so

811
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 6: tough for fighters to get out of that mentality of

812
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 6: like push through pain, push through injuries, do this. You're

813
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 6: really trying to manage a lot of that because you

814
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 6: have so much experience at that point. The key is

815
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 6: are you in shape? Are you managing you know, the

816
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 6: aches and pains and the injuries and things. And if

817
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 6: you could do that, and you are very experienced and skilled,

818
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 6: like a Jim Miller or Matt Brown for that matter,

819
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 6: you can go out there and still wreck shop. So

820
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 6: it's great to see that approach executed so well by

821
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 6: guys like Jim Miller.

822
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, genetically, I think he's got to be a freak too, John,

823
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: because I'm telling you, I dealt with guys with injuries

824
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: that fought with really bad injuries, and he looked he

825
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: really did look like a twenty year old and they

826
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: had a good pep in his step. He was, I mean,

827
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: he was. He threw beautifully, I mean it was. It's crazy.

828
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 3: If he's forty years old, that's nuts. Man. Yeah.

829
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: You can really seen.

830
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: Other guys not do too good at that approach in

831
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: that age, and this guy looks like, Yeah, put him

832
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: in with anybody, he's going to be one hundred percent

833
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: going to be competitive. You can't look at any of

834
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: his fights and go, that's going to be a blowout.

835
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: I really don't think so. And if you make a

836
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: mistake with him, he could get you out of there.

837
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: I think back to some of our fighter meetings when

838
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: he was trying to navigate the lime disease when it

839
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: was really at the height of it for him, at

840
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: least in terms of the symptoms, and just makes it

841
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: all the more remarkable what Jim Miller has done and

842
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: in terms of the Hall of Fame. You got to

843
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: find a place for that guy, you know. I don't

844
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: know that they would grab one of his individual fights

845
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: and throw that in there. I think Jim Miller, based

846
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: upon his body of work, is a UFC Hall of Famer.

847
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: I'd also like to see Andre Orlovski get in there.

848
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: He's on the wrong end of a TKO here against

849
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: Dontel May's. Hey, Ray, before we get you out of here,

850
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: I have a couple other things I would like to

851
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: get to with you, unless there's anything else from UFC

852
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: Fight Night that I'm forgetting. Oh, Timmy Elliott, by the way,

853
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: with a big win on the main card, A lot

854
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: of people out there were suggesting that if I was

855
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: on the broadcast, I would have brought his personal life

856
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: to the air.

857
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 4: You would have, but it would have been the great Yeah, but.

858
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: How could they say that? Kenny? But man, is that

859
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: an example of the power of the pussy man? I

860
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: feel so crazy he had such a guy thought like

861
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: a fucking man possessed last night. I mean, off, Tim Elliott.

862
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: You can't stop that type of motivation, Kenny.

863
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, or or it actually destroys you. I mean,

864
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 6: like that hearing the story. I don't want to get

865
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 6: into it, but like that is such a devastating thing.

866
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 6: And to hear him be able to bounce back off

867
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 6: something like that and kind of focus or do his

868
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 6: best to kind of focus on what's in front of

869
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 6: him there is definitely uh is noteworthy. I mean, those

870
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 6: are kind of situations that can definitely break any man,

871
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 6: no matter what your background or what yours level is.

872
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: Man, that is just like the ultimate betrayal sto.

873
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeahs, unless you're from like Europe. I heard like the

874
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: Deans are good with that stuff. They don't really look

875
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: at it. Maybe what a French is it? Don't I

876
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: think the Europeans are managing that type of hearty Yeah no,

877
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: but I'll tell you listen, we've all we've all been there.

878
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: It's a horror show. If you're not grounded, you're getting

879
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: absolutely hammered, hammered on that. So, yeah, that's my favorite

880
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: because that's the best revenge, right mag if he would

881
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: have lost that fight, you know, my.

882
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Favorite word to hear you say ray is hammered hammed.

883
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I'm so glad that he didn't lose

884
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: that fight in terms of his mental but Uh, I

885
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: haven't fight Kevin krum at a catchweight. I know there's

886
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: a little weight class discrepancy there. I'd have them settle

887
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: in the octagon.

888
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 4: No.

889
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: No, But when you say we've all been there, right, Yeah,

890
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: like my high school sweetheart cheating on me, I've been

891
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: cheated on multiple times, all of you if you're watching

892
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: out there, why'd you guys all cheat on me? But

893
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: what hasn't happened to a lot of us? Like you suggest,

894
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: we've all been there, right, And I didn't plan on

895
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: going down this road. But it's the Aneconmploring podcast. It's

896
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: not UFC Fight Night, so I can't. Yeah, most of

897
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: us haven't been there when a child is injected into

898
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: the mix, when a woman or a man sort of

899
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: professes themselves to your child as a parent and is

900
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: parental and then all the while is doing these deceitful things.

901
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: I haven't been there, you know where my kid's been

902
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: involved so.

903
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I could give you, you know, horror

904
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: story you've been there yet? No, No, I'm not saying

905
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: for me, but I'm saying just in general. I mean,

906
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: whose wife is in you know, still at the hospital

907
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: with the baby and you know, the guy's running around.

908
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's this story life in the big city.

909
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 3: It is horrible though, what he went through is that

910
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: that that type of shit is. It's hard, it's hard

911
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: to beat. He eventually beat it, obviously. Uh. It hats off,

912
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: hats off to him. I mean, I'm we're goofing around

913
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: a bit, but that really is that's a horror show.

914
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if they reference on the broadcast, maybe

915
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: during his walkout when most of the viewership would be

916
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: in commercial break, maybe they were muzzled and didn't talk

917
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: about it at all.

918
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 4: Uh.

919
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: And there's a way to sort of do it. You

920
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: could even just mention that he's dealt with some adversity

921
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: in his personal life and it can be as simple

922
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: as that.

923
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: Right.

924
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: But well, he put out John, he put it out.

925
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: Exactly well, right, and well of course right, I mean,

926
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna write no.

927
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: As soon as he does that. It's like open gay.

928
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you could. I don't think he minds if

929
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: you can't. I don't That guy wouldn't mind a bit

930
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: if you asked him about it, I'm sure, But it's

931
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: that's not even right position.

932
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're trying to respect the person, right, but also

933
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: journalistically in terms of the context of the fight and

934
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: his preparation for it. This was a huge thing that

935
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: he was dealing with, and the fact that he was

936
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: able to emerge through it, Tom, you know, is just

937
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: another feather in his cap, and man, is is the

938
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: career going to look good when we look back on it? Historically?

939
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: For Tim Elliott? You know, a guy who's seven years

940
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: ago fought Demitrius Johnson for the UFC Flyweight Championship, and

941
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: when all said and done, Tim Elliott will be the

942
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: most decorated takedown guy in the UFC Men's flyweight division.

943
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, John, I thought it's one one thing too.

944
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: You brought up a good point, the fact that he

945
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: got through a training camp is that's not easy to

946
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: do in that position, you know, because your mind is

947
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: all over the place, right.

948
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

949
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: There were times I used to train me. If I

950
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: had an argument my wife, he'd just sit there and go,

951
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: can you focus for two hours? Just give me two hours,

952
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: you know, because that shit, you know you got, you

953
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: gotta address everything and end it immediately or you just

954
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: it lingers with you. And it sucks, man, It does suck.

955
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, imagine Tim going to his daughter and

956
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: being like, hey, you know, she doesn't she doesn't want

957
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: to be with me. She wants to be with another man.

958
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: So she's not going to, you know, be that motherly

959
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: figure for you anymore. It's a devastating thing, all right.

960
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: Seventy seven days until UFC two ninety two in Boston, Massachusetts.

961
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: What do you think of the city of champions. I

962
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: know we haven't had a champion since the Red Sox

963
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, but what are your impressions of Boston,

964
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: Massachusetts over the years.

965
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Love it, love eight and older people. I expect

966
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: a lot of love when we get there.

967
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: What do you laugh at?

968
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: Love it?

969
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: What are you laughing at? I just love Boston, all right? Yeah, no,

970
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: we're excited to have you. Maybe there will be some

971
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Northeastern support for al Joe.

972
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: You know, I got a bunch of relatives there too,

973
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: so I'm looking forward to catching up with everybody.

974
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, you got Austin blood like I got New

975
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: York blood.

976
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: Huh uh. Well, you know they were born in New York,

977
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: but they live in Boston.

978
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: All right, and they smarted up and went to Massachusetts.

979
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: Right. This guy's the best.

980
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: The best of the worst. Right, it seems like the

981
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: an considering boats audience is like turning on me. But

982
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm just being me. I'm just being me. So Chris Wyman.

983
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: Do we have any update on Chris Wyman? He seems

984
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: to look great, got through that grappling event with flying colors.

985
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Do you think we'll see him in twenty twenty three? Yes,

986
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 1: all right, that's a good sign. That's a good sign

987
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: that Ray was super that.

988
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: I'll give you that. I'll give you the date next week. Well,

989
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: it'll be a cliffhanger for the fame.

990
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: Hey, all right, well that sounds very encouraging. Next week,

991
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: Ray Longo is going to give us the date on

992
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: Chris Wadman's return to the octagon after that devastating broken

993
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: leg suffered against you, Rye Hall, I believed April of

994
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, now more than two years ago. Why Ray,

995
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: before we get you out of here? You it is

996
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: it's crazy to eighty nine Nones versus Aldona Rogers Arena, Vancouver,

997
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: British Columbia this weekend, twelve years after Ken Flow walked

998
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: out in a Boston Bruins jersey weigh one hundred and

999
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: forty six pounds. We have a rainy Altana challenging. We

1000
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: have a rainy Aldanna challenging Amanda Nunez. We have Benny

1001
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: Daryush against Charles Olavera, dan Egay against Nate the train Land.

1002
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: Where any final parting shots for us on UFC two

1003
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: eighty nine, and what your expectations are for this weekend

1004
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: before we let you fly?

1005
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: Well? Is the Is this the first time we're back

1006
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: in Vancouver since then? Oh?

1007
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: No, yes? Well two nineteen, No, no, no, no, twenty

1008
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: nineteen there was a UFC fight night in vancou It's

1009
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: been four years though largely because of the pandemic, since

1010
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: we've actually been in the Great White North.

1011
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love Vancouver, Kenny. You get to see the

1012
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 3: city at all? When you you remember that, I thought

1013
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 3: a little bit great.

1014
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: I didn't get a chance on that trip.

1015
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance on that trip, but I

1016
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 6: I went after I retired, got a chance to go

1017
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 6: to Vancouver when the Women's World Cup was going on

1018
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 6: with Fox and absolutely absolutely lovely city.

1019
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, but uh good, look great fights

1020
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: that who's that Nate? What's his name? I do it? Yeah,

1021
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 3: I gotta say I can't wait for his fight. I

1022
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: tell you that guy's done his a night job. I

1023
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 3: actually can't wait for his fight. He's got a really

1024
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: great dance part to make for it. This's gotta be

1025
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: an exciting fight. But uh, I'm going to go with

1026
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: a darry Yushan al Donna.

1027
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: A lot of money coming in on drafting sportsbook companil

1028
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: dark us now minus one. But you said you'd like

1029
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: a Reine al Donna plus two sixty five.

1030
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think, uh yeah, I think she

1031
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: gets it done.

1032
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: Wow, care to elaborate on that.

1033
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: I just think she's got honest and I think amand

1034
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: there is the greatest ever. But I think you know,

1035
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: she's getting older, she's a mom. I think, you know,

1036
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 3: if her head's into the training, it'll be you know,

1037
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: I would go what I just think for some reason,

1038
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: this girl is just gonna be too big and too strong,

1039
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: and she could throw, she could take you shy. I

1040
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: think it's a I think it's actually a bad matchup.

1041
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 4: All right.

1042
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Ray Long goes on the record he likes a Reine

1043
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: al Donna at UFC two to eighty nine. You can

1044
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: see it all play out on ESPN plus pay per view,

1045
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: and we'll see what Daryusch has for uh for Charles

1046
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: dubronx OLIVERA are my friend? What's on tap? The rest

1047
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: of your Sunday? Brother?

1048
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: You know, he got my daughter's birthday today, so we're

1049
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: going out and.

1050
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: Celebrating, which don.

1051
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: She does. She doesn't want to be mentioned.

1052
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: Oh how about that? You Ken Flow. You guys, you're

1053
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: both keeping stuff.

1054
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's a lot of scumbags out there.

1055
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 3: What can I say? Yeah, got to keep it close

1056
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: to the right.

1057
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: I keep both of our families. You know, it's good.

1058
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: My kids' names are Riley, Tatum, and Hunter. But I

1059
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: have all this integrated defense, so I'm good just keeping space.

1060
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 4: You can't.

1061
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: I can't bander it. I can't let you get too close.

1062
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 3: See, you're in trouble because now Kobe's copying down those names.

1063
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 3: He could be showing up at one of the kids'

1064
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 3: schools now like he was going to show up at

1065
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: your house. This is what you want your life.

1066
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: I did have a dream the other night that I

1067
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: was running to the park.

1068
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 3: You got to go to Kennedy self defense class because

1069
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: I'm sure he covers even and this stuff in the

1070
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 3: self This is part of self defense. And also, can

1071
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: you get over there as quick as possible.

1072
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: I got a lot of work to do before I

1073
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: am ready for that type of course. I don't know

1074
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: my way around a firearm necessarily. It's been a few years.

1075
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: We're going to fix that. We're gonna fix it, all right.

1076
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, have a great day and a better evening. Happy

1077
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: birthday to your daughter who shall not be named, And

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Speaker 1: we will talk to you next Monday, June twelfth.

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Speaker 3: Oh, some guys, your best. Thanks and John, you look

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Speaker 3: outstanding today. That lighting is funny. I wonder how good

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Speaker 3: I would look in that lighting.

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Speaker 1: You would look amazing. With a high definition camera, Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll send one. You know what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna send you a camera, and we're gonna send

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Speaker 1: Lauren back to back tips, you know, for the last

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Speaker 1: two haircuts.

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Speaker 3: That's she'll be so happy, she'll be so happy she's

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Speaker 3: on this podcast. That's yeah. I don't want to say

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Speaker 3: he has enough of a tip for her.

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Speaker 1: But all right, she's got to Dan. We can mention,

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Speaker 1: we can mention her name on the show. Get the

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Speaker 1: fuck out of.

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Speaker 3: Here, Just get out of here.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Every week here yeah, on the Inacanplorian podcast minute men

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Speaker 1: so sensitive, right, It's never my intention to cut anyone off.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a little bit of a delay there. But

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Speaker 1: thanks to Ray Longo for his myriad weekly contributions to

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Speaker 1: the show. A couple of things here on the way

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Speaker 1: out can flow. Did you happen to see at the

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Speaker 1: KSW show in Poland? Christophe Glowwokie or Glovaki Hope I'm

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Speaker 1: pronouncing that right. Thirty two and four is a pro

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Speaker 1: boxer making his professional mixed martial arts debut. He's mounted

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Speaker 1: and lands a left hand from bottom to knock the

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Speaker 1: guy out cold.

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Speaker 4: You see that.

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Speaker 6: These are the things that are so amazing. You know,

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Speaker 6: you have a certain perspective of fighting right, and you're like,

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Speaker 6: all you got to do is you get to the

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Speaker 6: mount and that's a dominant position. The guy can't hurt

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Speaker 6: you from there, but you can hurt them like that's

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Speaker 6: that's kind of the general rule of mount is you

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Speaker 6: can punch them and they can't punch you, right, And

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Speaker 6: if they do, they're like, you have gravity on your side.

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Speaker 6: There's no way they can generate enough power off of

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Speaker 6: their back.

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Speaker 4: To knock you out. You're fine, not the case.

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Speaker 6: Like these are the things that like as martial artists,

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Speaker 6: it's great for us to see from the outside looking

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Speaker 6: in to know that, hey, you know what, you can't

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Speaker 6: get knocked out even if you're on top in mount

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Speaker 6: like beware and if these things happen to you, it's

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Speaker 6: absolutely devastating, right because like you become that guinea pig

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Speaker 6: for the rest of the world to go, yeah, you

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Speaker 6: gotta be careful there, You actually gotta be careful. But

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Speaker 6: that was it was crazy. I saw it last night

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Speaker 6: and I like my jaw dropped. I was like, damn,

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Speaker 6: that's the real thing. Be careful out there. You're not

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Speaker 6: just you know, you're you're You're not completely safe by

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Speaker 6: being in the mouth.

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Speaker 4: That was wild.

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Speaker 1: Nice hips by Mark Goddard to get to the other

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Speaker 1: side and stop that fight there and shout out to mom.

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Speaker 1: Met Kali dob too, just continuing to get it done.

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Speaker 1: He's north of forty, I believe at this stage of

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Speaker 1: his career, and if there was a universal MMA Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, this guy would absolutely be in it. I

1138
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Speaker 1: remember when we were taping MMA Live back in the

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Speaker 1: day and I did a lot of graveyard shifts back

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Speaker 1: at ESPN when I was there from two thousand and

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Speaker 1: six to twenty eleven, and remember watching like Sengoku eleven

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Speaker 1: and I just became obsessed with this guy and he

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Speaker 1: wins the trilogy fight with Scott. Ask him over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: So shout out to ma med Kali Dob and I

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Speaker 1: will leave you with this from Scott Fontana, great journalist

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Speaker 1: out there who focuses a lot on his podcast on

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Speaker 1: the judging. So listen to this can Flow alternative decision

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Speaker 1: alert Buba Cartner Mago Medov one round one on two

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Speaker 1: of three scorecards against Elisios Aleski Dos Santos, and he

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Speaker 1: won round two on two of three scorecards, but still

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Speaker 1: lost a three round decision. Scott says, you get about

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Speaker 1: four or five of those a year in the UFC.

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Speaker 1: A lot of close rounds in mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Later this week I will share some thoughts on my

1156
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Speaker 1: visit to the MMA Science Academy and to Amanda Noonez's

1157
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Speaker 1: lion S studio, and we will get six predictions from

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Speaker 1: Kenflow and Brian Petrie on UFC two to eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: Excited to get back to Canada. You know it's sold

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Speaker 1: out in Van City and we're excited to be there.

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Speaker 1: You can check out millions dot co for our one

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Speaker 1: more sleep Vancouver City themed limited edition designs. Kenny Florianmartial

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Speaker 1: Arts dot com is live as well, and if you

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Speaker 1: want merchandise to support the Antik and Floring podcast, we

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Speaker 1: hope you will get it at Anti florianpodcast dot com.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody for listening. Of course across the world.

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Speaker 1: We're watching on the DraftKings Network and on the DraftKings

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel as well. Don't forget clips of the show

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Speaker 1: can still be access on the Endcamploring podcast YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: and live this Thursday, remember the show with Blai Muhammad

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Speaker 1: and Jason Annik. Thank you to our guest today Raymond Longo.

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Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Cody Marilyn. Thanks to everybody behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes at the DK network as well with Afriken Flum,

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Speaker 1: John Adick. We will talk to you on Thursday. Until

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Speaker 1: then you'll fucking later.

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Speaker 5: does Don Don Don Don? Don dos does Don Does

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Speaker 5: Don does.

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Speaker 4: Do?

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Speaker 5: They won't have one of donuts. They won't have one

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Speaker 5: of donuts.