WEBVTT - Anne Winters 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.400 And this is like the one thing that I hate 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:04.720 hearing from a director and you're you're like, oh gosh, 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.080 no is when you're doing the scene that you audition 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.400 with and they hired you for, and they're like, do 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.640 it more like your audition? You know, do it more 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:24.120 like the original? Hi? I'm Annie Winters and I am 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:32.800 playing Charlie Burke, the badass navigator on the Morville. Hello, 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:38.640 dear listeners, and welcome to yet another episode of Off 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.840 the Beat. I am your host, Brian baum Gartner. Now 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.920 you know that I had my friend Jessica'soor on the 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.600 podcast a couple of months back, and one of the 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.000 things we talked about was Seth McFarland's amazing sci fi 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:58.040 series The Orville. It's a great show with some really 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.720 interesting stories and characters, which is why I am so 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:07.000 excited to have another or Villian. I don't know if 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.640 that's a word, but on the podcast this week is 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:15.720 Anie Winters. Today we're gonna get into her Texas roots 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.200 and why she considers herself more of an L A 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.080 N than a Texan. Her words, not mine. Annie also 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.480 has some great insights about how The Orville balances comedy 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:32.160 and drama and how she became Charlie Burke, Everyone's favorite 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:36.600 navigator who also happens to have some pretty special skills. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.000 You'll see what I mean here she is Annie Winters. Everyone, 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:52.520 Bubble and squeak. I love it. Bubble and squeak, Bubble 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.400 and squeaker, cooking at every more left over from the 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:11.880 nut before. What's happening? Hi? How are you? This is 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.280 my first interview over zoom like this. This is cool. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:21.000 Let me just say this, so far it's going great. Okay, nice, 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:25.360 so far, really well, so far, it's amazing. How are you. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.880 I'm good. I'm good. I'm about to go to New 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.160 York for the Upfronts tomorrow to you know, talk more 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.400 about this show that's coming out soon. So I'm excited. Congratulations. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:40.800 I remember my many years at the upfronts. Stay hydrated, okay, 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.240 with water. That's my one piece of advice is stay 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.520 hydrated with water. Yeah, that's a daily goal that I 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.600 try to try to uphold. So we're gonna talk about 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.720 the Orville launching like now shortly. I wanted to go 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.280 back with you though I understand you're from the great 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:03.680 state of Texas. Is Dallas, Texas is that right. Yes, 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.639 I am from Texas, but I've been out here for 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.000 about eleven years now, so I don't I consider myself 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:14.280 more in l A and and l A in Yeah, 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.519 like an alien, I'd like it. I like that. I 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.040 have not heard that. I actually just came up with 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.440 that because of the show and also in l A 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.160 and sounds cool, No, it sounds really cool. Well, I 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.880 don't know if you know this. I spent some time 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.919 in the great State of Texas, in the city of Dallas. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:36.880 I went to s m U. I am told that 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.400 you almost went to s m U as well, yes, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.120 hence the reaction. Yeah, yes, I almost went to s 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.680 m u UM. I had like the bumper sticker and everything. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.880 And what's funny is I went to audition for their 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.160 acting program because I was like, I just really want 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.680 a scholarship, you know, because SMUs like really it's a 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.440 big school money wise. So I went there and I 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.080 had already been working a little bit too in l A. Like, 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.400 I had done a couple of shows as a kid, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.640 and I had a resume, you know all that stuff. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.840 So I went there audition and they kind of looked 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.400 at me like, why are you wanting to come to 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.680 our acting school if you already have an agent manager 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.680 and you've worked in l A. And I was like, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.440 I don't know, that's just isn't that what we're doing now? 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.400 It's like college, And they're like, this is kind of 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.040 where we want our students to get to. So if 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.919 I were you, and they were just really honest with me, 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.839 they told me that I should differ for a year 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.560 see how it goes in l A. And if I 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.600 ever wanted to come back, I could, you know, come back. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.160 So I did that and then I never I never 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.479 went back. You never, You never went back. So you started, 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.360 as you just mentioned, you started acting early, so you 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.159 were a child actor. Was that an accurate statement? No? 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.120 Not really. Although my dream was to be on Disney 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.320 and be a child actor, that never really happened, and 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.159 I'm I'm kind of glad that it that my career 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.080 to not the way it did. No. I mean, I 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.479 still I still went to school. I would just take 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.760 off a couple of months here in there for pilot 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.720 season and come out to l A. And I did 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.480 a lot of local things in Dallas to like commercials 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.240 was a big thing. So I kind of thrived on commercials, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.960 and then I did one Nickelodeon pilot, but it didn't 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.000 really take me out of school for that long and 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.320 it didn't get picked up. It was with Hayley Steinfeld. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:20.239 Actually really yeah, like a long time ago. Nickelodeon Pilot 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.680 didn't get picked up. Yeah, but I mean when I 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.760 think of a child actor, I think of really young 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.800 I guess I really started taking it seriously when I 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.880 moved out here. I mean I had done a couple 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.279 other things in between, but school was kind of my 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.760 main priority because I didn't know what I wanted to do. Well. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.640 I mean, it sounds like you had, you had accomplished 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.839 enough that the good folks at my alma mater SMU 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.440 thought that, you know, you should give it, you should 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.520 give it a go. You were, you were going back 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.680 and forth from l A and Dallas, and I know 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:52.080 Dallas had started to establish quite a good film and 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.640 television A lot of stuff started getting filmed there, and 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.640 a lot of friends who went back there. Actually one 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.800 of our good family friends that we would stay with 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.080 in Valencia, they all were in Dallas for Prison Break. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.280 I think that I think that that was the show, right, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.320 every there was like a whole crew of people from 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.039 prison Break that moved to Dallas and we're living there 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.359 for a couple of years, and their kids went to 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.520 my school. We were all friends, and yeah, a lot 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.800 of things happening in Dallas. I do want to ask 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.440 you about that. When you were ten, you sang a 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.320 solo at the American Airlines Center, That is correct? Was 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.359 this the national anthem before a game? Or was this that? 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.279 What did you sing? I never sang the national anthem. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:29.560 I got asked a couple of times, and I was 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.800 so nervous because I was like, if I screw these 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.680 lyrics up, I will forever be known as like forgetting 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.279 the national anthem in front of everybody. Just I sang 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.920 a solo for our church on Easter and they had 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:45.119 like all the different churches, which in Dallas are massive things, 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.960 and it could fill the American Airlines Center. So I 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.760 sang a solo with the Veggie Tales as a ten 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.280 year old. It was really it was quite fun. The 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.800 Veggie Tales were there. They were there in real life. Yeah, 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:02.800 the little Tomato and l Larry the Tomato, No Larry, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.880 No Larry is the cucumber. I don't remember the tomatoes. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.159 I don't I don't remember what that I but I 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.040 know what you're talking about, the cucumber and the tomato, 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.600 and I don't I think some broccoli was there too. Yeah, Yeah, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.960 you decide not to go to s m U. What 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.160 was it about acting or the work in film and television? Like, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.000 what what was it that made you move to Los 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.600 Angeles at that time? I don't know. I mean, I've 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.440 just always liked performing. I was a competitive cheerleader. I 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.920 like being on stage. I don't know, I just always 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.160 like to challenge myself. And there was something about acting 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.440 that each and every opportunity was different, And it was 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.760 the kind of unknowing of when my next job is 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.800 going to be and knowing that I don't have to 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:51.800 necessarily have a specific maybe character or thing for the 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.160 rest of my life like a normal kind of job 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.320 just really was exciting to me, Like the unknowing of 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.240 it all. And also just you know, when I do 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.800 a scene and I feel like I can play a 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.960 different character and dive into something and I feel good 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.440 about it and it's completely different than something else I've done, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.560 It's just really fulfilling to me. Yeah, I noticed early 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.080 on you got quite a bit of work on a 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.640 variety of television shows, guest star stuff. I find as 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.480 an actor nothing more difficult than being a guest star. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.800 Because The Fosters was your first like recurring. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.880 so I'm talking about before The Fosters. Gosh, I don't 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.040 even I can't even look, you can't even remember. But 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.400 The Fosters is the first time. This is a big 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.560 show was on five years. It was the first time 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.120 that you showed up. You got to recur and come back. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.080 So that's what I was asking, Like, the difference between 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.080 that sort of coming in and just doing one job 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.600 and leaving that experience of of for the first time 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.560 being on a show, an established show that ran five years, 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.959 and getting to come back, what was that like? I mean, 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.480 that was really fun. That was That show was one 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.800 of my favorite shows to film because it was just 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.439 a bunch of kids. It was my first time being 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.040 in l a and like being surrounded by people kind 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.400 of my age, making friends and getting to work with 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:09.280 your friends and playing a really fun character. They actually 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.000 wanted me to come back for another season, but that 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.440 was at the same time that I had booked Tyrant 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.520 and I was a serious regular on that, so I 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.200 decided to do that instead. Um, I had no idea 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.640 that that that show would have such a longevity and 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.800 now they have like different spinoffs and everything. Yeah, did 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.520 you know when you were cast on that? Right, so 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.679 you're coming off doing you know, little things and you 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.000 get the Fosters. Did you know right away that it 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.040 would be recurring or did that just begin to evolve 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.080 and you started doing more episodes over time? Do you remember? Yeah? 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.880 I remember being like maybe two episodes and then they 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.800 kind of just would always say, hey, we want her 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.480 back for another one, or we want her back for 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.640 another one. Actually, my first day on set of that, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.400 I'll never forget the director who hired me. It was 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.760 the scene that I had auditioned with. And this is 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.240 like the one thing that I hate hearing from a 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.079 director and you're you're like, oh gosh, know is when 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.880 you're doing the scene that you audition with and they 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.720 hired you for and they're like, do it more like 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.440 your audition, you know, do it more like the original? 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.720 And I'm like, oh, no, I suck. I didn't. I'm 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.520 not doing it right. I'm not doing it right. And 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.000 I was like freaking out, like what did I do 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.160 in the audition? I don't know. I thought I was 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.040 going to get fired. Actually that was my first instinct. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.320 I was like, the director said, I didn't do it right. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.080 I'm going to get fired on my first job. This 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.760 is so embarrassing. And then I ended up coming back 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.680 a lot. So no, that's awesome. But that's sort of 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.240 what I was talking about before, that experience, like everybody 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.400 knows each other, and now it sounds like eventually, you know, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.120 became an incredible experience for you and you made friends. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.959 But you're there, you've auditioned, you don't really know what 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.000 the show is, and you try to do it and they, yeah, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.400 they say something like that, which is like, do it 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.000 like your audition, which of course is the worst. You 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:55.880 want to be in the moment and you want to 0:10:55.920 --> 0:11:00.440 be alive and and interacting with your scene partner, and 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.560 it's like no, no, no, go back and do it 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.000 like you did when you were alone on your sofa 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:09.920 or whatever. I find that so I find that so difficult. Yeah, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.679 or like just do less, you know, just do less. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.240 Don't be as prepared. That was another note too. I 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.000 will never forget getting on set. I'm like, just do 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.319 less okay with energy Okay, great, those two I can 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.280 totally bind together and try to do a good job. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.080 When they tell me to do less, I just do more. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.840 So just don't worry, just don't just ignore, just ignore 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.560 that they just want something different. Eventually you get cast 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.960 as Lauren in sand Castles. Do you remember the moment 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.480 you found out about that? Yes, that was my first 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:47.240 indie movie and first booking after moving out here for real. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.520 And actually I was doing community college, taking a couple 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.439 of classes because I kind of wanted to stay up 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.959 on my school just in case. And um, I booked 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.280 that within like a week, and I asked the school 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.640 if they would work with me on you know, going 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.520 out to Indiana because that's where it filmed, and they 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.400 were like, no, we don't work with actors, and I 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.240 was like, oh, okay, well then I quit school, so 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.440 then I left. But no, it was I found that 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.200 was actually kind of more of a It wasn't, I 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.920 guess as exciting as like maybe the Fosters and stuff. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.640 I knew a lot of the people that were doing it, 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.360 and my acting coach still at this time, Saxon Trainer, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.560 who I love, was going to be playing my mom, 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:29.839 and so I got basically like a month of acting schooling, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.360 working with her every single day, with her being kind 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.520 of there on set and being my mom. But that 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.480 was just like that going to Indiana having my first 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.240 film and working with all those people. Really, I think 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.760 was a cool experience for my first thing to do 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:50.160 out here. You're still working with her, that acting teacher. Yes, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.760 she is the only acting coach I've ever been, even 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.800 when I came out here for months at a time. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.760 Do you bring the work from the class into the 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.920 roles that you're doing or do you try to let 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.080 that be on the side, use that as exercise, you 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:09.120 know what? Good question? I mean, to be honest, I 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.800 once I started kind of working and having so many auditions, 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.960 I didn't really go to her classes. I just have 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:18.040 private sessions with her on each character. So I kind 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.640 of go in there and talk about each character like 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.680 a therapy session and kind of get to the bottom 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.680 of it, make it a little bit different, and we'll 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.680 kind of like assess a background story for the size 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.480 if we don't have a script and that kind of thing. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.360 So it's kind of we work together character by character. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.680 So I don't I don't have like certain techniques that 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.320 she would have taught, you know what I mean, Like 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:42.040 outside of an audition. That's interesting that you use another 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.120 person as you're creating, you know, the specific character for 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:50.319 specific roles. Do you ever think about your characters physically, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:56.880 like how they move or behave physically. Yes, I mean 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.720 that's just kind of I would like to say happens 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.760 a little little bit naturally. Like I mean, Charlie on 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.800 the Orville is going to be more structured and like 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.480 headheld high, especially in our costumes. Then maybe you know 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.640 the daughter on Tyrant where I'm like chilling by the point. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.559 I mean, it's just you have a little bit of 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.800 a different mannerisms. But I think it comes just based 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.920 off what you're thinking about as the character naturally, if 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.280 that makes sense. Yeah, Like I don't think too hard 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.680 about the motions, but I think it kind of comes 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.320 through if you're in tune with the character in general. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.720 You worked on a bunch of films Past The Light, 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.920 The Bride, He bought online a Mom and Dad, So 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.960 every audition you would get, you would work with your 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.400 acting teacher. Yeah, And every time I would book something, 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.240 we would schedule like different sessions and go through the 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.040 entire script to kind of map out the different things, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.840 because you know, you don't film things in order. So 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.800 I always wanted to maintain that arc that you may 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.720 not remember on that day of set that you've already 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.800 been through or is going to happen, so that it 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.080 all maps out, like, well, people don't realize that you 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.560 don't film things in order. My favorite story, my weirdest story. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.880 I don't even know if it's favorite. I did an 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.920 episode of Criminal Minds, which is very bizarre show anyway, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.920 because the guest star that comes in as like a 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.560 serial killer or whatever, that person becomes the lead of 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.960 the episode, like it's about that person, and all of 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:46.440 the series regulars are kind of supporting that person. I 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.600 show up and it's like the Docks of Long Beach, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.720 Day one, the Docks of Long Beach, like a seven 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:57.280 pm to seven am shoot, and we filmed the scene 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.040 where I eventually get caught or whatever, and I deliver 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.040 what is like a three page monologue about why I'm 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.760 this person that I am, and this is the first 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.120 thing that we shoot, and I I struggled so much 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.160 with that because I was like, well, I don't even 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.360 know who this guy is. We haven't talked, and now 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.080 we're starting at the end in a way have to 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.760 work reverse. We have to now put together all of 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.200 the pieces that add up to what that last scene did. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.400 It's very interesting and very smart, I think too, to 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.320 have that arc in place before you start filming. Especially, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.520 I always have, like each scene, I have all my 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.280 notes next to it, so it has the different things 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.400 that I've been in or whatever, so I'm prepared for 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.479 each anything that they throw at me for that day, 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.560 unless it was like supposed to be a month later 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:46.960 or something, and then they're like, oh, you're doing your 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.080 monologue today. I'm like, Nope, not ready for that. I 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.520 thought that that was next month. But other than that, yeah, 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.320 usually the day is pretty pretty solid. That's all. Hey, 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.000 you know we have some extra time today, can we 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.800 shoot scene forty three? And now then you're and you're like, oh, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:05.720 my gosh, that's my biggest scene. But unless you're playing, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.040 like like even on the Fosters, like that's like a 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.280 show that you may not need to do that as 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.720 much because they kind of start setting up different storylines 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.840 and then you kind of fall into that storyline where 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.440 I feel like you can be natural with your best 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.680 friend or the boyfriend, like you already have that backstory 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.080 because it's been going on for a while. So it's 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.000 just kind of playing a little bit more with movies. 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.240 For sure. Mom and Dad was really fun. Nicolas Cage. 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.880 I'm so excited to see his new movie. Nicolas Cage 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.720 and Salma Blair were my parents and they were trying 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.920 to kill me the whole time, and that was like 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.600 just the greatest. So that movie and the Bride he 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.080 bought online, they were both thrillers. Is that is that 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:49.680 fun to do? Yeah, it's thrilling. Yeah, I actually really 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:54.040 do like thrillers are fun because I like being at 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.639 high stakes as an actor because it just makes for 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.679 a fun day for me. Yeah, and also like the 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.959 act and like the running and the falling down and 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.320 like the screaming and the you know, getting her hands dirty, 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.960 like I don't know, just it's just a little bit 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.280 more kind of a free for all that feels fun 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.480 to me. But I really love, I mean drama, Like, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.480 you know, I wouldn't want to just be running around 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:20.040 and screaming all day, so I like intensity. I guess 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.200 speaking of drama, I want to talk a little bit 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.800 about your time on Zach and Mia talk about your 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.840 time on that. The process of getting that role. I 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.040 kind of forget how that came about. I didn't audition 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.840 like normally. That was something that they were doing with 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.840 Awesomeness TV at the time, and they had asked me 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.880 if I was interested in reading the book to see 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:41.960 if I was interested in the character, and I did, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:43.720 and I was I was like, Wow, this is great. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.200 I would love to do this. I really loved just 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.400 the storyline. It was the best thing that I've ever 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.879 FILMD because it was two characters and our director was 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:57.239 so incredible, um like as an acting director, and I 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.159 felt like we just got all the time and we 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.159 really got to put in our best work for every 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.920 single scene. And there was not like one scene where 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.960 I didn't walk away thinking like, oh we you know, 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.520 didn't have time to get the best thing. It just 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:14.040 felt like I exceeded my own expectations for myself on 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.280 that whole show that I was really like proud of. 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.960 And the other actor, Keyan Lolly, he's a YouTuber and 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.159 this was kind of his first acting thing, and I was, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.160 you know, not gonna lie. I didn't know how how 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.320 YouTubers were going to be on set, and he was incredible, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.399 and our chemistry was great. It was just it was 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:36.400 a really really fun and beautiful, pretty show. That's awesome. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.640 There's nothing better than that, right, working with an actor's director, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:44.280 having the time to really explore and talk and kind 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.920 of get to the root of it. I assume you mean, 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.600 you know, you weren't spending a ton of time on lighting, 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.919 setups and you know, makeup or getting your like you 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:57.520 said before, your hands dirty, and it's just about It's 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.720 just about the work and those characters. That is certainly 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.600 for me the most fun as well. Yeah, you and 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.960 I have have another thing in common. For Zach and Mia. 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:12.280 You were nominated and eventually one a Daytime Emmy Award. 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.840 I am the recipient of a Daytime Emmy Award as well. Yes, 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.200 it's a it's a fun thing. You were there at 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.440 the ceremony. How was that experience for you? I mean 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.840 that still goes down in the books. That is probably 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:30.320 greatest moment of my life. You know, that's to even 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.520 be working a working actress in l a is. I'm 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.280 so grateful and to be nominated, have your work even 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:41.040 noticed by other people as really great is like another thing, 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.160 and to win was just like, oh my gosh, I 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.480 I freaking did it. You know, like I am on 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.680 the right track of knowing that this is like where 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:52.639 I'm supposed to be in life. And I did a 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.600 really good job and people noticed, and that was like, 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.879 that's the part that I love. You know, when your 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.600 work gets admired by other people, that's awesome. It's one 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.280 of my favorite nights as well. I think for me 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.560 it was a it was a little bit different, but 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.080 it was an opportunity. Angela Ckenzie and Oscar nun Yez 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.480 and I wait, I didn't know that The Office would 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:16.760 be a daytime. We won for The Accountants, which was 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.120 the first web series, so it was it was streaming. Yeah, 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:24.679 that was that. You talked a little bit about Tyrant 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.600