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Speaker 1: over this, but I would like the opinion from non family.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to keep this as short as possible, but

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Speaker 1: gladly add extra info in a comment. Oh and also

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Speaker 1: this comes from Tasty Helicopter nine oh four on the

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Speaker 1: r slash okay story time subreddit. You have a story,

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Speaker 1: where can they go? John our size?

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Speaker 2: Okay story time, that's right, put it there.

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Speaker 1: This started at the end of last year. My job

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Speaker 1: stock ownership. So I said af you guys, and decided

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Speaker 1: to leave town and stay and bring my family out

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Speaker 1: to where I actually wanted to live for a long time.

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Speaker 1: This decision ended up not being popular with my parents,

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Speaker 1: specifically my mother, who did not like that she woulted

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Speaker 1: to get to see her grandkids thirteen mail, ten mail

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Speaker 1: and seventh female nearly as often instead of three miles away.

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Speaker 1: It would be a eight hour drive. This dine factor

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Speaker 1: into my plans though, as I was working on getting

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Speaker 1: everything set and my wife slash kids were excited.

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Speaker 3: Dude, grandparents are rabbit. There's something about like your kid

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Speaker 3: having a kid that just turns you fairal.

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Speaker 1: My mom does say whenever I was talking about Angie,

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Speaker 1: like yeah, like, you know, it's looking good, She's like,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna stay in La forever. Right, You're gonna

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Speaker 3: My mom is like, oh, I'll come out to you guys.

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Speaker 3: And I've told her all, I'll just get you an apartment.

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Speaker 1: Like a mother is already very protective over their own child,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like it goes to another level whenever

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Speaker 3: It doubles in every layer. You heard it here first, okay, storytime?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Wow wow. So it makes sense why she's upset. In March,

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Speaker 1: the school year ended on June third. My parents graciously

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Speaker 1: knew it would be stressful, but oh boy, did I

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Speaker 3: They're going into the lines. Then they're gonna trap them.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna trap them, conspiracy theory, take them hostage.

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Speaker 2: But did I see you in the comments?

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Speaker 1: If you see where that's headed, I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be with ropes and gags. It'll be with

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Speaker 1: twizzlers and YouTube. The grandparents are.

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Speaker 2: Gonna trap them. That was very very stark visual anology.

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Speaker 1: Mister, there you go, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what happened.

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Speaker 1: The first couple of weeks weren't too bad, but then

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Speaker 3: Wow, And to quickly break that down, So basically, op,

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's not going to.

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Speaker 2: They're watching it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like, oh, for the summers is not

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Speaker 3: We literally just said that in.

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Speaker 1: We called it. We did called oh I see because

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Speaker 2: Let's freaking go okay, but what okay? What's going on next?

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Speaker 1: It took everything, and me everything I had not to

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Speaker 3: What is it with these like older parents that want

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Speaker 1: Just stick it out. God, it'd be fun. You know,

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, what the excels in her hometown. That's why

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Speaker 4: That's why with her I like that. That could definitely

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Speaker 1: Oh that was my mom, I'd be so sad. She

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this Just lose all your money and

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is that too much to ask? Lose all your money

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Speaker 1: Have a miserable life, and stick beside me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that'll make me happy.

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Speaker 1: Ay yeah yeah. But the big kicker was when I

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Speaker 3: Even blood isn't good enough for her. She's like, she's like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah. Then I asked if my wife and

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Speaker 1: At that I was done. I didn't talk to her

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Speaker 1: They were there for seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Days because they're there in the month transition period between

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Speaker 3: so they had a month where they've been living with him.

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Speaker 4: This could be a blessing, you know. Oh yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: like now he knows how she really feels.

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Speaker 2: Mmmm and then you move recording only.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like if he weren't in this situation where he

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: Do you conspiracy theorize that he will now? Do you

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Speaker 4: I think he's on he's on the road, cutting on

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Speaker 1: Oh, what's the dad doing? Good?

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Speaker 2: Question?

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Speaker 4: Is he alive?

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Speaker 2: Whose dad?

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Speaker 2: You mean? Oh yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: My conspiracy theory there is this is the classic mom

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Speaker 1: I see, I want to know where they live. It's

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Speaker 1: What south of America? Not South America, but South where

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Speaker 5: know and love our boy, right yeah yeah yeah, but

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Speaker 5: what do we got next? We got this next. Now,

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Speaker 5: it needs to be said that this by no means

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Speaker 1: My wife has been dealing with my mother's insensitive and

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Speaker 1: frankly mean comments for almost nine years. At that point,

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Speaker 1: me and my wife have been to two different counselors

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Speaker 1: we've been working four years to establish boundaries that have

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Speaker 1: just got ignored. Ninety percent of our fights were either

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Speaker 1: you got you got it, Cudy Ooh, that price is

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Speaker 1: way too high. You have to, Cudie, dude, think about

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Speaker 1: the thousands of dollars they wasted over this?

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Speaker 2: What in the counselors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not wasted, I mean, of course, you know, just.

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Speaker 2: Having to go through that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nine years, nine years, that's time you can't buy back.

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Speaker 2: You can't do it. Could have been recording content during

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Speaker 1: Could have an awesome YouTube channel by then, But no,

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Speaker 1: you're here with traumas well. Cut your mom's off and

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Speaker 1: make YouTube channels. That's what none of us did. Wait, Anthony,

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Speaker 1: how's you and your mom?

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Speaker 1: Many people are commenting on the illegal adoption process. My

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Speaker 3: Oh, it sounds like he thought that he had legally

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Speaker 1: Because if you legally adopt the kids, do they still

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Speaker 3: I have truly have no idea. It's probably split.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's probably a split between possibly all three

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. By the way, you could

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Speaker 1: What do you do, John?

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Speaker 2: Tap the profile? Just do it?

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Speaker 1: At two? It appears as if I got was not

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Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, so it sounds like maybe he's like allowed

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Speaker 4: Is that what you're hearing, Anthony, U sounds right? It

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it doesn't change a story, just it helps

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Speaker 1: My question is why, as you're signing it doesn't it

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Speaker 4: This is tough because it makes other factors of the

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Speaker 4: It's just like the whole thing. It's just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's it is true that it is an

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Speaker 4: Saying legal legal guardianship doesn't really mean anything different in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, And chattogreas ninety eight percent two percent. Listen

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Speaker 1: We want to see you too.

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Speaker 3: If our poll is a survey for everyone, there's one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the end of that story. We have a

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Speaker 3: For you, someone you've never seen in your life ever ever,

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Speaker 1: What I would consider probably the second handsome man in

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Speaker 1: and it's not me.

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Speaker 2: He is a gentleman, Samuel Riley.

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Speaker 1: You want to come over here? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: My wife's dead husband's parents are obsessed with my daughter.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a little uncomfortable. I've been married to my

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Speaker 2: she got married pretty young, but her husband died. I

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Speaker 2: until now. The ghost is coming hot. Also, this comes

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Speaker 2: from our slash Okay storytime subreddit. Submit your stories over there.

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Speaker 2: See she's still pretty close with her dead husband's parents.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you should say late husband. Dead husband.

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Speaker 2: Just feels so aggressive. Yeah, and it also makes me

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Speaker 4: They only had one.

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Speaker 2: They've been coming over to our place about once a week.

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Speaker 2: It was fine at first, but it's gotten kind of suffocated,

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Speaker 2: kind of feel like ex husband. They have been visiting.

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Speaker 2: They didn't say that. They have visited us more time

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Speaker 2: The jet Alpha's length a lot, which is usually fine,

447
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 2: but they have made some comments that made me uncomfortable.

448
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 2: They even said, my daughter kind of looks like him. Whoa, whoa.

449
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that means anything, but I'm also just

450
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: saying it. Could you know you got together nine months

451
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 2: after that that he died?

452
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: Like, but that's not his kid though right.

453
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 2: It is not allegedly allegedly could have some immaculate conception

454
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: going on exactly, ghosts coming back from the dead, delivering

455
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 2: some ghost babies, ghost ghosts coming, ghosts do be coming.

456
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 2: And his mom even said, oh, if she's this cute,

457
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: imagine how cute your kids would have been if only

458
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 2: when talking to my wife. M M, she was gonna

459
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: say more, but I think she realized what she was

460
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 2: about to say, and I was right there. I want

461
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: to be amicable, and I know that there was gonna

462
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: be some moments like this, but it's starting to make

463
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: me feel really uncomfortable. There is an update, but question

464
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: for Riley and John and Anthony what would you do

465
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 2: in this situation? First is like, is Opie the a

466
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 2: hole in any way for being uncomfortable with this? And like,

467
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: what do you say to these comments? One no, not

468
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: at all?

469
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: And then two I think either like sit down, write

470
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 3: a letter like whatever is best to get your point

471
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: across and be like I'm glad you're in my life,

472
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,239
Speaker 3: like which it sounds like Ope is like generally, but like,

473
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 3: we need to create some boundaries on these things because

474
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 3: this is you know, oh, Pee's still grieving. I'm sure

475
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 3: you know, not saying oh I wish my dead son

476
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 3: could have had babies with Like could we just do that?

477
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 2: Is that possible? I think so? Like to remind everyone,

478
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: the characters are Ope, Ope's wife, and then Ope's wife's

479
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 2: dead ex husband, and also Ope's wife's parents, right, and

480
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 2: so I think it might need to come from Ope's

481
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: wife to talk to the parents if the parents are

482
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: making op so uncomfortable with all of this, like your

483
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: dead ex husband so hot thing and you would have

484
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: better babies. Let me know, like I think it needs

485
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: to come maybe from Opie's wife.

486
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 3: I'm out to be confused. Yeah, I thought it was

487
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: the dead partner's parents.

488
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: So yes, dead partner's parents, but I still think, sorry, yes,

489
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 2: but I guess they were like like parents by law,

490
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 2: So I think, like I would have, like Opie's wife

491
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: is the connection to the dead parents. So I feel

492
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 2: like the wife should talk to the like her her

493
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 2: parents in law.

494
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 3: Whoever has the the closest and strongest tie should be

495
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 3: the one in relationship should be the one to say that,

496
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: especially if they're saying this directly to.

497
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 2: Op exactly exactly. Yeah, So it definitely is a complex situation,

498
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: but I think it I think you kind of need

499
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: to like do a little little little get together with

500
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: with your wife and then maybe draft a message from.

501
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: Her communicate that. But it's not on op Yeah.

502
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be harder to communicate coming

503
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: from op And and the reason I think it would

504
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: be harder to communicate coming from Opie is the parents

505
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: might interpret it as him just being jealous, whereas and

506
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 2: are like, oh, you're just jealous because my son was

507
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: so much harder than you. And I think if it

508
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: comes from OPI's wife, then it might not come across

509
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: that way. You're here, you heard a dear verse. So

510
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 2: we do have some relevant comments and a juicy, thick update.

511
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: So leaving for me says, not the a hole. They

512
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: are clinging to you guys in the wake of losing

513
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: their son, but there needs to be boundaries in place.

514
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: It begins with a conversation with your wife and working

515
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: in unison. What does she say that, Opie says. My

516
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: wife thinks it's fine. She says she sees them the

517
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: same as her own parents, which I get the vibe.

518
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: I get that vibe. Why are you laughing?

519
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 4: I'm just laughing at nah?

520
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: So background camp seven seven one two says, nah, nah,

521
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: you are understandably uncomfortable with the situation. Your wife loves

522
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: these people like her own parents, which often blinds us

523
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: to boundary stomping. The late husband's parents are grieving and

524
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: need more therapy to help them have a healthy relationship

525
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: with your wife and child. Next time you bring it

526
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 2: up to your wife, focus on how it makes you

527
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: feel and how you think that it can be detrimental

528
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: to your child. Oh Na means no a holes here,

529
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: Oh no a holes here? Yeah, like I did read

530
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 2: it as nah, yeah. It might help you reframe the

531
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: discussion to ask her to imagine how intrusive this would

532
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: be if these were your in laws, because regardless of

533
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: the relationship, they are intruding on your life, your home,

534
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: and potentially your child's mental well being. Every time your

535
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: wife tells you it's okay, remind her that it's not

536
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: okay with you, and don't stop reminding her until the

537
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: two of you are able to come to an agreement

538
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 2: that is workable for both of you. I say this

539
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: from the puv of having seen my late sistern in

540
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: law's mother lose her mind after my sister in law died.

541
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: She tried to a custody of the kids away from

542
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: my brother. Everything about her grieving process was incredibly toxic

543
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: to those around her. You are much better off here

544
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: than my brother was, but that doesn't mean you have

545
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: to give up your peace of mind in your own home.

546
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: You're the dad and you get to have to say

547
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: in how your kid is raised, treated and spoken to.

548
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 2: And the judgment from Olive Retta is not the A

549
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: hole I do think there are. I wouldn't say no

550
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: a holes here. I'm Here's what you guys think. Yeah,

551
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: I agree.

552
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: I think there's like a responsibility here to again, like

553
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 3: we said earlier, communicate to the parents. And that's not

554
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: on OP, right because the he's partner is the one

555
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: that has to close.

556
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think the parents are a holes either.

557
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: They're grieving and it's not coming from a place of

558
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: like hatred like Malicent. It's just sort of like a

559
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: place of sadness. You don't know what do the sadness

560
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: they're saying, Hey, O p our some was hotter form.

561
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not like this.

562
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: I think one which is actually I don't think we've

563
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 3: talked about a lot on the show, and is kind

564
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: of a good point to talk about. It's like you

565
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: should obviously support and gives people space for grieving. Just

566
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: because someone is grieving, that doesn't mean they can, you know,

567
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 3: do something detrimental to you.

568
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think if they're I don't think they're

569
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: intentional a holes. Yeah, but I think they are a

570
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: holes out like because of what they're doing. They're they're

571
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: they're making OP uncomfortable in their own home. Op has

572
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: expressed the discomfort, and I think an a hole feels

573
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: like harsh for someone dealing with grief, which I realize,

574
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: but that is the only barometer we have on this

575
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: show to judge people. Yeah, exactly, So he's saying loud

576
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: and brown. I think the wife is like more the

577
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: a hole than the parents because she's the one that

578
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: needs to establish boundaries. Yeah, she's not saying to happen,

579
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: she's letting it happen. After OPI said, this makes me uncomfortable,

580
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: which is I think the a whole move is so.

581
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, when did the husband die? Agin? The dead husband?

582
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: Uh, the one that's sixty deep brought in ground that one.

583
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't think we have clarity on that, but again

584
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: there is a update.

585
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: Okay, hopefully we have clarity because I'm confused. If it's

586
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: been ten years ago, yeah, and they're doing this, ten

587
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: years would be like what it was like three two years?

588
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: That makes sense Also, like I imagine it has to

589
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: be a little while because she has a child with

590
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: another man, unless it was unless.

591
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: Least nine months.

592
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, turn right around after the funeral. You meet someone

593
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: at the funeral? Yeah, what is that from wedding crashers?

594
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, you thought weddings were good

595
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: places to talk to girls but actually funerals more emotionally

596
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: raw than weddings. Don't do that.

597
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 4: Mah, what is she doing in there?

598
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: Four days later, so I had a talk with my

599
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: wife about her dead husband's parents, and like clockwork, they

600
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: actually came this week too. I'm actually writing this. After

601
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: they left and had to talk with my wife. I

602
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: told my wife that the frequency of these visits is

603
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: becoming too much and their comments are bothering me. My

604
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: wife really didn't realize how the comments sounded until I

605
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: explained them to her. I told her I don't mind

606
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: them coming over from now and then, but that I

607
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: want to spend time with her and our daughter when

608
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: I am not tired from work. She promised me she

609
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: would talk to them and would make sure they gave

610
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: us our space and that they would stop with the comments.

611
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: She also apologized for not saying anything, and that while

612
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: she still loves her dead husband, she loves me and

613
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: would never treat me as anything less than her husband

614
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: and father of her daughter. But who do you love more?

615
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think things turned out okay. Also, I

616
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: got a vent on something that kept popping up. The

617
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: child is my biological daughter. Some of you can't read

618
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: and there are some irrelevant comments to close us out

619
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: that I won't read because OPI didn't respond, oh goodbye,

620
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: but we can talk about it. Yeah, so what do

621
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: you think.

622
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: I think that the wife definitely stepped up more than

623
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: in the past.

624
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: And maybe it.

625
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: Was the grief reality distortion fields, trying to you know,

626
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: not play Kate but acquiesce the parents and be kind

627
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: to the parents that cause this reality distortion field. And

628
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: you know, it seems like she understands that it's been

629
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: broken down. It seems like boundaries are being established. As

630
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: long as those are upheld, I think we could be

631
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: in the clear.

632
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: I wonder how the parents will take it, because I

633
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: think Ope's wife feels like she understands, but I wonder

634
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: if the parents will also understand. It feels like Opie's

635
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: wife is like the only connection that they really have

636
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: to their son. It's almost like they're making pilgrimages to

637
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: their son by seeing the ex wife. Yeah, it's a

638
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: vicarious it's a vicarious relationship. And also if they're seeing

639
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: like similarities and how their son looked with the daughter,

640
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: they're like, that's basically my son's daughter. It is dangerous territory.

641
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: I honestly think if the boundaries are not respected vigorously,

642
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: it could be an eventual no contact yeah, or.

643
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: At least a distance or at least a distance at

644
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: least low contact.

645
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: My question is that earlier he did talk to his

646
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: wife about this, How did he communicate it? Is she

647
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: listened now and said something and did something. Was he

648
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: communicating clearly beforehand that he was bothered by this?

649
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: Mate? Potentially not. I think what's great about Reddit and

650
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: also this show is like people are sometimes for the

651
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 2: first time, putting their thoughts and feelings down on paper,

652
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: and when it's all in your head, like it could

653
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: be like, am I making this bigger than it needs

654
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: to be? Is it? Like? Like, is this really as

655
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: serious as it is? And it might be the first

656
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: time that he's realizing that it's as serious as he

657
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: thinks it is and thus is able to communicate it.

658
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: So I think you could be right. It could be

659
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: the first time he's actually doing that effectively. Effectively. Yeah,

660
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: you're welcome, But that's where this episode ends. That's where

661
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: the kokie crumbles. So if you love us, make sure

662
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,360
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Speaker 2: is an episode from deep within the archives. Time for

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Speaker 2: okop relam.

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Speaker 3: I'm just so mad because my wedding isn't vegan, so

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Speaker 3: my stepmom wants to cancel the wedding.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I did.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: These vegans are getting more and more militant. You know,

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Speaker 2: first they were trying to save the trees, and then

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Speaker 2: the bees, and then now they're trying to cancel weddings.

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Speaker 2: The bees and trees actually have nothing to do with vegans,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I just love vegans and tree huggers

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Speaker 2: and be b butts.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the bees are like like maybe the vegans are like,

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Speaker 3: we can't let them know our next move, so they're

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Speaker 3: they're coming for the bees. Next they're like, you thought

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Speaker 3: we'd rock with the bees. No, we cancel them the bees. Oh,

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Speaker 3: they cancel the vegans then done. Actually vicious. A few

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Speaker 3: days ago, I saw a bee completely dismantle a dragonfly

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Speaker 3: and it carried away, you know, the little like like

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Speaker 3: it's like the dragonfly. Yeah, and then it has a

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Speaker 3: little butt. It chopped off its butt and then flew

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Speaker 3: away with the butt. Dang bro bees be out crazy.

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Speaker 3: But vegans, I think, are We're crazier than those bees?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's find out. I'm thirty, and since I was

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Speaker 3: a child, I've always.

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Speaker 2: Said that I would jump off a bridge when I

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Speaker 2: turned thirty because it's all down the hill from there.

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Speaker 3: I'm just a sack of bones ready to die. Since

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Speaker 3: I was a child, my dad has always said that

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Speaker 3: he wanted to pay for my wedding. About five years ago,

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Speaker 3: he started a relationship with a lady with some quite

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Speaker 3: extreme views.

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Speaker 2: What are those extreme views? Johnny Boy? Eating plants? This murder?

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Speaker 2: Not just kidding, pro plant murder? Hardcore? Can vegans be

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Speaker 2: tree huggers? Or are the anti trees because they eat

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Speaker 2: the trees to surround they're tree murderers? Like save there,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. Fricking killing all the broccoli.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, a Chick fil a is like

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Speaker 3: eat more chicken. It's a bunch of cows. It's going

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Speaker 3: to be like a bunch of trees, like eat more meat.

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Speaker 3: And they're like, save.

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Speaker 2: Us, please, save the trees please.

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Speaker 3: Now, my stepmom is a vegan, which is totally fine,

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Speaker 3: but she is very judgmental to how I live.

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Speaker 1: Is it fine though?

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Speaker 2: Is it okay? But it doesn't sound like you're fine

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Speaker 2: with it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For example, she doesn't agree with cancer scans like smear tests, mammograms,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, because vegans, quote donte get cancer.

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Speaker 2: You know, one way to remove a cancerous group of

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Speaker 2: people is for them to all believe the k kit cancer.

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Speaker 2: I'd never get a check up. Okay. Now I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying vegans are all vegans are about. I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: the ones that judge you for not being vegan can

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Speaker 2: go uh not suck a like, you know, because that

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Speaker 2: would not be vegan, not the pig. Can vegans do oral?

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Speaker 2: Or is that anti vegan? Is like putting any animal

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Speaker 2: meat in your mouth? Yeah? Get even sausage means you

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Speaker 2: get Nope, none of that. Vegans are anti kuddling meet

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Speaker 2: for you. We're just this is the anti vegan campaign

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Speaker 2: over here. Geez, I don't. I don't hate on vegans,

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Speaker 2: just the ones they on me.

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Speaker 3: I actually I actually rock with vegans, but I feel

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Speaker 3: like we're ron swansoning today, So I'm rocking with it.

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Speaker 2: Now. Do you rock with the vegans that are like

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Speaker 2: I've just never run into them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My roommate's actually a vegan and she's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Super chill vegan. Now, when I had my daughter, she said,

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Speaker 3: I should be feeding her almond milk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually terrible for your baby. That's terrible almond

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Speaker 2: milk for you, dude, You will literally malnourish your child

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Speaker 2: if you do that.

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Speaker 3: It's worth it, because guess what, it doesn't come from

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Speaker 3: a brazen vegan.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather have your child survive into adulthood or

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Speaker 2: would you rather, I guess a cow have one less

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Speaker 2: gallon of milk drained? There we go. Now we're talking

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Speaker 2: cows literally need us to milk them or they have

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable utters. Their utters will explode, their utters have to explode.

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Speaker 3: Sam and she once came to my house for dinner,

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Speaker 3: and I cooked a chicken for me and my family

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Speaker 3: and a nut roast for my father and her.

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Speaker 2: Which Loki kind of hilarious. That is a nut roast.

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Speaker 3: She later dug a hole in my garden to give

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Speaker 3: the chicken bones a proper funeral because she was so

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Speaker 3: heartbroken to see us eating blood and flesh.

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Speaker 2: That's like Michael Scott going like, we must give a

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Speaker 2: funeral for this bird. It's cute, it's funny, but it's

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Speaker 2: a little over the top oh, he says, I wish

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Speaker 2: I was joking.

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Speaker 3: She also accused me of trying to steal her father's house. Okay, what,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing, Sam, I've never met her father. I've

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Speaker 3: never set foot in her father's house. All I know

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Speaker 3: is that her father passed away recently. I had communicated

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Speaker 3: some cost of living worries to my dad, not asking

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Speaker 3: for money, though, and she ran with it and said

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Speaker 3: I was trying to manipulate her into giving me her

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Speaker 3: entire inheritance. I do not want her inheritance. This escalated quickly. Baby,

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Speaker 3: this lady I think might be crazy. I feel like

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Speaker 3: they put like crazy vegan, like haha, like you wanna

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Speaker 3: don't want to eat cows, crazy vegan, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But I think this is like a legitimately mentally ill vegan.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm worried about the mental state of this vegan

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Speaker 2: because she seems delusional. This is bad.

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Speaker 3: This is like everyone jokes, but they're like like vegan people.

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Speaker 3: I feel like vegan people you actually meet are never

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Speaker 3: like actually like this.

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Speaker 2: This lady is actually like that. She is single handedly

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Speaker 2: giving the name and reputation vegans currently have, which is

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Speaker 2: that they're trying to take your meats away from you.

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Speaker 3: Now, long story short, my father will only pay for

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Speaker 3: the wedding.

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Speaker 2: If it's vegan. That's so lame. The only way low key.

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Speaker 2: The vegans as much shit as we have given them

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Speaker 2: in this podcast. The vegans have been at work like

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Speaker 2: they're making freakin' cauliflower tastes like puna is insane. Vegan

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Speaker 2: vegan dishes are low key, like they can be fired

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Speaker 2: and they can taste like the real thing.

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Speaker 3: But Sam, the vegan wedding does not only include the food,

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Speaker 3: but shoes, alcohol, other things people wear, like leather, and

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Speaker 3: literally anything else you can think of.

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Speaker 2: So no one could wear leather like a loveather belt. No,

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Speaker 2: so someone wears a leather belt, they're uninvited from the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Is that like how strict they're that's kint it crazy,

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Speaker 2: that's crazy. They should have vegan security. Bat leather, get up,

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Speaker 2: get um boys, let's strip him take his leather, turn

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Speaker 2: turn turn get into human leather. Oh yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 3: Now, Opie says, I might have been okay with vegan food,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not okay with policing what other people wear

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Speaker 3: or food they might bring. Or their baby formula, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Baby formula. Come on, bro, excuse me? Are you beating

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Speaker 2: your baby with your big ass titties? Uh? No, way,

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Speaker 2: that ain't vegan basic.

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Speaker 3: There you this upset me. I can imagine. It's not

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Speaker 3: really about the money. We're having a very small and

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Speaker 3: cheap wedding anyways, it's the run up to the wedding

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Speaker 3: that this woman has also been extremely rude to my mother.

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Speaker 3: On reflection, I have now decided that it's best all

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Speaker 3: around to kick.

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Speaker 2: Them out of the wedding. Damn, they're gone. No daddy,

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Speaker 2: no step mommy, my stepmommy. Sounds sounds like not a

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Speaker 2: loss dad. Maybe a little bit of a loss though. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that dad's a loss time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but Dad, he's supporting it though, like he's doing.

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Speaker 2: To vegan mommy. He must be getting some of that

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Speaker 2: good good because this woman's definitely crazy and for him

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Speaker 2: to be just given into all of this crazy shits,

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Speaker 2: she's given him some something on the side. There is

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Speaker 2: one kind of meat that he that that she is consumed.

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Speaker 2: That that's all, or you know, maybe he's just praying

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Speaker 2: at the temple, her vegan temple. Who knows who knows,

816
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Speaker 2: but she's she's got him. She's got something for sure,

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Speaker 2: She's definitely she adds him by the balls and she

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Speaker 2: has something because God knows, her personality is not winning

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Speaker 2: any affection. Oh lord, no, sir.

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Speaker 3: And now she's telling my dad's side of the family

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Speaker 3: that it's just because of the money and that I'm

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Speaker 3: bitter because I didn't get her dad's house, which again,

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Speaker 3: why on earth would I be given my stepmom's dad's house,

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Speaker 3: and that my dad isn't paying for the wedding. But

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Speaker 3: to be honest, it's not really about the money. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to be controlled over what I can and

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Speaker 3: can't do on my wedding day. I'm sick of her

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Speaker 3: judgment and his now that she's gotten his closet to him,

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Speaker 3: and I just think it will be better for me,

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Speaker 3: my siblings, and my mother if they don't go. I

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Speaker 3: also don't want to be lectured over milk, dairy, honey,

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Speaker 3: paul oil, you.

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Speaker 2: Name it on my wedding day.

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Speaker 3: And I do not want to put my guests to

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Speaker 3: that either, am ive ahle nah bro.

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, what I can understand, which could be reasonable,

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Speaker 2: This could be reasonable, right, Hey, we're down to pay

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Speaker 2: for it, but you have to because we're vegan. We

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Speaker 2: just want to you don't. It's still weird, but like

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Speaker 2: we just don't want to pay for not vegan food.

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Speaker 2: Would you mind having all vegan? More reasonable? Sure? Yeah,

842
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Speaker 2: that's more reasonable. Still weird to police someone else's wedding, Like,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to pay for it, pay for it.

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Speaker 2: But like a little weird. But I understand if you're

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Speaker 2: the one paying for it, you can maybe put some

846
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Speaker 2: You got some say, you got some wiggle room, you

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Speaker 2: got some leverage, right, But to believe everyone for their

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Speaker 2: freaking belch or shoes make me sick. You know what

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Speaker 2: I would do. I would invite everyone.

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Speaker 3: I would invite the two of them and then literally

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Speaker 3: completely change the menu and be like, you know, you

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Speaker 3: know those like medieval fairs where they just have like

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Speaker 3: a giant like like a mutton, a mutton, like literally

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Speaker 3: everyone is just a mutton on everyone's plate and they're.

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Speaker 2: Just like and change the dress code from like normal

856
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Speaker 2: like linens and everything to everyone has to wear leather

857
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Speaker 2: gimp suits. Oh with freaking like those balls and them,

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Speaker 2: you know, And then the main dish is a roast

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Speaker 2: pig with an apple inside its mouth, also in a gimpsuit, and.

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Speaker 3: That will show I don't know why, like that's that's

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Speaker 3: an interesting sight, like the roasted pig in the gimp thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that like a graffiti Like I feel

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Speaker 3: like I could see like a graffiti artist like making

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Speaker 3: that has that has to exist.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking this up. Yeah, there is a pig gimp

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Speaker 2: suit and there is miss Piggy in a gimp suit.

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Speaker 2: That one I can see a little bit more. Like

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Speaker 2: this is actually terrifying. Can you send it to me?

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Speaker 2: I want to see it, Are you sure? Yeah? Scar me.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's not as bad as I thought it was

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Speaker 3: going to be.

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Speaker 2: It's weird though.

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Speaker 3: You know, if I robbed a bank, I would wear

875
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Speaker 3: a pig shaped give mask.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like that would just throw everyone off. So like

878
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Speaker 3: you just take the money, just get out of your please.

879
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: Okay. So I don't think op as a whole by

880
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: any means. I understand that, you know, if someone's paying

881
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: for your wedding, they might want to put some restrictions

882
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: on it. But those restrictions are absolutely ridiculous as far

883
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: as not inviting them. If they're not paying for it.

884
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Like I still might invite the dad.

885
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I would reach out to him

886
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: and be like, could you just like come to the

887
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: wedding and just just see you know what I mean,

888
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: Just like.

889
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: You be like my father before you're a vegan, you know,

890
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 2: like like sending.

891
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: It out veganism, motherhood. Brother, your priority is strange. Today,

892
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: affed up by kissing my deaf friend. There was awkward silence,

893
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: and then I realized I didn't remember a key fact. Okop,

894
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895
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm Samuel Daughter and I'm John Fry, and we tell

896
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Speaker 2: the funniest stories on the internet in the world. We

897
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Speaker 2: dive deep into the depths of Reddit, bringing back diamonds

898
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Speaker 2: for you to glare at and look at it.

899
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Speaker 1: Oh, look at it.

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Speaker 2: And then we cut those diamonds into smaller diamonds and

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Speaker 2: then we sell them at a at a one thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars profit in the Diamond district of downtown LA. Today.

903
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: Fed up by kissing my deaf friend. There was awkward silence,

904
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: and then I realized I didn't remember a key fact.

905
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 3: The question is, though, isn't there always.

906
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: There's always an awkward silence with that person. Oh just

907
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: smite me now, Lord, don't deserve this laugh anymore. I

908
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: met a girl through a mutual friend. We've known each

909
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: other for roughly a year, but haven't spent time alone yet,

910
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: always in a group. She's very sweet and very pretty,

911
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: and very deaf. She's not completely deaf, although she could

912
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: still hear a bit, but with the help of hearing aids.

913
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: I guess mild deftness. Not sure though. Yesterday we met

914
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: up with our mutual friends. We were having a barbecue

915
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: and later on we ran out of sack, so the

916
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: other two went to the grocery store. Thus we were

917
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: alone in the yard chatting.

918
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: I know something I could eat.

919
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. John's just going at it. I'm just

920
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: really terrible today. This is gonna be bad. I heard

921
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: like because so like you know how like you know,

922
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: like how Helen Keller like didn't know how to speak,

923
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: and she was kind of like boo. I heard like

924
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 2: deaf sex noises are absolutely wild. She let out, Yeah,

925
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: I just like those noises. Hey, deaf community, let out

926
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: those noise. Let it be yourself, Yeah, but yourself express

927
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: You're all about embracing you and just everyone in the community.

928
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: We're not terrible people.

929
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: I promise, we're actually Nobel Prize in the running.

930
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: We were alone in the yard chatting and I noticed

931
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: that she kept staring at my lips. So I thought

932
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: to myself, wait, does she want to kiss me?

933
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: Since she I know where this is going now.

934
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: Since she didn't stop staring, I thought, this is obvious

935
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: she wants me to make a move, and this time

936
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: I'm not going to miss that hint. I leaned in

937
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: to give her a kiss, and I mean she kind

938
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: of kissed back, but afterwards it was like dead silence,

939
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: like so silent. It's what I would imagine that she

940
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: hears all the time. Oh my gosh, Thank god. The

941
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: other two arrived a few minutes later. The rest of

942
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: the evening was super awkward between us. Later, as she left,

943
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: I told the other two friends that I had kissed

944
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: her because she kept staring at my lips. They started laughing, saying,

945
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: of course she's staring at your lips. She's lip reading,

946
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: you dummy.

947
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: Man.

948
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: I totally forgot that deaf people are also lip reading

949
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: to communicate, and since she's never actually done that before,

950
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: I didn't even take that into consideration. This will definitely

951
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: be one of the moments that'll make me stay up

952
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: at night and cringe. Plus I probably ruined the friendship dude.

953
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: That's that is literally the textbook classic dude move of like, man,

954
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: I've missed signs in.

955
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: The past, but I'm getting this sign right now.

956
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: And gosh durn it, I'm going for it. Man.

957
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeahlip reading dude is a thing. Also, like lipperating is

958
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: kind of cool because you can you can read lips

959
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: through through like windows and uh. And then in cases

960
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: where you can't hear people cross like people watching is

961
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: like takes all. Yeah, hole of theve. We've got a

962
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: pair of binoculars. You can hear what everyone's hearing. We

963
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: also be a little bit creepy, but that's okay. There's

964
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: an update. Okay, guys. I sent her a message asking

965
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: if she wants to come over. He's shooting a shot. Ooh.

966
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: She says she'll be over in an hour. I'm nervous.

967
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm trying to convince my roommate to go on a

968
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: long walk. Update two, She just left five minutes ago.

969
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: I didn't tell her beforehand that I wanted to talk

970
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: to her about the kiss, so it was a bit

971
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: awkward approaching the topic. Can't go into full detail now,

972
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: but I told her that I didn't make to her,

973
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: but I told her I didn't mean to make her

974
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: uncomfortable and that I had misread the signs. We had

975
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: a good laugh and afterwards, again Opie's shooting a shot.

976
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: I asked her if she'd be down to maybe try

977
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: things out if she's interested. The thing is, she's going

978
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: to move to Munich, Germany in a few months end

979
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: of March. I live in France and she told me

980
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: that and while she does like me, she didn't plan

981
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: on making any more. She didn't plan on making any

982
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: romantic interests because she doesn't want to get to attack

983
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: due to her moving anyways. Yeah, she admitted to liking

984
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: me a lot and would like to give it a

985
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: shot to spike the circumstances. They're still gonna do it, Oh,

986
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: only under the condition that I am being serious about it,

987
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: since she doesn't want something that's only casual. Wow. Wow,

988
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: that was that was a cool. Uh one more tidbit.

989
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're going on a date on Tuesday and

990
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: we'll see if it works out between us. Very nice.

991
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 3: I like that, you know, op He did the right thing.

992
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: He he like, you know, sat down and he was honest.

993
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, like I misad the situation, you know,

994
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: like shout out to him. That was that was a

995
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: cool move on.

996
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: His Yeah, super cool move. I think it's like, I

997
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: think it's a uh, I think it's good vibes. I

998
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: think it's good vibes, like it was it today ft up.

999
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: But now it's like, hey, maybe I got a girlfriend today.

1000
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: I succeeded, finally succeeded. Also, I just love when it's

1001
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Speaker 2: a wholesome reddit end the wholesome.

1002
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: The wholesome are Yeah, they need to start one today

1003
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: ft up. But tomorrow I succeeded.

1004
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: I love that. I think that's just the motto for

1005
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: life after tomorrow. I succeeded. And actually, you know, the

1006
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: best way to succeed in life, oh my goodness, and

1007
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: tomorrow and today and for the rest of.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe on YouTube, follow us on the Spotify, on the

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1012
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Speaker 2: The real heroes. You the real heroes. These are the

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Speaker 2: people that are making it all possible. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see you next week or tomorrow, probably tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: You will succeed