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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now. We've got a lot to get to and

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Speaker 2: we're going to do it. We're going to do it

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Speaker 2: as we always do. We're going to be talking about

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Speaker 2: things going on all over the country. Looks like Comer

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Speaker 2: from the House Oversight Committee is going to be subpoenaing

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden to testify. Now that would be in so

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Speaker 2: many ways must see TV. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: going to really end up happening, but Clay is going

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Speaker 2: to break down some of that for you. Also more

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Speaker 2: coming out courtesy of Julie Kelly and some others about

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Speaker 2: just what the judges in the various Trump well one

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Speaker 2: judge in particular involved in the Trump d C prosecution

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Speaker 2: that trial, has been willing to do up to this point,

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Speaker 2: including Clay, We've now found out about a subpoena for

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Speaker 2: Trump's uh Trump's Twitter records. Uh Trump's Twitter records are

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Speaker 2: now being asked for, which I think is interesting looking

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Speaker 2: at the DM Did you ever DM Trump? I never

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Speaker 2: DM them? Did you ever DM?

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Speaker 3: I mean I actually I think this is really interesting

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Speaker 3: and I have been thinking about this. Was Trump actually

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Speaker 3: dming people? You think on Twitter? Like himself.

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Speaker 2: I've only my interaction with that White House was only

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Speaker 2: via phone call. I never there was no dming, So

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But well, the reason why I said people seems strange

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Speaker 3: that he would be only because I don't recall him

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Speaker 3: ever accidentally posting a DM publicly to his Twitter feed,

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Speaker 3: and not to cast dispersions, but older people it seems

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Speaker 3: to me using technology would often make that mistake, and

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Speaker 3: it seems like Trump would easily. Uh, it's it's not

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Speaker 3: a first of all, a difficult to make. Lots of

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Speaker 3: people will do it. And the frequency with which Trump

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Speaker 3: was using Twitter, it seems to me that he would

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Speaker 3: be likely to accidentally DM a private message public and

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Speaker 3: it never happened.

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Speaker 2: That it may just be And this is what I

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Speaker 2: think is people can maybe send dms and he didn't respond,

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Speaker 2: but they would be there on record, and there may

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Speaker 2: be people have tried to contact him. Right, So we'll

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Speaker 2: get into some of that. I wanted to start though,

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Speaker 2: with something that is it's important to me, it's important

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Speaker 2: the whole country, and I think that if people wake

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Speaker 2: up to the reality here. It could have a massive

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Speaker 2: effect on the twenty twenty four election. It could be

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Speaker 2: a difference maker. Remember Trump won in twenty sixteen because

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Speaker 2: of a lot of things. Fine, yes, but immigration was

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Speaker 2: probably the primary policy area where he differentiated himself from

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Speaker 2: the GOP establishment, where he got ahead of all of

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Speaker 2: his competitors, and the primary and the immigration situation right

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Speaker 2: now is as such, America is turning into the largest

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Speaker 2: refugee camp in the world. You're not going to hear

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Speaker 2: it put that way in many places, but that is

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Speaker 2: the truth. A refugee and an ASI lee, a person

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Speaker 2: seeking asylum, are effectively claiming the same situation. It's just

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Speaker 2: that an asylum seeker asks for it in your country.

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Speaker 2: A refugee applies for it externally to your country. So

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Speaker 2: once we understand this, definitionally, you have six million plus

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Speaker 2: would be refugees, alleged refugees they are not, but we'll

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Speaker 2: get into that as well, who have flooded the country

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Speaker 2: in just the last three years. And that's the official number.

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Speaker 2: It's probably considerably higher. Notice how you're also not seeing

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Speaker 2: these there's only eleven million illegals in the country, which

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Speaker 2: they've been saying for I don't know, the last fifteen

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Speaker 2: years or so. It's clearly not eleven million anymore. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't eleven million then, I know that, but it's now

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Speaker 2: got to be twenty million plus. And this is starting

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Speaker 2: to show its effect as well in places like New

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Speaker 2: York City. Clay, here we have the Mayor of New

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Speaker 2: York claiming that this is a state of emergency, and

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Speaker 2: there are others as well. But let's play the Mayor

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Speaker 4: So in this nation is broken, it has been broken

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Speaker 4: for decades. We'll also asking the federal government to.

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Speaker 2: Declare a state of emergency.

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Speaker 4: This will allow federal funds to be allocated quickly to

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Speaker 4: help address the urgent challenges we face.

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Speaker 2: We Clay notice, they're demanding that this become a federal problem.

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Speaker 2: So they want effectively a federal monetary, a money bailout.

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Speaker 2: But New York is a sanctuary city. New York has

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Speaker 2: affirmed time and time again the more illegal migrants, the

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Speaker 2: more illegal immigrants, the better. And there are many other

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Speaker 2: cities like it. So why do they need this money?

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Speaker 3: I want to hit you with these details, Buck, because

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Speaker 3: I read this yesterday in the post and I think

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Speaker 3: I mentioned it on the show. But the headline is

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Speaker 3: this migrant raves about mccaren Park shelter, including hot food,

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Speaker 3: snacks and a pool. There's nothing they stop us from doing.

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Speaker 3: So the talk is that New York City, Buck, to

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Speaker 3: your point, is going to spend five billion dollars of

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Speaker 3: taxpayer money. That is, I believe five billion with a b. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they're now saying twelve. The latest number is twelve. Then no,

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Speaker 3: they just updated it in the last day, all right,

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Speaker 3: So when I I couldn't believe that number. But then

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Speaker 3: I read this article. Okay, this is a thirty nine

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Speaker 3: at the mccaren play Center in Williamsburg. This is the

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Speaker 3: I'm wrong on some of this location. They set up

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Speaker 2: This guy, Miguel Mujica, he.

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Speaker 3: Lives there with his five year old daughter, fifteen year

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Speaker 3: Here's what they get at this location. They get specially

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Speaker 3: prepared Venezuelan cuisine for free every day. They get free

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Speaker 3: WiFi and free international calls at the center, and they

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Speaker 3: get access to the park's massive pool. I brought this

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Speaker 3: is a quote. I brought my wife and children to

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Speaker 3: the pool on Sunday. There were no problems. We all

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Speaker 3: swam between twelve and five. It's a very nice pool.

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Speaker 3: More details. Uh, this guy in Venezuela. What do you

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Speaker 3: Venezuela as a forensic pathology assistant. Oh, I read the

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Speaker 3: art of tew So he's forty bucks right? He says

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Speaker 3: he's making he was making forty dollars a month. He

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Speaker 3: now earns seven hundred or eight hundred dollars a week now.

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Speaker 3: Assuming that his forty dollars a month number is correct,

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Speaker 3: seven or eight hundred dollars a day. There's no curfew

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Speaker 3: at the shelter. They give us. This is a quote.

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Speaker 3: Good hot food, freshly mood made. The food is very good,

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Speaker 3: Lunch is mostly chicken and rice. Yesterday I had a

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Speaker 3: chicken cutlet. You can get water and juice whenever you want,

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Speaker 3: no limit. There's also buck around the clock access to

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Speaker 3: snacks and fruit, although no hot coffee. It's good here,

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Speaker 3: he said. All the bathrooms and showers are in good condition.

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Speaker 3: It's not crowded. There is storage to keep our belongings safe,

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Speaker 3: and lots of cameras everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they have free international calls. Buck.

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Speaker 3: Let's pretend that you are I or anyone out there

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Speaker 3: listening to us right now. You are living in Venezuela,

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Speaker 3: a pathetic socialist run country that's economy has essentially collapsed,

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Speaker 3: and you are making forty dollars a week. You can't

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Speaker 3: afford to feed your family. You are struggling. And then

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Speaker 3: or your brother, and he says, hey, I'm up in

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Speaker 3: New York City. They're letting us live here for free.

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Speaker 3: They are giving us WI FI. I'm making seven or

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Speaker 3: eighty times the number of what I used to make

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Speaker 3: in Venezuela. We're safe. They take care of us. Nobody's

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Speaker 3: stealing our belongings. You should come here too, be honest,

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Speaker 3: how many of you out there right now? If you

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Speaker 3: found out that you could seventy or eighty times your income,

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Speaker 3: your family would be safer, You'd have access to a

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Speaker 3: That's like the best vacation ever. More people are gonna come.

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Speaker 3: The incentive structure is broken. They're definitely gonna keep coming.

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Speaker 3: I would come if I were Venezuelan.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is never going to end. This is what

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Speaker 2: This is never going to stop as long as the

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Speaker 2: law stays that. This is now a matter of abusing

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Speaker 2: the asylum process as a total end run on immigration.

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Speaker 2: And we've already discussed this too. The courts are not

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Speaker 2: set up for this. They are overwhelmed. The immigration courts,

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Speaker 2: So they're going to be backlogged for years. If they

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Speaker 2: tell you three years, think more like ten. Who is

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Speaker 2: going to be deported in ten years? Basically nobody. I

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Speaker 2: mean maybe if you're an MS thirteen hit man, they

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Speaker 2: But if you're somebody else in the country illegally, you've

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Speaker 2: maybe had a child here to the point you've brought

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Speaker 2: and this cycle just continues. Who gets deported? Who is

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Speaker 2: as there are a Clay, you mentioned the money they're

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Speaker 2: these people. That's going on in New York City right now.

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Speaker 2: Massachusetts is saying that, you know, they can't handle twenty

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Speaker 2: thousand that are in their their shelter system, and you

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Speaker 2: just want to say to yourself, hold on a minute.

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Speaker 2: We were told they would not be a financial burden.

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Speaker 2: We were told the taxpayers wouldn't have to pick up

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Speaker 3: What percentage of our audience do you think has ever

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Speaker 2: Ten? Five, it's end at fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a small percentage of people that have ever

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Speaker 3: stayed in a four hundred dollars hotel room in their life.

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Speaker 3: These guys are coming here illegally. In your taxpayer funds,

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Speaker 3: you're taking care of it. And Buck, it's not just

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Speaker 3: what's happening to these illegal immigrants in that Brooklyn park.

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Speaker 3: We also had a story up and out kick about this.

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Speaker 3: In order to house these illegal immigrants, they have ceased

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Speaker 3: allowing people to use the soccer fields in this park.

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Speaker 3: So kids who are in Brooklyn now are showing up

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Speaker 3: to go to practice for their little league soccer teams,

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Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, and they can no

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Speaker 3: going to end up being permanent in this park. They've

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Speaker 3: built it evidently on what used to be public soccer

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Speaker 3: up to be able to come and play there. Now

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Speaker 3: you grew up in New York City, this is a

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Speaker 3: big deal. There probably aren't that many places where you

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Speaker 3: can play soccer in Brooklyn. They're actually setting up the

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Speaker 3: migrants on Randall's Island as well, which is not really

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Speaker 3: the way to Queen's basically, but that's where I used

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Speaker 3: I've got this and I thought we should discuss Buck.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden continues to for the most part, avoid any

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Speaker 3: There now is talk that James Comer is going to

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Speaker 2: And he asked, tell you something. I don't think Pence

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Speaker 3: We've talked about this before, Buck, But if anything, Donald

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Speaker 2: He doesn't talk to anyone.

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Speaker 3: He did an interview with the Weather Channel and he

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Speaker 2: Well. Trump was also very early to leverage all media

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Speaker 2: British royal family in some ways, you know, the sort

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Speaker 2: of celebrity component of it. And that's that's from analysis

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Speaker 2: I've seen of the Crown, the show that I put

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Speaker 2: on when I want Carrie to fall asleep quickly so

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Speaker 2: I can then watch you know, game of throw show

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Speaker 2: show well done, Yeah, thank you, it's it's it is,

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Speaker 2: it is, it is entertaining. But Trump, in some ways

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Speaker 2: was was the He was the celebrity where celebrity itself

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Speaker 2: was often the goal the you know, not an actor,

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Speaker 2: not a but but he recognized it was all part

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Speaker 2: of the brand, just the focus on the name Trump. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it became something that was branded into the center of

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Speaker 2: the brains of the people reading and.

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Speaker 3: Hearing about it. I've got one for you, Buck, Davy Crockett.

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Speaker 3: I'm reading doing all my research on Davy Crockett. We'll

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Speaker 3: be talking about this in more detail as the fall

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Speaker 3: goes on. But Davy Crockett was one of the first

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Speaker 3: American true grown celebrities because he was a man of

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Speaker 3: the West, killed de Bear when he was only three.

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Speaker 2: You know, the whole.

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Speaker 3: Concept of it. And to your point, the idea of

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Speaker 3: creating a celebrity that was American born and bred was

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Speaker 3: a relatively new in creation, right. I mean, the President's

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Speaker 3: always been someone who got a lot of media attention,

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Speaker 3: even back in you know, eighteen oh three when the

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Speaker 3: Louisiana purchase was going on. Everybody knew who Thomas Jefferson was.

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Speaker 3: But this idea of create aiding celebrity outside of office

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Speaker 3: is really a fascinating one. And I also been reading

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Speaker 3: It's a good book about Babe Ruth. I know a

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Speaker 3: lot of you are paying attention to what Shoe heeo

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Speaker 3: Tani is doing. He's basically a modern day Babe Ruth.

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Speaker 3: But Babe Ruth Buck, there's an argument was the first

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Speaker 3: ever athlete to become a global celebrity in icon and

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Speaker 3: the way in which he did that was so interesting.

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Speaker 3: And I think you're right about Trump. He understood the

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Speaker 3: social media era before social media existed, and he played

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Speaker 3: it for all it's worth. And so when we see

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Speaker 3: the way that Joe Biden is being treated, I think

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Speaker 3: Trump can look at it not only as a presidential

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Speaker 3: candidate running against Biden, but I also think he can

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Speaker 3: look at it as someone who understands media and as frankly,

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Speaker 3: someone who was I think it is an astute media

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Speaker 3: critic in general, and point to it and say, the

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Speaker 3: hypocrisy is so transparent if youll look. And I don't

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Speaker 3: even think you have to compare Trump and Biden. Buck,

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Speaker 3: I think you can compare Biden and Clinton. I think

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Speaker 3: you can compare Biden and Nixon. I think you can

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Speaker 3: compare Biden with basically every president that's existed for the

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Speaker 3: last forty years. None of them have been as protected

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Speaker 3: in office as Joe Biden is. It's not even close.

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Speaker 3: You think they're going to continue?

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Speaker 2: How does the anti Biden coup? How does the defenestration

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Speaker 2: of the Biden regime occur?

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Speaker 3: Great question, let's discuss it when we come back on

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Speaker 3: this next segment.

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Speaker 1: Sanity In and Insane in World The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: We have Senator Ron Johnson with us. Senator Johnson Appreciation

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Speaker 2: making the time.

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: We're good, We're good. Let me start with this all

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Speaker 2: the stuff coming out about Biden. You know, you've been

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Speaker 2: somebody who's been speaking loudly on some of these fact

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Speaker 2: finding issues, whether it's about COVID or the Hunter laptop,

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Speaker 2: or the Biden crime family, any number of things for

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Speaker 2: a while. Now, do you think that this will result

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Speaker 2: in any political consequences? Let me and I'll put it

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Speaker 2: to you this way, Senator, do you think that this

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Speaker 2: is possibly going to push Biden in terms of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four to make a decision one way or the other?

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Speaker 2: And how do you see that playing out?

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, it should have resulted in political

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Speaker 5: consequences back in twenty twenty, but it didn't. We had

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Speaker 5: more than enough evidence certainly convinced me that he was

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Speaker 5: unfit for office. The evidence just continues to accumulate. And again,

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Speaker 5: what I try and point out to is, we really

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Speaker 5: have three scandals that we're dealing with.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 5: We have the Biden family, the corrupt drifters that they are.

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Speaker 5: That's a scandal. How we have a now an American

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Speaker 5: president compromise and we have no idea how this is

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Speaker 5: impacting his foreign policy. But then we also have the corruption,

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Speaker 5: the scandal of partisanship within the FBI, within the Department

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Speaker 5: of Justice. I mean, that's pretty apparent as well as

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Speaker 5: then and this may be the most serious. This may

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Speaker 5: be the most dangerous thing to our democracy to steal

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Speaker 5: a turn from the left. The complicit and corrupt media

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Speaker 5: that refuses to cover this, which is why it probably

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Speaker 5: won't result in the type of consequences that we want

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Speaker 5: to see. And I heard early in the show you're

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Speaker 5: talking about the border. I mean, it's just jaw dropping

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Speaker 5: that the media just completely ignored. Or is that catascity

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Speaker 5: that's occurring on a southern border. So again, three separate scandals,

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Speaker 5: all incredibly serious, all pretty well covered up by our

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Speaker 5: corrupt media.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen this news yet, Senator Johnson,

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Speaker 3: but I wanted to ask you about it. Axios has

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Speaker 3: a story up about Joe Manchin and he said, just

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Speaker 3: a few minutes ago, quote, he's serious, thinking seriously about

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Speaker 3: dropping his affiliation with the Democrat Party and becoming an independent.

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Speaker 3: He said, I have to have peace of mind. The

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Speaker 3: brand has become so bad, the D brand and the

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Speaker 3: R brand. You've heard me say a million times, I'm

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Speaker 3: not a Washington Democrat. Now this is, of course convenient

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Speaker 3: because Joe Manchin is up for reelection next year, and

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Speaker 3: it appears many in West Virginia are not inclined to

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Speaker 3: vote for him.

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Speaker 2: You're in the Senate, have you heard this? Discover us

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Speaker 2: in earnest?

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Speaker 3: Do you think Joe Manchin would caucus with the Democrats

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Speaker 3: or the Republicans? Because Kirsten Cinema has already announced that

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Speaker 3: she is an independent, And I asked, because we're basically

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Speaker 3: in a fifty to fifty Senate, I'm curious your reaction

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Speaker 3: to those comments.

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Speaker 2: Do they surprise you? What do you think might happen there?

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Speaker 5: Unless he says he'll become an independent and caucus with Republicans,

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Speaker 5: it's completely meaningless and I would completely ignore it. So

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Speaker 5: the press ass follow up, Okay, come in Penant, who

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Speaker 5: youncaucus with?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the number one question.

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Speaker 5: Democrat. He's a Democrat, and he'd buy and large votes

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Speaker 5: with the Democrats. I mean, you know, again, he votes

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Speaker 5: enough with Republicans on issues that he pretty well has

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Speaker 5: to vote with us on, you know, things like the

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Speaker 5: border is he's the only Democrat that I think voted

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Speaker 5: when I put up an amendment to actually complete the

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Speaker 5: wall where you'd already bought and paid for. Miscrossius more

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Speaker 5: not to build it than to build it. So he

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Speaker 5: votes with us on that and he does vote with us,

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Speaker 5: but unless he caucuses with us, it's completely meaningless.

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Speaker 2: If you can dependent speaking of Senator Ron Johnson and

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Speaker 2: Senator in your home state of Wisconsin, there was, as

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Speaker 2: I understand it, a pretty consequential election as it pertains

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Speaker 2: to the state Supreme Court and how that could affect

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Speaker 2: things in twenty twenty four. Can you give us an

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Speaker 2: update on that and generally, how is Wisconsin looking for

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Speaker 2: Republicans in this upcoming pivotal election.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be really tough statewide. That was a

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Speaker 5: crucial Supreme Court race that we lost. The liberals have

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Speaker 5: now fully taken over and they are radical leftists. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they just basically stripped the Chief Justice, who is a

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Speaker 5: Republican who's a conservative, of basically her powers. They are

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Speaker 5: going to take total control, probably redistrict. There's even talk

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Speaker 5: of him literally throwing the maps out from all of

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Speaker 5: our state Assembly, state Senate races, throwing the maps out,

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Speaker 5: throwing that election out, and potentially demanding a new election

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Speaker 5: before November twenty twenty four to remake the Wisconsin state Legislator.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know how far are these these radical

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Speaker 5: leftists are going to go, but it should concern all

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Speaker 5: of us. It's going to have an impact on potentially

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Speaker 5: districting in congressional races. Who knows. It was an incredibly

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Speaker 5: important race and we lost it.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to Senator Johnson. We're going to do an event.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be up. You're gonna be in studio with me.

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Speaker 3: Buck's going to be on summer vacation, which we'll be

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Speaker 3: able to have to have another trip, but we're going

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Speaker 3: to be doing an event. It's gonna be at the

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Speaker 3: PABs Theater. I'm going to be speaking there. It's going

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Speaker 3: to be a lot of fun. The next day, that's

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Speaker 3: on August twenty second. The next day is the debate.

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Speaker 3: Lots of discussion about whether Donald Trump should debate about

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Speaker 3: whether he should sign the pledge to support any other

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Speaker 3: Republican in the event he were not nominee. If President

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Speaker 3: Trump called you, and maybe he has, because he's asking

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Speaker 3: a lot of people their advice on whether it makes

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Speaker 3: sense to debate in Milwaukee on August twenty third with

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Speaker 3: the other Republican presidential candidates.

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Speaker 2: What would you tell.

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Speaker 5: Him, Well, first I tell him to sign the pledge. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he signed it back in twenty sixteen ranks previous to

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Speaker 5: present it to him and he signed it, and now

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Speaker 5: is important. If he doesn't sign that, I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: I think it would be a mistake. Obviously. People in

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Speaker 5: Wisconsin love to see him on the stage. They'd like

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Speaker 5: to hear his views. He needs to explain the American

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Speaker 5: public about you know, what he did during COVID. There's

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Speaker 5: a lot of things that he can talk about, and

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Speaker 5: I'd like to see him on the stage, but you

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Speaker 5: know that would be up to him.

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Speaker 2: Senator Johnson with us now from Wisconsin. Senator are you

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Speaker 2: are you confident that the Biden regime or that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden is going to stand for reelection or are you

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Speaker 2: on the side of things where you think that the

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Speaker 2: Democrats are going to try to pull something at the

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Speaker 2: last minute.

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Speaker 5: Here, Yeah, if I had a bet, I probably bet

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Speaker 5: they'll do that, and they replaced him with a candidate

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Speaker 5: that cannot be properly vetted. You know, this would be

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Speaker 5: the candidate the media will hail is going to be

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Speaker 5: the savior of the United States and the Democrat Party

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Speaker 5: and it won't be a fair fight. So if I

654
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Speaker 5: had to bet, that's why I bet. I mean, I can't.

655
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Speaker 5: And again, it's it's sad to see anybody deteriorate with age, right.

656
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Speaker 5: I just have a hard time believing America would elect

657
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 5: Joe Biden as infirmed as he appears to be and

658
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Speaker 5: as a corrupt as I know he is.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of corrupt, I'm sure you have seen your colleague

660
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Speaker 3: Grand Paul has a referred doctor Fauci to the Department

661
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Speaker 3: of Justice and now also the DC Attorney's Office for

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00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: prosecution for perjury. Is there any doubt in your mind

663
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: that doctor Fauci committed perjury and should he be charged with,

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Speaker 3: at a minimum, the crime of lying to Congress.

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Speaker 5: Probably, and I would consider doctor Fauci a very bad person.

666
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 5: You know, the sabotage of early treatment, which costs, according

667
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: to doctors I talked to you, probably one hundreds of

668
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: thousands of Americans are lives because he was just, you know,

669
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: hail bent on making sure the very American guy a

670
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: vaccine in the arm. And of course the vaccines haven't worked,

671
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: and they've injured untold numbers of individuals that he completely

672
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 5: ignores as well, together with his corrupt federal agencies. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm not a real fan of Anthony Fauci, I'm not

674
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Speaker 5: a real fan of the people in charge of the CDC,

675
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Speaker 5: the NIH the FDA. We've got a real problem on

676
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 5: our hands. We've got a corrupt dontal health agency. We've

677
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 5: got obviously corrupt big Pharma. Uh, there's so much, there's

678
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 5: so much corruption. You can just tell the disgust in

679
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Speaker 5: my voice hearing me. America is going down a very

680
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Speaker 5: dangerous path right now, and Anthony Fauci is one of

681
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Speaker 5: the one of the henchmen.

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Speaker 2: Senator Johnson, if I could circle us back to immigration,

683
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Speaker 2: which you mentioned we were talking about that really kicked

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Speaker 2: off the show on the just the reality that we

685
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: have a de facto open border and that we have

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Speaker 2: cities that are now becoming giant refugee camps or have

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Speaker 2: recue g camps that are going to rival any others

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Speaker 2: in certainly the Western hemisphere. Given that reality, do you

689
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Speaker 2: think that if we were to have a Republican House, Senate,

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00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: and presidency in twenty twenty four, are Republican members in

691
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Speaker 2: the Senate United and reliable on doing something legislatively to

692
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Speaker 2: fix the border crisis as it stands.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Unfortunately, without sixty votes, it's going to be very difficult,

694
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 5: but we know that a president that's dedicated to clos

695
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 5: and the border can do it. That's what Donald Trump did.

696
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 5: And what's sort of depressing about this is we pretty well

697
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: had stopped the flow of uncompanyed children and family units

698
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 5: exploiting our asylum laws as a result, less human trafficking,

699
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 5: less sex trafficking. We had it close to under control.

700
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 5: Still had the single adults coming in, but probably about

701
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 5: half the level. And then Joe Biden dedicated opening up

702
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 5: the border did so. Now it's about five million People's

703
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: my best guest. Five million people either encountered process and

704
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 5: dispersed or come in as a known or unknown got away.

705
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Speaker 5: Half the states have populations less than five million people.

706
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Speaker 5: That's the extent of the problem. And what New York

707
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 5: and these other cities are screaming about, it's just a

708
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 5: fraction of the problem. But again, you got a media

709
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 5: that's covering up, and they are the ones that are

710
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 5: corrupt and complicit. If we had that honest news media

711
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 5: reporting on this, America won't stand for it. I mean,

712
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 5: the cost of this is skyrock, man. I hear the

713
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 5: numbers in New York that you're talking about. Now, look

714
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 5: at what that's gonna do nationally. Take a look at

715
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Speaker 5: how that's going to change the character of this country.

716
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 5: I'm off for legal immigration, but until we fix this problem,

717
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: until we secure the border and stop the illegal immigration,

718
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Speaker 5: there's just not gonna be a way to actually fix

719
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Speaker 5: the problem.

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Speaker 3: Senator Johnson, who do you think is actually making decisions

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Speaker 3: in the White House now?

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Speaker 5: A bunch of radical leftists? Does it really make any

723
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 5: difference who exactly is pulling the levers there? You know it? Listen,

724
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Speaker 5: there's an elite group of individuals globally that are having

725
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 5: undue influence over politics globally. I honestly believe that. I

726
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 5: want to said that three or four years ago, before

727
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 5: the pandemic, But now you see what's happened during the pandemic.

728
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 5: The trusted news network, the censorship, that the spreading and

729
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 5: misinformation by accusing people like you and you know, Kraay

730
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 5: and Buck and Ron Johnson is spreading this information. We

731
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 5: were telling American people the truth, guys. And I wish

732
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 5: I could say I'm a huge optimist. Right now, I'm

733
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 5: in a pretty dark mood because of what I'm seeing.

734
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Speaker 5: This nation is on a very dangerous path and more

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Speaker 5: Americans have to pull their heads out, open up their eyes,

736
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Speaker 5: and understand that we've got to fix this. We cannot.

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Speaker 5: Republicans Conservatives cannot lose the twenty twenty four election. As

738
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Speaker 5: imperfect as the Republican Party is, the Democrats are vastly,

739
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Speaker 5: vastly worse.

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Speaker 3: You just said something that think is really important because

741
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Speaker 3: it ties in with the challenge of winning Wisconsin. You

742
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 3: know that specifically because you won I think by twenty

743
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Speaker 3: six thousand votes for six more years, thankfully, If the

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Speaker 3: ultimate nominee of their Republican Party for president came to

745
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Speaker 3: you and said, I want you to be vice president,

746
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Speaker 3: would you consider it? And do you think you could

747
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Speaker 3: deliver Wisconsin based on your knowledge of that state, because

748
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Speaker 3: I bet you would agree whichever way Wisconsin goes is

749
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Speaker 3: probably who's going to win the presidency.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, if you had a president's candidate

751
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 5: come up and ask you to be vice president, I

752
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: don't know who would turn somebody down. I mean, it's

753
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 5: just your meansked to serve you. I stepped up played

754
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 5: for a third term because this country is in big trouble.

755
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: To win Wisconsin. The formula is ground game. It's grassroots.

756
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 5: It's get the paid field staff out there and doing

757
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 5: what the Democrats do. They only have to do it

758
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 5: in Madison and Milwaukee. We need to mind votes in

759
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 5: every small town and municipality in Wisconsin. It's a much

760
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 5: more difficult task, but that's where we need to spend

761
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 5: the money. I keep telling you know, people that are

762
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 5: the NSC and these national campaigns, quit spending so much

763
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 5: money on stupid ads. Spend money on the ground game.

764
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Speaker 5: That's what we have to do.

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Speaker 2: Senator Johnson. Before we let you go and thank you

766
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Speaker 2: for all this important insighted information, especially in your home

767
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: state of Wisconsin, we have a situation here. We wanted

768
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: you to weigh in on what is the best buddy

769
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Speaker 2: cop movie of all time.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not real fan of Hollywood. I'm not.

771
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: I kind of like Men in Black because I just

772
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 5: like science fiction movies.

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00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: But in john that's a good answer.

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00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 5: I'm not the ingod person to evaluate Hollywood.

775
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: That's a good answer. Appreciate you, sir, Thank you, sir.

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00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 5: Okay, take care, keep up good work.

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Speaker 3: Guess what online identity theft one of those crimes that

778
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: happens without at arms going off or cops showing up

779
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Speaker 3: looking for the bad guys. Instead, you've got some cyber

780
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Speaker 3: hacker halfway around the world breaking into company database is

781
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Speaker 3: stealing data selling it on the dark web to the

782
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Speaker 3: highest bidder. That's likely what happened to a company you've

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Speaker 3: likely not heard of before, one called Maximus Federal Services,

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Speaker 3: their Medicare contractor a big one, large enough that their

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Speaker 3: computers have the information on more than eleven million Americans.

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Speaker 3: That information potentially exposed several months ago in May. The

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Speaker 3: compromised information reads like a checklist for cyber hackers, social

788
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Speaker 3: security numbers, names, phone numbers, emails, addresses, healthcare claims, and more.

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Speaker 3: It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are

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Speaker 3: affecting our lives. Remember, no one can prevent all identity

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Speaker 1: Sexton Clay Travels Together. They're breathing sanity into an insane world.

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Speaker 2: We got some breaking news here that is of high

799
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Speaker 2: interest and it goes to a lot of the analysis

800
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Speaker 2: we've had on the show. Let me tell you this

801
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: is a great time to tell you that tomorrow we

802
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: are stacked when it comes to legal and constitutional analysis.

803
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: All these major stories, whether it's the Trump indictmonds, the

804
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: Biden realities, the Hunter Biden plea bargain, which is still

805
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: hanging out there somewhere. I mean, it still could happen.

806
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: I think it still will happen. They're just going to

807
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: try to find a way to ease it through on

808
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Speaker 2: the second on the second attempt. But we have Andy

809
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: McCarthy gotta be joining us tomorrow, Senator Ted Cruz, and

810
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: Julie Kelly. So I don't know, you know, this is

811
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: like the it's like the Avengers for law nerds or something.

812
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of people to join in tomorrow

813
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: on this one. So we're excited about that. And this

814
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: is the latest just from these Remember there's going to

815
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: be court filings in the various cases. We're probably going

816
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: to have the Atlanta indictment next week, the grand jury's meeting.

817
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: They believe the grand jury is likely to hand down

818
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: an indictment against Trump there so that's likely to be

819
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: next week. And in the meantime, the prosecution of the

820
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: DC case. I guess we call it interesting. It's really

821
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Speaker 2: the election twenty twenty case, but everyone's calling it the

822
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: jan sixth case. I guess it kind of touches on both.

823
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: They are trying to have the case, the trial rather

824
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: begin on January second of twenty twenty four. They think

825
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: it'll take a little over a month or so to

826
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Speaker 2: bring this case in the court filing, which is out

827
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Speaker 2: government's response to Court's August third, twenty twenty three minute order.

828
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Speaker 2: It's out now. The government proposes the trial begin then

829
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: will take no more than four to six weeks. A

830
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: January second trial date, I'm reading from this court order

831
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: would vindicate the public's strong interest in a speedy trial,

832
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, for a president who is charged

833
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 2: with conspiring to overturn the legitimate results of the twenty

834
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Speaker 2: twenty presidential election, obstruct the certification of the election results,

835
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Speaker 2: and discount citizens legitimate votes. So this is in the

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Speaker 2: court record. This is the prosecution asking for this, the

837
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Speaker 2: Special Council asking for this. Okay, Clay a couple of

838
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: big things. Not only are they trying to make this

839
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Speaker 2: case happen in the election year. So the whole thing

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Speaker 2: I've been saying all along everybody, They're not going to

841
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: dey they're going to delay it. They're not going to

842
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: allow it to be delayed. They're having it. And they're

843
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: jumping ahead of the scheduled case for Florida. Right, isn't

844
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: Florida later than this, So they are.

845
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: Are jumping ahead of New York too, and New York

846
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: is March.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they are moving this one to the front

848
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: of the line. They're moving it to the like most

849
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: damaging politically point possible in the primary schedule. And Clay,

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00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: you know this is what like you we've been talking

851
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: about this right normal cases that the fair noose Elizabeth

852
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: Holmes trial took years and years and years to prosecute

853
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: her for being a massive, massive fraud. This judge in

854
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: Chutkin right in DC, she's gonna ram all this stuff through.

855
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: They're not. She's not gonna delay this. She's not gonna

856
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: give Trump fair process. You see it differently.

857
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Speaker 3: I cannot imagine that they can get the trial turned

858
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Speaker 3: this quickly. This will be a great discussion tomorrow with

859
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Speaker 3: Julie Kelly, because she has covered the Jan six cases

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Speaker 3: better than almost anybody out there, probably the best in

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Speaker 3: the entire country. And I I know we talked to

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Speaker 3: her before. The average run up for Jan six cases

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Speaker 3: has been eighteen to twenty four months.

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Speaker 2: I think she said so.

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Speaker 3: In other words, from the time of an indictment charges

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Speaker 3: being filed, typically it's taking a year and a half

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Speaker 3: to two years for those trials to get done. This

868
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Speaker 3: would be four or five months unheard of. Now politically,

869
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way that Trump wants this

870
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: one going to trial before the other two, because I

871
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: think by far, this is the greatest legal peril of

872
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 3: conviction that he faces now. The case in South Florida,

873
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: as we have told you, I think is an easier case,

874
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Speaker 3: and I think this one will get tossed by the

875
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Speaker 3: Supreme Court. And we'll talk about this tomorrow more. But

876
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Speaker 3: I geeked out legally yesterday explaining to you why I

877
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: don't think these are crimes at all that Jack Smith

878
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: has charged Trump with, and I stand by that. I

879
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: think that the law is on his side, but it

880
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: can take a while for that to get to the

881
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 3: Supreme Court. And to your point, we know right now

882
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 3: he's scheduled to stand trial in New York City in March,

883
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: that he's scheduled to stand trial in Florida in May.

884
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Speaker 3: So they are stacking it such that in their ideal world,

885
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Speaker 3: he would be on trial for the entirety of twenty.

886
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Speaker 2: Four January March May. Now add to those are all

887
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Speaker 2: trial dates that have been set. This is no longer

888
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Speaker 2: just regulation set March and May. I'm sorry, I'm sorry March,

889
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: but I think they're gonna get it, Clay. I think

890
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: I think the judge is gonna get you. Don't think

891
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Speaker 2: so you can judge, then Ruskin's gonna deny the special

892
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Speaker 2: counsel their request.

893
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Speaker 3: Here, well, I just think there's gonna be so many

894
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Speaker 3: issues at play that it's going to be hard to

895
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Speaker 3: expedite this and get it done.

896
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Speaker 2: Now.

897
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Speaker 3: This is the rig job is in if they get

898
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Speaker 3: this trial in in January. And the reason why I

899
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: would say this is so significant buck for everybody out

900
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 3: there listening.

901
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: They're saying four to six weeks.

902
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Speaker 3: So if you took the government at its word, I

903
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: think you need to add a couple of weeks probably,

904
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: so let's say two months, this trial would legitimately be

905
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: going on while everybody is voting in the Republican primary

906
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: January fifteenth. We know the Iowa caucus, early February, we

907
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 3: know the New Hampshire March fifth or so. Buck, this

908
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 3: thing's going to be decided Clay, I mean Trump, not Clay.

909
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: Clay's not going to prison Trump, hopefully not.

910
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: Hopefully.

911
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: You know, I keep doing this show long enough, somebody's

912
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: going to definitely be knocking on my door.

913
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: I feel comfortable about that. You're in a position where

914
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: you could legitimately see as a possibility. I'm not making

915
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: a prediction. I'm just saying it is possible that Trump

916
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: on or within days of like Super Tuesday, could be

917
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: found guilty of a felony in a federal court that

918
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: could have That is just reality right now as we

919
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: see it, which is completely crazy, but this is where

920
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: we are. What I was going to say, though, is

921
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: let's say they get to January. To be fair, to

922
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: be clear, as you said, it's not yet agreed to.

923
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: I think they will get it. It's the most anti

924
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: Trump judge pretty much you could possibly get. I don't

925
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: think she's going to say, well, you know Trump's political aspirations. Remember,

926
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to you know, they play it both ways.

927
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: They're not supposed to take into account what Trump's political

928
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: aspirations are in this. In their minds, it's purely criminal process, right,

929
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: criminal justice system working without you know, fear or favor,

930
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 2: which we know is nonsense, but that's what their their

931
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: theory or their operating theory will be. Here. You could

932
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: have January March May, the Atlanta prosecution. If it comes down,

933
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: the indictment comes down next week, they're going to try

934
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: to wedge that in there somewhere either I would assume

935
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: now after it. But to your point, you could have

936
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Speaker 2: Trump on trial for really the entire election year, because

937
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean the federal trial in what is it, may

938
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: call it six day, eight weeks, and then after that

939
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 2: you're gonna have maybe the Atlanta trial, which maybe that's

940
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: only a few weeks, but they're going to have it

941
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: on trial the entire the entire year. And that's even

942
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: let's say he beats everything.

943
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 3: It's crazy, and I would just point out it needs

944
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: to be bear repeating over and over again, and we're

945
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 3: going to do it. They are claiming that they care

946
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: about preserving democracy, and in the name of democracy, the

947
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 3: United States government, Joe Biden's Department of Justice is requesting

948
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump stand federal trial. While all of you

949
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 3: in Iowa are caucusing, while all of you in New

950
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 3: Hampshire are lining up to vote, while everyone in Nevada,

951
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 3: while everyone in South Carolina, all of you that may

952
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: be out exercising your constitutional right to pick a representative

953
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 3: to run for president, they are going to be trying

954
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: to put him in prison by their own request, while

955
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: all of that voting is going on.

956
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised they made the request. Buck. If they

957
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: are able to jump.

958
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: To the front of the line, this is not the

959
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 3: most perilous because again, I think this is gonna get

960
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 3: tossed at the Supreme Court eventually. But they want to

961
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: brand Donald Trump a felon, and they want to do

962
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: it before he even gets the opportunity to win the

963
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: Republican nomination.

964
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Speaker 2: All right, let's call it right now, Clay. Does Judge

965
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: Chutkin agree to the Special Counsel's timetable?

966
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: I think, based on where it's being requested, I think

967
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: she may back it up to February and claim that

968
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: she's being like, you know, being respectful. I do think,

969
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 3: I do think the true and this is where having

970
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: the right lawyers matter so much.

971
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: I think I think she gives them exactly what they

972
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: want without without even a second thought. But we'll see

973
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: if you.

974
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Speaker 3: Had true legal all stars representing you. I think I

975
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 3: think that Trump legal team could throw in front of

976
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: this a series of procedural hurdles, motioning arguments, appeals that

977
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: would make it impossible to have a trial by that date.

978
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: I think that they would have the legal mechanism to

979
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: do so. But I don't know that he has that

980
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 3: legal acumen representing him. To be fair, I don't think

981
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: he has the dream If I were Trump, remember OJ

982
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: had the dream team of lawyers. If I were Trump,

983
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 3: I would want the equivalent of the modern day OJ

984
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: legal team, and I don't think he has that. Also,

985
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: if they were to put Clay and I do agree

986
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: on this, if they put cameras in the courtroom, Trump's

987
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: going to take his own defense.

988
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: Defense. Yes, sorry, that's what I mean, to take the

989
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: stand in his own defense. He's He's going to actually

990
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: take the stand. Come back to close this out here

991
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