WEBVTT - All the Fallout From AEW Grand Slam 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:08.479 of the wrestling observer daily podcast on the eight side network. Ready, 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:14.760 you're ready, let's get it all how's it going everybody? 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:18.279 Brian Alvarez here on wrestling observer live. We are here 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.440 every day, Monday through Friday. New Pacific, three, eastern Sunday, 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.639 three Pacific, six eastern Thursday here on this program and 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.880 you know what that means. Lots to talk about here today, 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:35.960 including all of the fallout from a e W Grand Slam. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.400 Did you think it was a Grand Slam? Merely a 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.680 home run? Well, I thought it was a pretty damn 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.000 great show and we have new champions across the board. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:49.640 The A W champion is John Moxley, the a w 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:54.480 tag team champions are the acclaimed and the new ring 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:59.360 of honor world champion is in fact Chris Jericho. Three 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.000 title Change Ages on the show, night one of this 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:07.520 two nights series. They taped rampage on after the show 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:12.399 last night and man, Oh man, guy's heard me complaining 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.840 about when I went to that Wrestlemania New York and 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.840 it got out late and it was so horrible that 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.360 I never wanted to go wrestle Menia again and everyone 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:25.040 talked about how I was. Oh Man, wow, a lot 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.240 of you that went to the show last night. Now 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.759 you're gonna hear my rants totally differently. So anyway, we'll 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.240 talk about that show here today, all of the highs 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.039 and not a lot of loads. But there are a 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.520 couple of things to talk about and we've also got 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:42.160 the raw and n x t ratings. Poor Kashida has 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.440 uh hand, foot and mouth disease. We'll tell you about that. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:52.000 We've got updates on Ruby Soho, who needs surgery on 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.520 a broken nose. I don't know if Brit Baker is 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:56.600 gonna need surgery on a broken nose, but she might 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.320 be next. We have also got some notes on uh 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:05.160 on UH. Well, really everything else relates to Grand Slam. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:06.480 So a lot to get into here today. If you 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.600 want to Texas, four to five seven eight, zero seven, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.519 five six six. That is four to five seven, eight, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.080 zero seven, five six six. BRIAN AT WRESTLING OBSERVER DOT COM, 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.720 at Bran elberrow is on twitter. SCEMBER MABE joins us 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:47.600 up for the break with more observer live. Back in 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.880 the show. Brian Elberrez here wrestling observer live yes, Mike, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:57.040 Supper Viv is here today, barely, Bro I didn't pop 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.400 your tire. Don't look at me, I'm way out here her. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:07.519 Do you know what, Mike? You know what? What I 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.280 gotta mention this because I'm talking about some of the 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.600 news we're gonna talk about today. And and Ruby Soho 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:20.240 needs surgery on a broken nose. And Uh last night 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:27.800 I'm watching watching that women's foreway and Athena falls right 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.760 on Britt Baker's face and I presume her nose is broken, 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.480 but one way the other it was destroyed. She's just 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:42.400 bleeding everywhere and it's like, my God, can she wrestle 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.760 a match and not get killed? and Uh so I 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.000 I tweeted like can we maybe stop killing Britt Baker? 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:55.440 And I realized that all wrestlers get this, okay, but 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.000 I tweeted it and immediately I'm just getting boom boom, boom, boom, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.320 boom boom responsor spoons. So I just I broke my 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.120 own rule. I'm like, my God, what's going on? So 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.160 I look at the responses to my tweet and my 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.600 tweet was merely could we please stop killing Britt Baker? 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.560 cale what a bunch of horrible human beings on my timeline, 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:24.600 like absolutely horrible people. It was everything from, you know, uh, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.600 blaming her. Yeah, that was that was at number one. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.560 It's like everyone's blaming Britt. It's like, Dude, okay, listen, 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.400 I don't remember every last single injury that she suffered, okay, 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.400 but I do remember that when she broke her leg. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.520 Remember she destroyed her leg? Now's because she was laying 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.560 in the corner and nil rose came flying in with 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:49.720 a cannonball and landed with all her weight on Britt's leg. Okay, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.840 what happened last night? She's she's literally she's been lifted 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.839 up a penis, got like two people on her shoulders 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.520 and uh, Richard is like a hold on for your life. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:05.080 Her life literally is in Athena's hands and Athena drops 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.080 her and lands right on her face. How is this 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:15.640 Britt Baker's faults? And then you know, it's like, Oh, well, simple, 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.560 got a lot of those. Yeah, I'm a horrible person. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.479 I am a horrible person for asking the wrestlers to 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:28.720 stop hurting the other wrestlers. It's like, dude, I don't 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.000 even know. Maybe you should have been funnier, like I 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.919 didn't just say that with two noses, a risk and 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.400 a knee. The first a w license board game should 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.919 be Britt Baker operation. Maybe that would have, you know, 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.680 gotten a better response. Actually, the timeline, it would not 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.279 have gotten you better responses and any other ones. The 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:50.560 other ones were like, well, she deserves it for, you know, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:58.120 rooting punch. It's like, hold on a minute, so you tweeter. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.479 So if you get in a car accident, which is 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.320 not your fault, by the way, you're like pulling out 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.479 and someone's side swipes you or whatever, and you and 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.560 you go on your face. When you go, man, I 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.480 got hit by somebody today. You know, they hit and 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.279 ran my car or whatever. Are Your friends on Facebook 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.719 gonna go? Well, man, you shouldn't have gotten that promotion 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.080 at work. Shouldn't have been driving. It's not even that, Mike, 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:25.320 it's you shouldn't have gotten the promotion at work. You 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.760 deserve to get hit by somebody else in their car. 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:34.840 That's what you get for that wrong. No, mushroom, man. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.640 It's not stopped taking the troll Bait. Okay, it's about 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.840 what is up with you idiots on twitter? Why does 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:43.600 everyone have to be such an idiot all the time. 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:49.640 It's not just twitter or it's everywhere. Sakes, goodness gracious, 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.160 she deserves it because she's getting a push, which, by 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.680 the way, she's not. She's getting the opposite of a push, 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.960 like she's not getting buried. But she put over Tony's 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.200 arm cleaning the match. I believe she uh, she. She 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.080 clearly didn't win the title of the pay per view. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.560 I mean she's out there doing jobs and putting people over, 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.240 but damn it, she deserves she deserves to have someone 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.480 fall on her face and destroy her nose. You people 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:22.360 are horrible people and I am a simple I'll just 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.200 stop caring that you maybe you said you're gonna stop 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:27.880 being a Karen. That might be a good thing. To 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:32.120 Stop Caring. Oh caring. I'm sorry, but anyway, a lot 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.200 of stuff happened on that show last night. We'll do 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.520 the full review here later, but John Moxley is your 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:42.000 new champion, the acclaimed are in fact your new tag 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.440 team champions and Chris Jericho is your new ring of 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.280 honor champion. And I was listen. I knew they didn't 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.600 do as many people as they did last year, but 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.680 when Dave told me there was about thirteen thousand. I 0:07:55.720 --> 0:08:01.040 need to get the actual number because dude, it sounded 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.400 like easily twenty people in that building for that opening 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.760 match with Jericho and Moxley and when the acclaimed won 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:14.360 the titles. I mean this crowd was unbelievable and you know, 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.840 if you're just watching, watch, I watched the first match 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.800 of that show last night and I thought there's two things. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.280 There's two things here. Number One, anybody who turns this 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.559 show on, whether you're a regular viewer or sometimes viewer, 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.880 how are you not watching the show with this crowd 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.679 in these matches? And then we had the other thing 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:38.000 where raw on Monday got killed and of course raw 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.920 got killed last week as well and dynamite did a 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.480 good number, and so everyone's sort of had this potential 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:48.319 theory that well, maybe you know, during because this happened 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.040 last football season two, raw took a hit and dynamite 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.839 had did did well during football, and so some people 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:59.880 have this theory that well, maybe the people don't watch raw, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.920 they watched football and so since they haven't watched three 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.480 hours of wrestling already, they get their wrestling fills somewhere 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.480 else with that c n x t or dynamite. So 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.760 I don't know what dynamite is gonna do. We're gonna 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:15.360 know in UH forty two minutes, but I'll bet this 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.679 number is big. It's not gonna be raw, but if 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:22.440 this did one point two million, one point to five million, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.320 I would not be the least bit surprised. But we'll see. No, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.760 not at all. At one point three million, I think 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.600 it could. It could. Do you know any more than 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.560 that should be celebrated. And Yeah, though, so they ended 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.320 up finishing a little short of what they did last year. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.480 I guess seven thousand tickets short if there's twenty thousand 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.120 people that fit in there. But as you mentioned how 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.199 it was, Mike. I mean just to add to that, 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.640 look at when Soriah came out and the reaction that 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.520 she got and how they were able to pan that 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.360 crowd and how they made it look aesthetically, you know, 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.880 camera angles and things like that. You would have never 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.920 have known that place was not sold out and as 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.040 loud as they were. I mean they did a hell 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.640 of a job last night and they did a great 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.520 job balancing New York and the rest of the country. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.960 There's nothing that New York loves more than New York, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.440 whether they're bashing it or or raising up one of 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.439 their own, and there's a lot of things that people 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.560 hate about anything New York centric, but you had all 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.200 of that New York in there and you're gonna have 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.480 it on rampage. But to me the show played perfectly 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.719 to everyone and it was a really good show. There 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.800 are things that we're probably going to talk about that 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.280 we're not good some of the finishes and some of 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.560 the things like that that annoyed us, but as far 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.360 as a production goes, as far as the presentation and 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.839 as far as the energy goes, and you can't say 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.080 anything about it. They had it. I gotta talk about 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:46.840 the finishes because, in fact, I'm gonna wait till after 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:51.000 the break. Yeah, probably for the best. You Britt Baker 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.520 trolls are really gonna get it now. Oh well, yeah, 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.680 I'M gonna get my revenge in a different way. Oh 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.360 your revenge, Brian, what a sip you DORK's. You guys 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.200 are such dorks. Do you realize what Dorks you are online? 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:09.240 Your Geeks? Nah, come on, get a life, nerd, nerd. Anyway, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.200 I got some other news here. Ruby Sojo's note has 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.360 to undergo surgery on her nose. So Ho said she 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.840 broke her nose in two places and also has, quotes, quote, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.760 a mess of a Septum. That would usually happen if 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.760 your nose is broken into places. Oh my God, don't 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:30.640 sound not at all deviated from deviation, I guess, due 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.480 to the injury that I received. It all out a 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:37.320 broken nose in two places and a mess of a Septum. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.320 Bro If I ever have a mess of a Septum, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.120 I'm definitely going to the doctor. That don't sound good 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:47.120 at all. I have to have surgery already laying no good, 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:51.360 and then poor Kashia has listen. I'm sure it's horrible, 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.680 but what's more horrible is they don't have a better 0:11:53.760 --> 0:12:00.320 name than hand, foot and mouth disease. They made it worse. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.360 He used to just be foot in mouth disease. Now 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.880 it's hand foot and mouth disease. We can't come up 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.800 with a better name than hand, foot and mouth disease. 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.840 What is a disease now? Chris, poor guy, and I 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.600 just I guess this has been the thing that's been 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.800 lingering with him for so long because he had that 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:21.320 non covid nineteen fever and they that continued on and 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.120 then he had a skin condition and now he's been 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.560 diagnosed with this. So I assume that's what it's been 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.360 the whole time. But if it's not, to hang out 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.319 better places, and now he doesn't have a Ligma. Back 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:42.120 in a moment, observer alive. So I gotta talk about 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:47.080 this and I can't wait. Yes, so I ranted a 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:53.400 long time about raw Monday because it was distraction, distraction, distraction, Distraction, distraction. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.760 Five matches. Four had a distraction fish, and so you 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:06.800 knew the butt folks were loading them guns and uh, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.680 of course I watched the show in a delay and 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.480 sure enough, like ourn of the show and I started 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.880 getting boom boom, one after the other. You better rant 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.280 about these bad finishes for a w you ranted about raw, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.120 you better rant about the it's like, all right, well, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.840 if it's bad, I'll rant about it. So I watched 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:28.199 the show and I mean there's no help in these people. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:34.040 You guys, you yeah butters, cannot tell the difference between 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:39.520 what happened on raw and what happened on dynamite. Listen, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:48.240 on RAW, in five matches, we had four matches with 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:53.640 the distraction finish and everyone was exactly the same. A 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:58.000 guy is about to win, somebody distracts him and he's 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:05.640 pinned over and over and over and over again. Okay, well, 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.280 let's look at what happened on dynamite in the Chris 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:15.080 Jericho match. Did somebody come out and distract Claudio and 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.760 then he immediately lost? No, Jericho tried to use the 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:23.960 bat because he's a heel. The Ref caught him, got 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.600 the bat out of the ring and then Jericho, in 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.720 a ring of honor match with the Code of honor, 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.840 gave Claudio a low blow and then hit the back 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:38.600 elbow and pinned him. He cheated to win the ring 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.440 of Honor Championship. There's a story here. If you don't 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.400 like it, fine, but there's a story here. Okay, in 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:51.280 the acclaimed match, what happened? Well, the acclaimed rolled out 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:56.520 of the ring and I think it was swerve got 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.520 in the face of Billy Gunn and he dared Billy 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.400 Gunn to hit him and they went back and forth 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.640 and then, after a Reugh distraction, Billy Gunn got his 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.920 revenge by hitting the fame asser on him through the 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.400 guy in the ring and then they they did their deal. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:20.240 The heel asked for it in that match. Then the 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:25.080 other one was the orange cassidy match. The Orange Cassidy match, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:29.400 they're brawling outside and this bastard gets his hand on 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.920 the Ringbell and behind the referees back, he bunks him 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.400 in the head with the ringbell. He throws him in 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.560 the ring and he pins him because he's a dascardly heel. Now, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.040 if you want to complain that three of those matches 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.040 had something screwy leading to the finish, you can, but 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:51.040 to compare those which all three of them were totally 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:55.240 different to what they did on raw, where I watched 0:15:55.280 --> 0:16:00.240 a seventeen minute match and then riddles, music hits, Seth 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:06.240 is distracted by music, speared and pinned. If you're gonna 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.440 tell me that these are the same thing, I don't 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:14.720 want to hear from you. Just go away, granted. Oh well, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.880 a riddle and UH seth or feuding. Yeah, I know 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.800 that they already did a distraction finish, probably multiple times 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.080 to set up this feud. I don't need it in 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.400 every single solitary match that they do. I don't need 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.680 someone distracted by music. If you have a story that 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.400 involves some rigmarole leading to the finish. Fine, how do 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.080 you book pro wrestling otherwise? If you can't do anything? 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.200 You just want clean finishes up and down the show. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.640 You can do it, you absolutely can do it. But 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.479 you can also tell stories in pro wrestling, and sometimes 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.520 it involves this guy hit this guy with a hammer, 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.840 this heel got in the face of a guy outside 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.880 and then he got his leading to the baby faces 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.520 getting a win in their hometown, in the place that 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:04.960 the roof blew off the place. Yes, do I like 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.600 when a guy brings a bat into the ring and 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.760 he swings it and the guy catches it right in 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.879 front of the referee. It's not a D Q. No, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.920 I rant about it all the time. I rant about 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.160 it all the time. You can bring a gun into 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.760 the ring and that's okay until you pull the trigger. Yeah, 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.320 it's a pro wrestling troupe. I don't like it. But 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.800 to compare any of this, and even in that case, 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.240 the distraction led to a guy in a ring of 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.800 honor match with a code of honor cheating to win 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.960 the title, which, by the way, plays in the whole 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.679 storyline with Daniel Garcia, who keeps telling Chris Jericho. You 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.000 don't need to cheat, but he keeps cheating. There's a 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:47.600 story here. Guy Coming out, oh hey everybody, oh, I'm distracted. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.479 Oh I'm pinned. Next match. Guy Comes out. Oh, hi, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.119 I got the briefcase. Oh, I'm distracted, I'm pinned. The 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.840 same thing over and over again up and down the show. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.720 You can't see the difference between these two things. I 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.120 can't help you. You need what you need to listen 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:06.520 to another show. I agree with you. I do, because 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:11.000 when he comes to Jericho, obviously the whole thing is 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.040 about him not having honor, and he goes and he 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:14.879 takes a belt and one of the guys in his 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.399 own crew who he's already butted head with heads with 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:22.320 over this whole thing. Yeah, this is probably going to 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.760 lead to jared Moore with Jericho and Garcia for the 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.320 R O h title. I just that one made sense 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.399 to me. The same thing when he comes with the 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.720 slight of hand with the acclaimed and Keith Lee and swerved. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.520 The same exact thing now with PAC pack, excuse me, 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.959 and Orange Cassidy. I'm not sure I would have booked 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.920 that match. I understand having orange cassidy on the show 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.520 because he is a ratings mover and they had a 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.760 lot of their top guys and they wanted to make it, 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.200 as Tony Kahn said, pay per view worthy for both 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.160 dynamite and rampage. So I understand him being on there. 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.600 I would have liked to use somebody else in that 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:00.360 spot and gotten pock pack a clean win. But if 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.760 they're going somewhere with that story, okay, couldn't have maybe 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.360 waited for Friday or next Wednesday and you actually had 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.040 packet a clean victory over someone or Orange Cassidy get 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.560 a clean victory over someone? Sure I think that probably 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.639 would have been a little bit better with the other two. 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.000 With that said, it's also not the end of the 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.080 world as long as it's leading to something. This was 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.760 not a pay per view blow off of everything. It 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.440 was a TV show that they're gonna keep things moving on. 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.560 So I think that I can see why people are 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:32.880 a little bit salty about it, but I think that's 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.240 way overdone and anybody comparing it to what W W 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:39.160 does I mean you're just taking a loss right there. Anyway. Hey, listen, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:41.840 if you're mad that they did three of these in 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:46.600 a row, fine, you're absolutely welcome to be maginated through 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.840 and and listen if I were booking that show. I 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.359 don't have a problem with they did in the Jericho 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.480 match because it told the story. I don't have a 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.720 problem what they did in the acclaimed match because it 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.600 played into the story. You did not need to hit 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.879 orange cassidy with a hammer. You could have done a 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.680 clean finish in that match. It's not gonna hurt Orange Cassidy. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.880 Pak is a double champion. You didn't need to do it. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.320 Now the rest of the show there was a clean 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.639 finish in the women's match. You couldn't have had a 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:19.359 cleaner finish in the main event. John moxley choked Brian 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.359 Danielson out clean in the middle of the ring unconscious. 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.480 You couldn't have a cleaner finish. Did they need three 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.000 in a row at the beginning? No, they didn't. I 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:30.639 would have been I would have been fine with the 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.800 two and then clean finishes from that point forward. But 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:35.800 they decided they wanted to do to three. They wanted 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.560 to do whatever and they did it with Orange Cassidy 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.080 and I'm sure there will likely be some sort of 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.000 follow up. I don't know what it'll be, but assume 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.200 there will be there. Better be where we can look 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.480 at this with hindsight down the road and go, you know, 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.919 it really stuck out like a sore thumb. Again. If 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.240 they are going to do something with this, then it 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.280 makes sense. Otherwise, yeah, I mean to me, that's just 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:07.760 a very simple booking mistake. We got more there in 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.240 your comments right now. They're they're welcome to be on me. 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.639 I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you here what 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:17.600 I think. You don't have to like it. You usually don't. 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:22.800 Ron Monday killed one point seven, one million viewers, one 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:25.240 point six three in the second, one point four five 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:29.719 in the third. They took a beaten, but you know, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:33.720 these numbers are still similar to what they were doing 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.960 when Vince was there, which backs up my theory. I 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.520 believe that a whole bunch of people who would quit 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.600 decided to try again when triple h started up. But 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.840 those people are still more interested in watching football. This 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.879 is your core group of die hards. They watched it 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.560 during the worst of Vince and they're watching it now 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.680 and they're gonna keep watching it, which actually the good 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:02.439 news is. I believe I it that when football season 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.720 ends in its royal rumble season, they're not gonna have 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.120 a little jump, they're gonna have a big jump, big jump. 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.840 That's my that's my theory. Yeah, I think it's gonna 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.160 be huge because you're gonna have cody coming back. If 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.479 anything happens with the Rock, the royal rumble should be 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:17.920 re energized this year. We'll see, you know, we'll see 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:19.719 how these next couple of months ago, but I'll be 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.439 very surprised if they don't have a big increase. And 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.800 I don't know if you saw the rustle nomics charts 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.040 or any of the charts that actually have the ratings 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:31.320 on them. Like the people that tune into that show, 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.399 if you look at the eighteen to thirty four number, 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.320 excuse me, there's a lot more variety, obviously in the 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.760 overall but when you look at the eighteen to thirty 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.560 four number, it's almost a flat line throughout the entire show. 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:46.600 So again, there were two games on running concurrently and 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.040 granted they were not the best games in the world, 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.879 but the bottom line is it's NFL football along with 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.720 all the other competition that's on. So the people that 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.560 are tuning in, however many it's at the beginning. I 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.040 mean they are sticking with him the entire time. A 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.960 little drop off towards the end, and this Andrew Fellas says, 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.760 W W E is good, better than ninety seven raw 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:11.320 with triple. No, it's not easy, easy, nowhere close to 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:15.280 ninety seven raw raw. I think was the greatest year 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.200 I ever watched in W W E history, that ninete. 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.560 It was unreal. I say the show is classier. They 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.560 say that the rosters utilize better because you know, there's 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.840 no flying nuns and gold dust and weird outfits and everything. 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:33.879 But I mean, listen, they had bigger stars and ninety 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.840 nine nine and they had the rock and Austin everything 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.800 like that. But as far as like booking, nothing. There's 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:43.840 never a year better, and I've watched them all and 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.960 I've watched most of them twice. There was no year 0:23:47.040 --> 0:24:15.600 better than dynamite. Review after the break. Observer live bagging 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.600 the show. Brian ELVAR is here, wrestling observer live. Mike 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:22.160 Sumber VIV also wrestling observer DOT COM. You know who 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:26.520 wasn't rude on twitter last night? WHO MY SUPER FOLLOWERS? 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.240 I gave them special tweets as I watched dynamite and 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.600