1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: What's Up? 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 3: Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 3: presented by Splittero as always, joined by the Voice of 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 3: the Chargers, Matt Muney Smith. I'm Chris Hayry and Buddy 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: a little shell shocked. Just coming off the field. Did 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: not look good. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Rashaun Slater goes down on a cart and you know, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: I hate. 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: To speculate, but I just know looking at Rashawan and 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: the optics did not look good. 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: No, it's a bummer, man, and I'm sure it's gonna 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 4: come through. In the pod, you're talking about what I 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: believe is the best player on the team. I think 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 4: when you just talk in relation to the position across 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: the league, that Rashaun Slater's in the conversation as the 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 4: best left tackle in football. You know, is he the best? 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 4: I'm sure others would say Trent Williams or trust Tristan, 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: but he's in the conversation. I mean, he's and to 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: be able to put him on an island and not 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: have to worry about sending any help over there. We 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: know how good that left side of the line has 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: been year and a year out with Slater running the 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 4: ball to the left and then you know, to not 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 4: have like you said, don't want to speculate, but here's 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: kind of the way I saw it unfold. The way 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: that we're you know, as we're taping this right after 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: it happened, is it was it was a seven on 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: seven drill, but it was it was three offensive linemen 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: versus two defensive linemen. And I do I believe it 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: was Bozeman's Ion Slater, if my mind served my memory 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: serves correct. And Slater just went down like just kind 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: of and I don't know if he wasn't expecting the 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: engagement from the defensive player, or if Zion might have 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 4: leaned into him a little bit. Somebody something happened to 36 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: his left leg where he just went down immediately. And 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: I think we've been around sports long enough to be 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: able to read people's body language. He was very upset. 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: I think it's just I'm not going to speculate on 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: what the injury is as we're taping this. You'll probably 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: know by the time you see it. But he's very emotional. 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: He threw his helmet, he pounded the back of the cart. 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: I mean, it was a you know, you could hear 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: that bang ring throughout training camp, every player came up, 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: gave him a hug, and then he just immediately sunk 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: his head and threw a towel over his face and 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: had to be helped into the locker room. And we 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 4: know how much he loves to compete, how many injuries 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: he's played through in his career. He's an absolute, you know, 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: to use the term warrior. He's one of those guys 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 4: that plays through anything and everything to be out there 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: to protect Justin's blindside and man for it to be 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: a seven on seven drill on August seventh. It's a 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 4: real gut punch. 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: Complete air out of Elsagunda, that entire field and the 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: fans watching. And this was supposed to be a celebratory day. 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen back in powder blue, and you know the 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 3: crowd was into it, a lot of pops for number 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: thirteen and then you know it was hot out there 60 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: today too, you see, and Branson Taylor, the rookie, he 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: went down earlier in practice as well. 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: But when number seventy. 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: Goes down, it completely changes everything that you want to 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: do offensively. This was probably the best tackle duo in 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: football when you combine Alton Slater and just what they 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: were doing in the trajectory that they had, and now 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: there's just a lot of questions as to A, how 68 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: do you replace him in the short term and b 69 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: what do you do in the long term in an 70 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: effort to get ready for Brazil and just the combination 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: of the offensive line. That was the one thing that 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: I think it is just so frustrated right now Mondy 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: because a just as a guy. 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: You just you really feel for Rashawn May's. 75 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: He's a great dude, highest of character, and just somebody 76 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: that this team relies. 77 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: On year in a year out. That was the constant. 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: We knew it was gonna be Alton Slater, we knew 79 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: it was going to be Becton at right guard. You know, 80 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: it sounds like, you know, that was something we were 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: going to get into today with Zion and Bozeman, seems 82 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: like they're part of the best five. Has it changed 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: the way that we look at the offensive line right now? 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: Well, to me, that's that's the big question. You know 85 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: that you're going to have to dig into with with 86 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: Joe Ortiz, you know, the Geordie's and Jim Harbor gonna 87 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: have to dig into with coach Devlin, with coach Hardwick 88 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 4: and try to figure out does it make more sense 89 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 4: to move Joe to the to the left side and 90 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: drop Trey at right tackle or does it make more 91 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: sense to keep Alton beckeding together on that right side 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: and drop Trey back at the left tackle position next design. 93 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: I think that's ultimately And look, this is a reminder, 94 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 4: you know, when we were doing when they were dipping 95 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: into free agency and everyone was trying to figure out 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: can we get more money, how do we get DeVante 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: that sort of thing, and a lot of people were asking, 98 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 4: why don't you just dust Trey and that nine million 99 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: bucks and that can maybe get you to a spot 100 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: where you can go get and we kept pointing out like, look, 101 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: you you want depth on the offensive line, man, you 102 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: do not want to mess around if one of these 103 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: tackles goes down. And now, I mean, think about the 104 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 4: position they would be in right now if they had 105 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: cut Trey Pipkins, you know. And so I think it's 106 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: that's why you need that swing tackle to be able 107 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: to account for an injury like this. So that, to 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 4: me is probably what's going to be the most interesting 109 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: is do they want to break up the mountain on 110 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: the right side of the line, to put Joe at 111 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 4: left tackle, where obviously he played at Notre Dame and 112 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 4: was great against the Raiders, and that Week eighteen contest, 113 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: or do you just put Trey back at left tackle 114 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: and whor's Jamari saw you're in that COMPETI conversation. 115 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: Go back to twenty twenty two when saw you're fielding 116 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: very admirably for Slater on that left side. I think 117 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: it was twenty twenty two. It was, Yeah, when Slater 118 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: went down, and that's he was a rookie. Yeah, he 119 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: was a rookie, and that's a guy that we've we've 120 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: heard coach Harbaugh and company talk about just coming into 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: camp in really good shape and maybe another option on 122 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: the outside, Pipkins. I feel like it would be natural 123 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: to it came out to right tackle, bring All to left. 124 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: But again, like you said, it kind of breaks that up. 125 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: But we saw All at the end of last year 126 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: play left tackle. I believe was that Raiders game Rashaun 127 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: did not play in, so that's natural for him, Like 128 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: you said, he did it at Notre Dame. You know, 129 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: there's no silver lining to this, Okay, let me just 130 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: say that. When I say that, at least there are 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: three weeks for Joe to see what's out there. 132 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: The problem is we're just kind of there's time on this. 133 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: There's never tackles. 134 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: There's never tackles unless you are giving up an elite 135 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: player on your football team to get one if there's 136 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: a surplus. But nobody's given them away tackles in August. 137 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: No, And the only reason why Trent Williams got traded 138 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: is it was a contract impass. 139 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: That was Washington. 140 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't want to pay him, and he demanded 141 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: a trade and they traded him, and it proved to 142 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: bite him in the tail because he's still arguably the 143 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: best left tackle in football and has been for that 144 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: half decade, and so that was a rare occasion. Now, look, 145 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: Tunsel just got traded, you know, back to from Houston 146 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: to Washington to Washington's so like it can happen. There 147 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: was you know, and he was traded from Miami to 148 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: Houston when he was in the conversation, is one of 149 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: the best left tackles in football, So like, can it happen? Yes, 150 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: when you just paid the guy, that's the thing, the contract. 151 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: It's hard to now take on money and someone who's 152 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: proven like that. That's the other issue is you're now 153 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: you know it would have to be a short term. 154 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: It's just yeah, it's it's not I wish, I wish 155 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: I had answers. I just I keep having, you know, unfortunately, 156 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: to have your eyes on it and to see how 157 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: upset Tray was or to how upset Rashawn was on 158 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: the back of that cart, it just leaves a lasting impression. 159 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: That's that's such a bummer, you know. 160 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: I was just I was thinking about this drive it 161 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: in today. Just how different the offense looks right now 162 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: compared to in that wildcard game in Houston, and you 163 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: know the constants again where Rashawn and Joe. I mean, 164 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: you look at all across the offense that there was 165 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: really no running game two point nine yards to carry, 166 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: You're bringing Nause, bringing Amarion. 167 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: There's just so many more weapons on the outside. 168 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: You know. 169 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: The one kind of question in that Houston game was 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: the interior offensive line. So now that's still a bit 171 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: of a question going into this season. 172 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: With center and left guard. 173 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: It looks like Bradley and Zion right now, or as 174 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, one of the five best according to 175 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: coach Harball. Now you have a kind of a cloudy 176 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: situation at left tackle. Justin has played with offensive lines 177 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: that you know, remember I remember his rule. 178 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: It's funny, Chris, you're reading my mind. I'm going to 179 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 4: it right now, because look, you're talking about a guy 180 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: that put up nearly five thousand yards his rookie season, 181 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: as I'm going to it with an offensive line that 182 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: was Sam Tevey, Forrest Lamp, Dan Feeney, Trey Turner, and 183 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: Brian Bloga. None of them are in the league anymore. 184 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: Brian Beloga was on active retirement at right tackle and 185 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: stealing I shouldn't say that. Trey Turner and Dan Feeney 186 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: for a slam, I mean forgive us, yeah, I mean 187 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: he you know, those guys, like I said, they're not 188 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 4: in the league anymore, and that's playing behind that that line. 189 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: Justin Herbert put up the best rookie season by a 190 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: quarterback ever. So I think it probably Greg Roman. This 191 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: is where he comes into play. This is where Shane 192 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: Day comes into play. Where all of these coaches and 193 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: it's one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL. Okay, 194 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 4: we have to adjust now, we've got to adjust what 195 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: we want to do with our offense. If Slater's not 196 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: out there, and now you've got to send protection over there, 197 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 4: or if you just want to put alt on that 198 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 4: side and treat him like Slater and Alts on an island. 199 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: We trust that he's going to do what we saw 200 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: for the majority, if not all, of last year. And 201 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: then you send your help to the other side, to 202 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: Trey and and that's where you'll see Will Disley and 203 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: Tucker Fisk and Scott Matt Locke line up, and that's 204 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: where your pass pro is going to be on your 205 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 4: running back side. And then you adjust, you know, you 206 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: adj justin and you move forward. 207 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: This happened forty minutes ago. Just you know, if you're 208 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: watching this on a Friday, we're taping this forty minutes 209 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: after this happened. So our rundown completely blown up. By 210 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: the way, KeAndre Lambert Smith is going to join us, 211 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: I wanted to mention that at the good time with him. Yeah, 212 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: that's gonna be good. But again, this was supposed to 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: be a celebration of Keenan Allen coming back to the 214 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: Chargers and talking to KOs and just about his really 215 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: strong camp so far and what he did in the 216 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game, and now you know you're always 217 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: presented with curveballs in the preseason and training. Canva injuries 218 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: are inevitable in the NFL. And the fact that it 219 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: happened in a seven on seven drill versus a preseason game, 220 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: it's just it's it's a violent game, and it just, man, 221 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 3: it just really sucks to have one of the best 222 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: players on this football team, with so much prime in 223 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: front of them, have this happen to him. 224 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and again just to kind of highlight, you're talking 225 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: about a forty three hundred and thirty six yard passing 226 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: season in fifteen games. Remember he didn't come in until 227 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: Week two. Week one in Cincinnati was Tarad Taylor completes 228 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: has thirty one touchdowns to just ten interceptions and a 229 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: QB rating of ninety eight point three. That is his 230 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: second best quarterback rating of his career. Was that rookie 231 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 4: season behind that line, and completed sixty seven percent of 232 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: his past his highest, his second highest completion rate. 233 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: It was the best rookie quarterback season ever. 234 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean saved Jayden Daniels last year, ye who 235 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: carried his team to this numbers and were better than 236 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: Jadon during the regular season, though, but I mean it 237 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: was so what I'm saying is like he can do it. 238 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: Herbert can operate behind an offensive line that is not elite, 239 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: and and look, Joe Alt's elite, So you're still going 240 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: to have an elite left tackle. And now it's a 241 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: question as to whether or not, you know, those five 242 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: pieces can coalesce here. You know, we're it's August seventh, 243 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: The Chiefs game is September fifth. You've got plenty of 244 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: time to find that right combination to get this thing rolling. 245 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 4: And look, you can if you can run block, you 246 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 4: can get that running game going, and now your play 247 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: actions working. And we know that Greg Roman's got a 248 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 4: lot better options at tight end this season than he 249 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: did last season, and that's always been a big part 250 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: of what he's done. And I think, you know, you 251 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: might see a lot more. I think if you talk 252 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 4: about roster construction, you're probably talking about Tucker Fisk now 253 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: being a lock to make this team, I would think, 254 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: and I always kind of thought he was, But you're 255 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 4: gonna he's a great block. He and Will Disley are 256 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: great and Matt Locke that trio together was fantastic last year, 257 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 4: and so I think you're gonna see him be a 258 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 4: big part of this and helping out either at that 259 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: fullback position or at the tight end position attached to 260 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: the line to help out one side. And that's just 261 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: the way they'll have to adjust. 262 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that tight end room has never been more important. 263 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: Now you mentioned those names and getting Disley back to 264 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: being a. 265 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: He's such a great blocker, he was relied upon. I mean, 266 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: I go back to that Houston game, Tucker Fisket, Well, 267 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: just they we're catching balls. 268 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 269 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: Now you have Conklin, you have Ronde Gatz, and we'll 270 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: see what he looks like in the preseason. So something 271 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: to look for over the next couple of weeks is 272 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: A how are they going to fill it internally? 273 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: And B what is Joe Wortez? What can he do? 274 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: Kind of surveying the landscape of the other thirty one 275 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: NFL teams and figuring that out and seeing if there's 276 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: a guy that maybe they can identify as somebody who's 277 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: who's started in the past that at least provides depth 278 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: to maybe some of the guys who are currently on 279 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: the roster. It's just a lot of a lot of 280 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: questions right now, money, anything else before we kind of 281 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: shift to Keenan. 282 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just seeing if anybody is still available. And 283 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: it like, you know, obviously you've got guards available and 284 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 4: sheriff and Will Hernandez. But as far as the tackle market, 285 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about Dan Moore getting eighty two 286 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: million dollars, you know, you're talking about Jalen Moore getting 287 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: you know what, thirty million dollars. Cam Robinson, like those guys, 288 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: they just go off the market, even guys that have 289 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 4: tough seasons. They're like, let's get him in, see if 290 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: we can coach him up. That's how high demand tackles are. 291 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: So it's it's pretty hard to find one one out 292 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: there unless a team, you know, like we said, is 293 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: just dealing with a contract potential upcoming contract situation. But 294 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: I think moving forward to put the positive spin on it, 295 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: it's why you keep Trey. You know, Trey's a starter 296 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: in this league. Treys has played solid tackle. You mentioned 297 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: Jamari Sawyer his his rookie season playing at at a 298 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: solid you just need. It's great to have elite at 299 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: offensive line, you just need solid. You can't have bad. 300 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: If you can have solid across the line, you can win. 301 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: If you have bad, that's when you find a soft spot. 302 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: A defense finds a sauce spot, relentlessly attacks and it's 303 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: hard to overcome that. And I think if you look 304 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: at the char Arrest roster, they have solid I think 305 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: either Sawyer or Pitt can be solid in those positions, 306 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: along with some of the best, if not the best 307 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: blocking tight end room in the league. 308 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: All Right, let's shift our focus. Let's get positive to 309 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: the wide receivers room. This was supposed to be the 310 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: start of the podcast. Keenan Allen is back. Got a 311 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: big pop out there his first practice at the bolt 312 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: Wearing that powder blue looked very familiar money. And you know, 313 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: we we didn't talk much about Keenan of the last 314 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: few weeks because we thought that they were just going 315 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: to kind of keep this room as is. But that 316 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: sudden retirement of Mike Williams, I think kind of opened 317 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: up a spot. And although there is a degree of 318 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: repetitiveness between lad and Keenan, I mean I looked at 319 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: this is one of the things I looked at this morning, 320 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: just the third down conversion rates during the Justin Herbert 321 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: Era right. In twenty twenty, they were tenth in third 322 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: down conversion twenty one, three, twenty two, eight, twenty three, sixteen. 323 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: But you know, keep in mind the last four or 324 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: five games of that season, yes, a disaster and Justin' 325 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: even play. 326 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: So the common theme to that was Keenan Allen. 327 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: You know last year they were thirteenth in third down 328 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: conversion and no, just the fact that Keenan can get 329 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: open and lad can get open. I do think it 330 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: creates mismatches on third down. I think the addition of 331 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: Tyler Conklin in that mix gonna give Justin a lot 332 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: more opportunity to get the ball out. 333 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: Of his hands quickly. 334 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, we talked about this when Mike went down. 335 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: Or are they gonna go get Amari Cooper? Are they 336 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: going to sign Gain Gave Davis? Might they trade for 337 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: Scary Terry? You know? And I think we were correct 338 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: in our assessment that we said no. I think they're 339 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: gonna give the guy the kids a look and see 340 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: if these rookies can flash enough, which they have been, 341 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: which they have been. But I also think, like today 342 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: we saw Trey make a beautiful back of the end 343 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: zone over the shoulder catch on a go ball from Justin. 344 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: I mean, he just talked about concentration, did it. I 345 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: think it was cam Hart who they were fighting, hand 346 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: fighting the whole way down the right sideline and was 347 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 4: able to get that last burst of separation. It's beautiful play. 348 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: And that's what we saw on Sunday as well. Had 349 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: a heck of a practice. Monday had some drops had 350 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: and I think kind of what we've seen from both 351 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: the rookies is a rookies and there's just not that 352 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: consistency day after day after day after day where it 353 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 4: looks the same like it looks when Keenan's out there, 354 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: like it looks when Lad mcconkey's out like when you 355 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 4: see Ladd at practice every single day, you're like, they 356 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: got one of them, they got a true number one receiver. 357 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: And I think it's normal for a rookie like to 358 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: place these expectations on rookie receivers. Remember, it used to 359 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 4: take two three years for rookie receivers to get settled 360 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: and to get comfortable, and now that whole thing's just 361 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: been blown to heck because of some of these rookie 362 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: campaigns by Jamar Chase and Malik Neighbors and like, these 363 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 4: guys that are sensational have kind of changed the expectation 364 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: level for rookie and Lad for that matter. You know, 365 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: when you put together a season like that, that's just 366 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: what you think it's supposed to look like. But really 367 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: the norm is a little bit more like Marvin Harrison 368 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: Junior in Arizona, where everyone was so upset and it's 369 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: like guy had eight hundred and fifty yards and nine touchdowns. 370 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: I mean that's a pretty darket. So I think what 371 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm getting at is, I think they wanted some consistency. 372 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: They wanted to make sure, you know what you're opening 373 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: with the Chiefs then, than the Raiders, than the Broncos. 374 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 4: Let's make sure we have what we think is a 375 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: guarantee a high floor. Let's get that high floor. And 376 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: that's what you're gonna get with Keenan and Ladd out 377 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: it Keenan, Ladd and Q out there, you know, as 378 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: opposed to Ladd Q and pick your rookie wide receiver, 379 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 4: you know, because there's just it's the unknown, it's Brazil, 380 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: it's it's national television, it's you know, the Chiefs, and 381 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: and so I think the keenan thing makes a lot 382 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: of sense on that front. 383 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: It does, And you know, his numbersformed actually bad last year. 384 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: He was he was hurt for a little time, and 385 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: it was it was kind of a disaster situational offensively, 386 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: when you know, I think he had two or three 387 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 3: different offensive play callers last year. And you know, keep 388 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: in mind a couple of years ago he caught one 389 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: hundred and six balls for over twelve hundred yards in 390 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: seven touchdowns. So he was putting a wide receiver one numbers. 391 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, with Justin Herbert as his quarterback, 392 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: he's not going to be asked to do that. 393 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: Ladd'll be number one. I think, I really do think 394 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Q is going to continue to ascend. I like what 395 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: I've seen Trey Harris had a couple of really nice balls. 396 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm man like. That's what it's been 397 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: for him and kalas Like they've had really, really great 398 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 4: days and then they've had rookie days. 399 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: So it's it's a combination of maybe being a little 400 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: bit of an insurance policy fort I mean, Lad hasn't 401 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: practiced in a couple of weeks too. We should make 402 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: you know, Becton hasn't practice either, which is another thing 403 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: we didn't play out with regards to the offensive line. 404 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: But I think it's a you could play Ladd and 405 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: Keenan on the field together on third down and and 406 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: b if Ladd were to go down or vice versa, 407 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: you have that guy who can play that true slot. 408 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I just just look at the splits. I 409 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 4: mean you're talking about, you know, guys that have been 410 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: effective in both spots. For certain you know, Ladd was 411 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 4: incredibly effective lining up outside, but he was more effective 412 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: in the slot. Keenan Allen effective outside, more effective in 413 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 4: the slot. So that's you want to put players in 414 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 4: the position to perform at their best, and I think 415 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: that's where each of them perform at their best. One 416 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 4: I'll be interested to see is if Greg Roman gets 417 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 4: creative and you start seeing, you know, both of them 418 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: in the slot where Keenan takes that tight end spot 419 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: you know from Tyler, and instead of it being instead 420 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: of it being a Rendez gaztent er Tyler Conklin out there, 421 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: it's Keenan and Ladd both in that slot position. And 422 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: I could see that being the case. And look, just 423 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: going back to our initial conversation about how do you 424 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: adjust with the loss of for Shaan Slater, you know 425 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: who's better at quick game than Keenan? I mean, who 426 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: who dusts his guys on the line of scrimmage. 427 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: It's a perfect segue to what just happened. 428 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. It's like he gets open right away, lad 429 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: gets open right away. You can build your offense around 430 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: that and on yak and just get that thing moving 431 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: if you have an effective running game, and that can 432 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 4: work as well. But I think to me, like one 433 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: of the more interesting things is also, you know what's 434 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: this going to look like on game day? Because I 435 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: can't imagine they're going to keep six receivers active on 436 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: game day? 437 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Like that's well, I mean, do you count Darius Davis? 438 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, six receives, That's what I'm saying. 439 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: So we already have and we've talked about Rager and Rice. 440 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: In some of these other guys that I mean, I'm 441 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 4: just talking about, Like, I think that's that's a different 442 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: conversation about how that might work for the room with 443 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: the addition to Keenan. But for me, it's like if 444 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: you have Q, Keenan, ladd Darius, right, and then you're 445 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 4: gonna have between Trey and KLS, I think will be 446 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: that fifth receiver. It's hard to carry six receivers on 447 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: game day when you need depth in the secondary, depth 448 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: on the defensive line. 449 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: You know, who's the sixth receiver. 450 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 4: So that's the question. I think that's now what becomes 451 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: an intense competition. I think between these two rookies when 452 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: it comes to who's going to be active on game 453 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: day and which one of the two fits into that 454 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: room better. You know, we always talk about those because 455 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 4: that's why they call it a basketball team, because usually 456 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: have five guys that are active on you know, so 457 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 4: build your basketball team. Who's my power forward, who's my 458 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 4: point guard, who's my shoot you know, who's my volume shooter? 459 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: Kind of So that's that to me, is going to 460 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 4: be interesting how this thing shakes out. 461 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: I argue that I think the biggest winner in all 462 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: of this is both Trey, Harris and KLS because the 463 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: amount of attention that Keenan and Ladd present to the defense, 464 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 3: especially KLS with that four to three seven speed. I mean, 465 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: you know, Justin will find you. If you're one on 466 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: one and you beat your man, Justin will find you. 467 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: Seame with Trey Harris, So I think a learning from 468 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 3: Keenan in the room, but also just having that extra 469 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: veteran who knows this. And you bring up a good 470 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: point about brazil Man, like you want a guy who's 471 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: been there with those bright lights on them. The one 472 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: thing I will say is, as familiar as it looks 473 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: to fans, this is unfamiliar to Keenan, Like he has 474 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: never practiced at the Bowl, he has never had this 475 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 3: coaching staff as his coaching staff. There's been a lot 476 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: of turnover even from last year's roster to this year's roster, 477 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: so a lot of new guys still going to take 478 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: some time I think for Keenan to really kind of 479 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: integrate into this team. 480 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think the most important connections there though, 481 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: right it's justin Herbert. Yeah, and we know those guys 482 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 4: were special together. So I think that at least you know, 483 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: I know where you want me to be. He knows 484 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: where you're going to be, and that's why I'm going 485 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: to throw the ball with anticipation and expect you to 486 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: be there. I'm like, that's the most important part of it. 487 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: But I do think it probably adds some new wrinkles 488 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: and a new approach to Greg Roman's playbook when you 489 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: have those two guys that are most effective from the slot, 490 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 4: and how you want to build that out, particularly on 491 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: third down. So it's it's exciting to see him out there. 492 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 4: It's exciting to see the fans, you know, when he 493 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: was just running routes on the more and people cheering, 494 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 4: it was a real It was a great start to 495 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: practice today with Keenan out there, having a bounce in 496 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 4: his step and catching passes from Justin Herbert. So there's 497 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: some positive. 498 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 499 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: By the way, there's also a game on Sunday that 500 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: we haven't even discussed before we get to KLS. Let's 501 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 3: just maybe give us a ten thousand foot view of 502 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: what we're expecting Sunday. 503 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: I think quarterback competition. 504 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: You think the depth chart came out and said trade 505 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: Lance or Taylor Heinez. 506 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: You didn't say, no, that's a competition. Yeah, it's a competition. 507 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 4: That's a full flaw. And I think I think you're 508 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: probably looking at a I think you're probably looking at 509 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 4: a two quarterback team. I think now you know last 510 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: year they carried three. If I had to guess, I 511 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 4: would think it's probably two moving forward, So that's something 512 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: to keep an eye on. I think the other I 513 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: think the other position groups. You saw what Nico Reid 514 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 4: did out there, You saw what Myles Purchase did out there. 515 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: I think the secondary is incredibly competitive. Are they going 516 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 4: to carry five safeties? You know, Tony Jefferson is so 517 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: important in that room, had an interception in the Hall 518 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: of Fame game, So I think that's the question. You know, 519 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: if it's Derwin, Aloie, Elijah and and Mickens, you know 520 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 4: who's played really well and his looks to be maybe 521 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: a special team or potential core four guy, and and 522 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: then is that fifth guy going to be Tony? So 523 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 4: that's keep an eye I thought Caleb Murphy played great. 524 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: He did that in that Hall of Fame game, and 525 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: we know this coaching staff is familiar with them practice. 526 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: Where did he go to school? 527 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: Again? 528 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: It was it Farris. 529 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: It was like their Division two had like twenty five 530 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: sacks or something senior year exactly. 531 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: So, and I think you need that special team or 532 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: you need that Chris Rump special teamer two ley two 533 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: polo two special teams slot filled for the four core guys. 534 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 4: And and I think Caleb's shown that he can be 535 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: that guy. So that's something to keep an eye on. 536 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: We're going to. 537 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: See Chris Rump, Kellen Vore, old old Chargers coaching staff. 538 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: The offensive line. 539 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 3: It looks like so Zion had that that one snap, 540 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: but for the most part, it seems like. 541 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: He botched exchange. He had a high and he had 542 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 4: a high snap. Look. I think they just want to 543 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 4: get this thing moving, and it's like, and I thought 544 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: he blocked well. I thought he blocked really well in 545 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 4: that game, and when we talked about it, you know 546 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 4: that Friday after the game. So but I think they 547 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: just want to get it settled. And now it's going 548 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 4: to have to be settled on a different sort of 549 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 4: front with the loss of Slater. 550 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 3: So defensively, Kyle Kinard it looked like he was off 551 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: to the side today as well as Junior Colson. Colson 552 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: played well into the second half. Good to have den 553 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 3: Zel back. But as far as the linebacker room, we 554 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: know what Dayon and Denzel provide. I think if Junior 555 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: can play Sunday, big spot for him. 556 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I mean he played the second most 557 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: snaps of any player, and I think that tells you 558 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: that this coaching staff wants to see it. They're like, 559 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: you know, you got put behind the eight ball last year, 560 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 4: Let's see it. I thought there were some really good 561 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 4: from Junior had a great tackle for loss. I think 562 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 4: there was some things that he's got to clean up, 563 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 4: kept kind of getting sucked in on some of those 564 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: pass plays that went to the outside. So I think 565 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 4: they'll probably want to see a little more from him 566 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: as well, because right now I think we've seen your 567 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: starters are probably Denzel and day On and it's been 568 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: Troy Die who's been that third linebacker as it stands 569 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 4: right now. So look, this team is deep, which is 570 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 4: what makes these preseason games fun because you've got guys 571 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 4: playing that are going to get that are going to 572 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 4: be in the rotation on Sundays. We know how Jesse 573 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 4: Minner likes to rotate these guys, and I would suspect 574 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: you're gonna have some legitimate competition out there from guys 575 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: that you're going to see get a handful of snaps 576 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 4: at least every single Sunday. 577 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: I got a few shout outs from from Canton, uh 578 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: Nick and Darren saw you guys at the enshrinement. You 579 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: guys listen to the post and appreciate that. And then 580 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: Scott Elliott saw you at the ensronment said, uh, say hello, 581 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: I'm mat Money Smith. 582 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: Oh so there you go. 583 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. 584 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: Uh so shout out to you guys, thank you for 585 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: watching and listening. 586 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: And real quick before we get the KLSSI do you 587 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: want to mention Molly? Uh you interviewed her on CBS, 588 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: little girl Molly that I talked to at a couple 589 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: of different Charger practices and kept showing me the video 590 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: of you interview in her last year at the ball, 591 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: and so I kept saying, Molly, I promise I will 592 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: mention you, and I forgot for like three weeks. But 593 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 4: here you go, Molly. There is your there's your shadow Molly. 594 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: So there's there's something worth a smile. 595 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: It started tough, ended on a high note with Molly. 596 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: All right, without further ado, here's KLS well Money. He's 597 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: become an instant fan favorite. Key and Dre Leverard Smith 598 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: joins us on Chargers Weekly, and Key and Dre just 599 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 3: described the last three weeks you're making plays on the 600 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: field and the fans are certainly taking notice. 601 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: Uh it's crazy. 602 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 5: I was just talking to my you know, one of 603 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 5: my uncles who just came to visit me at practice, 604 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 5: and I told him it's been it's been not short 605 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: of amazing. 606 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: A little overwhelming. 607 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 5: Uh, but I mean I'm just taking it all in 608 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 5: and not trying to get caught up in it too 609 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 5: much because I mean, just been experiencing a lot of 610 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 5: love on social media d ms, you know, from the family. 611 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: Friends, everybody. Ls. 612 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 5: I just I just told somebody else I felt bad 613 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 5: I couldn't sign all the autographs and. 614 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 2: They told him I had to come up here. But 615 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just walking. 616 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 5: By kill that's Dray big play. I'm just like, yo, 617 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 5: I don't got a problem with it. I ain't gonna lie. 618 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: I love it. 619 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: But you know, it's been amazing. Man. I'm just trying to, 620 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: you know, continue to. 621 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 5: I feel like it's just a start, So continue to, 622 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 5: you know, prove myself and earn respect to my team, first, 623 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 5: coaching staff, and the fans. 624 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: Uh. You let me write to what my first question 625 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 4: is selfishly, is the guy that's calling the games? You know, 626 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: I want to make sure I get you right. So 627 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: everybody says kalless, But you have an interesting name because 628 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: you could be key. You can be Dre. You could 629 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: be Lambeau. You can be snitty like like what but right, 630 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: like what nicknames did you have growing up? And what 631 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: do you like best? Or is it Lambert Smith or 632 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: is it like what do you prefer? 633 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: So I'm so happy you asked that question. 634 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 5: So people in the locker room, like teammates, friends, they 635 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 5: call me Dre. Okay, So like when I got here, 636 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: I got kind of introduced as k Les, so like 637 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 5: I had to start telling like k Mack for instance, 638 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 5: to see me like klss. I said, Hey, Matt, you 639 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: call me Dre like you feel me so friends and 640 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 5: like guys my age and the people I see, you know, 641 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 5: interact with on the day to day, my teammates, I'm like, 642 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 5: y'all can call me Dre kalles, I feel like it's 643 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 5: more for the announcers and maybe the coaches sometimes. 644 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: But do you not like it? 645 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: No? 646 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 5: I like it, but it kind of originated my last 647 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: year at Auburn's hold. 648 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: On it is Bundy of friends or is Bundy of play? 649 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: No established friend? 650 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: But you can so you can basically call me anything, honestly, Dre. 651 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 5: I did see a poster at practice somebody brought it 652 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: to practice and said, Lambo, I'm like, I kind of 653 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 5: gave myself that nickname back in the day and it 654 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: didn't stick yourself. 655 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I have a lot of likes like that. 656 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: Great it is. 657 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 5: It is big Tray everything. The only thing I say 658 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 5: about big player Dre. We kind of got big play Dre, 659 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: Big play Tray. I seen Quay the big play play. 660 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: I'm all right, big play kind of but uh man, 661 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 5: I take everything you know, call me anything, Okay. 662 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: Well, you know what if it's big play Trey Andre, 663 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: that could work two your working at the same time. 664 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: That's that's all right. I'm gonna file that one. 665 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: That due opened me exactly but that can become something 666 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: exactly right, you. 667 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: Think it's gonna I go back to your your draft 668 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: call when Jim Harball calls you and he says, what 669 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: do you get a load of our quarterback? Yeah, but 670 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: when he gets a load of me, you know, just 671 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: that confidence right from the beginning. Take me back to 672 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: to draft day, because I'm sure you thought you were 673 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: going to go before the fifth round. Uh, but sometimes 674 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: it's just it's the fit, right, and the fact that 675 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: s J got on the call and said hey, unanimous 676 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: in this building. We all wanted you here. 677 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 678 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 5: So the thing is like, that's what a lot of 679 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 5: people would imagine, like, oh, I know you wanted to 680 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: go before the fifth. When people kept asking me like 681 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: we're right, anything you're gonna go, I literally told him 682 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: I just told you, I go to a good situation, 683 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 5: like because I always knew, like it's people who went undrafted, 684 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 5: Gates Hall of Famer. 685 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: It's right, people. 686 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 5: Who went late and around and now they're Hall of Famers. 687 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 5: So I'm like, it doesn't matter. Only different that separated. 688 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 5: That is the money at the beginning and contrasts and 689 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 5: stuff like that. But I'm like, man, I just want 690 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 5: to go to a situation where I got a chance 691 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 5: to prove myself and uh what the elite gun slinker 692 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 5: back there? And the thing is I didn't. I had 693 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: no idea I was coming to La so it kind 694 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 5: of was shocking. And then when I took it in, 695 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, that's ten back there. So that's 696 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: where that when he said wait to get a load 697 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 5: of our quarterback, I'm just like, man, wait till you get 698 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 5: a load of me, Like, you know, just appreciative, like 699 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 5: I said, caught me off guard, but I'm happy to 700 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 5: be in. 701 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 4: LA when like, I'm sure you saw it. But we 702 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: were talking to Greg Roman, an oppressor, and he said, 703 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: you know, he reminds me and he was going through 704 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 4: it and he mentioned Braindon Lloyd, like, oh, that's an 705 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 4: interesting yeah. And because you know, when we were talking 706 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 4: about Brandon Lloyd, it's like, you know, I just always 707 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: start a brand Lloyd. It's kind of that physical boundary 708 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 4: kind of you know, playing fifty to fifty balls. So 709 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: like who do you see like or who did you study? 710 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 4: Did you study? Guys come out like I want to 711 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 4: I want to play like that. 712 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: This is another great question at the perfect time. So 713 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: it's funny how the world worked. My favorite receiver ever 714 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 5: growing up Antonio o' brown. Okay, and I wear eighty four. 715 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite recently you look like, hey, I appreciate that. 716 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: That's that's a big, big time compliment. My favorite receiver 717 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: like more current the gang Kanan Allen. 718 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: Wow. 719 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 5: So it's funny how I wore eighty four and I 720 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 5: came to LA and I came him back. So I 721 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 5: beg those two guys Man and Omar Cooper, like anybody 722 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 5: who you know, nice route running and I grew up 723 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 5: a stillis fan, so that's what kind of ab kind 724 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 5: of caught my eye. And just the swagger he played with, 725 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 5: the confidence he played with, never seen him get guarded 726 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 5: to Tony toe tap, just his aura on. 727 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: The field was just everything, and I loved it. 728 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 5: And then, like I said, Kanan Omar Cooper, any guys 729 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 5: more recent run routes. I try to just you know, 730 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 5: I feel like that's what separates me and I like 731 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: to get open. 732 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: I like to run routes. And we shot on that 733 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 4: touchdown at the Hall of Fame game. 734 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like that. You know what I'm saying. It's 735 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: a lot of love. 736 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but just I feel like that's the way it 737 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: really can separate you as a receiver if you're not 738 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 5: the I feel like I'm pretty fast, but you that's 739 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 5: something that you don't got to be faster? 740 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: Do you? Four three seven? 741 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah? 742 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, faster than pretty fast. 743 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: I mean, wonderfu you being humble? 744 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: But come on, yeah, okay, I got the speed. Yeah. 745 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: Where all do you? 746 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 4: Man? 747 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all do you? 748 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 4: Hey? 749 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: What was that first interaction with Keenan? 750 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 2: Like, what was it? I dopped him up. 751 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 5: I said, I didn't want to be I didn't want 752 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 5: to come off to fan boy. 753 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: I'm a he's my teammate. 754 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 5: Now it's still counter of saying him. I'm like, all right, 755 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: that's Keenan, that's Keenan Islan. 756 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: And he was walking. 757 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 5: I just went to them all smooth, like, hey, nice 758 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: to meet you, drapped him up at Keenan, and I 759 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 5: kept it pushing. Now when I turn around, I was like, 760 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 5: but then even after practice. 761 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 2: I just talked to him. 762 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 5: I said, man, you know, I want to I want 763 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 5: you to watch my routes and just help me, you know, 764 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 5: critique me and see what you see, because, like I said, 765 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 5: that's what I was watching before getting into the lead 766 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 5: throughout college. And it's just funny, you know, seeing him 767 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 5: at practice as soon as he ran his first route, 768 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 5: I said, yeah, that's ken But I said that boy, yeah, 769 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 5: that's the releases. 770 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 4: So like, how how do you get better at that? 771 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 4: Like what is it that you've experienced that someone like 772 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 4: Keenan can say? Is it just the nuances? Is it? 773 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 4: Is it little things that only someone like him can 774 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 4: pick up? Like what do you expect to get out 775 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 4: of that? 776 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 5: It's kind of like a uh, So, I feel like 777 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 5: a lot of it is filled. But I also feel 778 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 5: like if you just got those certain tools in your 779 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 5: bag and you know when to apply him, you can 780 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 5: get open. Like I feel like it started back when 781 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 5: I was at Penn State and I'm behind John Dotson, 782 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 5: and he the first one I seen do a split release. 783 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 5: He got it from Devontae Adams. I didn't know that, 784 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 5: so I sar. I'm watching his one on ones as 785 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 5: I'm watching mine. I'm watching his reps, and then I'm 786 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 5: just going out there and I'm just trying new stuff 787 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 5: and it either stick or don't. So like, I also 788 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 5: came up with Parker Washington. He's in Jacksonville right now. 789 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 5: You know he came in. He's from Texas, so he 790 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: had sweet feet. So he's teaching me different stuff on 791 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 5: my feet at the release and routes. So I'm just 792 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: taking all of these pointers and I don't got no pride, 793 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 5: So it can be if I'm on Instagram and there's 794 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 5: somebody at the high schooler he do a nice release. 795 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: Anything I like, I'll screen record it. 796 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 5: I'll just look at it and I'll just try to 797 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 5: add it to my game and then just kenon like, 798 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 5: I'm always all right one on ones and now that 799 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 5: I'm here and I can ask us the iPad, I'm 800 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 5: going back watching his one on ones. Here I'm asking 801 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 5: my coach to put on a B film. Ab wasn't. 802 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 5: I mean, he was a good route runner. But as 803 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 5: far as crafting, it's like, you know, I'm looking anywhere 804 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 5: anywhere I can find it. You know, I'm scrim recording 805 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 5: and trying to add to my arsenal and if a 806 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 5: stick it does. 807 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: Describe what it's like in that room. It's a very 808 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: interesting route keen into the mix. You saw what Lad 809 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 3: did his rookie year last year and just his route 810 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 3: running ability. Yeah, Trey drafted high Quentin in year three. 811 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: What's it like kind of picking the brains of guys 812 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 3: that have done at really all different levels. 813 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like, like I said, I feel like 814 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 5: it's no sense of you know, pride or what's the word. Like, 815 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 5: nobody's too good to you know, talk and figure out 816 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 5: we can get better at And the funny thing is 817 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 5: we all so it's four of us in there, that's 818 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 5: class of twenty twenty, and everybody's on different years, which 819 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 5: is it's funny had the NFL work. 820 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: Somebody, somebody was like, Lad, get your young bull. I said, 821 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 2: I'm older than them last people, and it was like, 822 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: the NFL. Don't go off your age, you go off 823 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: years in the league. And I'm like, okay, I get that, 824 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, Lad, I get it. I get all right the. 825 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 5: Veat I'll be that. But the thing is, we all 826 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 5: graduated twenty twenty. Q's on year three, Lad on year two, 827 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 5: I'm on my first year, and traded on his first year. 828 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 5: They all classes twenty twenty, so I mean we're all 829 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 5: around the same age. We clicked and then, like you said, 830 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 5: you add a Vat guy in there, like like Kingan, 831 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure you know we all grew up watching 832 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 5: them and all studied this game at some point and 833 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,959 Speaker 5: definitely gonna take advantage of it. And like you say, Lab, 834 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 5: when I first got here, and watch how he stops. 835 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 5: I'm watching watching some of his tape durned indie indie drills, 836 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 5: and I like to think I stopped pretty good. And 837 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, if we both stop good, let 838 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 5: me just see what separates him from me. Let me 839 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 5: try to steal that or get an edge if I 840 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 5: like something he does a little better than me, or 841 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 5: why he does it better. I'm gonna look at it. 842 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask him. You know, no pride there. So 843 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, it's an open book. Everybody's 844 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 5: open book, and you know, we all trying to get better, 845 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 5: all trying to be the best. 846 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 4: You mentioned class of twenty twenty more high school, right, 847 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 4: yes you were, so you win to state championship like 848 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 4: that part of the country A lot of times it's 849 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: vat Tech, it's you know, I don't know if it's Uva, 850 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 4: but like you know, Maryland or kind of like in 851 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 4: that range. How you end up it Penn State? Like 852 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 4: who did they? Who else offered you? Like did you 853 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 4: think about staying closer to home and kind of what 854 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 4: what led the Penn State? 855 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? 856 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 5: So originally, and I gotta say it's it's funny you 857 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 5: say vo Tech and Ibould say, like v Tech vtail Yeah, yeah, yeah, 858 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 5: But so originally I wanted I kind of grew up 859 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 5: looking at Virginia Tech. My uncle went there, so I'm like, 860 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 5: all right, I went to a few games growing up. 861 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 5: I wanted to go to Jinia Tech, and uh, I 862 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 5: think what it was is I forgot who recruited me, Oh, 863 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 5: coach Jared Parker. So when he was originally at Virginia 864 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 5: Penn State, you know, I clicked with him. And before 865 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 5: I even before he got ended up at Penn State, 866 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 5: he was at West Virginia and I went to a 867 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 5: camp there. I'm sorry he was at. Uh, I've been 868 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 5: out of college a little minute. He was at I 869 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 5: want to say Kentucky or some duke. He was at 870 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 5: one of those schools, and I went to a camp 871 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 5: and I connected with him, and uh, I just wanted 872 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 5: to go to a big time program. 873 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: And he got the job at Penn State. 874 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 5: So I already had that relationship with him through the 875 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 5: recruiting process, and I ended up going there on a visit. 876 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 5: Went to a white out game with kJ and Himler 877 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 5: crib the slamt versus O State, and so you need it. Yeah, 878 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 5: I love playing in front of the big time crowds. 879 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 5: And that sold me. I mean it like it's no 880 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 5: less than one hundred six thousand each game, which is true. 881 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 5: So I'm like, man, I love being Beaver, and I 882 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 5: up and beaver with number one, just like kJ. So 883 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 5: I mean it was definitely a great experience. And then yeah, 884 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 5: I finished my career at Auburn. 885 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 3: So you mentioned Justin at the beginning of that, Chris, Sorry, yeah, please, 886 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 3: you can tell the humility of Dre that's what you 887 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 3: because you said. 888 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 4: My uncle his uncle's camp chancellor. 889 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, a fifth round pick to right, sir, Yeah, sir, 890 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 3: did James Madison recruit you? 891 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure they. 892 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 5: Tried you, that's right. I wouldn't say that. I want 893 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 5: to say that said. I've been on a cousin. I 894 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 5: forgot all my office honestly, I had about thirty five. 895 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 896 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good worked out alright. 897 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 898 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: So the quarterback here number ten. Uh have you ever 899 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 3: played with the quarterback like that? 900 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: And what is it like? 901 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 3: Ketching balls from him? Always kind of being ready because 902 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: he'll find you. 903 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been. I mean I like the thing. I mean, 904 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: I love it. 905 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 5: I love one of QB Like I've seen him make 906 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 5: a pass where like the receivers right here, the defenders 907 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 5: right on him, he put it right over the helmet, 908 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 5: like in stride, like the defender didn't have a clue 909 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 5: the ball was coming. I love it because I feel 910 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 5: like I'm always ready to catch the ball, like I 911 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 5: want the ball I want you to throw it to 912 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 5: me when the guy's on me, because you can be 913 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 5: covered and they still make a catch. And that's why 914 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 5: I like contest the catches. 915 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm my man. 916 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 5: So I love that he you know, he trusted guys 917 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 5: enough to do that, and I feel like I'm building 918 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 5: that trust with him. 919 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: I mean, i feel like, if you see me out. 920 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 5: There, I'm not saying it's one hundred percent, like all right, 921 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 5: Dre Callin's going, he gonna make this, I'm going, but 922 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 5: I'm trying to build that. I'm trying to get into 923 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 5: that point. But I felt like, you know, he's starting 924 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 5: to trust me a little more. 925 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: But it's great. 926 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I've never seen somebody a quarterback work as 927 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 5: hard as him. I mean, even over the break, he 928 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 5: was still in here. 929 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 2: I was here. 930 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 5: He was in here, and it was kind of emptying 931 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 5: here and you could just see him like doing abs 932 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 5: and we do when we're doing conditioning. I seen him 933 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 5: do the conditioning test and then run more sprints out 934 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 5: of the condition to test. When I ran my condition 935 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 5: the test, I was on my knees at the end 936 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 5: of it. I'm like, Yo, there's no way I can 937 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 5: go no more. So just seeing a level that he 938 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 5: pushes himself to, and uh, you wanted out to a quarterback. 939 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 5: You know he you know he got that grit to 940 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 5: on that fire, and uh, you want to get open 941 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 5: for a guy like that. 942 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: You know he wanted to catch the ball. You don't 943 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: want to drop it. 944 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 4: So when when did you know, Uh, I would love 945 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 4: to you know, the touchdown in the Hall of Fame game, 946 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 4: you're lined up. I think Boodle's playing press, man, I 947 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 4: think he's playing press. Yeah, So when did you know 948 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 4: did you know you had leverage before the snap? Did 949 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 4: you know you had him dusted after your release? Like 950 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 4: from that? When when that thing lines up? When do 951 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 4: you know I knew? 952 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: When did I know I was getting it? When? 953 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 4: Did Yeah? When did you know that this this guy's done? 954 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 5: So, I mean I left, I left the huddle, Trey said, 955 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 5: I need you. So in my head already, I'm like, 956 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 5: all right, I gotta get open. I'm getting open, right, 957 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 5: And uh made my move and like I said, a 958 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 5: lot of it is feel like I just was was 959 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 5: sliding to it outside and I just went made my 960 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 5: little move at the top, and I kind of knew 961 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 5: it was over when I mean I caught it and 962 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 5: I had my visit or field and I didn't see nobody. 963 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 5: All I seen was a touchdown, so I'm like, I'm 964 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 5: getting the down and I just felt a little clip 965 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 5: at the end, but on my arm right here hit 966 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 5: the little I flipped on purpose. I could have just 967 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 5: you know, failed any type of way hit a little 968 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 5: front flip. But yeah, once I caught the bar and 969 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 5: knew it was over. And I purposely did that because 970 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 5: I was into the boundary and I worked them outside 971 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 5: so when I catch it, I'm not too far as 972 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 5: close to the linebackers. So when I caught it on 973 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 5: my all right, it's gonna be a catching knife. And 974 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 5: that's like I played out caught it knife that immediately 975 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 5: on the Jets. And that's the thing you know, money 976 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 5: ever talking about. Okay, it's one thing to do in practice. 977 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 5: Can you translate it to the game. You did it immediately? 978 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 3: Another opportunity on Sunday against the Saints. Now that you 979 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 3: have a preseason game under your belt, Like, how are 980 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 3: you approaching Sunday knowing that you're still gonna get more opportunities. 981 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 5: Kind of like like every game, I mean, I do 982 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 5: my little journaling I talked to the man upstairs and 983 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 5: I just focused on, you know, the little details, and 984 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 5: I feel like it was a lot of stuff that 985 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 5: I could have got that can get better on. From 986 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 5: the last game. Everybody see the touchdown and the little 987 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 5: fade catch, but I also felt like it was a 988 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 5: few routes where I could have did stuff better here 989 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 5: as far as a block there. So just having those, 990 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 5: you know, things that I can get better on and 991 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 5: make sure, uh don't mess them up again in the 992 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 5: next game. I feel like to getting open part is 993 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 5: just a part of a receiver. I gotta get up 994 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 5: and I gotta gutch the ball, but just you know, 995 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 5: honing in on the little little details of the position, 996 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 5: you know, the stuff that the fans and stuff probably 997 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 5: don't see. Sure making sure you know clean on that. 998 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 4: When you mentioned both Ab and Keenan, you know there's 999 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 4: there're guys that can certainly play outside and are effective outside, 1000 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 4: but they do a lot of their work from the slot. 1001 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 4: Just kind of as far as your your college career, 1002 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 4: the way you you visualize yourself is it is it 1003 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 4: actually at z is. I'm sure it's all three, but 1004 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 4: what what did you always visualize yourself kind of doing 1005 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 4: playing where where Where did you see yourself lining up 1006 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 4: mostly in the NFL. 1007 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, like you said, it's kind of weird because 1008 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 5: I kind of played all positions throughout sohigh school I 1009 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 5: played the slot primarily, and then I went to Penn 1010 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 5: State played outside for three years than my last year 1011 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 5: moved around outside into the slot, and I always thought 1012 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 5: I was more of a slot. I'm like, all right, 1013 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 5: I'm quick, I'm a mismaster any safety linebacker. And I 1014 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 5: also got enough signs to go beat press on the outside. 1015 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 5: And then I went to Auburn and I only played outside. 1016 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 5: So I mean, like you said, I can play all three, 1017 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 5: but if I could, you know, all right, I definitely 1018 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 5: love doing a lot of working the slot as well, 1019 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 5: just because I feel like the slot allows you to 1020 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 5: be more savvying your routes, and that's something that I 1021 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 5: that's like my number one trait in my head. So 1022 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 5: the slots of the guys who do the choice routes 1023 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 5: and savvy enough to sit in this hole and know 1024 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 5: how to work behind his backer and read the defense 1025 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 5: on a run. I like doing stuff like that, but 1026 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 5: I don't mind going on the outside and being at 1027 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 5: backside go ball stop route because. 1028 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: At end of the day is one on one as well. 1029 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: So I like it. 1030 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 3: I like it all ye Drake last one for me. 1031 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 3: And when you get to the NFL, obviously everything's different. 1032 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 3: Training camp is different. A coach Harball training camp is 1033 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 3: probably different. What's the the maybe the thing that surprised 1034 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 3: you the most about being a charger specifically with Jim Harball. 1035 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: And you know, we always hear competitors welcome, especially training 1036 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 3: camp in competition is fierce really at all levels. 1037 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, I'm not gonna lie, I don't. 1038 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 5: I don't really got nothing that just took me by 1039 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 5: like total surprise. I mean, I feel like it's definitely 1040 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 5: easier than college camp. I mean in what ways, Like 1041 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 5: as far as the time that we hear so, I 1042 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 5: mean college camp you're waking up at six and you 1043 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 5: go on to eight like every day. Now it's it's 1044 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 5: probably not I don't even remember like when we put 1045 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 5: on past specifically, but I think it's when once you 1046 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 5: put on pass from like all right, you maybe go 1047 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 5: to the first few practices no pass, but once you 1048 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 5: put on pass past the rest of camp, uh, we 1049 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 5: we go. We go past pretty a good amount of 1050 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 5: times here, but it's just as far as the amount 1051 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 5: of time were in A it's not it's not too 1052 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 5: crazy that some guys say this, this camp is more 1053 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 5: easier than some other camps that they've been at as 1054 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 5: far as the time in the building, but as far 1055 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 5: as out there, like when when we on the field, 1056 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 5: we definitely compete into a high level and you know, 1057 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 5: making each other better. But it's not never really quitting 1058 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 5: by surprise, you know, I was, I was writing for this. 1059 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 4: He's been written. Yeah, all right, last one would get 1060 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 4: you out on an easy one. I think you've had 1061 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 4: some pretty good uniforms man in your in your career, 1062 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 4: the iconic Penn States, just the white Navies, no names, 1063 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 4: you know, as classics as it gets games there you 1064 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 4: go game you got Auburn with that iconic AU on 1065 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 4: the on the helmet, orange and blue. And now you 1066 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 4: got the arguably the best uniforms in in the NFL 1067 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: and the power Blues. Like so A, what's your favorite 1068 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 4: charger combo? Have you seen them all? And you have 1069 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 4: a favorite one and B of those three? Go ahead 1070 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 4: and just it's fine recommend order. 1071 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 5: Uh well, I feel like that's easy I'm putting, well, 1072 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 5: so the favorite one in La Yeah, the combo. It's 1073 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 5: it's so many different combos. I'm gonna definitely go with 1074 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 5: the ones we just wore. I feel like those are cold. 1075 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 5: Like the white with the blue pants with the blue 1076 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 5: socks that's never been worn before. Yeah, I know that 1077 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 5: that was That was that was pretty dope, and I 1078 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 5: feel like it was nice and clean, like I got 1079 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 5: this picture it's posted on Instagram, like it's the first 1080 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 5: picture when I'm like dipping somebody up after the touchdown, 1081 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 5: and I just felt like I just looked at real 1082 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 5: nice in it. I had the blue gloves, the blue bottoms, 1083 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 5: the white cleaves. 1084 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 2: It was clean. 1085 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 5: Ah, but I can't wait to throw on the Uh 1086 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 5: then we got the all gold like that kind of 1087 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 5: color rush, you know, I can't wait to throw on that. 1088 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 5: Like I said, we got we got so many the navies, 1089 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 5: We got so many different colors. 1090 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: Herd to beat that Penn State one though. 1091 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 2: Now. Uh So if I rank the uniforms or I'm 1092 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 2: not gonna lie l a. 1093 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 4: Uh, Auburn's underrated. Man. That blue top, white pant combo 1094 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: with the orange like it, that's a that's a good Uni. 1095 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 5: But the Pen State is it is underrated to but 1096 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 5: I do, I do like the name on the back, 1097 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go l a Auburn, 1098 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 5: Penn State. But Penn State and Auburn both only had two, 1099 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 5: Like we didn't have too many jerseys Oregon. Yeah no, 1100 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 5: it was only like a Penn State away. Your word, 1101 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 5: the white on white home you were the blue on 1102 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 5: white Auburn the same thing, blue on white. 1103 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 4: White on those all whites are pretty sweet. 1104 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but can't right there. 1105 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: He's gonna get you fresh all year. 1106 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 1107 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: Look for him, smile. I got you all right, Hey, Drey. 1108 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 2: Lambert k Yes, sir, Lambo Lambo got a stick, we 1109 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 2: can make that. 1110 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: We could do Lambo Ladd and Lambo KALs. So I 1111 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: don't know, j that's on you. 1112 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 4: You you have to Lambo Lamb get a touchdown in 1113 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 4: the game on Sunday and I'll call you Lamba. 1114 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1115 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 4: I think Lambo and Lambo. 1116 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 5: I think it's gotta be Lambo because like I don't 1117 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 5: got like a when you go l l like Lambo lad, 1118 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 5: that goes off smooth like it's not. 1119 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 1: It's just gotta be Lambo. 1120 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 2: Its gotta be Lambo or Dre Lambeau or like Kay Lambo. 1121 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 2: I can get creative with it. 1122 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: Touchdown, figure it out. 1123 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: We'll do a Dre. 1124 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 3: We appreciate you, man, I appreciate good luck on Sunday 1125 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,720 Speaker 3: and we'll talk to you guys next week for money. 1126 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 2: I'm Chris and Drake has been both up