1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: All right, third hour of Clay and Buck Hicks off 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: right now. Thanks for being here with us eight hundred 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: two A two two eight two on those phone lines. 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: Get some of your calls in the back of this hour. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: We want to talk about what happened at the White 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: House with the Pride celebration and Clay at this is 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: going to go into this is going to be something 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: that's in your wheelhouse to analyze. We'll discuss what what 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: happened there because there was somebody who showed uh their 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: their boobs outside of the White House at a Pride 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: celebration and took a photo of it standing outside of the 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: White House at an event where the our families, there 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: were children present. A trans influencer. We'll get we'll get 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: to that in a second, but first I thought this 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: was just interesting. 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: People often. 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Try to get a census, so when we talk about 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: the establishment GOP or the Unit Party controlled opposition, these 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: are terms that will come across a lot. Sometimes we'll 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: use them, but generally this is something you'll see talked 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: about online and a lot of people in the GOP 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: base people who are based or who know what time 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: it is, or who understand what is at stake in 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: the country right now and what the communists want to 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: do to it, also known as Democrats. They get annoyed 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: because they see things like this. Here is you all 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: remember Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan was Speaker of the House. 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: He was Mitt Romney's running mate. He debated Joe Biden 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: if you recall Clay and the VP debate, which was interesting, 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: and when he was running in twenty twelve, and at 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: a time when it seems, on the one hand, we 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: have trends influencers flashing their boobs in front of the 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: White House, and there's all this enormous push for trans 36 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: issues all throughout and we all know we talk about 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: all the time. Here's that Paul ryans as a GOP 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: should be focused on play twenty eight. 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: Can I get your thoughts on that movement quickly? I 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 4: know we have to go. But Republican lawmakers around the 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: country are pushing legislation when it comes to banning books. 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: It could be trans riots, call it anti Woker, however 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: you want to label it, is that a good approach, 44 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: a good strategy or football fan, is that the way 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: you should approach. 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a cultural work guy. 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 5: I think it's really polarizing look on some of these 48 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: issues outside with the anti woke crowd. But to me, 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 5: I'm worried about a deck crisis. I'm worried about the 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: future of our country in China. There are big policy 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 5: problems that we need to tackle if we want to 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 5: have a great twenty first century for this country. My 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 5: work at AEI notre to Am and my Poverty Foundation 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 5: is all about poverty upper mobility. What I'm worry about 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: are the big policy challenges that are going unresolved or 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 5: made worse by Joe Biden. So that's why i want 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 5: to win this election. 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: Okay, can I just call you a couple of I 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: want your reaction to this. But first off, whenever someone 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: says that they're if you are a Republican and you 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: are in this fight and you understand the stakes, when 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: someone says there are books being banned, you have to 63 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: say that is a lie, That is an obvious lie, 64 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: that is not reality. A kindergartener not getting a book 65 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: with pornography in it in his school curriculum is not 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: a book ban, all right, anymore than am I banned 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: from The New York Times. I'm not banned. They just 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: choose not to publish my editorials all the time. Clay, 69 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: But are are we banned? Why don't they just run 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: our transcripts? Are we banned? It's not a ban? And 71 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: then beyond that, when he says I'm not a culture 72 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: war guy, what is somebody? What does a Republican think? 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: Where Republican think is left? If we continue to lose 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: on primary culture war issues like these things are all 75 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: tied together. The notion that we're just going to tackle 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: the debt crisis, this can be super fired up. 77 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: It gets me super fired up. And I think ultimately 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: there are two ways to think about politicians in general. 79 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Some politicians are almost exclusively story people. I'll give you 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: an example. Tim Scott right now is a story politician. 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: His story is I grew up poor in South Carolina 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: and I have bootstrapped my way up to becoming a 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: United States Senator. And I feel like my story is 84 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: representative of the American dream. Okay, and I'm just paraphrasing. 85 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: And then there are candidates who are extreme policy guys. Right, 86 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: an extreme policy candidate would have been for instance, Mike Pompeo. 87 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Mike Pompeo would have come in and he would have said, 88 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: here's the policies that I'm going to put in place. 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: I would say Ron DeSantis right now is more of 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: a policy candidate than he is a story candidate. Right, 91 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: He'll tell you he put out today. Hey, here's how 92 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: I would fix the Department of Justice, and here's how 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: I would remedy the issues the Attorney General. All those 94 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: things very policy. The most successful candidates, and Paul Ryan 95 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: is a policy candidate, right. The most successful candidates are 96 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: able to twin story and policy, and that's how you win. 97 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: When you say I'm not going to get involved in 98 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: cultural issues, you are basically saying I'm a big, fat loser, 99 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: and I have no respect for anyone who tries to 100 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: do that, because what they're trying to say then is 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: I want everybody to really like me when I walk 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: into a New York City cocktail party, because I don't 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: want them to think I'm anti trans because I'm focused 104 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: on whether a dude with a penis can become a 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: women's champion. That's kind of icky to me. I don't 106 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: really want to talk about that. I want to tell 107 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: you why the corporate tax rate needs to be twenty 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: four percent instead of twenty nine percent. You're a loser. 109 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna get your ass kicked. Now. I love policy guys. 110 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: If Paul Ryan wants to come in and be my 111 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: Treasury secretary and go with all the nerds on Wall 112 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Street and argue about what tax policy numbers should be, 113 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: I have no issue with them at all. But if 114 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: you put a policy guy out there, he gets run over. 115 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Like he's standing in front of a bulldozer or a tank. 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: He gets flattened. That's how you lose. That's meant Romney. 117 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: Now. I actually think that this is helpful to Trump 118 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: in some ways because when Paul Ryan says, I'm not 119 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: a culture war guy, Let's talk about the debt and poverty, 120 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: which sounds like he's It sounds like something you would 121 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 2: hear from a think tank scholar who has no interest 122 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: in doing anything other than collecting the checks from his 123 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: sinecure and hiding right like, has no interest in actually 124 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: engaging YEA in the debates that matter for the country. 125 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: But then he also went on to say that we 126 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: will win as long as Trump is not the nominee. 127 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: Play twenty two. 128 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 5: He's got a great core support in a primary. That 129 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 5: is what you build off of, and so it does matter. 130 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 5: But my point is, I think the electability argument is 131 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 5: going to become more salient with this indictment. 132 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: And whatever happens in the. 133 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 5: Future, all the exhaustion of all the Trump baggage is 134 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: going to make it easier now. I think to make 135 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: the argument to his core supporters he's not electable. 136 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: He's going to cost us the Senate again, he's going 137 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: to cost us more. 138 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 5: House, He'll cost us the White House, and we want 139 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: to win, and we do want to win. So go 140 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 5: look at what are these other great conservatives that are 141 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 5: in the race who don't have all this baggage. I 142 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: think if we nominate Himity not named Donald Trump, we're 143 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 5: going to be Joe Biden. 144 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: We nominated anyone not named Trump. 145 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: Clay, I think that Paul Ryan attacking Donald Trump is 146 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: the best advertisement for Donald Trump. 147 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: This is my concern too. There are other people who 148 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: could make this case and maybe it would resonate in 149 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: some ways. But Paul Ryan saying we're going to tackle 150 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: the debt and we're going to focus on what is 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: that focus on China? 152 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 153 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: I think this is really an easy thing for people 154 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: to sometimes pivot to, Yeah, we're just gonna focus on China, 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: or we're not gonna buy Chinese stuff anymore. Think's gonna 156 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: get a lot more expensive for people in this country, Like, well, 157 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: what does that really even involve other than talking tough 158 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: about Taiwan defense once a year or something. 159 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And to me, all these things are interconnected, right, 160 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: because you can't win unless you can point two issues. 161 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: We just had Nancy Mason, and I thought she was 162 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: really good, right. She used to be a waffle house waitress, 163 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: and she was talking about how literally the thing that 164 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: you have to do when you're a waffle house waitress 165 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: is talk to people from all different backgrounds the way 166 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: that you cut through noise. And I can't believe, Like 167 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: I can't believe. I just keep having to slam this 168 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: home over and over again because people like Paul Ryan 169 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: just don't get it. People understand when there is a 170 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: dude who is six foot three and he's wearing a 171 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: bathing suit where you can tell he has a penis, 172 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: and he becomes a women's champion and they raise his hand, 173 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: they recognize viscerally Buck, something is wrong right, And they 174 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: may not have the time because they got kids or 175 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: they got grandkids and they're running around busy all day long. 176 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: But it cuts through the noise and they're like, that's bs. 177 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: I don't know everything that I think about. I'm talking 178 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: like i'm these people. I don't know everything that I 179 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: think about tax policy, and I don't know everything that 180 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: I think about what my third grader should be getting 181 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: taught in school. But I know a dude, a man 182 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: with a penis is not the greatest women's athlete of 183 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: all time. So if you're not willing to have that fight, Buck, 184 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: then you aren't connecting with the people who are going 185 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: to make decisions in who's elected. 186 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: It also runs away from something that's clearly very important 187 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: to the Biden White House and to the Democrat Party overall, 188 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: a culture war. It's not like this is a one 189 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 2: way fight. Correct If anything. 190 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: You don't if you get slapped in the face over 191 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: and over and over again and just pretend it isn't happening, 192 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: you're a wimp, and you get your ass kicked. 193 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: And and what happens is what we've seen now, I 194 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: mean the Biden Whitehouse, they had a an lgbt Q 195 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: plus at some level too. Having to just say an 196 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: acronym that long feels like it feels like I'm being serious. 197 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: It feels like a concession, like how many more letters 198 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: can we put on there? And oh, if you forget 199 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: a letter, you're being non inclusive, like can we just 200 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: come up with an acronym? Is supposed to make it easier, 201 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: not harder. That's the purpose of an acronym. You know, 202 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: I need to come up with a name for this 203 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: that makes sense that anyway. 204 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 3: But the the the Biden Whitehouse invited. 205 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: This Rose Montoya, who is a man that has grown 206 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: out hair and you know changed and gotten you know, 207 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: gotten breast augmentation, so has you know, fake breast and 208 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: as a man with with fake boobs who was standing 209 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 2: outside the White House and on video in front of 210 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: a Biden hosted event, decided to he just this guy 211 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: just pulls out his fake boobs and makes a video 212 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: of it and is like, yay Pride Month or something. 213 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. And now you could say, oh, this is just 214 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: one person, but I mean, this. 215 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: Is the These are the kind of people that the 216 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: Biden White House is inviting to celebrate this isn't just 217 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: a random person. This is an influencer, a person who's 218 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: meant to tell all the tell all his followers about 219 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: how great Joe Biden is and all the rest of it. Right, 220 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: but these are this is the mentality. 221 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: Who does that? 222 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: Can you imagine a conservative influencer under the you know, 223 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: under any Republican president shows up and is and is 224 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: having First of all, it's not even her boobs, it's 225 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: his boobs. 226 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: The whole thing is crazy. 227 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 3: And now the Biden. 228 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: White House but it's like, oh, you're being too harsh. 229 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: Biden White House has condemned this. This behavior is inappropriate 230 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: and disrespectful for an event at the White House, according 231 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: to a spokesman, and is not reflective of the event 232 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: we hosted to celebrate lgbtq I plus families or the 233 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: other guests. There were kids there. 234 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it actually is reflective. 235 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Buck. 236 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: And this goes to Will say, well, I don't know 237 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: why you're focused on trans drag shows. 238 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: Well, because kids are going and because Biden's focused on 239 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: trans all this stuff. 240 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: I get this. This is the response to Paul Ryan. 241 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: He would say, well, I don't really care about trans directions, Okay, 242 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: would you care. And this is the argument that, by 243 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: the way, just steal this from me and take it and. 244 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: Run with it. 245 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: If you took buck, you don't have kids yet, I've 246 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: got kids. If I took my eight year old to 247 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: a strip club. If I took my eight year old 248 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: to a strip club, I would probably get charged with 249 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: a crime, justifiably. Right there are men out there listening 250 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: right now who have heard stories about dads who go 251 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: to strip clubs and leave their kids in the car 252 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: in the parking lot. This happens every now and then, 253 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: right dad goes into the strip club. Why does he 254 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: leave his kid in the parking lot because the kid 255 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: can't go into the strip club. Dad's not making good 256 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: decisions when he leaves his kid in the parking lot. 257 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: But we understand that children do not belong at strip clubs. 258 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: Why do children belong at strip shows when men are 259 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: dressed up pretending to be women like this is not 260 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: a complicated situation. And there are a lot of women 261 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: out there that are worried. These wine moms, they're worried 262 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: that they're not going to be inclusive enough. So they've 263 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: got their kids prancing around putting dollar bills in thongs 264 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: of dudes pretending to be chicks like this is weird. 265 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: Men wouldn't do this. Men don't do this right. Men 266 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: don't take their kids to strip shows because we know 267 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: how inappropriate that is, because it's sexualizing children. What are 268 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: these moms thinking? And what of the Paul Ryan's of 269 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: the world thinking. We say, I don't really want to 270 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: get involved in this. I just want to talk about 271 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: what the corporate tax rate is. You're a loser. You're 272 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: gonna get your ass kicked, just like you did in 273 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. 274 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: In case anyone was wondering what Clay thinks about that. 275 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: Gun owners, gun owners, let's talk for a second here, 276 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: all right, Come on over. Treat yourself to a new 277 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: training of device, my friends, that will improve your skills 278 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: and sharpen your aim. It's called the Mantis X. It's 279 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: a great tool to have at home or out of 280 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: the range. 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By the way, 299 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: a couple of things went downstairs. Buck, my nanny said, 300 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: you're totally right about walking on treadmills. She's also eight 301 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: and a half months pregnant. She says she does it 302 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: all the time. So there you go, you and the 303 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: eight and a half month pregnant women. 304 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: I think I think you're cherry picking your data here 305 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: a little bit buddy, I think you're cherry picking the 306 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: data on this one second part on this some of 307 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: you listen to me talking about Paul Ryan. I get 308 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: so fired up about these guys, these holier than now guys, 309 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: because I saw them so much in sports, and I 310 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: saw how sports was getting destroyed if you didn't speak out, 311 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: because people would say, I don't know why you care 312 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: if somebody doesn't want to stand for the national anthem. 313 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't know why you care if they put Black 314 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: Lives matter on the basketball court. I don't know why 315 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: you care if they put I can't breathe on the 316 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: back of a basketball jersey instead of their actual names. 317 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: Well I can, because it's ridiculous culture war politics. 318 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Infused in sports. And you're telling me to just constantly 319 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: get slapped in the face and just pretend I'm not 320 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: getting slapped in the face and focus on other things. 321 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: Just watch the game. You don't have to pay attention 322 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: to what no. I want the game to stand on 323 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: its own, and so to me, this is the question, right, 324 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: And I think the Paul Ryans of the world will 325 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: just stand there and get punched in the face again 326 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: and again, and they'll say the tax rate should be 327 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty four percent, and they're like, hey, we think that 328 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: your fourteen year old daughter should get her boobs chopped 329 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: off as she decides you're a boy, and you're like, 330 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: the tax rate should be twenty four percent. No, you 331 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: have to fight these battles or you get your ass kicked. 332 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Right and wrong matters. 333 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Romney Republicanism is just heading to left 334 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: wing dystopia, you know, five miles an hour slower than 335 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: you get there otherwise. I mean, it's not it isn't 336 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: really opposition at all. And this is why when there 337 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: is such a thing as controlled opposition, there is such 338 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: a thing as people who I think are unhelpful to 339 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: the cause of Like what are you Here's the real question, 340 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: the fundamental question. What are you conserving? If you're Paul 341 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: Ryan conserving what exactly? Yeah, you know, and his whole thing, 342 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: We're going to tackle the debt, okay, by lowering the 343 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: rate of the increase in spending, and then we're going 344 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: to take a little victory lap for ourselves. It's not 345 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: gonna work, it's not gonna do anything. So and then 346 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: and then the whole confronting China thing. I mean, that's 347 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: oh Yeah, that's really that takes a lot of bravery. 348 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: What does that even mean? 349 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: And I just I'm so sick of it, right, and 350 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: I think we need fighters. And I'm so sick of 351 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: people who go on and just accept the falsehood of 352 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: questions like he did, and then apologize. Stop apologizing, Stop 353 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: apologizing for believing in American exceptionalism and excellence and also 354 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: basic human sanity. Just stop throw a punch for once. 355 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: If you or someone you know has ever been the 356 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: victim of online identity theft, you know how difficult it 357 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: can be to fix. Online identity theft is a silent crime. 358 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: You have zero idea when your info is suddenly in 359 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: the hands of a cyber thief. 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It's great to be with you. 378 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: So let's start, if we could, with your analysis of 379 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: the situation. Look, I understand that you're running your own 380 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: campaign and you want to talk about your own issues. 381 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: We're going to ask you about some of your policies 382 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: and what you'd want to do for the country. But 383 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: today is a particular day. Your chief rival in the primary, 384 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: the guy who's leading in the polls right now, is 385 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: before or is about to be before a judge down 386 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: here in Florida. What do you make of the situation 387 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump and would you commit to pardoning him 388 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: if it came to it. If you were able to 389 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: win the race. 390 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I had a great relation, working 391 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 6: relationship with President Trump, and you know, what's happening is unfortunate. 392 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 6: I think the Justice Department has handled this whole thing terribly. 393 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 6: I mean, you can't have one standard for Democrats like 394 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 6: Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and then another standard for 395 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 6: Republicans like Donald Trump. And we're seeing that again, and 396 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 6: we're seeing that again with the Biden robbery recordings that 397 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 6: have come to light. I mean, the country should never 398 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 6: stand for that, and I think that we should all 399 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 6: speak up and we have to be loud about that. 400 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 6: Having said that, if the claims in the indictment are true, 401 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 6: if they're true, then Trump was incredibly reckless with our 402 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 6: national security and that's not okay. So now if you've 403 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 6: got the question of a pardon, I mean, that's a 404 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 6: very different question. I'm not going to presume President Trump's guilt. 405 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 6: I think we all need to let this trial play out. 406 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 6: We need to see, you know, exactly what happens. But 407 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 6: you know, when you look at a pardon, the issue 408 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 6: is less about guilt and more about what's good for 409 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 6: the country. And I think it would be terrible for 410 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 6: the country to have a former president in prison for 411 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 6: years because of a document's case. That's something you've seen 412 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 6: in a third world country. I saw that as the 413 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 6: United Nations, So I would be inclined in favor of 414 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 6: a pardon. But I think it's really premature at this 415 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 6: point when he's not even been convicted of anything. 416 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley with US now, you're obviously running for president. 417 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: Two leading candidates right now are Donald Trump. We just 418 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: ask you about Trump as he gets ready for the 419 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: indictment in Florida and Ron DeSantis. You have aggressively attacked 420 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis for his response on Disney. What has he 421 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: gotten wrong there? What would you have done differently? 422 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, you know I call people out 423 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 6: whenever I see anything. I was a governor and you know, 424 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 6: certainly we had to work with a lot of different companies. 425 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 6: South Carolina is not a woke state, but you know 426 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 6: you had these things Disney. The biggest issue. Look, Ron 427 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 6: can do whatever he wants, he is the governor. But 428 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 6: the biggest issue with this is Disney just didn't become 429 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 6: woke overnight. 430 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 3: They've been woke. 431 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 6: For a long time. I remember when they hit President 432 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 6: Trump on immigration. So this is nothing new. All I'm 433 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 6: saying is, look, if you've gone and given Disney that 434 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 6: the largest corporate subsidies in Florida history, If you've gone 435 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 6: and done all of these things for Disney and they 436 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: are your largest employer, I just don't think you need 437 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 6: to get into this vendetta politics where you're, you know, 438 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 6: using taxpayer dollars for lawsuits. That's not what I would do. 439 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 6: What I would do is call them out on what 440 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 6: you need to call them out on. But just because 441 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 6: they hit you doesn't mean you have to go into 442 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 6: an all out war with them. I mean, these companies 443 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 6: tend to do that. We're seeing more and more wote companies. 444 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 6: What we should do is keep pushing policy that we 445 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: know is right for our people and then let the 446 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 6: companies go and hurt themselves in the way that they 447 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 6: criticize things. But I just think that back and forth 448 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 6: is unfortunate for the people of Florida. But he's got 449 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 6: a decision to make. I mean, I'm much rather talk 450 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 6: about the fact that you know, we're thirty one trillion 451 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 6: dollars in debt, and you know he voted to raise 452 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 6: the debt. Feeling back in twenty eighteen, and you know, 453 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 6: now we're sitting in a big mess when it comes 454 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 6: to our debt. I think we've got to take care 455 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 6: of that. 456 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: Ambassador Haley, on the issue of Trump, you mentioned a 457 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: moment ago that you always had a very good relationship 458 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: with them. You obviously were the US ambassadors the United 459 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: Nations during Trump's first term. You know, you're running for president. 460 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: So what would be different about a Haley presidency than 461 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: a Trump second term? What would you do better or 462 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: what would you do differently? 463 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 6: Well, I've been a two term governor that took a 464 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 6: double digit unemployment state and turned it into an economic powerhouse. 465 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 6: I was at the UN. I didn't deal with one country. 466 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 6: I dealt with one hundred and ninety three. I mean, 467 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 6: President Trump and I differ on something. You know, he 468 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 6: thinks January sixth was a beautiful day. I think it 469 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: was a terrible day. You know, he thinks we should 470 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: stay neutral on the war with Ukraine and Russia. I 471 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 6: think a win for Ukraine is good for America's national security. 472 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 6: You know, he had no problem with the spending and 473 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 6: you know the increase in the debt that we had, 474 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 6: and I as an accountant. I think that our kids 475 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 6: are never going to forgive us for this if we 476 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 6: don't start seriously cutting back on the spending, stopping the borrowing, 477 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 6: and making sure we go back to pre COVID levels. 478 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: Talking to former Ambassador and Governor Nikki Haley Joe Biden, 479 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: it appears, I think, to almost every single person listening 480 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: to us right now, a lot of Democrats, Republicans, and 481 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: independents all overwhelmingly agree. Isn't physically or mentally capable of 482 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: being president? Should he be the Democrat nominee in twenty 483 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: twenty four in your opinion, Nikki? And if he is, 484 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: do you think that he's going to be able to 485 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: finish his term in office? 486 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: No, and I don't. I think this is a shadow 487 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 6: campaign for Kamala Harris. I mean, I when I look 488 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 6: at it, that's who I'm running against, is Kamala Harris. 489 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 6: Because we can't look at Biden and see the decline 490 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 6: that he's had in the last couple of years and 491 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 6: honestly think that he's going to make it as president 492 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 6: till eighty six years old. I think that this is 493 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 6: very much they're going to keep him from debating in primary. 494 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 6: They're going to get him to be the nominee. We 495 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 6: don't know if he's going to actually make it to 496 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 6: the election. If he does make it to the election, 497 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 6: I don't think he stays long as president, and so 498 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: I think, you know, I will continue to say a 499 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 6: vote for President Biden is a vote for President Harris. 500 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 6: And I think that's also why you're sting them go 501 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 6: and spend all this money trying to change her profile 502 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 6: and make her look better than what she is. It 503 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 6: is because I think that she is going to be 504 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 6: eventually either the nominee or the president if it continues 505 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 6: going down the path where Biden wins. And that's exactly 506 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 6: why we need to be very focused and understand that 507 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 6: we've got to have a new generational leader. We cannot 508 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 6: lose this election again. We can't afford to lose the 509 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 6: general election and give Biden and Kamala four years because 510 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 6: I don't think America would recover from that. 511 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: One of the big questions we've had on this show 512 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: is Trump says that twenty twenty was a stolen election, 513 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: that it was rigged. If Democrats were willing to steal 514 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: and rig twenty twenty, why would they not do the 515 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: same thing in twenty twenty four. How do you look 516 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: at discussing twenty twenty not only retrospectively, but also prospectively 517 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: as it pertains to twenty twenty four. 518 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 6: I think there were a lot of lessons that we 519 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 6: should take from twenty twenty. I mean, voter integrity is everything. 520 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 6: If you know, if you have people who don't trust 521 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 6: the election process, I mean, that can be the weakening 522 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 6: point of any country. And so it's really important that 523 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 6: we have integrity. I as governor, passed voter ID in 524 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 6: South Carolina, and I would vilifyed for it, but I said, 525 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 6: if you've got to show picture ID to buy suit 526 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 6: of that, if you've got to show pictrity to get 527 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 6: on a plane, you should have to show pictriarty to 528 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 6: protect the integrity of the election process. What we saw 529 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 6: happen during COVID was a lot of spending of the rules, 530 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 6: and you saw secretaries of state do things without their 531 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 6: state legislatures. We saw mail out balloting, We saw some 532 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 6: inconsistencies there. And you know, while I don't think that 533 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 6: changed the results of the elections, I think that should 534 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 6: be a wake up call to every American that we 535 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 6: need to do everything we can to have election integrity. 536 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 6: So I think every state in the country should at 537 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 6: least have to do voter IDs. I think we should 538 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 6: make sure that when they're absentee ballots or any early voting, 539 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: we should always have to verify signatures and make sure 540 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 6: they are who they are. I think when ballots come in, 541 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 6: they should be counted at the time, and everybody should 542 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 6: get the results of the election on election Dage shouldn't 543 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 6: have this going two weeks out, and so I don't 544 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 6: think we should stop on fighting for election integrity. I 545 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 6: think we still have a few states that are concerning 546 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 6: and I think that we have to be conscious about that. 547 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 6: And I think we also have to understand that whatever 548 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 6: the Democrats are doing and the ways they go to 549 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 6: get people to vote, Republicans need to do the same thing. 550 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 6: It's about getting as many of our people out to 551 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 6: vote as possible, and we've got to make sure that 552 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 6: we continue to push for voter integrity in the process. 553 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: Just have one more for you, Ambassador Haley. We're speaking 554 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 2: to Ambassadornikki Haley. She's running for the Republican nomination. What 555 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: does a Haley what would a Haley presidency look like? 556 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: With regard to both border security and the tens of 557 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: millions of illegal immigrants who are currently in the United States. 558 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: What would your approach be, What would your policy be? 559 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I went four hundred miles down 560 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 6: that border, and you are not ready for what I saw. 561 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 6: It is unthinkable what those ranchers go through when they 562 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 6: get up in the morning and have to see if 563 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 6: someone died while they crossed the fence, or pick up 564 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 6: whatever little kids were behind. And when I talked to sheriffs, 565 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 6: they sat there and said they round up the legal 566 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 6: immigrants before seven am, turn them over to border patrol. 567 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 6: Border patrol releases them until their court date years from now. 568 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 6: And when I talked to border patrol and ask them 569 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 6: about their jobs, they said, you want to know what 570 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 6: we do. We're glorified babysitters. They don't let us. 571 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 4: Do our jobs. 572 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 6: When I was governor in South Carolina, I passed one 573 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 6: of the toughest illegal immigration laws in the country. We 574 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 6: did a mandatory everified program that required all of our 575 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 6: businesses to prove who they were hiring work here legally 576 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 6: in this country. I would do a national e verified 577 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 6: program across the country. I would defund sanctuary cities. I 578 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 6: would go back to remain in Mexico, because no one 579 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 6: wants to remain in Mexico. We'd pulled back on the 580 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 6: provisions of Title forty two. Instead of eighty seven thousand 581 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 6: ARS agents going after middle of May, so we put 582 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 6: twenty five thousand Border Patrol and ICE agents on the ground, 583 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 6: and instead of catching release, we would go to catch 584 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 6: and deport. We've got to stop the bleeding. We've got 585 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 6: to shut down our borders. We can't have this continue 586 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: to happen. Five million illegal immigrants have crossed the border. 587 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 6: It's unthinkable. 588 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley, Ambassador and Governor. We appreciate you. Look forward 589 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: to talking to you again soon. 590 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 6: Thanks gun to Nicki Haley dot com. 591 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate that tunnel. The Towers Foundation. We know how important 592 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: they have been in everything that they have done. I 593 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: saw buck really great footage of their golf tournament this 594 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: past weekend. It was fantastic, really really cool. But I 595 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: want to tell you now about computer's breaking. They fail. 596 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: They crash. As much as we rely on them to 597 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: store important documents like my book manuscript or save priceless photos, 598 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: they break down. In fact, you can guarantee it. 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On a show where we talk 626 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: about everything? The walking on treadmills community has their pitchforks 627 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: out for me. Buck, I am right now being at They. 628 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: Are slowly surrounding you, sir. 629 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: Very slow moving. It's a very slow moving pitchfork crowd. 630 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: The mob is not If I run, they will never 631 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: catch me. So that there is I can't escape them. 632 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: Earlier in the show, buck Sexton said that he walks 633 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: on a. 634 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: Treadmill elevated elevated walking on a treadmill elevated walking. 635 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean like you're on a tightrope. That means 636 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: that you incline the treadmill. Yes, and I just I 637 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get past the idea of someone who is relatively 638 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: young walking on a treadmill. I am right now. I 639 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: mean there are slings and arrows coming in every direction 640 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: at me over my treadmill position. So let me just 641 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: be clear, I take back nothing. I I refuse to 642 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: apologize to you treadmill people at all. You could put 643 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: on your tennis shoes and your sweatsuits and your headbands, 644 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: and you can slowly amble your way after me as 645 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: much as you would like. 646 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: So if you play, is gonna sit there eating his 647 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: Bolooney sandwich and drinking his Mountain dew on the couch 648 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: watching sports while all of us are kidding our heart 649 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: our heart rate up to one hundred and thirty beats 650 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: a minute, thank you. 651 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: There's no way you can get your heart rate up 652 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: to one hundred and thirty beats a minute on the 653 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: treadmill on the true I mean you mean walking at 654 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: an incline on the treadmill. Yes, look I'm at speed walking. 655 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: Speed walk. 656 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: If you're gonna speed walk, why wouldn't you just run? 657 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not about the joint health 658 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: I'll have every day. I'm very pro walking outdoors. You know, 659 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: if you want to walk outdoors, it's like there's ice 660 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: on the you know what I've thought about before. By 661 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: the way, now now I'm gonna be sound like a 662 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: huge hypocrit. I'm gonna sound like a democrat. I even 663 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: explored the idea. Have you heard about these uh uh 664 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: like treadmills where people walk on them at their desks 665 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: to get exercise. 666 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: Have you yes, standing desk treadmill? Sure? 667 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: I think in my new house, in the new studio 668 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: that I'm building. After all my ridicule of you for walk, 669 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: I can't you or you are being exposed, sir. I 670 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: am thinking that I might have a walking desk treadmill 671 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: where I could have a mic nobody would know that 672 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm walking. The one thing is we're on the air 673 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: for three hours every day. It seems like it could 674 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: be super efficient to just have a regular walk while 675 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm on the air in the conversation. So they have 676 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: these desks for people who don't know. The standing desk 677 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: I think is stupid, right, like whatever? 678 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but can I can I tell you Clay that 679 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: your whole idea here is very sound. Except while the 680 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 2: rest of us in the walk brigade would be very 681 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: capable of this, you sir, are gonna have to spend 682 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: some time on a treadmill, not on the air, so 683 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: you're not out of breath and heaving when we're trying 684 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 2: to talk about the communist destroying the country, So. 685 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: You're gonna be doing some treadmill walking, sir. That's all time, 686 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: very anti running, Buck. I don't know if I mentioned this. 687 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: I did a half marathon a decade ago. My wife 688 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: was like, hey, let's run a half marathon. You'll feel 689 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: so good when you finish. And then she was pregnant. 690 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: Like a month into our training, she found out she 691 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: was pregnant with our second son, and so I did 692 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: the half marathon myself. People are like, you gotta feel 693 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: so good when you finish that thirteen point one miles. 694 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: There's a photo of me crossing the finish line and 695 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: I look thoroughly disgusted. I have not run one mile, Buck, 696 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: since I did the half marathon, like twelve years ago. 697 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: I hate running. I think it's the most miserable thing 698 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: on the planet. I'm pro walking. I actually use the 699 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: the uh, but but I like the elliptical. I'm surprised 700 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: you wouldn't use the elliptical. It's the mix between the 701 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: treadmill and the running. You got the elliptical and you 702 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: can ellipticize your way. 703 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: Don't don't try to pit us treadmill walkers against our 704 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 2: elliptical cousins. 705 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 3: I see what you're trying to do. I see this pivot. 706 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 3: We respect all the Jim goers. 707 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: Nobody loves ellipticals more than me. You just remember all that. 708 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow.