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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts and opinions

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Speaker 1: subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For

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Speaker 1: almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey to

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Speaker 1: prove the existence of life after death. On each episode,

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Speaker 1: will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved

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Speaker 1: ones have survived physical and so will we welcome to

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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. Often when we hear stories of

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Speaker 1: near death experiences, we meet someone who is an author

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Speaker 1: and it's really out there sharing their message. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: not so with our guest today. Josh Lucian is the

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Speaker 1: owner of Elegant Flooring in Roanoke, Virginia. He found me

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Speaker 1: on Facebook and just felt this gentle nudge at his

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Speaker 1: when we talk to Josh, you'll notice that he seems

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Speaker 1: very wise for a young man, and he's also got

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Speaker 1: nature and how powerful our thoughts are. So welcome, Josh, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here, and I love your

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Speaker 1: to be here. Oh, thank you very much. You know,

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Speaker 1: each episode Real we enlivens me and I can talk

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Speaker 1: about what I'm passionate about, and it also helps me

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Speaker 1: remember the big picture, because it's very easy for us

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Speaker 1: to be here, and I'm happy you were here. So, Josh,

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Speaker 1: you were telling me before that you got some nudges

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Speaker 1: us a little bit about you and what you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've run a construction company. We focus on bathroom and

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Speaker 1: I have allows me to meet a ton of different

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're focusing on what's gone. You're not

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Speaker 1: It's very much still there with the power of thought.

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Speaker 1: been looking for answers for this, and I've been reading

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Speaker 1: Without my dad's death, just the way he went, I

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Speaker 1: So Josh, tell us about your near death experience. I

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Speaker 1: repeat it because it was so beautiful when it called

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Speaker 1: I begin to see things that didn't make a whole

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Speaker 1: much more than where I once was seemed minute in

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Speaker 1: looking at myself and my mother, the doctor walks in,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't know it as a doctor. It was

433
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: a guy dressed in white robes, and I was like,

434
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: who's this guy dressed in all white? He looks kind

435
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: of funny, and uh, he comes in, and at that

436
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: point my my mother's color changed. It was almost like

437
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: I was looking at her and there was a bubble

438
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: around her, a bubble around me, and a bubble around

439
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: the doctor. And these bubbles were flashing very fast. And

440
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: as she was interacting with him, I didn't hear, but

441
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: by the sounds of them communicating, open their mouths, the

442
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: bubbles merged in and intertwined with one another and changed

443
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: the color of what she was. And I felt what

444
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: she felt, and it was horrible news. The doctor had

445
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Speaker 1: told her that your son is more than likely never

446
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: going to recover to live a normal life. This is

447
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: very hard because the memory itself brings up the pain

448
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: of what I felt. Then, as the doctor told us

449
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: to her, my mother collapsed in his arms and she

450
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: said no, no, She was in denial, and the doctor

451
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: continued to tell her that it may be all right.

452
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: I've seen children recover, but I've never seen anything like

453
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: this without some injury of some sort. I just wanted

454
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Speaker 1: to prepare you for this. The reality of may what

455
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: happened in the appear even went down the doctor's eye

456
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Speaker 1: because he had just told the mother that her son

457
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Speaker 1: was more likely going to be a vegetable, maybe never walked,

458
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: brain dead, whatever the case is, and that consumes her soul.

459
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: And I still fill the pain upon the memory of

460
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Speaker 1: recalling this, and it is the worst pain that you

461
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: can imagine. Well, as she was sitting there and the

462
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: doctor left, she got down on her knees. She grabbed

463
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Speaker 1: my hand. She said, please God to not take my

464
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: only son from me. I'll never forgive myself. The pain

465
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: that I felt still sticks with me to this day.

466
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm a strong guy and I very rarely ever get emotional,

467
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: but the pain was so real to her. It was

468
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Speaker 1: her prayer with my choice, Josh, we need to take

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

483
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: and we're here with Josh Lucien as he shares his

484
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Speaker 1: near death experience and his wisdom for living life. Josh,

485
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: you left us last with your mom? What was it

486
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: that had you come back? The pain was so real

487
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: to her and her prayer was my choice and I

488
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: didn't know that at the time. The next thing I know,

489
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: there sem normal light fairies that I saw that we're

490
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: making the tree and everything that I wanted to be

491
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: in the other world. Now it's spun himself around my

492
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: head and I felt myself lame back in my body again.

493
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: And it was about a week after that I woke

494
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: up from being in a coma. I had this funny

495
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: helmet on houses, like what just happened? I had no

496
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: idea next thing. The last thing I know, I was

497
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: sitting there watching a person feeling all this pain, and

498
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: the pain is the connection of love. They go hand

499
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: in hand. You can't truly love something if you don't

500
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: feel the pain of loss when they're gone. It's just natural.

501
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Accept it for what it is, absorb it, and then

502
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: use it to honor that love even more. You can

503
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: look at it from the sense of no ego. It's

504
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: our own selfishness that doesn't want to let this person

505
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: go from their life because we want them to be

506
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: there for us. But the reality is they're always with us.

507
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: At the power of thought, we can go back to

508
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: him whenever we want. And you come to acceptance and

509
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: know that you're always in the loving presence of anybody

510
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: who ever lost, They're always with you. Honor them with

511
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: your life and with your heart because they are a

512
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: part of you. And that's the way you feel you

513
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: are connected to all that you love and the world

514
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: that is that comes next. And if anybody was looking back,

515
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: they would only want you to be loved and cherished

516
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: and feel the divine love that they're feeling at that

517
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: particular moment that they knew you will share one day

518
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: when you were a child, I mean obviously, well I'm

519
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: guessing you must have been in tremendous pain when you

520
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: woke up. Oh yeah, I had a lot of issues. Uh.

521
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, I was born left handed. I became

522
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: right handed afterwards. I had to wear this funny helmet

523
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: for about a month and a half. Even so much

524
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: is tapping my head could have killed me at that

525
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: point I should not have recovered. I was literally a

526
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: medical miracle of the fact that I survived, because this

527
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: day I don't have any permanent injury there's nothing wrong

528
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Speaker 1: with me. In fact, I was put in an LD

529
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Speaker 1: class learning disabled after all this for about two years

530
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: because I was still learning to operate and I had

531
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: to learn motor functions again and stuff and throughout it.

532
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: They gave me an i Q test and about the

533
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: third grade, and I scored a hundred and forty eight,

534
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: which I come to find out, it was a highest

535
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: in the whole school. And they said, how could a

536
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: kid that had a severe brain injury score so high?

537
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: And they said, apparently he's he already knows this stuff. Josh,

538
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Speaker 1: when you were young, did you remember that near death

539
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: experience or did it take a little while. I remembered it,

540
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: true and blue. I just didn't know how to explain it.

541
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: I told my mother about it. I told her about

542
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: the place I had seen and a kid like way,

543
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I had nothing to relate it to. I told her

544
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: about the beautiful woman and flying around the mountains, and

545
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, he was probably dreaming in a coma,

546
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, And they kind of shook it off like that.

547
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: Around the age of twelve, I told her that I

548
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: went somewhere when I passed. I actually went somewhere because

549
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: I physically felt the feeling of moving and being moved,

550
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: just like when you're on a roller coaster, except a

551
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: foul a million times faster. I was going at the

552
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: speed a light at one point. Yeah, I was definitely

553
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: been moved. And I explained all this to her in

554
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: such a way that she knew after I told her

555
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: what the doctor said. That was absolute confirmation because she

556
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: never shared what the doctor told her. She never shared

557
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: the prayer that she said in silent with anybody. Once

558
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: I told her that, she knew that I was still

559
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: in that room while the e k G or the

560
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: brain monitor, I was in a vegetative state. I should

561
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: have had no senses. I shouldn't have been able to dream.

562
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been able to fathom anything whatsoever, let

563
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: alone have an experience that is exactly like real life,

564
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: but in a different set of senses that I don't

565
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: even have presently. So if my brain can do all

566
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: that while injured, it we're really not using the ten

567
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: percent of our brain like they say, because you can

568
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: only access the other ninety when you leave your body. Apparently, Josh,

569
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Speaker 1: how did this impact your mom? You blamed herself for

570
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: a while because she didn't watch me. She put her faith,

571
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, somebody else to watch me, and she always

572
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: blamed yourself to that and I told her, I said,

573
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: you don't have to uh to blame yourself. In fact,

574
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: it's been one of the greatest gifts in my life.

575
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: There's a series of mirrors. I've come to accept that

576
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: life as a mirror in so many ways. And one

577
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: of the mirrors is is to see yourself doing compulsive

578
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: acts of things over and over. And for example, her

579
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: guilt is somewhere that our mind tends to go back

580
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: to because it's looking for something to blame other than

581
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: accept the responsibility for ourselves and everything in our life.

582
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: And in doing so, all you're doing is passing the

583
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: buck to something else. You're not actually owning it. And

584
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: can we We can if we, if we have the

585
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: faith to know, and my life's experience, I could explain

586
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: to you doing some thought experiences. For example, anybody can

587
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: do this at home. I can prove to you that

588
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: you're loving feelings have an effect on your material world

589
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: around you. You can take bananas from the same stalk

590
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: of bananas on one focus all the love that you

591
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: have to offer to that banana on the other clock

592
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: from the same one. Focus all your negative feelings of

593
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: hate and anguish over the next three days, confirm each

594
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: day the love and the hate on different bananas, and

595
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: watch what happens to those bananas. I've done this test

596
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: over a hundred different times, and every time I've even

597
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: done it with a handicap, using a green green one

598
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: that I've projected hate onto and an older one that

599
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: I projected love onto. The green one still rotted, still

600
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: turned black. And if your thoughts can have an effect

601
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: on bananas to this degree, imagine what they do to

602
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: your own body. So be what it is you want

603
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: to be. Happiness and love is our main pursuit, but

604
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: we have to do it in a way that we

605
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: don't take from others. Were accepting responsibilities for the role

606
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: that we play and our part and there apart. You

607
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: can't blame anybody for anything in your life. Everybody is

608
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: a mirrored reflection of who you are. The people that

609
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: surround you are what define you. If you look to

610
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: the way people relate to people in their lives, you

611
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: can normally tell who they are using these mirrors as

612
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: a good judge of we are what we create, we

613
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: are what we love. And I have my own form

614
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: of meditation that I try to do every night, the

615
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: center myself to make sure that I'm fully expressing myself

616
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: so that it is which I love. How do you

617
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: do that your meditation? Can you share that with us?

618
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: I've been meditation since I was twelve, and I got

619
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: into martial arts and kung fu, and that's what first

620
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: got me into wanting to meditate. And that darkness that

621
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: you have, you experience that every night, right before you

622
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: go to sleep. Meditation is no different than going to sleep,

623
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: except you're remaining just awake enough to still observe your thoughts,

624
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: your subconscious thoughts, your soul thoughts you can or whatever

625
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: name or label you want behind it. There is another

626
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: mind at play that is you. My ego was one

627
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: of the hardest things to let go of. It was

628
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: always pushing its way in a meditation or a fear.

629
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: If you have a fear and meditation, it will project

630
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: itself and that's all your mind will think about. And

631
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: where most people are fear based by nature. That's what

632
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: motivates a lot of people is fear, and it's the

633
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: natural will to survive and duty and responsibility. You have

634
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: to let all that go. Is literally as if you

635
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: were jumping into a black hole. All the man made

636
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: words and worries, all that stuff doesn't exist anymore. You're

637
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: just just going into the empty darkness of all that is,

638
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: and you have no expectation nowhere to be. And as

639
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: soon as you shut yourself off to all that is,

640
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: then you observe your thoughts and I try any bit

641
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: of thing that normally projects itself into my mind is

642
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: a picture, and those pictures have profound meaning to myself. Example,

643
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: before I meditate, I'll go into it with a question

644
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: in mind, but I won't ask the question meditation. I'll

645
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: physically say it before I meditate, because once I'm meditating,

646
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: if I apply any conscious thought whatsoever, it's like being

647
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: in a dream. The moment you realize you're in a dream,

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Speaker 1: you wake up because you just grab control of it.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that. You have to completely let go

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Speaker 1: and be automatic, and sometimes focusing on your breath is

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Speaker 1: a very good way to do it. I found that

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Speaker 1: having a repeating binary sound, much like your heartbeat, that's

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Speaker 1: in sync with your heartbeat. If you can sink your

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Speaker 1: own heartbeat to a binary beat, it works very good,

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Speaker 1: because the same thing that keeps your heart beating, the

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Speaker 1: automatic motion of that, and the same thing that automatics

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Speaker 1: makes you breathe, you're being self automated. The moment that

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Speaker 1: you let go completely and you're paying attention to the

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Speaker 1: self automated aspect of your own body, that's when your

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Speaker 1: mind goes into this place where dreams become available, and

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Speaker 1: dreams are not only to help you in your present,

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Speaker 1: there to help you overcome fears and worries. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's things that you've experienced in the past and you

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Speaker 1: thought that you could do better, And it's your way

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Speaker 1: of letting go of regret and forgiving yourself so you

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Speaker 1: can love more fully and more holy doing so meditating,

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Speaker 1: Once I'll let go of all this, I've seen some

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Speaker 1: very profound things and it has really helped me understand

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Speaker 1: a lot about myself more than anything, and in doing

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Speaker 1: so by answering those questions. Once you fix your mind,

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Speaker 1: everything else just seems to fall in place. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any thoughts, Josh as to what the purpose of

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Speaker 1: our life here is. I think everybody else has their

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Speaker 1: own specific purpose. We're all doing exactly what we're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be doing right now. God's will is exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Some people are performing processes that they don't even understand

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Speaker 1: that they're doing, and they're doing it completely automatic. The

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Speaker 1: only purpose that we're supposed to find and is to

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Speaker 1: really enjoy the gifts that we've been given. If we're

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Speaker 1: not enjoying the gift, the same thing that allowed the

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Speaker 1: Creator to create us is what we should be embracing

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Speaker 1: every second that we're alive. And my attitude is love, happiness,

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Speaker 1: and the pursuit of I like a good Romans one

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Speaker 1: tin where it says all things in nature can clearly

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Speaker 1: be seen by the Creator, and nobody is with that excuse,

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Speaker 1: basically saying all you have to do is look in

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Speaker 1: nature to see the Creator, because it is seen everywhere

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Speaker 1: every time. For example, if you do a little research

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Speaker 1: into plant consciousness or something, you'll find that plants are

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Speaker 1: incredibly smart. A tomato plant, and no sooner than a

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Speaker 1: bug attacks that, let's say, as spider might comes along

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Speaker 1: and starts nibbling into it, This tomato plant releases a

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Speaker 1: pheromone that attracts a carnivorous might to kill it. Now,

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Speaker 1: from an outside perspective, a tomato plant doesn't know anything

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Speaker 1: about bugs. It doesn't even have a brain in order

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Speaker 1: to do this. But this field of consciousness, god, if

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Speaker 1: you want to call it, it puts everything in the

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Speaker 1: exact place where it needs to be to perform its

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Speaker 1: exact role. We'll be back. You're listening to Shades of

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Speaker 1: the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,

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Speaker 1: a m paranormal podcast network. Did you know that tests

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Speaker 1: back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain and

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Speaker 1: we are with Josh Lucien. Josh, you are just talking

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Speaker 1: about the intelligence in nature. Plants are incredibly smart. A

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Speaker 1: tomato plant, and no sooner than a bug attacks that,

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Speaker 1: Let's say, how spider might comes along and starts nibbling

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Speaker 1: into it. This tomato plant releases a pheromone that attracts

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Speaker 1: a carnivorous might to kill it. Now, from an outside perspective,

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Speaker 1: a tomato plant doesn't know anything about bugs. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: even have a brain in order to do this. But

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Speaker 1: this field of consciousness, god, if you want to call it,

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Speaker 1: it puts everything in the exact place where it needs

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Speaker 1: to be to perform its exact role. And that's why

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Speaker 1: nature is so perfect. We have a lot to learn it,

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Speaker 1: and we also have a lot to learn from children,

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Speaker 1: because children are the newest incarnations and they have the

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Speaker 1: most to teach us about ourselves. They haven't seen or

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Speaker 1: been brainwashed through the way people have learned to accept

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Speaker 1: that reality is they're outside the box thinkers, and they

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Speaker 1: only encompass love, and they only want love. And if

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Speaker 1: you really want to know what life's purpose is, sit

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Speaker 1: down with a child and they'll show you really fast.

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Speaker 1: Why did you get so smart here? I mean, from

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Speaker 1: the doctors thinking you might end up a vegetable to

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Speaker 1: being read. I tend to read a lot, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I've come to a certain point where I don't even

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Speaker 1: read that much anymore. I just look at things and

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Speaker 1: I really listen with an open heart and I see

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Speaker 1: that without being a scientist. I followed quantum physics to

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Speaker 1: try to figure out where Schrodinger's cat is that you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not until you exactly observe something in a defined

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Speaker 1: position that it has any meaning whatsoever. In quantum physics,

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Speaker 1: we're coming to a day and age where science is

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Speaker 1: going to prove that we are so much more than

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Speaker 1: you could ever imagine. That reality is nothing but a

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Speaker 1: group collective dream of everybody working together. And if everybody

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Speaker 1: in the world agreed upon that love and happiness is

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Speaker 1: what we were seeking, we would see a world that

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Speaker 1: would reflect love and happiness. I think right now a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are focusing on the fact that money

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Speaker 1: is having its way with the direction of the planet,

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Speaker 1: making all the money in the world. Isn't always what's

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Speaker 1: best for nature. If we study nature and we see

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Speaker 1: how it cooperates with itself, it doesn't compete against itself

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Speaker 1: at all. And for example, they've done research on ivy plants.

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Speaker 1: When it grows it has spatial awareness. Another ivy plant

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Speaker 1: will not grow over another ivy plant because it will

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Speaker 1: kill it and strangle it, and neither one will get

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Speaker 1: that much light. They've done the same research on birch

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Speaker 1: trees that they don't compete against each other, especially if

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Speaker 1: they're born from the same berthing tree. For example. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's Ted talks on plant consciousness and the way water

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Speaker 1: crystals form. For example, Dr Omoto done some research on

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Speaker 1: water crystal formation and just the thought and prayers put

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Speaker 1: behind the thought of water changes the way they crystallize. Now,

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Speaker 1: our body is water, and this is one of the

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Speaker 1: most unique things that I want to share with you

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Speaker 1: that I've seen in creation, just looking at nature, and

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Speaker 1: it might help a scientist out there. Everything around us

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Speaker 1: is imperfect proportions to everything that we are. Everything that

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Speaker 1: surrounds us is in perfect proportions to who we are.

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Speaker 1: For example, if you were to take the entire universe

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Speaker 1: and break it down hydrogen, carbon, every single element in

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Speaker 1: a pie chart, and then you were to compare that

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Speaker 1: to Earth, you're going to see the same similarities between

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Speaker 1: Earth and the human body. And the human body is

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Speaker 1: literally an aspect, a mirrored reflection of all of creation.

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Speaker 1: And just like our bodies are water and the rest carbon,

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Speaker 1: so is our planet. You've left us something so empowering.

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Speaker 1: You had just brought up Dr Emoto and I know

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Speaker 1: of him doing a rice experiment that you've heard me

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Speaker 1: say on the show before. But you have people all

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Speaker 1: over Japan take one pot of rice and divide it

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Speaker 1: into two jars, and in one room make place one jar,

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Speaker 1: and people would think negative thoughts and say negative words,

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Speaker 1: and in the other room all positive. And at the

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Speaker 1: end of the month, the rice that got the positive

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Speaker 1: words was a like a golden color and smelled nutty,

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Speaker 1: and the one in the other room turned black exactly.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. The power of thought has

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Speaker 1: so much more power than we can ever imagine. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I've been waging a war against the news,

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Speaker 1: because they try to tell you what to think for yourself.

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Speaker 1: I'm not teaching people what to think. I'm teaching them

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Speaker 1: how to think. And I think that's more important is

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Speaker 1: people can see things clearly for what they are for

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Speaker 1: themselves and how they apply it. Dr Moe's research. I've

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Speaker 1: done my own experiments. Here's one that you can do

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Speaker 1: as well. I'll share with you. Take at least three people,

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Speaker 1: take a coin. Everybody agree on what side that coin

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Speaker 1: is going to flip over every time. So if you

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Speaker 1: agree on heads, everybody there agrees on heads. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you have a skeptic, this will not work because the

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Speaker 1: skeptic will be the negativity that blocks this experiment from happen.

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Speaker 1: But if you all truly believe, it's going to flip

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Speaker 1: over heads more than fifty of the time, I don't

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Speaker 1: care how many times you do this. Flip it over

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Speaker 1: ten times. If you agree ten times, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be heads more often than tails. As many times as

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Speaker 1: you do this experiments, it will be heads more often

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Speaker 1: than tails. Oh that's cool. I saw Dr Russell targ

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Speaker 1: he's a physicist, and then died the laser beam and

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Speaker 1: he got into a lot with consciousness and remote viewing,

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Speaker 1: and that's a documentary that they had a random number

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Speaker 1: generator and same kind of thing. People with enough positive

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Speaker 1: intention could swing what this random number generator did, so

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Speaker 1: it was like ones and zeros, and they could actually

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Speaker 1: have it be more like the ones showed up based

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Speaker 1: on their intention. That's what I'm saying. You are connected

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Speaker 1: to everything around you. Everybody is, and that's why qualum entanglement.

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Speaker 1: For example, we could take an electron from an atom

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Speaker 1: and stretch it off to the other side of the universe.

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Speaker 1: When we interact with that atom. Immediately some type of

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Speaker 1: information is transferred all the way to the other electron

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the universe. Is if they

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Speaker 1: are together already. Now, that proves that relativity is wrong.

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Speaker 1: That proves that our modern understanding of science with relativity

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Speaker 1: is completely out the window. What that does prove is

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Speaker 1: everybody is connected and the only separation of self is

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Speaker 1: the illusion of what our senses are telling us that

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Speaker 1: we are separate from. But that's why nature cooperates with itself.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't use manmade labels and define this tree or

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Speaker 1: that tree, or this or that it sees. Everything is

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Speaker 1: just one working, one perfect process, and I think we

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Speaker 1: have a lot to learn from nature. It really is

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Speaker 1: a good teacher. I've looked a lot of Indian beliefs

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Speaker 1: and I really I like some of the Hopi Indian beliefs.

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Speaker 1: They were really one with nature, and they took great

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Speaker 1: knowledge from nature and applied it to their own culture

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Speaker 1: very uniquely. Wow, Josh, just looking at the time, it's

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Speaker 1: about time to come to an end the feeling that

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Speaker 1: I have coming through me now, and maybe you could

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Speaker 1: just share a little bit about this is somebody could

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Speaker 1: be listening to this. Being twenty years old, somebody could

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00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: be listening right now and being there's that sense of Oh,

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00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: I should have started the sooner, or it's too late

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Speaker 1: for me. That's regret. And I've written a lot of

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Speaker 1: poetry about regret, and regret is only the negative aspect.

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Speaker 1: You're focusing on the negative aspect, holding yourself back. You're

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Speaker 1: trying to talk yourself out of doing something before you

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Speaker 1: even give it a go. You'll find out that every

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Speaker 1: journey begins with a baby step. You've never made it

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Speaker 1: anywhere in life by not trying. And as long as

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Speaker 1: you continue to take those steps, the more you apply yourself,

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Speaker 1: the more results you're going to see. This reality gives

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Speaker 1: people exactly what they deserve. God's will is happening, even

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Speaker 1: sometime we may not understand it from our point of view.

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Speaker 1: You're playing the role that you're supposed to play. Everybody

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00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: is doing exactly what they're supposed to do. If they

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Speaker 1: are trying to change and they want to change, then

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Speaker 1: regret is not something that facilitates change in a positive outlook.

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Speaker 1: If you want change to be in a positive outcome,

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Speaker 1: surrounds yourself with positive people. Surround yourself with positive things

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Speaker 1: to be living in this miracle of knowing our full

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Speaker 1: potential or exact quite a bit. Oh Josh, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Do you join the gift? Yeah? Do you welcome people

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Speaker 1: I've I've talked to many people that are having trouble

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Speaker 1: That is something to be grateful for in itself, and

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Speaker 1: one door shuts, another always opens. Very good And if

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Speaker 1: anyone's looking to get in touch with Josh, you can

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Speaker 1: easily be found on Facebook. Josh Lucien L you see

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Speaker 1: I O N. Josh, thank you so much for being

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Speaker 1: everything I've witnessed as a child, and I still remember

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Speaker 1: so much, Josh Lucian, and thank you for our listener

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Speaker 1: you too. It's been a great blessing and I wish

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