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Speaker 1: Do you one day you're one program, the other day

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Speaker 1: you're another program. The world is just ever changing. Beneath

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Speaker 1: Top Bay, recovering a thawing downtown Nashville, Tennessee, Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: January twenty, first year of our lower twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: It is important when we coordinate with the NFL in

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Speaker 1: sincere appreciation of Roger Goodell and the boys for acquiescing

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Speaker 1: right time. Ohio State, I don't even know who you

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Speaker 1: are anymore. What's happening in Columbus, Ohio? We will discuss

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Speaker 1: tampering in these tampering times. Do we need to discuss that?

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily in reference to Ohio State, but in reference

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Speaker 1: football lives? All that plus radical opinions, bold predictions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got a loaded show, jam packed. Dare I say

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Speaker 1: they're watching us in fair Hope, Alabama, Brooklyn, New York, Sunset, Texas,

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Speaker 1: I happen to have it on good authority that Pete

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Speaker 1: Ohio State has had enough. I guess Ohio State looked

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Speaker 1: talking to the esteemed Keem Dirmish about what kind of

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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is Ohio State does not

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Speaker 1: They won with defense this year. Who in the world

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Speaker 1: They're about a dozen programs out there that could easily

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Speaker 1: I'm not. What I am very interested in seeing is

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Speaker 1: the bumper sticker version of what they're doing. Do we

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Speaker 1: and I go to CBS, or I go to Fox

430
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Speaker 1: or NBC or ESPN, and I go sit in the

431
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Speaker 1: studio three or four years. I go sit there long

432
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Speaker 1: enough for the sport to figure itself out. And I basically,

433
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Speaker 1: once I like things the way that I want them,

434
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Speaker 1: Once I got things the way I want them, I

435
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: just hop right back in. Let my agent know start

436
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: floating my name, and once the right job opens up,

437
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: I'll just hop right back in. I think someone's going

438
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Speaker 1: to do that. I think someone in the prime of

439
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: their career may step away from college football and look

440
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: a lot like Chris Peterson looks. Actually, I don't think

441
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: coach Peterson plans on getting back in, but I'm saying

442
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson when he stepped down took a lot of

443
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: people by surprise. You may see someone else or someone

444
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: else's step down, go work TV for a little while,

445
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: refresh themselves in the process, we charge their batteries, and

446
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: then when the sport looks, you know, more inviting something

447
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: they actually recognize, they hop back in. There will be

448
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: I think a collective realization in twenty twenty four about

449
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: what the playoff is. You know, there's a twelve team

450
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: playoff coming. That's that's all most people know. But the

451
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: collective realization of how that playoff works, I think around August, September, October,

452
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: that'll start to set in for a lot of people,

453
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Speaker 1: and some people are not gonna be happy with it.

454
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: I don't even mean the size of the field. I

455
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: mean how the field is selected. Like, trust me, you

456
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Speaker 1: guys watch the show. Like if you're watching the show

457
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: in January, you're a hardcore fan, so you probably are

458
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: aware that as of the moment, we have a six

459
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Speaker 1: and six format, which means six auto bids for conference champs.

460
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: It's insane. And then you got six at large spots

461
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of talk behind the scenes that

462
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: may shift down to a five auto bid seven at

463
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: large model, But either way, that means you know your

464
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: SEC and Big ten champ are going to be in

465
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Speaker 1: and then you've got three or four more conference champs

466
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Speaker 1: that are guaranteed a spot. As of now, you probably

467
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: have two G five teams in there, whatever G five

468
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: means to you these days. And mind you, it's not

469
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Speaker 1: just your top twelve teams. You've got the highest ranked

470
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Speaker 1: conference champs. Regardless, there's a world where you could be

471
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Speaker 1: ranked twentieth, Liberty could be ranked twentieth or actually, let

472
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: me pick teams in the conferences, so I mean two lane.

473
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Speaker 1: It always sounds like I'm picking on them. I'm not

474
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: hats off to coach somem er all get it done

475
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: down there. But there's a world where a two lane

476
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Speaker 1: or a utsa or hoopstever could be twentieth in the country.

477
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: But because they're one of the two highest ranked G

478
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Speaker 1: five champs, they just get in. They get in over

479
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Speaker 1: A ten and two or nine and three Oregon. That's

480
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Speaker 1: floating right there on that bubble. Insanity. I don't think

481
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: it'll last that way, but it's insanity. So how does

482
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Speaker 1: the committee interpret strength of conference? It is what I

483
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: am totally out to lunch on. I don't know. And

484
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Speaker 1: what I mean is you've got a new era here,

485
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: and you got the A two B two era. You

486
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: got two behemoth conferences in the SEC, in the Big ten,

487
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: then you got the Big twelve in the ACC, which

488
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: are respectable in their conference strengths, but they pale in

489
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Speaker 1: comparison to the big boys. What's it gonna take. Is

490
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: it a two game gap? Is it nine to three

491
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: in the SEC equals eleven and one in the Big twelve.

492
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Speaker 1: How is it interpreted? Because keep in mind, they still

493
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Speaker 1: got to negotiate that new playoff twenty twenty six and beyond.

494
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Speaker 1: And if Greg Sankey or Tony Petiti sit there and

495
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Speaker 1: they see that the strength of their conferences is not

496
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: getting properly interpreted by that committee, I don't think they're

497
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: going to sign off on any kind of auto big

498
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Speaker 1: struct sure in the future and in the world as

499
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: it's structured now, why should they? I also think when

500
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: we do get to December, now, this is going to

501
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: blow your mind because again, although everyone knows we've got

502
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: an expanded playoff, we haven't lived it yet. I'm not

503
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: even talking about whether I like it or not. It's here.

504
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: So think about this. December is going to feel like

505
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: the biggest time warp you have ever thrust yourself into.

506
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: In January two, there will be a month long period

507
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: where you have no clue what day it is. So

508
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: think about this. We're trying to find out if they

509
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: have the early signing day still set for that third

510
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Speaker 1: Wednesday and October. In December, we're trying to find that out.

511
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: So let's just for the sake of argument, assume that

512
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Speaker 1: it is. Remember we've got four rounds of playoffs now,

513
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: so you got the early signing day that I assume

514
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Speaker 1: is on that Wednesday, which would be December eighteenth. The

515
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs starts two days later. You

516
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: could have teams out there prepping for playoffs, and the

517
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: week of the game they're also tasked with signing their class.

518
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: Makes total sense. So you sign a class two days later.

519
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: You may have a road playoff game. They got a

520
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: game on Friday. Then there are three of them on

521
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: that Saturday. Okay, that's the first round. Then you have Christmas,

522
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: and then the next week Tuesday, December thirty. First you

523
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: have a quarterfinal game Wednesday, January. First, you got quarterfinals,

524
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: and then you fast forward another ten days. And by

525
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: the way, stop me when you see a Saturday anywhere here.

526
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: The semifinals happen on Thursday, January ninth and Friday January tenth.

527
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: Then you fast forward another ten days and the national

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00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: championship games on a Monday night. Oh, by the way,

529
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Speaker 1: that's Martin Luther King Day. Oh by the way, that's

530
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: Inauguration Day. How do you feel about that? I think

531
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: it's insanity, But how do you feel about that? And

532
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: just pinpoint any day in that stretch. If you're like me,

533
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, if you're glued to this stuff and you've

534
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: got portal happening within that, and you've got coaching searches

535
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: happening within that, you will not know what day it is.

536
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: You will feel like you have been transported to another

537
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: dimension for an entire month. There's no other way to

538
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: be a college football fan anymore in that structure. There's

539
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: no other way to do it. So, by the way,

540
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: just I skin this over a little bit too quickly.

541
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: Our playoff games are going to be Friday and Saturday,

542
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: then Tuesday and Wednesday, then Thursday and Friday, then Monday.

543
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: You really think the right people have their hands on

544
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: the wheel of this sport right now. It couldn't be Academy,

545
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: That's all I can say. Academy Sports and Outdoors if

546
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Speaker 1: they ran things Saturday championship games, don't even care what

547
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Speaker 1: anyone else is doing. But they don't. What they do

548
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Speaker 1: is they run really good stores and they make our

549
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Speaker 1: show free of charge to you. We always appreciate that

550
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: it is right now very icy in Nashville, So it's

551
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: not the best time to start spring sporting season outside,

552
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Speaker 1: but it will be very soon. Academy Sports and Outdoors

553
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554
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Speaker 1: in person, Academy just boooooop Academy dot Com. They've got

555
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Speaker 1: your hookup. And always arm in arm a partner with us,

556
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Speaker 1: and they look. There's a lot of behind the scenes

557
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Speaker 1: back and forth between us and them as well. They're

558
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Speaker 1: always asking, Hey, what do the folks want? What do

559
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Speaker 1: the folks want? So we really appreciate them. Academy Sports

560
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Speaker 1: and Outdoors one stop shop for all things outdoor sporting goods. Plus,

561
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Speaker 1: let's roll along. It's time to talk about the tea word.

562
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: You see some of those infomercials during these NFL games

563
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: for low tea medication. We do not have low tea

564
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: in college football. We've got very very high tea tampering,

565
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot of it going on. What do we do

566
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: about it? What's the cure for high ta tampering? In

567
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: these tampering times of ours? I had a question from

568
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: one of you, Cora from Madison, Alabama, and Cora said,

569
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: did you see Caden Proctor admit that Iowa tampered with him? Yes?

570
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: I did. Caden Proctor was the number one offensive tackle

571
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: in the country last year. He is from Iowa. He

572
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: goes to Alabama starts his true freshman year at left tackle.

573
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: He has since entered the portal and gone back to Iowa.

574
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: I think he was at the basketball game Saturday and

575
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: a reporter, you know, put a mic in his face

576
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: and was asking him, why did you come back here?

577
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: And he said something along the lines of I feel

578
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: supported here. They kept reaching out to me this year,

579
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: and then a lot of people took that to me.

580
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Uh oh, Iowa tampered. I don't know if they did

581
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: or not. If they did, what I would like to

582
00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: suggest to you is they weren't alone. So do I

583
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: like tampering? No? Could. If I could rid the world

584
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: of tampering with the push of a button, would I.

585
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: But that's not the button that is realistic to press. Jesse,

586
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: do we have the button? Yes. As you know, we

587
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: are entering an election year, and we will spend approximately

588
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: zero seconds covering that election on this show because it's

589
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: not what you watch our show for. However, when I

590
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: am elected college Football Commissioner, I plan to have this

591
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: button on my desk and if you're listening on podcast.

592
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: The button says three year Bowl ban, forget Bowl, three

593
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: year post season ban for any team guilty of tampering. Now,

594
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: if that was an all knowing button, if the truth

595
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: was held within that button, and me pressing that button

596
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: would completely eliminate any team where any staffer or any player,

597
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: or any support staffer or anyone associated with the program

598
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: had tampered. Would any of you really want me pressing

599
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: that button? Your answer is no, because all your teams

600
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: have done it. And if your head coach and offensive

601
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: coordinator defense coordinator hadnt done it, someone down the line

602
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: has done it. If they haven't, you have an athletic

603
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: department full of living, breathing angels, and they're probably going

604
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: about six and six this year, but God bless them anyway.

605
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: So pretty much everyone's doing it. I am going home

606
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: later tonight. I will drive through Atlanta. I will look

607
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: at speed limit signs that say fifty five miles per hour.

608
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: I won't be doing fifty five, nor will anyone else

609
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: around me. Is it right? Is it justified just because

610
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: I say everyone's doing it? No, But in order to

611
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: make sure I'm safe, I actually have to go above

612
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: the speed limit. It's actually safer flowing with traffic than

613
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: it is going to speed limit. So in college football,

614
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: let's say everyone else around you tampering and you don't

615
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: like it, and they don't necessarily like it. Everyone's just

616
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: doing it because everyone else is. And you had two choices.

617
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: Let's just say I gave you an ab scenario. A.

618
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: You you get some of your players, upperclassmen who you

619
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: know you can trust, to stay in touch with some

620
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: of their buddies on other rosters and sort of report

621
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: back to you. That's tampering. You could either do that

622
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 1: or you cannot do it and see your opponents reaping

623
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: the benefits of tampering. And you're going five and seven

624
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: and your AD says you're fired, and you tell him, no, no, no, no, sir,

625
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: I could have gone nine and three last year, but

626
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: I didn't tamper. And he says, okay, but you're still

627
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: the same fired that you were before you told me that,

628
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: what would you do? You'd probably tamper. You probably would

629
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: because you'd look at it and say, this is not

630
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: so much an ethical dilemma for me. It's just an

631
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: ncublea issue kind of like you know, if I buy

632
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: extra cheese whiz and put it in the trays there

633
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: in the rec hall. It is against ncuble A rules,

634
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: but I don't really think I'm doing ethically anything wrong.

635
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: And a lot of guys look at tampering the same way.

636
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: So how would you ever police it? That's my first

637
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: question to you, if you've got an idea to hear it.

638
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: There was a fight about this on this show five

639
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 1: years ago, which was the time to address it, by

640
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: the way, five years ago, So five years ago, we

641
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Speaker 1: were not here. Five years ago, I was doing the

642
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: show down in Columbus twenty twenty five people watching on

643
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: a good night and we would do segments sometimes where

644
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: we would actually take calls. Colin, how would that go

645
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: over these days? So we're taking calls and this was

646
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: when they were proposing the transfer portal. So they were

647
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: proposing the portal, and it was on the heels of

648
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: there was some transfer that had happened and someone was

649
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: trying to block it. Then everyone was saying, well, no

650
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: coach should ever be allowed to block this, or no

651
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: conference should ever be allowed to block that. We should

652
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: just have free transfers. Sounded great, Players rights and all

653
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: sounded great. So I took a call on that one night,

654
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: and someone suggested players should be able to just freely

655
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: move anytime they want to, and I said, well, no,

656
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. And they said, well, normal students can do it,

657
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: and I said, football players aren't normal students. Football players

658
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: are given things that normal students don't. They are therefore

659
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: asked a little bit more than students are asked the

660
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: way it is as far as I can see it,

661
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: far as I can tell far as I care back then,

662
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: and they said, nope, you're holding them to a double standard.

663
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: And they're not employees, so that's not right that you

664
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: can do that. And we got in a fight because

665
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: I said, okay, do you know what the consequences are?

666
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: I asked the guy, are you a college football fan?

667
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: I said, let's just let's just go nuts and bolts here.

668
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Are you a fan of college football players? Or are

669
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: you a fan of college football? Not even to consider

670
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: right and wrong necessarily. I just wanted him to answer

671
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Speaker 1: the question for himself. He said, I'm a college football fan.

672
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: I said, all right, you understand what you're advocating for

673
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: and what it'll do to the sport, right He said,

674
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: what do you mean? And I said, well, if you

675
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: have free transfers, understand that means the recruiting process never

676
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: stops right now, back then, it stops once a kid commits.

677
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: And if I finished second for him, Pete State finishes

678
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: second runner up for a wide receiver, he takes the

679
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: Pate State hat off on signing that he puts the

680
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: Georgia hat on. That's it. But now I could just

681
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: tamper with them behind the scenes as true freshman year.

682
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't start immediately for Georgia, I could

683
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: be in his ear, or his aunt's ear, or his

684
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: sister's ear, and I could keep trying to recruit, in

685
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: which means Georgia has to continue to recruit their entire roster.

686
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Speaker 1: And you know what that guy said that had never happened.

687
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: His thinking was, staffs are too busy recruiting as it is,

688
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: they'll never have time to in an organized effective manner

689
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: also recruit other rosters. And I said, sir, if you're

690
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: proposing a world where you're allowed to acquire talent from

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Speaker 1: other college football rosters anytime you want, as long as

692
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Speaker 1: they're willing to come along, might I suggest to you

693
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: that a lot of the tension from some of these

694
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Speaker 1: staffs would be redirected from high school recruiting to college recruiting.

695
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: So that had never happened. You just fear mongering that

696
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: had never happened. Well it happened. Now you can't go back.

697
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: That's the thing about slippery slopes. MEMI used to tell me.

698
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: They call him slippery for a reason. Now you can't

699
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: go back. I haven't gotten a call from him lately,

700
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: and I know him by the way I know him.

701
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: Our show was so dead back then we had to

702
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: plant phone call, so I knew and know him. Haven't

703
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: heard much from him on that front. But hey, if

704
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: you're really that upset with tampering, call it out. That's

705
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: my advice. If you're really that upset, take a page

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00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: out of Patent Oar Doozy's book. At pitt he had

707
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison. He thought Lincoln Riley and USC staff tampered

708
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: with him, and so he called him out and he

709
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: said us he tampered with this kid. And then Pat

710
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: and Ardoozy was on record. The next cycle is saying,

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00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: no one tampered with our roster. We didn't have any

712
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: problem with tampering this cycle. Why because Pat and Oar

713
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: Doozy actually stepped up and called someone out publicly. Now,

714
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: you better be clean when you do that, and I

715
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: guess they are because he was quite confident in doing

716
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: it so outside that. Like I told you, you can

717
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: either get with it, or you can get run over

718
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: by it, or you can get out of it. Those

719
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: are the three options. Next up, a lot of wide

720
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: arranging topics on the show tonight. Appreciate you guys watching.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you just like the video and subscribe to

722
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: the channel while you're here. Jesse, is this a question?

723
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: This whole Big Ten? And yeah, it was okay. So

724
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: we had a question from Santa Barbara, California. Listen to this.

725
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: I'd be very interested to get your thoughts on this.

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00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: The question is, given money, resources, access to multiple playoff berths,

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00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: and strength of schedule, do you think every Big Ten

728
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: and SEC head coaching job is better than any job

729
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: outside the conference? Now he added some caveats there, but

730
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go with what he asked. They're in

731
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: the body of the question. My answer is no. So

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00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: to be clear, what he's saying is all these well

733
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: not all these conferences. The SEC and the Big Ten

734
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: are are getting so much more TV money that allows

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00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: them to pay their coaching staff so much more if

736
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Speaker 1: they want to. That could the worst job in the

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00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: Big ten still be better for a coach than the

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Speaker 1: best job in the ACC And my answer is no,

739
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. Now, my question does

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00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: become in this new world of ours, in this A

741
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Speaker 1: two B two everyone else's world of ours? How radically

742
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: is the pay scale warped? Because right now the highest

743
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: paid coaches in these conferences are paid dollar figures that

744
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: Clemson or FSU or Miami could easily afford to pay.

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00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: Do we ever get to a spot where the head

746
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Speaker 1: coach of Purdue is making seventeen million dollars a year.

747
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't think we will, because I think we are

748
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: rapidly approaching a period in the sport where the revenue

749
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: is going to have to be shared with a lot

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00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: more people than just coaching staff. So I don't think

751
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: we'll ever get there Right now, the top ten highest

752
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: paid coaches as of last year, it was Saban and

753
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Swinny and smart. Josh Hipel was tenth. But the point

754
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: is the gap between Sabin and Hypel was two million

755
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: dollars and Saban made eleven point five last year. DABO

756
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: made eleven or thereabouts last year. There are a lot

757
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: of programs outside the Big two that can afford to

758
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: pay that kind of money. They can afford that, so,

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00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: as of this moment, the payscale hasn't been warped to

760
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: that point. Will it be warped in the future. If so,

761
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: we'll have to revisit this. But right now, FSU has

762
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: got no problem keeping up with that kind of payscill

763
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: if they got the right guy, and they do and

764
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: Mike Norvel like, they'd be fine if they needed to

765
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: bump him up a couple more million dollars a year,

766
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: which they just did, by the way. But let's play

767
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: the long game for a second. I understand what you're

768
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: saying when you suggest to me that, oh Josh, that

769
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: big ten and sec sticker, it means everything. I'd rather

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00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: be the head coach of Indiana than the head coach

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00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: of fill in the blank because you've got the security

772
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: of knowing you've got that big ten blanket over you. Well,

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00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: I disagree with that. You do have security in knowing

774
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: you're in the biggest fish bowl or one of the

775
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: biggest fish bowls in the sport. But I personally would

776
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: much rather have a workable path in the ACC or

777
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. I'd even much rather have a

778
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: workable path in the AAC or even the Mountain West

779
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: than have a Tier three job in the SEC or

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00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Because what people aren't realizing is, at

781
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's still about wins and losses.

782
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: And when you're adding to these conferences teams like Texas

783
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma, or you're adding Oregon and Washington and USC

784
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: to these conferences, if you're a Tier three job or

785
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: a head coach at that Tier three job, all that

786
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: means is, yeah, there's more media rights money coming into

787
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: the conference, and yeah, you may be making a little

788
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: bit more than you otherwise would have. You're also going

789
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: to show more losses per year. And if you think

790
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: these people are going to look and say, oh, four

791
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: and sevens ok, now, cost the conference is a little

792
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: bit deeper, they're not. So you're putting yourself in a

793
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: position where if you are the head coach at a

794
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: Tier three spot in the SEC of the Big Ten,

795
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: it's impossible to elevate, whereas if you're tearing it up

796
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: at Tulane or you're tearing it up at Utah, you

797
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: could theoretically just afford to sit there and continue to

798
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: tear it up, make pretty good money, and wait until

799
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: one of the Tier twos or Tier ones opens up.

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00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: That is a much more beneficial strategy long term to

801
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: me than just saying I gotta get to the SEC

802
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: no matter what. I got to get to the big ten,

803
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: no matter what. I don't know, there's a worthwhile goals.

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00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: But no matter what, understand what you're saying. Understand what

805
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: those words mean. They're watching us in New Brunswick, Canada, Bluffton, Ohio,

806
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: and Richmond, Virginia. Thank you guys so much. All right, So, Jesse,

807
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: I just looked over here again. Are people talking about

808
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: this thing? Have people been talking about t Robin Georgia

809
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: in the chat? Okay? Okay, I thought so, because I've

810
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: looked over here twice and I've seen it. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna address this, Colin. We'll get to the portal

812
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: until in a second. So I'm looking over here at

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00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: the live chat, and I got people saying Georgia the

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00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: only reason they got Travers Robinson as their co DC's costs.

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00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: They overpaid for him. There are reports they paid one

816
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: point three million dollars for him, that's his annual salary.

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00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: Those are the reports that's not overpaying for Traveris Robinson,

818
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: and I just I'll address this, okay, So, how do

819
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: you know he's overpaid? How do you know t Rob's overpaid?

820
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: What scale do you use? How much should he make?

821
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Speaker 1: By the way, if you think he's overpaid, how much

822
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: should he make? How did you arrive at that dollar figure?

823
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: What kind of scale do you use? What kind of

824
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: comparative analysis do you do in the market or within

825
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: the industry in general? How much should a DB's coach make?

826
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Speaker 1: How much should a wide receivers coach make? And how

827
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Speaker 1: do you factor all that in? So so, how do

828
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: you get your number that comes out in your conveyor belt.

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Speaker 1: I'll probably hear silence for quite a while on that.

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Speaker 1: T Robin think made eight hundred thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 1: at Alabama? All right, very quickly, I'm gonna walk you

832
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: through how this works. So he made eight hundred k

833
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: year to be a dB coach at Alabama. I'm gonna

834
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: call him a dB coach at Georgia because I don't

835
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: think he's calling plays over there, So you can put

836
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: CODC next to his name all you want to. I'm

837
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 1: gonna call him a dB coach, So I'm actually going

838
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna seed that for benefit of the argument.

839
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: The power for market value ACC Big twelve, SEC Big

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00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: ten for a DB's coach is about four twenty five

841
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: to four fifty K a year. But that's not the

842
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: gotcha figure because this is not just a random power

843
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: for job. It's an SEC dB job and it's the

844
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: University of Georgia. So in the SEC, they typically allocate

845
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: about five point five percent of their total salary pool

846
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: to pay a dB coach. This is the University of Georgia.

847
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: You may or may not be aware. They've got one of,

848
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: if not the fattest salary pools, not only the SEC,

849
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: but in college football. So guess what five to five

850
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: point five percent of the salary pool that Kirby Smart

851
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: has it Georgia comes out to be voila, about one

852
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: point two to one point three million dollars per year.

853
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Let's say we're on the low end. Let's say it's

854
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: one point two. Well, Josh, they're still overpaid one hundred

855
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You want to know how I can make

856
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: that up if that's even accurate. How I can make

857
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: that up as saying I need an extra one hundred

858
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: k worth of value? How do I define it? He's

859
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: a good recruiter, Yeah, but that's already baked in. How

860
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: about I took a coach from Alabama who, until further notice,

861
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: is still the biggest threat to me in this conference.

862
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: T Rob's not overpaid. If you were paying in one

863
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: point three at Kentucky, h'd be overpaid because Kentucky didn't

864
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: have the same salary pool that Georgia does. So it's

865
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: all contingent on who hires someone and where they go.

866
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are running their mouth about

867
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: that they don't know what they're talking about because they're not.

868
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: I'm not even privy to the inner workings of the

869
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: finances there. I just know a little bit more about

870
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: it than the average person because I do pay attention

871
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: to this stuff behind the scenes. They have that salary

872
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: pool for a reason. Kirby's got the recruiting budget he

873
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: does for a reason. They got the facility budget they

874
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: do for a reason. He walked in and said, I

875
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: want to win titles if you do too, here's what

876
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna take. You got to give, You got to

877
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: give it all to me, and they've given it all

878
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: to him. The b roll right now of him holding

879
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: that trophy, that's a national title trophy. They won two

880
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: in a row because they do that sort of thing.

881
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: That's how they roll there. And they will not continue

882
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: to cut corners. So if it takes one point three

883
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: to sign the guy they want, they're gonna pay one

884
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: point three. But they didn't go well above and beyond.

885
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: They didn't overspend for him. They spent exactly in the

886
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: range that the book says they should have spent for him.

887
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: So all right, now back on track, Colin, let's talk

888
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: about what we were supposed to talk about the transfer portal.

889
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: I didn't let me cooled down for a second. Probably

890
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't have gotten as worked up over random comments in

891
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: the chat. But guys, it's not throwing darts at a board.

892
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: Do you understand that, it's not just guessing. It's not

893
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: Kirby flit up in a coin or waking up and saying,

894
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: what does my gut say I should pay someone today?

895
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: He knows, he knows, t Rob's representation knows. Everybody knows

896
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: it's not guesswork like that was pretty well mapped out

897
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: long before Pen hit paper over there. Okay, now, Transfer

898
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Portal Intel Ohio State already got their own segment on

899
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: the show. So I'm not gonna dive back into all

900
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: the big moves Ohio State's made. You can look it

901
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: up on the channel if you want to. But Lance

902
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: heard I am gonna talk about because that is a

903
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: six to six, three hundred and forty pound offensive tackle,

904
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: former four star, played just about every game for LSU

905
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: this past year, and he's headed to Tennessee. LSU was

906
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: loaded enough and deep enough at tackle that he may

907
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: have been the odd man out, and so he was

908
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: a freshman all SEC and he hits the open market

909
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: and he's got three years of eligibility left, and Josh

910
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Heipel had a big need at that position. And now

911
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: it's the seventh Portal edition, fourth Tennessee. They went and

912
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: got him, big splash. I know it hasn't made a

913
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: ton of front page headline because of what's been going

914
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: on at Ohio State. This is a really big deal

915
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: for Tennessee. That's a plug and play type guy six six,

916
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: three forty is a five star I said he's a

917
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: four star. He's a former five star. In the twenty

918
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: twenty three cycle. What about des Ricks He has landed

919
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: at Texas A and M number nineteen overall player in

920
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: the portal number four corner, six one hundred and eighty

921
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: two corner. He got three years left. That's twenty one

922
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: guys who have portaled out of college station. That's twenty

923
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: three who have now portaled in just massive roster turnover.

924
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: Mike Elko, new head coach there, got the number two

925
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: overall transfer portal class. They it's it's just amazing. When

926
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: you look at the top forty players in the recruiting

927
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: cycle for twenty twenty three, it's only one year ago.

928
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: Eight of the top forty have already transferred. So that's

929
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: that's not quite twenty five percent, but it's getting close

930
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: to twenty five percent. Alabama's making some moves. So you

931
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: saw guys walk out the door for a second, that

932
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: may be done. We'll see now guys are starting to

933
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: walk in. They got the number one center in the country.

934
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: Parker Brelsford has committed to Alabama. Played for Washington, part

935
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: of that Joe Moore Award winning offensive line up there,

936
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: number one inside offensive lineman, first team Freshman All American

937
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: at Washington last year, started thirteen games at center for him,

938
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: and it's a really good thing for Bama. And by

939
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: the way, just a little while ago, Jeremy Bernard, who's

940
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: been on campus for him. He's a receiver that was

941
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: at Washington. He was their number four receiver behind those

942
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: three NFL guys and still had four hundred nineteen receiving

943
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: yards last year. He's also committed to Alabama as of

944
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: the last hour or so. So Taylor de Bores looked

945
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: at his roster he left behind and said, I'll take

946
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: that when that one, that one, that one, and that

947
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: one not that many. You just get what I'm saying.

948
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: But I am looking at Washington and this is wild,

949
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: Like everyone's everyone's looking at Bama saying, oh man, so

950
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: sad for Bama. Really they're not Bama fans are dude,

951
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: Look at Washington. Listen to this. So they just won

952
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: the Joe More Award best offensive line in college football.

953
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: Right all five of them are gone, either to the

954
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: portal or to the draft. All five of them are gone.

955
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: The entire starting offense is now gone. Twenty of twenty

956
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: two overall starters are gone. They've got two defensive guys

957
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: I think as of now that are set to return.

958
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: That's the transfer portal era and Jedfish is now the

959
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: head coach up there. Totally new team and they head

960
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: into the Big Ten this year. Amari n I Black,

961
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: he's a guy who left Alabama sixty four two d

962
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: and thirty three pounds tight end, third leading receiver for

963
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Bama last year. He's headed to Texas. Texas has been

964
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: a big time portal player. They will continue to be that.

965
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: He was number one at his position, number thirty overall

966
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: in the portal, and you know Jatavian Sanders out the door.

967
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: Amari ny Black walks right in and he's a guy

968
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: you can see him doing really big things in at

969
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisan offense. Sixty four to two hundred and thirty

970
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: three pounds and probably probably still has a lot of

971
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: untapped potential. Texas now number one tight end from the portal,

972
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver and number seven wide receiver, number

973
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: one safety, number four edge guy. So you recruit very well,

974
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: and they're recruiting at a top five level, and then

975
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: you just go sprinkle portal dust on your roster, and

976
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: that's the recipe for being a playoff team. Trey Amos

977
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: also left Alabama, so we're now seeing the guys who

978
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: left Alabama. We're seeing them all fine landing spots. Trey

979
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Amos was a guy who in spot duty played very

980
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 1: well for Bama last year. He played in all fourteen games.

981
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: He was the number eight corner in the portal. Played

982
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: three seasons down at Louisiana and he transferred to Bama,

983
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: so he was just at Bama last year. He's gone

984
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: to ole Miss and that's the third dB that ole

985
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,360
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986
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: seventy fifth in past d overall in twenty twenty three.

987
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: So I know it's mid January and I thought we

988
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: were done talking about the portal. But anytime these coaches leave,

989
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: their roster is open. It's right for the plucking. If

990
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: Harbaugh leaves Michigan and they elevate Sharon Moore, a lot

991
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: of people are waiting to see how many players would

992
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,800
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993
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: goes outside for a hire, then that guy's roster it's

994
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,560
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995
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,440
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996
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00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,719
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999
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,160
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00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,320
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00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: on Bowls season, right Well, Keith hit me and said,

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00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent four players opting out of Bowls

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: because I want to see guys I haven't seen play yet. Now,

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00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: Keith me Ma would say, that's why God invented spring

1057
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: practice in spring games. But I do get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a right or wrong here. It's

1059
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: just a matter of preference and and it Goldalie, Keith.

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00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: You could make a strong argument that this past year

1061
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: fueled that argument a little bit, and because I can

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Speaker 1: see it sometimes, Like when I was watching Tennessee's bowl

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00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: game against Iowa, no shot at Joe Milton. I wanted

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00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: to see nico A m Aliave at quarterback, like I

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00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: wanted to see Jackson Arnold play for Oklahoma. I wanted

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00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: to see Miller Moss in place of Caleb Williams for

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00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: USC And we saw all of those players and it

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00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: gave us a really good glimpse into what could be

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00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: for those teams in twenty twenty four. But we also

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00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: saw Florida State get splattered all over the place by Georgia.

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00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: So I didn't like that all that much. And there

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00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: were countless other examples of players opting out, and basically

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00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: it just makes that team kind of unrecognizable from the

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: team that existed in the regular season. Now, Keith, if

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00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: you're a fan of a team, I totally get what

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00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: you're saying. You may think to yourself, well, we're not

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Speaker 1: playing for a title, We're not in the playoff anyway,

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00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: We're in the Gator Bowl. So I want to win,

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Speaker 1: but I prioritize seeing our new guys. I want to

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00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: get them some reps. Blah blah blah. And you may

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00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: feel that way about your team, but that's the only

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00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: team you'd feel that way about the rest of bowl season. Keith.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see backup players because you don't

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00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: care about the backup players on those teams. You want

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: to see the teams as you saw them in the

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00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: regular season. And so I think that's probably the wiser

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00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: holistic way to look at it. And also, whether you

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00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: like it or not, you gotta admit all the Bowl

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00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: opt outs are still a product of a broken system,

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00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: and we did not used to have that problem. So

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00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: the bigger issue here is not would I like seeing

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00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: guys opt out? Or do I like it when they

1093
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: opt out? Why are they opting out? And the answer

1094
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: is not good and it's not something we had to

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00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: deal with a decade go and now we do. So

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, Keith. I'm not the biggest fan, but

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00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: there are times where I can't admit I do see

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00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: eye to eye with you. All Right, we've taken a

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00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: brief time out with what we're about to finish up

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00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: with here in when would I do it? In spring?

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00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: Every year, I ask you, guys, give me your boldest

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00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: predictions that you actually think are gonna come true, and

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: I put boldness ratings on them, and then we just

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00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: save them. We freeze them, and then we saw them

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00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: out in January and we see who was right and

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00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: who was wrong. And this is gonna be a tough

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00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: ending to the show for me, because there are four

1108
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: predictions here that you guys got right, and I didn't

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00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: think any of them were gonna be right, and maybe

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Speaker 1: one of them. So listen to this. So the first one,

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00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: this takes us all the way back to weeks one

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00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: and two. Trevor from Arvada, Colorado said, Colorado's gonna beat

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00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: TCU and Nebraska to start the season, so they were

1114
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: like a three touchdown underdog against TCU and they go

1115
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: into Fort Worth and beat them the story of the

1116
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: sport in week one, and then Nebraska comes to town

1117
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: and that figured to be a lot more competitive. Colorado

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: beat them too. I put a nine point five boldness

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: rating on that because of Week one alone, winning as

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00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: a three touchdown dog and thinking what I thought about

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00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: Colorado's offensive line and how much they were going to struggle.

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00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: They did. By the way, we weren't wrong about that.

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00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: They were just a lot better out of the gate

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00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: than I thought they were going to be, So that

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: was right. This is a valid bold prediction. Hats off.

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00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: I put a nine point five one to ten scale.

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00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: By the way, nine point five on it. They won

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Speaker 1: their first three games. They beat Colorado State as well.

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Speaker 1: The next one is the one I feel best about,

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00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: and we're going to the Big Twelve for this one.

1131
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: Andre from Grove City, Ohio said the Big Twelve championship

1132
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: game will not be a rematch from the regular season.

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00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: What he was basically saying is ou Texas will not

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00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: have a part two. We went to the Red River Shootout,

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01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: it was a classic, and Oklahoma wins at the very end,

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01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: and everyone left that day saying, oh, don't worry, Texas

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01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: will get their shot. And Texas did get their shot

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: against a team from Oklahoma. It just was not the

1139
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Speaker 1: Sooners because they didn't make it. And so this was

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Speaker 1: no shock to me. As you guys know, I and

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01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: I alone predicted Texas versus Oklahoma stated in the Big

1142
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: Twelve championship game. Now, some out there would claim that

1143
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: I backed off that prediction two months into the season.

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01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: Some would even go as far as to say, we

1145
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: did an entire segment on the show where I repredicted things.

1146
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: But is there really any evidence of that. I don't know.

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01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: I can't remember any evidence of that, and it would

1148
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: be very unprofessional for me to have gone in hidden

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Speaker 1: the video on our channel. That doesn't sound like something

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01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: I would do at all. So, as far as I'm concerned,

1151
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Speaker 1: and here's what I want you guys to write your

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01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: journals tonight. I predicted that thing, rightis Oklahoma State the end?

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01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: Next up, this one was a little more challenging. This

1154
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: was a really creative one. By the way. Tom from Concord,

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01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: North Carolina said, NC State will have the best record

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01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: of any Power five team in the Carolinas. So can

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: you name them all? By the way, we're talking about Clemson,

1158
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, Duke, and Wake Forest.

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Speaker 1: I said this was an eight point seventy five on

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Speaker 1: the boldness scale. So in C State out of those teams,

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Speaker 1: is going to have the best record. You know what,

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Speaker 1: they ended up having the best record. They ended up

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Speaker 1: tied with Clemson with nine wins. I think it was Jesse. Yeah,

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01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: so they were both nine and four, but n C

1165
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: State won the head to head, so that's the tiebreaker

1166
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: in our rule book. So NC State actually did tom

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Speaker 1: They had the most wins of any Power five team

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Speaker 1: in the Carolinas. Let's just quickly, for the sake of education,

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Speaker 1: remind you what the preseason totals were, because you know, ever,

1170
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: everyone wants to bet the over in over under win totals.

1171
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: In the preseason, Clemson's over under was ten. They won

1172
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: nine games under North Carolina eight and a half was

1173
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: the preseason total. They won eight games under NC State

1174
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: was seven preseason they won nine over South Carolina was

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01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: six and a half. They won five under Duke was

1176
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: six preseason. They won eight over. Mike Elko gets the

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Speaker 1: A and M job. As a result, wake Forest was

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01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: six in the preseason four under. Four out of those

1179
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: six teams hit the under. Be careful kids, Betting those

1180
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: over is his nasty business in the preseason. And lastly,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe this. I had blocked this from my memory.

1182
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: Hoger classic name and a classic prediction. Here, Hoger said,

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01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Washington becomes the first Pac twelve team since twenty fourteen

1184
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: to make the title game, and unlike TCU, they make

1185
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: it competitive. I don't know how I did it. I

1186
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: put a nine on this, and candidly I thought I

1187
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: would have put above a nine on the boldness scale.

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: Their odds were plus four thousand to win the national title.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what their odds were to make the

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Speaker 1: title game, but it would have been a very long shot.

1191
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: They were in the mid teens. If you would have

1192
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: looked at the fan duel odds in the preseason, Washington

1193
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: would have been mid teens to win the title. And

1194
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: that's basically them telling you it's not gonna happen. And

1195
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Speaker 1: not only did they make it to the title game,

1196
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: they were competitive. Michigan pulled away in the end, but

1197
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Speaker 1: it was a competitive game. That's all I can do.

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Speaker 1: That's why we do bold predictions, so that we can

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Speaker 1: have these kinds of moments and hope. If I were you,

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Speaker 1: I would freeze frame that, I would print it out

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Speaker 1: and I would hang it up above a mantle in

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Speaker 1: my home or office or I don't know wherever you

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Speaker 1: spend the most time. So congrats, good show tonight, very

1204
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Speaker 1: very lively. A lot to talk about. I know it's

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Speaker 1: January twenty first, and I know the casuals would call

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01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: it the off season. There's too much happening, guys, you

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Speaker 1: got to keep at lockdown. I will be back your

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. We'll have something for you Tuesday or Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: probably a mail bag edition on the podcast feed only.

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Speaker 1: So that's a reminder this time of year, we do

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