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Speaker 2: Oh chill, Let's get right into the game. That just ended.
Speaker 3: The thunder hang on and beat the Pelicans two and
Speaker 3: it was their MVP candidate again, Shaye Gilgus Alexander with
Speaker 3: a three point play that put them up and then
Speaker 3: Chat Holmer hit a free throw may one of two
Speaker 3: put them up to and CJ got the ball knocked away,
Speaker 3: got a shot up, but it wasn't It didn't look
Speaker 3: like it was close to going in from the back,
Speaker 3: and so they hold on to win and keep home
Speaker 3: court as they win ninety four to ninety two.
Speaker 2: Watching this ball.
Speaker 3: Game, lead change, lead change, ten point lead, nine point lead,
Speaker 3: look like okayc within control of the game, but the
Speaker 3: Pelicans comes storming back, take a lead briefly, but the
Speaker 3: pelot but the thunder would not go away. That's a
Speaker 3: very scrappy team and for a team to be so young,
Speaker 3: they find ways to win ball games. Laying the ball game,
Speaker 3: What did you like about what you saw with Joe Man?
Speaker 1: I like shy obviously being an MVP candidate. Games like
Speaker 1: this is when you have to step up and play
Speaker 1: like an MVP. Obviously, he was eleven eleven for twenty four.
Speaker 1: The lead changes obviously, the game of basketball being a
Speaker 1: game of runs, and that's exactly what.
Speaker 5: This game did.
Speaker 1: The lead continued to change back and forth between the
Speaker 1: Pails and the Thunder. But Shy coming coming up, big Ship?
Speaker 5: Is it shit? I do want to say his name right?
Speaker 5: Ship home?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Listen play play played well too?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: Brother brother No brother brother really brother really tall? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 5: brother really tall? He played very well as well.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed the game obviously, you know.
Speaker 1: For me, you know, I'm not much of a basketball
Speaker 1: basketball fan, but watching these games and getting a little
Speaker 1: bit more into it for me has been very very
Speaker 1: exciting and learning the game on the fly and on
Speaker 1: the run as I am now, I'm enjoying it a lot.
Speaker 3: Well, you have to get a Thunder credit because they
Speaker 3: did a great job on brandon Ingram. They made it
Speaker 3: tough for him all night. They challenged him, they got
Speaker 3: up under him, they contested every shot he could seem
Speaker 3: to never get a rhythm. But the turnovers late really
Speaker 3: hurt the Pelicans. I thought they had an opportunity. They
Speaker 3: get a rebound and Larry Nace Junior throw the ball
Speaker 3: out of bounds. They get another rebound and then they
Speaker 3: turned it over. They let the let the the Thunder
Speaker 3: poke the ball out from the back and they give
Speaker 3: that up. Brandon Ingham get a shot, he gets a
Speaker 3: one on one on low door and he gets an
Speaker 3: offensive file call. It was just so many things and
Speaker 3: you would thought this was something that the Thunder would
Speaker 3: do right. I didn't kind of expect the Pails to
Speaker 3: melt down like they did. But give the Thunder credit
Speaker 3: because they made the plays when they had to make it,
Speaker 3: because they could have easily folded ten got the press man.
Speaker 3: We had a ten point lead. Here we are late
Speaker 3: in the ball game. But they held it together. They
Speaker 3: got the ball to their best player, Shay, and he
Speaker 3: did an unbelievable job. He got the n one, he
Speaker 3: made the shot, and that's what you have to have.
Speaker 3: Your stars have to come up big. And tonight the
Speaker 3: Pales best player, Brandon Ingram. Obviously, with Zion being out,
Speaker 3: you're relying heavily on him. Five or seventeen er two
Speaker 3: from the three point line. He only got to the
Speaker 3: free throw line twice. That's not good enough. That's not
Speaker 3: good enough. You get twenty one from Trey Murphy eight
Speaker 3: of eighteen, you get nine of twenty two from CJ.
Speaker 2: Twenty points.
Speaker 3: You need a brand b I needs to be in
Speaker 3: that twenty point range. I thought Valentiunis did a great
Speaker 3: job on the glass thirteen with twenty boards. He had
Speaker 3: nine offensive rebounds that give you an opportunity to get
Speaker 3: a lot of second chance points.
Speaker 2: But give the Thunder credit. They health serve at home.
Speaker 3: The one thing that you don't want to do is
Speaker 3: lose Game one on your home court, because now the
Speaker 3: team feels really good. So they've stolen the game, and
Speaker 3: so give the Thunder credit. They played well down the stretch,
Speaker 3: played well enough to win the ball game. This was
Speaker 3: a game I thought the Pailfs could have won and
Speaker 3: probably should have won. But if they want to have
Speaker 3: an opportunity to win this series, brandon Ingram is gonna
Speaker 3: have to play better than what he played tonight.
Speaker 1: I mean, so obviously brandon Ingram is gonna have to
Speaker 1: play better. Yes, in the situation, do you think the
Speaker 1: outcome of the game changes if Zion played tonight.
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, yeah, I mean we know what Zion is.
Speaker 3: I mean he's a guy that can go get your
Speaker 3: double double. They have no answer for it. They have
Speaker 3: no answer. They don't have anybody. They don't have anybody
Speaker 3: that can put a body on him and keep him
Speaker 3: from getting to the paint man. You see how he
Speaker 3: was going through a d he was going through RUI,
Speaker 3: he was going past Lebron the thunder. Don't have anybody
Speaker 3: that neutralize that. But probably not gonna be back in
Speaker 3: this series. So you don't even you're not thinking about
Speaker 3: having him. You're not even thinking about him because they
Speaker 3: say two weeks, you know, ham string and when you
Speaker 3: got to do certain bursts that they grab.
Speaker 2: So you're an air on the.
Speaker 3: Side of caution because you don't want him to rip
Speaker 3: it off the bone. So but all intents and purposes,
Speaker 3: he's not playing in this series. And so you need
Speaker 3: to frame your mind. What we have in this locker
Speaker 3: room that dressed and pales gear. That's what That's what
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to win with Brandon Ingram is gonna
Speaker 3: have to play better than what he played. I know
Speaker 3: herb Jones is better than what he gave. He only
Speaker 3: gave you eight points tonight. They only got thirteen points
Speaker 3: off the bench. Ugh Alvarado normally gives them a little
Speaker 3: more than what he gave him.
Speaker 6: They had.
Speaker 2: Let's not take that back. They had eighteen points off
Speaker 2: the bench.
Speaker 3: Lad Nas had some big time rebounds, like I said,
Speaker 3: he had eight rebounds. Didn't play a whole lot of play,
Speaker 3: less than twenty minutes. But the opportunities that they squandered,
Speaker 3: like I said, three turnovers. You got the ball in
Speaker 3: your hands and Larry Nas throw the ball out of bounds.
Speaker 3: They're CJ standing right in front of him, and he
Speaker 3: throws it to a guy that has his back turned.
Speaker 3: That damn near out of bounds when he threw it
Speaker 3: to it. And so just the turnovers laid in the
Speaker 3: ball game, and that's the focus. I'm sure Willie Greeny says, Hey,
Speaker 3: this is a game we could have won, we probably
Speaker 3: should have won. Let's come out there with that same focus,
Speaker 3: that same mindset. Clean some of the things up and
Speaker 3: we'll be okay. But the thunder to hang on and
Speaker 3: get a hard part victory ninety four, ninety two. You
Speaker 3: have to be pleased with this because this is a
Speaker 3: game that could have swung the other way, but the
Speaker 3: thunder half found a way to win the ball game.
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard missed the Clippers.
Speaker 3: Season open against the Mavericks on Sunday due to knee inflammation,
Speaker 3: but the Clippers won anyway. The Clippers managed did you
Speaker 3: just find without him in Game one, never trailing in
Speaker 3: the ball game, leading by as many as twenty nine
Speaker 3: points thanks to James Harden and Paul George, who are
Speaker 3: combined for fifty Zubos added a career high, playoff high
Speaker 3: twenty points, also added fifteen rebounds. Now, if you tell
Speaker 3: me the Beard, you notice I didn't say James Harden. See,
Speaker 3: they don't want James Harden to show up. They want
Speaker 3: the Beard to show up. Jack Harden to show up.
Speaker 2: You take it.
Speaker 3: You going home as long as the Beard shows up
Speaker 3: right and plays like this. He was aggressive, he was
Speaker 3: looking at it, looking for a shot, but he wasn't
Speaker 3: too aggressive that he made other players get out of there.
Speaker 3: I love what Tyler did.
Speaker 2: Early.
Speaker 3: Tyler sayd man, y'all ain't got nobody big enough to
Speaker 3: deal with Big Zoo down Snow down low. If you
Speaker 3: noticed they went to Big Zoo early. That's what they
Speaker 3: normally do with an Anthony Davis. That's what they normally
Speaker 3: do with a Joel Embiid or one of these other
Speaker 3: big guys. But he's like, man, Daniel Gaffer, you two
Speaker 3: light in the backside, Bro, you ain't got enough bricks
Speaker 3: in your back pocket. And Zu Boss did a number
Speaker 3: on him early in the ball game. So now we
Speaker 3: got to send double we got to send help. Okay,
Speaker 3: in the process of you sending help, now you're gonna
Speaker 3: leave these shooters open. And they made them pay. But
Speaker 3: I thought Beard played really well. PG got it going,
Speaker 3: got it going in the fourth quarter. But they knocked
Speaker 3: down shots, and that's what you have. Terrence Man knocked
Speaker 3: down some big shots. They'll had guys that knocked down
Speaker 3: big shots. What would they the three point line, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 3: eighteen to thirty six, eleven or thirteen.
Speaker 2: From the file line.
Speaker 3: Obviously they're they're they're a jump shooting team, with the
Speaker 3: exception of like I said, the only guy that can
Speaker 3: that really posts up is Zubos because dy Lou felt
Speaker 3: that they had an advantage with sides inside.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well hell, god damn. The Clippers eventually outscored
Speaker 1: the MAVs. Damn there, twenty to ten. You got James
Speaker 1: Harden playing out his mind, Kawhi is out with injury,
Speaker 1: Paul George played played well, and obviously Zubach is a
Speaker 1: mismass for really basically, damn near everybody the MAVs have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically y'all. Gaff gafferd is not big enough. I like,
Speaker 3: I like Lively the second He's small, but he's very athletic.
Speaker 2: But what's gonna have to happen? I already know what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get.
Speaker 5: From Kawhi and Luca when he comes back.
Speaker 2: I know what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get somewhere around fifty five to sixty five
Speaker 3: points on a nightly basis. What are those other guys
Speaker 3: gonna do? Daniel Jones played eighteen minutes, gave me zero points.
Speaker 3: Daniel Grafford played fourteen minutes, gave me three points.
Speaker 2: PJ.
Speaker 3: Washington he gave me eleven. He normally gives me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: probably about fifteen. I could have used that, But then
Speaker 3: what the Cleveland one for five from the field, oh
Speaker 3: for three from the three point line. He gave me
Speaker 3: three points. Tim Hardwood Junior gave me six points. Lively
Speaker 3: gave me three points. That's not good enough. But those
Speaker 3: other guys, because look at it, Paul George had twenty two,
Speaker 3: Zubos had twenty, The Beard had twenty eight, Terrence Mann
Speaker 3: had thirteen. Russ came up the bench and gave you thirteen.
Speaker 3: You see the ballance scoring because see now I'm looking
Speaker 3: at it. I'm looking at I already know what Kyrie
Speaker 3: and Luca's gonna do.
Speaker 2: You can see that. Yeah, none of you other guys
Speaker 2: gonna do anything.
Speaker 5: They got the step up hell the first half.
Speaker 1: The Man's had the worst offense in the first half,
Speaker 1: and obviously they and they playoff history. So if you
Speaker 1: got to have your supporting cast show up, so Luca
Speaker 1: and damn Kyrie don't have to be Superman, right, If
Speaker 1: they don't have to be Superman, everybody else shows up
Speaker 1: the playball, they're gonna be fine. I still think, obviously
Speaker 1: the Clippers have an edge and have an advantage once
Speaker 1: Kawhi comes back. I like the big three as opposed
Speaker 1: to their two. They're two headed monster over in Dallas.
Speaker 1: So if Beer continues to play consistent and shows up
Speaker 1: not being James Harden but shows up being the beer
Speaker 1: and playing consistent, playing consistent basketball, I think they have
Speaker 1: a chance to go pretty damn far in the damn
Speaker 1: damn playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you look, Kevin Bayley shot, they shot less than
Speaker 3: thirty nine percent from the field. The Mavericks dead, they
Speaker 3: shot from the three point line. And that's the that's
Speaker 3: the thing, because I'm counting on Luca, like I said,
Speaker 3: fifty five, somewhere between fifty five and sixty five or
Speaker 3: the nightly base. Can I get from my other starters?
Speaker 3: Can I get forty? And then can I get another
Speaker 3: ten fifteen from a bench? I don't think that's asking
Speaker 3: too much. Forty yeah, forty from the other three, that's
Speaker 3: only thirteen points. I mean, PJ Washington, what was PJ Washington?
Speaker 3: What did he average for the season. I think he
Speaker 3: averaged about fifteen.
Speaker 5: They got to be on fire.
Speaker 1: And his playoff time his playoff time too. So you know,
Speaker 1: most of the players don't have the confidence to be
Speaker 1: able to pull a trigger on those shots.
Speaker 5: That's why they traded three. Let that green light go.
Speaker 2: It's different.
Speaker 5: Everybody don't have the green like to just pull it.
Speaker 3: Finally, Luca has someone that can tag came along with it.
Speaker 2: Kyrie.
Speaker 3: He's never had that player. He had it for one
Speaker 3: year he had Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 5: Mh.
Speaker 2: We see what Jaylen Brunson is doing with his own
Speaker 2: team in the Knicks.
Speaker 3: Now he has a guy and Kyrie still beyond skill
Speaker 3: three level three mid range, the best finisher. He's the
Speaker 3: best small small person finisher in the history of the league.
Speaker 3: He's one of the best finishers ever either hand. Got
Speaker 3: English up and under gypsy dude mid range. Like I said,
Speaker 3: you file him, you go to the fire line. He's
Speaker 3: gonna make ninety percent of those shots. Luca's gonna be Luca.
Speaker 3: He averaged thirty four, gave you nine to nine. He
Speaker 3: scored assisted more points total points than anybody in NBA history.
Speaker 3: We know what he's going to the well except Will.
Speaker 3: We thought we don't. We don't put Will ned the equation.
Speaker 3: But we know what Luca. They're gonna do. But they
Speaker 3: need PJ. Washington. What is PJ okay? Ash's looking at thirteen?
Speaker 3: So he average thirteen, So he gave you to What
Speaker 3: about Daniel Jones? What did he normally give you? Because
Speaker 3: they got to get either or or Tim Hardaway Junior
Speaker 3: is gonna have to give you better production off the bench,
Speaker 3: somebody's gonna have to come along with Luca and Kyrie
Speaker 3: because that's not enough. Two men are not gonna be
Speaker 3: the team because that's what the Clippers have and they
Speaker 3: played great team ball. Look, Luca's gonna get it, but
Speaker 3: you gotta make him get it inefficiently. Eleven of twenty six,
Speaker 3: four of twelve. Yeah he had thirty three, but it
Speaker 3: took him thirty three shots to get it.
Speaker 2: I can live with that. I just don't want him
Speaker 2: to get thirty three on fifteen.
Speaker 5: Sixteen shots shots, right, But I.
Speaker 3: Also don't want him Guess what, and I made him
Speaker 3: a score He only had six assists.
Speaker 2: See what Luca gets you is that.
Speaker 3: You allow him to get thirty five forty and he
Speaker 3: has thirteen to fifteen assists. So not only is he
Speaker 3: getting his, he's allowing other people to get there. So
Speaker 3: if y'all want to play two man basketball, if y'all
Speaker 3: want to go out there and score sixty five seventy,
Speaker 3: have at it. But the mother three and the rest
Speaker 3: of them ain't getting nothing. And that's the way tay
Speaker 3: Loo's gonna approach it. Look, we're gonna make we can't
Speaker 3: stop them. We can't deal with them. Let's not let
Speaker 3: anybody else go crazy.
Speaker 2: Clippers.
Speaker 5: Look, look they're gonna have to you know it, and
Speaker 5: you know it.
Speaker 1: That got to be difficult too. And I think about it,
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know how I think about football and
Speaker 1: coming off the bench and how difficult it is to
Speaker 1: get into a rhythm or flowing the game, and think
Speaker 1: about Tim Hardaway Junior having to come off the bench
Speaker 1: or the bench players in generally having to come off
Speaker 1: the bench and actually get it's god damn difficult to
Speaker 1: get into goddamn rhythm.
Speaker 3: No, because that's what you do. It is not like
Speaker 3: you all of a sudden, Oh yo, you're a starter.
Speaker 3: That's what you do. Now, if that all of a
Speaker 3: sudden they said, well, oh yo, we need you to today,
Speaker 3: We're gonna hold you out the first two series, now
Speaker 3: you would have a compelling argument because that's not what
Speaker 3: you normally does.
Speaker 2: This is what Tim Hardaway does.
Speaker 5: He comes off the bench, right, right, damn that's that.
Speaker 3: There's there's no excuse because you're in the exact same
Speaker 3: role you've always been in, right, everybody, And that's the thing,
Speaker 3: that's what you have to do you have to, And
Speaker 3: that's what the playoff does. The playoff forces you to
Speaker 3: be at least be who you are. Now the greats
Speaker 3: take their their playoff, they normally increase, right once he
Speaker 3: increased the rebounds or assist, that's what the greats do.
Speaker 3: We just need or the team just need their role
Speaker 3: players to do the role what they would normally do.
Speaker 1: So you think they have a chance as far as
Speaker 1: the role players, the players of the bench in game two.
Speaker 3: If they played, if they play like they normally played.
Speaker 3: This was one of the most clutch teams. Clutch last
Speaker 3: five minutes of the ball game, game within five points.
Speaker 3: That's what clutchers define their in NBA terms. This was
Speaker 3: the best. If I'm not mistaken, this was the best
Speaker 3: clutch team. You can understand why they got Luca, they
Speaker 3: got Kyrie. Put you in the pick and roll. Now
Speaker 3: they can lob it to Gafford, they can lob it
Speaker 3: the Lively. So yeah, I expect the Mavericks to play better.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna go another quarter where they
Speaker 3: just score eight points. They's caught eight points in the
Speaker 3: second quarter, oh joep So that kind of doomed though,
Speaker 3: and they're fighting an uphill battle from that point on.
Speaker 3: He scored eight points in a quarter and you allow
Speaker 3: a team to have a twenty six to twenty seven
Speaker 3: point lead. Now you saw Kyrie got to go it
Speaker 3: in the third. I think he'll probably try to insert
Speaker 3: himself a little earlier because Luca got it going early,
Speaker 3: Kyrie got of took a back seat, and then Luca
Speaker 3: went away in the second. But Kyrie didn't get it
Speaker 3: going to the third, so they let too much separation
Speaker 3: get between them and the clips before they were able
Speaker 3: to try to put a den in it, and they
Speaker 3: always got it. I think they cut it down at
Speaker 3: one point, not the final score. The final score is twelve,
Speaker 3: Yes it's twelve, but I think at one point in time,
Speaker 3: I think with eight minutes, I think they got in
Speaker 3: like fourteen or sixteen.
Speaker 2: But that was really as close as the guy. But PJ.
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, Daniel Gafford or Hardaway Junior, they're gonna have
Speaker 3: to play a lot better. I don't know what happened
Speaker 3: to cleeber shot. I mean he was throwing up bricks
Speaker 3: left and right. I mean he wasn't even hitting a
Speaker 3: rim on those three.
Speaker 1: He was taking right, hey, playoff basketball, baby, yeah, and
Speaker 1: make a fool of it, and make a fool of
Speaker 1: us all.
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum had his first career this is his first
Speaker 3: career triple double. Right, career triple double as the Celtics
Speaker 3: run past the Butler list heat one of fourteen to
Speaker 3: ninety four.
Speaker 2: Game really wasn't that close.
Speaker 3: Temperance flared in the final minutes when Caleb Martin undercut
Speaker 3: Tatum for a rebound attempt and sent him crashing to
Speaker 3: the floor. Brown got up in Martin's face, leading to
Speaker 3: a brief scrum before del technicals was called on Brown
Speaker 3: and Martin. Miami was pushed around most of the game,
Speaker 3: living into five offensive rebounds. Spoke after the game. The
Speaker 3: Cels controlled the game from the tip. They won the
Speaker 3: big muscle areas, definitely three point line and the majority
Speaker 3: of the areas in between. But nobody is surprised that
Speaker 3: Boston won a three point line because you know why,
Speaker 3: nobody takes and makes more three than the Boston Celtics tract.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, where the uh I need due?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 3: I got yeah, yeah, the Celtics look good. I mean
Speaker 3: they were reigning threes early and that's what they do.
Speaker 3: And that's a blessing and a curse, Ocho, because the
Speaker 3: thing that can happen is that they end up shooting them,
Speaker 3: shooting you out of the gym, or they miss and
Speaker 3: shoot you.
Speaker 5: Back in it in the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they ended up wow, twenty two of forty
Speaker 3: nine from the three point line, twenty two or forty nine,
Speaker 3: that's forty five percent. Miami was twelve or thirty seven.
Speaker 3: And so you got Jason Tatum had a triple double
Speaker 3: with twenty three points. Derrick White had twenty points, Chris
Speaker 3: Stoph Prazingers had eighteen, JB had twelve, Houser had twelve,
Speaker 3: Al Horford had ten.
Speaker 2: Houser really got it going and it made a stretch run.
Speaker 3: They tried to make it close in the second quarter
Speaker 3: and I think Howser hit three straight reads and blew
Speaker 3: the game back opening. The Celves really never look back
Speaker 3: from that. But this is what the Celtics do. They
Speaker 3: take an enormous amount of threes and if they're hitting,
Speaker 3: they're gonna shoot you out the gym. But I thought
Speaker 3: of Miami. The Miami didn't have a coaching problem, they
Speaker 3: had a math problem. They was given up threes and
Speaker 3: taking twos.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to win a game like that, obviously,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to compete, especially with the
Speaker 1: Celtics shooting efficient from behind the line. Yes, but I
Speaker 1: think what sports is gonna do. They're gonna make the
Speaker 1: right adjustment. They're gonna make the adjustments they need to do.
Speaker 1: And I think even though I think the Celtics not
Speaker 1: even think the Celtics are a better team, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, the Celtics are a better team.
Speaker 5: But I think.
Speaker 1: Coaching is going is what's going to keep spoture, is
Speaker 1: going to keep the heat in this game or in
Speaker 1: this series for that matter, and make it closer than
Speaker 1: what people think it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: I gotta make it ugly, very very ugly. The Celtics
Speaker 3: want to play a masterpiece type of a game. They
Speaker 3: want to move the ball, get a bunch of threes. Now,
Speaker 3: I want to I want to make it like a
Speaker 3: grease pig. I want to make a county fair where
Speaker 3: pop it all over the ground and letting people just
Speaker 3: throw in the cups on the ground.
Speaker 2: I want it nasty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's the only chance that you have because
Speaker 3: you can't play a fluid game with this team, because
Speaker 3: they have you outgunned. You don't have a Tatum, you
Speaker 3: don't have a JB. You don't have a Presingers, you
Speaker 3: don't have that. Your bench is not as deep as theirs.
Speaker 3: You know, they come with houses. They come with Al
Speaker 3: Horford and Peyton Pritcher. You know, can control the game.
Speaker 3: He can knock down shots, he can push the ball,
Speaker 3: he can distribute the ball. Yep, this is man at
Speaker 3: Boston doesn't win it this year. They don't win it
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 5: That window that windows closing or has it closed?
Speaker 3: Right, it's not closed because this is I mean, Jason
Speaker 3: Tatum's twenty five. I think JB's twenty six, right, So
Speaker 3: but I'm saying, but it's not like while teams wait,
Speaker 3: teams are getting better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, free azy go come.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 2: You never know what.
Speaker 3: Hey, Philly might get somebody or somebody else, you know,
Speaker 3: the Knicks might get a big piece.
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 3: So that's why you have to seize the opportunities when
Speaker 3: they present themselves. Hey, we know the West, Hey, the
Speaker 3: West is the West. But this is I think they
Speaker 3: have an excellent chance to win this year because they're loaded.
Speaker 3: You know, you look at Holiday who can defend. Derrick
Speaker 3: Wayne is a very good on ball defender for Zingers,
Speaker 3: can control the plane. Al Horford is another guy that
Speaker 3: can rim protect and can control the plane as far
Speaker 3: as with your bigs. So this is a great opportunity
Speaker 3: for them. It's gonna be very disappointing season if they don't,
Speaker 3: if they don't get it done. But Miami only had
Speaker 3: five offensive rebounds. Boston cleaned them up on the glass
Speaker 3: with a plus ten on the glass, plus five on
Speaker 3: the offensive on the offensive glass.
Speaker 2: That won't get it done. That won't done.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the chances? What percent did you give
Speaker 1: the Heat win this damn series.
Speaker 3: Without Jimmy Butler? Point zero zero five?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, god, damn man, Jimmy. I wonder how
Speaker 1: long the extent of his injury is with the MCL.
Speaker 1: What do you think, MCL?
Speaker 3: He ain't coming back no time soon. Joelb had a miniscus.
Speaker 3: He never do you have miniscals on the MCL.
Speaker 2: Joel. I think he had a miniscus.
Speaker 5: It was just a little spring or right, just a
Speaker 5: little spring.
Speaker 3: I don't see I don't see him coming back with
Speaker 3: at least two weeks.
Speaker 5: Damn boy, we ain't got we ain't got a damn chance.
Speaker 1: Then if that's the case, no, I mean somebody, God,
Speaker 1: damn bam, gotta be bam. Got to turn into a
Speaker 1: Key Elijah one or somebody.
Speaker 3: I mean twenty four and six Tyler hero struggle today, Homi,
Speaker 3: Howckey has played really well. He gave you sixteen Homy,
Speaker 3: Hawk Cares Jr. Delon Wright came off the bench and
Speaker 3: gave you seventeen five of from three.
Speaker 2: You just don't have You just don't have the man power.
Speaker 5: We have to shoot even if we don't.
Speaker 1: If we don't have the man power, we have to
Speaker 1: be efficient from the field and shoot the same way
Speaker 1: we did against the Bulls.
Speaker 5: Maybe we was hitting everything. Yeah, but that's not the Bulls.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Oh man, So you.
Speaker 3: Got your work cut out for yo, Joe. The Bucks
Speaker 3: beat the Pacers one on nine to ninety four. Dame
Speaker 3: Lillard his first half at It's his third first half
Speaker 3: for thirty or more in his playoff career since nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety seven ninety eight. No player has more such half
Speaker 3: than Dame Dame Litler has three. Devin Book and Lebron
Speaker 3: James half two. He went off for thirty five points
Speaker 3: in the first half, and then he got picked up
Speaker 3: in the second half by Middleton and Bobby Porters, who
Speaker 3: played tremendous in the second half.
Speaker 2: Both of those guys played well.
Speaker 3: Dame carried him in the first half, and then VP
Speaker 3: and Middleton did an outstanding job in the second half
Speaker 3: of carrying them and they end up winning the game
Speaker 3: one on nine to ninety four. Siakam had an outstanding game.
Speaker 3: He was fifteen or twenty five, thirty six points. Miles
Speaker 3: Turner had seventeen points. But they need more from mem
Speaker 3: Hard and Halliburton. Calliburton only had nine points. You got
Speaker 3: nine points. You got to have fifteen fifteen, twenty assists
Speaker 3: you can't have. You can't be under double double digits
Speaker 3: in both points and assists. He led the league in assists.
Speaker 3: I think he had about twelve a game, and he
Speaker 3: gave you nine. That's not good enough. Nine points, eight assists.
Speaker 3: Mem Hard gave you six points. Nick Smith gave you
Speaker 3: seven points, and then you got Ports. You gave you
Speaker 3: a double double fifteen and eleven. You got Chris Middleton
Speaker 3: gave you a double double. Twenty three and ten you got.
Speaker 3: Dame gave you thirty five, pat Ball gave you five,
Speaker 3: low Pez gave you eleven, and then you get up
Speaker 3: the bitch you got Crowded gave you five, Collington gave
Speaker 3: you six, and.
Speaker 2: Beasley, Malie Beasley gave you nine.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: That's man, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: With Janni's being obvious, obviously, Giannis is out sports came
Speaker 1: in and played pretty good. Obviously, fifteen point seven for fifteen,
Speaker 1: shooting eleven boards. Damian Lillar gonna be Damian Lillard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been off, he's been off some games.
Speaker 5: He's been off.
Speaker 1: We we You're not sure what Damion Liver is gonna
Speaker 1: show up, but obviously it's playoff time.
Speaker 5: You probably know what he's gonna give you.
Speaker 1: Uh, I think if the Pacer, if the Pacers can
Speaker 1: win the next game, what is the chance that you
Speaker 1: think Johannis comes back and makes a series even that
Speaker 1: more interesting?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think he got.
Speaker 5: A strange cab. I think he had what Joe Burrow had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how how many games did Joe Burrow miss?
Speaker 3: How many weeks did Joe miss two? Whether two or three?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, just imagine yes and see that's the thing. See, and.
Speaker 3: It's different than than Yannis Joanna's got to get up
Speaker 3: and down, he got to do sudden movements, right. Calf
Speaker 3: injury for a basketball player and the football players is
Speaker 3: entirely different.
Speaker 1: And when I think about it, I remember, remember when Katie,
Speaker 1: remember when KD came back from injury in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: To try to say the series you think you think
Speaker 1: you think Gianni would pulled, try to pull some stuff
Speaker 1: like that because he has he had to say so
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he not listened to them,
Speaker 1: damn doctors.
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially if.
Speaker 1: If the Pacers, for some god forsaken reason, make this
Speaker 1: series a little closer than what people expected to be.
Speaker 5: Do you think he'll be like, you know what, I
Speaker 5: got to play and I.
Speaker 3: Got to come back because he don't want to run
Speaker 3: that risk because KD came back with the calf and
Speaker 3: you see what happened. Giannis doesn't want to run that risk, right.
Speaker 3: But and see for me, this this works perfect for
Speaker 3: Dame because he used to being in situations where he's
Speaker 3: the guy right so now but he has a better
Speaker 3: supporting cast Bobby Porters middle to and not just to take
Speaker 3: anything away from CJ. But if you look at the
Speaker 3: overall makeup of the team, what he has a starter,
Speaker 3: I think they're better position now. Obviously, if Jan is there,
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be he could get it. But I
Speaker 3: can believe Dame Lillard. Could he have four or five
Speaker 3: more games like he had the first half. Yes, maybe
Speaker 3: he doesn't score thirty five, but I've seen Dame Lillard
Speaker 3: stay hot for a month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't say it, well, he ain't gonn shoot.
Speaker 3: Like yes, he can, and you've seen him if you
Speaker 3: followed this young man's career, you've seen him heat up
Speaker 3: like this. I just knew he was going for fifty.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that he didn't. That he didn't score any
Speaker 3: points in the second half, But like I said, Middleton
Speaker 3: and VP picked him up in the second half, but
Speaker 3: he was on fire in the first half.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable. It's amazing to see this. O Joe.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get right into it because we got a
Speaker 3: special guest that's on the line for US guys. Let's
Speaker 3: welcome Heisman Trophy winner LSU's own the draft this Thursday,
Speaker 3: and he's gonna hear his name called very very early
Speaker 3: in that process. Let's welcome Heisman Trophy winner from l
Speaker 3: s U Jane Daniels j D.
Speaker 2: What's up? How you doing?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 5: Jay was good by What's happening? Man? Chilling? Chilling, chilling
Speaker 5: right here?
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm trying to see how you feeling, man,
Speaker 1: that that childhood dream is gonna happen in a few
Speaker 1: more days.
Speaker 5: How you feeling, man?
Speaker 2: Honestly?
Speaker 6: Like anxious?
Speaker 7: Like you know, I'm just ready to get this. Hear
Speaker 7: my name calling it to work? Has it hit you yet?
Speaker 7: It hasn't said yet? No, I don't really sat in
Speaker 7: you know, I've been everywhere, you know, flying back and forth,
Speaker 7: being on flights, you know, thirty visits, top thirty visits,
Speaker 7: stuff like that.
Speaker 6: So I really had time to really sit back and
Speaker 6: think about it.
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, woa Jack?
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, yeah, why are you taking all
Speaker 3: them visits?
Speaker 2: You're like where y'all picking? Y'all picking. I ain't gonna be.
Speaker 2: I ain't coming to see y'all. Man, Stop playing with me.
Speaker 6: That's a once a lot of time thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got you got to.
Speaker 3: Take me all the frequent flyer pounds trying to so
Speaker 3: walk us through the process. Okay, you win the Heisman. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, I can't do any more unless you
Speaker 3: I'm I'm out of here. I'm going Okay, So now
Speaker 3: you go through the process, talk through, talk us through,
Speaker 3: talk our audience through.
Speaker 2: What's going through Jaydon Daniel's mind.
Speaker 3: Once he win the heis and once you have the
Speaker 3: year that you have, what's going from that point? You
Speaker 3: have the year that you have, you're the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three Heisman Trophy winner walking through from there.
Speaker 7: I mean once I heard my name, even before that point,
Speaker 7: I kind of like, after the texts in them game,
Speaker 7: I was like, man, I ain't got nothing ough for
Speaker 7: left for college. Man, I can't do it. I can't.
Speaker 7: I can't play in this Bowl game, right you know.
Speaker 7: I was like, man, I'm telling all my people's like
Speaker 7: clubs wanted me, like Malik and Brian, and I'm telling
Speaker 7: them like, man, I'm out, I can't playing this. Bogain
Speaker 7: love y'all. Uh, but it's time for me to move on.
Speaker 7: And then right there kind of really just moved out
Speaker 7: of Louisiana, moved back to California. It took like two
Speaker 7: weeks off and then after our bowl game got to work.
Speaker 2: So you started. So you go through the draft, I mean,
Speaker 2: so when did you? When did you?
Speaker 3: Because obviously, as you'll ask you, this is a lifelong
Speaker 3: dream and so now you're about to fulfill. This is
Speaker 3: not the end of one journey. It's the beginning of
Speaker 3: another journey. So what is your expectations? Are you going
Speaker 3: to be in New York? I mean, excuse me, Detroit.
Speaker 6: I'm going to Detroit.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's.
Speaker 3: Always been a lifelong dream to be there and to
Speaker 3: walk on that stage and give Roger Goodell that hug.
Speaker 6: Honestly, it hasn't.
Speaker 7: My My lifelong dream is being first round picked to
Speaker 7: hear my name. Okay, it's not about it differently. But
Speaker 7: then once you're in the process and you know you
Speaker 7: can go high, I'm like man, like everybody like man,
Speaker 7: once a life of comportunity to walk across that stage,
Speaker 7: you know, hold that jersey.
Speaker 6: So I'd like, man, I can miss out for show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one thing that I always thought about. Most
Speaker 1: of the time. You just want to get drafted. But
Speaker 1: I know players in the back of their mind, they
Speaker 1: always they always think about a fa favorite team that
Speaker 1: they always wanted to want to play for. So as
Speaker 1: a child growing up, who is your favorite team growing up?
Speaker 1: And how do you feel like your chances of playing there?
Speaker 5: You want to go?
Speaker 6: My chances are slim playing there, right, very slim.
Speaker 7: They got a QB, but growing on My favorite team
Speaker 7: is forty nine it so okay, you know they got
Speaker 7: a team, So my chances are very slim going there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they messed that up, Jane when they traded
Speaker 3: up a couple of years ago to the third Pig.
Speaker 3: Maybe they hadn't done Maybe they hadn't done that. That
Speaker 3: might have been an opportunity for you.
Speaker 6: We never know.
Speaker 3: So now now that you so, what is it? So
Speaker 3: your family's around you? Obviously your mom's gonna be there.
Speaker 3: So what what's it like to know that, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be able to take care of my mom
Speaker 3: my mom. I don't know if your mom's working or
Speaker 3: your dad's working, but you know, hey, baby got this thing.
Speaker 2: The way down.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, both my parents are still working, so it'll
Speaker 7: be able. Now everybody looking at me, so I'll be
Speaker 7: able to you know, it's they put in all the work,
Speaker 7: you know, to give me to this point and sacrifice
Speaker 7: and stuff like that, so uh be able to take
Speaker 7: care of them a little bit, not too much.
Speaker 6: You know, they still gotta work.
Speaker 7: But but you know, whenever, whenever I get the chance
Speaker 7: to take care of the man.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take care of Once I get that second contract,
Speaker 6: we can.
Speaker 3: Talk about and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me three.
Speaker 3: Years, Give me three years, just hold over three years.
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Listen, you you had an exceptional, exceptional season last year. Now,
Speaker 1: from my understanding, you played so well due to your
Speaker 1: nutrition in what you ate before games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pregame meal.
Speaker 5: Was an omelet and two two of them.
Speaker 1: Now, once you get to the NFL, will you change
Speaker 1: your routine?
Speaker 5: It's called nutrition. The concern you're gonna stay, You're gonna
Speaker 5: you're gonna stay true to yourself.
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm in between, man, I'm true to myself, like
Speaker 7: I can get away with a little bit, you know.
Speaker 6: I e fascoos still to the day, Wendy.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I'm talking about. That's why you're
Speaker 5: gonna be success. But at the next level, you heard that,
Speaker 5: You're heard it.
Speaker 6: I still I still your fasts man's man.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure talk about.
Speaker 3: But have you talked to any teams and have your
Speaker 3: trainer said, Jay, we probably need to put about ten
Speaker 3: fifteen pounds on you, not right now, but through the
Speaker 3: process over.
Speaker 2: The next shuttle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 7: Like the teams I talked to, it was like what
Speaker 7: I played last year, I was like around like two
Speaker 7: or five.
Speaker 2: So it was like, you know, we were.
Speaker 7: Just gonna put in put off weight progressively, but we
Speaker 7: ain't gonna overload you.
Speaker 2: So you know.
Speaker 6: Your play start to digress.
Speaker 3: Talk to us about the what you started out of
Speaker 3: Arizona State. Yeah, and then you go to LSU. What
Speaker 3: was your thought process of entering the portal and going
Speaker 3: to LSU and leaving Arizona State.
Speaker 6: Man, that was hard, uh, you know, just being there
Speaker 6: for three years.
Speaker 7: You know I got I got love much love for her,
Speaker 7: y'all love her, marv Ap, all those guys.
Speaker 6: So it was hard just to leave them.
Speaker 7: You know, I still today, I remember Marvels blowing my
Speaker 7: phone like come talk to me before you leave, talking
Speaker 7: about talking to her before I left.
Speaker 6: It's hard. But one thing about them, they alreays expected me.
Speaker 7: You know, they they told me if I don't got
Speaker 7: nowhere to go, I still got to go home here,
Speaker 7: so you know, to this day it was a genuine love.
Speaker 7: But transfer to the l s U. Man, honestly, what
Speaker 7: to expect. I just need a freshman to start, you know.
Speaker 7: I want to go go compete against the best.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: You know, the SEC and the boys in the South
Speaker 7: built a little different. So I wanted to go down
Speaker 7: there and play against them and play with them.
Speaker 6: And I was blessed enough to go to the l
Speaker 6: s U.
Speaker 7: L s U was an opportunity for me, and then
Speaker 7: I was able to play on the biggest stage.
Speaker 1: Was it Was it a shock once you got to
Speaker 1: the second realized the difference from playing in the PAC
Speaker 1: twelve as opposed to being in the second. Once you
Speaker 1: got there, was it not not a culture shock, but
Speaker 1: was from a from a skill perspective? Was it eye opening?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I'll just say, like the mentality you
Speaker 7: know you got. I was blessed enough to play with
Speaker 7: Lague and Brian, you know, and every day I practiced
Speaker 7: no matter who it was. Old line, d line receivers, linebackers, dbs.
Speaker 7: You know, they always talking talking crazy man. He has
Speaker 7: one thing that's one thing about elite man. He always
Speaker 7: talking crazy. No matter what he thinks, nobody could guard him.
Speaker 7: He's always open. So he got the little dog in this.
Speaker 7: I respect that. But you know, all across the board,
Speaker 7: they all got the dog in because of how they
Speaker 7: was raised. You know they was they was raised with much.
Speaker 7: They ain't have much to do but football, so uh,
Speaker 7: you know this is all they know.
Speaker 3: What. Man, you go to LSU, did you think this
Speaker 3: type of season was possible? I mean you had some
Speaker 3: I mean you had some fantastic run, you have some
Speaker 3: fantastic plads in Arizona State.
Speaker 2: But did you think this? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Man, honestly I knew.
Speaker 7: Like before I went to college, I was like, man,
Speaker 7: I want to win a high But going taking it back,
Speaker 7: going to back to this off season, I was like, man,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna win this hes.
Speaker 3: Like that was my goal.
Speaker 2: I put it.
Speaker 7: You know, we're working on the weight room. I put
Speaker 7: it up on top of the rack. You know, the
Speaker 7: strength coaches put like a little applique for me.
Speaker 2: Me and Elite.
Speaker 6: So Elite had a blend the cough out of Heisman on.
Speaker 7: So we work out and were constantly just looking at
Speaker 7: it like we had that goal set, like, man, we're
Speaker 7: trying to go get this, and then we just started balling.
Speaker 7: I mean our chemistry, just the whole offense of chemistry. Man,
Speaker 7: start hitting off sa we took off from there.
Speaker 5: That's dope.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, obviously with you going to the next level,
Speaker 1: there are some great quarterbacks going to the draft, obviously,
Speaker 1: brother brother Drake May, Caleb Williams, and it's Mike and
Speaker 1: Pennick junior incidents and other players. What do you think
Speaker 1: separate yourself from the other quarterback? Excuse me, what do
Speaker 1: you think separate yourself from the other quarterbacks in the draft?
Speaker 1: From your your your own perspective.
Speaker 7: Man, I say, uh, I mean, I can't speak for everybody,
Speaker 7: but I'm a competitor.
Speaker 6: I'm a dog man, you know.
Speaker 7: And then my s capability you know, I could you know,
Speaker 7: you give me, I could go eighty.
Speaker 6: That separates me.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: Just uh, you know, I'm getting to know those guys.
Speaker 6: I mean, I know they all got high football a fuses,
Speaker 6: but I would say, just.
Speaker 7: That dog and me like, uh, you know, this is
Speaker 7: all I know. You know, I grew up football, well,
Speaker 7: I was always doubted. You know, people doubted me to
Speaker 7: this day. So you know I take that, you know,
Speaker 7: added to the fire at the end of the day.
Speaker 7: So but other than that, man, you know, just my escapability, man,
Speaker 7: my legs, I don't know, God blessed me with us.
Speaker 6: I gotta keep using them.
Speaker 3: So how the business going? You go to these teams,
Speaker 3: you say you have up and you have thirty visits.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you take it all thirty of them.
Speaker 3: So when they get so walk out audience, out viewing
Speaker 3: audience and out listening audience through.
Speaker 2: What is it like for Jade Daniel.
Speaker 3: Let's just say, okay, you go, you went to Washington
Speaker 3: in New England, Arizona. Let's just take those three teams
Speaker 3: because they're in the top five and what is that?
Speaker 3: What are they asking you to do? They ask you
Speaker 3: to diagram play? They ask you, okay, what's this play
Speaker 3: for what you did in college? What's that process?
Speaker 7: Like? Man, it's kind of just like, you know, they
Speaker 7: want to they want to kind of introduce you to
Speaker 7: the offense. You know, see quiz you a little bit,
Speaker 7: get up and you know, do do a little catence
Speaker 7: in there. Uh, learn more about yourself. That's kind of
Speaker 7: like on those visits, they want to learn more about
Speaker 7: the person. You know, they know about the football player,
Speaker 7: but they want to learn more about the person, like
Speaker 7: your background, where you come from, you know, how was
Speaker 7: you raised, stuff like that. So that's kind of what
Speaker 7: I'll be getting. And then from there, they really want
Speaker 7: to see your football Q. Like what can you remember? Uh,
Speaker 7: it's kind of like they you know, they quiz you
Speaker 7: a little bit, so, uh, they just want to see
Speaker 7: if you're a smart potball player, especially be in a courback.
Speaker 7: You know, you got to have a high football Q.
Speaker 7: So that stuff like that that I kind of did
Speaker 7: when I was on the visits.
Speaker 5: That's dope.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not male, Kiper, I'm not male to get
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not Cleo.
Speaker 6: But I have.
Speaker 1: A epiphany that for some reason, you will end up
Speaker 1: with AP at the Raiders. Now, I don't know how
Speaker 1: they're gonna jump all the way up to number two.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I just think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. So, if you're just so happy to
Speaker 1: be a Raider, I just want to be the first
Speaker 1: one to get to Jersey. I just want to be
Speaker 1: the first one to get a j I'm gonna sign it.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put it up back here, and I'm
Speaker 1: excited for you, man, I'm excited for you.
Speaker 5: I'm excited for you.
Speaker 3: Ran.
Speaker 1: I didn't ran into you a couple of times, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know you were my son over at ASU at
Speaker 1: one point. I'm excited, man. It's gonna be really dope
Speaker 1: to see you walk across that stage.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Since since we're talking about the Raiders.
Speaker 3: AP was the DC when you was at Arizona State,
Speaker 3: and this would be an opportunity if you were for
Speaker 3: if you were they made a move because obviously they're
Speaker 3: not gonna be You're not gonna be there when they select,
Speaker 3: so they have to jump over a lot of people
Speaker 3: to select you.
Speaker 2: What would that what would you have?
Speaker 3: You have? You know what it's like, you know a
Speaker 3: p you know, you know how he is as a person,
Speaker 3: you know how he is as a coach. What would
Speaker 3: that be like to be reunited with a guy that
Speaker 3: he was with her are doing the State?
Speaker 7: I don't know how they're gonna put off, but I mean,
Speaker 7: that's above my pay grade, man, but.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it. You transformation to the quarterback, Jake.
Speaker 7: Yeah, keet me that up, hey, man, this a team
Speaker 7: man ap just as a human beings. You know, he
Speaker 7: the right he's the right coach for that, for that team.
Speaker 7: You know, just him and the intensity that it brings.
Speaker 7: You know, he challenged people. He was challenging me at eighteen.
Speaker 7: So I know, I know if.
Speaker 6: I if I go to the Raiders, I'm not saying
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go there.
Speaker 7: I want to go there, you know, I want to
Speaker 7: go wherever my name called. But if I was to
Speaker 7: go to Raiders, I know he goes as soon as
Speaker 7: I stepped, He's gonna challenge me. He don't care how
Speaker 7: high I got, none of that. You know, he's gonna
Speaker 7: challenge me every day.
Speaker 2: So have you thought about ahead?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I say, when you think about what's very
Speaker 1: important for quarterbacks, especially coming out coming out in the draft,
Speaker 1: you think about your situation at LSU, You look at
Speaker 1: your supporting cast that was around you.
Speaker 5: They make your job very easy.
Speaker 1: Elikue Neighbors and the rest of the receiving corps at
Speaker 1: number two based on again I'm not mel kiper, but
Speaker 1: they talk about Caleb Williams going first. Obviously we'd be
Speaker 1: going to the Bears. The commanders are number two and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you number two period.
Speaker 5: Look at this, Look at this your supporting cast that
Speaker 5: you have in d C.
Speaker 1: They got some dogs, John what, John Dotson, Mclaire Lauren Man, listen, boy,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna be in heaven you And I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's so imperative that you go to
Speaker 1: the right situation so you have your receiving corp. Once
Speaker 1: you got a receiving corps and they able to build
Speaker 1: around you.
Speaker 5: And you can just be you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, but it's it's gonna I'm not saying it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a breeze, but I just know I know the
Speaker 1: work you put in because it shows up on film.
Speaker 1: So the transition from college to the NFL, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2: Have you have you thought?
Speaker 3: Have you thought about the emotion that you could potentially
Speaker 3: feel when with the second pick, with the third pick
Speaker 3: in the NFL draft.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a second.
Speaker 7: I gotta I gotta, man. You know, hopefully if I
Speaker 7: look at my mama, my mama will go cry. My
Speaker 7: dad probably don't cry too, So I don't know.
Speaker 6: Maybe if I look at they might give me a
Speaker 6: little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're gonna cry. You're gonna cry, You're gonna be,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be, You're gonna be a meme. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be a meme.
Speaker 2: That's a lifetime. Man.
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable, Jane, much success, man. Thank you for jumping
Speaker 3: on with us tonight. We greatly greatly appreciate it. Obviously,
Speaker 3: doing what we do, we're gonna be playing, paying very
Speaker 3: close attention to your career. Tell your family congratulations and
Speaker 3: much success moving forward.
Speaker 5: J good to see you. I love you where I
Speaker 5: congratulations again, man.
Speaker 3: Gentlemen, awesome man. That's unbelievable. Man, that's uh an opportunity.
Speaker 3: Uh An AFC scout told NFL dot com if I
Speaker 3: was picking, I would select Jalen Daniels number one better athlete,
Speaker 3: and I think he loves football more. I believe that
Speaker 3: he's just a better fing player and I think he's
Speaker 3: on the rise. And Caleb is kind of going lateral.
Speaker 3: Do you agree or disagree with Joe?
Speaker 5: I mean, I understand what he's saying. I understand what
Speaker 5: he's saying.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the the ooh, that's that's that's a tough one
Speaker 1: there when you say the better athlete.
Speaker 5: I think both are very very good dual threat quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Caleb being able to extend plays uh outside of
Speaker 1: the norm of the play call and what's called it
Speaker 1: when it doesn't when it when it doesn't play out
Speaker 1: the way that exit and nose says she plays out.
Speaker 1: Both of them are very good at extending plays, making
Speaker 1: plays with their arm, and making plays with their legs.
Speaker 1: I think obviously Jayden Daniels having the edge obviously with
Speaker 1: the speed and being able to being a little bit
Speaker 1: more fast, a little bit more elusive as opposed to
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. I understand what that scout or coach is saying.
Speaker 5: Either way. I think it's a win win either way
Speaker 5: you go, based on the teams.
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 1: So, I'm excited for Young bull Man. I can't I
Speaker 1: can't wait, I can't wait.
Speaker 5: I just want him to.
Speaker 1: Go to the right situation. Young, You know how important
Speaker 1: that is. I don't want a situation like. I love
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, I love what he was able to do
Speaker 1: in Alabama, but not having the supporting cast or the
Speaker 1: type of caliber players around you as opposed to when
Speaker 1: you're in Alabama and you come to the NFL, and
Speaker 1: now you look what you got to deal with.
Speaker 5: Now you're starting from scratch, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping over in Carolina they do right by
Speaker 1: that young fellow man and get him the pieces he
Speaker 1: needs to succeed like he did in college. And also,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're going when you getting picked that early,
Speaker 1: when you're getting picked that early, it can be it
Speaker 1: can be very difficult. I just don't want to see
Speaker 1: that that happen. But obviously I look at the team.
Speaker 1: I look at the receivers obviously that were acquired by
Speaker 1: the Bears and what they have, and also the receiving
Speaker 1: court that they have over at the commanders who were
Speaker 1: picking that too. So either way it goes. I don't
Speaker 1: know how the drafts is gonna go, but I know
Speaker 1: he's gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I definitely think you need to go
Speaker 3: somewhere offensive line. You need somebody to protect you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because you remember, you know David Carr, he got sacked
Speaker 3: seventy six times and it ruined him.
Speaker 2: You remember that, Yeah, I do remember that. I do.
Speaker 2: I do remember that.
Speaker 5: It wasn't that the most sacks ever? Uh huh.
Speaker 3: And you got that in the rookie and they're talking about, well, man,
Speaker 3: why you why you flinching in the pocket?
Speaker 2: What the hell you mean? Meanwhy man?
Speaker 3: You're gonna hear me everywhere at the bottom of my
Speaker 3: feet and you go talking about I'm flinching or I'm
Speaker 3: seeing things.
Speaker 5: No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that mentally, mentally, especially at the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: that can be absolutely demoralizing, absolutely demoralizing, and can mess
Speaker 1: and can mess up with your head, especially with your
Speaker 1: confidence when as a rookie coming in and getting just
Speaker 1: hit around like that like a ping pong ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not Yeah, it's a I like him and I agree.
Speaker 3: You know what, That's one of the things if I'm
Speaker 3: a scout, I got to know how much you love football.
Speaker 3: You gotta love it. I mean, I mean, look, I understand,
Speaker 3: but it's got to be a love. You gotta have
Speaker 3: a burning desire, you know. You know, I like it,
Speaker 3: But I also like to do this.
Speaker 2: I like that. I'm telling you, Ojoe. You look at
Speaker 2: the guys that have success.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and watch how they talk about the game of football, right,
Speaker 3: your quarterbacks, your running backs, your wide receivers, your great
Speaker 3: defensive players. Look how they talk about the game of
Speaker 3: football right other than eating and breathing. That's how important
Speaker 3: it is to it and it needs to be that
Speaker 3: right now. Obviously, as you starting, you look and you
Speaker 3: see once Brady got to a certain point, but this
Speaker 3: was probably like the last through last three or four
Speaker 3: years of his career where all of a sudden he
Speaker 3: didn't come to OTAs he didn't he realized that, damn, damn.
Speaker 2: V you seven.
Speaker 3: I just had I thought I had you a couple
Speaker 3: of months of me and your mama just said I
Speaker 3: was just cutting the cord at the hospital, and you
Speaker 3: just big and and and being and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3: He started to realize that the time had passed him.
Speaker 3: And that's what happens when you when you're a football
Speaker 3: player or you're a coach, you have kids.
Speaker 2: One day, the next day.
Speaker 3: You're like, honey, we got to go to graduation, graduating
Speaker 3: high school and she's graduating high school and you damn
Speaker 3: thear mist everything there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you do sacrifice. It's a sh it's a shit.
Speaker 5: It's a huge sacrifice.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this early on one of
Speaker 1: the shows, and I talked about why I even started
Speaker 1: having kids again because I missed out on everything there
Speaker 1: there there is room for me to improve as a
Speaker 1: father based on times I missed when I was younger,
Speaker 1: because I had the sacrifice.
Speaker 5: I ate my ate, slept, breathe.
Speaker 1: And ship football. You have to season like I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't even my off season. I took maybe what
Speaker 1: three weeks a month at best.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: So all my kids knew for me from my standpoint,
Speaker 1: was just being there financially. I mean, obviously I was there,
Speaker 1: I was present, but unk I was so locked in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you missed.
Speaker 5: I missed a lot of stuff. Man, I missed a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: So I really wanted to start over so I could
Speaker 1: understand what it feels like to be a full time
Speaker 1: father and do it right this time, the right way.
Speaker 2: And you see what he said.
Speaker 3: He he talked about how he put that, I want
Speaker 3: to win the Heisman, he said, wanted to win the Heisman.
Speaker 3: Now over here, from what we talked about last night,
Speaker 3: you're willing.
Speaker 5: To sacrifice to get there.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, you got that heisman. Now what's the goals
Speaker 3: for the NFL? Okay, you're gonna get drafted. You don't
Speaker 3: have no choice where you go, right, you're telling hey,
Speaker 3: you you put yourself in position, you can go anywhere.
Speaker 3: It seems like, uh uh, Chicago is a four gone conclusion.
Speaker 3: Anything can happen, O Joe, But it seems like a
Speaker 3: four gold conclusion. They've settled on Caleb Williams. So now
Speaker 3: it looks like you're not going past three. You're either
Speaker 3: going to the commanders at two or you're going to
Speaker 3: the patriots at three. You're not going any further than that.
Speaker 3: And I believe he's gonna go too, to the commanders
Speaker 3: because why would I trade? Why would I trade? Why
Speaker 3: would I trade to get more draft capital in the
Speaker 3: hopes of there's a quarterback coming out in the next
Speaker 3: three to four, two to three years that would give
Speaker 3: me the value that I got with Jayden Daniels. So
Speaker 3: with that being said, I believe I believe he goes
Speaker 3: to the command to the commanders at two. Now, what's
Speaker 3: your goals right now? What are you willing to sacrifice
Speaker 3: to get them? Because the greater the goal, the greater
Speaker 3: the sacrifice must.
Speaker 5: Vice has to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you see any any any chance the
Speaker 1: raiders finding a way to get from eighteen to two
Speaker 1: that we all know, right, eighteen to two, that they
Speaker 1: are eighteen, right, pick eighteen or no?
Speaker 5: I'm i chripping.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't even know what pick they are. But is
Speaker 5: it any possible way?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 3: The Raiders no, oh, Joe, huh thirteen? Well think about it.
Speaker 3: I think the forty nine ers were at twelve and
Speaker 3: moved to three.
Speaker 2: And they gave up three. It's possible they.
Speaker 3: Gave up three first rounders. That was three years ago.
Speaker 3: So what's the going rate now? Four first rounders, three
Speaker 3: first rounders, three second rounders.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Raiders say, hey, listen for Jane Daniels,
Speaker 1: We'll give you three first round picks.
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
Speaker 5: I don't think the commands are turning that down.
Speaker 3: Why if you need a quarterback? Why why would I
Speaker 3: why would I get? Why would why would I give
Speaker 3: you my ox?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 3: What did they say when you're on the airplane, if
Speaker 3: the plane going down? What did they say, put your
Speaker 3: oxyen your mask on first, before you assist somebody. So
Speaker 3: you mean to tell me you won't be to help
Speaker 3: somebody out before I've died.
Speaker 5: Huh? Listen that that then three first round picks that
Speaker 5: I understand, don't.
Speaker 2: Joe, I need a quarterback, right?
Speaker 5: I want to see with the Raiders, that's all.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: When you on Spirit and they tell you the plane,
Speaker 3: they tell you about the oxyt your mask, what do
Speaker 3: they say? Do they say assist somebody or do they
Speaker 3: say put your mask on first before you assist somebody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, put your mask on first before you assist somebody.
Speaker 2: So the other word, Washington needs a quarterback.
Speaker 3: But you know what, Raiders, since y'all gonna give me
Speaker 3: this great package, I will go ahead and help y'all.
Speaker 3: I will help y'all get back to the playoffs and
Speaker 3: get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that, o'to.
Speaker 5: I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: I just think I'm trying to see. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: see Jaden throwing a DeVante Adams.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 5: That's all. And that's all.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure, But do you.
Speaker 3: Understand how long it's been the Commander, I mean the Commanders,
Speaker 3: the old team.
Speaker 2: That's a proud franchise. They got three super.
Speaker 3: Bowl win yeah yeah, and now they've got you know,
Speaker 3: they've gotten the old regime out. It's a uh Harris.
Speaker 3: They want to win Yeah, they're not giving that. They're
Speaker 3: not giving that pick up. All right, a list because
Speaker 3: guess what I give that pick up? You think Buffalo
Speaker 3: kicking themselves because guess what Buffalo had Patrick mahone could
Speaker 3: have had Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Yeah, see now people now,
Speaker 3: people in Buffalo looking at it, even though they got
Speaker 3: Josh Josh Josh Allen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ain't no slapsh now.
Speaker 3: But that they say, hold on that ma got three
Speaker 3: super Bowls in four years though five years he got
Speaker 3: two MVPs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how you.
Speaker 3: How you and you mess around and you let you
Speaker 3: trade him to the Raiders, and the Raiders and his
Speaker 3: man mess ride and go win super Bowls?
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, Josh Harris, go find out in times.
Speaker 3: First of all, in order to do a trade like that,
Speaker 3: your owner has to sign off on it. I don't
Speaker 3: believe that own on the sign I don't believe Josh
Speaker 3: Harris will sign off on it.
Speaker 1: No hem, I mean, obviously, Josh Josh Harris understanding how
Speaker 1: important it is to have a quarterback before you can
Speaker 1: do anything else. You can't build nothing until you get
Speaker 1: a goddamn quarterback. And Jaydon Daniels sitting at number two
Speaker 1: is your franchise quarterback for the next decade.
Speaker 5: Plus, exactly I could tell you.
Speaker 2: I could tell you that exactly, exactly