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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, Alisa Donovan here. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: know who I am, but maybe you do. You might

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Speaker 2: know me from Clueless or another little show called Sabrina

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Speaker 2: the Teenage Witch. But if you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 2: you probably know me as ginger Lo Monica from Beverly

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Speaker 2: Hills nine o two one zero, who basically did everything

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Speaker 2: bad under the sun, from smoking weed, sleeping with everyone,

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Speaker 2: I stole things. I mean, I don't even know where.

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Speaker 2: If I had half of the gumption and balls of

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Speaker 2: ginger Lomnica, I'd probably have a really different life today. Anyhow.

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Speaker 2: So I am so excited to be here because as

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Speaker 2: I am interviewing a very dear friend who I have

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Speaker 2: known for twenty no thirty, let's not get crazy, almost thirty.

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Speaker 2: Well let's see if Clueless is thirty years old shortly

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Speaker 2: after so in the high twenties, and we work together

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Speaker 2: on Sabring of the Teenage Witch. And you probably know

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Speaker 2: that it is Melissa Joan Hart, and she has been

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Speaker 2: famous for her whole life pretty much, and I always

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Speaker 2: call her a unicorn because she is one of the

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Speaker 2: most down to earth kindest, most generous, like team spirited

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Speaker 2: person that I've probably perhaps ever worked with in my career. So, hi, welcome.

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Speaker 3: You are going to make me cry stop it all

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Speaker 3: time out Ginger Lemnica.

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Speaker 2: I was that her name?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, that is the most not too no

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Speaker 3: name I've ever heard. Yes, it is love that and

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Speaker 3: I love that you got to do all those things

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Speaker 3: because I've never gotten to do any of those things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really the only time I think that. I

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've always played sort of you know, bitchy people,

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Speaker 2: but she was like on the next she was next level.

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Speaker 1: She was I gotta go back and watch it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So thank you so much. So everybody knows that.

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Speaker 2: I literally called Melissa maybe five minutes ago and was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: will you do this? Are you available to chat today?

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Speaker 2: So I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny because I was like, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: told you no, because I was like I have been

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Speaker 3: on the longest podcast like hiatus, because I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm done. I can't do these anymore, Like yeah, they

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Speaker 3: take too much time. You know, they're like I just

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Speaker 3: keep talking, I just keep blabbing, and you I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know only for you, basically only for you.

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Speaker 1: When I come out of the woodwork and like be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll use this as an exercise of how to

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Speaker 2: you know, speak properly in public and you know, be

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Speaker 2: diplomat and all of those things.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: I could be conciping and not give too many sound

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Speaker 3: bites that could be used out of context, because I

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Speaker 3: seem to do that a lot, and then I get

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Speaker 3: in trouble and people call me out on like why

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Speaker 3: did you say that, And I'm like, oh, I was

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Speaker 3: just chatting with a friend.

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Speaker 1: It's hard.

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Speaker 2: Well, so this was actually going to be one of

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Speaker 2: my questions about how well. First of all, we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about the movie that you have coming out

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Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks, but before we get there,

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Speaker 2: one of the things that I was going to ask

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Speaker 2: in comparison to like in the nineties and earlier, how

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Speaker 2: people had access but not quite as much. So it

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Speaker 2: was wonderful, yes, right, and I'm wondering if you feel

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Speaker 2: like a different kind of pressure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think we all all of us

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Speaker 3: like we're the one what do they call it, bridge

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Speaker 3: you know, to not have it was.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because as actors, like we're just we just

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Speaker 3: And so that's what social media does for us and

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Speaker 3: give us constant attention, whether it's good or bad, you know,

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Speaker 3: and people that want attention want good or bad.

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Speaker 1: They don't care what kind. They just want attention in

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Speaker 3: Cases, not always, but you know, I feel like we

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Speaker 1: You go on all the talk shows, and you change

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Speaker 1: your clothes million times, and.

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Speaker 3: You get up at two am and la la, and

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Speaker 3: and you could be like, hiatus, I'm done until I

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Speaker 1: So it's sort of these.

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Speaker 3: Controlled little bursts of when you were available and when

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Speaker 3: Instagram followers haven't grown in like five years.

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Speaker 1: I'm turning fifty next year.

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Speaker 3: I want to be like five million by fifty, but

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Speaker 3: I'm never going at like one point eight for like

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Speaker 2: That's still very strong. I mean, I feel like there's

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Speaker 2: that difference of you can't do anything without someone having

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Speaker 2: more it's like that thing of which is sort of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can really like when politics cause these days,

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Speaker 3: like the problem I think is that politics is getting involved.

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Speaker 1: We never talked about politics or religion.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, you might say what religion you were, celebrate

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Speaker 3: now it's like it's it's gotten to where people judge

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Speaker 3: I I uh, I just and it's such a job,

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Speaker 3: Like you know, how to post something. I could say

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Speaker 2: She never liked blue ever, I knew that they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And like that must mean that you like auburn, and

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Speaker 3: that must mean that you think that Trump is something

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Speaker 2: All these things, right, I just said I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Like orange, Like it doesn't even matter, Like what are

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Speaker 1: Hall? And you hate cool weather and you hate, yeahpkins, she.

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Speaker 1: A witch on Yeah, she has to like range, you know.

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Speaker 1: Or so it's so it can be so benign and

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Speaker 2: Like it is like a second career. I really do

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Speaker 3: Now there's like a fine line too, between like having

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Speaker 3: fun stuff. But the people are like, how come you're

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Speaker 3: not using your platform.

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Speaker 1: With your voice you have you can So I really

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Speaker 1: had to think about that. I turned it off Instagram

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Speaker 1: for about four months. It was what all we were doing?

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Speaker 1: You did? Yeah? Right, I like deleted it. My sister

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Speaker 3: I was like, hey, can you post this picture?

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Speaker 3: It was like really nice, and I really want to

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Speaker 2: So tell us, I know you are passionate about a

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Speaker 2: couple of charities that you really you know, we're oftentimes

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Speaker 2: for you, a couple of them are really very close

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Speaker 2: work surrounding them, So tell us what those Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that gets tricky too though, because it's like, I

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Speaker 1: the things too. But then you're like one of my

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Speaker 1: friends once said, well, you're diluting what you could be

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Speaker 1: I bad by doing all these chearday.

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Speaker 2: Like, no wonder we're all up at night, no one sleeps.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, did I choose the wrong charity? No?

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Speaker 3: But like I mean, I have things from an aquarium

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Speaker 3: on the board of in Connecticut to I'm actually going

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Speaker 3: to One of my favorites is operation shower. So I'm

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Speaker 3: going to be hosting a mother's Uh we like that.

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Speaker 3: It's it's from military wives. It's like a baby shower

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Speaker 3: they throw in all these different cities near a base.

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Speaker 3: They'll throw a baby shower for the military wives and

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Speaker 3: they'll get the strollers and car seats and diapers and

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Speaker 3: like all these great brands like support it. And it's

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Speaker 3: kind of I think it's an offshoot of the USO.

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Speaker 3: But it's not really the USO. It's sort of like

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Speaker 3: allowed in the places where USO is allowed. So I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go host their big gala on this year. It's

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Speaker 2: I love this. It's so perfect for you.

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Speaker 1: And those women are so stoic.

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Speaker 3: They're all pregnant or having had brand new babies because

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Speaker 3: This play with William Hurt and while I was doing that,

440
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 3: they were we were workshopping this other thing, and it

441
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,919
Speaker 3: was me on a bicycle stationary bicycle. They like propped

442
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: up my bike and I was riding it and I

443
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 3: did this whole monologue on a bike. And that was

444
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 3: the workshop. Then they brought it to Broadway and we

445
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 3: did it. But he had at that point Peter Hedges

446
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 3: had written this whole long. It was like the first

447
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 3: one was like five minutes. The workshop, My part ended

448
00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 3: up being about it supposed to be thirty minutes, but

449
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 3: I so fast ended up being twenty minutes on stage and.

450
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 1: It was a monologue. So I'm on stage.

451
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 3: It's about a little girl who gets her period and

452
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 3: doesn't know what to do, so she's I think I

453
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 3: was like eleven, and so I think the person was

454
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 3: the It's the first time I probably ever played up,

455
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 3: or the only time I've ever played up.

456
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, in age. So I was doing this play. I'm

457
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: on stage. I'm like talking on.

458
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 3: The phone to my friend. I'm kissing the pillow, I'm

459
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 3: jumping up and dancing. I am woman talking about how

460
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: I shoved a bunch of isssues up there because I

461
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 3: don't know what else to do.

462
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 1: My mom's not home.

463
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: Oh oh my god.

464
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: So it's like this really fun, great play and it

465
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: goes out with me singing I am Woman, jumping up

466
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 3: and down a couch, and then it go and I'm

467
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 3: on the cover of the playbill. Then I go off

468
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,239
Speaker 3: and these two women get on and they're like in

469
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 3: a car and you find out that the redhead in

470
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 3: the in the play has a husband who has no arms,

471
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 3: no legs, is blind and death like basically like oh

472
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 3: my god, doesn't really have a lot of body parts.

473
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: And the other woman is like why is that? And

474
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: she finds out she was sexually abused by her father

475
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 1: on the day she got her period, started being sexually abuseable.

476
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 2: So, my god, so it becomes.

477
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 3: This dark like it goes from like this fun, joyful

478
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 3: thing to like this dark place of this like journey

479
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 3: of this woman. This one woman's being abused and the

480
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 3: other woman can tell and she's like, well, this is

481
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: why I married my husband.

482
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Was this a workshop play? Like what

483
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: what happened?

484
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: It was a play on the in the players theater.

485
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 3: So when we went off stage, Ruthless came on with

486
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 3: Arabel Bundy and Britney Spears, right, So so small, small

487
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: downtown theater in downtown Manhattan. So in the in the

488
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 3: off Broadway. Yeah yeah, and uh yeah, So I did that.

489
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: And so while I'm doing that, this is the weirdest thing.

490
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: So I'm my agents are I didn't know this, but

491
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: my agents are like pushing for me to.

492
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: Audition for Clarissa.

493
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: And Clarissa was monologues like the monologues delivered breaking the

494
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: fourth wall, which is what I was doing every night

495
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 3: on stage. And the producer, I guess took his I

496
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: think I think this is correct, took his animal, his

497
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 3: dog or whatever to a vet, and the vet had

498
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: a new uh rescue that he found the night before, and.

499
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: He said, oh, what'd you name it? And he said,

500
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: I named it Valerie, which was the name of my character.

501
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: And he said, well, why do you name it Valerie?

502
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 1: He goes, well, I went to see this play last

503
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: night and this little girl was really impressive. So I

504
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: named the dog Valerie. And he goes, oh, that's the

505
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: little girl.

506
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 3: They keep trying to get to audition from my show way,

507
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: and so he.

508
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: Goes, should I get her? And the VET was like, yes,

509
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: please get her for your show. So he auditions me once,

510
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: auditions me twice, and still can't like wrap his head

511
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: around the fact that I'm blonde.

512
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 3: But he likes me. So third audition was like a

513
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: sit down chat.

514
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: I think.

515
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: I don't think I really read the lines. It was

516
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 3: more of a sit down chat. And he says to me, so,

517
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: do you like new kids on the block And I went, eh,

518
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: I hate them. And I went, oh, my god, this

519
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: guy works in the industry. He's probably I mean, look,

520
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 3: I'm like eleven or twelve, right, So I'm like that

521
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: was the worst. Like I did not control myself when

522
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 3: I when I gagged and like had the ick as

523
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: the kid says, but I was like, he probably knows them,

524
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: He's probably one of their uncles.

525
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: That was the stupidest thing. I definitely didn't get this.

526
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: Audition, like he's not going to hire me now, And

527
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 3: he goes, well, who do you like? And I said, well,

528
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: I like they might be giants and he was like

529
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 3: and I and like at school, I'm being endlessly teased

530
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: for my music choices. My war group, like Calista Flockhart

531
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: was dressing me and like funky East Village kind of stuff,

532
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: and everyone back in.

533
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: Preppy Long Island was like, what are you wearing? Why

534
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: is your hair red?

535
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: Why are you they might be giants? Producers like yeah,

536
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: like I want her, And so I got the job.

537
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: So and then I was like, ooh, do I want

538
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: to be.

539
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: Six or do I like the best? This is like

540
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: the best example of how important it is to be

541
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: who you are, Like all actors, you know, especially young actors,

542
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: are trying to be somebody out there, trying to like

543
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: sort of compare themselves to other people and try to

544
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: be like the waiting room. Yeah, I see this. I

545
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: want to be like that. I want to do and

546
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: really always it is about being an individual and being

547
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: exactly who you are, and if you're the right person

548
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: for the part, you're getting the job, you know, and

549
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: there are all sorts of other weird factors that we

550
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: can't control, but that is so ideal and.

551
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: That's it really did teach me that lesson.

552
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: And I mean growing up playing Clarissa, a character who

553
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 3: was a nonconformant, like a true nonconformist, like I'm being

554
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: styled and written like the writing was being done by

555
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: people that would go on to write write some of

556
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: the biggest shows on television. They you know, the Clarissa

557
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 3: writers went on to write Friends, to be the showrunners

558
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: of Friends the Office.

559
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: One of them went wrote The Games.

560
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 3: Like Susanne Collins went and wrote the Hunger Games after

561
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: you know, he wrote a few episodes of Clarissa, but

562
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: she wasn't one of our staff writers. But you know,

563
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: so you're you're getting all this amazing writing. I also

564
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: have these style gurus that are like, I mean, this

565
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 3: is pre sex in the City and things like the

566
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: style was insane and people like really took to it.

567
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 3: Parents hated it, kids loved it. Like I have parents

568
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 3: coming up to me going thanks a lot. I bought

569
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 3: my my daughter a fifty dollar pair of jeans and

570
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: she cut them and painted on them, and I was.

571
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: Now my fault, I'm a child, Control your kid? What

572
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: do you want to tell you?

573
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was really funny, you know, it was

574
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: a really fun show, and it really taught me that

575
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: I can be myself. And I you know, this is

576
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: like in middle school when like meat girl stuff is

577
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: just starting to happen.

578
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: Well, what a gift, right, because that period of life

579
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: my daughter's going through it right now, is so challenging

580
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: and there is just like no way to very little

581
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: that we can do as parents to sort of help

582
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: except to just love them and remind you that you're

583
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: doing that you'll get through this, et cetera. So what

584
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: a gift to be able to have that actual place

585
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: to go to express yourself and be you know, respected

586
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: for it and appreciate it.

587
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: And well, and I'm filming in Orlando at Nickelodeon Studios

588
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: and I'm away from like my family.

589
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: I had to oh that was in you sad that

590
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: in Orlando, in.

591
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: Orlando at Universal Studios, Orlando, So Nicolo, that's where Nick

592
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 3: Loving Studios was headquartered at the time, and and so

593
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: we you know, I'm on one hand in this preppy

594
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 3: junior high where I don't fit in, and then on

595
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: the other hand, I'm in Orlando on a sound stage

596
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: where I'm number one on the call sheet, and if

597
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: I asked for pretzels, they get me pretzels, but nobody

598
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: cares what I'm wearing. I literally would take clothes from

599
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: the Electric guys and be like, can I have that shirt?

600
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: And they were like sure, and they'd give me like

601
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: these huge, baggy shirts and I wear them with leggings

602
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: and combat boots, and nobody made fun of me for

603
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 3: wearing like a big old boy's shirt, you know, Like these.

604
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: Guys were like three hundred pounds, and they'd be like,

605
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: here's your here's my shirt. I'm like, thank you. It

606
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: was like, oh gosh, what does he call it now?

607
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: His pump pump fit, right, like the big pump fit,

608
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: kind of like working out stuff. And I'm like, let

609
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: me wear your clothes. Can I have your clothes? And

610
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: so it was like, you know, and they were really

611
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: all cool to me. They were like as long as

612
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: I was nice to them, they didn't care what music

613
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: I listened to or what I was wearing. If I

614
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 3: was nice to people, they wanted to hang out with me, right,

615
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my gosh, if I'm just

616
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: nice to people.

617
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: Again, Unicorn, You're the only person that would have that

618
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: response where I'm the center of attention. I'm doing this

619
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: whole thing, and I'm thinking, oh, I just have to

620
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: be nice to people, and I can express my like

621
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: this is you are like the exam the right example

622
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: of how to do it.

623
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Thanks.

624
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: Well, those guys they protected me too, like that crew,

625
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: Like you know, it was a lot of guys, and

626
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: they were a little bit older than me. They were

627
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: all in like their early twenties, and so I had

628
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: crushes on all of them.

629
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: But they took good.

630
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: Care of me, like yeah, yeah, yeah, And.

631
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: That whole Nickelodeon thing came out recently. This is gonna

632
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: be a little not salacious, but like when that Nickelodeon

633
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: thing came out recently about kind of the horrors that happened, Yeah,

634
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: on some shows at Nickelodeon. That was not my experience

635
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: because I was protected by my crew, like my guys. Yeah,

636
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 3: and I have pictures where, you know, they're all having

637
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: drinks around me, and I'm like in a bathing suit

638
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: because I've been rolling around in the sprinklers at an

639
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: apartment complex and they're all drinking beers or whatever.

640
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: But I'd be like, I want a beer. I want

641
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: a beer. I want a beer. At this point, I'm like,

642
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen, I want a beer. Give me a beer.

643
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, no, we're not.

644
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 3: Giving you a beer because we'll get fired tomorrow'm I

645
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: and thank God for them, like, thank God for them.

646
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm not letting me because I didn't really want to drink.

647
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: I just wanted to hang with the.

648
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: Cool sure that you wanted to like, yeah, be It was.

649
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: Like, I just want to hold it. Can I just

650
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: hold it? Like it's disgusting, But I just want to

651
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: hold the beer because I just feel cool because I

652
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: want to hang with you guys. But they were like, no,

653
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: we don't want to get fired. Stop it. Let's go

654
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: roll in the sprinklers. We'll see you later.

655
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, there is something, And again I

656
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: think this is about your spirit from the inside out,

657
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: because Sabrito was very similar where I felt like I

658
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: felt they I felt very protected there as well, But

659
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: for it was very clear how much everybody really loved

660
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: you and looked after you. You know, where it felt

661
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: like it was a family and where they were and

662
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't. It just was very genuine, you know, and

663
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: I trust them all.

664
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: Like there was times when I was gonna like there's

665
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: times when I had the flu and I had to

666
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: be my own evil twin on a volcano edge in

667
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: the middle of the tank and Paramount and I'm like,

668
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: if I climb up there and I pass out from

669
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: the heat because I'm puking so much. I was like,

670
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: Phil Perry, can you guys get behind me and catch

671
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: me if I fall? You know, when I trust these guys,

672
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: like catch me if I fall fifty feet?

673
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: Right, we don't know, like we got I mean, that's

674
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: like legit trust. Yeah, that is So did you ever

675
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: on Sabrina? Did you ever have any because at that

676
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 2: point you started directing episodes and did you have a

677
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: producing credit to on that in Sabrina?

678
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: On Sabrina, yes, because we found the we found the

679
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: comic strip, we found the Archie comic.

680
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: Did you ever butt heads with people creatively? Like did

681
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: you ever have a thing? Were there?

682
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: And because I always think and people don't do this

683
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: I've learned, especially recently. People don't always do this, but

684
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I always find it's my job as an actor. If

685
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: someone writes it, I'm delivering what they wrote.

686
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like and Onliss, I learned that I had to

687
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: make it work right.

688
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I had.

689
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: I could not drift away from the script on Clarissa

690
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: and I, and if I did, I couldn't remember. I

691
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: couldn't get myself back on track if I veered off

692
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: for a word or two. So I had to memorize

693
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: it as written. And I always thought it's my job

694
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: to do that. It's not my job to rewrite it.

695
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: That's the writers. The writer's job is to write it.

696
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: It's my job to perform it. If it doesn't make sense, yeah,

697
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: I'll go and talk to them and be like, hey,

698
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: this isn't really lining up, and like, what do we

699
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: need to do here? There was one episode you were

700
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: in would probably be the only time I can say, well,

701
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: there was one episode where I was stuck in my

702
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: own bad mood and it was so like, this was

703
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: the first time and actually one of ours. I hate

704
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: it because one of our directors from Clarissa was directing

705
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: and I wanted her to direct so bad, but I

706
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: was in a terrible mood and the episode came out

707
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: not great and she never got invited back, which I

708
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: blame on myself because I couldn't figure out if I

709
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: was in a bad mood because the character was in

710
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: bad mood, Like I didn't know if art was imitating

711
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: life or life isn't Like, am I in a bad

712
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: mood and it's influencing.

713
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: The show or shadowing on me? Like?

714
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: Right?

715
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: So that was one episode that I remember having a

716
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: tough time with.

717
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: And then there was one, Yeah, what about the one

718
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: that I was in?

719
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: The one that you were in was Florida. The Florida

720
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: one for sorry I say it with my New York accent,

721
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: everyone makes fun of me. The Florida Christmas episode where

722
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: uh Soley's character goes to Roxy goes to meet her mom.

723
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh right, Angels was in it. I was directing it,

724
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: and we had it was a really for some reason,

725
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: that script just didn't work right.

726
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember that. I very much remember that

727
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: episode sort of as in a general sense, and I

728
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: remember Kate was the mom. I also feel like I

729
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: had just gotten over some wicked flu or something, so

730
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: I was like not one hundred percent, but what did

731
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: so you felt like that.

732
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: I remember it reading it and then rehearsing it and

733
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: being like, there's nothing great. This isn't like a Christmas

734
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: like oh, like, there's no like magical moment or beautiful

735
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: thing coming out of it.

736
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: Very dull, and I couldn't figure out how to.

737
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: Judge it up as the director, so I kept trying

738
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: to work with the writers and then like the look

739
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: of it. And I don't know if you remember, but Carrie,

740
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: who was my assistant at the time, and all the carrollers.

741
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: I ended up having the carrollers like every time a

742
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: door open, they'd be like.

743
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and they'd.

744
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: Be like like it was kind of written in there,

745
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: but like I think we added more to make it

746
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: more spicy and make it more a joke.

747
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: And we kept playing it around with that stuff. But

748
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: the very end, when she and her mom, I guess,

749
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: Sabrina makes the pond for the pool freeze so they

750
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: can ice skate, like some old memory to ice skate,

751
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: But nobody could figure out how this pond should look.

752
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: And it was literally as we're shooting it.

753
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: Cindy, who was like set decorator, I'm like I need

754
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: you to get a push broom and push every snowflake

755
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: you can find around the edge, and I need a garland,

756
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: and I need all four carrollers in the.

757
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: Scene, and they all have to stand around the edge

758
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: so we know that it's a pool. Because right so.

759
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: Leigh and Kate had to wear roller blades, and I remember,

760
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: you know, I remember Ken and my mother Paula, the

761
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: other executive producer and Ken Cooker producer, both saying, you

762
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: can't do it like this.

763
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: You can't have the camera up high. I'm like, I

764
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: can't shoot them from below. That's like, that's my Christmas scene.

765
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big wide you know. I want

766
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: some scope here. I want to see the Christmas scene.

767
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: So we decorated the whole set.

768
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: We made it look like a pool with all this

769
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: snowflake that we made like look like ice on the

770
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: edge with the garland, and then they're skating in front

771
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: of it.

772
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: So I just cut their feet off. But we had

773
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: a high angle and I had the carollers stand in

774
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: almost a semicircle, so it looked like the edge of

775
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: a pool. And basically this and then we got the

776
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: end A Happy New Year, and I was like yes,

777
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: and I wanted it to fade to black, just like

778
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: an old like Carol Brunette show or something where it's

779
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: like all the lights go out, the spotlights on them,

780
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: and then it just goes dark. Oh and then that's

781
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: what and then the Carollers then the light comes up

782
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: on the like I think it was like Muppet Show

783
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: or something that I took inspiration from, where it's like

784
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: you go from that scene and you pan left and

785
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: you see the carolers and like.

786
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: And a happy I totally remember that we need we

787
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: need to buy yes, and because like you know, we

788
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: all know that the Christmas episodes, like there is a

789
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: vibe that there has to be to them, and it's

790
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: like something that audience members are really like chill.

791
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, this is missing that. So

792
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: I was able to I was trying to explain it

793
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: to people though sometimes like and even Ken and my mom,

794
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: who usually understood what I was trying to say. I

795
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: was like, just watch, just watch it, like we don't

796
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: have time for this, you just have to shoot it.

797
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's got.

798
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: To be right, like I don't have time.

799
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: Yes, But I was so happy because it actually worked

800
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes you do those things you're like,

801
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: but this was like, yeah, it worked, So I was

802
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: really helpy.

803
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: This is a great segue to talk about the movie

804
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: that you have that's coming out. Yeah, so tell me

805
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: about Marry Little X. Miss I happened to know a

806
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: couple of people in this movie. I think you do,

807
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: and tell me, tell me how it came to you,

808
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: why you wanted to make it, tell me all the things.

809
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: Well, you remember Holly Hester, one of our brilliant writers

810
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: on Sabrina I Do.

811
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: She sent us a script, she said, I have this

812
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Christmas movie. We loved it.

813
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: We sent it to Netflix. Netflix was like, we love it,

814
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: let's do it. It took a long time to put

815
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: on his feet, just rewrites and getting it right and

816
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: who are we going to cast and who's going to

817
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: direct it and all the little pieces coming together. Took

818
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: a really long time, but we have this wonderful movie.

819
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: Now we have this fantastic cast.

820
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: I literally I always do these little grids of like

821
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: my photos of like who I think the cast should be,

822
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: like a dream board, and this whole dream board came

823
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: to life, Like it was gosh, that's amazing, so insane.

824
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: So your buddy Alicia Silverstone came on.

825
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: Yes, So I feel like I really I'm sort of

826
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: an EP because I.

827
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: Tell you because I called you to get to her.

828
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: Well, because you know, sometimes in this industry we have

829
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: an idea of someone. I was like, I know that

830
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: her agents might read it and go, eh, we're not

831
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: going to have her do a Christmas movie.

832
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: But I figured if I called you talked to her.

833
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: Such a would testament to like we as actors, we

834
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: want to do good material. We have many reasons why

835
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: we want to do things, but good material is like

836
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 2: sort of the main purpose and it doesn't always get

837
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: to you right, So it doesn't make so much easier

838
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: if you can go directly to the person.

839
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: And I knew that.

840
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: I knew her agents could easily pass on it if

841
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: she didn't even know about it. So I wanted her

842
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: to like know about it and read it.

843
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: So she did.

844
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: She loved it, she wanted to come on board. And

845
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: then funny enough, I've always wanted Oliver Hudson like I

846
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: used to. I don't know if you were ever at

847
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: some of those parties we used to go to when

848
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: he would show.

849
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Up, Yeah, where everybody was like in love with him

850
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: because he was so handsome and everybody's like hi, Hi, Hi.

851
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: I would say the stupidest stuff, like my mouth would

852
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: become a jumble of like yeah, and I'd say something

853
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: like I need milk and he's like okay.

854
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: So I haven't seen him in like twenty years, and

855
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: I was so nervous. I'm like, oh my gosh, this

856
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: guy probably still remembers me as a babbling buffoon. He

857
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: sentenced together around him like I don't even get it.

858
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 3: Like he's really handsome, but like it's not but not like.

859
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he has charisma, he has a very there's something.

860
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: He's an electraumatic person in a very specific way, which

861
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people Harry styles has that for example,

862
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 2: that's like when I met Harry, I was like I did, yeah,

863
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: I could be my child. And I was like, oh goodness,

864
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: yeah you're I'm a feeling very like I.

865
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: Met Billy Idyl a few years ago and I was like,

866
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 3: holy crap, you are.

867
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: Sexy, Like right, what is that? You could be my

868
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: dad but you're sexy?

869
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Oliver he just gave off that thing, and

870
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: so I was like really wanted him for this part.

871
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: But I was also like, oh, it just huge, Like

872
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: what am I even gonna say to him?

873
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: And like my hairdresser, I was like, I don't know

874
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: how to talk to Oliver and she's like, you'll figure

875
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: it out.

876
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I hope. So funny.

877
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, So Oliver was amazing and we have a lot.

878
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: Oliver and I have a lot of friends in common

879
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: because a lot of people worked on his show Rules

880
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: of Engagement.

881
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: And oh right, right, right, a.

882
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: Lot of people in common. And what's wonderful is that

883
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: his son Wilder came on and played his son the movie, which.

884
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: Was really is that right?

885
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: Oh? I didn't so to see Oliver like be a

886
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: stage dad.

887
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: It made me like, how would I be with my

888
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: kids on sex? I've never really built that.

889
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: Wait, your kids have not been in Oh they've been around.

890
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: They've been around, they just haven't been in front of

891
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: the like.

892
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: For like like a scene in Melissa Joey or like

893
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: I'm never well, Tucker was. Tucker was in a scene

894
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: of a movie I directed, but like one long scene

895
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: and that was it, right, you know, we shot that

896
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: scene and he was done so half a day or whatever.

897
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: But but him working with his son for like, you know,

898
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: I mean, we're there six weeks and he's oh wow,

899
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: trying to give his son notes and help him with

900
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: the comedy and like, just come on, you know you

901
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: got this, Like don't be afraid and don't be like

902
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: really play with it.

903
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: What if he was like really mean and he was

904
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: like that's awful. Do it again.

905
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so patient and so and he was

906
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: so proud of it. Was so cute to see it

907
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 3: on his dad face of like he's doing it.

908
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: So sweet. And Jamila, Jamil, isn't it?

909
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: So she is amazing. I have I was obsessed with

910
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: the Good Place and I just went I read this part.

911
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, please let it be her? Please

912
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: can this be her? Like she would just be she

913
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: would kill this part, like she'd be so amazing. It's

914
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: supposed to be so. Alicia's character and her name's Kate

915
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: and Oliver's character there they are husband and wife, but

916
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 3: they're getting divorced and they're amicably divorcing. They have two

917
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: teenage kids and they've decided now is the time to

918
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: separate because mainly because Alicia's character wants to go off

919
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: and have a career, and so she's kind of decided

920
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: she needs her own space and she's leaving this marriage

921
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: and uh, and then he brings to Christmas, he kind

922
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: of surprises the family that Jamila is the new girlfriend.

923
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: So he shows up with like this young, hot, like

924
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: sapy New York City slick, you.

925
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Know, girlfriend.

926
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: And so it becomes like the family having to hang

927
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: out in this small town in Vermont, and what happens

928
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: at the dinner and the gingerbread making contest, all these things,

929
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: and so Pearson Fote comes into it, who you might

930
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: know from his recent The Wrong Paris, and he's like,

931
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 3: got a billion movies coming out this year, right, we did.

932
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: A movie together years ago that no one saw called

933
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: DM A you don't need to watch m d M

934
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: A m d M A nice And that is what

935
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: it is about. Go ahead, and I got to see this.

936
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: So Pearson is like a like the you know, the

937
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: jack of all trades from every Christmas movie, Like he's

938
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: the tree cutter guy, but he's also like the town

939
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: exotic dancer and the snowplow guy, like he does all

940
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: the things.

941
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: And so she uses him to try to make Oliver's

942
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: character jealous again. Like once she starts getting jealous, she

943
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: uses Pearson and and so they you know, the two

944
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: couples are kind of always fighting for attention and they go.

945
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Sledding age love it all the things. So oh and

946
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm in it too.

947
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, are you're in it too?

948
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: Right? Yes? I play's best friend. I kind of yeah,

949
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm like the best friend in town, his girst friend. Yes,

950
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: I get to be the best.

951
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: Friend, which is fun. Which was it was a great

952
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: it was funny role. It had a lot of you

953
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: know a lot of really funny lines. And I could

954
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: produce and be in it.

955
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: Yes, so you right, you produced it and you're in it,

956
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: but you did not direct it.

957
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: No, I did not direct it. It was Steve Carr who did,

958
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: like Paul Blart, Mall Cop Cop and Daddy Daycare.

959
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: Right right, So like big comedies, big comedy.

960
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of comedy in this movie, yes,

961
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: which is fun because I feel like Christmas movies are

962
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: missing comedy.

963
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: It's all romance and sweet and I was just.

964
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: Gonna say, like, that's such an excellent combo a comedy,

965
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: And because I who doesn't love making a Christmas movie

966
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: and who doesn't love watching Christmas movie? I like both

967
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: of those things, and the comedic part is like a

968
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: home run.

969
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: I feel like those are the ones that we're not

970
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: getting now, and those are the ones that last. Like

971
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: the classic you know from our childhood, I won't you know,

972
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: go as far back as like you know, Miracle on

973
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: thirty fourth Street and it's a wonderful life classic.

974
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: But classics like Elf.

975
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: Vacation, you know, Christmas baka Home Alone, they all have

976
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: a comedic They're like comedy movies first and then they're

977
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: Christmas on the side.

978
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm kind of into making movies like that,

979
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: you know.

980
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: So tell me before we go, what when does it air?

981
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: When does it premiere where? Or when? How?

982
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: November twelfth, November twelve, it will air on Netflix and

983
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: you can watch it all holiday season long, many many many.

984
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: Times, many many many many times. This can become what

985
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: my love actually is, which I watch at the b

986
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: starting at the beginning of the season, and then continue

987
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: to watch it through till you know New.

988
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: Year's exactly exactly. It does have a little feel of love. Actually,

989
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: there's a little bit.

990
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that that's a lot of different

991
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: storylines telling different stories of love, but this one has

992
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: the two like kind of three, because it's like almost

993
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: like the two side relationships and then the marriage, right,

994
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: you know, so you kind of watch these different relationships

995
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: and how they change, and it's fun. And not only

996
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: does Wilder play the Sun, but this wonderful talented actress,

997
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: Emily plays the daughter and she brings in a guy

998
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: named Timothy plays her boyfriend, Nigel from England, who is

999
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: like a Harry Potter, like geeked out kind of guy.

1000
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: And so she brings her boyfriend home to meet the parents.

1001
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: And so you got the younger the younger version too.

1002
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: And what's going on this sequel? Obviously there's many.

1003
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: We have to keep it going, keep the train.

1004
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I love you so dearly. I'm so happy that

1005
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: we got to sort of see each other because when

1006
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: I posted that photo of Jenny, Jenny Garth and I

1007
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: had went to an event together and Melissa is like,

1008
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: why do my friends get to hang out and I'm

1009
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: not there? And then I thought we have to.

1010
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: I know, I love it. I mean I've only met

1011
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: Jenny once, but she is like my favorite person on Earth.

1012
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: That picture, you know, the picture of all of us

1013
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: at nineties Con where we're laughing, Joria and Florida when

1014
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: we had there's like a martini in it and French

1015
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: fries and I look like I am losing my mind.

1016
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: I was laughing so hard. That picture keeps coming up.

1017
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: I have a shuffle on my laptop, but it only

1018
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: uses that photo and then one other photo of my

1019
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 2: friend Tom and I where we're in Italy, and I'm like, oh,

1020
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: I like both of these things. But it's like, doesn't

1021
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: shuffle anything else. So I see that photo of us

1022
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: all the time.

1023
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: That's some weird algorithm. But what's hilarious is like that's

1024
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: like the first time I really met Jenny.

1025
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: When I've been friends with Brian Austin Green and I

1026
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: worked with Jason Priestley and he's my neighbor here in Nashville,

1027
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: and like, oh that's right, yes, yeah, so like the

1028
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: nine to two and like I ran into Tory all

1029
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 3: the time everywhere, But Jenny's the one I've never really met.

1030
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: And I met her that and I was but she's

1031
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: the one I want, like I think because I like

1032
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: had the blonde hair like her.

1033
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have a similar a similar I kind

1034
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: of like.

1035
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: Imagined myself like her, Like I wanted to be a

1036
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: little bit more quiet than I was, Like I was

1037
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: like the loud mouth, but I wanted to be more

1038
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: quiet and like her, you know. And so to meet

1039
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: her was like, oh my god, like my teenage self, right,

1040
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: her and Christine Taylor as you were there for when

1041
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 3: we were at Christine Tea.

1042
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Christine and I and are never never

1043
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: crossed paths career where we thought we were going to

1044
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: do this TV show together for years and then it

1045
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: was like, oh no, that show's not going so and

1046
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: you two will never see each other again.

1047
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, well, and that was at Comic Con. I

1048
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: think it was that same one with David Lasher being

1049
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: with Christine, and.

1050
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: You know, that was a different one because I we

1051
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: what was the one for the first time. I've only

1052
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: done it twice once for nineties Con. Once I did

1053
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: it with Alicia and Clueless, and then the second time

1054
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: was with you guys. But I think I wasn't there

1055
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: with David and.

1056
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: Oh were you only in Hartford? Did you only do

1057
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: it in Harford?

1058
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: Yep, I only did Harford. And then I did the

1059
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: Florida one with with you y yeah, oh no, dayton No,

1060
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: remember it was Daytona Daytona.

1061
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so maybe it was the Tampa day Tampa

1062
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: was before. So Tampa I think is when I met

1063
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: Christine and went out with David and I was like, she.

1064
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: Was the sweetest. Also, what a lovely Yeah, she's like

1065
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: a lovely, lovely let's put.

1066
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: Together a girls group and just like start making a.

1067
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: Girls I yes, help me in well.

1068
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: I love you, thank you for having me, thanks for

1069
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: getting me out of my podcast hiatus.

1070
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: Exactly. I'm so proud to say I am the person

1071
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: who's brought you out of hiding.

1072
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: You did, you did, thank you, thank you.

1073
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: All Right, everybody watched this movie, I'm going to like,

1074
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: it's going to be amazing. Merry little X mess all right.

1075
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: I love you, Love you girl,