1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm Matt, I'm no, I'm Ben, and we are Stuff 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. Each week we cover 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: the latest and strangest in fringe science, government cover ups, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: allegations at the paranormal and more. New episodes come out 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: every Friday on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, in anywhere else 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Welcome to Stuff you missed in 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: history class from how Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I am Tracy V. Wilson and 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm Holly Frying. A couple of years ago, Holly researched 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: and we recorded and a show on the Mary Celeste. 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Pretty creepy story about a ship that was discovered a 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: drift without its passengers or crew in eighteen seventy two. 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: And there are lots and lots of theories about what 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: happened to the Mary Celeste, how it came to be 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: adrift and apparently abandoned. Uh no really how percent definitive 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: answer though, so, the Mary Celeste is the most famous 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: of a whole collection of similar nautical history mysteries, so 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: much so that a lot of the other ships we 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: were about to talk about are described with names like 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: the Welsh Mary Celeste, or New Zealand's Mary Celeste. She's famous, 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: that Mary Celeste. Yep on the side. Note, the ships 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: that we were talking about today, we're all either owned 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: or captained by people from Europe or North America. And 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: obviously there are nautical mysteries from other parts of the 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: world too, But aside from more recent stories of ghost 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: ships often full of bodies, that have been made headlines 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: in the last couple of decades, a lot of the 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: older stories from the rest of the world don't quite 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: fit the definition of what we're talking about today. So, 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: for example, numerous Japanese vessels wound up off the coast 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: of northwestern North America in the nineteenth century, but all 32 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: of them had either been very obviously wrecked in a 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: storm or there were survivors on board to explain what happened, 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: so they don't quite fit into the ghost ship genre 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: that we were talking about today. However, if you know 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: about some historically substantiated ghost ships from other nations, send 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: us a note and we would be happy to hear 38 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: about them. Because I looked real hard and did not 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: have success. So we're gonna jump right in, and the 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: first ship that we're talking about is the Resolving and 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: this was a merchant brig originally built in Nova, Scotia 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: and it worked as a cargo ship between Canada and 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Wales in the late nineteenth century. Its home port was 44 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: Everest with whales, and it carried a crew of about eleven. 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: In August of eight, four sailors from the Royal Navy 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: gun boat h MS Mallard spotted the Resolving off the 47 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: coast of what's now Newfoundland and the Labrador and it 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: was moving kind of erratically. So the Mallard hailed the 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: Resolving and didn't get a response, So sailors from the 50 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: Mallard boarded the other ship and they found it absolutely 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: abandoned these erratic movements or because the sales were all 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: still set, but there was nobody at the helm. This 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: abandonment had happened quite recently to the time that they 54 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: discovered it. There were fires still lit in the galley 55 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: and lamps were still burning, and a table was set 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: with food in preparation for a meal that looked like 57 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: it was just about to be eaten. The last entry 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: in the log had been made about six hours before 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: the Mallard spotted it adrift, and contained nothing that suggested 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: a problem. There was no sign of struggle. There was 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: no indication that the ship was or had been in 62 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: some kind of serious distress. A yard arm was broken, 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: and there was some tackle that was dangling, but none 64 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: of this was anything to suggest that the ship or 65 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: the crew had been in some kind of major peril. 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: The lifeboat was gone, but there was really no clear 67 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: reason that anyone would have taken it. There was not 68 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: a reason that was evident that they would have abandoned 69 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: the ship, and plus the light the lifeboat itself was 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: never recovered, nor was any crew who might have taken 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: it away. It also didn't seem like the ship had 72 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: been robbed. A bag of gold coins that was kept 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: in the captain's locker to secure cargo was still there, 74 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: but the personal fortune of the captain, John James was missing. 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: Of course, speculation about what had happened started immediately. The 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: initial theory was that the Resolver had run into an 77 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: iceberg that the Mallard's crew had spotted nearby, and the 78 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: idea was that the inexperienced sailors aboard had been panicked 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: and abandoned the ship. Uh There was even a theory 80 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: that the ship had actually become lodged on the iceberg, 81 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: and the crew, thinking that they were permanently stuck, had 82 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: abandoned the ship. But then the Resolver had worked itself 83 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: free after they had already abandoned it. Another theory was 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: that the crew had taken one of the boats and 85 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: left for some reason, intending to return right away, but 86 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: then something befell them on route. But that raised the 87 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: question of why the whole crew would have gone and 88 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: why they would have done so with all of the 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: ship's sales set. There was a third theory that, since 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: John James's fortune was missing, maybe it had been a 91 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: case of mutiny and theft. But then that raised the 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: question of why if you were going to steal John 93 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: James's fortune, you would not also steal the ship's purse. Tragically, 94 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: the disappearance of the captain's funds did mean that his 95 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: widow died in poverty. Eventually, the Resolvern was towed into 96 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: harbor and put back into service, sailing out of Cardiff. 97 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: After a series of other less serious accidents, the re 98 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: outfitted Resolve and was lost off the coast of Nova 99 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Scotia in so a little while after this, all happened, 100 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: people started to sort of think that the story of 101 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: the resolve In was apocryphal. It became part of the 102 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: local lore and family stories, but there wasn't any kind 103 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 1: of written record to back it up. That changed thanks 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: to will Wayne, who's the great grandson of John James. 105 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: He started trying to research the ship and figure out 106 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: what had happened to his great grandfather. And while he 107 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: was doing this research, he found the HMS Mallard's log 108 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: book for the period of time that included its discovery 109 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: of the resolving The strange discovery was indeed detailed there 110 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: in the log books, so finally a primary source account 111 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: from the time that this weird thing had happened. As 112 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: the story of John James's mysterious disappearance had been handed 113 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: down through Will Wayne's family, another family in Newfoundland had 114 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: a story of its own. A few generations prior, a 115 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: couple of men had found an unknown sea captain in uniform, 116 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: deceased sitting under a tree. They didn't report the fine 117 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: and instead buried him in an unmarked grave. Later on, 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: members of that family were mysteriously in possession of gold coins. 119 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: The discovery and burial was about a month after the 120 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: resolving was found adrift, in Wayne was planning a trip 121 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: to Newfoundland to try to figure out if this family's 122 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: mysterious wealth and this sea captain had purportedly been found 123 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: and read was really related to his great grandfather's lost fortune, 124 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: although he doesn't seem to have publicly announced yet what 125 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: he discovered when he went on this trip. So this 126 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: could be a developing ghost ship story. It could be 127 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: a developing ghost chip story. Uh. The part of this 128 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: that's the creepiest to me is the part where the 129 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: fires were still lit the so certainly indicates very recent people. 130 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: People were just there. Yes, we are going to take 131 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: a brief break before we get to the next story 132 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: because we don't want to jump into it and then 133 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: immediately stopped for a pause, So we will be back 134 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: after a quick word from a sponsor. So, building a 135 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: great wardrobe takes a lot of time, which is something 136 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: that a lot of people just do not have. 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In seventeen fifty, as it was returning 168 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: from Honduras, the Sea Bird ran aground on Eaton's Beach, 169 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: Rhode Island. And the reason it ran aground once again, 170 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: nobody was on board. Here's how it's like a slightly 171 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: amplified version of the Resolving. The Resolving had had the 172 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: fires and lamps still lit. The Sea Birds still had 173 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: coffee brewing and tobacco smoke in the air. Although it 174 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: had no human occupants still aboard, there were a dog 175 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: and a cat there. So the dog and the cat 176 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: made the coffee and had a cigarette. The obvious explanation 177 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: was that they were they were setting up a sort 178 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: of dog's playing poker. S Exactly where this gets really 179 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: odd is that the seabird was on its way to Newport, 180 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: Rhode Island. Eaton's Beaches in Newport and is one of 181 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: the city's public beaches today. So the seabird made it 182 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: through the last leg of its journey, navigating shoals, rocks, 183 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: and breakers, and came to rest on the beach basically 184 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: at its destination, rather gently, but apparently with no one 185 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: at the wheel. The seabirds longboat was also missing, which 186 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: led to the speculation that the crew had abandoned ship 187 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: for some reason. But just the same there was not 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: a reason that was clear why they would have done this. 189 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: There had not been any rough weather in the area, 190 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: and the ship itself was basically undamaged. Even considering the 191 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: fact that it had come to rest on a beach 192 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: with no crew they're steering it. It had come through 193 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: all that more or less unscathed. Neither the longbed nor 194 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the crew were ever recovered. After all this, the merchant 195 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: who owned the sea Bird, Mr. Isaac Steel, sold it 196 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: to another merchant named Henry Collins. I don't think the 197 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: reasons for this are really documented, but I imagine him going, no, 198 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: this is a little too weird for me. I don't 199 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: want this vote anymore. There are a lot of different 200 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: versions of the Sea Bird story. Because it happened so 201 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: long ago and because it became part of the local 202 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: lore in Rhode Island, various fictionalized versions of it were 203 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: written and printed in the century or so after it happened, 204 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: and some of those were then sort of picked up 205 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: by people who thought they were a historical account and 206 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: not a fictionalized story. So if you go and look 207 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: this one up, you might find some discrepancies and things 208 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: like the years, various other details. Uh, there's one that 209 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: that says that in addition to the cat and a dog, 210 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: there was a canary. There are just little oddities that 211 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: are slightly different from one telling to another. And a raccoon, 212 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: and it's just out there to be a bunch of 213 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: cookie animals that have a ship. I'd love it where 214 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: they made coffee and smoke. Yeah, I mean, this is 215 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the start of a great show. The next one that 216 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about is the Envy Joioda, and 217 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: it had a bit of a history before its mysterious 218 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: final voyage. It was originally built as a luxury yacht 219 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: for director Roland West and film star Mary Pickford. Was 220 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: a frequent guest. The U. S. Navy acquired the yacht 221 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: just before the bombing of Pearl Harbor and put it 222 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: into wartime service patrolling in the Pacific. After the War 223 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: of the Joyoda was used as a cabin cruiser in 224 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: the Southern Pacific Ocean. It's captain, Thomas Henry Miller, was 225 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: from Wales and most of its crew were from the 226 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: Southern Pacific, including New Zealand, Carabas and Samoa. Fifteen of 227 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: the twenty people aboard on the last voyage were from 228 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: the island nation of Tokalau, which had a population of 229 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: only about six hundred people. There's who were aboard that 230 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: day included sixteen crew and nine passengers. In October of 231 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty five, the Joida left the port of Appia 232 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: in Western Samoa now simply Samoa, and it was bound 233 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: for Toklau with oil, timber, food and supplies in its 234 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: cargo hold. The trip from Western Samoa should have taken 235 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: about forty hours, but on the way the Joida just vanished. 236 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: If it made any distress calls, Those calls were never 237 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: received and a search was mounted, but they didn't find anything. 238 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: And then on November tenth of nineteen thirty eight, days 239 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: after the Joda set sail from the port of Appia, 240 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: the Tuvalu spotted a badly listing ship off the coast 241 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: of Fiji. In spite of a huge hole in the side, 242 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: it was still afloat, but it was almost six hundred 243 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: miles off course. This was of course the JOIDA, the 244 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: two volus and a boat over to investigate, and when 245 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: the captain radioed Fiji to make a report of he 246 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,359 Speaker 1: had found, he said, quote, it sounds like another Mary Celeste. 247 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: We have no theory yet what happened. There was no 248 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: sign of the passengers or the crew. The lifeboats and raft, 249 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: which were more than adequate to remove both the passengers 250 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: and the crew, were gone, although there weren't enough life 251 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: jackets for all twenty five people aboard, along with all 252 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: the food from the galley, The ship's log and sextant 253 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: were also gone. The ship was towed to Fiji and 254 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: all the water was pumped out of the hull, but 255 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: that just deepened the mystery. When they originally found the boat, 256 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: there was an obvious conclusion, which was that the whole 257 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: that was obviously there had caused the ship to take 258 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: on water and list, but once they actually pumped the 259 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: water out, that conclusion was quickly dismissed. Instead, based on 260 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: the position of barnacles and the condition of the rest 261 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: of the ship, it seemed like the ship had actually 262 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: taken on water from Raine and possibly very big waves 263 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: on rough seas. The damaged hull had been a re 264 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: salt of those pounding seeds, not the cause of the 265 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: boats taking on water. The lights, though not working, we're 266 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: all set to the on position, and the ship's clocks, 267 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: which had been powered by generators, had all stopped at 268 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: ten fifty three. It seemed as though the generators had 269 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: taken some kind of damage. There was a mattress covering 270 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: one engine, and the other looked like someone had been 271 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: working on it. Once all of the water had been drained, 272 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: it also became clear just how much was gone from 273 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: the wrecked ship. In addition to the lifeboats and the rafts, 274 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: the sextant food from the cargo hold, just about everything 275 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: else that had any use or value and was movable 276 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: was gone. The refrigerators in the galley, on the other hand, 277 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: still contained meat. There are lots of theories about what 278 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: happened a lot of them, hinge on the idea that 279 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: there had been some kind of problem on the ship, 280 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: a mechanical failure or a collision, and that the crew 281 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: and passengers had abandoned it. But the big issue with 282 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: that theory is that Captain Miller was highly experienced, and 283 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: it seems unlikely that he would have abandoned a seaworthy 284 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: ship in a well traveled part of the ocean rather 285 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: than waiting for rescue. The other big theories all tie 286 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: in some way to criminal activity. That pirates may have 287 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: robbed the vessel and then murdered everyone aboard and left 288 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: a derelict, or that somebody on board might have mutinied 289 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: and stolen everything and then forced everyone who wasn't part 290 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: of the plot into a lifeboat. There was a whole 291 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory involving a fleet of murderous Japanese fisherman, and 292 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: the captain was actually scheduled to be in court in 293 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Wales because his wife was divorcing him, and some people 294 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: suggested that he had tried to orchestrate a quote accident 295 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: to get out of that. There is no evidence at 296 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: all for any of these, and in particular, the story 297 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: of the murderous Japanese fisherman is probably a lot more 298 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: related to the recently concluded World War Two than anything 299 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: based in real events. In two thousand two, David Wright 300 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: published a book called Joida Solving the Mystery, in which 301 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: he concluded that a corroded pipe in the engine cooling 302 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: system had been leaking water into the ship for some 303 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: time before anyone had noticed, and then broke and flooded 304 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: the vessel. He theorized that the crew had sent a 305 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: madeay signal, but that the radio wasn't actually working uh, 306 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: and they did that before abandoning the ship via lifeboats 307 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: and rafts. If that really is what happened, it's probably 308 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: the saddest possible scenario, since it means that the people 309 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: who were on the rafts would have slowly died of hunger, thirst, drowning, 310 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: and sharks while waiting for help that wasn't actually coming. 311 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: In addition to that, this was devastating for the island 312 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: nation of Tokalau because, I mean it's population was so 313 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: small and there were so many people on board who 314 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: were from there. Um, there have been memorials and things 315 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: set up in more recent years, but like that was 316 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: just a huge percentage of the population to be lost 317 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: in one maritime incident. Uh. And now we're going to 318 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: have another brief sponsor break before we get to our 319 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: last mysterious mysterious ghost ship. That sponsor is Texture. So 320 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: you we all know about binge eating. Not the best idea, 321 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: but sometimes it happens. You can binge watch television with 322 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: Netflix or Hulu, and now with Texture you can start 323 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: binge reading. 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Deering Company in nineteen nineteen. 341 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: In January of ninety one, the ship, which had an 342 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: experienced crew, was returning from Brazil to Virginia. On January 343 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: twenty nine of that year, the Deering passed the lightship 344 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: at Cape Lookout. If you are I know most of 345 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: our listeners are probably not all that familiar with the 346 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: coast of North Carolina. There are lots of little islands 347 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: and things. It is very treacherous, so there are lots 348 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: of lightships and lighthouses to try to guide ships. And 349 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: so they passed the lightship that was at Cape Lookout 350 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: and the lightship keeper Captain Jacobson. Later we're ported that 351 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: somebody aboard who did not seem to be an officer, 352 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: told him that the ship had lost its anchors. Now, 353 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: Captain Jacobson was kind of suspicious of this. Of this situation, 354 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: the crew was kind of milling around aimlessly, and the 355 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: fact that the person who was telling him about the 356 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: missing anchor did not seem to be in charge was 357 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of odd, but UH Captain Jacobson's radio was out, 358 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: so he could not radio the Coastguard to tell them 359 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: of his concerns. At about five forty pm the next day, 360 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: the s S. Lake Elon spotted the ship and noticed 361 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: that it seemed to be on an odd course. And 362 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: then at six thirty am on January thirty one, the 363 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: schooner was spotted once again. This time it was a 364 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: ground on Diamond Shoals off of Cape Hatteras. CP. Brady 365 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: of the Cape Hatteras Coastguard Station was the first to 366 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: spot the boat and suspected that it was the deering, 367 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: although the sea was too rough that day to really investigate. 368 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: It would be February four for a wrecker named the 369 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: Rescue could get close enough to confirm the ship's identity 370 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: and verify Brady's report. As has been the case with 371 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: all of our other UH ghost ships that were operated 372 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: by sail power, the sales were all still set, the 373 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: anchors were indeed missing, as had been reported to the 374 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: light shipkeeper at Cape Lookout. Food was set out as 375 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: though a meal were about to be served, and the 376 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: crew were all gone, along with all their personal belongings, 377 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: their navigational equipment, and some of the ship's papers. The 378 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: lifeboats were gone as well. There were three cats on board, 379 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: but no other signs of life. I would be the 380 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: fool that tried to take the kiddies on an escape boat. 381 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: It wouldn't go well. I'm just saying, I know it's foolish. Uh. 382 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: The Daring continued to rest there on the shoals until March, 383 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: when it was starting to break apart and become a 384 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: hazard to other ships, and at that point it was 385 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: towed out to see and scuttled. The scuttling was only 386 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: partially effect, like a big chunk of it floated back 387 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: to Ogracoke Island. Uh. And the mystery continued even after 388 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: the ship had been destroyed. That April, Christopher Columbus Gray 389 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: reported that he had found a note in a bottle 390 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: that detailed the Daring having been taking over by pirates. Ultimately, 391 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: this was confirmed to be a complete hoax, and that 392 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: Gray had actually written the note himself. A month later, 393 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: the wife of the ship's captain, Lula Wormle, teamed up 394 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: with its former captain, William H. Merritt and her pastor, 395 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: the Reverend Dr. Addison Lormer to try to persuade the 396 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: government to investigate what had happened. They started with Senator 397 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: Frederick Hale of Maine, and then they met with Secretary 398 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: of Commerce Herbert Hoover. And although an FBI agent did 399 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: visit Dare County and found plenty of people willing to speculate, 400 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: there were really no conclusive results. Leads that he tried 401 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: to track down included Bolshevik pirates and rum runners. One 402 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: frequent theory in this whole situation, as the crew was 403 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: dissatisfied with its captain W. B. Wormal, He had actually 404 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: replaced Merritt just a few days after the Daring first 405 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: departed Virginia in August of nine. This is because Merritt 406 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: had been taken ill suddenly. Captain Balance of the Cape 407 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: Hatteras Station theorized that the crew had taken everything of value, 408 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: abandoned it, and then wrecked it into the shoals on purpose. 409 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: On the other hand, the prevailing opinion of the coast 410 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Guard was that it was a terrible location for doing 411 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: such a thing, because the seas were so treacherous there 412 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: that it would be incredibly difficult to bring in a lifeboat. Safely. 413 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: You had another mystery. Uh, these are the four ghost 414 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: chips that I found the most substantiated information about. There 415 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: are many others, but a lot of their accounts boiled 416 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: down to we found about there were no people on 417 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: it the end like that. We don't know anything else 418 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: about the history of the ship, or the history that 419 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: people on it, or what the theories where it's like 420 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: a paragraph. Studn't spooky, but not so much of a narrative. Yeah, yeah, 421 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: we could. We could just list off a bunch more. 422 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: Also was another ship that was found with no people 423 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: on it. Next year we'll do spooky one liners. I 424 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: also have some listener mails. This listener mail is from 425 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Erica and it is a throwback all the way to 426 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: August when we were doing some African history and Erica 427 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: says dear Tracy and Holly. I recently started listening to 428 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: your podcast, picking and choosing from the older episodes with 429 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: titles that sound most interesting. I was exceptionally excited about 430 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: the August Dahomye. I was an art major in college 431 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: and studied studied a lot of African art history. I 432 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: narrowly missed obtaining a minor in African studies by just 433 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: one class. Anyway, I took a short winter break study 434 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: abroad trip to Wieda in the winter of two of 435 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and six and have been to the museum 436 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: palace you spoke of in the episode, as well as 437 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: many other monuments to the slave trade, including the Arch 438 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: and Gate of No Return on the beach of Ouida. 439 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: The study abroad trip was specially organized by the African 440 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: art history professor. I had taken multiple classes with who 441 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: had lived in Ouida as part of her graduate studies, 442 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: thus gaining connections with a prominent local family who fed 443 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: and guided us while we were there. Benin is or 444 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: at least was ten years ago, hardly the placed quote 445 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: tourists went, and I really cherished being able to visit 446 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: such a historical place that not many Westerners can or 447 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: do travel to. This podcast brought back so many memories 448 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: for me. I even went back and pulled out my 449 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: old travel journal and read my entry from the day 450 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: we traveled to the museum, and I wrote about the 451 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: Amazon warriors and the throat I saw that sat a 452 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: top four very real human skulls. My experience in Benin 453 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: was my first time traveling out of the country and 454 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: it forever changed me in so many ways. Words can 455 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: hardly describe the feelings one has walking the same road 456 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: the slaves walked, standing at the same spot where the 457 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: auctions were held. Although I don't have other real insights 458 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: about the topic to share and the podcast is from 459 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: quite a while ago, now, I just had to tell 460 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: you about my experience there and that this podcast really 461 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: really resonated with me. I can't wait to listen to 462 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: the follow up episode on the Amazon Warriors next to 463 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: lighten the mood. Here are a few attached her a 464 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: few photos I took during another outing from our trip 465 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: to the Village of Gambi also known as the Village 466 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: on Stilts, as well as the Venice of Africa applet 467 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: named is as accessible only by boat. There's a lot 468 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: of interesting history with the founding of this village and 469 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: its linked to the slave trade or attempt to escape 470 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: the slave trade. More accurately, that might make a great podcast, hint, hint, 471 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: But even if not, certainly it is another interesting facet 472 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: to the slave trade history out of Benin that I'm 473 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: sure you'll be interested in learning more about for your 474 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: own personal amusement. Take care, ladies, Erica. Thank you so much, 475 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: Erica for this note and these pictures. 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