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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show.
Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Jargon.
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Today we find out whether or not Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers constitutes stupid stuff. Joining me this week, Kent, Why Rock?
Speaker 1: Hey Ken, Good to have you back.
Speaker 3: Hey, glad to be back. I know Matt wanted to
Speaker 3: jump in and talk about some divisions here, but look,
Speaker 3: when we get Aaron Rodgers news on the AFC North episode,
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta get it done.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 1: It's the timing could not have been better really for
Speaker 1: this to drop, and it is.
Speaker 4: An It's it's not unexpected in any way.
Speaker 1: I think for Aaron Rodgers, Kent, it just came down to, Okay,
Speaker 1: am I going to end up with Pittsburgh? Or am
Speaker 1: I going to wait for somebody to get injured and
Speaker 1: then try to fill in at some point?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely a question. And you know, we'll talk
Speaker 3: about this in a minute. But Mason Rudolph is not
Speaker 3: the guy and they need to do something. So he
Speaker 3: finally decided to sign he's gonna skip a little bit
Speaker 3: of the OTAs as he's known to do to do Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly that, I guess. You know, honestly, I do the
Speaker 3: same thing. I totally totally get it from his point
Speaker 3: of view as a guy in north of forty so right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a little bit like, you know,
Speaker 1: you get hired by some company and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, i'll see in about six weeks, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go vacation for a while. So, you know, nice for
Speaker 1: him to be able to do that. I guess we
Speaker 1: are not in the kitchen, We're not in the closet,
Speaker 1: spare bedroom this time. I'm very excited to say. And
Speaker 1: that's still no furniture in Utah house. But spare bedroom
Speaker 1: is going to be the uh, it's going to be
Speaker 1: the winner today and hopefully so you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: sound kent. You don't know this yet, I'm a sound
Speaker 1: quality snob for this show. During this move and all
Speaker 1: the things that have happened this is it's been a
Speaker 1: little bit tough on me, not having all my usual
Speaker 1: you know, studio office set up and just sort of
Speaker 1: making do where we can appreciate the listeners who have
Speaker 1: sort of stuck it out during this process as well.
Speaker 3: I totally understand. And you know, we'll find the new rhythm,
Speaker 3: the Utah Minnesota connection. It's gonna come to fruition and
Speaker 3: we're gonna make some good stuff this year.
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's break down the AFC and NFC
Speaker 1: North and I think we should just start with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the logical starting spot today, Kent.
Speaker 1: And as we've done for the past, now this will
Speaker 1: be our fourth or four shows where we break down
Speaker 1: divisions and highlight what's new from the previous from last season,
Speaker 1: the key new elements that you need to know for
Speaker 1: each one of these teams.
Speaker 4: So let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Pittsburgh, Kent. Let's just go ahead and
Speaker 1: you know, tear the band aid off and start with
Speaker 1: start with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: So you know, it really is suiting that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: announces this or rather this news of his signing was announced,
Speaker 3: but they were at the top of the list. The
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steels are gonna be the first AFC team that
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about today and it was just
Speaker 3: meant to be. So there's a lot of interesting cycling
Speaker 3: going on in terms of the personnel with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3: We got DK Metcalf coming in, we have George Pickens
Speaker 3: going out, both via trade. So it's a lot of
Speaker 3: moving parts going on for the Steelers offense right now.
Speaker 3: And how Aaron Rodgers coming in to the fold is
Speaker 3: going to affect the passing offense in general is something
Speaker 3: that we're really not sure about to begin with. So
Speaker 3: it's a very interesting situation. And you know, not to
Speaker 3: mention they have some changes on the offensive line too,
Speaker 3: So you know, Dan Moore Junior was their left tackle,
Speaker 3: he got lost free agency. Right guard James Daniels lost
Speaker 3: free agency, and then they're probably gonna move Roderick Jones
Speaker 3: back to left tackle, which was his college experience. Hasn't
Speaker 3: really done it much in the pros yet, but he
Speaker 3: had a rough year at right tackle last year, so
Speaker 3: you know, maybe that's a bounce back for him. But
Speaker 3: a lot of moving parts on the offensive line for sure.
Speaker 3: And then their new right guard is just some No.
Speaker 3: One Mason McCormick, who I wasn't even aware of to
Speaker 3: tell that I researched this, so yeah, it might be
Speaker 3: a little tough. But you know, if there's someone who
Speaker 3: has had a career of navigating the pocket, making plays
Speaker 3: out of seemingly broken situations, Aaron Rodgers is among the
Speaker 3: best of them. And you know he struggled a little
Speaker 3: bit with the Jets to accomplish that. Age comes first, all,
Speaker 3: doesn't it charge, But.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't know anything about that. Ken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, age is certainly coming for Rogers in some
Speaker 3: respects to his NFL career, and so you know, if
Speaker 3: he can turn down one last time for the Steelers,
Speaker 3: that'll be very interesting. But you know, bringing in DK metcalf,
Speaker 3: I think let's start there. He's twenty seven years old.
Speaker 3: This is year seven for him. I almost couldn't believe
Speaker 3: when I looked at I know he's been in the
Speaker 3: league for a while, but year seven already for a
Speaker 3: guy I feel like we just talked about as a
Speaker 3: prospect not that long ago. Butlast year he missed two
Speaker 3: games with a knee strain. There was a little bit
Speaker 3: of a divergence in his stats between those two splits
Speaker 3: and afterwards. It was pretty rough. It was only five
Speaker 3: point nine targets per game fifty three yards per game.
Speaker 3: But before that he was doing pretty well, you know,
Speaker 3: eighty one yards per game instead. So if he can
Speaker 3: bounce back to that pre injury number, he can still
Speaker 3: be himself. He's still got plenty of years in the tank.
Speaker 3: He's super athletic, he's got muscles on top of his muscles.
Speaker 3: He's my wife.
Speaker 1: My wife has decided DK Metcalf could tear the head
Speaker 1: off a mouse with his belly button. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know how one draws that particular conclusion from DK Metcalf,
Speaker 1: although I think she was transfixed by his abs in
Speaker 1: that moment, and so I think that's probably part of it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's you know, obviously he's he is a.
Speaker 4: Special, special athlete.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think one of the things that's
Speaker 1: going to make DK Metcalf tricky is there's nobody to
Speaker 1: relieve pressure on DK Metcalf, because after him, this depth
Speaker 1: chart falls to.
Speaker 3: Pe sure does. Yeah, and you know, with with George
Speaker 3: Pickens leaving, I guess we'll talk about that real quick
Speaker 3: and then we can go down the rest of the
Speaker 3: line up here. But you know, George Pickens actually had
Speaker 3: a decent amount of overlap in terms of how they
Speaker 3: were used to DK Metcalf. Not entirely similar, but certainly
Speaker 3: a lot of deep, deep yard looks and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So the idea to move on from him isn't like
Speaker 3: the worst idea in the world, but it certainly does
Speaker 3: leave a trail of tears, so to speak. After that.
Speaker 3: You know, Calvin Austin, He's probably not someone you're really
Speaker 3: going to be drafting in any leagues, but I guess
Speaker 3: you can keep an eye on him that that'd be
Speaker 3: probably the best case scenario. I'm not even keep an
Speaker 3: eye on him, You're just you're blind watching. That's right,
Speaker 3: I have it.
Speaker 1: I don't have an unlimited number of eyes, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to use uh, any of my valuable eyes.
Speaker 4: It's not going to be on Calvin Austin.
Speaker 3: Well, instead, can I interest you in one Robert Woods,
Speaker 3: who's thirty three years old?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you may and may not. I don't believe Robert
Speaker 1: Woods even make this roster.
Speaker 3: I'll go back far totally possible.
Speaker 1: At candidate, even though there's not a lot of talent
Speaker 1: behind him and Scottie Miller and Roman Wilson. But I
Speaker 1: you know, Woods has been so non impactful like last year's.
Speaker 4: He's with Houston.
Speaker 1: They have all the injuries, right, Diggs goes out, Tank
Speaker 1: Dell goes out, and Robert Woods is still invisible when
Speaker 1: they needed him.
Speaker 4: So I don't I don't think it can.
Speaker 1: I don't think Robert Wood's got anything left.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. He hasn't hit five hundred yards or
Speaker 3: more than two touch actually more than one touchdown the
Speaker 3: last two years, I should say. So. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 3: non interest as well. It's DK Metcalf or nothing. And
Speaker 3: unfortunately he's going to see a lot of double coverage
Speaker 3: based on this stuff. So it's not the best situation
Speaker 3: called DK Metcalf in a lot of leagues. Definitely not
Speaker 3: gonna be drafting Anon Rodgers. That's just too much of
Speaker 3: a mystery box for me. And you know, the run game,
Speaker 3: I guess we could switch to talk about. There's some
Speaker 3: interesting things going on here where Dongie Harris is gone.
Speaker 3: You know, we still have Jalen Warren there, who for
Speaker 3: the time being is the lead back. But I don't
Speaker 3: think he's built to play as a lead back or
Speaker 3: a three down guy. He's a very solid player and
Speaker 3: he's really great in the receiving game. But they did
Speaker 3: bring in Caleb Johnson. He was a third rounder, eighty
Speaker 3: sixth overall, And honestly, the Steels had their eyes on
Speaker 3: a ton of running backs in this draft class. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you were paying attention to some of
Speaker 3: the interview process and stuff like that, but they were
Speaker 3: looking at guys that were going in the first round,
Speaker 3: and they know they didn't have a second round pick,
Speaker 3: so they believe that they found something in Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 3: Thought they'd be there, thought that he would be there
Speaker 3: at the third round pick, and they nabbed him. He
Speaker 3: had a huge All American season for Iowa as a
Speaker 3: junior last year. Fifteen hundred rush yards, one hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty eight receiving yards on top, which isn't much but
Speaker 3: you know a little bit of additional yardage there, and
Speaker 3: then twenty three total touchdowns. So he had a really,
Speaker 3: really solid season. And he has an opportunity to step
Speaker 3: into a big role right away with Najee Harris gone
Speaker 3: and Jalen Warren not being your prototypical three down guy.
Speaker 3: So that's where I stand. I don't know, do you
Speaker 3: have any kind of feelings on Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson is super divisive among the college football experts.
Speaker 1: Some love him, some think he is absolutely moribund. I
Speaker 1: like Caleb Johnson, and I think he will be your interior,
Speaker 1: big bodied short yardage guy for the Steelers. You know,
Speaker 1: he is thickly built, He's designed to run between the tackles.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to do this off top of
Speaker 1: my head and Thorn I talked about it pre draft.
Speaker 1: I think he averaged four and a half yards per
Speaker 1: carry after contact, yards between the guards and carries between
Speaker 1: the guards. He's just in a really impressive inside runner.
Speaker 1: And then you know Iowa, he was the whole offense.
Speaker 4: You know, they couldn't pass.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody knew Caleb Johnson was coming, and defense
Speaker 1: is just you know, they game planned to just take
Speaker 1: him out of the Iowa offense, and it didn't always matter.
Speaker 1: Can IWA was still ran him. But you know you
Speaker 1: mentioned the fifteen hundred brushing yards and the twenty three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew it was coming. It was going to be
Speaker 1: all Caleb Johnson every game and it didn't matter.
Speaker 4: He could.
Speaker 1: You know, he's still piled up big stats, So I'm
Speaker 1: optimistic that he's going to be impactful, and but Jalen
Speaker 1: Warren will continue to have such a big role that
Speaker 1: I don't know that Caleb Johnson is going to be
Speaker 1: somebody that is more than like a flex start and
Speaker 1: might end up being pretty touchdown dependent. I think he
Speaker 1: will get more touchdowns than Jalen Warren just because of
Speaker 1: that big body.
Speaker 4: The other guy.
Speaker 1: I just want to mention in case you weren't going
Speaker 1: to I thought Kenneth Gainwell played the best football of
Speaker 1: his career last year. To me, in my eyes, he
Speaker 1: looked he looked like the best version of Kenneth Gainwell
Speaker 1: we had ever had. And I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be a I'm not saying you draft him, and we
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be really giving him much of any talk here,
Speaker 1: But if anything were to happen to Warren or Caleb Johnson,
Speaker 1: I think Kenneth Gainwell is is somebody that would that
Speaker 1: would get a little bit of time.
Speaker 4: In this offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on day one, I see him taking maybe some
Speaker 3: of the targets that Nauge left behind. That's probably the
Speaker 3: biggest thing he's going to do right away. Not much
Speaker 3: until there's an injury in my opinion. Ye, but Yep,
Speaker 3: totally agreed.
Speaker 4: Agreed.
Speaker 1: All right, great breakdown on the Steelers. Let's go to
Speaker 1: our Let's go to our next team, which is the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Lots of change here. Kent start a quarterback,
Speaker 1: so we don't know who the starting quarterback is going
Speaker 1: to be, some combination of Joe Flacco, Canny Pickett. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's a factor, Dylan Dylan Gabriel, who was
Speaker 1: the first of two rookie quarterbacks taken, and then of
Speaker 1: course Shoulder Sanders, who slipped all the way to the
Speaker 1: fifth round, and then as you probably saw at the
Speaker 1: time of the draft, when they selected him, there was
Speaker 1: like golf applause in the in the war room for
Speaker 1: the Browns, like nobody was excited to take him. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation that ownership made made them and
Speaker 1: ultimately take Shader Sanders.
Speaker 4: I assume Flacco's going to start the season if it's.
Speaker 1: Just like the guy who's most ready to be a
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the NFL. I assume it's Flacco, but
Speaker 1: you don't figure Flacco holds the job for that long
Speaker 1: and sooner or later, as a rebuilding team, they go
Speaker 1: to Gabriel, they go to Sanders. I don't think any
Speaker 1: Pickett's a factor here, and neither also Spina non factors can.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, as you may remember, reruptured his achilles tendon
Speaker 1: in January. So the presumption is that he will not
Speaker 1: play this year and he's probably played his final down
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Im probably his final down of NFL football.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, every teams are so desperate
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. Maybe some other team gives him a try.
Speaker 3: But speaking well, the Browns aren't desperate. They have like
Speaker 3: five quarterbacks, right, don't need him?
Speaker 4: Noney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know when when ownership came out and
Speaker 1: said publicly, yeah we made we made a big mistake
Speaker 1: and acquiring Deshaun Watson while he's on roster, that tells
Speaker 1: you that, like you know they're done with him when
Speaker 1: you when you actually go to that to that stage.
Speaker 1: Out of this group, I'm drafting none in dynasty and
Speaker 1: higher leagues. I would I think there's like a round
Speaker 1: late round two, early round three and standard leagues where
Speaker 1: you could throw a dart at Gabriel or Sanders, and
Speaker 1: probably Sanders would be my choice. But I think this
Speaker 1: is a situation to avoid at receiver. Not much to
Speaker 1: talk about. Deontay Johnson is not worthy of note. I
Speaker 1: will say a tight end, hyper productive college player, Harold
Speaker 1: Fannon just got drafted into a terrible spot behind David
Speaker 1: and Joku, and so I think he sits on the
Speaker 1: bench for quite a while.
Speaker 3: Yes, we got I don't know. I you know, I'll
Speaker 3: just say I'm shaken in mind in Djoku boots just
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It just took Djoku a while to get going, and
Speaker 3: he's been very productive, but it's been under the majority
Speaker 3: of the time under the best passers like Flacco. You know,
Speaker 3: it's hard to believe you could say that, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's just if we do have a situation where
Speaker 3: we have Gabriel or Sanders coming in, that could be
Speaker 3: an another changing of the go I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: they have I'd have to look at the contract. They
Speaker 3: haven't Joku for a little bit while. But if Fannon
Speaker 3: is the future, and if they're looking to move to
Speaker 3: the quarterback of the future, they could try to make
Speaker 3: the entire offense get younger, and that'd be one one
Speaker 3: avenue to do it. So it's it's not like I
Speaker 3: don't think Joku's going to finish the season as the
Speaker 3: starter necessarily, but it's just a little bit like a
Speaker 3: ten percent scare factor for me.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: I I liked Fannin more than I think most scouts
Speaker 1: did because he fell pretty far in the draft for
Speaker 1: the guy who led college football and production to tight end.
Speaker 4: But Joko's really good, So I don't know, I'm less.
Speaker 1: I think I feel more secure in drafting in Djoko
Speaker 1: than than I think you do.
Speaker 4: And that's fine.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the running back position because that's the
Speaker 1: most important one to talk about when you're talking about Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and we go to a rookie second rounder, Quinche on Judkins.
Speaker 1: Judkins is the presumed Week one starter, but you know
Speaker 1: Jerome Ford, you watch Joan Ford's going to be getting
Speaker 1: I bet he still continues to get a meaningful number
Speaker 1: of carries in especially early in the season. Judkins breaks
Speaker 1: a lot of tackles in the box because he's agile.
Speaker 1: He's got acceleration. That's his biggest thing, elite vision. He
Speaker 1: just the the upfield burst is really really good and
Speaker 1: he can catch and so I think he stays in
Speaker 1: the game on third downs. Now at Ohio state they
Speaker 1: threw him. They did throw him a lot, but it
Speaker 1: was almost all like you know, dump off stuff, check downs,
Speaker 1: dump off and so I don't know the Judkins is
Speaker 1: going to be a great help from a PPR standpoint,
Speaker 1: but he can catch and and so it'll be a
Speaker 1: factor there.
Speaker 4: I just don't.
Speaker 1: I think the question is just how long it takes
Speaker 1: him before he before Judkins turns into the lead back?
Speaker 4: And is that week one?
Speaker 1: Is it October?
Speaker 4: Is it November?
Speaker 1: These things always seem to go slower than we usually
Speaker 1: want them to.
Speaker 3: Ken my predictions the Hall of Fame game, and I
Speaker 3: know they don't even play it. I think he's the one.
Speaker 3: He's the one out the gates. If not in terms
Speaker 3: of snaps, it's probably going to be in terms of
Speaker 3: yardage and fantasy importance. So and then you know, as
Speaker 3: the year goes on, and he's clearly better than Jerome
Speaker 3: forn Ford and who's the other guy back there, pierres Strong.
Speaker 3: He's just clearly better than them. So it shouldn't take
Speaker 3: long for him to get the volume that it takes
Speaker 3: to become a more important fantasy asset.
Speaker 1: Talking about things that won't take long to talk about
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati offseason had almost no meaningful fantasy change.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, maybe the biggest thing we can talk
Speaker 3: about is last year they had a truly horrific offensive
Speaker 3: line situation thirty second in past block win rate thirtieth
Speaker 3: and run block win rate per ESPN. You know, they've
Speaker 3: made changes. They're lost right guard Alex Kapa, which is
Speaker 3: probably more of an addition by subtraction. He allowed thirty
Speaker 3: six pressures in eight sacks. Wasn't very good by PFF
Speaker 3: block grade and all that stuff, so you know he's
Speaker 3: being replaced by a veteran. They drafted Dylan Fairchild in
Speaker 3: the third round. They're making some moves and it's hard
Speaker 3: to get much worse than it was, but it's still
Speaker 3: not great. So you know, we'll see if their offensive
Speaker 3: link and bounce back. But the biggest change is that
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and t Higgins could combine their
Speaker 3: money and make us Scrooge McDuck money pool. That's something
Speaker 3: that they could do this year. They might get injured
Speaker 3: if they're diving into those coins, though, so they got
Speaker 3: to watch out.
Speaker 4: It's a great point.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's there's really not much changes, you know,
Speaker 3: it's the same old passing offense. They have the same
Speaker 3: tight end, Mike Sicki coming back. You had a little
Speaker 3: bit of a bounce back year, but wasn't targeted in
Speaker 3: the red zone very much. So I'm not going to
Speaker 3: be drafting very much of him. Chases the one oh
Speaker 3: one or one o two, depending on your settings, and
Speaker 3: t Higgins is going to be an elite wide receiver two.
Speaker 3: He's the best in the league probably, So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: really great. And the only thing is Tiggins. Excuse me.
Speaker 3: T Higgins had some health issues last year. He had
Speaker 3: three different injuries in twenty twenty four, a hamstring sprain
Speaker 3: in September, quad strain in October, and an ankle sprain
Speaker 3: in January. So he needs to get healthy and stay
Speaker 3: in intact to be able to provide for this offense.
Speaker 3: But if he's there and playing, it's going to be great.
Speaker 3: Let's move to the run game instead. Was a little
Speaker 3: bit more interesting things to talk about, not really, but
Speaker 3: a little bit. They brought back some ma a JP
Speaker 3: Ryan who's been gone for two years. He's starting thirty
Speaker 3: this year though he's definitely getting up there in age. Yeah,
Speaker 3: non factor for sure. Didn't rush much he was with
Speaker 3: the Broncos and then the Chiefs, but was still seen
Speaker 3: some targets, So I wanted to call that out. You know,
Speaker 3: thirty five targets for the Chiefs last year, three hundred
Speaker 3: twenty two receiving yards, fifty six the year prior for
Speaker 3: the Broncos four hundred and fifty five receiving yards. So
Speaker 3: do I think he's going to eat into Chase Brown's work?
Speaker 3: For No, Probably not, but he's probably going to be
Speaker 3: a third down back being brought in occasionally to assist.
Speaker 3: And in my opinion, Chase Brown is wheels up, ready
Speaker 3: to go. Last year thirteen hundred plus scrimmageyards, eleven total touchdowns.
Speaker 3: I think he smashes both of those numbers. This year
Speaker 3: didn't quite get to a thousand rushing yards. I think
Speaker 3: he smashes that as well, provided that this offensive line
Speaker 3: holds up.
Speaker 1: Agreed, I think Chase Brown's being underdrafted. I'm really optimistic
Speaker 1: about him, and I love that he's evolving as a
Speaker 1: receiver as well. And to your point, a lot of
Speaker 1: it hinges on getting anything out of anything better than
Speaker 1: non awful production out of that offensive line. So you're
Speaker 1: talking about jumping into a Scrooge McDuck lie like pile
Speaker 1: of coins, and it reminded me that there's reasons that
Speaker 1: coins are always round. No sharp edges on coins, right,
Speaker 1: every currency, like every currency in the world pretty much
Speaker 1: is round. So the question is this, Kent, this is
Speaker 1: your jeopardy moment.
Speaker 4: Do you know why so.
Speaker 3: They fit in the gumball machine.
Speaker 4: I like that answer. I like that answer.
Speaker 3: The no, I don't know the answer though.
Speaker 1: The correct answer as I understand it, and I could
Speaker 1: be wrong. This is I got this out of a
Speaker 1: out of a.
Speaker 4: Book years ago, and Neil Stevenson book. So I appreciate
Speaker 4: that Neil, in.
Speaker 1: The olden days of coins harder to counterfeit because it
Speaker 1: was hard to make things.
Speaker 4: That were perfectly round.
Speaker 1: And that's also why, by the way, you've got the
Speaker 1: and the other.
Speaker 4: So that's part one is counterfeiting, and then part.
Speaker 1: Two is people would they would try to slice off
Speaker 1: edges of the coins to keep the metal right. They
Speaker 1: would try to shave off edges and stuff. And that's
Speaker 1: why you've got on the edges of coins. It's you've
Speaker 1: got the beveling on the edges of coins, the little
Speaker 1: stripes on the edges of coins. That was originally because
Speaker 1: they wanted to be able to show if anybody had
Speaker 1: had like chiseled off or filed off edges of the
Speaker 1: coins for the metal.
Speaker 3: Very interesting.
Speaker 1: There's your there's your answer on why coins aren't sharp
Speaker 1: and you can dive into a pile of coins without
Speaker 1: getting hurt. Things you only learn on Fantasy Football Weekly.
Speaker 1: Unless Neil Stevenson is wrong.
Speaker 4: Which is possible.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Baltimore, a team with almost no changes,
Speaker 1: so we're not gonna spend much time here. Kent wide
Speaker 1: receiver DeAndre Hopkins is there, thirty three years old. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure he makes the roster either. Is talking about
Speaker 1: Robert Woods maybe not making his roster. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think Hopkins automatically does.
Speaker 1: Because much like we were talking about with Robert Woods
Speaker 1: so last year, Hopkins is on the Chiefs. They desperately
Speaker 1: need wide out help and that's why they traded for him.
Speaker 1: And all Hopkins did was see his playing time consistently shrink.
Speaker 4: By the end of the year.
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, Hopkins was only on the field for
Speaker 1: thirteen routes, eleven routes and fifteen routes in those three
Speaker 1: playoff games for the Chiefs, and the average just two
Speaker 1: targets and one catch per game in those games. So
Speaker 1: he's on a one year deal, which almost certainly be
Speaker 1: the last year of his contract if he makes the
Speaker 1: team in Baltimore. I don't know that he does. Rashad
Speaker 1: Bateman just got resigned to a long term deal, but
Speaker 1: you already know about him. He does not qualify as
Speaker 1: somebody new to talk about, so we won't spend time there.
Speaker 1: There's no changes at running back, so not really a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about here. I will note this at
Speaker 1: the running back position, Justice Hill quietly turned into a
Speaker 1: terrific pass catching specialist last year. He finished his Pro
Speaker 1: Football focuses number three ranked receiving running back twenty four catches,
Speaker 1: zero drops, three receiving touchdowns ten yards after the catch. Quietly,
Speaker 1: Justice Hill is going to turn into a priority handcuff
Speaker 1: to Derrick Henry because he would have some tremendous upside
Speaker 1: if anything happened.
Speaker 4: God forbid to Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3: I'll push back there a lot go ahead. I like
Speaker 3: I still like Keating Mitchell quite a bit, and he
Speaker 3: had a pretty bad injury that kept him out of
Speaker 3: the majority last season, and Justice Hill is great, or
Speaker 3: at least was great last season. It was one of
Speaker 3: his best, you know, of his seasons with the Ravens
Speaker 3: so far, his vastly highest receiving grade. The other four
Speaker 3: were pretty mediocre at best. And he did get almost
Speaker 3: the same amount of targets in twenty twenty three. So
Speaker 3: he's He's been with the team for a while and
Speaker 3: certainly they leaned into him when when it was working.
Speaker 3: But in terms of rushing I do like Keaton Mitchell
Speaker 3: quite a bit more. He was really dynamic when he
Speaker 3: got the ball two years ago. I hope that they
Speaker 3: can get it back healthy. I've heard the coaches talking
Speaker 3: about trying to get him back healthy. He's important to
Speaker 3: this roster, so I probably and he's probably cheaper, I
Speaker 3: would assume right now than Justice Hill. I don't know
Speaker 3: that for a fact, but for sure that's where my
Speaker 3: lottery ticket would be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, again, it's fine that we differ on this.
Speaker 1: I just feel like Keaton Mitchell's game was all about acceleration,
Speaker 1: cutting all the things that you really need, a good
Speaker 1: healthy need for I need to see it first when
Speaker 1: you come back cl and you know.
Speaker 4: Just some guys.
Speaker 1: You know, some guys come back better than others, and
Speaker 1: we hope Keaton Mitchell comes back. Well, you know what
Speaker 1: else is coming back us to break down the NFC
Speaker 1: North when we come back. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly,
Speaker 1: Paul Charchian.
Speaker 4: And Kent Wyrock with you. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1: We are turning our attention from the AFC North to
Speaker 1: the NFC North, Kent, and for that, let's begin with
Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers. I think a team that looks
Speaker 1: to my eyes to have gotten a bit better that
Speaker 1: in this offseason, and an already very competitive division is
Speaker 1: going to be that much better with the improvements that
Speaker 1: green Bay made, I believe boo oh.
Speaker 3: Wait, oh, sorry, I have to be objective and no,
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Yeah, No, they did improve, and you know,
Speaker 3: obviously they drafted Matthew Golden. I think that was one
Speaker 3: of the biggest talking points of the offseason in the
Speaker 3: first round. He had that four two nine speed coming
Speaker 3: out of college at the Combine, and he had some
Speaker 3: i'll say interesting stats coming out of college. He didn't
Speaker 3: have like the world's best production profile, and I think
Speaker 3: there was a little bit of a divergence in the
Speaker 3: stats versus film community and stuff like that. But he's
Speaker 3: certainly a solid player, and he joins a really solid
Speaker 3: receiving room. The only question I have is, now we
Speaker 3: have a full wide receiver room. We're bringing back the
Speaker 3: four guys from last year, Jayden, Reid, Romeo, Dubbs, DeVante
Speaker 3: excuse me, Dontavian Wicks, and Christian Watson and adding Matthew
Speaker 3: Gold to the mix. So this offense is going to
Speaker 3: be good. But which receiver do you pick on any
Speaker 3: given week? If you're in a re draft league, if
Speaker 3: we're talking best ball, you can probably lean into the
Speaker 3: guy you like best and just punch your ticket there.
Speaker 3: But the biggest beneficiary I see of all of this
Speaker 3: is Jordan Love for sure. So he's got some very
Speaker 3: interesting upside this year. This offense could lead him to
Speaker 3: like a thirty five plus passing touchdown. Here.
Speaker 1: I think my biggest concern, or not my biggest concern
Speaker 1: for rather than the guess who's the receiver?
Speaker 4: Did yours going to be?
Speaker 1: I just like Jordan Love, who's going off the board
Speaker 1: right now, like quarterback Ninetheen, I just think he's being
Speaker 1: vastly vastly underdrafted. And you look at love season last year.
Speaker 1: He had the he had the groin injury, which was
Speaker 1: really debilitating and took the wheels off of him. He
Speaker 1: had been a better rusher the year before, of course,
Speaker 1: but this groin injury lingered all year long and it
Speaker 1: affected his throwing motion, took all the rushing out of
Speaker 1: his game. I think he comes back now with this,
Speaker 1: with this new weapon, and has the opportunity here to be.
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Loved has the opportunity to be a
Speaker 1: top ten fantasy quarterback. And I think he's one of
Speaker 1: the most underdrafted quarterbacks in fantasy football right now.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And going back, I have one quick little quiz
Speaker 3: for you. Last year for the Green Bay Packers, what
Speaker 3: receiver had the most targets and how many targets did
Speaker 3: they have?
Speaker 1: I will go, Jaden read at only like fifty targets
Speaker 1: or sixty five? Tar Wait, our tight ends in our
Speaker 1: tight ends eligible for this?
Speaker 3: I am talking just receivers for this, all right.
Speaker 1: I'll go It's got to be Dobbs or read, but
Speaker 1: I will go, I'll go read sixty five.
Speaker 3: So you're low on the target number. The target number
Speaker 3: was seventy six and the leader was Dantavian Wicks.
Speaker 1: Was it really shot up?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: He had one more than Jayden r Wow. Yep, so
Speaker 3: it was not.
Speaker 1: I I never really even considered him. I'm really surprised.
Speaker 3: It's it's a mystery bag and it's going to be
Speaker 3: tough to assess unless we get you know, either further
Speaker 3: news in camp or God forbidden injury or something like that.
Speaker 3: So uh, like you said, Jordan Love is the guy
Speaker 3: to put your money on right now and and wait
Speaker 3: and see who comes out of the receiver group. If
Speaker 3: you find one at a value on your draft boards
Speaker 3: this year, I'd take them. But I'm not going to
Speaker 3: try and reach reach early for any of these guys
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: No, And Christian Watson's got to prove he's going to
Speaker 1: come back this season from his acl you know. For
Speaker 1: shot me is you know that I think he's completely
Speaker 1: out of this mix. For me, I love the fact
Speaker 1: that Elton Jenkins is going to go back to center.
Speaker 1: They drafted Aaron Banks and I'm taking some of your
Speaker 1: steam here, sorry. They drafted Aaron Banks from the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, a good guard and they're finally going to
Speaker 1: get oh, and they put a second round pick into
Speaker 1: into left tackle.
Speaker 4: I think too.
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that an already capable offensive line,
Speaker 1: and the Packers always seem to like get the most
Speaker 1: out of everybody they draft. There. I get the feeling
Speaker 1: that offensive line for Green Bay is going to be
Speaker 1: potentially really good, like a top six or seven unit
Speaker 1: if everything comes together for them and they stay healthy.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree, and I did have that my
Speaker 3: notes too, And you know, I think the guy that
Speaker 3: they took a tackle was maybe taking a bit a
Speaker 3: bit of ahead of the consensus and for whatever, that's
Speaker 3: where some of these teams are better at scouting than others.
Speaker 3: But you know, they've really gotten a lot of mileage
Speaker 3: out of Zach Tom, They've been pretty good with what
Speaker 3: they've gotten out of Rashid Walker. They've got a good
Speaker 3: unit here, and if the little bit of cycling in
Speaker 3: the interior offensive line doesn't mess them up, yeah, good spot.
Speaker 3: So let's hope that, you know, losing their center doesn't
Speaker 3: give him a wrench. But I do like it overall
Speaker 3: for sure. And let's talk about how or go ahead?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well no, I just you know, Jenkins has plate center.
Speaker 1: I trust him there, and I think this is a
Speaker 1: I just again, I like getting I like getting this
Speaker 1: offensive line back together and people playing where they should.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess your final thing on the Packers is
Speaker 1: going to be marsha On Lloyd.
Speaker 4: But I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: Well, it's yes, you're right in some respects. You know,
Speaker 3: obviously ag Dillon is gone. He was pretty much a
Speaker 3: nothing by the time at the end of his tenure
Speaker 3: there in Green Bay. But you know, we're talking about
Speaker 3: Marshall Lloyd. But I think we might need to talk
Speaker 3: about Emmanuel Wilson too. You know, Marshall Lloyd last year
Speaker 3: was injured. Of course, he had six attempts on the
Speaker 3: on the year before getting injured, he had fifteen rushing yards,
Speaker 3: just fifteen on those six attempts. But he was a
Speaker 3: third rounder last year. And then twenty twenty three undrafted
Speaker 3: free agent Emmanuel Wilson steps in and says, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna run this show back year, and he
Speaker 3: had one hundred and six attempts for five hundred eight
Speaker 3: yards four point eight to carry and four touchdowns. He
Speaker 3: had really good numbers for the Packers. Last year when
Speaker 3: spelling Josh Jacobs, and I think that he at least
Speaker 3: has gotten his name put into the mix of is
Speaker 3: this guy someone we should be giving touches in the
Speaker 3: coaching staff. Whether or not they transition all the way
Speaker 3: back to Marshall Lloyd, I don't think they go one
Speaker 3: hundred percent, and I don't think they drop Wilson back
Speaker 3: to the third without without a second thought. I think
Speaker 3: I think they're thinking it through for sure. And you know,
Speaker 3: right now, in terms of underdog ADP, the public still
Speaker 3: thinks it's Lloyd. He's running back fifty nine, so they're
Speaker 3: not super confident about it or anything. But in Manuel
Speaker 3: Wilson at running back eighty three, I love that value
Speaker 3: and I would probably be taking him on some more
Speaker 3: unique like zero running back builds that are looking for
Speaker 3: those high upside plays. But you know, and when we're
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, who's gonna be the handcuff here,
Speaker 3: I think it matters because Josh Jacobs is coming off
Speaker 3: a three hundred and thirty seven touch season, and you know,
Speaker 3: I did a little bit of kind of analysis on this.
Speaker 3: I was looking at rushing attempts, but the trend holds
Speaker 3: generally speaking, since twenty ten, there's been just one instance
Speaker 3: of a running back with three hundred plus rushing attempts
Speaker 3: increasing the following year. So from three hundred or more
Speaker 3: did they go up or down? And all but one
Speaker 3: went down, and the one that went up was Derrick Henry,
Speaker 3: So he's a little bit of a unicorn in that regard.
Speaker 3: And the average drop off is ninety three fewer rushing attempts,
Speaker 3: which was staggering. And if we look at Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 3: I'll have to pull up the numbers to get get
Speaker 3: it specifically here, but when he had a mountain load
Speaker 3: worth of carries three years ago, he dropped from He
Speaker 3: went from three hundred and forty attempts down to two
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three the following season and missed some
Speaker 3: time with the Raiders. So I don't think there's nothing
Speaker 3: behind the fact that he got a lot of work
Speaker 3: last year and that could lead to some wear and
Speaker 3: tear and potential for in or bringing in fresh legs
Speaker 3: behind him, whether that be Lloyd or Wilson. So just
Speaker 3: an intriguing thing to think through.
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is, as you mentioned, coming off this heavy
Speaker 1: workload season, but he's also in the last year of
Speaker 1: guaranteed money for the Packers. And sometimes when you're in
Speaker 1: the last year of your deal, like the Raiders already
Speaker 1: did to Josh Jacobs's wounds, you just run him into
Speaker 1: the ground because it's somebody else's wear and tear you
Speaker 1: down the road.
Speaker 4: Not yours. It'll be fascinating to watch that.
Speaker 1: Let's go over to the Vikings made some pretty major
Speaker 1: storylines here. The Vikings might have the league's most improved
Speaker 1: offensive line. They were already a decent pass blocking line
Speaker 1: they ranked fifteenth by PFF and they were number two
Speaker 1: in pass block win rate last year, but they were
Speaker 1: a mediocre run blocking line, and that figures to change here.
Speaker 1: They drafted mammoth first round rookie left guard Donovan Jackson.
Speaker 1: Then at center they brought in Indianapolis excellent Indianapolis veteran Kelly.
Speaker 1: He was a PFF seventeenth ranked center, so maybe not excellent,
Speaker 1: but he's good. And then at right guard they brought
Speaker 1: in Will Fryes, also from Indy, widely regarded as the
Speaker 1: best guard in free agency, and he was PFF's fourth
Speaker 1: ranked guard last year. So the Vikings with what seemed
Speaker 1: to be massive improvement guard center guard, and it should
Speaker 1: really affect the running game, which we'll talk about in
Speaker 1: a minute here, But first we have to get to
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. I don't know, and I think I've said
Speaker 1: I've made this basic statement on the show a couple
Speaker 1: of other shows as well, Ken, and maybe even ones
Speaker 1: you've been on. I don't think any quarterback in the
Speaker 1: history of the league, for a first year starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: and he's not a rookie, but he's a first year
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I don't know that anybody's been dropped into
Speaker 1: a more favorable spot to succeed than JJ McCarthy. And
Speaker 1: my rationale goes like this, Yep, the injury last year sucked,
Speaker 1: but he got to learn in the classroom. He took
Speaker 1: tons of VR reps the team, and he got a
Speaker 1: year of quasi coaching, just not on the field coaching
Speaker 1: from Kevin O'Connell, who has produced career best results for
Speaker 1: every quarterback who's ever touched Minnesota, whether it's Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: or Nick Mullins or Josh Dobbs or Sam Darnold, you
Speaker 1: know they've all been at their very best under Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 1: And here comes JJ McCarthy. He's going to drop back
Speaker 1: to pass. He's going to look left. Here's Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: He looks right, Jordan Anderson, Jordan Addison, he looks down
Speaker 1: the scene.
Speaker 4: TJ.
Speaker 1: Hockinson if he needs a dump off Aaron Jones. I mean,
Speaker 1: what a luxury of passing pass receivers that is. And
Speaker 1: the other part of McCarthy's game that people don't talking
Speaker 1: about enough except Thor who does plenty. Dude can run.
Speaker 1: In his last two years at Michigan, he ran one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four times for five hundred yards.
Speaker 4: You know, the kid can run.
Speaker 1: And while Kevin O'Connell rarely asks his quarterbacks to run,
Speaker 1: none of them could run for the most part except Dobbs,
Speaker 1: and he was, you know, only a starter brand full
Speaker 1: of games. So I think, Josh, I think. I think
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is sitting in a spot to be highly impactful,
Speaker 1: more than people realize, and probably early. I'm very optimistic
Speaker 1: going off the board right now, right around quarterback twenty one.
Speaker 1: I think that to me, that feels a little bit low.
Speaker 4: What do you think him?
Speaker 3: Well low, I'll have to process that, but certainly, if
Speaker 3: he's you know, if you're going with a heavier stack
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks and he's your third guy, you can definitely
Speaker 3: lean into that adp and go strong that way. But
Speaker 3: as a second quarterback, I can kind of understand a
Speaker 3: little bit of the hesitation from the community and not
Speaker 3: saying like I'm ready to give him his flowers yet
Speaker 3: he hasn't even played a down. Totally understandable. But if
Speaker 3: we treat him as a rookie stepping into this situation,
Speaker 3: which we agree is wildly beneficial for quarterbacks, I mean
Speaker 3: Sam Donald came in through thirty five touchdowns last year
Speaker 3: and you know, all respect is Sam Donald. He was
Speaker 3: drafted highly. He you know, ran into some issues and
Speaker 3: bounced around the league and you know, maybe he's going
Speaker 3: to go on his own Geno Smith kind of a
Speaker 3: late career adventure, but he still was not the guy
Speaker 3: who was ready to take over a franchise for his own.
Speaker 3: And if JJ McCarthy could be that, we don't know yet.
Speaker 3: So if he is anything above Sam Donald in terms
Speaker 3: of talent, this is all aces man, this is we're
Speaker 3: locked and ready to go. And I think you know,
Speaker 3: the betting markets have us at what is it nine
Speaker 3: and a half win total right now. You know last
Speaker 3: year Sam Donald won fourteen games. That might be an
Speaker 3: over for me. I don't know. I'll have to put
Speaker 3: some money on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vikings schedules really tough, especially like weeks six through
Speaker 1: nine or ten are just brutal. But otherwise, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: really interested. Let's talk running back Jordan Mason for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: We've talked about him in our Undervalued Best ball Player podcast.
Speaker 1: What was it kind of like five or six weeks ago.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Mason is one of the great sleepers
Speaker 1: for this year. He is going to score more Fantasy
Speaker 1: points than Aaron Jones, I'm outright say it here, and
Speaker 1: I think he's got double digit touchdown upside. We talked
Speaker 1: about how much better the Vikings offensive line got between
Speaker 1: guard center guard, and Jordan Mason is going to be
Speaker 1: the power back in this offense, and I believe it's
Speaker 1: going to be very close to a fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: playing time split, which most people don't seem to appreciate here,
Speaker 1: and Mason's going to get the touchdown runs. You know,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones just isn't a pounder. He's just stop built
Speaker 1: for it. His body type just won't let him do that.
Speaker 1: And Mason's twenty pounds more than Jones. His career average
Speaker 1: is five point three yards per carry, granted on pretty
Speaker 1: light workloads. But I just think Mason at this stage
Speaker 1: of their respective careers might be better than Jones. And
Speaker 1: it's going to be the kind of guy that's going
Speaker 1: to be on the field short yardage, first and second
Speaker 1: down and has a chance to be a terrific sleeper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jordan Mason in each of his three years with
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers was at least one yard rushing
Speaker 3: over expectation per attempt. That's ridiculous. Those are insane efficiency metrics.
Speaker 3: And you know, it'd be one thing if he was
Speaker 3: leaving the forty nine ers and going to I don't know,
Speaker 3: the Seahawks or somewhere else. But he's coming to Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 3: He's coming to a great zone rushing offense. There's an
Speaker 3: improved offensive line. There's no reason to believe he can't
Speaker 3: repeat that same efficiency with this offense very similar to
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers style.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's transition over to Detroit, an offense that does
Speaker 1: not have a lot of change. Although we should man,
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see if you start the offensive line,
Speaker 1: which to me is probably the biggest the biggest offseason
Speaker 1: change for me.
Speaker 3: Well, and that is but one other big changes that
Speaker 3: they lost Ben Johnson to the Bear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that's fair.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people associated a lot of
Speaker 3: this offensive prowess coming from Ben Johnson's kind of scheme
Speaker 3: and style. You know, Dan Campbell is a great head coach,
Speaker 3: but you know, whether or not he's an offensive genius,
Speaker 3: I don't think I would believe that comment. So this
Speaker 3: could be a big loss for them. Let's hope that
Speaker 3: it's not. But the new offensive coordinator is a guy
Speaker 3: named John Morton. His last and only offensive coordinator gig
Speaker 3: was with the Jets in twenty seventeen, which was a
Speaker 3: bottom ten offense. But I don't know if you remember
Speaker 3: the Jets back then they at that was Josh McCown
Speaker 3: and then three games of Bryce Petty.
Speaker 4: Can you believe it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff back then. So I'm not going to
Speaker 3: hold it against him, and we'll just kind of find
Speaker 3: if he's going to have a new kind of style
Speaker 3: in mind when he gets here. He's been the passing
Speaker 3: game coordinator for the Broncos for last two years. So
Speaker 3: that's a pretty good situation to come from. And yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll see how that affects things. But certainly the O
Speaker 3: line we got to jump into that because not only
Speaker 3: did Frank Ragnow retire just days ago due to essentially
Speaker 3: injuries and his body not holding up, which is totally
Speaker 3: understandable for an NFL offensive lineman. My goodness, they go
Speaker 3: through the Ringer, but they also lost right guard Kevin
Speaker 3: Ziegler and free agency. They drafted Tate Ratledge fifty seventh
Speaker 3: overall to help step in and he could probably start
Speaker 3: right away. But they're starting left guard right now at
Speaker 3: least based on how PFF hasn't projected, and things could
Speaker 3: change through camp. But is someone called Christian Mahogany who
Speaker 3: was a sixth rounder last year, so that could be
Speaker 3: an issue.
Speaker 4: I've never heard of Christian Mahogany.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I said, that could change in camp.
Speaker 3: So we'll find out a little bit more as time
Speaker 3: goes on. But Glasgow is probably moving back to center.
Speaker 3: He's a veteran, he's solid. But there's two big losses
Speaker 3: on the offensive line for a team that loves to
Speaker 3: run the ball. And you know, if they're going to
Speaker 3: open up some deeper passing attempts, they got a hold
Speaker 3: up for Golf to get, you know, Jamison Williams some
Speaker 3: high eight targets. So you know, things could change pretty
Speaker 3: significantly in this offense. If the timing changes, and if
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator and the scheme changes, we could be
Speaker 3: in for some changes here. But Golf is still in
Speaker 3: a pretty good position getting all his receivers. They re
Speaker 3: signed Tim Patrick. For what it's worth, he was just
Speaker 3: solid for them. He wasn't anything worth talking about in fantasy,
Speaker 3: but in regards to Jared Goff, he's very helpful as
Speaker 3: a third guy behind i'man Rossaint Brown and James Williams.
Speaker 3: And then you know, uh, I guess the next thing
Speaker 3: that I'll talk about is that we get the one
Speaker 3: two punch sho of Jimior Gibbs and David Montgomery coming back.
Speaker 3: I know you love Montgomery. We talked about him in
Speaker 3: the Over Undervalued Best Ball Show. Do you have any
Speaker 3: concerns now that we've had a little bit more shifting
Speaker 3: in the offensive line or do you still think.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't, yeah, if you lose Frank rag
Speaker 1: now I'm concerned because you're it's not hyperbole to say
Speaker 1: that had he played out a full career, he could
Speaker 1: have been Hall of Fame bound. You know, if he'd
Speaker 1: have played thirteen years. You know, that's the that's the
Speaker 1: career arc that he was on.
Speaker 4: He was so good.
Speaker 1: So you know, losing Rag now just a a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a massive loss. And you know where that
Speaker 1: affects David Montgomery is potentially the push inside the five.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things we love about Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell is you get inside the five, that dude's running
Speaker 1: the ball, and you know he just wants to power
Speaker 1: people down. With Montgomery, also with Gibbs, who gets carries
Speaker 1: inside the five two. But you know from Montgomery, that's
Speaker 1: that's really what we're here for, are those those short touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And I'm nervous about them moving the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: the way that they always have in the past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally agree. And to circle back here a little
Speaker 3: bit on the receivers, I did forget to mention they
Speaker 3: also drafted it's Isaac Tesla and he was a third
Speaker 3: rounder and nobody thought he was going to be a
Speaker 3: third rounder heading into the draft. He's got a ridiculous
Speaker 3: athletic upside profile. But you know, he had a nine
Speaker 3: point nine to seven RAS score, which is awesome stuff obviously,
Speaker 3: But you know, he totaled eight hundred and ninety six
Speaker 3: receiving yards and five touchdowns in the two years at Arkansas.
Speaker 3: That's his totals, and before that he was playing at
Speaker 3: a GMAX school for three years called Hillsdale College. Is
Speaker 3: totally a mystery box. And when they stepped up to
Speaker 3: the podium and called his name, there was a lot
Speaker 3: of shock going around the Twitter sphere. So I don't
Speaker 3: think he's anyone that's going to be contributing heavily to
Speaker 3: this offense year one, So I don't. I don't have
Speaker 3: a lot of tabs on him for for redraft or
Speaker 3: best ball or anything this year. But you know, maybe
Speaker 3: with that that athleticism, and I think he's six', four
Speaker 3: he could be someone to watch later if they can
Speaker 3: develop him a little bit, further get him a little
Speaker 3: bit more touches and targets in. Practice but, yeah for,
Speaker 3: Now i'm not going to touch.
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Speaker 1: feel about.
Speaker 4: It all, right let's go over To let's Follow Ben
Speaker 4: johnson Over.
Speaker 1: Chicago his in his three years As troit's offensive, coordinator
Speaker 1: all he did In detroit over three years was ranked
Speaker 1: first in points per, game, first in yards per game,
Speaker 1: first and passing offense per game in, fifth and rushing
Speaker 1: yards per.
Speaker 4: Game that's it's awfully. Impressive he was Believed Ben.
Speaker 1: Johnson everybody believed he was the best coach.
Speaker 4: Available in the off.
Speaker 1: Season chicago made their move on him, early and they
Speaker 1: made a move at the offensive. Line this, is along With,
Speaker 1: minnesota this might be the most improved offensive. Line and
Speaker 1: the offensive line metrics For chicago last year were not.
Speaker 1: Awful they weren't, good but they weren't. Terrible Caleb williams
Speaker 1: put himself in harm's way. Way that dude manufactured his
Speaker 1: own sacks all the. Time but they Added Jonah, Jackson Joe,
Speaker 1: tooney And Drew. Dolloman those ARE pff rankings from last
Speaker 1: year of, fortieth, twelfth and. Fourth that, is you, know
Speaker 1: those are, big big moves for A chicago offensive line
Speaker 1: that's been pretty bad for most of our adult. Lives
Speaker 1: they also put a second rounder into the offensive, line
Speaker 1: Tackle Ozzie, trepillo and he brings massive size to the
Speaker 1: line and only gave up two sacks over the last two.
Speaker 1: Years so this offensive line should be, way way better For.
Speaker 1: Chicago and then at the end of the offensive, line
Speaker 1: they put in tight End colton Loves Loveland Colston, loveland
Speaker 1: and he was the First titan taken in the. Draft
Speaker 1: people didn't expect he would necessarily go. TENTH a little
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise pure pass catching tight end thor
Speaker 1: Compt loveland To Mark. Andrews not a big, blocker but
Speaker 1: he can run through the. Seam they ran him on
Speaker 1: deep routes a lot as well At, michigan and of,
Speaker 1: Note Ben johnson ran two tight end sets at the
Speaker 1: third highest rate in the league last, year and so
Speaker 1: that tells me even if Cole kmet is still part
Speaker 1: of this, Offense loveland's going to be on the, field
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have some opportunities to make make a
Speaker 1: make a quicker transition to the N fell than maybe
Speaker 1: a lot of rookie tight ends.
Speaker 4: Do so we'll watch his.
Speaker 1: Progress I'M i don't think you want to plan to
Speaker 1: go to war with production out Of loveland right. Away
Speaker 1: you have to be kind of at the Brock bauers
Speaker 1: level to do. That but maybe there'll be some opportunities
Speaker 1: for him earlier than people think this.
Speaker 3: Year, yeah we talked about this a little. BIT i
Speaker 3: think he was over valued in The best ball adp
Speaker 3: he WAS i believe tighten nine and it's a little
Speaker 3: too rich for. Me but surely in terms of assisting
Speaker 3: this offense in conjunction with the offensive, Line Caleb, johnson excuse,
Speaker 3: Me Caleb williams better excel this year or at least
Speaker 3: vastly outproduced what he did last.
Speaker 4: Year, anyway you will you know last.
Speaker 1: Year I'M i am ready to Give Caleb williams a
Speaker 1: pretty big pass on last year's. Troubles, again a lot
Speaker 1: of itself was brought on his, own but the coaching
Speaker 1: staff was clearly over their. Head the offensive line was
Speaker 1: not good, enough running game not good, enough although they
Speaker 1: didn't improve in the off, season which is. Weird let's
Speaker 1: go to Rookie luther burdon wide receiver who reminds us
Speaker 1: Of Percy harvin because of the lower body, strength and
Speaker 1: he's gonna he'll run from the slot and keep With
Speaker 1: Keenan allen. Gone there are slot reps to be had In,
Speaker 1: chicago And burden brings just a unique combination of, acceleration, strength.
Speaker 1: Power you just you don't get that out of many.
Speaker 1: Guys there's a little bit Of Deebo samuel in, him
Speaker 1: but the bad, part And i'd Like Deebo. Samuel At,
Speaker 1: missouri it was all short, passes bubble screens at the
Speaker 1: line of, scrimmage behind the line of scrimmage, Passes and
Speaker 1: we don't know yet If Luthor burden is going to
Speaker 1: be a guy who can be successful, downfield and, ultimately
Speaker 1: at the end of the, day to Get.
Speaker 4: Fantasy, points you have to get the ball.
Speaker 1: Downfield So Luthor, burden to me is going to be
Speaker 1: somebody worth, watching but not. Necessarily i'm gonna Somebody i'm
Speaker 1: gonna go out of my way to uh to try to.
Speaker 1: Draft and the only other receiver of Note olamedes is
Speaker 1: a Chas is now In chicago as well A Kent but,
Speaker 1: frankly we don't care with all due respect to The
Speaker 1: olemedies A chaas.
Speaker 3: Family, no, YEAH i, agree and real quick On Luther
Speaker 3: burden that you, know the big thing that we talked
Speaker 3: about during this draft cycle was that his best year
Speaker 3: was actually two years ago rather than last. Year and you,
Speaker 3: know that kind of matches a little bit of what
Speaker 3: we went through with if you, Recalled Jalen rager had
Speaker 3: a pretty similar kind of profile coming, down and granted
Speaker 3: that was out of The big, twelve not THE, sec
Speaker 3: so we have some conference differences going on. There BUT
Speaker 3: i do think That burden can bounce back to what
Speaker 3: he was two years, ago AND i think that he's
Speaker 3: a really elite guy when you get him. Going so
Speaker 3: hopefully that With Ben johnson in, town they can find
Speaker 3: just the right ways to get him involved in the.
Speaker 3: Offense they shouldn't have to rely on him with the
Speaker 3: existing you, know receiving weapons, there WHICH i think is
Speaker 3: great news For burden's. Development. Yeah, Yeah and so he's
Speaker 3: definitely going to try and invest in him in dynasty
Speaker 3: right now for.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah really trying to focus on new. Names but
Speaker 1: let me mention this About Roma dounza in, past and
Speaker 1: he he HAD i believe the second highest missed target
Speaker 1: passing rate from him on passes that came to, HIM
Speaker 1: i should say from you, know From Caleb, williams who
Speaker 1: was just couldn't get the ball into his.
Speaker 4: Hands he's a candidate for an.
Speaker 1: Improvement and then again they didn't make any moves at
Speaker 1: running back of. Note so you, Know DeAndre, Swift i'm
Speaker 1: baffled by. This Ben johnson already benched him once in
Speaker 1: values with The, lions And Roshan johnson hasn't really emerged
Speaker 1: in a meaningful. Way so, yeah not that this ISN'T
Speaker 1: i think this is gonna this is going to be
Speaker 1: a very very pass heavy, offense and that wouldn't that
Speaker 1: would not surprise.
Speaker 3: Us probably my biggest investment right now is In Roshan,
Speaker 3: johnson just because he's cheap and because we know That
Speaker 3: DeAndre swift has his moments where he looks like he's washed. Entirely,
Speaker 3: so you, know if Ros On, johnson you, know he
Speaker 3: hasn't been spectacular or, anything but at a certain, point
Speaker 3: if you just want fresh, blood he's twenty four years,
Speaker 3: old you could still develop him. Further you, Know Ben
Speaker 3: johnson didn't bring anyone new, in so maybe he likes
Speaker 3: what he sees and we'll find out if he gets
Speaker 3: a little bit more. Involved but, yeah he's just so
Speaker 3: cheap it's hard to pass on.
Speaker 1: Him and can what if it turns out That Ben
Speaker 1: johnson is really like the run the ball inside the
Speaker 1: five guy is More Ben johnson than necessarily anybody else
Speaker 1: from The lions, side and, that's you, know more Than Dan.
Speaker 1: Campbell maybe that's really A Ben johnson trade and he's
Speaker 1: going to take that with. Him and if they're going
Speaker 1: to pound the ball inside the, Five Rochean johnson's the
Speaker 1: guy for.
Speaker 3: That that's what he's working.
Speaker 1: For SO i like where you're going on On Rochean,
Speaker 1: johnson like last pick of the.
Speaker 3: Draft, Yeah and if you, know if we're hoping that
Speaker 3: this is an improved offense based on all the stuff
Speaker 3: we've talked, about someone's going to be scoring rushing touchdowns
Speaker 3: and If i'm betting on one between the, two It's Roshan.
Speaker 4: Johnson there you.
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