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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show.

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Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Jargon.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Today we find out whether or not Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers constitutes stupid stuff. Joining me this week, Kent, Why Rock?

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Speaker 1: Hey Ken, Good to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Hey, glad to be back. I know Matt wanted to

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Speaker 3: jump in and talk about some divisions here, but look,

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Speaker 3: when we get Aaron Rodgers news on the AFC North episode,

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Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta get it done.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: It's the timing could not have been better really for

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Speaker 1: this to drop, and it is.

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Speaker 4: An It's it's not unexpected in any way.

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Speaker 1: I think for Aaron Rodgers, Kent, it just came down to, Okay,

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Speaker 1: am I going to end up with Pittsburgh? Or am

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Speaker 1: I going to wait for somebody to get injured and

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Speaker 1: then try to fill in at some point?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely a question. And you know, we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about this in a minute. But Mason Rudolph is not

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Speaker 3: the guy and they need to do something. So he

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Speaker 3: finally decided to sign he's gonna skip a little bit

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Speaker 3: of the OTAs as he's known to do to do Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: exactly that, I guess. You know, honestly, I do the

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Speaker 3: same thing. I totally totally get it from his point

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Speaker 3: of view as a guy in north of forty so right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a little bit like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you get hired by some company and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, i'll see in about six weeks, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go vacation for a while. So, you know, nice for

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Speaker 1: him to be able to do that. I guess we

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Speaker 1: are not in the kitchen, We're not in the closet,

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Speaker 1: spare bedroom this time. I'm very excited to say. And

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Speaker 1: that's still no furniture in Utah house. But spare bedroom

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Speaker 1: is going to be the uh, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: the winner today and hopefully so you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: sound kent. You don't know this yet, I'm a sound

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Speaker 1: quality snob for this show. During this move and all

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Speaker 1: the things that have happened this is it's been a

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Speaker 1: little bit tough on me, not having all my usual

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Speaker 1: you know, studio office set up and just sort of

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Speaker 1: making do where we can appreciate the listeners who have

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Speaker 1: sort of stuck it out during this process as well.

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Speaker 3: I totally understand. And you know, we'll find the new rhythm,

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Speaker 3: the Utah Minnesota connection. It's gonna come to fruition and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna make some good stuff this year.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's break down the AFC and NFC

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Speaker 1: North and I think we should just start with Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the logical starting spot today, Kent.

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Speaker 1: And as we've done for the past, now this will

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Speaker 1: be our fourth or four shows where we break down

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Speaker 1: divisions and highlight what's new from the previous from last season,

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Speaker 1: the key new elements that you need to know for

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Speaker 1: each one of these teams.

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Speaker 4: So let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Pittsburgh, Kent. Let's just go ahead and

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Speaker 1: you know, tear the band aid off and start with

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Speaker 1: start with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it really is suiting that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: but they were at the top of the list. The

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steels are gonna be the first AFC team that

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Speaker 3: We got DK Metcalf coming in, we have George Pickens

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Speaker 3: moving parts going on for the Steelers offense right now.

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Speaker 3: And how Aaron Rodgers coming in to the fold is

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Speaker 3: it's a very interesting situation. And you know, not to

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Speaker 3: So you know, Dan Moore Junior was their left tackle,

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Speaker 3: One Mason McCormick, who I wasn't even aware of to

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Speaker 3: out of seemingly broken situations, Aaron Rodgers is among the

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't know anything about that. Ken.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, age is certainly coming for Rogers in some

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Speaker 3: respects to his NFL career, and so you know, if

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Speaker 3: that'll be very interesting. But you know, bringing in DK metcalf,

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Speaker 3: This is year seven for him. I almost couldn't believe

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Speaker 3: He's super athletic, he's got muscles on top of his muscles.

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Speaker 1: My wife has decided DK Metcalf could tear the head

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's you know, obviously he's he is a.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think one of the things that's

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Speaker 3: Pe sure does. Yeah, and you know, with with George

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Speaker 3: You know, Calvin Austin, He's probably not someone you're really

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Speaker 3: I have it.

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Speaker 1: I don't have an unlimited number of eyes, and I'm

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Speaker 4: It's not going to be on Calvin Austin.

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Speaker 3: Well, instead, can I interest you in one Robert Woods,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you may and may not. I don't believe Robert

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Speaker 1: They have all the injuries, right, Diggs goes out, Tank

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Speaker 1: I don't think Robert Wood's got anything left.

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. He hasn't hit five hundred yards or

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Speaker 3: last two years, I should say. So. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 3: unfortunately he's going to see a lot of double coverage

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Speaker 3: gonna be drafting Anon Rodgers. That's just too much of

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Speaker 3: So that's where I stand. I don't know, do you

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Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson is super divisive among the college football experts.

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Speaker 1: like Caleb Johnson, and I think he will be your interior,

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody knew Caleb Johnson was coming, and defense

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Speaker 1: Everybody knew it was coming. It was going to be

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Speaker 3: biggest thing he's going to do right away. Not much

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Speaker 1: All right, great breakdown on the Steelers. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Lots of change here. Kent start a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: I assume Flacco's going to start the season if it's.

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Speaker 1: Just like the guy who's most ready to be a

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Speaker 1: to Gabriel, they go to Sanders. I don't think any

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, as you may remember, reruptured his achilles tendon

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, every teams are so desperate

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Speaker 3: But speaking well, the Browns aren't desperate. They have like

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Speaker 3: five quarterbacks, right, don't need him?

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Speaker 4: Noney.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know when when ownership came out and

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Speaker 1: you that, like you know they're done with him when

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Speaker 1: Out of this group, I'm drafting none in dynasty and

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Speaker 1: higher leagues. I would I think there's like a round

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Speaker 1: you could throw a dart at Gabriel or Sanders, and

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Speaker 1: probably Sanders would be my choice. But I think this

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Speaker 1: is a situation to avoid at receiver. Not much to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Deontay Johnson is not worthy of note. I

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Speaker 1: will say a tight end, hyper productive college player, Harold

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Speaker 1: Fannon just got drafted into a terrible spot behind David

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Speaker 3: Yes, we got I don't know. I you know, I'll

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Speaker 3: just say I'm shaken in mind in Djoku boots just

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It just took Djoku a while to get going, and

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Speaker 3: he's been very productive, but it's been under the majority

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Speaker 3: of the time under the best passers like Flacco. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's just if we do have a situation where

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Speaker 3: haven't Joku for a little bit while. But if Fannon

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Speaker 3: the entire offense get younger, and that'd be one one

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Speaker 3: avenue to do it. So it's it's not like I

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Speaker 3: don't think Joku's going to finish the season as the

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Speaker 3: starter necessarily, but it's just a little bit like a

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Speaker 3: ten percent scare factor for me.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I I liked Fannin more than I think most scouts

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Speaker 1: the guy who led college football and production to tight end.

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Speaker 4: But Joko's really good, So I don't know, I'm less.

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Speaker 1: I think I feel more secure in drafting in Djoko

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Speaker 1: than than I think you do.

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Speaker 4: And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the running back position because that's the

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Speaker 1: most important one to talk about when you're talking about Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: and we go to a rookie second rounder, Quinche on Judkins.

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Speaker 1: Judkins is the presumed Week one starter, but you know

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Speaker 1: I bet he still continues to get a meaningful number

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Speaker 1: the game on third downs. Now at Ohio state they

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Speaker 1: was almost all like you know, dump off stuff, check downs,

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Speaker 4: I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I think the question is just how long it takes

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Speaker 4: And is that week one?

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Speaker 1: Is it October?

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Speaker 1: These things always seem to go slower than we usually

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Speaker 3: Ken my predictions the Hall of Fame game, and I

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Speaker 3: know they don't even play it. I think he's the one.

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Speaker 3: He's the one out the gates. If not in terms

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Speaker 3: the year goes on, and he's clearly better than Jerome

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Speaker 3: He's just clearly better than them. So it shouldn't take

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Speaker 1: Talking about things that won't take long to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati offseason had almost no meaningful fantasy change.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, maybe the biggest thing we can talk

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Speaker 3: about is last year they had a truly horrific offensive

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Speaker 3: line situation thirty second in past block win rate thirtieth

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Speaker 3: and run block win rate per ESPN. You know, they've

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Speaker 3: made changes. They're lost right guard Alex Kapa, which is

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Speaker 3: probably more of an addition by subtraction. He allowed thirty

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Speaker 3: six pressures in eight sacks. Wasn't very good by PFF

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Speaker 3: block grade and all that stuff, so you know he's

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Speaker 3: being replaced by a veteran. They drafted Dylan Fairchild in

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Speaker 3: the third round. They're making some moves and it's hard

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Speaker 3: to get much worse than it was, but it's still

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Speaker 3: not great. So you know, we'll see if their offensive

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Speaker 3: link and bounce back. But the biggest change is that

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and t Higgins could combine their

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Speaker 3: money and make us Scrooge McDuck money pool. That's something

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Speaker 3: that they could do this year. They might get injured

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Speaker 3: if they're diving into those coins, though, so they got

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Speaker 4: It's a great point.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's there's really not much changes, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's the same old passing offense. They have the same

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Speaker 3: tight end, Mike Sicki coming back. You had a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a bounce back year, but wasn't targeted in

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Speaker 3: the red zone very much. So I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: t Higgins is going to be an elite wide receiver two.

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Speaker 3: He's the best in the league probably, So yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: really great. And the only thing is Tiggins. Excuse me.

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Speaker 3: T Higgins had some health issues last year. He had

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Speaker 3: three different injuries in twenty twenty four, a hamstring sprain

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Speaker 3: But if he's there and playing, it's going to be great.

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Speaker 3: Let's move to the run game instead. Was a little

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Speaker 3: bit more interesting things to talk about, not really, but

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Speaker 3: Ryan who's been gone for two years. He's starting thirty

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Speaker 3: this year though he's definitely getting up there in age. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: non factor for sure. Didn't rush much he was with

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Speaker 3: the Broncos and then the Chiefs, but was still seen

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Speaker 3: thirty five targets for the Chiefs last year, three hundred

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Speaker 3: twenty two receiving yards, fifty six the year prior for

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Speaker 3: do I think he's going to eat into Chase Brown's work?

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Speaker 3: And in my opinion, Chase Brown is wheels up, ready

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Speaker 3: to go. Last year thirteen hundred plus scrimmageyards, eleven total touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I think he smashes both of those numbers. This year

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Speaker 3: he smashes that as well, provided that this offensive line

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Speaker 1: Agreed, I think Chase Brown's being underdrafted. I'm really optimistic

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Speaker 1: about him, and I love that he's evolving as a

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Speaker 1: it hinges on getting anything out of anything better than

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Speaker 1: talking about jumping into a Scrooge McDuck lie like pile

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Speaker 1: is round. So the question is this, Kent, this is

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Speaker 1: your jeopardy moment.

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Speaker 4: Do you know why so.

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Speaker 3: They fit in the gumball machine.

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Speaker 4: I like that answer. I like that answer.

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Speaker 3: The no, I don't know the answer though.

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Speaker 1: The correct answer as I understand it, and I could

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Speaker 4: Book years ago, and Neil Stevenson book. So I appreciate

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Speaker 4: that Neil, in.

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Speaker 1: The olden days of coins harder to counterfeit because it

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Speaker 4: That were perfectly round.

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Speaker 1: And that's also why, by the way, you've got the

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Speaker 4: So that's part one is counterfeiting, and then part.

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Speaker 1: Two is people would they would try to slice off

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Speaker 1: would try to shave off edges and stuff. And that's

437
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Speaker 1: why you've got on the edges of coins. It's you've

438
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Speaker 1: got the beveling on the edges of coins, the little

439
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Speaker 1: stripes on the edges of coins. That was originally because

440
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Speaker 1: they wanted to be able to show if anybody had

441
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Speaker 1: had like chiseled off or filed off edges of the

442
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Speaker 1: coins for the metal.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting.

444
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Speaker 1: There's your there's your answer on why coins aren't sharp

445
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Speaker 1: and you can dive into a pile of coins without

446
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Speaker 1: getting hurt. Things you only learn on Fantasy Football Weekly.

447
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Speaker 1: Unless Neil Stevenson is wrong.

448
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Speaker 4: Which is possible.

449
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Baltimore, a team with almost no changes,

450
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Speaker 1: so we're not gonna spend much time here. Kent wide

451
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: receiver DeAndre Hopkins is there, thirty three years old. I'm

452
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 1: not sure he makes the roster either. Is talking about

453
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Speaker 1: Robert Woods maybe not making his roster. I don't think.

454
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Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think Hopkins automatically does.

455
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Speaker 1: Because much like we were talking about with Robert Woods

456
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Speaker 1: so last year, Hopkins is on the Chiefs. They desperately

457
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Speaker 1: need wide out help and that's why they traded for him.

458
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Speaker 1: And all Hopkins did was see his playing time consistently shrink.

459
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Speaker 4: By the end of the year.

460
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Speaker 1: In the playoffs, Hopkins was only on the field for

461
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Speaker 1: thirteen routes, eleven routes and fifteen routes in those three

462
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Speaker 1: playoff games for the Chiefs, and the average just two

463
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 1: targets and one catch per game in those games. So

464
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Speaker 1: he's on a one year deal, which almost certainly be

465
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Speaker 1: the last year of his contract if he makes the

466
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Speaker 1: team in Baltimore. I don't know that he does. Rashad

467
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: Bateman just got resigned to a long term deal, but

468
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: you already know about him. He does not qualify as

469
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: somebody new to talk about, so we won't spend time there.

470
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: There's no changes at running back, so not really a

471
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: lot to talk about here. I will note this at

472
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Speaker 1: the running back position, Justice Hill quietly turned into a

473
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: terrific pass catching specialist last year. He finished his Pro

474
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Speaker 1: Football focuses number three ranked receiving running back twenty four catches,

475
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: zero drops, three receiving touchdowns ten yards after the catch. Quietly,

476
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: Justice Hill is going to turn into a priority handcuff

477
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Speaker 1: to Derrick Henry because he would have some tremendous upside

478
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Speaker 1: if anything happened.

479
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Speaker 4: God forbid to Derrick Henry.

480
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Speaker 3: I'll push back there a lot go ahead. I like

481
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Speaker 3: I still like Keating Mitchell quite a bit, and he

482
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Speaker 3: had a pretty bad injury that kept him out of

483
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Speaker 3: the majority last season, and Justice Hill is great, or

484
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Speaker 3: at least was great last season. It was one of

485
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Speaker 3: his best, you know, of his seasons with the Ravens

486
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: so far, his vastly highest receiving grade. The other four

487
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: were pretty mediocre at best. And he did get almost

488
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: the same amount of targets in twenty twenty three. So

489
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 3: he's He's been with the team for a while and

490
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: certainly they leaned into him when when it was working.

491
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Speaker 3: But in terms of rushing I do like Keaton Mitchell

492
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Speaker 3: quite a bit more. He was really dynamic when he

493
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Speaker 3: got the ball two years ago. I hope that they

494
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Speaker 3: can get it back healthy. I've heard the coaches talking

495
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 3: about trying to get him back healthy. He's important to

496
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Speaker 3: this roster, so I probably and he's probably cheaper, I

497
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: would assume right now than Justice Hill. I don't know

498
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Speaker 3: that for a fact, but for sure that's where my

499
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: lottery ticket would be.

500
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, again, it's fine that we differ on this.

501
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Speaker 1: I just feel like Keaton Mitchell's game was all about acceleration,

502
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: cutting all the things that you really need, a good

503
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: healthy need for I need to see it first when

504
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Speaker 1: you come back cl and you know.

505
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Speaker 4: Just some guys.

506
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Speaker 1: You know, some guys come back better than others, and

507
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: we hope Keaton Mitchell comes back. Well, you know what

508
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Speaker 1: else is coming back us to break down the NFC

509
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Speaker 1: North when we come back. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly,

510
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Speaker 1: Paul Charchian.

511
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Speaker 4: And Kent Wyrock with you. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: We are turning our attention from the AFC North to

513
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Speaker 1: the NFC North, Kent, and for that, let's begin with

514
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Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers. I think a team that looks

515
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Speaker 1: to my eyes to have gotten a bit better that

516
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Speaker 1: in this offseason, and an already very competitive division is

517
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: going to be that much better with the improvements that

518
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Speaker 1: green Bay made, I believe boo oh.

519
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Speaker 3: Wait, oh, sorry, I have to be objective and no,

520
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Yeah, No, they did improve, and you know,

521
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: obviously they drafted Matthew Golden. I think that was one

522
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Speaker 3: of the biggest talking points of the offseason in the

523
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Speaker 3: first round. He had that four two nine speed coming

524
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Speaker 3: out of college at the Combine, and he had some

525
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: i'll say interesting stats coming out of college. He didn't

526
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: have like the world's best production profile, and I think

527
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: there was a little bit of a divergence in the

528
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: stats versus film community and stuff like that. But he's

529
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: certainly a solid player, and he joins a really solid

530
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: receiving room. The only question I have is, now we

531
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: have a full wide receiver room. We're bringing back the

532
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 3: four guys from last year, Jayden, Reid, Romeo, Dubbs, DeVante

533
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: excuse me, Dontavian Wicks, and Christian Watson and adding Matthew

534
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 3: Gold to the mix. So this offense is going to

535
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Speaker 3: be good. But which receiver do you pick on any

536
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: given week? If you're in a re draft league, if

537
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: we're talking best ball, you can probably lean into the

538
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: guy you like best and just punch your ticket there.

539
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: But the biggest beneficiary I see of all of this

540
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: is Jordan Love for sure. So he's got some very

541
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: interesting upside this year. This offense could lead him to

542
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 3: like a thirty five plus passing touchdown. Here.

543
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: I think my biggest concern, or not my biggest concern

544
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: for rather than the guess who's the receiver?

545
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: Did yours going to be?

546
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Speaker 1: I just like Jordan Love, who's going off the board

547
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: right now, like quarterback Ninetheen, I just think he's being

548
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: vastly vastly underdrafted. And you look at love season last year.

549
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 1: He had the he had the groin injury, which was

550
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: really debilitating and took the wheels off of him. He

551
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: had been a better rusher the year before, of course,

552
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: but this groin injury lingered all year long and it

553
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: affected his throwing motion, took all the rushing out of

554
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: his game. I think he comes back now with this,

555
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: with this new weapon, and has the opportunity here to be.

556
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Loved has the opportunity to be a

557
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: top ten fantasy quarterback. And I think he's one of

558
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: the most underdrafted quarterbacks in fantasy football right now.

559
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And going back, I have one quick little quiz

560
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Speaker 3: for you. Last year for the Green Bay Packers, what

561
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: receiver had the most targets and how many targets did

562
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: they have?

563
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: I will go, Jaden read at only like fifty targets

564
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: or sixty five? Tar Wait, our tight ends in our

565
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: tight ends eligible for this?

566
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: I am talking just receivers for this, all right.

567
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: I'll go It's got to be Dobbs or read, but

568
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: I will go, I'll go read sixty five.

569
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: So you're low on the target number. The target number

570
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: was seventy six and the leader was Dantavian Wicks.

571
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: Was it really shot up?

572
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

573
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: He had one more than Jayden r Wow. Yep, so

574
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: it was not.

575
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: I I never really even considered him. I'm really surprised.

576
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: It's it's a mystery bag and it's going to be

577
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: tough to assess unless we get you know, either further

578
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: news in camp or God forbidden injury or something like that.

579
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: So uh, like you said, Jordan Love is the guy

580
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: to put your money on right now and and wait

581
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: and see who comes out of the receiver group. If

582
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: you find one at a value on your draft boards

583
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: this year, I'd take them. But I'm not going to

584
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: try and reach reach early for any of these guys

585
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: right now.

586
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: No, And Christian Watson's got to prove he's going to

587
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: come back this season from his acl you know. For

588
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: shot me is you know that I think he's completely

589
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: out of this mix. For me, I love the fact

590
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: that Elton Jenkins is going to go back to center.

591
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: They drafted Aaron Banks and I'm taking some of your

592
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: steam here, sorry. They drafted Aaron Banks from the forty

593
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: nine ers, a good guard and they're finally going to

594
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: get oh, and they put a second round pick into

595
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: into left tackle.

596
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 4: I think too.

597
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that an already capable offensive line,

598
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: and the Packers always seem to like get the most

599
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: out of everybody they draft. There. I get the feeling

600
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: that offensive line for Green Bay is going to be

601
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: potentially really good, like a top six or seven unit

602
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: if everything comes together for them and they stay healthy.

603
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Speaker 4: What do you think?

604
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree, and I did have that my

605
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: notes too, And you know, I think the guy that

606
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: they took a tackle was maybe taking a bit a

607
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: bit of ahead of the consensus and for whatever, that's

608
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: where some of these teams are better at scouting than others.

609
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: But you know, they've really gotten a lot of mileage

610
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: out of Zach Tom, They've been pretty good with what

611
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: they've gotten out of Rashid Walker. They've got a good

612
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: unit here, and if the little bit of cycling in

613
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: the interior offensive line doesn't mess them up, yeah, good spot.

614
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: So let's hope that, you know, losing their center doesn't

615
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: give him a wrench. But I do like it overall

616
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: for sure. And let's talk about how or go ahead?

617
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: Go ahead?

618
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

619
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: Well no, I just you know, Jenkins has plate center.

620
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: I trust him there, and I think this is a

621
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: I just again, I like getting I like getting this

622
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: offensive line back together and people playing where they should.

623
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess your final thing on the Packers is

624
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: going to be marsha On Lloyd.

625
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: But I could be wrong.

626
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, it's yes, you're right in some respects. You know,

627
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: obviously ag Dillon is gone. He was pretty much a

628
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 3: nothing by the time at the end of his tenure

629
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: there in Green Bay. But you know, we're talking about

630
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: Marshall Lloyd. But I think we might need to talk

631
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: about Emmanuel Wilson too. You know, Marshall Lloyd last year

632
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: was injured. Of course, he had six attempts on the

633
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: on the year before getting injured, he had fifteen rushing yards,

634
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: just fifteen on those six attempts. But he was a

635
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: third rounder last year. And then twenty twenty three undrafted

636
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: free agent Emmanuel Wilson steps in and says, hey, I'm

637
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna run this show back year, and he

638
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: had one hundred and six attempts for five hundred eight

639
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: yards four point eight to carry and four touchdowns. He

640
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: had really good numbers for the Packers. Last year when

641
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: spelling Josh Jacobs, and I think that he at least

642
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: has gotten his name put into the mix of is

643
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: this guy someone we should be giving touches in the

644
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: coaching staff. Whether or not they transition all the way

645
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: back to Marshall Lloyd, I don't think they go one

646
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: hundred percent, and I don't think they drop Wilson back

647
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: to the third without without a second thought. I think

648
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: I think they're thinking it through for sure. And you know,

649
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: right now, in terms of underdog ADP, the public still

650
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: thinks it's Lloyd. He's running back fifty nine, so they're

651
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: not super confident about it or anything. But in Manuel

652
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: Wilson at running back eighty three, I love that value

653
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: and I would probably be taking him on some more

654
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: unique like zero running back builds that are looking for

655
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: those high upside plays. But you know, and when we're

656
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Speaker 3: talking about, you know, who's gonna be the handcuff here,

657
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Speaker 3: I think it matters because Josh Jacobs is coming off

658
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Speaker 3: a three hundred and thirty seven touch season, and you know,

659
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Speaker 3: I did a little bit of kind of analysis on this.

660
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: I was looking at rushing attempts, but the trend holds

661
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Speaker 3: generally speaking, since twenty ten, there's been just one instance

662
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Speaker 3: of a running back with three hundred plus rushing attempts

663
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: increasing the following year. So from three hundred or more

664
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Speaker 3: did they go up or down? And all but one

665
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: went down, and the one that went up was Derrick Henry,

666
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Speaker 3: So he's a little bit of a unicorn in that regard.

667
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Speaker 3: And the average drop off is ninety three fewer rushing attempts,

668
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Speaker 3: which was staggering. And if we look at Josh Jacobs,

669
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Speaker 3: I'll have to pull up the numbers to get get

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Speaker 3: it specifically here, but when he had a mountain load

671
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: worth of carries three years ago, he dropped from He

672
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Speaker 3: went from three hundred and forty attempts down to two

673
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three the following season and missed some

674
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Speaker 3: time with the Raiders. So I don't think there's nothing

675
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: behind the fact that he got a lot of work

676
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: last year and that could lead to some wear and

677
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: tear and potential for in or bringing in fresh legs

678
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: behind him, whether that be Lloyd or Wilson. So just

679
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: an intriguing thing to think through.

680
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is, as you mentioned, coming off this heavy

681
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Speaker 1: workload season, but he's also in the last year of

682
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: guaranteed money for the Packers. And sometimes when you're in

683
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: the last year of your deal, like the Raiders already

684
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: did to Josh Jacobs's wounds, you just run him into

685
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Speaker 1: the ground because it's somebody else's wear and tear you

686
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Speaker 1: down the road.

687
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Speaker 4: Not yours. It'll be fascinating to watch that.

688
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Speaker 1: Let's go over to the Vikings made some pretty major

689
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: storylines here. The Vikings might have the league's most improved

690
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: offensive line. They were already a decent pass blocking line

691
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: they ranked fifteenth by PFF and they were number two

692
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: in pass block win rate last year, but they were

693
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: a mediocre run blocking line, and that figures to change here.

694
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Speaker 1: They drafted mammoth first round rookie left guard Donovan Jackson.

695
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: Then at center they brought in Indianapolis excellent Indianapolis veteran Kelly.

696
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: He was a PFF seventeenth ranked center, so maybe not excellent,

697
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: but he's good. And then at right guard they brought

698
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: in Will Fryes, also from Indy, widely regarded as the

699
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: best guard in free agency, and he was PFF's fourth

700
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: ranked guard last year. So the Vikings with what seemed

701
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: to be massive improvement guard center guard, and it should

702
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: really affect the running game, which we'll talk about in

703
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Speaker 1: a minute here, But first we have to get to

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. I don't know, and I think I've said

705
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Speaker 1: I've made this basic statement on the show a couple

706
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Speaker 1: of other shows as well, Ken, and maybe even ones

707
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: you've been on. I don't think any quarterback in the

708
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: history of the league, for a first year starting quarterback,

709
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: and he's not a rookie, but he's a first year

710
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I don't know that anybody's been dropped into

711
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: a more favorable spot to succeed than JJ McCarthy. And

712
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: my rationale goes like this, Yep, the injury last year sucked,

713
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: but he got to learn in the classroom. He took

714
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: tons of VR reps the team, and he got a

715
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: year of quasi coaching, just not on the field coaching

716
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: from Kevin O'Connell, who has produced career best results for

717
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: every quarterback who's ever touched Minnesota, whether it's Kirk Cousins

718
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: or Nick Mullins or Josh Dobbs or Sam Darnold, you

719
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: know they've all been at their very best under Kevin O'Connell.

720
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Speaker 1: And here comes JJ McCarthy. He's going to drop back

721
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Speaker 1: to pass. He's going to look left. Here's Justin Jefferson.

722
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: He looks right, Jordan Anderson, Jordan Addison, he looks down

723
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Speaker 1: the scene.

724
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Speaker 4: TJ.

725
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: Hockinson if he needs a dump off Aaron Jones. I mean,

726
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: what a luxury of passing pass receivers that is. And

727
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: the other part of McCarthy's game that people don't talking

728
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: about enough except Thor who does plenty. Dude can run.

729
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: In his last two years at Michigan, he ran one

730
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four times for five hundred yards.

731
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Speaker 4: You know, the kid can run.

732
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Speaker 1: And while Kevin O'Connell rarely asks his quarterbacks to run,

733
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Speaker 1: none of them could run for the most part except Dobbs,

734
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Speaker 1: and he was, you know, only a starter brand full

735
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Speaker 1: of games. So I think, Josh, I think. I think

736
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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is sitting in a spot to be highly impactful,

737
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: more than people realize, and probably early. I'm very optimistic

738
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: going off the board right now, right around quarterback twenty one.

739
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: I think that to me, that feels a little bit low.

740
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Speaker 4: What do you think him?

741
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Speaker 3: Well low, I'll have to process that, but certainly, if

742
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 3: he's you know, if you're going with a heavier stack

743
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks and he's your third guy, you can definitely

744
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: lean into that adp and go strong that way. But

745
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: as a second quarterback, I can kind of understand a

746
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: little bit of the hesitation from the community and not

747
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: saying like I'm ready to give him his flowers yet

748
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: he hasn't even played a down. Totally understandable. But if

749
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: we treat him as a rookie stepping into this situation,

750
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: which we agree is wildly beneficial for quarterbacks, I mean

751
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: Sam Donald came in through thirty five touchdowns last year

752
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: and you know, all respect is Sam Donald. He was

753
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: drafted highly. He you know, ran into some issues and

754
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: bounced around the league and you know, maybe he's going

755
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: to go on his own Geno Smith kind of a

756
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: late career adventure, but he still was not the guy

757
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: who was ready to take over a franchise for his own.

758
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: And if JJ McCarthy could be that, we don't know yet.

759
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: So if he is anything above Sam Donald in terms

760
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 3: of talent, this is all aces man, this is we're

761
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: locked and ready to go. And I think you know,

762
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: the betting markets have us at what is it nine

763
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: and a half win total right now. You know last

764
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: year Sam Donald won fourteen games. That might be an

765
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Speaker 3: over for me. I don't know. I'll have to put

766
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Speaker 3: some money on that.

767
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Vikings schedules really tough, especially like weeks six through

768
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: nine or ten are just brutal. But otherwise, yeah, I'm

769
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Speaker 1: really interested. Let's talk running back Jordan Mason for the Vikings.

770
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Speaker 1: We've talked about him in our Undervalued Best ball Player podcast.

771
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: What was it kind of like five or six weeks ago.

772
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Speaker 4: Yep.

773
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Speaker 1: I think Jordan Mason is one of the great sleepers

774
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Speaker 1: for this year. He is going to score more Fantasy

775
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: points than Aaron Jones, I'm outright say it here, and

776
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I think he's got double digit touchdown upside. We talked

777
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: about how much better the Vikings offensive line got between

778
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: guard center guard, and Jordan Mason is going to be

779
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: the power back in this offense, and I believe it's

780
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Speaker 1: going to be very close to a fifty to fifty

781
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: playing time split, which most people don't seem to appreciate here,

782
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: and Mason's going to get the touchdown runs. You know,

783
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones just isn't a pounder. He's just stop built

784
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: for it. His body type just won't let him do that.

785
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: And Mason's twenty pounds more than Jones. His career average

786
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: is five point three yards per carry, granted on pretty

787
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: light workloads. But I just think Mason at this stage

788
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: of their respective careers might be better than Jones. And

789
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be the kind of guy that's going

790
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: to be on the field short yardage, first and second

791
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: down and has a chance to be a terrific sleeper.

792
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jordan Mason in each of his three years with

793
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers was at least one yard rushing

794
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 3: over expectation per attempt. That's ridiculous. Those are insane efficiency metrics.

795
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Speaker 3: And you know, it'd be one thing if he was

796
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Speaker 3: leaving the forty nine ers and going to I don't know,

797
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: the Seahawks or somewhere else. But he's coming to Kevin O'Connell.

798
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: He's coming to a great zone rushing offense. There's an

799
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: improved offensive line. There's no reason to believe he can't

800
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: repeat that same efficiency with this offense very similar to

801
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers style.

802
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: Okay, let's transition over to Detroit, an offense that does

803
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: not have a lot of change. Although we should man,

804
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see if you start the offensive line,

805
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: which to me is probably the biggest the biggest offseason

806
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: change for me.

807
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: Well, and that is but one other big changes that

808
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: they lost Ben Johnson to the Bear.

809
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that's fair.

810
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people associated a lot of

811
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Speaker 3: this offensive prowess coming from Ben Johnson's kind of scheme

812
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: and style. You know, Dan Campbell is a great head coach,

813
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 3: but you know, whether or not he's an offensive genius,

814
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: I don't think I would believe that comment. So this

815
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: could be a big loss for them. Let's hope that

816
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: it's not. But the new offensive coordinator is a guy

817
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: named John Morton. His last and only offensive coordinator gig

818
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: was with the Jets in twenty seventeen, which was a

819
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 3: bottom ten offense. But I don't know if you remember

820
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: the Jets back then they at that was Josh McCown

821
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: and then three games of Bryce Petty.

822
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: Can you believe it?

823
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff back then. So I'm not going to

824
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: hold it against him, and we'll just kind of find

825
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: if he's going to have a new kind of style

826
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: in mind when he gets here. He's been the passing

827
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: game coordinator for the Broncos for last two years. So

828
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: that's a pretty good situation to come from. And yeah,

829
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: we'll see how that affects things. But certainly the O

830
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: line we got to jump into that because not only

831
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: did Frank Ragnow retire just days ago due to essentially

832
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: injuries and his body not holding up, which is totally

833
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: understandable for an NFL offensive lineman. My goodness, they go

834
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: through the Ringer, but they also lost right guard Kevin

835
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: Ziegler and free agency. They drafted Tate Ratledge fifty seventh

836
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: overall to help step in and he could probably start

837
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: right away. But they're starting left guard right now at

838
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: least based on how PFF hasn't projected, and things could

839
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: change through camp. But is someone called Christian Mahogany who

840
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: was a sixth rounder last year, so that could be

841
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: an issue.

842
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: I've never heard of Christian Mahogany.

843
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I said, that could change in camp.

844
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: So we'll find out a little bit more as time

845
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: goes on. But Glasgow is probably moving back to center.

846
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: He's a veteran, he's solid. But there's two big losses

847
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: on the offensive line for a team that loves to

848
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: run the ball. And you know, if they're going to

849
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: open up some deeper passing attempts, they got a hold

850
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: up for Golf to get, you know, Jamison Williams some

851
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 3: high eight targets. So you know, things could change pretty

852
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: significantly in this offense. If the timing changes, and if

853
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator and the scheme changes, we could be

854
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: in for some changes here. But Golf is still in

855
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: a pretty good position getting all his receivers. They re

856
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: signed Tim Patrick. For what it's worth, he was just

857
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: solid for them. He wasn't anything worth talking about in fantasy,

858
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 3: but in regards to Jared Goff, he's very helpful as

859
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: a third guy behind i'man Rossaint Brown and James Williams.

860
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: And then you know, uh, I guess the next thing

861
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: that I'll talk about is that we get the one

862
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 3: two punch sho of Jimior Gibbs and David Montgomery coming back.

863
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: I know you love Montgomery. We talked about him in

864
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 3: the Over Undervalued Best Ball Show. Do you have any

865
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: concerns now that we've had a little bit more shifting

866
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: in the offensive line or do you still think.

867
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't, yeah, if you lose Frank rag

868
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: now I'm concerned because you're it's not hyperbole to say

869
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: that had he played out a full career, he could

870
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: have been Hall of Fame bound. You know, if he'd

871
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: have played thirteen years. You know, that's the that's the

872
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: career arc that he was on.

873
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: He was so good.

874
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: So you know, losing Rag now just a a it's

875
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: a it's a massive loss. And you know where that

876
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: affects David Montgomery is potentially the push inside the five.

877
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things we love about Dan

878
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Campbell is you get inside the five, that dude's running

879
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: the ball, and you know he just wants to power

880
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: people down. With Montgomery, also with Gibbs, who gets carries

881
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: inside the five two. But you know from Montgomery, that's

882
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: that's really what we're here for, are those those short touchdowns.

883
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: And I'm nervous about them moving the line of scrimmage

884
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: the way that they always have in the past.

885
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally agree. And to circle back here a little

886
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: bit on the receivers, I did forget to mention they

887
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: also drafted it's Isaac Tesla and he was a third

888
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: rounder and nobody thought he was going to be a

889
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: third rounder heading into the draft. He's got a ridiculous

890
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: athletic upside profile. But you know, he had a nine

891
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: point nine to seven RAS score, which is awesome stuff obviously,

892
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: But you know, he totaled eight hundred and ninety six

893
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: receiving yards and five touchdowns in the two years at Arkansas.

894
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: That's his totals, and before that he was playing at

895
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: a GMAX school for three years called Hillsdale College. Is

896
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: totally a mystery box. And when they stepped up to

897
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: the podium and called his name, there was a lot

898
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 3: of shock going around the Twitter sphere. So I don't

899
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: think he's anyone that's going to be contributing heavily to

900
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: this offense year one, So I don't. I don't have

901
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: a lot of tabs on him for for redraft or

902
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 3: best ball or anything this year. But you know, maybe

903
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: with that that athleticism, and I think he's six', four

904
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: he could be someone to watch later if they can

905
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: develop him a little bit, further get him a little

906
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: bit more touches and targets in. Practice but, yeah for,

907
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: Now i'm not going to touch.

908
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: Him.

909
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: YEAH i remember people being shocked that taste law went

910
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: as fast as early a Tesla is It.

911
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: TESLA i THINK i remember it not Being. Tesla there's

912
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: some Other tesla or something like. That find THAT i.

913
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: Remember people being shocked that he went as early as

914
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: he did. It long term project is how most people

915
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: feel about.

916
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: It all, right let's go over To let's Follow Ben

917
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: johnson Over.

918
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Chicago his in his three years As troit's offensive, coordinator

919
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: all he did In detroit over three years was ranked

920
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: first in points per, game, first in yards per game,

921
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: first and passing offense per game in, fifth and rushing

922
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: yards per.

923
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 4: Game that's it's awfully. Impressive he was Believed Ben.

924
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: Johnson everybody believed he was the best coach.

925
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: Available in the off.

926
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: Season chicago made their move on him, early and they

927
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: made a move at the offensive. Line this, is along With,

928
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: minnesota this might be the most improved offensive. Line and

929
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line metrics For chicago last year were not.

930
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: Awful they weren't, good but they weren't. Terrible Caleb williams

931
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: put himself in harm's way. Way that dude manufactured his

932
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: own sacks all the. Time but they Added Jonah, Jackson Joe,

933
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: tooney And Drew. Dolloman those ARE pff rankings from last

934
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: year of, fortieth, twelfth and. Fourth that, is you, know

935
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: those are, big big moves for A chicago offensive line

936
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: that's been pretty bad for most of our adult. Lives

937
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: they also put a second rounder into the offensive, line

938
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: Tackle Ozzie, trepillo and he brings massive size to the

939
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: line and only gave up two sacks over the last two.

940
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: Years so this offensive line should be, way way better For.

941
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: Chicago and then at the end of the offensive, line

942
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: they put in tight End colton Loves Loveland Colston, loveland

943
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: and he was the First titan taken in the. Draft

944
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: people didn't expect he would necessarily go. TENTH a little

945
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise pure pass catching tight end thor

946
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: Compt loveland To Mark. Andrews not a big, blocker but

947
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: he can run through the. Seam they ran him on

948
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: deep routes a lot as well At, michigan and of,

949
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Note Ben johnson ran two tight end sets at the

950
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: third highest rate in the league last, year and so

951
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: that tells me even if Cole kmet is still part

952
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: of this, Offense loveland's going to be on the, field

953
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have some opportunities to make make a

954
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: make a quicker transition to the N fell than maybe

955
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: a lot of rookie tight ends.

956
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: Do so we'll watch his.

957
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: Progress I'M i don't think you want to plan to

958
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: go to war with production out Of loveland right. Away

959
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: you have to be kind of at the Brock bauers

960
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: level to do. That but maybe there'll be some opportunities

961
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: for him earlier than people think this.

962
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: Year, yeah we talked about this a little. BIT i

963
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: think he was over valued in The best ball adp

964
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 3: he WAS i believe tighten nine and it's a little

965
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: too rich for. Me but surely in terms of assisting

966
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: this offense in conjunction with the offensive, Line Caleb, johnson excuse,

967
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: Me Caleb williams better excel this year or at least

968
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: vastly outproduced what he did last.

969
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 4: Year, anyway you will you know last.

970
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: Year I'M i am ready to Give Caleb williams a

971
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: pretty big pass on last year's. Troubles, again a lot

972
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: of itself was brought on his, own but the coaching

973
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: staff was clearly over their. Head the offensive line was

974
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: not good, enough running game not good, enough although they

975
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: didn't improve in the off, season which is. Weird let's

976
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: go to Rookie luther burdon wide receiver who reminds us

977
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Of Percy harvin because of the lower body, strength and

978
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna he'll run from the slot and keep With

979
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: Keenan allen. Gone there are slot reps to be had In,

980
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: chicago And burden brings just a unique combination of, acceleration, strength.

981
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: Power you just you don't get that out of many.

982
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Guys there's a little bit Of Deebo samuel in, him

983
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: but the bad, part And i'd Like Deebo. Samuel At,

984
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: missouri it was all short, passes bubble screens at the

985
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: line of, scrimmage behind the line of scrimmage, Passes and

986
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: we don't know yet If Luthor burden is going to

987
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 1: be a guy who can be successful, downfield and, ultimately

988
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the, day to Get.

989
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: Fantasy, points you have to get the ball.

990
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: Downfield So Luthor, burden to me is going to be

991
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: somebody worth, watching but not. Necessarily i'm gonna Somebody i'm

992
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna go out of my way to uh to try to.

993
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: Draft and the only other receiver of Note olamedes is

994
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: a Chas is now In chicago as well A Kent but,

995
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: frankly we don't care with all due respect to The

996
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: olemedies A chaas.

997
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: Family, no, YEAH i, agree and real quick On Luther

998
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: burden that you, know the big thing that we talked

999
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: about during this draft cycle was that his best year

1000
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: was actually two years ago rather than last. Year and you,

1001
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: know that kind of matches a little bit of what

1002
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: we went through with if you, Recalled Jalen rager had

1003
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: a pretty similar kind of profile coming, down and granted

1004
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: that was out of The big, twelve not THE, sec

1005
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: so we have some conference differences going on. There BUT

1006
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: i do think That burden can bounce back to what

1007
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 3: he was two years, ago AND i think that he's

1008
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 3: a really elite guy when you get him. Going so

1009
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: hopefully that With Ben johnson in, town they can find

1010
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: just the right ways to get him involved in the.

1011
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: Offense they shouldn't have to rely on him with the

1012
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: existing you, know receiving weapons, there WHICH i think is

1013
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: great news For burden's. Development. Yeah, Yeah and so he's

1014
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: definitely going to try and invest in him in dynasty

1015
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: right now for.

1016
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah really trying to focus on new. Names but

1017
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: let me mention this About Roma dounza in, past and

1018
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: he he HAD i believe the second highest missed target

1019
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: passing rate from him on passes that came to, HIM

1020
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: i should say from you, know From Caleb, williams who

1021
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: was just couldn't get the ball into his.

1022
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: Hands he's a candidate for an.

1023
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: Improvement and then again they didn't make any moves at

1024
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: running back of. Note so you, Know DeAndre, Swift i'm

1025
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: baffled by. This Ben johnson already benched him once in

1026
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: values with The, lions And Roshan johnson hasn't really emerged

1027
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: in a meaningful. Way so, yeah not that this ISN'T

1028
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: i think this is gonna this is going to be

1029
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: a very very pass heavy, offense and that wouldn't that

1030
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: would not surprise.

1031
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: Us probably my biggest investment right now is In Roshan,

1032
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: johnson just because he's cheap and because we know That

1033
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: DeAndre swift has his moments where he looks like he's washed. Entirely,

1034
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: so you, know if Ros On, johnson you, know he

1035
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: hasn't been spectacular or, anything but at a certain, point

1036
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: if you just want fresh, blood he's twenty four years,

1037
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: old you could still develop him. Further you, Know Ben

1038
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: johnson didn't bring anyone new, in so maybe he likes

1039
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: what he sees and we'll find out if he gets

1040
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 3: a little bit more. Involved but, yeah he's just so

1041
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: cheap it's hard to pass on.

1042
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: Him and can what if it turns out That Ben

1043
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: johnson is really like the run the ball inside the

1044
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: five guy is More Ben johnson than necessarily anybody else

1045
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: from The lions, side and, that's you, know more Than Dan.

1046
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: Campbell maybe that's really A Ben johnson trade and he's

1047
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: going to take that with. Him and if they're going

1048
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: to pound the ball inside the, Five Rochean johnson's the

1049
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: guy for.

1050
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: That that's what he's working.

1051
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: For SO i like where you're going on On Rochean,

1052
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: johnson like last pick of the.

1053
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: Draft, Yeah and if you, know if we're hoping that

1054
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: this is an improved offense based on all the stuff

1055
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: we've talked, about someone's going to be scoring rushing touchdowns

1056
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 3: and If i'm betting on one between the, two It's Roshan.

1057
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 4: Johnson there you.

1058
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: Go thanks for listening everybody to this episode Of Fantasy Football.

1059
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: Weekly more coming next, week of, Course but now we've

1060
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: run through all the, divisions we've broken down all the

1061
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: new stuff from every team has been a ton of,

1062
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: fun AND i feel Like i'm you, know we're tracking

1063
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: it obviously pretty closely all off season, anyway BUT i

1064
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: feel like everything's all crystallized through four episodes of these,

1065
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: things and so hopefully that's gonna hopefully that's the case

1066
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: for listeners as. Well can we're back next? WEEK i believe,

1067
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: correct that is.

1068
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: Correct we're gonna be talking last pick of the, draft so.

1069
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: N'll find out right it's a perfect.

1070
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: Transition Ro Shawn, johnson will you appear next week as?

1071
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: Well? Well maybe just mode our own lawn right.

1072
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: There, uh find out next week when we come back

1073
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,239
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1074
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