1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is intergalactic John. This is Airlien Salm on the 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: International Okay Storytime podcast station, and we have some human 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: stories coming up, not alien, but before we make a landing, 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: stick around for this two minute not alien ad break 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: before we get to these interstellar stories. O. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: My wife had a wild phase before marriage, and now 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: I feel left out. 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: Time to go back in Zime. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: I've been married to my wife for five years, together 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 4: for eight, and we have two beautiful children. She's been 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 4: my first everything, my first girlfriend, my first real relationship, 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 4: my first in every sense. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: She was the first person to breastfeed. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: You that you can remember, probably hmmm, that you could remember. 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 4: I didn't really date in high school or college because honestly, 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 4: I didn't take care of myself. I lacked confidence and 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: didn't feel attractive, so I stayed focused on other things 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: like studying the Blade. By the way, this comes from 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: user head specific sixty seven sixty three, and if you 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 4: want usbmit your own stories, go to the Arslashokay Storytime subreddit. 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Riley, and op says. My wife, on 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: the other hand, had a more typical college experience quote unquote. 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: She went to the University of Miami. She went to 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: the University of Arizona. 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: Technically that one's not a issue, yeah, but they still 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: get after it. 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: She had a few relationships and her phase as she 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: was extremely attractive. 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: She even did stuff with two guys at the same job. 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: She was upfront about it when we started dating, and 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 4: it never bothered me, although I tried not to think 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: about it too much. 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: Over the years, she's become quite reserved when it comes 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: to intimacy. She says she had her wild side during college, 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: and now that she's done with that phase, she prefers 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: a more traditional approach to intimacy. She says she's tried 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: everything she wanted to and know what she enjoys and 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: what she doesn't in the boudoir, and she wants to 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: build intimacy on love, not wild lust. And I completely 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: respect that. I'm not trying to do something which doesn't 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: excite her in the bedroom. But lately I've changed. I'm 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: in the best shape of my life physically, mentally and emotionally. 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: Even my family and friends are kind of shocked with 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: how I look. My wife loves the new me and 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: says she finds me more attractive than ever. But to 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: be blunt, I don't care that my wife finds me 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: attractive because I know I look good now. Oh and 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: it's not like her finding me more attractive will change 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: anything in the bedroom department. 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: So I'm getting Spider Man when he finds Venom in 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: Spider Man three. 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hearing the music play in my head right now. 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: To your wire going on the street. Dude, he's looking 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: at the suit like, ooh yeah, feeling good. 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: I would say that your wife finding you way more 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 4: attractive could do something in the bedroom department. 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: Could spark some more you know, past things that she did, 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: wanting her to explore more. 60 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: I find it concerning, though, that you seem to be 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: like I'm maybe. 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: Cocky with it. 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 4: Was your wife partially responsible for you becoming this version 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: of yourself? 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: Like has this been your gym fuel recently? I think 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: he wants more action from others, That's what I'm getting. 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: Anyways, My hormones right now are all over the place, 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: and I can't help but feel like I missed my 69 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: chance to experience that same fun side of life. I 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: never had the exploration, the experimentation, or the freedom. Now 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: that I finally feel great about myself. That door seems closed. 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: I brought it up with my sister, who I'm close with, 73 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: and she was surprisingly blunt. She said, it's unfair that 74 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: my wife got to have those experiences and now expects 75 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: me to settle for less than what she once enjoyed. 76 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: That hit me harder than I expected. 77 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: But my sister also loves me so much and said 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: some crazy stuff like I deserve to have an experience 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: with at least one other woman in my life, or 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: else I'll keep presenting my wife. 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: Hmmm hm, remember first and only everything? First and only everything, dude. 82 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: After having our special guests from yesterday come through, sounds 83 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: like you may need to talk to a spicy therapist 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: or a dominatrix. I can maybe guide you through this. 85 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'll need guidance to get on the 86 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 2: other side. M M. I love my wife. I don't 87 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: want to hurt her. 88 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: I'm not thinking of cheating or anything like that, but 89 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: I do feel stuck between respecting her boundaries and acknowledging 90 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: my own desires that never had a chance to exist. 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 4: Am I wrong for feeling this way? Has anyone else 92 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: been in this situation? How did you cope and we 93 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: have some top comments. 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: I remember when I was working out a lot, my 95 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: hormones were up, I was feeling good all the time, 96 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: mental clarity, and I had a lot of energy. And 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: my other take on this is, if you're feeling this 98 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: way about your wife, you might need to, I don't know, 99 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: find a new passion or a new hobby or something 100 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: and instead of thinking, oh, my wife doesn't want to 101 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: do this, Oh my wife had these experiences I don't 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: want to do this and having that mint like start 103 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: falling in love with something else. So that's not corrupting 104 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: your mind because it sounds like you do have resentment 105 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: towards your wife. It's like fighting an addiction of someone's, 106 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm addicted to pornography super super hard. 107 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: You need to fall in love with, like, I don't know, painting, 108 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: and then you love to paint so much that you 109 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: don't even think about that aspect. I'm kind of getting 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: that vibe. I could be wrong, but that's my thoughts. 111 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: Like I'm so hot, I want to put myself out there. 112 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: It's like, well, you're married, yeah, I don't know. 113 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: You don't want to put yourself out there because you 114 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: don't want to cheat, but it's like, yeah, I don't know. 115 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: You want to feel the validation that you're hot and 116 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: saw it after yeah desired perhaps Top comments RK eighty 117 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: eight fourteen. RK says, I would be careful taking your 118 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: sister's advice about your relationship. The right thing is to 119 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 2: have an honest conversation with your wife and be direct. 120 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: The butt demon replies, this guy's sister hates his wife. 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: Conclusion Equal twenty two to ninety says the grass is 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: never greener on the other side, it's just different grass 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: from someone who is in the spicy hobbied world. Get really, 124 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: really clear on what it is you actually want. Every 125 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: fantasy sounds great in your imagination, but whatever it is 126 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 4: you want to explore, it will not be the same 127 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: when played out with your wife or any other woman, 128 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: if you break up or whatever. It's a tale as 129 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: old as time for a married person to have tons 130 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: of ideas of what leaving their domesticated problems will be like. 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: They think they'll be swimming in kitty or men will 132 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: be lining up for them, and reality is. 133 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: Very, very different. 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: They are often disappointed in wish they could have their 135 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: marriage and family back, it would be better to talk 136 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: to your wife, likely in therapy, that you feel like 137 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: you need to spice things up. You won't get anywhere 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: by just being mad at her. Mm and we have 139 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: an update. I agree with those comments that it's. 140 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: Clearly your sister has it out for your wife. 141 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: Maybe she feels like because she was your first everything, 142 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: you shouldn't have married her and needed no experience. 143 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: I definitely picked up on that vibe. 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: Agreed, but we got an day we do. 145 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: Hey everyone, I posted this last night and went to bed. 146 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: I woke up a couple hours ago, read through a 147 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: lot of replies thanks for all the honesty, and decided 148 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: to have a conversation with my wife this morning. 149 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: My wife and I are usually very honest with each other. 150 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: I was upfront with her about how I've been feeling, 151 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: specifically that I haven't been feeling very desired lately. She 152 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: was surprised at first and even a little shocked, because 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: we're usually pretty. 154 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: Lovey dovey with each other. 155 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: At first, she thought I was joking, but I told 156 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: her I was serious. She reassured me that she loves 157 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: me more than she can ever put into words, and 158 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: that she finds me incredibly attractive. I asked her why 159 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: I have to initiate intimacy most of the time, and 160 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: that seemed to strike a chord with her. She got 161 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: quiet and then told me she would make it effort 162 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: to initiate more often, and even kissed me then to 163 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: show she meant it. She wanted to do it there, 164 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: but I rejected her and told her I wasn't done. 165 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: I told her that initiating more was a start, but 166 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: what I really wanted was way, way, way more than that. 167 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: I opened up about how she's had the chance to 168 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: explore her fantasies and experiment in her past, while I 169 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: never had that chance. I told her about the attention 170 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: I've been getting from other women recently, like, for example, 171 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: three women at the library I go to regularly who've 172 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: been very upfront with me, and how I've turned all 173 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: of them down, but that it still made me think. 174 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: I told her, I don't feel desired at all at home, 175 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: and in fact, I feel more desired at the library 176 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 4: or park or even at work when I talk to women. 177 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: Then I told her. 178 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: Directly, I want to seriously spice up our bedroom life. 179 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about just small things. I told her. 180 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: I'm in the best shape of my life, and right 181 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: now I want to feel that kind of quote unquote wild. 182 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: Lust that I never got to experience. Not in a 183 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: reckless way. 184 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: I just want that passion and at least for the 185 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: next few years while I feel this good in my skin. 186 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: Okay, does he want another person a part of his 187 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: spicy life or does he just want to feel more? 188 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't know wild with his wife, I. 189 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: Don't know, man. I think that that comment about like 190 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: what do you actually want? 191 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 3: Because this threw me off whenever he mentioned the three librarians. 192 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: I have options. I could do something. 193 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, okay, so does she. I'm sure. 194 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, you're gonna look if you keep up with 195 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: your appearances, you're gonna look good for a while. Like 196 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: I know a guy that's like fifty one. It looks 197 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: great because he works out regularly. Like it's gonna keep 198 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: up with you if you keep up with it. 199 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: To my surprise, my wife was very receptive to what 200 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: I said. We sat down and talked more openly than 201 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: we have in a long time. I told her some 202 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: of the fantasies in my head that I'd like to explore, 203 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: and she actually listened and took me seriously. Okay. 204 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: See, Okay, conversation goes a long ways, Yes it does. 205 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: It's a wonder what communication can do in a relationship. 206 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: I think you probably could have communicated this. 207 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: A lot earlier. Oh absolutely, Let that be a lesson 208 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: communicate often and early. 209 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: This feels good, it feels nice, he feels good. 210 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: It is good. 211 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: Okay, but then something happened that I wasn't expected. She 212 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: broke down in tears. She asked if I still found 213 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 4: her attractive, and that hurt to hear, because of course 214 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: I do. I hugged her, comforted her, and told her 215 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: I still find her as beautiful as ever. Yes, she's 216 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 4: gone through some body changes since giving birth, but that 217 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: doesn't change how I feel. 218 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: About her at all. So yeah, that's probably my final update. 219 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 4: We still have a lot to talk about, but for 220 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: the first time in a while, I feel heard and hopeful. 221 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: Thank you all again for your input. 222 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: It really gave me the push I needed to be 223 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: honest with myself and with my wife. Comments number one, 224 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: I have a feeling this is definitely not over comment too. 225 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: He'll be back posting about how he was blindsided by 226 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: the divorce after things got spicier II, he convinced her 227 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 4: she needed to do things she didn't want to do 228 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 4: to keep him happy, and she finally left. 229 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: Remind me six months Oh my god. 230 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: Comment three. These are the type of posts that I 231 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: pray our rage bait, but I know all of them 232 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: can't be reply. I've watched a very similar scenario play 233 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: out with a couple. I know they were each other's 234 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: first everything. Eighteen years and two kids later, he started 235 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: getting itchy about everything he missed out on, and they 236 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: decided to open the marriage. There was at least a 237 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: year and a half of conversation leading to this point, 238 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 4: which is, by the way, not what OPI is discussing doing. 239 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: She now has a local boyfriend and out of town 240 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: guy and her husband. I'm not sure what his exact 241 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: situation is, but from my vantage point, they seem to 242 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: be living like roommates who occasionally f I think they 243 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 4: are staying married mostly out of habit. Coming forward, it's 244 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: pretty effed up to bring up how often other women 245 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 4: are hitting on him. The first time he bothers to 246 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: talk to his wife about this. It's not even a 247 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: subtle way to say that he's going to seek out 248 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: other women if his wife doesn't comply with his demands, 249 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: especially when they have two children presumably under five years old. 250 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: Reply says, this guy one hundred percent asked his wife 251 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 4: if she would have a manachantois with him in a 252 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 4: random woman who hit on him at the library. 253 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: Well, right, that story. 254 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 3: Wow, that's uh, that's wild. 255 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: The comments did not like. Ope. 256 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, earlier in this story, you're like, 257 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: I don't even care that my wife thinks I'm attractive. 258 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: I know I am, And then later on you like, 259 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: ask her if she still thinks you're attractive. It's like, 260 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: clearly you care, and you also attach her ability to 261 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: initiate the spicy time with you as a large indicator 262 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: on whether or not she does find you attractive. Just 263 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: go to your wife and say, hey, I want to 264 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 4: see what you learned at that sorority. 265 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: Oh God, show me what you learn Show me. 266 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: We got another story coming on up, we do. My 267 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: neighbor used my husband's photos to catfish. 268 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: That's not my husband, that's my neighbor. 269 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: My thirty five male husband and I thirty female have 270 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: been married for eight years but separated for the last 271 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: fourteen months. I need help and advice on how to 272 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: rekindle our relationship. We are currently not on speaking terms 273 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: and all of our arrangements go through our lawyers. However, 274 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: I will have an opportunity over Christmas to clear the 275 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: air and set things straight as you will be flying 276 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: in from Sydney to spend times with the kids. By 277 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: the way, this comes from Katrina ninety two and if 278 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: you want to make your own stories, go to the 279 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: r slash Okay story time subreddit. I'm Riley, I'm Dakota. 280 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: No p says, So what happened? I received a Facebook 281 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: message in September last year that my husband was talking 282 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: and exchanging unclosed photos with other women on Tender. We 283 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: spoke on the phone for a bit and the only 284 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: proof she had was screenshots of their conversations and his profile. 285 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: Long story short, I downloaded Tender and found his profile 286 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: with his location one kilometer away. Interesting, isn't he not 287 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: in the country? 288 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we know that it's the neighbor now yet 289 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: I mean we we do, but we didn't have a 290 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: title for this story. Yeah, that would be odd getting 291 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: than your girlfriends. 292 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 4: I mean if I saw this, I would immediately be like, 293 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: is my husband secretly lying to me about not living 294 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: in the same country as me anymore. 295 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: Like down the block, just like that's yeah, that's a 296 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: weird move. 297 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: I was convinced that he was cheating and we had 298 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: a terrible fallout that evening. My family came over to 299 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: calm the situation, but instead it escalated, and then my 300 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: brother wanted and grabbed a hold of my husband. The 301 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: neighbors called the police, and my husband was asked to 302 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: pack a few things and stay elsewhere for a while. 303 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: We separated shortly after. He has since moved to Sydney 304 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: to be closer with his dailing father, but caes her 305 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: kids for a weekend twice a month. Fast forward to 306 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: the beginning of November this year, my neighbors showed up 307 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: on my doorstep to tell me that her husband was 308 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: catfishing women on dating apps using my husband's photos. 309 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: Oh that's got to be a pretty sinking feeling when 310 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: you realize, like, oh, did I implode my whole marriage 311 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: for no reason. 312 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: He downloaded these photos from a MacBook that we lent 313 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: to him during the VID and some of these photos 314 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: were immature nature, including photos of meet The police are 315 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: currently dealing with this all of this has been relayed 316 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: to my husband through his lawyer, but his response has 317 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: been lukewarm. He said we could talk about it over Christmas. 318 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm so scared that we might be down too far 319 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: the rabbit hole and he will likely push for a divorce, 320 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: even though I know that we love each other deeply. 321 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: This situation has taken a massive toll on our mental health, finances, 322 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: and the well being of our three kids. What is 323 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: the best way to approach him in December and make 324 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: amends we have some comments. I'd write all this down. 325 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: I'd write down all your feelings down on paper. See 326 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: how you feel, give him a big welcome. But then 327 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: it also is two things. One you want to show 328 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: him how much you love him, but then also you 329 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: don't want to love baumbam And it's like, ah, it's crazy, 330 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: it's a weird place to be in. 331 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, try to go in without expectations. Okay, 332 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: the expectation or the desire of just like wanting it 333 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: to be fixed, will probably set you up for failure. 334 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: Because it'll make you desperate. 335 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 336 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: So instead of going in being like oriented in that way, 337 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: orient yourself in a way where you have control over everything, 338 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: being like I just want to tell them exactly what 339 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: I'm thinking and be like, this is exactly how I'm feeling, 340 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: and this is exactly what I would want to say, 341 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 4: and not. 342 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: Be like, all right, what is he going to say? 343 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: How do I plan it? Just be like, is what happened? 344 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like misunderstanding was hurt from a lie that 345 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: and you know I didn't know what was going on. 346 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: I know what to trust. Blah blah blah, whatever happened, 347 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: whatever you feel happened. Yeah, Like, I think we'd be 348 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: good for the kids. I think it'd be good for us. 349 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't think this has to happen. I'm honestly not 350 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: qualified to tell you how to get your husband back 351 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: right now. 352 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just giving advice and reading stories. We're giving 353 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: our best advice. We have not been through this before. 354 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: Yan really says, Oh, there's another thought. Perhaps reach out 355 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: to any and all of his old friends, make sure 356 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: they all know the truth. That's a good point. Eddie 357 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: forty two says Op. Try to salvage what you can, 358 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: but the situation was deeply damaging. I'm not blaming you 359 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: for leaving when you had what seemed like clear proof 360 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 3: of cheating, that's understandable, but the violent, traumatic way it 361 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: unfolded screwed you both over thanks to your neighbor and 362 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: your brother, the old one doing someone is never acceptable, 363 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: even if your husband had actually cheated, Imagine how we 364 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: feel as knowing it was completely unwarranted. Marriage means shared family, 365 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: and having your family physically do a harmful act to 366 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: him would make anyone hesitant to reconcile. If you want 367 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: to rebuild this, everyone needs to be accountable for the mistakes, 368 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: especially your brother. It's possible, but it will take some 369 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: serious work and time. Joe Holification says, apologize to your husband, 370 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: but don't expect forgiveness, And I think this is just 371 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: a term of not expecting things. Have low expectations, if 372 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: any none. Just apologize to what you can. 373 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: And just pray. Just get real clear about exactly how 374 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: you think and feel about it. 375 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: So we have an update two months later. I think 376 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: this is after Thanksgiving or like December. 377 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: Post Christmas. 378 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, post conversation. So unfortunately, after having sat down 379 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 3: and discussed things, it was decided that our marriage was 380 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: beyond repair and that we should go our separate ways. 381 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Opie. He is currently in therapy and has 382 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: requested that we have a clean break with no further 383 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: contact in the future. I intend to respect his wishes 384 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: and will continue to communicate through his lawyer on matters 385 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: that concern our kids. I have since cleared the air 386 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: with our families and friends, and still actively working towards 387 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: repairing his reputation. I would also like to clarify the 388 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: harmful act and my parents came over in the first place. 389 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: The night of the argument. I called my mother to 390 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: ask if I could drop off our kids and if 391 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 3: they could spend the evening there, but she was concerned 392 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: about my emotional state and ask that I stay put 393 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: and they would come to fetch the kids instead. They 394 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: arrived and my brother outed to stay outside while my 395 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: parents came inside to grab the kids and their backs. 396 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: At this point, my father asked to talk to my 397 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: ex and calmed the situation. My mom dragged me away 398 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 3: to get the kids and their bags ready. My brother 399 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: was very confused when we came outside and was triggered 400 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: by my mom saying that my ex might have cheated. 401 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: My brother reacted the moment my ex walked out and 402 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: grabbed my arm in a non violent way, leading to 403 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: the one O two ing and scuffle on the front lawn. 404 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: He was remorseful and apologized, even before we found out 405 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: my ex was not to blame. It is a series 406 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: and unfortunate events that has changed many lives and draw 407 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: up my family of love and happiness. I don't know, man, 408 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: your brother doing that, I don't know. I mean, you 409 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: could get caught up in the moment sometimes, but yikes, yikes, iikeyikes. 410 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: It would suck not hearing that. But if I love someone, 411 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: I'd probably try to hear them out or something. It 412 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: just doesn't feel like you try to hear your husband out, 413 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: which is understandable too. 414 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure there are more problems 415 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: than just this, you think, so there had to have been. 416 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's had to have been a final straw situation 417 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 4: or just a culmination of like, no, I don't want this, 418 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 4: because it's like you see a Tinder profile with me 419 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 4: on it a kilometer away and you think that you 420 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: just immediately are like, and that is definitive proof. I 421 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: gotta assume when he was converted about it, he's like, 422 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 4: what are you talking about? 423 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: It's tough all the way around. I'm just imagining you 424 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: getting catfished, and it's a combination of your old acting 425 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: photos and you with really good lighting, but it is 426 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: clearly looks like you were edited out in the studio. 427 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: Yeah no, I would just be like I would quite 428 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 4: literally rather be dead than use dating apps. 429 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: I've now had to focus on my kids, my depression, 430 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: and coming to terms with the divorce. I will never forget, 431 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: but hopefully the pain will not be his intense any 432 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: other thoughts. 433 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: My dude, the best you can do is just move 434 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: forward and try to be the good parent for your kids. 435 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed. Commeder says you were responsible for all this. 436 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: Poor guy. Don't knock like you are the victim here. 437 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: Don't say a word to him, and watch as he 438 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: finds a wife more deserving and a family more loving. 439 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 3: He deserves that much. Oh my gosh, I don't know 440 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: about that one, but dude, that's crazy. I'm not gonna 441 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 3: read those comments. You guys are just gonna both have 442 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 3: to move on, and that's that's how this one turned out. Sucks. 443 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you'll pee. 444 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to jump to conclusions 445 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: in that situation, I'm sure. 446 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 3: And the real person to blame here is the neighbor. 447 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: Really, it's all online dating's fault. 448 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was he getting out of this? And can 449 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: we sue him for emotional damage? 450 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: Can we the police are involved in this? I truly 451 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: can't imagine the state you have to be in to 452 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: have a fake dating profile. 453 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: Using other people's pictures and information. Yeah, what level of 454 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: just absolutely lost do you have to be to have 455 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: to pretend to be someone else talking to people who 456 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 4: were The whole plan is let's meet up. 457 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: They're going to meet you and find out you're not 458 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: that person. 459 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 3: He probably did it to get money out of them, 460 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: to extort them, you know, stuff like that. It is 461 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: crazy the wheld we live in. But you can make 462 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 3: a change by being a good person. And we had 463 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: another story coming up. 464 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yay, I'm getting tired of my husband. 465 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 3: Sounds like you need a break, don't we? 466 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: All. 467 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: This also comes direct from our subreddit, Oh Boy, Oh Boy. 468 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 4: I twenty three female, have been married to my husband, 469 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: twenty four male for five years and we've been together 470 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 4: for six in total. We met young and quickly started 471 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 4: building a life together. But lately I've been feeling like 472 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: I'm drowning in this relationship, and I don't know if 473 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm being unreasonable or finally waking up. 474 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 3: Uh oh. 475 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from user useful Remove sixty 476 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: seven eighty three, and if you want to submit your 477 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 4: own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. 478 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 4: I'm Dakota, I'm Riley, and Op says to give you 479 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: some context, both my husband and I work full time 480 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 4: eight am to six pm Monday through Friday, and Saturdays 481 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: from eight am to noon. I also attend university classes 482 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: every night from seven pm to ten thirty pm. It's 483 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: an exhausting routine, but I've been pushing through. We live 484 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: with my mother in law, his mom, fifty four female. 485 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: Just the three of us. 486 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: The house is hers. My relationship with her is okay 487 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 4: on the surface, but after five years of living under 488 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 4: her roof, I feel emotionally worn out. Since it's her house, 489 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: everything has to be done her way. She constantly criticizes 490 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: the way I clean, so I eventually stopped doing it 491 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: all together. She made it clear she'd rather do it herself. However, 492 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: my husband and I are the ones paying for it. 493 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 4: Everything water, electricity, internet, groceries, all out of our pocket. 494 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: She doesn't work, but she owns a property in another 495 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 4: city and receives monthly rental income. Even so, every time 496 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: my husband asks her to contribute to anything, she says 497 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: she doesn't have money. On top of all that, I'm 498 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: the one who cooks all the meals, washes all the dishes, 499 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: and does all the laundry for myself and my husband. 500 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 4: It feels like I'm doing everything physically, emotionally and financially 501 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: while getting very little support in return. 502 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: Oh oh pee, I'm so sorry. 503 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: I mean sounds like a lot. 504 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 3: It is crazy over the years how much we've expected 505 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: our spouses to do. Because it used to be, you know, 506 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 3: in a traditional sense, it was the husband would go 507 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: to work and the wife would stay home and prepare 508 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: the house and take care of the house. Now it's 509 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: changed to, you know, one partner maybe go into work 510 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: full time and then also on top of that happy 511 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: to take care of the house and the kids. Well, 512 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 3: the other guy only has to work or you have 513 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: to split the load up. And then on that part 514 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: even more, it's like, oh, I want to start a business, 515 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: I want to do it with my wife. Oh I 516 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: need a friend, I need to like you know, I 517 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 3: need to like blow off some steam. I'm gonna get 518 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: my wife to do that. It's just we have a 519 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: lot of expectations over smouse. 520 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 4: We used to live in a society where you could 521 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: thrive off of single income. 522 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: We just don't live in that place anymore. 523 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: And you know, regardless of traditional I think socially, I 524 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: think attitudes have changed. It does make sense. It makes 525 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: sense to have in a relationship with two people. One 526 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: person can make all of the money and one person 527 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: takes care of the house. Yeah, don't even gender it 528 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 4: like that just makes sense. You literally can't do that 529 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 4: in the vast majority of cases because in order to survive, 530 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 4: y'all both need to have an income. 531 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: I would love to be a YouTube dad or my 532 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: boss girl. 533 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 534 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 3: Wife just goes out takes care of it, and I'm 535 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: just at home podcasting with my boys, doing whatever, taking 536 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: care of the kid. They're like a livestream with the kid. 537 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 3: I don't know. 538 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: I don't counts as being a house husband. 539 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: I'm podcasting with the boys right now. 540 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, all your chores not getting done, don't get done? 541 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: Nuh uh yeah, who by who but my kid? 542 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: They can learn to do it. I can try them. 543 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 3: They can't seem a fun dad. It's time to play laundry. 544 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: I'd love playing laundry. 545 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 4: On a real level, though I would immediately just express 546 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: these feelings to your husband in a non confrontational, non 547 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 4: accusatory way, just in a This is how I feel. 548 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm drowning in everything. 549 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 550 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: I also suffer from anxiety and depression, though I'm currently 551 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 4: in therapy and trying hard to manage it. But lately 552 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 4: I've noticed that I don't even want to go home anymore. 553 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: I feel suffocated in that house. On weekends, I often 554 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: choose to stay at my mom's, dads or sister's place, 555 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 4: anywhere but home. That's how unbearable things have become. Now 556 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 4: About my husband, I love him, but sometimes I feel 557 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: completely invisible to him. He does things that genuinely hurt me, 558 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: and I don't even think he realizes the damage. For example, 559 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 4: a while ago, he admitted that he had been having 560 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 4: spicy related conversations with a female friend on a separate 561 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: social media account. 562 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: Brother. Oh my gosh, man, this guy stinks. 563 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: I got nothing to say to that. 564 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 4: He told her he wanted to have a three way 565 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: with me and her, and he only told me this 566 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 4: after deleting the entire conversation. 567 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: Oh all right, that's a great way to establish trust. No, no, 568 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: I was talking to this other girl, but it was 569 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: just about having a three way, and I deleted the 570 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 2: whole conversation so your feelings can't get hurt from reading it. 571 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: He said he just wanted to test the waters to 572 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: see if I'd be open to the idea. 573 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: That's insane, because that's not something you start talking to 574 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: a stranger about before you talk to your wife about. 575 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: I feel like you want that to happen. It's multiple 576 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: conversations with your partner and then a game plan. But 577 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: it seems like you skipped a lot of steps there. 578 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: Many steps were skipped. 579 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: I felt shocked and disrespected, not because of the suggestion 580 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: of a three way, but specifically because he had private, 581 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: spicy discussions involving me without my knowledge or consent. I've 582 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: tried to move on from that, but last week something 583 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: happened that really broke me. On Thursday, my dad suddenly 584 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: became very sick. He had high blood pressure, was vomiting 585 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: and sweating cold, potential signs of a heart attack or stroke. 586 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: He was rushed to the hospital and I was at 587 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 4: work when I got the news. I started crying and 588 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: panicking and messaged my husband right away, hoping for support. 589 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: His response was, he sent me two silly stickers like 590 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: goofy emojis or gifts. 591 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: That's it. 592 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah. 593 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: You divorced this man, dude, I don't even care. 594 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: Like if my dad has a stroke, my dad goes 595 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: to the hospital and you send me a gift, I go, oh, okay, 596 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: never talking to you again. 597 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, hot take. I feel like men in this world 598 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: we need to I don't know, we need a class 599 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: on how to be a man, how to be a 600 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: supportive osmon, I'm losing out. 601 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: That's honestly some of the craziest stuff I've read that 602 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 4: you say that and then mid panic a deck he 603 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 4: sends you like the crying smiley face like emoji. 604 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: Or the crazy eyes like with the tongue out. 605 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like what. I was shocked. I told him 606 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: that if that's how he was going to respond, I 607 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: didn't want to talk to him anymore. 608 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: He simply replied that he didn't do anything wrong. No apology, 609 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: no follow up. He never checked in on me or 610 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: asked how my dad was doing. Since then, I haven't 611 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: spoken to him. I feel completely alone. He hasn't reached 612 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 4: out or tried to fix things, And I keep asking 613 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: myself why am I always the one making the effort? 614 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: Why am I carrying this entire relationship on my back. 615 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: I'm seriously considering asking for a break. I just want 616 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 4: some time to breathe and figure out if this is 617 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 4: the life I want? Do you want a life with 618 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: a guy who's definitely. 619 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: Cheating on you right now? By the way, Do you 620 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: want a guy who can be so emotionally absent from 621 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: your life because he's probably still talking to other women 622 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: that he could do this to you and say he 623 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: finds nothing wrong with it? 624 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: Opie, you know the answer. It's a tough solution. You 625 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: know what you gotta do here. 626 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: You gotta leave this guy. 627 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: Yep, just like that, just Thano snap. 628 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: Part of me feels guilty, like maybe I'm overreacting or 629 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: giving up too soon. So Reddit, am I wrong for 630 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: wanting a break? Am I just running away? Or is 631 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: this a sign I've already been carrying too much for 632 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 4: too long? There is an edit here About two months ago, 633 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: I had a serious conversation with my husband about everything, 634 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 4: how unhappy I was living in his mother's house, how 635 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: we have no privacy, and how the constant stress was 636 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: damaging our relationship. I told him I felt like we 637 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: were supporting someone who wasn't contributing and that it was 638 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: making us turn against each other. Unfortunately, nothing changed after 639 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: that talk. Things have just gotten worse since then. Goodness, 640 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 4: there are some comments that I'm sure will be very 641 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 4: supportive of you. 642 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, cuse you need to leave this guy. 643 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a tough one, tough season. You know 644 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: what you gotta do. 645 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: Go. 646 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 4: Comments number one, take a break and reevaluate the relationship. 647 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: If you feel unloved and used, why hang on to it. 648 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 4: Life is too short to be miserable. 649 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: Comment two. 650 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 4: Well, the having spicy conversations with other women would be 651 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: enough to divorce in my opinion, So with all the 652 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 4: other mother in law drama, I would say divorce. 653 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: Comment three. As someone who. 654 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 4: Started seeing their partner when we were both in high school, 655 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: there definitely gets to be itchy feet moments aka running. 656 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: This doesn't sound like it's about the time or age 657 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: you got together. This has to do with minimizing valid 658 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: concerns instead of talking them out for how to address 659 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 4: the coworker situation is straight up wrong. Would trying a 660 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 4: weekend at a hotel together? Help with reconnection? Think you 661 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 4: should look for another place to live, whether it's together 662 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 4: or not. Hope, He says. We traveled in December of 663 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five to take a vacation. We were away 664 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: for fifteen days. Everything went really well, but when we 665 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: got back, it felt like it didn't help much. You know, 666 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if it's the atmosphere at home that's 667 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: so heavy that it's affecting us without us. 668 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: Even realizing it. And there's an update. I feel like 669 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: your partner is still talking to other women. 670 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's worse. But another worse thing is not supporting 671 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: you at all. 672 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 4: And I feel like the two halves of that is 673 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: that because he's absent in your relationship, it would make 674 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: sense that he's finding that somewhere else. 675 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, complete sense. Yeah. 676 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: Update, Hi again, I'm back with an update, But first 677 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: I want to answer some questions that came up. 678 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: Can you move in with your parents? 679 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: Unfortunately no, My mother is emotionally unstable, and I think 680 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: living together would only make things worse. She lives with 681 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: my stepfather in a one bedroom house, and on top 682 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 4: of that, she and my husband don't get along. My 683 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 4: dad lives with his wife and two young children, ziblings 684 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: of mine, age fifteen and thirteen, in a two bedroom home, 685 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: one room for them, the other for the kids. 686 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: So there is no space for us there for us. 687 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: Start thinking about you? Can you stay? 688 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: What about the kids? 689 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: Oh? I just thought she was talking about me and husband. 690 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, don't just abandon the kids. 691 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: Dakota says, abandoning the children. 692 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: Abandon you. I abandoned my boy. 693 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, just I don't know. The wolves take care of it. 694 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: I've done it before. 695 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: Can you stay in college dorms? No, I'm not in 696 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: the US, and where I live there are no college dorms, 697 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: especially not for my small private university. 698 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 4: Why did you get married so young? Well, my life 699 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: has always been a bit chaotic. At eighteen, I moved 700 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: out to live with my sister, and soon after my 701 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 4: husband and I got married. Coming from a toxic, unstable 702 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 4: family background, I think I saw marriage as a way 703 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 4: to create stability, but now I see it also came 704 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 4: with emotional baggage. I wasn't ready for I'm by but 705 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: I've always been clear that I'm monogamous. Still, he once 706 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: had spicy conversations with another woman and even suggested a 707 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: threesome without ever talking to me first. It feels like 708 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: he used my spicy proclivity as a justification for his fantasies. 709 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: But not hours nikes. He has issue with cornography and 710 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: says he's trying to get better. 711 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: How's your dad doing? Thankfully, he's doing better now. He's 712 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 4: on medication and being monitored. But honestly, if he had 713 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: gotten into the hospital any later, he might not have 714 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: made it. And now here's the update. Last night, I 715 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 4: sat down and talked to my husband. I skipped class 716 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 4: because this conversation could not wait. We talked for several hours. 717 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: I was honest and reinforced how emotionally exhausted I feel. 718 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 3: Also take back the kid thing. I don't think they 719 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: have kids. I thought they did. I forgot they were 720 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 3: this young. Apologies everyone, apologies. It's hard to keep up 721 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 3: with these stories after a while. Kids, no kids, some kids, 722 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 3: one kid kid on the way. So yeah, I don't 723 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: know what she meant by us. She meant both of them. Wow, 724 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: moving out of the house. Ah, dang. 725 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: If your partner. 726 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 4: Everyone was like, yeah, and talking to this other person, 727 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: but I was only asking them if they wanted to 728 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 4: do something with the two of us, and I deleted 729 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: all of the messages. You go, wow, Richard Nixon, that's 730 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 4: pretty convenient. 731 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: Huh. I guess I'll just believe you. 732 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 4: No, you go, hey, why don't you go take that 733 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 4: person and find another third because it's not gonna be me. 734 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm done, yep, and I'm now an Alaskan fisherman. 735 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 4: You know how easy it is to not cheat on 736 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 4: your partner. It is so easy to not cheat on 737 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: your partner. 738 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: You know how easy it is to break up with 739 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: someone you don't find interesting anymore and then continue another relationship. 740 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: It's pretty easy too. 741 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 4: The sad thing is that that's harder than not cheating. 742 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 4: Some people, they're like, ooh, I can't. 743 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 2: So I'll just be completely wrong. 744 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 4: Instead of letting someone down, I'll just silently do it 745 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 4: behind their backs until they find out, and I'll make 746 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 4: everything worse. So the update Sam here, we're gonna get 747 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 4: back to the stories, but here's three minutes bads from 748 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 4: our sponsors how his actions have been hurting me and 749 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 4: made it clear that it is no longer possible for 750 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 4: us to keep living with his mother. He listened, we cried, 751 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 4: and it seems that finally he understood the seriousness of 752 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 4: the situation. He realized that if he doesn't change now, 753 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 4: I will change my life, with or without him. We've 754 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: agreed to urgently look for a place of our own. 755 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 4: The rent where we live is extremely high, we're close 756 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 4: to international borders, and buying a home isn't an option 757 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 4: right now. I gave us a two or three month 758 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 4: deadline to find something. That's the time I'm giving myself 759 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 4: till then. I'll stay at my sister's place. It's small, 760 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 4: and I'll be sleeping on the floor, but honestly, I'd 761 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 4: rather do that than stay in a house where I 762 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 4: feel like I can't breathe. Yes, I asked for a break, 763 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 4: a short one, just enough to clear my head and 764 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 4: remind myself that I deserve peace. He was surprised and 765 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 4: even desperate, probably because this time I wasn't just threatening. 766 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 4: I was leaving, even if temporarily. There's a little bit 767 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 4: more story left. 768 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: Good move on you, awesome sister and Opie. I hope 769 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: you can find a solution here. I think if you 770 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 3: hear the crashing of waves on a boat, and you 771 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: see yourself in your dreams kind of in a cold 772 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 3: but yet homie. Boat should probably look into Alaskan fishing. 773 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 3: I think you might like that. Keep your ears and 774 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: dreams open to that. 775 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, an Alaskan crab fisherman. 776 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, or just a fisherman in general, because I mean, 777 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 3: they make money. And then you just do that for 778 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: like six months, go back to school. What's six months? 779 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 2: What's six months on an Alaskan crab boat? 780 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: Come on. 781 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: So that's where we're at. 782 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 4: I don't know how this story ends, but I know 783 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 4: it can't go on the way it was. I'm going 784 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 4: to use this time to take care of myself. Self 785 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: care isn't just about skincare. It's always about caring for 786 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 4: your mind. And so tomorrow I have an appointment with 787 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 4: my therapist and I plan to open up to her. 788 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 2: About all of this. 789 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 4: I hope to find the peace I need. I'm young, 790 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 4: but I've already been through a lot and I don't 791 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: want to carry any more unnecessary he burdens in my life. 792 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 4: And that is the end of that story. And you know, 793 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 4: good luck moving forward. You guys can work through it. 794 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 4: You guys can work through it. 795 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be leaving, Yeah, but I'm not you. 796 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 4: I think having flirtatious, spicy conversations with someone over the 797 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 4: phone and then deleting all of them and then telling 798 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 4: you what they are. 799 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: Is too suspicious for me to look past. 800 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 4: I think him reacting the way he did when your 801 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 4: father was in the hospital too much for me to 802 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 4: look past. There's a guy sometimes I watch him for 803 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 4: like philosophical stuff, a really good one he had. Sometimes 804 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 4: there are things that are done or said that are 805 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 4: so venomous it cannot be undone. It's basically this is 806 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 4: a video about like not talking when you're angry. So 807 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 4: he shakes up two sodas and he opens one right 808 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 4: away and it like explodes, and then he talks about it, 809 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 4: and then he opens up the other one and it 810 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 4: doesn't explode. It's basically a warning like don't talk when 811 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: you're angry. But it's like, don't talk when you're angry 812 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 4: because you can't take certain things back. So this isn't 813 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 4: really in the context of not talking when you're angry. 814 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 4: But I think the way that he did those things, 815 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: he cannot take those back, Like I was you. 816 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: It's already out of the bottle. You can't put it 817 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: back in the bottle, yep. 818 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: And you got to remember that in this scenario too, 819 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 3: there are two red code Mountain dews and you're on 820 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 3: a white ruck, so you can't clean that up. 821 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 2: Got cod red mount de Cora. God love me some 822 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: cold group cold cod red down Dow. 823 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 3: But guys, we got one more story before we close 824 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: this out. I'm gonna find that for us real quick. 825 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 3: My husband's parents are overstepping our boundaries and it's straining 826 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 3: our relationship. 827 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: Telling him to step off. 828 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 3: Backstory, My husband and I have been married for almost 829 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 3: three years now. His parents have always been very emotional 830 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: and needy. When we were first married, we lived three 831 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 3: hours away from them, his first time living away from home, 832 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 3: and we saw them at least every month. By the way, 833 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 3: this comes from throwaway the in laws and if you 834 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,479 Speaker 3: want to speak old stories, go to the r slash 835 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: Okay story time subbur I'm Riley, I'm Dakota, and Obi says. 836 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 3: In between seeing them, they would skype with us a 837 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 3: few times a week, an average of an hour conversation 838 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 3: each time, as well as call, text, and email. 839 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: It seems like a lot. 840 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 3: I finally told my husband that this was too much 841 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 3: for me. He agreed, and we cut it back a little. Yeah, 842 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 3: we cut it back to forty five minutes each call. Yeah, exactly, No, no, no, 843 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 3: fifty incrementally. Now, since that time, there have been little 844 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 3: things here and there where they have clearly gone too 845 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 3: far in their involvement. Some things include opening our mouth, 846 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 3: going through our check book they said they thought it 847 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 3: was theirs, and calling our lawyer regarding a situation they 848 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: thought wasn't being handled. Well, these are all beside the point, 849 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: but being shared so you can see they have some 850 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 3: problems with respecting our boundaries. Real quick. You know what 851 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 3: I want to see here? I would to see my 852 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: husband do laundry. I want to see him cook a meal. 853 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 3: I want to see him change his oil? 854 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: Can he do that? 855 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: Can you change your oil? Oh? He can't. 856 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 3: Oh it's because his parents did everything for him. 857 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 2: Might just be and that means you're now. 858 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 3: Gonna have to be the caretaker. Oh you're the new mommy. 859 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 3: Guys who's buying groceries and cooking for their child. 860 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 2: Mama changed the oil, Mama. 861 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 3: No you didn't. There's oil everywhere how is there oil 862 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 3: in the house, babe? There's oil everywhere. We're like to 863 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 3: oh so besides that, thanks. We do it all right 864 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: until we moved eighteen hours away in January, so it's 865 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: in school. They became increasingly clinging. They came to visit 866 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 3: for a week less than a month after we moved, 867 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 3: and are constantly sending us emails and text about how 868 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 3: sad they are. We scott often and try to humor 869 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: them with pep talks, but it's never enough. Just last 870 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 3: week I received a text from my father in law 871 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: that his pariontal soul needs to be watered. Who's sprinkling 872 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 3: the rain drops on that? 873 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: I guess the children. The children must feed your parental soul. 874 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: My husband receives two weeks off per six month period. 875 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 3: He works forty hours a week on top of having 876 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 3: fifteen credit hours, so I really don't see him all 877 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 3: that much. Those vacations are very important to us. He 878 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 3: has a week off in August and in November. When 879 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 3: his parents heard about the November week off, they booked 880 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 3: a flight to come and stay with us for ten 881 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 3: days uninvited. They also invited his siblings down in August. 882 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: We are going camping with my family because I understand 883 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,479 Speaker 3: that they miss their son. I invited my in laws 884 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: as well. Next thing I know, they're inviting their relatives 885 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 3: to join and trying to convince my husband just to 886 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: camp for a few days and then leave early and 887 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: spend the rest of his time in a different nearby 888 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 3: city with them. Who's your keeper, husband, Mommy and daddy. 889 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's one thing to be like we should 890 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 4: get the family together. It's another thing to be like, hey, 891 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 4: we're hijacking. 892 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: Your week off. 893 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 3: Yep, you're gonna do this in this. 894 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you have plans to spend time with 895 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 4: your wife. Forget your wife, Come spend time with your family. 896 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 3: It's crazy you has siblings too. This seems like something 897 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 3: they do with the only child, but he has other siblings. 898 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's just like come up for a weekend, dude, 899 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 2: It's not a come on. 900 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 3: When I heard about this, I got upset that they 901 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 3: would overstep their invitation and try to steal them away 902 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 3: from time with me and my family. So I put 903 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 3: the kebash on it and uninvited them. Needless to say, 904 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 3: they were not too happy today. Done done. I need 905 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 3: to watch Law Order It was last time you've seen 906 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 3: a long order episode. 907 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've been pretty unlawful and unruly. 908 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 3: This all leads up to today. My husband received an 909 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 3: email sent only to him saying that they couldn't wait 910 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 3: until November. They missed him so much, so in two 911 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 3: weeks they'll be driving their old beater car. They don't 912 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 3: have the money to both fly eighteen hours to our place. 913 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 3: His MoMA will be staying four days and leaving, but 914 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 3: his dad will be staying ten days, perhaps more if 915 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 3: he can get more time off work. My husband showed 916 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 3: me the email and said, you can't say no. They're 917 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 3: coming down and we will be treating you and your 918 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: dog's name. I flipped out. I told my husband at 919 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: this point, it's not about them visiting or even staying 920 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 3: in our small, two bedroom apartment. Is about the lack 921 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 3: of respect that they show for boundaries. My husband is 922 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 3: one hundre percent apathetic to it all. He says that 923 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 3: my life is too short to make ripples and that 924 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 3: we should just enjoy their company. Am I overreacting? We 925 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 3: have an update. 926 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get 927 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute 928 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: break from ask for more sponsors. 929 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 2: I feel like your husband wants to spend time with 930 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: his family. Yeah, and your problem lies with like, well, 931 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 2: shouldn't I be able to spend all of that week 932 00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 2: off with my husband? 933 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 934 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 4: Because I feel like I don't seem enough. But you 935 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 4: got to figure out how to see each other more. 936 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 2: When you don't have those weeks off. 937 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you're both are very busy, and to 938 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 3: preserve this relationship, something has to give, like either less school, 939 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 3: less job, or you know, sacrifice this time that you 940 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 3: have with your husband, knowing that later in the road 941 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 3: you'll have more time with them, hoping, because I feel 942 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 3: like once you get rolling in a busy schedule in 943 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: a relationship, that's the vibe. That's how it's always going 944 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 3: to be. 945 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 4: He's made it clear that his philosophy is life is 946 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 4: too short to create. 947 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: This tension with my family over them wanting to see me. 948 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. So summary of previous posts. Last week, my husband 949 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 3: received an email from his dad. The email that my 950 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 3: father in law and mother in law had decided that 951 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 3: they were going to come and visit us for ten 952 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 3: days because they could have waited any longer to see 953 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 3: their son. A direct quote from the email, after stating 954 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 3: that they were visiting, he's no approvals needed, no denials accepted. 955 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 3: I was really gay. Now that bothers me. 956 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that kind of stuff sends me up the wall. 957 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 3: You are just kids. You don't know better. Where we 958 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 3: got it from here? 959 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 4: Because it's like that kind of attitude makes me go, 960 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 4: oh yeah, watch this. 961 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they go, where are you? We're in town. 962 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 2: I go, that's crazy, I'm not. 963 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 964 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 2: Oops. 965 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 3: I was really angry about the situation. I felt like 966 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 3: they were overstepping their boundaries and my husband seem apathetic. 967 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 3: I gave my husband a couple of days to think 968 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 3: about what he wanted to do. He gave myself a 969 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 3: couple of days to cool down, and then I talked 970 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 3: to him again. He actually was pretty receptive and we 971 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 3: had a good conversation. We both agreed that he would 972 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 3: talk to his parents and discuss appropriate boundaries. We wouldn't 973 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 3: ask them to stay in a hotel because they couldn't 974 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 3: afford it, but would tell them that they need to 975 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 3: respect our need for privacy and alone time. Should we 976 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 3: ask that's happening now? He skyed with his parents on 977 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 3: Saturday alone because I was out of town. He said 978 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 3: that it went well and they like they understood. After 979 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 3: he spoke with them, I sent them both a follow 980 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 3: up text that Saturday night, letting them know that during 981 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 3: the ten days they will be visiting us. One, we 982 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,720 Speaker 3: will need to be away for one full day as 983 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 3: we had already made plans to celebrate our wedding anniversary. 984 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 3: Two a friend of mine will likely be dropping in 985 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 3: from out of town and might be with us for 986 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: a day or two. Three I asked them to leave 987 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 3: their handguns behind. This is a personal preference of mind. 988 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 3: Six months ago, they both bought handguns for the first 989 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 3: time and have decided they only feel safe when sleeping 990 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 3: next to their pupius. I do not feel comfortable with 991 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 3: that in my house, so I asked that they leave 992 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 3: the pupis behind. That's that's wild to me. Sorry, as 993 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 3: someone that has grown up around firearms and believes strongly 994 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 3: in the Second Amendment. Having to sleep next to them 995 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 3: all the time. Where do you live? 996 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: It feels more like mental illness than anything. I don't know, 997 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 2: believing that that's gonna keep you safer just because they're 998 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: like right next to you and you just sleep. 999 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, no, no, I some people have opinions 1000 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 3: about this, but I'm like, I don't know. I understand 1001 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 3: wanting to feel safe and having access to it in 1002 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 3: case you need to do defense, but traveling with it 1003 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 3: and putting other people at harm, that's. 1004 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, man. 1005 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 4: I think the only way that that makes any sense 1006 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 4: you have like one surgically implanted into your skull so 1007 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 4: that when you wake up and there's an intruder right above, 1008 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 4: you can go boom. 1009 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 2: But that doesn't work, that doesn't happen. You can't do 1010 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 2: that yet. 1011 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 3: I'm working on something. Honestly, wasn't trying to be an antagonistic. 1012 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 3: I just wanted to be very clear with them and 1013 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 3: up front so there were no surprises when they arrived. 1014 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 3: I didn't want them to make conflicting plans and ended 1015 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 3: up disappointed. I sent a text because I was out 1016 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 3: of the country and didn't have access to Wi Fi 1017 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 3: and couldn't call. I didn't receive any response from them 1018 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 3: Saturday or Sunday, unusual because they were always quick at answering. 1019 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 3: Then yesterday, Monday, my husband texts me tell me that 1020 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 3: he got a text from them, saying that they loved 1021 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 3: him and missed him, but that they were not going 1022 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 3: to visit us anymore. No explanation, just that they weren't 1023 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 3: no longer coming, despite the fact that they boot their 1024 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 3: vacation time and bought a flight ticket for my mother 1025 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 3: in law's return home. He then asked why, and they 1026 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 3: said that they would talk to both him and me 1027 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 3: over skype. Well, my husband has a super busy week 1028 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 3: and doesn't have the time to have another lengthy discussion, 1029 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 3: and they had planned on driving down here June thirtieth, 1030 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 3: so I told him I would want to talk with 1031 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 3: him to try and smooth things over before then, because 1032 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it would be nice 1033 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 3: for him to see them, and I don't want him 1034 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: to miss out on family time because of petty drama 1035 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 3: that I may or may have not cost. So I 1036 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 3: texted them immediately Monday and told them that I wasn't 1037 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 3: sure what was going on, but that I would love 1038 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 3: to talk with them and listen to what they had 1039 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 3: to say. I told them that i'd be back in 1040 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 3: the States today Tuesday, and asked them to let me 1041 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 3: know a couple of times that might work to skype. 1042 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 3: No answer instead, my father in law text is my 1043 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 3: husband as a response to my text that they will 1044 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 3: not answer any texts and will only communicate via skype. 1045 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 3: So I played dumb and sent them another text today 1046 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 3: saying I didn't hear back from either of you, so 1047 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 3: I think my last text probably didn't go through. Husband 1048 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 3: is busy all week you guys have time to skype 1049 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 3: with me today. A few hours later, I get a 1050 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 3: text from mother in law saying they will skype when 1051 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 3: my husband is able. I responded saying, I just asked, 1052 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 3: because between both of our schedules, we won't be able 1053 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 3: to skype with you until this weekend, and if you 1054 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 3: cancel your plans because of something I said, I want 1055 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 3: you to know that I'm available to talk before them 1056 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 3: no answer. I know they have checked their phones because 1057 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 3: they sent my husband a text after that saying they 1058 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 3: were thinking of him. It's frustrating because this is still 1059 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 3: boils to the same issue, a huge lack of appropriate communication. 1060 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 3: The one positive note is that at least my husband 1061 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 3: and I are on the same page. Finally. He's really 1062 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 3: embarrassed by how his parents are acting and has said 1063 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: that unless they have some legitimate reason, their car broke down. 1064 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 3: He has nothing to say to them. I don't think 1065 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 3: they like Opie. 1066 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 4: I don't think so either, And I wouldn't be beaten 1067 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 4: around the bush with like, oh my test didn't go through. 1068 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 4: I'd be like, hey, we're all adults here. I'm the 1069 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 4: other half of the partnership your son and I share. 1070 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 4: If you got something to say about us, you can 1071 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 4: say it to me. 1072 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 3: Right here to my face. Sorry, fikes so, and now 1073 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 3: looks like they are no longer coming. I do feel 1074 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 3: guilty for causing tension between my husband and his parents. 1075 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 3: Part of me wishes I just kept my mouth shut 1076 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 3: and just gone with it, and then there would not 1077 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,959 Speaker 3: have been any drama to deal with. Ridiculous, unnecessary drama 1078 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 3: at that. 1079 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's all coming from them. They are moving 1080 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 4: about this like they are in middle school. Yeah, literally, 1081 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 4: like they're thirteen years old. 1082 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 3: Take you out of this, what's left? That's the issue. 1083 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 3: While the other part feels like if I didn't say anything, 1084 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 3: they would have continued to overstep their boundaries and I 1085 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 3: would have gone crazy. So as of now, they are 1086 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 3: not visiting, and my husband has no desire to talk 1087 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 3: with them, and I guess I'll stop asking if they 1088 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 3: want to talk with me. Yeah, I don't think they 1089 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 3: like you, but they're not going to tell you that, 1090 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 3: and that's the end of that story. 1091 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 2: I guess they definitely won't tell you that. 1092 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 3: They're only going to talk to your husband and hopefully 1093 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 3: you guys can have time for yourselves. 1094 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 4: When I was siding with them, I didn't imagine they 1095 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,399 Speaker 4: were the most exhausting, annoying yeah people of all time? 1096 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 3: What's he got a little bit more context there. 1097 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, anytime anyone's just like yeah, and it's 1098 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 2: not up to you, and no requests accepted, no denials 1099 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 2: listened to. It's like, yeah, oh oh okay, you stepped 1100 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 2: up and you put a stop to it. 1101 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 3: Congrats Obie. And that's the end of that episode. So 1102 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 3: if you love us, make sure to subscribe. We love 1103 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 3: you and see you tomorrow.