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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, July thirty first, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 2: and alongside me, as always, castmellis.

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Speaker 1: Cold opened again, got us giggling.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, lost my camera for a.

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Speaker 2: Second herey are were you lighting a match over there?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Hello to everybody joining us live on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Hello to the podcast listeners. Everybody do your light button

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Speaker 2: get into a very fun NBA show, where are we

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Speaker 2: going to share reasons for optimism for all thirty NBA teams,

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Speaker 2: lot of teams to talk about. But today marks No Dunks,

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Speaker 2: of podcasts. We wanted to say big thanks to the

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Speaker 2: a great, real great deal. Excuse me. Gratitude to Nick

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Speaker 2: Jesse Burton, Craig Custens, Tim McMaster. Awesome NBA honestly some

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Speaker 2: Adam Jones always in our corner. A thanks mate to him.

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Speaker 2: much he helped us grow this show. He's obviously with

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Speaker 2: the Hello and Welcome podcast up in Canada. Hugs and

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Speaker 4: And then again big announcements coming exactly right, would you

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Speaker 4: Okay, Denver Nuggets is an easy optimism finding mission.

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Speaker 2: Three reasons to me.

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Speaker 4: They got a new bench, new bench. Alert Valentunis. It

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Speaker 4: They have struggled to put players outside of their starting

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Speaker 4: I think that is awesome a reason to be optimistic,

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Speaker 4: But biggest reason you still got the best player in

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Speaker 4: This is the best Nuggets team since their title team.

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Speaker 2: Put them ahead of that title team. We'll see how

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Speaker 2: they all click. Because things were perfect for Denver back

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Speaker 2: half out of ten optimism. Wow, and Jokic coming off

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Speaker 2: There's not enough for oats.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was confused by that currency. It was thirty

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Speaker 5: Force winning a quick race. I can't understand why it.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations think of the season that he could have. He

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Speaker 4: and the Nuggets are at least going to be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, eight and a half is low to me. I'd

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Speaker 1: A ton more championships.

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Speaker 5: Here we are and okay See isn't a lock to

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, Nuclearkich is the best player

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Speaker 5: World and that team got way better around him, and

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Speaker 1: Very excited to see what they got this year.

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Speaker 2: All right, task, let's move to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 5: We're starting with a couple teams here that will give

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Speaker 5: And here we go Anthony Edwards year six. Can he

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Speaker 5: when they traded Carl Anthony Towns. They were still able

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Speaker 5: So you got to be super optimistic about that. And

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Speaker 5: then it trickles down to Julius Randall. We didn't see

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Speaker 5: in the postseason. There's something going on there with Chris

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Speaker 1: So there's that.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot on Rob Dillingham. And I think Dante

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Speaker 5: But when you're led by Aunt, I think you've got

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Speaker 1: Here we go. This is the same freaking teams that

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Speaker 2: And how about Rudy Gobert working in the gym with

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Speaker 4: Didn't Anthony Edwards once say that if Rudy Gobert takes

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Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert is gonna shoot a three this year? He did.

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Speaker 4: I'm optimistic we're gonna see a nude Anthony Edward four

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Speaker 1: He didn't take one last year. I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: But we'll see. I'm it's good for the Timberwolf.

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Speaker 4: They have continuity because they really clicked last season the

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Speaker 2: I just looked it up. Rudy Gobert has never hit

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Speaker 2: guess added up. He's over eighteen, so you can keep

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Speaker 5: I guess yeah, there's yeah, there there's questions I guess

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards should keep his clothes on. Probably, you know

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Speaker 2: we just did Denver Minnesota. They'll be child the defending

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Speaker 2: They have a goal here. They're going to be trying

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Speaker 2: to do something that hasn't happened in a while in

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Speaker 2: Can they snap the NBA like parody championship streak that

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Speaker 2: we are sort of in a lot of You know this,

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Speaker 2: for the first time in NBA history, we had seven

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Speaker 2: different champions across seven different consecutive seasons. Raps in nineteen,

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Speaker 2: Lakers in the Bubble, even though Darryl Morriy says doesn't count. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in their run to the title. Everybody super Max for SGA,

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Speaker 2: no brainer max deals for Chet Holmgren and j Dubb,

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Speaker 2: I think he'll be twenty next season. But I just

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Speaker 2: they take their foot off the guest. They do not

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Speaker 5: Everybody knows it, no question topic. You might have a

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Speaker 5: there's there's really nothing to poke holes and shake Gil

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Speaker 5: know's there's no hole And yes, these guys are not

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, like what they call they went

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Speaker 2: flirting with seventy wins like they did last year? What

439
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Speaker 2: do you think?

440
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Speaker 4: Sixty plus for sure? But I don't think sixty eight

441
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 4: sixty five less than that. Like I think they'll play

442
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 4: topitch like they play young guys during the regular season.

443
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 4: Aj Mitchell is also a good player, and this guy's

444
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Speaker 4: maybe their third point guard. Topich and aj Mitchell would

445
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 4: be like a development piece for twenty teams and the

446
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 4: NBA would be happy to have those guys as a

447
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 4: young rookie, second year player who they're building up to

448
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 4: figure out what they've got and they're like, maybe you

449
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 4: can get ten minutes a game, yeah for this team.

450
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, okay, see, the only way I

451
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 4: don't see him making the conference finals is a SGA

452
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 4: gets hurt. I think they can do it. If Jada

453
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 4: gets hurt. I think they can do it if Check

454
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 4: gets hurt. Like we've seen them still be successful without

455
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 4: those guys. The key for them is keeping Shay healthy,

456
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 4: and that guy is pretty healthy all the time.

457
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

458
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good point about aj Mitchell them. Maybe

459
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 5: their goal, if they have any goals other than what

460
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 5: they normally do, is to have another ball handler. I

461
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 5: do believe so aj Mitchell could be that guy.

462
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: But they're stacked and they can and they are one

463
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 2: of these teams that can have an unfortunate injury to

464
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: a guy or two or three, and they just have

465
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: so many guys that they can slot.

466
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 5: In like they had last year exactly exactly, So Chetton

467
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 5: Hertenstein playing a full season together will be fun if

468
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 5: they play together.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's keep it going. Tray back to

470
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Speaker 2: you Portland Trailblazers. Well, I was feeling more optimistic before

471
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: we started with the Nuggets, Timberwolves, and thunder all in

472
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: their same division, not just the same conference.

473
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 4: Like those are three conference finals slash finals slash title

474
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 4: competitors ahead of the Trailblazers, who I'm still excited to

475
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 4: see what they do. Like I'm excited to see young Hanson.

476
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to play as much as

477
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 4: we're anticipating, because this should be a Donovan Klingen start.

478
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 4: But the thing I'm most optimistic about is Scooters Tutors.

479
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 4: Talking about Scoot Henderson going into year three with three

480
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame point guards to learn.

481
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: Tutors I've heard before.

482
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 4: Come on, can't you imagine like a caricature shirt that

483
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 4: says like Scooters Tutors and it's got Billups, Drew Holliday,

484
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: and Dame Lillard behind Scoot Henderson like rooting them on,

485
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 4: kind of oh.

486
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like I see like they're almost like professors

487
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: or something. He's at the chalkboard, you know, like point position.

488
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: I love it.

489
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

490
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Speaker 4: So thirty five percent on three for Scoot last season

491
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 4: on four and a half attempts, that's pretty good. Shot

492
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 4: forty seven percent on twos, which was an improvement but

493
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 4: still not very good. But it's year three for this guy.

494
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 4: A lot of players make a leap in year three.

495
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 4: He was comped to Dereck Rose coming into the draft.

496
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 4: He's not the athlete that Dereck Rose was, but in

497
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 4: year three is when Derek Rose won MVP. He figured

498
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 4: out how to attack the rim and use his body

499
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 4: to draw fouls, which really helps your efficiency, and I

500
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 4: think that's something Scoot can do as well. I don't

501
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 4: necessarily think that having a bunch of good point guards

502
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 4: who were good ten years ago means that Scoot is

503
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 4: gonna be good, but they're putting him in a good situation.

504
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: He just needs to be the main offensive driver for

505
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 4: this team, which maybe is a little bit more to

506
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: ask from him. So I'm more of like a six

507
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 4: of ten optimistic wise for the Trailblazers, just because they're

508
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 4: on the Western Conference, man, and it's tough. We're just

509
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 4: talking about their division. They got three awesome teams ahead

510
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 4: of them. A good season for Portland this year would

511
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 4: be to make the play In Tournament. But I think

512
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 4: they should at least make a run at the play

513
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 4: in Tournament. I don't guarantee they're gonna be there, but

514
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 4: I like what they did the second half of last season.

515
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: You know, the guy that maybe were holding them back

516
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: from taking a developmental leap, and Anthony Simon's and DeAndre

517
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: and those guys are gone. It's all youth. It's all

518
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 4: about getting better going forward. So I do like where

519
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: the Blazers are at. Unfortunately, they do play against the

520
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: lot of the good dreams.

521
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they won thirty six games last year, and I

522
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 2: bring that up because I just looked at their MGM,

523
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: you know, win total prediction line heading into next season,

524
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: it's at thirty three and a half. And again, I

525
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 2: think it just speaks to the loaded Western Conference, like

526
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: they're like, I don't think you think this team got worse.

527
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: I don't think ay one thinks that, But maybe it's

528
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: a little fool's goal. At the end of the year

529
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: when they did sort of turn things around, like they

530
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: leaned into a defensive or they found a bit of

531
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: a defensive identity and I think that helped them win

532
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: some games. Again, some of those games in March and stuff.

533
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: It's like a little weird. There's injuries and all that,

534
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I like to hit that over

535
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: a little bit, a little bit. I don't see why

536
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: they're much worse or at all record wise than last year.

537
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: So I feel pretty I think the competing for a

538
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: play in spot is the goal and should be and

539
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: I think they can be there come later part of

540
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: the regular season.

541
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: That's the goal playing.

542
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 5: There's so much talent on this roster, and I guess

543
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 5: that is the optimism, is that all that talent is

544
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 5: gonna be taught by great talent, you know, over the

545
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 5: last five six years. So they started fourteen and twenty

546
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: eight last year, so you know, midway through the year

547
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 5: they were on pace for about twenty seven twenty eight wins.

548
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: So they played better than the second they did.

549
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: They kicked ass.

550
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Danny Avdia is gonna be there's gonna be

551
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 5: a lot on him. He's gonna be so good. You

552
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 5: mentioned client like they have a really good starting lineup,

553
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 5: you know, even with Scoot Headerson essentially coming off the bench.

554
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: Probably they should be good.

555
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: They should be Yeah, and we've talked already a lot

556
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: about like it does feel like a scoot slash sharp

557
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: like who really can level up? Can one of those?

558
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: Can both those guys like sort of be like, whoa,

559
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: this guy's a cornerstone guy for our team moving forward.

560
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: And that's where the help comes in with I guess

561
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: Drew and Damien and Phillip says, your head coach being

562
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: a point guard, Hall of Fame point guard, like helping

563
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: those guys develop.

564
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, with Simon's out, with Andrey Simon's gone, they have time.

565
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 5: They have time to opportunity for time to play. Anyway,

566
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 5: do you think.

567
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday is going to be in the Hall of Fame.

568
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: That's a great question.

569
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: I mentioned him as a Hall of Fame point guard.

570
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: Two titles, one All Star appearance or what we maybe

571
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: got one of three All Star appearances he had the

572
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 4: one with Philadelphia back then.

573
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure he made it with the Bucks as well.

574
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: But two time All Star, two time All Star, six

575
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: time All Defensive Player, two time champ. Yeah, people love

576
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: this guy.

577
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think I think he gets in when

578
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 5: the voters want to have somebody in for his off

579
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 5: the court type of contribution to the game.

580
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 2: I think that definitely helps him.

581
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: You know, you're probably right, probably not a first balloter,

582
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: but during the right year, he'll make.

583
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: It sounds more realistic. Definitely not a first ballot Hall

584
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: of Famer. That's not even a knock on true guys. Yeah,

585
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: sixteen point per game score for his career. He played

586
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: a long time though I'm still playing and I don't

587
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: know's he even going to be in Portland? What are

588
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: they going to do? Can anybody? Will anybody take Jeremy

589
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: Grant's contract? And again off that so questions are in Portland.

590
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: But some optimism. Final team in the Northwest task Utah Jazz.

591
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: Well, it gets it gets bleak with the Blazers. Now

592
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 5: it gets real bleak with the Utah Jazz.

593
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: But I'm going to be optimistic.

594
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 5: This is going to be the fifth place team in

595
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: the Northwest Division. They could be as projected to be

596
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: the fifteenth best team in the Western Conference. But I

597
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 5: think they can take that going into the season, say

598
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 5: we are underrated and we are better than that. Lowry

599
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: Markinen will be their leader. He'll be fresh off the

600
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 5: euro Basket where he's leading his finish team, and I

601
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: do think the offense running through him will be optimal.

602
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: I think it'll be really good.

603
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 5: Two years ago when Lowry Marketing got there, Will Hardy

604
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 5: got him to buy in into basically, you know, running

605
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 5: around mid ranging out and being a primary focus. And

606
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 5: this was a middle of the pack offense. So I

607
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 5: think they can get closer to that with everything focused

608
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 5: on him. Guy like Kyle Anderson coming and being those

609
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 5: sort of the connectors to those guys. Kevin loved to

610
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 5: teach them guys before he leaves later this season, and

611
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 5: then guys like Kyle Philipowski and Ace Bailey. I mean,

612
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 5: this team is going to be huge, and I think

613
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 5: that's They're going to shoot a ton of threes. The

614
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: question is with their guard play, where are they going

615
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 5: to get it from. I think they They've got a

616
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 5: decent amount of good bigs. But Walter Clayton could be

617
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 5: the steal of the draft. That guy looks awesome and

618
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 5: I think he is a very talented, just talented dude.

619
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 5: He looked he looked like fun in Summer League, like

620
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 5: he's just a smart guy. And I think that's good

621
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 5: for their offense because Walter Clayton isn't a guy who's

622
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: going to try and take every single shot, and that's

623
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 5: wonderful for Will Hardy offense. I think Will Hardy will

624
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 5: get them to buy and everybody flying around the three

625
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: point line, and you know they have other guys like

626
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 5: Isaiah Collier and Conte George to run the point. But

627
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 5: I think Walter Clayton will be the sign of the

628
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 5: future for this team because I don't know. I'm buying

629
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: Will Hardy getting these guys to work and getting Larry

630
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 5: markin in to be the focus of their offense, and

631
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: we'll see what Ace Bailey can do around him. But

632
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 5: they have a bunch of different guys. I don't know

633
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 5: if Walker Kessler is gonna be there right who knows?

634
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: The team is like a three like a all five

635
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 5: out type of team. Use of nurki It's gonna shoot

636
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 5: a lot of threes. I can't believe I said use

637
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 5: of Nurkic's name. But they're gonna play. He's on the Jets,

638
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 5: He's on the Jezz.

639
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: I thought the keyword you said there. If you're a

640
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Jazz fan going into next season is hopefully fun. Is

641
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: it a fun squad because they're gonna be picked by

642
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: everybody be dead last in the Western Conference. Yeah, like

643
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: I will they even get to twenty wins at least.

644
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: They've already decided heading into the season that we're sort

645
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: of like not even tanking, but like, hey, it's the

646
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: it's the young generation here and we are just starting

647
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: with that. We've traded or got rid of all of

648
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: our vets, and don't worry. We won't have to like

649
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: fake shut down guys with like pseudo injuries to like

650
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: not win as many games because we want to help

651
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: our lottery chances. Like that's not even gonna be a

652
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: problem because they're just so young and they're gonna see

653
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: what they have there. But hopefully they're entertaining at the

654
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: very least.

655
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I like for them the fact Jordan Clarkson

656
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 5: Consectson are gone. You don't have to shoot a lot

657
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: from the back court. You're gonna run through things through

658
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 5: the big men, and guys like Walter Clayton will run

659
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 5: a good offense. I do think he's a champ. He's

660
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: a Florida champ, and so let these other guys play.

661
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 5: Let it run through the big Guys, I think that's

662
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 5: what will happen with this team.

663
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: You'll be excited to maybe talk about or watch on

664
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: the Jazz Ace Bailey, Okay, that's about it. Okay, Yeah,

665
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: I think there should and I think they will trade

666
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: Lowry Markinen this season. It just doesn't really make sense

667
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: for him to stick around.

668
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: All of their best players are like twenty two and younger.

669
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 4: It's a new front office kind of. It's like a

670
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: part of the new front office's son coming over. So

671
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: I don't think they're necessarily tied to any of the

672
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: previous draft picks like the Keyante George Taylor Hendricks sort of. Guys,

673
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 4: I don't think they're necessarily there, So I don't think

674
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: market and sticking around makes much sense. The Jazz are

675
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: still in rebuild mode, so it would make sense for them.

676
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: To get some more assets.

677
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: It's back for you know, a guy who doesn't really

678
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: fit their time frame now, and the Jazz are going

679
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: to be wearing completely new jerseys.

680
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: They did like a half rollout. Yeah last season. They're

681
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: adding even more.

682
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: Mountainous looks this year, and I'm optimistic that those will

683
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: look good.

684
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Okay, that's nice, A good little thing to look forward to.

685
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's move to the Pacific Division Golden State Warriors.

686
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: I've got this team. Reason for optimism is a full

687
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: season with Jimmy Butler. This is a bit of a

688
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: no brainer here. They traded for him in February, and

689
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: then they finished twenty three and seven when he was

690
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: playing over the final thirty games, a pretty damn good record. Now,

691
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: a lot of other teams in the West were putting

692
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: up really good records as we headed into the playoffs

693
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: as well, But over that stretch, the Warriors had the

694
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: best defense in the league. It was a one zh

695
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: nine point zero defensive rating when you got Jimmy beside

696
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: Raymond Green. Obviously Steph was playing there. They had a

697
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: really good net rating over those final thirty games, only

698
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: behind Ocase and Boston. They led the NBA in assist percentage.

699
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: Like the ball was moving. They looked good. And then

700
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: in the playoffs they got by the Rockets in seven.

701
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: I forgot how important Jimmy was in that game one

702
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: to set the tone in that series. Twenty five points,

703
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: seven boards, six assists, five steals. But then he got

704
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: banged up. Obviously, as a playoffs went on, Steph Curry

705
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: got taken out of the lineup, so like things sort

706
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: of like derailed quickly. But if they're healthy and they

707
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: have these three guys, I know they got a lot

708
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: of things to figure out here. Were still with Kaminga

709
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: and restricted free agency, and we don't need to talk

710
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: about that on today's plod. And then obviously once they

711
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: do figure that out, Horford and Melton and stuff like that.

712
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: But you got Jimmy here to start training camp and

713
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: with this season, they should be a good team. I

714
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: think they're fascinating where people sort of slot them in

715
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference and how much faith you do

716
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: have in these sort of old guys. But that's the reason.

717
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: Jimmy's there from the jump, and they were good when

718
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: he was there. They were really good when he was there.

719
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: But you look at their Basketball reference page and they

720
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: got ten guys on their roster right now because they

721
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: haven't been able to fill things out because of the

722
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: minga question. I'm more bullish on the Warriors in the

723
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: playoffs than I am during the regular season. I think

724
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: they can still be down near the play tournament just

725
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: because Steph will miss a little bit of time, draymondill

726
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: miss a little bit of time.

727
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: Jimmy will miss a little bit of time.

728
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: This is an old, old team, and the key will

729
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: be having them healthy come April, May and June if

730
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: they're fortunate. So it makes sense for them to kind

731
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: of manage minutes and the load on these guys bodies

732
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: going through the regular season. But once it's into seven

733
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: game series mode, I'm scared of the Warriors for sure.

734
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, the question is the depth that they add. Will

735
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: it be younger guys, because I would want them to

736
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: play a lot of minutes in the regular season. So

737
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 5: I don't love the idea of a injured d' anthony

738
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 5: Melton coming back, although I'm a d Anthony Melton fan.

739
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 5: An old Al Horford coming back.

740
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: They can't even play back the backs.

741
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's old. He makes the team even older.

742
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 5: Gary Bayton the second coming back, who's you know, a

743
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: guy who's been banged up. So I'm a little worried

744
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: about the regular season. As you said, the playoffs, nobody's worried.

745
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 5: We will see what they do. But yeah, this is

746
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: this is an old team. Draymond Green's gray beard is

747
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 5: getting is It's a little bit worrisome for the Worris.

748
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: LA Clippers, Trey, why are you excited? I think they're

749
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: gonna be the best team in LA this year.

750
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: I believe it.

751
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: Both the Clippers and Lakers won fifty games last season.

752
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: The Lakers did win this season series three to one.

753
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 4: I think once we get to like preseason tiers and stuff,

754
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: we'll probably have the Lakers and Clippers in the same tier,

755
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: and I would have the Clippers just ahead of them

756
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 4: because I think they probably have the best two deep

757
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 4: in the league. At point guard, they got James Harden

758
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: and Chris Paul. At shooting guard, Bradley Beild and Bogdan Bogdanovic.

759
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 4: Four Bees, two men killer Bees.

760
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: Pretty cool.

761
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 4: It's small forward Kawhi Leonard, Derek Jones junior, power forward

762
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 4: John Collins, Nick Matoom, center, Avitza Zubats, and Brook Lopez.

763
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: We're talking about Derek Jones junior and Chris Dunn as

764
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 4: the tenth and eleventh man on this team.

765
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: That's pretty deep.

766
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: Though I haven't checked every team, the Clippers top eleven

767
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: are all born in nineteen ninety seven or earlier.

768
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: They've got four guys who were born in the A.

769
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: It's I think the oldest somebody say it's the oldest

770
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: team ever, it must be. Yeah, I mean, how do

771
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: you not have one guy in your rotation who was

772
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: born in the two thousands. Yeah, that's that's something to

773
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: worry about. Sure, But if you're gonna have old guys,

774
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: get a.

775
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: Lot of them, because eventually, when they miss time, you

776
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 4: can just slide one of these guys in, right, Like

777
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: Chris Dunn is a pretty solid point guard.

778
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: He was really good for the Clippers last year, and

779
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: he's basically an emergency guy or a defensive stopper guy

780
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: for them.

781
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: So I'm feeling optimistic about the Clippers. I'm like a

782
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 4: seven of ten. It's the preseason, it's the regular season.

783
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: It's talking yourself into them time, of course, of course,

784
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: but we're being optimistic here.

785
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: We're not talking about a playoff series. We all know

786
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 4: how that's gonna go. But right now things are awesome

787
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 4: for LA.

788
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

789
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: I like people comparing the Clippers to like the old

790
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: team that shows up at the YMCA, like the old guys,

791
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: and like you're just like, damn, why can't we beat

792
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: these guys? You know, like the kids are thinking that,

793
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: Like these guys are like twenty years older. Than us,

794
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: but they just got all the skills still, but probably

795
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: with the old guys, they do get injured and get

796
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: banged up, and we'll see on paper it looks awesome.

797
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: But we've said that many times with the LA Clippers.

798
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: But I know you're you seem to be a fan

799
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: of at least what they did in the off season,

800
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: what they've added here.

801
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

802
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 5: The fact that they had the same amount of wins

803
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 5: as the Lakers last year and got better in the

804
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 5: vote in this off season, I think that tells you

805
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 5: that they're going to be good. And they've had fourteen

806
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 5: straight seasons of winning records. That's the active leader in

807
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 5: the NBA. Because it's fourteen frickin' straight seasons. The question

808
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 5: is win does it end? Because they are old? And

809
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 5: that's the interesting thing to me is watching this team

810
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 5: with such a short window. How many more years can

811
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: this team stay together with all these older guys at

812
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: the top. But that's what makes it fun. This year

813
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 5: has there has has a chance for them to be good.

814
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: I don't know what they're going to do in the playoffs.

815
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: I don't They could be incredible. They could be incredible.

816
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 5: They almost beat.

817
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: The Denver Nuggets.

818
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 5: I know it's just the Denver Nuggets, and the Nuggets

819
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 5: aren't champion, but they almost got them, so they got better,

820
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 5: that's all.

821
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all.

822
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: About matchups and health come playoff time, so we'll see

823
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: what happens. But basically, the Clippers have a two year

824
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: window this year and next year and then twenty twenty seven.

825
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: They've got zu bots under contract and then guys that

826
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: they have recently drafted.

827
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: So it's now or number for LA right right the

828
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: Lakers tests Oh yeah, Lucas Hotbod.

829
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: I would say the guy that got drafted way earlier

830
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: than him is why you should be optimistic. They just

831
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: have the number one pick of the twenty eighteen draft

832
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 5: coming on in deandreiden Deandraden is going into his prime.

833
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: He's twenty seven years old. I know, no one's high

834
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 5: on him outside of LA. I mean, listen, the Clippers

835
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 5: got way better than the off season on paper. The

836
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: Lakers did too. Yeah, DeAndre Ayton will play and that's

837
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: a great sign.

838
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Because JJ Redick is going to play him.

839
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 5: JJ Ridick did an incredible job of playing essentially Lebron

840
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 5: at center in the playoffs. That front line of Lebron

841
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: ruy Atcha Mura and Dorian Finney Smith's that's who.

842
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: They're playing, and that's who they were playing. And they're both.

843
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 5: Playing Lebron Luca over forty minutes. They're all playing heavy,

844
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 5: heavy minutes. So Deandreten gets the slide in. If anyone

845
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 5: can do something with Dean Drayton can help him be

846
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 5: who he was when they drafted him in twenty eighteen,

847
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 5: he was talking about video games and in an elevator

848
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 5: with Luka Doncic. If anyone can get that from him,

849
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 5: it's Lebron. You got a guy here in Lebron who's

850
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 5: planning on playing eighty two games last year and he

851
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 5: did obviously get hurt, but the guy, just the guy

852
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 5: plays through everything. So if there's anybody that can get

853
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 5: Deandreyten to hustle to play on defense, hopefully it's a Guretic,

854
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 5: but it could be it could be Lebron James. And

855
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 5: so there's that exciting side of things that they got Deandrayton,

856
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 5: and then there's the other side. I mean, that's what

857
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 5: makes this potentially entertaining, is that this team, you know,

858
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: it could could implode. I mean, you have you've got that.

859
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 5: You've got that, You've got the fun part. John Drayden, Luca,

860
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 5: as you said, extremely felt. Maybe it's the photos, but whatever,

861
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: he looks good. Then on the other side, I mean

862
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 5: things just may not go right. There's this whole lebron

863
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 5: Is Leading type of thing you could have like the

864
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

865
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: Type of field in there.

866
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: You know, like it just may not be all that

867
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: great on the floor, but but also they have great talent.

868
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 5: So the scary part is they are in the Western Conference.

869
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 5: There's a lot of great teams, and so to get

870
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 5: them into the level of the teams of Denver, Houston, Okay,

871
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 5: see Minnesota, I mean that's gonna be tough.

872
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to go back to what you said, Yeah,

873
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: like get the pole goaling. Clippers are Lakers, Like who

874
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: do you have more faith in? Like how do you

875
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: put those two teams in order? If you haven't been

876
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: the same tier, sure, but where do you put them

877
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: in order? You guys are leaning more sorts of Clippers.

878
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: Maybe in the regular season, I think I'm still more Lakers,

879
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: But but they did great work and they have guys

880
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: that like it is a real like they got guys

881
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: like in the Clippers situation Beale of course, and then

882
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: eating for the Lakers jumps to mind, like, guys have

883
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: got to prove something here to the rest of the league,

884
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: like have like sort of been cast aside or question

885
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: and like, and they're still good players and maybe in

886
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: this different environment with better talent around them, that they

887
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: can pop. So we'll see. You know, Look, anybody's better

888
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: than Jackson Hayes is a starting center, That's right, So

889
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: you now.

890
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: Have I've been looking at Airbnb's on eighton Island. Oh nice,

891
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna move there, but I might visit visit.

892
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: I think it's time for a bounce back. Okay, Yeah,

893
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 4: he's been lost in Portland. Nobody really has to set

894
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: him up. He's got two great setup men in Luca

895
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: and Lebron, plus motivation, plus the Lakers really need him

896
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: to perform.

897
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: So I feel.

898
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: So good. Phoenix Suns are our next team in the

899
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: Pacific Division. The reason that I'm excited for this team,

900
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: which is a little difficult if I'm being honest, is

901
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: I guess just the idea of a complete transformation, right.

902
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: It is sort of a fresh start. I know Booker

903
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: is their guy. Still they gave him the huge extension.

904
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 2: That's fine, but they have everything is new, new GM,

905
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: new coach, and basically an entire new roster. Seven guys out,

906
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: including Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal. Six new guys in,

907
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: including Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, Mark Williams, who the Lakers

908
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: you know, obviously did have for a hot second, but

909
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: he's there in Phoenix now. They drafted Mallowatch with the

910
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: number ten pick. They claimed Jordan Goodwin, another Lakers player

911
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: off of the waiver wire, and they've took some flyers

912
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: here on one year deals for Jared Butler and Nigel

913
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: Hayes Davis who was like a EuroLeague MVP guy. So

914
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: they're completely new. They're trying to get a little defense

915
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: I think out there on the floor to work around

916
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 2: their guy and Booker. This could be a very down year,

917
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: there's no doubt. But at the same time, they just

918
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: kept disappointing when they had all these like superstars. They

919
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: were paying crazy amount of money too, So I guess

920
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm like excited, oddly excited for this team because they're

921
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: super low expectations and maybe they do just lean into

922
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 2: a different type of basketball around book, but they're gonna

923
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: probably get lost in the loaded Western Conference. They'll probably

924
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: be happy if they're challenging for a play in spot

925
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: because I think they're like probably peg to win thirty

926
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: to thirty five games something like that. I don't know,

927
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: maybe I have a little more faith in them. Bo.

928
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Suns?

929
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 5: I think a big important part of this is just

930
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: how their leaders lead, Devin Booker said going into this offseason,

931
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 5: when he was asked what do you got to work on?

932
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: He basically said everything. Did you see our team? And

933
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: so will Devin Booker be that type of guy? And

934
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 5: then Jalen Green to follow him? Will he have learned

935
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: a lot from being in Houston, being beside Fred van

936
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: Vliet to being those type of leaders. And Dylan Brooks

937
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 5: comes in as well.

938
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean he was he helped me Dnedy in Houston.

939
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: Perhaps there is no doubt lover hate Dylan Brooks. He

940
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: helped Can you do that again in Phoenix? That is

941
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: it is a legitimate question.

942
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: I just want, from my perspective, to watch a team

943
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: that wants to play hard.

944
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: I mean it was tough watching this team.

945
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: Were a watch and you know, what I sort of

946
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: compare them to. Maybe we'll see. It's like someone that

947
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: was maybe like not cool in like elementary school or

948
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: even I guess high school, if you want to use that,

949
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: Like they were sort of like, yeah, just were picked

950
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: on or really didn't like know who they were. And

951
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: then you get that chance when you go to a

952
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: new university or college, like you sort of get that

953
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: fresh start because you get to leave all that behind.

954
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: That's sort of what the Suns feel like to me,

955
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: and maybe it works out in their favor. It's like

956
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: nobody knows you were a deep in high school. At

957
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: this new school, you get to like reinvent yourself. That's

958
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: exactly right.

959
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: We all get to reinvent ourselves going from high school

960
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: to college. Hopefully the same happens for the Suns. They

961
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: got some new clothes, which I think is good.

962
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 7: They got more youthful clothes, and they got more athletic clothes,

963
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 7: and they got more defensive oriented clothes, which is all

964
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 7: good for the regular season because I think that's where

965
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 7: the Sun season will end.

966
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: Yes, no one's picking this team too, maybe even make

967
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: the playoffs, let alone do anything. I don't think they'll

968
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: make yeah, play in. Yeah, it's it's a reset year

969
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: and it's trying and like like we said, like we

970
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: just went over, like we get an identity because we

971
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: use our identity was we just had like a black

972
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: cloud hanging over our heads the last couple of year.

973
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: Our team was literally named the Suns. It doesn't make sense,

974
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: right right, Get that sunshine back in your life. That's

975
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: the goal. That's the optimism here.

976
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: I love it.

977
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 5: It's the season of reinventing yourself, like no Dunks transitioning

978
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: to a new era.

979
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: It's the season. It's the season.

980
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 2: It's an perfect example. Like the Phoenic Suns are changing

981
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: their name or their jerseys. There's still the Phoenix Suns,

982
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: just like but there's something going to be new y.

983
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: I guess what we're saying is get weird, Phoenix AJD

984
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: Weird play five centers? Why not play the mascot? Gorilla

985
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: is very athletic, very he's falling off man play a dog,

986
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: the premiere mascot, the.

987
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: Rolling out on the motorcycle, the gorilla.

988
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who to do that.

989
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: I think I've seen I've definitely seen him on the money.

990
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think think motorcycle mascot. I think

991
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: of the Utah Jazz mascot quad bike guy, but I'm

992
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: sure the Grill has been on a motorcycle. Yeah, yeah,

993
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: maybe I heard. If Mark william shoots the three, the

994
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: Grill is going to take.

995
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: It's man's born.

996
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: The new era is going to be horny in all right,

997
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings Tray, good luck. Yeah, this is my greatest challenge.

998
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: We silet these thirty teams up between the three of us,

999
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: so we each got ten and this is by far

1000
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: my toughest in the Western Conference, probably in the entire league.

1001
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: You know, they won forty eight games as the Beam

1002
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: team a couple of years ago, followed that up with

1003
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: a decent season forty six and then forty. Last year.

1004
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: They lost Jonas Valanciunas, they lost Jake Laavia, they brought

1005
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 4: in Dennis Shrewder, and they're trying for Jonathan Kaminga. None

1006
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: of this is reasons for optimism. Yet they're gonna get

1007
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 4: a full season of Devin Carter.

1008
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic, mystic.

1009
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what's weird. Though. They also drafted Knee Clifford,

1010
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: who I liked.

1011
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 4: He's older than Devin Carter, that's right, And Devin Kueter

1012
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 4: was like the oldest rookie in the league last year

1013
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: maybe outside of Tarren Shannon Junr.

1014
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: Here's the crazy part.

1015
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: Both of those guys are eighteen months older than Keegan Murray,

1016
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 4: who's going into.

1017
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: His fourth Season's wild.

1018
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 4: What Literally the Kings are like, we need people who

1019
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: can help now, and hopefully these guys can help now.

1020
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: So for me, I am most optimistic they are not

1021
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: going to fire a coach this year. Oh interesting, I

1022
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: don't think they will. Low expectations, nobody's expecting them to

1023
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: make it to the playoffs. Maybe Vivek is hoping for

1024
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 4: a play in birth or something like that. But they

1025
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: went twenty seven and twenty four under Doug Christy last year,

1026
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: decent records.

1027
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: Over five hundred better than I would have remembered. For sure.

1028
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: He was their fourteenth coach since two thousand. So anytime

1029
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: the Kings don't fire a coach during the season, that's

1030
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: a good.

1031
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: Season, do you think. Because they had so much success

1032
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: with the Beam team and that idea that like gimmick,

1033
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: if you want to call it, that really took off

1034
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: and everybody was loving should they like come up with

1035
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: a new one, like shoot something else off the top,

1036
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: like maybe or like that's sort of a visual thing.

1037
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: The Beam I don't like. Scream team something audio.

1038
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 4: Specific, okay, the building screams stream team. We get whichever

1039
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: player played the best gets get on the mic at

1040
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 4: the end of the game and yell as loud as

1041
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 4: they can yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the fans yelled back.

1042
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: Free idea ye, try scream team, stream team, think of

1043
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: the Scream team for what used to be the Beam Team.

1044
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: Kings let us know any any thoughts on Sacramento.

1045
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: I just want to know what they're doing.

1046
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: I mean, they have this very old side of things

1047
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 5: with the bonus Levine and and de Rosen and lak

1048
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: Monk is an interesting part. I think they made freedom

1049
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 5: by all account.

1050
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they might.

1051
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 2: I think they might.

1052
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Now they've got guys that work hard.

1053
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 5: As you said, Devin Carter and his haircut, hairstyle, I

1054
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 5: guess I would call it with that part. Things got

1055
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 5: going on with Kean ellis very fun, guys, the second

1056
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 5: coming of Doug Christy out there on the floor. So

1057
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 5: it's fun to watch sometimes. But in the Western Conference,

1058
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 5: it's just not a recipe to win enough they are

1059
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 5: trying to transition. I think it seems like the roster,

1060
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 5: but I don't know if it's I don't know. I

1061
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 5: just don't know when it's going to number one happen

1062
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: and number two. How many wins this team should be

1063
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 5: should be pegged for. As you said, twenty seven to

1064
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: twenty four means above five hundred I think would be

1065
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 5: a good season.

1066
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: The line set at thirty seven and a half. That's

1067
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: where they have them at bet MGM for win total.

1068
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: The Suns, by the way, we're thirty and a half.

1069
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: So the King's going to be, you know, seven or

1070
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: eight games better than Phoenix.

1071
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I think so. Yeah.

1072
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: All right, that is the Pacific Division. Let's go to

1073
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: the Southwest Division in the West, the Dallas Mavericks task.

1074
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 5: Everyone is overlooking the Dallas Mavericks. And I'm not just

1075
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 5: being optimistic because it's July thirty four. Everyone is overlooking.

1076
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 5: We can start with Cooper fly again. They've got the

1077
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: rookie of the year. He's gonna win Rookie of the Year.

1078
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 5: Moving down from him, you've got a bunch of really young,

1079
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 5: great talented players like Derek Lively. Everybody forgets about him.

1080
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: He's twenty one, he's a baby, and I think a

1081
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 5: great sign for them if we're looking at the front

1082
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 5: court with Cooper Flyag who's a big dude, along with

1083
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 5: Derek Lively, I don't think Anthony Davis is going to

1084
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: have to play heavy, heavy minutes, which will save him

1085
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: for later on because they have those two and Daniel

1086
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 5: Gafford and guys like Nagie Marshall who's going to play

1087
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 5: big and plays big and let's move to the wing.

1088
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a talented front court. Super talented front

1089
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 5: court with PJ. Washington on the wing, Clay Thompson, who's

1090
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 5: having a heck of an offseason. You love fishing, Clay,

1091
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 5: Clay Trey. Did you see him out on a boat.

1092
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 5: He was fishing with Megan d Stallion.

1093
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: Hey, he took her fishing.

1094
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 5: He took her fishing. Yeah, they loved it.

1095
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: It's great season for Clay exactly exactly. He said he's

1096
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 4: settled in Dallas now, he's living his best life.

1097
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, got his boat.

1098
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 5: Apparently he was trying to talk into into reality that

1099
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 5: he's going to find a big fish this year. He's

1100
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 5: going to catch a big fish. Talking to existence, maybe

1101
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: it'll happen.

1102
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1103
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: That's all I gotta say about the Wings. I mean,

1104
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 5: those are super good. And then you've got Dangel Russell

1105
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 5: as your starting point guard.

1106
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: I know people might say Jela Russell.

1107
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 5: I know, but he was the starting point guard on

1108
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 5: a playoff team a mirror two years ago. In twenty

1109
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: three twenty four. He was the guy for the Los

1110
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 5: Angeles like you're starting. He won't have to do that

1111
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 5: when Kyrie Irving comes back. Kyrie will be out until

1112
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, there's no doubt about that. But they've

1113
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 5: got him as a playoff starter. So you know, combine

1114
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: those two guys that is a decent point guard. You

1115
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 5: got a Namhart lurking somewhere, a Ryan Namhart. So I

1116
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 5: think this team is just being overlooked. Obviously it's health,

1117
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 5: but there's just a bunch of talented dudes and guys

1118
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 5: like Derek Lively, who I mentioned. They are going to

1119
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 5: be a part of a locker room environment that can

1120
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 5: really spur things on. Defensively, this team played super hard

1121
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 5: under Jason Kidd defensively, even with Anthony Davis out, they

1122
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 5: will work hard. So while they have enough offensive talent.

1123
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 5: I think with Anthony Davis and Cooper Flag they will.

1124
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 5: So this is a team that can be really good.

1125
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: This is a team that I guarantee Tass will be

1126
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: taking the over when we eventually get to over underwin.

1127
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: What's that total to you?

1128
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: One more than the Kings thirty eight and a half.

1129
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: You will be pounding that. That's it over for sure?

1130
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: You got it?

1131
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, people are knocking that. Yeah, they're super good.

1132
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: Good team, Houston Rockets. They're a legit championship contender. That's

1133
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: pretty good. That's some optimism right there. I don't think

1134
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: any team did more to improve the roster or to

1135
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: improve their chances at a title in twenty twenty six

1136
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: than the Rockets just did. And they were already a

1137
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: really good team. They had a Kevin Durant, they didn't

1138
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: have to sacrifice sacrifice much depth. That's huge. They bring

1139
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: in Clint Capella as obviously a sort of a big

1140
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: or backup big, Dorian Finney Smith, great defensive wing guy.

1141
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: They resign Vans to a really team friendly contract, and

1142
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: then they showed some faith in Jabari Smith Junior, given

1143
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: him that five year extension, and they again they were good.

1144
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: You dook as an awesome coach, and they have guys

1145
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: that play hard. And now the one glaring hole was like, man,

1146
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: who the hell scores for them? When when things get

1147
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: tight and you need a bucket, they went and got

1148
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: one of the greatest ever do it. So if he's healthy,

1149
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: there should be a lights out team excited to see them.

1150
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: Pretty simple that that's the reason to be excited. They're

1151
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: probably in the class that they could win it all.

1152
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: I think now, I don't think they're not at the top.

1153
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: There are teams above them, but they're right there. Great

1154
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: offseason for.

1155
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 5: Them, no question done. So you don't have them in

1156
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 5: the group below OKAC.

1157
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 2: That's what I meant. I guess, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes,

1158
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 2: I absolutely do. And like Durant, I mean, he's old,

1159
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: like he's got to play and he's got to be

1160
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: healthy at the right time. But again, you talk about

1161
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: when we're just doing this in late July and in

1162
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: the summer, it's like it is all about like, well

1163
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 2: look at the team on paper, Well, man, this looks awesome.

1164
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: This is exactly what they needed. I'm not saying they

1165
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: going to win the title like it did with Okace,

1166
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: but remember Okasee. They went into the playoffs I'm talking

1167
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: two years ago. They saw their limitations. Oh we need

1168
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: a guy that can rebound and play big. Okay, let's

1169
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: get Hartenstein. Oh we need a guy that can actually,

1170
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, shut down the best player on the other team. Defensively,

1171
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: we already have Dort. Let's double it up. We get

1172
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 2: and got Caruso. They saw their their limitations, they saw

1173
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: their holes, they plugged them in. They want a title.

1174
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: I think the Rockets are trying to replicate that they

1175
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: saw what they needed, they saw the limitations, and they

1176
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: got those pieces, I think to help their chances to

1177
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: do it. So good. Good offseason, and Rockets fans got

1178
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: to be pretty excited going into next year. Great offseason.

1179
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: They traded James Harden, they went into the tank, and

1180
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: they had various phases. They went through these second two

1181
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: phases pretty quickly.

1182
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 4: Phase two lasted one season of not winning a playoff series,

1183
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 4: so they beefed up to try and win a playoff series.

1184
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 4: I'm with you, I think this would probably be a

1185
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 4: Western Conference pyramid if we're going Simmons mode. Here at

1186
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: top is the Oklahoma City thunder by themselves, and then

1187
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: the Rockets are in the second tier with the Nuggets

1188
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: and the Timberwolves for me, Yeah, and then who knows,

1189
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 4: you're probably talking about the LA teams after that. But

1190
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: I think Houston they should be optimistic this year. They

1191
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: gotta have one of the top five title lots I'm

1192
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 4: assuming going into next season.

1193
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they're win total for the Houston Rockets fifty

1194
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: four and a half. Yeah, so five sounds you know

1195
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: about right quite a basing them mount. Let's go to

1196
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 2: the Memphis Grizzlies. Tray, I think it's.

1197
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 4: Easy to talk yourself into the Grizzlies being pretty good

1198
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: last season. They finished the year top ten on both

1199
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 4: sides of the ball. I think there were sixth in offense,

1200
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 4: tenth in defense according to Basketball Reference. At the All

1201
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 4: Star break, they were second in the Western Conference thirty

1202
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: six and eighteen.

1203
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: Great record. Now, they fell off after the All Star break.

1204
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: They ended up firing their coach with nine games left

1205
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: in the season. They did finish eighth in the West,

1206
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 2: but only two games out of third place because things

1207
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: were so tight in the Western Conference. As John Morant.

1208
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: Said, they had completely figured out the Oklahoma City Thunder

1209
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: before he got injured, but I am still optimist for

1210
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies because this should be Jaw's first normal summer

1211
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: in years. In twenty twenty three, he was going to

1212
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 4: be suspended coming into the year. Last season twenty twenty four,

1213
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 4: he was coming off surgery.

1214
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: This year.

1215
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: Smart maybe of the Grizzlies to fire Taylor Jenkins last

1216
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 4: season so they could install Thamas Eslo as the guy

1217
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: because John Morant was pretty good after Taylor Jenkins was fired. Look,

1218
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 4: it was only seven games, but still twenty eight points

1219
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 4: per game, six assists per game, forty eight thirty eight,

1220
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: seventy five shooting splits. All of that is above his

1221
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 4: season averages. Basically, Isolo said, go be Ja Moran out there,

1222
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: and that's what the Grizzlies need to get back to

1223
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: fine in the West status. I don't think they're necessarily

1224
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: a contender right now, but I foresee them still being

1225
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 4: competitive in the Western Conference.

1226
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: Reasons not for optimism. Jaron Jackson Junior had surgery.

1227
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 4: This summer immediately after he signed his extension. They don't

1228
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 4: think he's going to miss time, but still you would

1229
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 4: rather him be healthy and working out over the summer

1230
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: rather than recuperating from an injury, Desmond Bain has gone,

1231
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: Zach Edy is injured all ready. They didn't play their

1232
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 4: rookie Cedric Coward, who is an older guy. They didn't

1233
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: play him in summer League because he's dealing with recovery

1234
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: from surgery. So maybe I'm hurting my optimism here, but

1235
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: I still think the Grizzlies can be.

1236
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 2: Good when they have their guys on the court.

1237
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 4: It's gonna look different, But I think they did a

1238
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 4: did a good job bringing in KCP Ty Jerome to

1239
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: kind of mitigate the loss of shooting from Canard leaving,

1240
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 4: from Desmond Baine leaving. So I think the Grizzlies are

1241
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 4: probably a middle of the pack team and the Western Conference.

1242
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: But John Morant is going to be more fun to

1243
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: watch this season than he was last year.

1244
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: He's already been pretty fun in the offseason.

1245
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: Here.

1246
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: All these dunk videos of him, I believe in China,

1247
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: I think are the ones I've seen. He's overseas somewhere

1248
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: selling his new shoe, and holy crap, some of the

1249
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: dunks he was throwing down or you're like, oh my god, dude,

1250
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: just going the dunk contest already. But then there was

1251
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: one scare to go back to all these cos. You

1252
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: see the one where you went to go dunk over

1253
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: a guy, he slips in the lane, yes, and like

1254
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: slides like crashes into the guy, and it looks scary.

1255
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: For a second. He seemed okay, the guy seemed okay.

1256
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: But it's like they must be like, okay, plays, don't

1257
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: plays no more. You got enough cool dunks from the

1258
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: off season, the Grizzlies front office. Don't get injured man

1259
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: trying to dunk over a guy.

1260
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 5: But I guess that's why he said I'm not dunking

1261
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 5: anymore because he gets injured. But yeah, then he just

1262
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 5: starts stunking again. That's why I'm optimistic, is that you

1263
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 5: might get a full on John Morant year. The ball

1264
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 5: is going to be given to him. That's what Thomas

1265
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 5: Silo did. As you said, yeah, the worrisome part. Sorry

1266
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 5: to go optimism and negative in the same sentence, But yeah,

1267
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 5: the Jared Jackson Junior think it's a turf toe knocks

1268
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 5: you out for three months. It's kind of weird that

1269
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 5: he won't be even going through a full on training camp.

1270
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 5: But it doesn't seem like if I'm reading the Timelight correctly,

1271
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 5: he's going to come back in October. Yeah, it's basically

1272
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 5: early October. If he's back, that's when he'll be reevaluated.

1273
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: That that stinks.

1274
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 5: I mean, that is the guy that you rely on

1275
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 5: a lot. Seems like this unpaper, this team could be

1276
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 5: good if you have those two guys going.

1277
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: And you guys talking it out. I'm like, could John

1278
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: Morant lead the league in scoring next year? I should play?

1279
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: I mean he's not the greatest three point yeah, sort

1280
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: of Knox his like percentages down a little bit, or

1281
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: is we're gonna be close? He was averaging twenty I mean, yeah, okay,

1282
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: probably not. Yeah now I think no, Shad Fridge thirty

1283
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: three a game last year, but maybe he's like, Okay,

1284
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: I got a lot of points. Pelican's tasks, oh yeah,

1285
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: talking to us.

1286
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 5: Here's the optimistic part. The training staff will have jobs

1287
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 5: for this entire season. They can't like all those guys sit. Yeah,

1288
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 5: there's a lot of injuries. It's unfortunate, but it's hard

1289
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 5: to ignore the guy that they just drafted, the guy

1290
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 5: that they just traded up to drafting Derek Queen injury.

1291
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 5: He's gonna miss training camp essentially already. Jonte Murray out

1292
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 5: with an achilles. He'll be back at some point late

1293
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 5: this season, so you know, unfortunately, you gotta start with that. Now,

1294
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 5: with Murray out, you're gonna need Jordan Poole to be awesome.

1295
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 5: Jordan Pool is gonna have He's gonna have the ball.

1296
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 5: He's gonna have a chance here. Now optimism, Jordan Poole

1297
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 5: lead the league in scoring. Yeah, Washington, he could have

1298
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 5: done it. There's a chance here if if other guys

1299
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 5: are out, because you never know, Zion may not play.

1300
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 5: But here's the optimistic thing about Jordan Pool. They went

1301
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 5: and got Kevon Looney, his Golden State Warriors bud, so

1302
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 5: that is he's there essentially to be his buddy. Smart

1303
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 5: move there by Weaver and dou Marcy do that. Now

1304
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 5: they they're they're just fun if they are playing again. Unfortunately,

1305
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 5: That's the thing is Zion Williamson is playing its center

1306
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 5: as he did. This is fun him playing center with

1307
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 5: Trey Murphy injured. Unfortunately, her Herb Jones gets injured. Unfortunately,

1308
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 5: but maybe those guys come back. You know, those two

1309
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 5: with a Sadik Bay that they got. I don't know

1310
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 5: why they got him, but you know, to to to

1311
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 5: be around Zion at the center spot. They it's fun

1312
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 5: when you look at it that way. And they do

1313
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 5: have a bunch of depth. That's the weird part about

1314
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 5: this team. They are they are deep, but just so

1315
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 5: many of those guys just don't play, you know. So

1316
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 5: they have guys like Eve me Ce and Jeremiah Fears

1317
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 5: who they got in the draft.

1318
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: I love a.

1319
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 5: Jordan Harky Hawk off the bench. They have lots of

1320
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 5: good guys. But you know, that's where we are. That's

1321
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 5: where we are with the Pelicans team. Are they going

1322
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 5: to play? I named a bunch of guys. They've got

1323
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 5: a good, good unit when when they are playing, Yeah,

1324
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 5: Like that's the third is like one of the best

1325
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 5: players like in his position in the league when he's healthy,

1326
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 5: but obviously gets banged up.

1327
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,959
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I'm like twenty one per game last year,

1328
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: but then missed like thirty odd games because that generally

1329
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: is what he does. So, yeah, that's a tough one.

1330
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't get the Pelicans in this uh,

1331
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: in this exercise, because that's difficult to convince yourself to

1332
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: be optimistic heading into this year.

1333
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 5: At least, Yeah, it was easier last year with Zion.

1334
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 5: That was the Zion year. It felt like he was

1335
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 5: he had redesigned himself. And yeah, to some degree, it

1336
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 5: didn't happen. He played thirty games last year. So what

1337
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 5: will we see this year? That's the question. But if

1338
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 5: these guys are hurt, I think they could run out

1339
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 5: another unit of coaches. They've got so many former player coaches.

1340
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that Corey Brewer can run out there.

1341
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 5: Jodie Meeks on this bench. Greg Munroe is a player

1342
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 5: development coach.

1343
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: He's a coach already.

1344
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 7: Up.

1345
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. They got a Jared Collins, they got

1346
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 5: Willy Green used to play.

1347
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: A good team team Actually every position, yeah stacked. Steve

1348
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: was sacked at this assistant coaching position. All right, I

1349
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: got the Spurs. Let's wrap up the Western Conference here.

1350
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: We got a whole conference still to do. What a

1351
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: truth Siico might say the reason for Spurs optimism is

1352
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: them upgrading their front court veterans with Luke Cornett and

1353
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: Kelly Olyn. But even I am not that much of

1354
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: a sicko. That's just a joke. No, the reason is

1355
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: Wu tang Wemby. Come on, he's back, he's medically cleared

1356
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: to return to hoops after recovering from the DVT and

1357
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: the right shoulder. There he was awesome before the injury.

1358
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: Guy average twenty four to eleven and four with nearly

1359
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: four blocks per game and a steel made his first

1360
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: All Star game. What have won Defensive Player of the Year,

1361
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: what have likely made an All NBA team or at

1362
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: least been in mix. But you know, got knocked out

1363
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: of there because of games played reasons. He's back and

1364
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: now you've got dearin Fox to start the season alongside him.

1365
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: He should be motivated by the way Fox. He's heading

1366
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 2: into the last year of his five year, one hundred

1367
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: and sixty three million dollar deal. He only played seventeen

1368
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: games for San Antonio last year before he got shut

1369
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: down with an injury. He had a finger injury I

1370
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: believe was it a thumb I think he had thumb

1371
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: surgery and he had it all season, so like it

1372
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: was like a lingering injury, and then he finally got

1373
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: it checked out and taken care of. So like a

1374
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: healthy Fox. He's got competition there at the guard positions

1375
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: with obviously Castle and Harper now as their draft pick.

1376
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: So people are excited. People think a lot of people

1377
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: will be picking the Spurs to be one of those

1378
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: teams in the lower end of the Western Conference to

1379
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: make the jump up into playoffs slash play in contention,

1380
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: and I, you know, I believe it too. If Wemby

1381
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: is out there for seventy to eighty games, absolutely guys

1382
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: the real deal. And he was just out of the

1383
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 2: Shaolin Temple all summer.

1384
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait to see what comrade Wemby has

1385
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 4: for us in.

1386
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: This next season.

1387
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: Dearon Fox is extension eligible, and when they did the trade,

1388
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 4: I was like, guaranteed they're gonna pay him.

1389
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: And then they jumped up to number two yeah in the.

1390
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 4: Draft and drafted a guy who's a ball handler in

1391
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 4: Dylan Harper. So I still think the Spurs are gonna

1392
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: pay Daron Fox, but I don't know if he's a

1393
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 4: long term guy next to Wemby, because, like I said,

1394
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 4: when the trade happened, he was not my ideal fit

1395
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 4: for a guy next to Wemby, but he was the

1396
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 4: guy who was available and it would have given him

1397
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 4: a chance to make a play and push last season.

1398
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: So I think that's gonna be interesting to.

1399
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 4: See their long term team building view of things with

1400
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: Fox because it's kind of makes sense for him to

1401
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: be good for the team and also to be good

1402
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 4: for himself, so maybe he can start looking at another place,

1403
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: right right, No.

1404
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: Forty three and a half is the win total for

1405
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 2: the Spurs according to bed MGM. So they I mean,

1406
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 2: I think even says they have them sort of in

1407
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: that play in contention because it's like above a lot

1408
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: of these other sort of teams that we talked about,

1409
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: the Suns, the Kings, the Pelicans, obviously the Jazz, so

1410
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: they have them at least a tear up. Even the

1411
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: Grizzlies were only forty and a half. So we'll see

1412
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: what we get from San Antonio. But obviously people are

1413
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: pretty pumped at when we'll be back. Let's move to

1414
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: the East, Trey, you start us off here once again.

1415
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics. Sneaky tough one here.

1416
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Celtics are gonna have their worst

1417
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 4: season since twenty twenty. They went thirty six and thirty six.

1418
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 4: You look at their centers. They've got mish Keita and

1419
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 4: Luca Garza. Those are their centers. They're gonna be losing

1420
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 4: their entire center rotation from last season with porzingis going

1421
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 4: to Atlanta, Cornett going to the Spurs, and Horford likely Warriors,

1422
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 4: who knows where he ends up. So there's a chance

1423
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 4: the Celtics could get their first lottery pick since Aaron Nesmith.

1424
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 4: I think there is even a chance that they could

1425
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,959
Speaker 4: get their first top ten pick since Jason Tatum way

1426
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 4: back when that would require like one injury to Jalen

1427
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 4: Brown and then you're looking at Derek White as the

1428
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 4: number one guy. But I am kind of excited and

1429
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 4: optimistic to see what this Celtics team looks like with

1430
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 4: everybody moving up one to three slots in the packing order,

1431
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 4: like Jalen Brown number one option. Let's see what you got,

1432
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 4: Probably something you've wanted to try out for your entire career.

1433
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 4: Derek White moves up in the pecking order. Peyton Pritchard

1434
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 4: awesome sixth Man of the Year season last year. He's

1435
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 4: got even more responsibility. If they keep Anthony Simons, this

1436
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 4: will be the first time he's really playing games that

1437
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 4: his team is trying to win since he was, you know,

1438
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 4: early in his career with Damian Lillard.

1439
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm even excited to see if Baylor.

1440
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 4: Shireman can do anything playing in the NBA, not just

1441
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 4: a summer league sort of dude. So I will say

1442
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 4: I'm optimistic. I don't think that the Celtics are going

1443
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 4: to finish under five hundred for the first time since

1444
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen to fifteen.

1445
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: You don't.

1446
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: I think they will still be five hundred or better.

1447
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I'm like, would be like almost

1448
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,479
Speaker 2: terrified if I'm the rest of the league of Joe

1449
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: Missoula coaching a team of like basically underdogs at this point,

1450
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: or a team that no one thinks is going to

1451
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: be all that good because of the Jason Tatum injury.

1452
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: He like loves that stuff. He loves it. Think of

1453
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: the quotes he's going to be pulling out from the town,

1454
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: of course, but I mean he's gonna have a lot

1455
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: of town quotes about like rallying like they don't believe

1456
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 2: in us type of thing. And you still have talent

1457
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: guys like Jalen Brown could have a monster year. But

1458
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: on the other side of my mouth, you could be like,

1459
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: maybe you'll see the limitations of Jayleen Brown, not beside

1460
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: of Tatum. I'm fascinated to see it. Sure, maybe maybe not,

1461
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with you. They'll be. They're not going

1462
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: to be like bottom of the barrel here by any means.

1463
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: They're still good, They're still very good.

1464
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do want to see Derek White, Peyton Richard

1465
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 5: bumped up a little bit and see what they can

1466
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 5: perform along with Jaylen Brown, who hopefully is good physically.

1467
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 5: That was a little a little bit worrisome after the

1468
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 5: way he played in the playoffs and all that. Yeah,

1469
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 5: the knee talk, and yeah, when Tatum went out he

1470
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 5: had to step up. He did and he didn't at times.

1471
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 5: So yeah, I do want to see Jayen Brown in

1472
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 5: the one spot. I'm looking forward to.

1473
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: That Brooklyn Nets task.

1474
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 5: Oh maybe the Brooklyn Nets also, just like the Utah

1475
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 5: Jazz projected to be the fifteenth best team in the

1476
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 5: Eastern Conference, we're going all the way to the bottom.

1477
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 5: Here's what's optimistic about the Brooklyn Nets. The Vets can

1478
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 5: carry this team, and those Vets that I'm speaking of,

1479
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 5: our Terrence Man, who can you know, be bumped up

1480
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 5: into a number one role. This is your chance, Terrence Man.

1481
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 5: It's a contract year for him. He's got a long

1482
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 5: term contract, but it's kind of like a contract year

1483
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 5: for him.

1484
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: You're back baby, do your thing.

1485
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 5: Michael Porter Junior and Nick Clason those three guys, this

1486
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 5: is up to that. I mean they can be those

1487
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 5: are their top three. It's up to you how good

1488
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 5: you can be, you know. Michael Port Junior probably like

1489
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 5: you just said, Trey about Jalen Brown wanting to take

1490
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 5: a step up as a number one guy. Michael Port Junior,

1491
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 5: I'm sure wanted to as well. Here he goes. You

1492
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 5: can shoot all you want. Nick Claxon, you got to

1493
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 5: step up in that role. Terrence Man, you got to

1494
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 5: step up in that role. It's also optimistic if you're

1495
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 5: an international fan of this team. They got lots of

1496
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 5: international players. Nolan Truori that they just drafted a nineteen

1497
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 5: year old Frenchman Ben Sarah from Israel and nineteen year

1498
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 5: old Igor Jouman who re pronounced his name. He's got

1499
01:07:54,960 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 5: the umlaut on the oh, so that's cool. He's not nineteen.

1500
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 5: So the bunch a bunch of young international players. And

1501
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 5: you can keep on going with the youngs on that team.

1502
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 5: But they got a lot of guys you think are

1503
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 5: sort of young, but they're not, you know, like and

1504
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 5: Drew Timmy A, Jalen Wilson in almost twenty five years.

1505
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: Couldn't believe when you called parent's man a vet. I'm like,

1506
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 2: how old is he? But he's twenty eight? Yeah, yeah,

1507
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: knocking on twenty nine. In my head, I thought he

1508
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: was like twenty four.

1509
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got old guys that are you don't think

1510
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 5: are that old. But that's what their team is. I

1511
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 5: basically name them. You can try and hope Noah Clowney

1512
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 5: and Keon Johnson are really good. They will have their roles,

1513
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 5: but this team is going.

1514
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: To be bad.

1515
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. You said like maybe the bottom of the Eastern Conference.

1516
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: Do you think they'll be worse than the Washington Wizards?

1517
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: I did do.

1518
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean their lines are basically similar. Nets at

1519
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: twenty one and a half Wizards at twenty and a half.

1520
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: That's where Ben m has them. Yeah, they have the

1521
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: Wizards below them right now.

1522
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: Nore ar at the bottom.

1523
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on the Nets, t K.

1524
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 4: I'm optimistic that they'll have the best odds at the

1525
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 4: number one draft pick.

1526
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 2: There'll be one of the three worst ones in the

1527
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: ate worst.

1528
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 4: I think they're after me, worse than the Wizards, and

1529
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 4: I think the entire point of this NET season is

1530
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 4: to have great lottery odds because next season they don't

1531
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 4: have their pick, they lose it.

1532
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 2: In a swap to the Houston Rockets.

1533
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 4: They did the deal with Michale Bridges before last year

1534
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 4: so that they could have a chance at a high

1535
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 4: draft pick in the twenty five draft. Didn't happen lottery wise,

1536
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 4: so they really need twenty six to work out, which

1537
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 4: means they need to stick. They need to be the

1538
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 4: worst team in the Eastern Conference, more so even than

1539
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 4: the Wizards do, I think at this point. So I'm

1540
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 4: optimistic though that they will be able to pull that off.

1541
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 4: If their main guys are Terrence Man and Michael Porter Junior,

1542
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 4: I would say it is a lock.

1543
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also can't wait for when will it be?

1544
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: I guess late January. Let's call it late January. We're

1545
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: gonna have a debate on no dunks. I'm calling my

1546
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: shot now of who's more deserving of an All Star selection,

1547
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior or Brandon Ingram. I can't wait to

1548
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: have that interesting. Yes, yes, I can't wait. You know,

1549
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: probably on two no Raptors should be better than the Nets.

1550
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 2: But you get my point here. There'll be some number

1551
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: I think from both these guys in a weekend. Maybe

1552
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference, though then again, I don't even know how

1553
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: we're doing the All Star Game. Next year, We're doing

1554
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 2: World Are versus USA, so maybe that completely changes everything.

1555
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 2: But anyway, Michael Porter Junior should put up some numbers

1556
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 2: there in Brooklyn. It's gonna be a bad team. I'm with you, guys,

1557
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: the Knicks, I've got them. I mean, I got two reasons.

1558
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 2: One Knick's optimism around Mike Brown and some bald movement

1559
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: on this team. Last season, Brunson led the NBA in

1560
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 2: on ball percentage and he just shouldered an in crazy

1561
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: amount of workload on the offensive end. He was amazing,

1562
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: but the offense became pretty predictable because it was a

1563
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, go to work and what can you do.

1564
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: Shu had a crazy note that the Knicks have ranked

1565
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: in the bottom seven in ball movement in each of

1566
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: the last five seasons. That lined up with TIBs and

1567
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 2: that's sort of TIBs ball. So now Brown comes in here,

1568
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 2: and at least when he was with Sacramento, I know

1569
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: it's completely different personnel, but they were one of the

1570
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: best teams in the league when it came to bald

1571
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: movement and they were like one of the best offensive

1572
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 2: offensive teams we'd ever seen under Brown that one full season.

1573
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: So I think he's gonna like unlock some things here.

1574
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: And the other reason for optimism if you're a Nicks

1575
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: fan is just like I'm sorry, but it's true. It's like,

1576
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: look at the Eastern Conference, Like it's there for a

1577
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 2: few of these teams to take because the Tatum injury

1578
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 2: to the Celtics, the Haliburton injury to the Pacers, obviously,

1579
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 2: the Damian Lillard situation he's out of Milwaukee now sort

1580
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: of like probably knocks them down even a peg. It's

1581
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: it's the Knicks, it's the Calves, it's and then maybe

1582
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: you're talking yourself into a magic team or something like that,

1583
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: but like it's there, like you should be in the

1584
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: conference finals, knocking on the door of a final. So

1585
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 2: you've got your squad. You added Yabucel, you added Jordan Clarkson.

1586
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: That was good work. And here you go with a

1587
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 2: new coach to see what they can get maybe a

1588
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: little more defensively, and then what they can change things

1589
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 2: on the offense, and then and maybe lighten the offensive

1590
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: load of Brunson in the minutes of some of these

1591
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 2: guys to play the long game more so a lot

1592
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: of optimism. I think it is incumbent on.

1593
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 4: Brunson to want to be a ball mover because he

1594
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 4: hasn't really showed that throughout his career, and I don't

1595
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 4: necessarily know if that's the style he plays. The TIB

1596
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 4: style is perfect for him, isoball pound it get the

1597
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,759
Speaker 4: best shot? Most likely for me, maybe for a teammate.

1598
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 4: I think Towns can fit into a ball movement system

1599
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 4: pretty easily. He's a really good passer, good distributor from

1600
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 4: the high posts, so I wouldn't be surprised if we

1601
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 4: see some SA bonus like actions with him there. With

1602
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 4: Mike Brown bringing over, I heard Zachlose saying on his podcast,

1603
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 4: He's like, if Mike Brown is the sum of all

1604
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 4: of his coaching jobs, this will be perfect for the

1605
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 4: New York Knicks. He learned how to manage egos with

1606
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 4: Lebron James when he was a defensive coach with the Cavs.

1607
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: He had like four games with the Lakers, so you

1608
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: know how it doesn't go good?

1609
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you know an offensive coach after his

1610
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 4: time in Golden State and Sacramento. It's a little bit

1611
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 4: like Dewey Cox thinks about his entire life before he

1612
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 4: takes the stage every single night. I don't know if

1613
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 4: this actually what's gonna happen for Mike Brown, but I

1614
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 4: guess it was time for the Knicks to shake things up.

1615
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if I totally agree with that, but whatever,

1616
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: they're going to be, at the very least a good

1617
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 4: tea and I think a lot of people will favor

1618
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 4: them to.

1619
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: Make the finals out of the Eastern Conference ahead of

1620
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: the Calves, just because we've seen the Calves come up

1621
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: short in the playoffs a couple of seasons, whereas the

1622
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: next generally outperform expectations come the postseason. Yeah, their line

1623
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: is I was going to say shockingly low in my opinion,

1624
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: it's only fifty two and a half. They were a

1625
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: fifty one win team last season, so it's right around

1626
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: the same vicinity there again with the lessened Eastern Conference.

1627
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: I took the Knicks. I remember last year, I took

1628
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: the over and it was even higher. I guess last

1629
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: year because that was the big like, oh Towns is

1630
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 2: in here and obviously got the bridges part of it all.

1631
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: But we'll see they're going to be a good team.

1632
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 2: They should be a very good team in the Eastern Conference.

1633
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: It will only matter once we get.

1634
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 1: To the playoffs.

1635
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so the projection, Yeah, it seems low. They

1636
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 5: won fifty one games last year. It seems like they're

1637
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 5: going to be way better than that.

1638
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: It does.

1639
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 5: Is it as low as a ranking for dewey Cox?

1640
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 5: I like the dewey Cox reference there. What do you

1641
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 5: think dewey Cox is unrotten tomatoes?

1642
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's actually it's got a good reputation.

1643
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 4: I bet it's like seventy five critics, eighty five audience.

1644
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 5: It's seventy four. I mean your bang on, I don't

1645
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 5: have both ready, But anyway, I.

1646
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: Got a seventy four at the top.

1647
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, what card's pretty funny. Anyway, they

1648
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: didn't make like a.

1649
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 4: Music biopick for a decade after that came out, because

1650
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 4: everybody's like, oh, this is what every biopick is.

1651
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: They're stupid.

1652
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: That's great.

1653
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 5: I haven't seen it, so I'm gonna watch it. I'm

1654
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 5: also gonna watch this next team. I am interested to

1655
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 5: see Jalen Brunson off the ball a little bit now,

1656
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 5: Tom Thabodeau got that out of him a little bit

1657
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 5: in the postseason. He also had to take fewer shots

1658
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 5: this last season. He said, all right, yeah, I know,

1659
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 5: here comes Carl. I'm gonna I'm gonna do other things,

1660
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 5: but yeah, can they be a Golden State Warriors. He's

1661
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 5: not Steph, He's not gonna be running off the ball

1662
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 5: like that, but yeah, can they do that? And can

1663
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 5: Mike Brown say, like Steve Kerr did, I mean, We're

1664
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 5: gonna have two units out there? No more of this

1665
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 5: running mckel Bridges into the ground as you just said,

1666
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 5: As you just put out that Michael Bridges is the

1667
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 5: modern day Force Gump in the NBA. Like the guy

1668
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: just keeps running like there's two minutes, twenty minutes for

1669
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 5: him and Josh Hart and Og and everybody. So will

1670
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 5: Mike Brown be able to run two units out there?

1671
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 5: I think so everybody has to buy an Jaylen Brunson

1672
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 5: again going back to like came running off the ball,

1673
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 5: He did show signs of growth last year to some

1674
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 5: degree where he didn't have to shoot as much. After

1675
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 5: being an MVP candidate, he took that off his plate.

1676
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 5: So we will see what Mike Brown can do with

1677
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 5: this team.

1678
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six Ers, Trey It can't be as bad

1679
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 2: as last year. That's the motto, right, right, right.

1680
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 4: They had two guys played more than sixty games last season,

1681
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia seventy six Ers dead. Can you guess either

1682
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 4: of them?

1683
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: Sixty sixty games?

1684
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: Sixty? Yeah? Everybody else on their team missed at least

1685
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 2: twenty two games.

1686
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's gone.

1687
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah there, it's not Ricky Counsel.

1688
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 4: It's Ricky Counsel not signed yet by the seventy six Ers.

1689
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

1690
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, And look, is Joelle Embiid recovering from a

1691
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 2: surgery right now? Yeah? Is Paul George recovering from a

1692
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: surgery right now? Yeah? He is as well.

1693
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 4: But the best time to be a seventy six Ers

1694
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 4: fan is during the offseason because they're not missing any

1695
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 4: games right now.

1696
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 2: VJ edgecomme look good. He did. He looked really good

1697
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: in both summer leagues.

1698
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 4: Looks like a super athlete at least will be one

1699
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 4: of the best athletes on the court every time he's

1700
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 4: on the court.

1701
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna get Jared McCain back after a great twenty

1702
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: three games last season.

1703
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm still a Tyres Maxi fan, even though the responsibilities

1704
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 4: asked of him last year were definitely too much to

1705
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 4: be the number one guy. But those three little guards

1706
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 4: are all fun. I'm not super optimistic, man, I'm like

1707
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 4: a four of ten here, but I love the young

1708
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 4: guys on the seventy six ers. The old guys. Hey,

1709
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 4: what if they're all healthy come playoff time? Imagine that

1710
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 4: anybody ever said that about the seventy six ers. That's

1711
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 4: the only thing you can ever say about this team.

1712
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 4: But right now I like their guards.

1713
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: Okay. Thing to add to that test forty three and

1714
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: a half is their win total so pretty low.

1715
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 5: It's low, but it's seems pretty accurate. I mean, there's

1716
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 5: here's gonna be a lot of again, a lot of

1717
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 5: pressure on Tyres Max is the number one guy. I

1718
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 5: guess if the other guys are hurt. He's started last

1719
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 5: year and you know it wasn't great in that role

1720
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 5: because you know he shot a lot anyway.

1721
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: Besides that, we're.

1722
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: Like, hey, man, can you be Ellen Iverson. He's like,

1723
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: I'll give it a go, and he didn't try decent

1724
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: impersonation for a good stretch. But they just catches up

1725
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 2: to you and then obviously the game plan also catches

1726
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: up to he's like, oh, just take.

1727
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 5: Him out, Okay, Yeah, there's nothing to be said other

1728
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 5: than do you sit Joel Embiid for four months here

1729
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,440
Speaker 5: and play him in February?

1730
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: See go a strategy? Yeah, nothing else is working working, honestly?

1731
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: Do it?

1732
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not?

1733
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: Did anybody read the ESPN profile of Joel Embiid? I

1734
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 2: did hard not the root for this guy. Yeah, after

1735
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: the way things have gone for him and throughout his career,

1736
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: he's like, he is really due for a nice like

1737
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: redemption arc, right if Like, I'm I'm with you on that,

1738
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 2: And now I'm not even a huge Embiid fan, and

1739
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: obviously like Raptors obviously battles with him and got the

1740
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: best him and Marcusol shut his ass down all that,

1741
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: and he's always sick and he had the runs and

1742
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: the poops and stuff like that. But I'm even at

1743
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 2: the point, yeah, I sort of would love to see

1744
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: It'll be cool to see like an Embiid bounce back here.

1745
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 2: He's still got a little left in the tank. And

1746
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: but I was, I mean it was I felt good

1747
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 2: for him in that article after reading it, or yet

1748
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 2: rooting for him, but like there's like a little sadness

1749
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 2: to it as well a lot of time. Yeah, we'll see.

1750
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 5: We so hold on, what was the article mainly about

1751
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,440
Speaker 5: injuries or the ballot movements or no it wasn't, Okay.

1752
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 2: The only thing he didn't touch on was pretty much

1753
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: everything else. Yeah, yeah, from like I mean from career,

1754
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: from like pre career, like you know, making up stories

1755
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: about his childhood just because he was bored to tell people.

1756
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 4: And troll p people early on in his career. The

1757
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 4: way he had differing opinions on his rehab from injuries

1758
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 4: and the different you know, trainers that they brought in.

1759
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think Embid comes off perfectly in

1760
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 4: this profile either, because there are definitely times where he's like, yeah,

1761
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 4: I didn't think rehab was working, so I stopped going.

1762
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: And you're like, well, wait a second, that doesn't make sense.

1763
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 2: Problems on both sides.

1764
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, but at the very least you're like, man,

1765
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 4: this guy has gone through a lot just speaking about

1766
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 4: his body and having people come at him throughout his

1767
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 4: ten years that we've really known about him. So he's

1768
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 4: very vulnerable and I mean super open with the reporter

1769
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 4: at ESPN, So definitely worth a read if you haven't

1770
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: seen it.

1771
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and like they even talk about it

1772
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: in the articles, like he's usually not like this Swiss

1773
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: any sort of media anymore. He's really like shut that out,

1774
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: doesn't trust people easily.

1775
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: You know.

1776
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: It feels like he's been back stout and stuff like that.

1777
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, go recommend reading it. The Toronto Raptors task

1778
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: look at this. You got the Raptors here, Sell me, baby.

1779
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 5: They have many good basketball players.

1780
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: That's it. They're gonna be good. Will they be good?

1781
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: Will they play? They have so many All Stars, they

1782
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: have Scottie Barnes.

1783
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: So many All Stars.

1784
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes, and.

1785
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, Scottie Barnes is not even in his prime. Brandon

1786
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 5: Ingram he can drop a hundred on you, he literally could.

1787
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 5: Those are two ridiculously great offensive players to go along

1788
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 5: with Rgie Barret who had a really good season. And

1789
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 5: Emmanuel Quickly if we will see him play again. That's

1790
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 5: that's the worrisome part. Obviously Quickly is healthy. He should

1791
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 5: be playing. But that's the scary part. I say, I

1792
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 5: say it very slowly coming out of my mouth, not

1793
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 5: all that excited to say they have many good basketball players,

1794
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 5: because they do. I just mentioned four really good ones.

1795
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 5: But will they play? It's unfortunate, but that's what it

1796
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 5: comes down to. Emmanuel Quickly even like there is a

1797
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 5: lot of pressure on him, sort of being the lead

1798
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 5: ball guard. You know, first game last year he got injured.

1799
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 5: It was Daris Garland who went under him, and he

1800
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 5: basically didn't play for the calendar year of twenty twenty four,

1801
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 5: he didn't play. It it was twenty twenty four was

1802
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 5: shot for him. So if Quickly can't play, you're getting

1803
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 5: Jamal shed who's fun, Elijah Martin probably some of that.

1804
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 2: So all those defensive dogs we got.

1805
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 5: They did a great in summer league. They got, they fought,

1806
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 5: they played hard defensively. But it's up to Barnes and

1807
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 5: Ingram and the chemistry up top.

1808
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know. I'm not gonna

1809
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1810
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 5: Gonna pretend that they're gonna win forty five games.

1811
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: Even right now.

1812
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 5: I could I could on a good day, a good

1813
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 5: August day. I think that it's a summer thing. Will

1814
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 5: they will they play? As the question, that's it. I mean,

1815
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 5: here's something else to be optimistic about They've got the

1816
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 5: best names in the NBA, hands down.

1817
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: Jacoby Walter, Sandro Mamu, kellsh Vili, what a name, Chucky Hepburn, no.

1818
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 5: Relation to Audrey James in Battle, Colin double l, Murray

1819
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 5: boyles a j I Am the Awesome, Jamal she Shed,

1820
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 5: Jonathan Mobo, Garrett Temple, Grady Dick oh Chaiyabaji, David the Body,

1821
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 5: roddy oh Ras Shamshe another two way guy.

1822
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,839
Speaker 2: Damn goodness sacked.

1823
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 5: Names wise, they are stacked. That's it. I mean, I

1824
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 5: don't it's one of those years it's uh, prove it

1825
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 5: play basketball.

1826
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. And a lot of these guys are

1827
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: paid handsomely, so you definitely want them to play basketball

1828
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: for sure at the positions. Obviously keeping Perdol open some eyes.

1829
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 2: But they have him as their sort of like rock

1830
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 2: I guess at the center. He's nothing flashy, but he

1831
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: is a solid player. It makes sense, you know. They've

1832
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: added all these defensive minded guys to sort of like

1833
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: come in behind them hopefully the offensive talent in Ingram

1834
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: and Barnes and Quickly and r J. Still their line

1835
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 2: is thirty four and a half, so I mean you

1836
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: saying forty five is like, yeah, that would be an

1837
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: incredibly according to obviously the odds makers. But is it

1838
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: a bounce back here for the Tronto Raptors. That's where

1839
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,839
Speaker 2: we're at because it's been some down years here. We'll see.

1840
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 2: I had no faith in the Raptors last awesome season

1841
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 2: heading into that year. I have a little bit more

1842
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: now and I do, like I jokingly said, like the

1843
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 2: brandon Ingram he he is a completely forgotten player in

1844
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: this league because we play at all. When he got

1845
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: traded to them and he was in sort of the

1846
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: you know, New Orleans there and they had all their issues.

1847
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: He is really good and I'd be really cool to

1848
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: remind people of how much of a bucket he is.

1849
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: And if he can slop beside Barnes, they can make

1850
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: that work. So I have more optimism than I did

1851
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 2: last year. But forty wins would be a huge, huge,

1852
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: successful season in my eyes.

1853
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: But with all that talent, it shouldn't be crazy and.

1854
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: Fourth best, yeah is their whole team right right?

1855
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.

1856
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 5: The hope was Scotty was going to be a number

1857
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 5: two at the worst. You know, when he won Brookie

1858
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 5: the year he was he was grown.

1859
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: Y Barnes is good and it's still getting better. And

1860
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying like, oh yeah, yeah, he can't. He

1861
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: can't be a winning player on a good team. No,

1862
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 2: by no means. But I think trades right a little bit.

1863
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 2: Some of these guys, the quickly Is and the Barretts

1864
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: and and the ingram Is the TVD Like, yeah, you

1865
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 2: say they're really great players, but they on most teams

1866
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: will be the third fourth player. That's just the truth.

1867
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: And I also don't know what this team is. I

1868
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: don't know what the identity of this team is. And

1869
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 2: they're leaning into these defensive minded guys. That's fine, but

1870
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: then they need to score? Do you need to score?

1871
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: In this we'll Central Division. I'm gonna go here, and

1872
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: we're actually flipping two teams alphabetical wise because I want

1873
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: Trey to have the Bulls. So I'll start with the

1874
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers, a lot of optimism, similar to the Knicks.

1875
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: It's the Eastern Conference. Is the calves to lose. They

1876
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: were really good last year. They come in, you know,

1877
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: with a similar squad here. They added Lonzo Ball and

1878
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 2: Larry Nance Junior. They sort of like are trying to

1879
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: shore up their defense. I saw Schumann writ about the

1880
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 2: Calves needing to go from like a top ten defense,

1881
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 2: like a top five defense, to be considered a real

1882
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: legit title contender. So I'm just excited to see how

1883
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: they deal with the pressure now that everybody thinks that

1884
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: they're just going to maybe like walk to the Eastern

1885
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 2: Conference final and maybe battle a Knicks team or a

1886
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 2: Magic team or something like that and go to a finals.

1887
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 2: But the truth is, no one is gonna care if

1888
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: the Calves rip off another fifteen and no start to

1889
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: start the season, Like that'd be cool, but no one

1890
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: will care because it's all gonna be one of these

1891
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 2: teams like show us come playoff time. So don't be

1892
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: amazing in uh October, November, don't be lights out there,

1893
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: be amazing come like March, April, May and then until

1894
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 2: hopefully June for these Cavs fans. But I'm excited, like

1895
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: they're still damn good. And if Evan Mobley levels up,

1896
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 2: which speaks to like we talked about, is Donovan Mitchell

1897
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: maybe almost is that guy a better two? Could mobiley

1898
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: blossom into the one or they just go hand in

1899
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: hand one A one B. They're gonna be good. They're

1900
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: gonna win a lot of games, but it will just

1901
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: be playoff time. Yep. That's it to where we are

1902
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: with this team. It wasn't wasn't a lot different than

1903
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: when Mitchell was with the Utah Jazz for a couple

1904
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 2: of years and we were like, well, they're gonna be

1905
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: a great regular season team, show us come playoff time.

1906
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: Same thing with Mitchell here on the calves. Yeah, I

1907
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: think that's exactly right.

1908
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 4: Last year, even they started the season what they want

1909
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 4: their first fifteen basketball games. The Utah Jazz were ripping

1910
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 4: off eighteen nineteen twenty game win streaks regularly during the

1911
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell Rudy Gobert era, and once it got three

1912
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 4: or four years in with the Jazz, we were kind

1913
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 4: of like, great, you're gonna win fifty five to sixty

1914
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 4: games in the Western Conference and we'll see what happens

1915
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. That's gonna be the Cavs this year.

1916
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 4: They could win their first twenty five games to start

1917
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 4: this season. Everybody's gonna be all right, let's see what

1918
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 4: you do in the playoffs. You've got to win more

1919
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 4: than one series, but you.

1920
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 2: Know, let's they got to have a super high. I

1921
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 2: would assume over under win total it is fifty fifty

1922
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 2: five and a half. Oh yeah, okay, so yeah, maybe

1923
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: you feel confident about that one.

1924
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1925
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 5: It's funny because we mentioned the injuries to Boston and Indiana.

1926
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 5: This Calves team should be a team that wins the

1927
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 5: East again. It should be no, it should be that team.

1928
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 5: It's all about the playoffs and what Garland and MOBILEI

1929
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 5: you can do because those were the guys who were

1930
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 5: banged up. They couldn't step up against the Pacers.

1931
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls Trey.

1932
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 4: Kirby, Here's what I told everybody at Summer League. The

1933
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 4: Bulls have two Jianises. They've got the American Gianis and

1934
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 4: Mantus Bozzellis because I remember you guys telling me some

1935
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 4: kind of story of his stats and getting drafted like

1936
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 4: in the teens and the stats he was putting up.

1937
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 4: The only other guy who had had those kind of

1938
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 4: things in his first two years was janis On Tatakumpo.

1939
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 4: So he's the American Gianis, so very skinny. They also

1940
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 4: drafted the French Giannis and Noah, so you know, the

1941
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 4: best team in the division has one Gianis. The Bulls

1942
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 4: have two realistically, though, I'm just hoping for a little

1943
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 4: bit of a step from Mantes Boozellis going into his

1944
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 4: second season year three should be the leap but post

1945
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 4: All Star last year, which kind of lines up to

1946
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 4: when Zach Lavine was traded to the Sacramento Kings and

1947
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 4: Bozellis got a lot more time. He started playing a

1948
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 4: bunch of twenty seven games, twenty seven minutes per game,

1949
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 4: and in those minutes thirteen points per game, five rebounds,

1950
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 4: a couple assists, and one block per game while shooting

1951
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 4: forty seven from the field thirty six from three. I

1952
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 4: would like to see some more self creation from Mantes

1953
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 4: Buzzellis getting to the basket with the ball in his hands.

1954
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 4: He does seem to have some savvy as a scorer,

1955
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 4: good athleticism, really good length. He's got to make his

1956
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 4: three pointers like he did last season. There was that

1957
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 4: game where he was like four to four from three

1958
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 4: in one game, went ten to ten from the field.

1959
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 4: Next game, oh for four from three. You know, he

1960
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 4: found his way to thirty six percent by being a

1961
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 4: little bit inconsistent. So the consistency would be huge.

1962
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: But I love that this guy is like buddies with

1963
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,879
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, the quarterback from the Bears.

1964
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 4: He was a Chicago guy, so he likes being a ball.

1965
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 4: I think that's fun to watch. They're gonna stink this team,

1966
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 4: but I think they'll be fun to watch again. That's

1967
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 4: how they were last year, at least in the second

1968
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 4: half of the year, playing wicked fast and running up

1969
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 4: and down the court, chucking threes and losing. But buzzells

1970
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 4: doing dunks, blocking shots.

1971
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: Very cool.

1972
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll turn into Jannisteo Rufo, but

1973
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 4: I would be happy if he turns into andre Kirolinka,

1974
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:51,520
Speaker 4: and I think that's more reasonable.

1975
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: It would be great. Loved him, I love it. Let's

1976
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 2: keep moving with some pace here tests Detroit Pistons, you're

1977
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 2: up next.

1978
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 5: Well, obviously they had a great year, and the New

1979
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 5: York Necks have in some fricking playoff games in Detroit.

1980
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 5: That's fantastic. But besides that, I think they're ready for

1981
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 5: their second start. I think they are the Houston Rockets

1982
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 5: East in that they can make a trade if a

1983
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 5: superstar becomes available to put around Kate Cunningham.

1984
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: Because they've got lots of depth. They're kind of like

1985
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets.

1986
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 5: And they have just a lot of good players that

1987
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 5: they could package together. They also have the contracts, really

1988
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:32,480
Speaker 5: great contracts besides Kate on their team getting the MAX deservedly.

1989
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 5: So their next big contract is Tobias Harris and that

1990
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 5: comes off the books this coming year. And then you've

1991
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 5: got a bunch of guys you can package together. As

1992
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 5: I mentioned Jay and Ivy coming back hopefully he's great,

1993
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 5: Jalen Duran, Asar Thompson really is a Rockets, east Ron Holland,

1994
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 5: carrisl Vert, Duncan Robinson, they just signed Isaiah Stewart. Plus

1995
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 5: that Tobias Harris, Hobias, that Tobias Harris deal, that's a

1996
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 5: good number Tobias Harris number that you can package in.

1997
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 5: I think it's twenty four million. So the numbers make sense,

1998
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 5: the talent makes sense. Kate kind of hand makes sense

1999
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 5: as your lead guard. He showed he's able to do that.

2000
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 5: So it's exciting times, I think, roster wise and just

2001
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 5: basketball wise in that arena. But they need, they do

2002
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 5: need it a second guy to take some of that

2003
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 5: burden off of Kate Cunningham because they went and got

2004
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 5: the shooter and Duncan Robinson. But they need they need

2005
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 5: a ball handler. They need one more and now then

2006
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,799
Speaker 5: a shrewter Gone. I did a lot in the postseason

2007
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 5: handling the ball, so that was important to them, So

2008
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 5: they need another one of those.

2009
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,839
Speaker 2: What will be considered a good season for the Detroit

2010
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 2: Pistons top four, Top four, yeah, or maybe even just

2011
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: a playoff win, because I guess they made it last

2012
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 2: year forty four wins, lose to the Knicks. Hell of

2013
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 2: a series. I mean every game.

2014
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: Felt like super close, super close. Yeah.

2015
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so top four or to win obviously a first

2016
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: round series, no matter where they're ranked probably is the goal.

2017
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Get back in and obviously continue to build off this

2018
01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 2: and just get reps for Kate and all these young

2019
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: guys and sar Thompson, Ron holland second, all these guys

2020
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 2: to like get more opportunity. I think it's a big

2021
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 2: season for Ivy.

2022
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 4: He needs to be their second ball him or he

2023
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 4: went out with an injury, so he didn't really get

2024
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 4: to stay on the court with Kad Cunningham as he

2025
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 4: had a better season the year prior with Kaid Cunningham

2026
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 4: who went down with an injury, so they haven't gotten

2027
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 4: there to lead ball handlers a lot of court time together,

2028
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 4: So him staying healthy and looking good I think would

2029
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 4: be a big time for Detroit.

2030
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a great I think it's a good story

2031
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 5: for Jade and Ivy because it looked like it could

2032
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 5: be a bad injury with Cole Anthony undercut him. It

2033
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 5: looked like it could be gruesome. But he'll be back.

2034
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 5: I think he'll be entirely healthy. But we haven't seen

2035
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 5: him in a while. We haven't seen him since the

2036
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 5: Cosmopolitan Pool in Las Vegas. We saw him. He was

2037
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 5: hanging out in the pool, just chilling. Last NBA player

2038
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 5: we saw a pool, I think, and that was that

2039
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 5: years ago.

2040
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,759
Speaker 2: I got the Indiana Pacers. I am excited to see

2041
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 2: the most improved player race between Andrew Nemhardt and Benedict Mathron,

2042
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 2: two guys on the same team. They have some of

2043
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 2: the best odds according to the odds makers. I think

2044
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 2: it's Denny Avdia is the favorite for MIP and then

2045
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 2: Nemhard right there with of the a plus nine hundred,

2046
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 2: and then it's like Mathron next on the list at

2047
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: plus sixteen hundred. But but with Halliburton's injury, both these guys

2048
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 2: are going to take on a much larger role. They're

2049
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 2: going to be expected to and I think they both

2050
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 2: can and I'm excited to see them try. Nemhard Man

2051
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 2: he should really increase his scoring and his playmaking. Well,

2052
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 2: we just see playoff Nemhard in the regular season in

2053
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 2: terms of his stats. I think a realistic goal for

2054
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 2: Nemhard in a regular season, hey Man, be Derek White,

2055
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 2: turn into Derek White when we're looking at stats and

2056
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 2: obviously contributions, and really do what you have done in

2057
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: postseasons for the last two runs for Indiana. He's a

2058
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 2: guy though is now like people love him, I love him,

2059
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 2: and he's a Canadian to boot. But now he's getting

2060
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 2: paid twenty million dollars a year, right, so he's like

2061
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 2: now under contracts, So now like there's there's just a

2062
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 2: lot more to expect from a player like that. So

2063
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 2: you got to back it up. Matthon on the other hand,

2064
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: playing for this, you know, obviously sort of extension and

2065
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,759
Speaker 2: he's gonna get more uper So those two guys, I'm excited.

2066
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a I don't know where to

2067
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 2: put the pacers with the Halliburton injury, I don't know

2068
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 2: where to slot them in the Eastern Conference. I don't

2069
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: think they're terrible. I think they have so many good

2070
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: guys still, and like we just talked about some of

2071
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: these guards to pick up the slack. I don't see

2072
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 2: a conference finals finals run in them without Aliburton. But

2073
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 2: could they still be a pesky team to play in

2074
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 2: the RAIDLO season? Yeah? Yeah, for sure. Was the Oakham

2075
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 2: as your leader. So those guys battling for MIP, I

2076
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 2: think they'll be in the race, at least one of

2077
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: them will be. Yeah, probably Jay Huff will be in

2078
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 2: the race as well too. Yeah.

2079
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 4: Well, I mean he's got these crazy reverse dunks that

2080
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 4: he's doing over in Spain or something like that.

2081
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 2: We're seeing Spain.

2082
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 4: Pick up highlights for Jay Huff Odd. But they exist

2083
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 4: out there. They lost two starters. I think the Pacers

2084
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 4: are probably a play in team. I think that'd be

2085
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 4: good for them this year. We'll see what Siakam can

2086
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 4: do as the undisputed number one guy. When he was

2087
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 4: the number one guy in Toronto, they were like a

2088
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 4: playing team.

2089
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Milwaukee Bucks Tray, they got Yannis. He's still there.

2090
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 2: Simple nine win pace when he played last season. Damian

2091
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 2: Lildd was still around then.

2092
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 4: But seven straight seasons, Giannis has finished in the top

2093
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 4: four in MVP voting and during those seven seasons, forty

2094
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 4: six wins minimum for the Milwaukee Bucks. We got a

2095
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 4: week at Eastern Conference. They brought in Miles Turner, so

2096
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 4: at the very least, their defense I think will be

2097
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 4: pretty solid. But they are in the mix for the

2098
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 4: worst guard rotation in the league. We're talking about Kevin

2099
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 4: Porter junior, Cole Anthony and Ryan Rollins at the one,

2100
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 4: Gary Trent junior, AJ Green, and Gary Harris at the two.

2101
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 4: That is zero real starters in the perimeter for the

2102
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 4: Milwaukee Bucks. But I still think it's reasonable that they

2103
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 4: make a run at the top six in the Eastern Conference,

2104
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 4: and I think depending on how injuries go for some

2105
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 4: of the teams ahead of them, it wouldn't be out

2106
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 4: of the realm of possibility that they are a top

2107
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 4: four team in the Eastern Conference.

2108
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 2: Yannis is that good. I love watching the guy play,

2109
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 2: and you know he's going to have a chip on

2110
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: his shoulder. Everybody writing them off this season. He didn't

2111
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 2: right back. Hey, he could have a sneaky, like really

2112
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 2: strong narrative to another MVP win. If like what you're saying,

2113
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: he carries the box with this sort of like hotchpot

2114
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 2: of the team. Now they got Turners, that helps, but like, yeah,

2115
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 2: he takes them to a number that's like whoa, they

2116
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 2: got to fifty five wins in Milwaukee. But like he's

2117
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,719
Speaker 2: always in play for MVP as it is, But maybe

2118
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 2: that really helps his case. I like that good reason

2119
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 2: to be optimistic. He's still there to be traded and

2120
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: they're trying everything they can do to still put some

2121
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 2: talent around him. And the Turner part the big part.

2122
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned the guards. It's hilarious when you go

2123
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 5: through it. And that Vasa Micic also left. He went

2124
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 5: and played in Europe. I think he would have added

2125
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 5: to the highlights on Janis's MVP real basically, yeah, the

2126
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 5: guy loves passing. It's got so much, but he went

2127
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 5: to go make some money elsewhere, because yeah, he he

2128
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 5: just would have helped with the passing, That's what he

2129
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 5: would have been. But they lack a guard and so

2130
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 5: is Ji can be happy at the fact that Miles

2131
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 5: Turner takes a lot of pressure off defensively, that's great,

2132
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 5: that is great for him, but is he gonna be

2133
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 5: happy with the guard play. What chance does this team

2134
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 5: have in the postseason.

2135
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: It feels like.

2136
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 4: They've lost in the first round for the past two seasons,

2137
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 4: So what's the difference. I think making it to the

2138
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 4: postseason would be good for the Bucks, But be honest,

2139
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 4: has got to be in the locker room. Look at me,

2140
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 4: I'm the point guard. Now he is, He's going to

2141
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 4: handle the ball. His numbers are going to go up

2142
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 4: somehow this season.

2143
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they the Milwaukee Bucks more than any other team.

2144
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 2: Feel like, the first twenty five to thirty games, let's

2145
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 2: call it feels so much more important than a lot

2146
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 2: of other teams. Like, like, if it starts badly and

2147
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 2: they are really bad because of maybe roster construction, Like

2148
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 2: it's not like the Yannis get me out of here,

2149
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 2: rumors are going to quiet, Like they're just gonna be circling.

2150
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you don't think I just can't imagine again

2151
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 5: his team being way below five.

2152
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 2: I know, I just can't. You're You're probably right, probably right,

2153
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 2: all right to the Southeast Division, the Atlanta Hawks, Coca ah, right.

2154
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: There's so many positives. Oh yeah, Tree Young and Chris Apps.

2155
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 5: Porzingis picking Pops baby a great defensive team built around

2156
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 5: Trey Young, guys with long arms, and Dyson Daniel Zacharissa Shane,

2157
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:14,440
Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson and Christ Apps. A secondary ball handler beside

2158
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 5: Trey Young and Jalen Johnson is just.

2159
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 1: So good at that.

2160
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 5: Let's go keep going down the ball handler list. Nikaile

2161
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 5: Alexander Walker. Now Vit Crachie call him the fourth ball handler.

2162
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 5: I mean they have so many. Kobe Buffkin could be

2163
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 5: the fifth ball handler. Remember him, hopefully he plays. Did

2164
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 5: I mention the arms? They've got more arms defensively, Mo

2165
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 5: Gay and Yaka kong Wu's got some arms. Luke Kennard's

2166
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 5: gonna come off shooting threes off the bench. This team

2167
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 5: is deep. They've got a really deep roster that can

2168
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 5: play you different ways. Quinn Snyer can throw him out

2169
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 5: at you different different types of lineups and the future.

2170
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 5: The twenty sixth draft day pick that they got from

2171
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 5: the Pelicans in that deal was pretty pretty sweet. It

2172
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 5: could be a really really good picks. So they're just

2173
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 5: lined up perfectly. They just lined up really really well.

2174
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 5: It's a great offseason obviously.

2175
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Rockets are the team that did more

2176
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 2: than any other team, to help their title chances. In

2177
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: twenty six, the Hawks did more than any other team

2178
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 2: to help their chances to just be a playoff team

2179
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 2: and maybe one of the elite teams or top teams

2180
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference. They had an awesome offseason to.

2181
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 5: Move just that mediocrity right which they've been a part

2182
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 5: of for exactly.

2183
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 2: They are really hoping that they've done the work here

2184
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 2: now to get out of the damn play in conversation

2185
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 2: and that mediocre five hundred ball, and on paper it

2186
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 2: looks like they maybe have, especially in this Eastern Conference.

2187
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,560
Speaker 2: They just like diminish this year. Yeah, any thoughts on Atlanta.

2188
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 4: More people asked me about the Hawks this summer than

2189
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 4: probably the past five years. That's how excited people are

2190
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 4: to see a Hawks team built around Trey Young. That

2191
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 4: makes the most sense of any team that's been built

2192
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 4: around Trey Young.

2193
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Defense, shooting, youth.

2194
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 4: Size and length all around Trey Young, which is exactly

2195
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 4: what you need to put around them. So if the

2196
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 4: Hawks somehow win forty three to thirty eight games this season,

2197
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be furious. They got to get out of

2198
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 4: the five hundred range. Yeah, we got to get to

2199
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 4: forty five minimum.

2200
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 2: And honestly, like, truthfully, if you are in that range again,

2201
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 2: and let's say you're fairly healthy for the most part, like,

2202
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 2: then maybe it is see you later, Trey Young, and

2203
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: maybe you pivot from him, right because you've you've done

2204
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 2: the right things, You've made the right moves here, You've

2205
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 2: got yourself out of some holes that you got yourself

2206
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 2: into with the John Dy Murray and all that you've done. Great,

2207
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 2: this new front office is killing it. They're killing it,

2208
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 2: They're crushing it. So now it's Tray's like turn here

2209
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 2: to really lead this team to at least we are

2210
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: not even saying lead them to the conference finals or five.

2211
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 2: We were saying, just lead them to out of the

2212
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 2: damn play in yea be a forty six win team. Yeah,

2213
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 2: team they should be. They should be.

2214
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the Trey Young arc is improving. And we

2215
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 5: went through this obviously bowing in Madskons Square Garden to

2216
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 5: a team that was tumultuous, not looking good as straight

2217
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 5: Young going to be leaving to potentially here we go

2218
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 5: a really good team. There's just really good players and

2219
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 5: the fact is on paper in the future they haven't

2220
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 5: For the future, they haven't said, oh, Kristaps Porzingis is

2221
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 5: the guy. He is an expiring deal after this coming year,

2222
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 5: because that may not go well. So they haven't decided

2223
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 5: that this is the team. They can pivot. Anzie Sale

2224
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 5: has done a good job of that, so there's that part.

2225
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 5: But euro Basket's gonna be fun. Also, Kristaps Porzeni is

2226
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 5: gonna be there.

2227
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: Zachary Resha has been working on the muscles. He's going

2228
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 1: to be looking good.

2229
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 5: Porzingis is going to be playing against beat Crachy, so

2230
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 5: maybe they'll get some chemistry going on there. This team

2231
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 5: is good, This team is fun.

2232
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 2: Forty six and a half is there over under win

2233
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 2: total prediction? Yeah, people even Vegas is like, oh yeah,

2234
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 2: we believe in Hawks. I know, I know, I can't

2235
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 2: confidently pick that one. That's a tough one. It will

2236
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 2: not be a lock. All right. To the Charlotte Hornets

2237
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 2: we go. I'm optimistic about their backcourt hopefully playing together.

2238
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I say, backcourt, where do you put Brandon Miller?

2239
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: Is he a two? Is he a three? You get

2240
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,839
Speaker 2: my point here, LaMelo Ball and Brandon Miller just playing

2241
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 2: together would be a start. They've barely played and last year.

2242
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 2: This team did improve defensively under Charles Lee, so that

2243
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 2: was good his first year as a head coach, but

2244
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 2: the offense was an absolute mess, especially when LaMelo was

2245
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 2: out and then obviously no Miller there for a good

2246
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,759
Speaker 2: chunk of it. They played like four hundred and fifty

2247
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 2: total minutes together over only twenty games, and in fact,

2248
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 2: I think Schumann had the stat They've played only eight

2249
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: hundred minutes together Ball and Miller over two seasons where

2250
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 2: Miller's been lead Like, it's we don't even know, so

2251
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 2: let's just get them out there together. I think they've

2252
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 2: done a pretty good job this offseason. I like Konk

2253
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 2: Nipple there at the number four pick guys a summer

2254
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,640
Speaker 2: league champ, and this team is they brought in. They

2255
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: did bring in some vets. I really think to like

2256
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 2: try and like teach some of these guys like the

2257
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 2: game and how to win. Be professional. Maybe a little

2258
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 2: bit more like I'm talking like Dinwittie and Pat Connaton

2259
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 2: and plum Lee. I guess they got a plumb dog

2260
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 2: Colin Sexton, if you cansider him a vet. So that's

2261
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 2: the thinking here. Those guys are not stars, but to

2262
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 2: help around the fringes and to help in the locker room.

2263
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 2: And they need to start building on this. But it

2264
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 2: just starts with lamellow ball playing and Brandon Miller playing

2265
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: because they're both really good, talented players. Love to see

2266
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 2: them together. Yeah, so that's what the hope. I mean.

2267
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 4: I'm still a Lamello fan, But last year was a

2268
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 4: disgusting season from this guy. Even though he was putting

2269
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 4: up monster stats, he was not playing winning basketball at all.

2270
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 4: He was playing pick up basketball in the NBA. He's

2271
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 4: taken thirty footers with one foot. Fun to watch if

2272
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 4: you're a player, but if you're a coach, you're probably

2273
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 4: what are you doing? Man? So stay on the court

2274
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 4: and play real basketball, I would say as a goal

2275
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 4: for the Hornets this season.

2276
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 2: Did you see his new tat is it real hot Cheetoes? Oh?

2277
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 2: Well I saw, Yeah, I guess he did have the

2278
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 2: hot Cheetos toes. If that's real. He's got an entire

2279
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 2: leg sleeve. Oh well, that's like crazy amount of detail.

2280
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 5: Oh it's probably so, I assume part's a real. Maybe,

2281
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:58,799
Speaker 5: but he's got to also go to Cheetos.

2282
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 2: I don't know if that part's real. It's like going

2283
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 2: around that his foot is like flaming on the ends,

2284
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,560
Speaker 2: like his toes. It's all tatted up because it's a

2285
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 2: big Cheeto guy. I guess I assumed it was. He's

2286
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 2: got some crazy tattoos, so why not.

2287
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wow, epic tattoo session with five artists.

2288
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the leg sleeve.

2289
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 5: Is not okay, okay, all right, you're getting into it.

2290
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 5: Five artists working on it at the same time.

2291
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 2: Too many, there's a lot of many. I think, yeah,

2292
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 2: it was.

2293
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,759
Speaker 5: You know, it's kind of downtime at times for sports.

2294
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 5: So what happened to go on my TV was a

2295
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 5: random mixed Marshall mixed martial art.

2296
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 1: Fight from Poland.

2297
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 5: I think where their tattoos are just pure AI just playing.

2298
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 5: We're just fighting with these random like you mentioned Cheetos,

2299
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 5: just just any random sponsorship.

2300
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: They just put them on them.

2301
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, you're saying the broadcast, Yeah put

2302
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 2: like is CGI ing on tattoos onto the fight.

2303
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but this is this ain't the UFC. This

2304
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 5: is just anyway. So I think maybe maybe it happens

2305
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 5: in basketball at some point.

2306
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well it's getting tattooed.

2307
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 5: He does well, hopefully he really takes care of his

2308
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 5: ankles this year, because that's the important thing.

2309
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 1: I thought, those ankle braces.

2310
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 2: Want some ankle braces.

2311
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 5: The real ones didn't work. Real ankle braces didn't work.

2312
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 2: So here we go, Miami Heat tray, the Heat, come on,

2313
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 2: let's go. Zach Low thinks he'll be good.

2314
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 4: That's my reason for optimism, because I can't find one

2315
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 4: on my own. I was shocked to hear both Zach

2316
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 4: and Michael Pino. We're pretty bullish on the Miami Heat.

2317
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 4: And I think it's the Mary J.

2318
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 2: Blige effect. No more drama.

2319
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler is gone, and I think the Heat are

2320
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 4: hoping that his trade request and you know, I guess

2321
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 4: it was contract request at the beginning of the season.

2322
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 4: Having that not be a factor this year, the Heater

2323
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 4: hoping that they have better continuity. I do think Powell

2324
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 4: is a great get for them. They need somebody who

2325
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 4: gets downhill. Norm does that while also giving you the

2326
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 4: forty percent shooting that you lost when Duncan Robinson went

2327
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 4: to the Piston.

2328
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 2: So I look at the.

2329
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 4: Heat, I see a lot of good players, like a

2330
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 4: lot of guys that would be in rotations for other teams.

2331
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 4: But they don't really have the ceiling. Razor Tyler Hero

2332
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 4: had an All Star season last year. He was really good.

2333
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 4: Bam had a bad season, but he's still a solid player.

2334
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 4: I just don't necessarily know how high they can lift

2335
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 4: a team, even in an Eastern conference that's not going

2336
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,679
Speaker 4: to be crazy competitive. So I think the Heat needs

2337
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 4: some good seasons from Khalil Ware, Jaime Hakaz, and Nikola

2338
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 4: Jovich to reach their peak, and even their peak, I'm

2339
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 4: like forty four wins, I'm not very enthusiastic about this

2340
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 4: Miami Heat team. They just seem like they are waiting

2341
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 4: for the next big name to come around, because they

2342
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 4: still do need a big name.

2343
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 2: But if Zach is on board, there must be something

2344
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 2: there that's true. I mean, Zach must be hitting the

2345
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 2: over then thirty seven and a half, Okay, see, I

2346
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 2: would say the over.

2347
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 4: Probably, yeah, but if it was forty two and a half,

2348
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 4: I would probably take the under.

2349
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2350
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a little dicey there. Yeah, I think

2351
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 2: you're right. I think it's this idea of like back

2352
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 2: to heat culture. Baby Jimmy somehow was all about heat

2353
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 2: culture and then he sort of ruined it. Yeah, he

2354
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 2: went against it. So now we go back to business,

2355
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 2: and you're still well coached, and you do have some

2356
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 2: pieces there and maybe some growth from some of these

2357
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 2: guys that we've seen for a couple of years.

2358
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's I think it's easy to be

2359
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 5: optimistic because this team, even though they didn't have Jimmy

2360
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 5: Butler and that culture was gone, they were still a

2361
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 5: top ten defense. So that part's not going anything right.

2362
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 5: And then you add Norman Powell. The guy's a bucket.

2363
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 5: Hopefully he stays healthy this entire year, but coming off

2364
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 5: his best season, how can you not be excited about that?

2365
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:44,719
Speaker 5: Plus the other up offensive options and Khalilware has to grow.

2366
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 5: This is year two for him, so their offense should

2367
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 5: be better and their defense is gonna be good. So well, yeah,

2368
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 5: thirty seven half seams lull low for this team.

2369
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 2: Do you think the Heat will be better than the

2370
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawks? Do you think they'll be better than the

2371
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 2: Orlando Magic, who we'll get to in a second. It'll

2372
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 2: be better than the Milwaukee Bucks or the Philadelphia seventy

2373
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 2: six ers. Maybe are the Pacers?

2374
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, those are some questionable teams.

2375
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 5: I would say the first tea you started with uh

2376
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 5: the first of the first Hawks Hawks.

2377
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it now.

2378
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 2: But I go Hawks and actually bring these teams up,

2379
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 2: like I throw the pistons in there. It's like on

2380
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 2: some of those, I'm like, I almost go fifty to

2381
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 2: fifty on a lot of those. That's why the heater

2382
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 2: tough to figure out. I'm like, I could see it

2383
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:30,640
Speaker 2: then a lot of these teams I'm mentioning, but I

2384
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 2: could also see them winning thirty eight games and being

2385
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 2: below most of these teams. So yeah, we'll see. We'll

2386
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 2: see what Spolster gets out of that squad.

2387
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 3: There.

2388
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 2: The Orlando Magic tasks.

2389
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,839
Speaker 5: You gotta be excited because they brought in a ball handler.

2390
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 5: Everyone has been asking waiting for a ball handler beside

2391
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 5: Paula Banco and Franz Wagner and Jalen Suggs. Who's that's

2392
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 5: not his forte. They got one in Desmond Bine. Obviously,

2393
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 5: he's a great three point shooter. But I think what

2394
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 5: goes under the radar is the guy I can pass,

2395
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 5: averaging five is per game the last two seasons. I

2396
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 5: think he can be a perfect down ball creator. When

2397
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 5: you get past Paulo Banco as your number one guy,

2398
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 5: I think he can shoot off the ball. He can

2399
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:17,799
Speaker 5: attack closeouts, So when Franz Paulo get all the attention,

2400
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 5: that guy can attack. I think he can be grading

2401
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 5: great space for bon Caro and Wagner. They need it obviously.

2402
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 5: I think there'll be a lot of two man games

2403
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 5: between him and bon Caro. And then you know, you

2404
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 5: do have Jalen Suggs, who's underrated because he's such an

2405
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 5: incredible defender, but he is a really good off the

2406
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 5: ball shooter when he doesn't have to be the lead guy.

2407
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 5: There's some great percentages of him starting the season with

2408
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 5: bn Caro and Franz before Bancaro got hurt, he was awesome.

2409
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 5: He was really really good first five games shooting forty

2410
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 5: two from three.

2411
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: He was hot.

2412
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 5: And you know, I think he's been pretty good on

2413
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 5: catch and shoots, even though his numbers dropped off. So

2414
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 5: those two guards, with bon Caro and Ron Wagner, you

2415
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:02,680
Speaker 5: got to be excited. I think you got to be

2416
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 5: really excited. They needed a three point shooter, they got one.

2417
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 5: They needed ball handler, they got one. I think he

2418
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 5: fits in. I know they paid a lot, but I

2419
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 5: do think he fits in with their defense too, So

2420
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 5: I think there'll be a stacked team. I think this

2421
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 5: team should be up at forty five, forty six, forty seven.

2422
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 5: They should be, oh easily.

2423
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 2: Vegas has them at fifty one and a half.

2424
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know. I think that's high, but you know, yeah.

2425
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 2: They have them at almost getting into that second tier.

2426
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 2: I guess, if you want to call it in the

2427
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. I was high on them last year. Heading

2428
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 2: into that season, I took the over. I think it

2429
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 2: was one of my locks, and it was less. It

2430
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 2: was like around probably it was forty seven, forty eight

2431
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 2: wins something around there. I felt great. The first little

2432
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 2: bit they looked like the real deal, and then you know,

2433
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 2: the oblique injuries got them, no doubt to Mancaro and

2434
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 2: Franz and Suggs is always injured, so that's part of

2435
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 2: the equation here. But yeah, getting in Bain and then

2436
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 2: having these guys, they should be it should be flirting

2437
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 2: with fifty wins for sure, if everybody is healthy. Tray,

2438
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 2: it seems like you agree.

2439
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do agree, but we need to see better off.

2440
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 4: It's from the Orlando Magic, and I don't just mean

2441
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 4: the players need to be bettered though.

2442
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 2: That is a huge part of it.

2443
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 4: They need some more creative offense because it's basically Polo

2444
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 4: go one on one or Franz playing a pick and

2445
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 4: role and there wasn't really much else outside of that.

2446
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 4: I think I haven't looked into who their assistant coaches are.

2447
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 4: Do they got any Goo basketball players there? Because I

2448
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 4: think an offensive coordinator would be huge for this team.

2449
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 4: And to me, Franz is the swing player for the

2450
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 4: Magic if they were able to reach that pretty high

2451
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 4: over under, would you say.

2452
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 2: Fifty one and a half?

2453
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he is the question mark for me

2454
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 4: because either Franz or Polo has to shoot it well.

2455
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 4: Polo was at thirty two percent last year. Franz was

2456
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,759
Speaker 4: just the shade under twenty nine and a half. Polo's

2457
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 4: going to have the ball more than Franz, so it

2458
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 4: has to be Franz. I think that really improves this

2459
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 4: three point shot, and it seemed to regress last year,

2460
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 4: like it looks smooth at the.

2461
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 2: Beginning of the year.

2462
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 4: Then he had the oblique injury and he came back

2463
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,759
Speaker 4: and it was hitched central. Yeah, you know, so hopefully

2464
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 4: one of those two guys is able to figure out

2465
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 4: how to shoot.

2466
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2467
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's ever going to be Franz,

2468
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 1: but I.

2469
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 2: Think it should help. Holy crap, this guy shoots a

2470
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 2: lot of threes, and shoot him in a good cluss.

2471
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, one man. Unfortunately, Ben Carrow.

2472
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 5: I think without the injury last year was looking good

2473
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 5: before it, and hopefully the pressure off of him with

2474
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 5: ball handlers will help his three point percentage go up.

2475
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 5: But assistants, they don't look like they can ball for

2476
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 5: the Ortlanto Magic. Joe Bronte ain't saving this helthough, God

2477
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 5: sham God left the MAVs to come join them. So

2478
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 5: they got a baller.

2479
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 2: Okay, they got ball handled. Okay, okay, good stuff. All right,

2480
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 2: our final team, We've almost made it one of our

2481
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 2: longest podcasts ever, part of the Athletic. What a fitting

2482
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 2: way to end the Washington Wizards is the squad. I

2483
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 2: guess the reason for optimism is the baby boom is

2484
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 2: what I'm calling it, because you're really looking at which

2485
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 2: one of these young guys could make that leap right

2486
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,759
Speaker 2: to really blossom into a superstar or maybe potential superstar.

2487
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: This is wild though, with their two first round picks

2488
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 2: Trey Johnson and Will Riley, along with the additions of

2489
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 2: Cam Whitmore, Melacha I Bronham, and Dylan Jones, the Wizards

2490
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 2: now have ten former first round pick still on their

2491
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 2: rookie deals. It's crazy. Corey Kispert is the only vet

2492
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 2: Washington has under contract for twenty six to twenty seven,

2493
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 2: meaning the Wizards could have eighty million dollars in cap

2494
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 2: space after trading Jordan Poole for CJ McCollums expiring contract.

2495
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 2: The point is there's a lot of youth on this team.

2496
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 2: There looks to be some talent there, but I think

2497
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 2: you gotta start see end a couple of these guys

2498
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 2: sort of blossom. Alex Sar played much better after the

2499
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 2: all start break. No one cares because it was on

2500
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 2: the Wizards, on a crappy team. It's a little bit

2501
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 2: of Mickey Mouse March. But he got better. He did

2502
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 2: the numbers, jumped bill all Kolabali. He looks like a

2503
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 2: great player. His sophomore season came to an end. He

2504
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 2: had the hamstring injury, but you're hoping him with a

2505
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 2: full year of health, could be a two way fource.

2506
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 2: So and then all the guards, and I'm not gonna

2507
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 2: list every damn guy, but like, it's a lot of

2508
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,759
Speaker 2: young kids here. They're gonna be bad, there's no doubt.

2509
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 2: But can they find some gems in the bunch here,

2510
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 2: maybe in the new Picks or some of these guys

2511
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 2: they've picked up and acquired and given us life to

2512
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 2: pop off here, especially Cam Whippor, which a lot of

2513
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 2: people are pretty excited about. So yeah, that's I guess

2514
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 2: that's where I am in the Washington Wizards. I like

2515
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 2: the Wizards.

2516
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in on their rebuild right, and I still

2517
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 4: think they are the main player away unfortunately, sure, but.

2518
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 2: I think they have basically everything else.

2519
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 4: Like if they would have hit on the lottery and

2520
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 4: gotten Cooper Flag, everybody would be like, what the young

2521
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 4: core in Washington. So they've got all the support pieces.

2522
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 4: They still need the head of the snake. But I

2523
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 4: think they're doing a good job getting their ducks in

2524
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 4: a row. And this team is going to look so

2525
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 4: much different at the end of the season compared to

2526
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season. Because you mentioned all the

2527
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:37,560
Speaker 4: young guys. They still got all these old dudes that

2528
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 4: they're going to trade eventually. Yeah, Middleton's your mccollumns, stuff

2529
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 4: like that. So there it is.

2530
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 2: All thirty teams reasons to be excited on differing levels

2531
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 2: depending on the team, but I hopefully we did in

2532
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 2: a decent job of that. Let's hear from you guys

2533
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 2: with any of those squads and the stream team as

2534
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 2: you are in the YouTube comments. You can tweet at

2535
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 2: us as well at No Dunk's Ink reasons for optimism

2536
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 2: for your favorite team or any of these teams that

2537
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 2: we've gone through. Maybe what do we miss? What slipped

2538
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 2: through the cracks? Let us know. This is our final

2539
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 2: show with the Athletic, So again, thanks to the Athletic

2540
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 2: for the years of support and all the collaborators. We

2541
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 2: had a blast. Six years gone like that, but that

2542
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,679
Speaker 2: doesn't mean No Dunks is going anywhere. We'll be back

2543
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 2: next week with some basketball content and the start at

2544
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: the end of the week of our Jurassic Pals, our

2545
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 2: Jurassic Park movie franchise. Watch. We did it with Fast

2546
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 2: and the Furious back in the I guess COVID days.

2547
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 2: Really we're doing it with Jurassic Park. We'll start with

2548
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 2: the classic Jurassic Park one ninety three banger of a movie.

2549
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: We'll be talking about that. That'll drop on Friday. We'll

2550
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 2: set the premiere on Friday, and then every week a

2551
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 2: new one will drop that we'll have already in the books,

2552
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 2: So look forward to that as well as the NBA

2553
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 2: content for the coming weeks. Anything to add, guys.

2554
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 5: Well, I will say it's the summer of reinvention. As

2555
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 5: we've said, I thought there was a chance here, as

2556
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 5: we get to a near two hour podcast that we

2557
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 5: would reinvent ourselves and say we're an hour in, let's

2558
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 5: just do two and just drop it there, Just cut

2559
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 5: it there, say we're done. Just be this new show

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Speaker 5: that can just cut in the middle and say we

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Speaker 5: can make this too done.

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Speaker 2: But nah, I say we keep going for an hour.

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Speaker 2: People are still coming in. That's the real twist, the

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Speaker 2: reasons to be optimistic about every G League scene this year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's Park Skyhawks go on Kobe Buffkin. Oh wow, I

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Speaker 2: guess he'll still be He'll be bouncing back and forth

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 5: Tyson has left because he is on the Brooklyn Nets.

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Speaker 1: He's a two way guy. That's the guy that we

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Speaker 1: worked out with.

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Speaker 2: Yes we did.

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Speaker 1: I rewatched that video. We got it.

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Speaker 5: You're already reinventing yourself getting more fit because we both

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Speaker 5: we both could have taken it up a notch.

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Speaker 2: It's like holding back in the workout videos.

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Speaker 1: So now we just weren't that weren't that fit?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I mean we're fit. We're fit when I got super

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Speaker 5: fit and get super fit with Tyson.

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Speaker 2: All right, hit the leg button, subscribe podcast listeners, five

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Speaker 2: star ratings and reviews. Like I said, now would be

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Speaker 2: the perfect time to help out your boys in this

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Speaker 2: big summer for no ducks here. Big announcements coming your way.

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Speaker 2: But don't you worry. The content will keep coming uh

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Speaker 2: until next time, Until next week, clipper bro. You heard

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Speaker 2: it here first, have a great time, turn up. Love

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Speaker 2: you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us in. Remember I already used it,

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Speaker 5: already used my line. It's the summer of reinvention.

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Speaker 1: That's it. We'll just pull it, do it again. It's

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Speaker 1: the summer of

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Speaker 2: There you go, embrace the day, people,