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Speaker 1: Fold reverence, and occasionally random The Sunday Hang with Plan

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Speaker 1: by the way, somebody would just run for president. I

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Speaker 1: wish there were a Republican candidate who would pick up

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Speaker 1: this platform and run on it. That we need to

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Speaker 1: spend more time in schools not focused on critical race

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Speaker 1: theory and demeaning and denigrating America, and just giving people

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Speaker 1: tools that they could actually use. One of my favorite

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Speaker 1: you know that if you graduate from high school, if

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Speaker 1: Think about that. Those are three things that almost everybody

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Speaker 1: none of that, none of all these identity politics things

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Speaker 1: if you graduate from high school, that's something that every

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Speaker 1: isn't it that we don't just spend more time telling

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Speaker 1: of You're not saying people, hey, you gotta go get

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Speaker 1: In reality, you just have to graduate from high school,

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Speaker 1: heck of a message. Wouldn't it. Personal responsibility, individual work ethic,

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Speaker 1: give kids very attainable goals. I'm not saying that should

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Speaker 1: at home. Personal responsibility, individual work ethic, freedom. These are

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Speaker 1: the tenets of American life that lead to success, no

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Speaker 1: matter who you are, or where you're born, or what

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Speaker 1: enough about that from our political leaders. Sunday Hay with

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Speaker 1: Despite that, she continued and turned herself into a professional surfer.

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Speaker 1: so she is pointing out malebodied dominance in women's sports

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Speaker 1: Because there's obviously an advantage. We all know what the

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Speaker 1: And I give credit to Bethany Hamilton for speaking out

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