1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, time lucking load. So Michael 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Very Show is on the air. Here's Johnny. I am 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: the danger. I am the one who knocks. We'll do 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: it a lot, and we'll do it live. 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 2: Last year I spent more money on spill liquor. There's 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: fires from one side of this world to the other 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: than you may. You're talking to the rolics wearing diamond 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 2: ring wearing Je's stealing, who wheeling, dealing livings in right, 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: Jack flying set off a gun, and I'm having a 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: hard time holding his allegators. 11 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: John in the spoke up Salid, this one alwful. She 12 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: can tell that a way here. 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: That I was bad to the bowl, head of the bowl, 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: bad of the bowl, bad of the bowl. 15 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 4: Let my dog. So now that'll be the end of it. 16 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: I will not look for you. I will not pursue you. 17 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: But if you don't I will look for you. I 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: will find you, and I will kill you. 19 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 5: A minute the half that I'm bad of the bowl, 20 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 5: bad of the bowl, bad of the ball. 21 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: I want to pray, what again, I tell you I 22 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: double day. 23 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 6: Our friends at the Public Mood Company in the Heights, 24 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 6: we'll be having a shin dig Today open to the 25 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 6: public from two to seven, sort of an open house 26 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 6: come party. 27 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: It's a celebration of the one hundredth anniversary of the building. 28 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: Chris Conrad owns there that is Republic Boot Company, and 29 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: there'll be live music, they'll be drinks, they'll be pop ups, 30 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be a good time. You know, people 31 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: who are good at what they do understand that what 32 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: you think you're doing is not usually what you're actually doing. 33 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: You're in you know, cal McNair understands that they're in 34 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: the entertainment business. Now Texans fans don't hear that entertain football. 35 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: It's entertainment. It's entertainment. The problem is our house of 36 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: representatives are in Texas has gotten into the entertainment business 37 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: rather than the problem solving business. But Chris Conrad at 38 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: Republic Boot Company understands that not only do you have 39 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: to make a quality custom boot, but you got to 40 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: create an experience. And I don't think anybody does that 41 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: the way they do. Nobody does that in town the 42 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: way they do. He gets it. There's always live music. 43 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: You go in and have a whiskey, and it matters 44 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: because it's more than just a pair of boots. It 45 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: is a whole experience around it. But anyway, I was thinking, 46 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a shindig. I said the 47 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: word shindig, and I looked up the word shindig tonight today. 48 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: This earlier. The word first was first recorded in eighteen 49 00:03:53,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: fifty nine as a southernism for a kick in the show. 50 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: That's what it originally meant. Of course, as they say, 51 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: within the next decade, it came to mean a loud 52 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: and lively party. Also, the little left handed lesbian Affirmative 53 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Action press secretary Carinne Jean Pierre just wants you to 54 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: know she's she's got a book out and she has 55 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: left the Democrat Party. Just so you know, breaking news. 56 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: She has announced she has left the Democrat Party. She 57 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: is now independent. Well, what are the ramifications that she's 58 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: left it? It's different now she woke up and she's 59 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: no longer the Democrat Party. What does that mean? Juj 60 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: just wanted you to know that, just wants you to 61 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: know what what what she was? Yeah, and she also 62 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: fed her cats yesterday and both of those are about 63 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: as relevant to your life. Let's go to Randy Rendi. 64 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: You're up. 65 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 7: Michael. 66 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 5: Uh. 67 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 7: My little analogy is, you know, like my wife calls 68 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 7: me and said, hey, honey, I forgot to lay something 69 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 7: out of the freezer. Stop by Hib and get something 70 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 7: to cook for dinner tonight. So I go to Hib 71 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 7: get something cooked for dinner, and I tell you, hey, wife, 72 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 7: come help me unload all my groceries. And she's gonna 73 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 7: be like, well, okay, here's what's for dinner. Well, what's 74 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 7: all this? Well, you know, Fourth of July is coming up, 75 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 7: so I got four briskets and about twelve twenty rex 76 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 7: of ribs. Okay, well what's this? Oh, well, you know 77 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 7: Thanksgiving's coming up, so I need to get a Thanksgiving 78 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 7: turkey and do it. Well what's this, Well that's Christmas ham, right, 79 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 7: and you know the ham was there, so I figured 80 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 7: I need to get the ham. Well what's this? Well, 81 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 7: you know, Hib, if you buy six bottles of wine, 82 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 7: you get ten percent off. She goes, okay, well did 83 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 7: you need sixty bottles of wine? Well, oh, you know, 84 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 7: ten percent off. I figured that and that's the whole deal. 85 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 7: And she as send to me. She goes, all this 86 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 7: food is gonna go to Laates. That's what exactly is 87 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 7: happening here. If we need money for the boar enforcement, 88 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 7: then pass a bill to get some money for the border. 89 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 7: We don't need to pass a four trillion dollar debt 90 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 7: increase and all this stuff. And that's what Elon's saying. 91 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 7: He's like, Man, I'm doing and I'm working hard to 92 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 7: get all of these cuts and save us money. You 93 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 7: just wasted my time. And for a guy like Elon, 94 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 7: and you know that too, Michael, the most important thing 95 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 7: that guy has is time. And if you waste that 96 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 7: guy's time, he's gonna get hissed off. And I'm kind 97 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 7: of with Elon on this. We don't need to spend 98 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 7: all this. This is what the whole point was to 99 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 7: cut all of this, and here we are just gonna 100 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 7: go waste it because we need this big beautiful bill. 101 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 7: We don't need this big beautiful bill. 102 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: No doubt. 103 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 7: I think. 104 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: I think what we're witnessing is the real power of 105 00:06:53,880 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: the swamp that President Trump. And I'm not saying one 106 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: way or the other is better necessarily, I think President 107 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Trump would love to be able to take a chainsaw 108 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: to the budget and carve out huge swaths of expenditures, 109 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: and he rode a wave of popularity at the beginning 110 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: of the administration with the release of information about all 111 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: the waste, and I think people thought this thing's going 112 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: off a cliff. But maybe, just maybe we're getting it 113 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: under control. Maybe just maybe this is going to be 114 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: our moment because people have given up hope. The problem is, 115 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: in some ways that dosee exposures probably did some harm 116 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: to President Trump's big beautiful bill because now people were 117 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: in powered and I think people expected to see massive changes, 118 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: and the Republicans didn't give him what he wanted. And 119 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: I think at some point he's decided I got to 120 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: claim a victory. I got to get this thing through. 121 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: That's part of governing. And wherever you come down on that, 122 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of where we are right now. 123 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: With more up to Michael Berry Show. 124 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 8: Any time you Freddy Fender has to rank as one 125 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 8: of the great stage now because Baltimar where just doesn't 126 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 8: have the same Can you imagine hearing white people pronounce 127 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 8: his name. 128 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: I like that guy because he would have had to 129 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: have a nickname. Baldi, Baldi, Hugh Erta, Hugh Urta. How 130 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: do you say here to Herda? How do you say it? 131 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: Whatever you know I'm talking about the one does the 132 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: tear Drop song. He's good. You know he's from Corpus. 133 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: You know what's the name they call him? Baldy. I 134 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: think these real names longer than that. It's like something 135 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: something whatever. And then here it does this last name? 136 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: I think how you pronounce it? Uh, let's go to Kevin. Kevin, 137 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: you're on the Michael Berry Show. 138 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 7: Go ahead, Lorden. 139 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 9: I actually wanted to get your take on a couple 140 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 9: of things. Michael. 141 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 7: Number one. 142 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 9: A couple of months ago, Trump and Musque, we're going 143 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 9: to go to Fort Knox and tell us what they've found. 144 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 9: And then it went radio silent. So my conspiracy ship 145 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 9: theory radar one up and said, well, maybe there's something 146 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 9: going on there that they don't want us to know about. 147 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 9: So I wanted to see what your take was on 148 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 9: the whole Fort Knox thing and their visit. And then 149 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 9: I had one other thing for you. 150 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: So I thought a lot about this. You have to 151 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: be careful because if you state anything that can be 152 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: perceived or misperceived by eighty five percent of our audience, 153 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: they will say, you're not support Trump, you never suported Trump, 154 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: you didn't sport Trump. Twenty sixteen, because Trump could fart 155 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen. I mean, Trump can do no wrong, 156 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: and I think that that is a dangerous approach for 157 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: a number of reasons. It's also undemocratic and un American. 158 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: By the same token, I am not one to quickly 159 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: criticize Trump as quickly as I would normally, because there 160 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: is such a barrage incoming already that one has to 161 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: be careful because his agenda is I want his agenda 162 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: to be accomplished, and you don't want to wound him 163 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: in such a way that he's not able to do that. 164 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: So I'm mindful of that and I hold back. But 165 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: as regards the I'll take the Fort Knox issue in particular, 166 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: when the President said we're going to go there, We're 167 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: going to see what's there, and we don't think there's 168 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: anything there. I don't know. I've people are uncomfortable not knowing. 169 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: If I say I don't know something, they get upset 170 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: because they know and they want me to know. Well, 171 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: you don't know. You trusted Dan Bongeno or Glenn Beck 172 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: or who Sean Hannity or Thomas Massey or whoever you trusted, 173 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: you trusted someone else. You don't know, You just think 174 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know what's in fortnotes. There 175 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: are a number of different theories. I continue to study 176 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: the issue, but I for the president to say they're 177 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: going to do that and then not do it. The 178 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: most charitable analysis would be he wanted to expose it, 179 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: He got there and it's so bad he can't tell us, 180 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: can't tell us because it's that bad. That is a 181 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: charitable review. But you're welcome to have it. Then there 182 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: is he doesn't know and he just moved on possible 183 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: and there's pretty much anything in between, or he does 184 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: know and it turns out there is gold there. I 185 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: tell true, Miss, it doesn't matter. Those are theories that 186 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: have to be put on the table. That's that's how 187 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: you that's the scientific method. You have to question. You 188 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: have to put the various theories out on the table, 189 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: even theories you don't believe. They have to be given voice. 190 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: I do think that Trump is a master, a master 191 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: at creating a number of headlines, and he floods his zone. 192 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Obama's administration used to do that. They would come at 193 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: you with so many bad actions that we couldn't focus 194 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: on all of them, and it's it's a Mike Leech offense. 195 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: You've got so much, you got a widespread in between 196 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: each linemen you got, you got wide receivers out, you 197 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: got every you got trips right and one level. How 198 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: does that even happen? You've got an empty backfield and 199 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: then you've got motion, and you throw people off because 200 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: they're so distracted. So one theory is that didn't even matter. 201 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: It didn't matter to Trump. It stole the headlines for 202 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: the day. And what he's trying to do is keep 203 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: this ship afloat, keep it headed in the right direction, 204 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: and then he has to throw off you know, flames 205 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: here and there to distract, to catch you know, shiny 206 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: objects here and there. That is the theory I hold 207 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: the most too. My problem is, and most people don't care. 208 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: When you just said that right now, I suspect most 209 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: people said, oh yeah, what did happen with Fort Knox? 210 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: They were going to go to Fort Knox? Because if 211 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: there's a constant new and every watch Fox News, you know, 212 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: they got a chiron and then they got you know, 213 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: exploding news. We're going to this person, and everything's always 214 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: a rush. You ever notice everything's a rush? All right, 215 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: we got eighteen guests in this secue. You got a 216 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: brady bunch boxes. And then they do the whole thing 217 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: of their intros. Okay, all right, and then they go 218 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: to the first person and he starts, and then about 219 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: the time he's halfway through, you know, a short answer, 220 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: they go, all right, we're out of time. Okay, we're 221 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: gonna get because you're supposed to have pace, they're creating pace, 222 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: but you're never actually getting in and digging into in 223 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: any depth an analysis of what's going on. I suspect 224 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Trump does that to distract, to entertain, to enliven, and 225 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: it's not really an issue he cares much. That's my suspicion. 226 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,359 Speaker 1: And that's not a criticism, that's actually just an analysis 227 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: of one of the things he does. He's a showman. 228 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: He gets it. That's what most politicians don't know. 229 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 10: What's the name you say, Michael Goddy? 230 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: I think that last caller had a second question I 231 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: didn't get to, but I'll continue on that discussion. I 232 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: seem to lose a lot of folks on this issue, 233 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: on this personality trait, including my wife. When I state 234 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: something that I believe to be true, an observation. Most 235 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: of the time it is without judgment. So if I 236 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: say that, I don't think Trump cared much about Fort Knox. 237 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things. I think it 238 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: fits within a narrative that he has created. It's very 239 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: important to his governance that you cannot trust your government 240 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: and you cannot trust the media. And I think it's 241 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: important that he do that because we're constantly told by 242 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: people in government that we have, you know, to protect 243 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: democracy by the people endangering it. And I think that 244 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: by creating an environment a tumultuous sense of trust or 245 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: lack of trust, he opens people to the idea that 246 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: whatever you see in the news is probably not what's 247 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: really happening. And I credit Trump for that. It has 248 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: been credited to uh Adam Carolla, the use of the 249 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: first use of the word fake news, or the number 250 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: of folks that that you know, hey, you can say 251 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: they said it at this time, and then other people 252 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: you never know. These these these things are dynamic, But 253 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't When Pambondi said we're going to release the 254 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Epstein files and we're gonna do it now, there was 255 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: a great deal of energy among the base for two 256 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 1: reasons Number one, these bastards did something awful and they 257 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: need to be exposed. Even if they don't right in jail, 258 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: they need to be exposed because that that's gonna there's 259 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: gonna be some people off themselves. They're gonna unlive themselves 260 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: as a result of that, because of the shame and 261 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: embarrassment's gonna come out of there. They won't be able 262 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: to handle it, and it'll ruin them. It will ruin well, 263 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: it'll ruin some folks. The second reason is we just 264 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: really like salacious details, and that's we don't want to 265 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: admit that. We like to We like to uh cloak 266 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: uh wrap our uh interest in sort of details, in 267 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: something more high minded. But there's a certain amount of 268 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: we just like to know who's a dirty old pervert. 269 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: We want the details. Although I have been strangely uninterested 270 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: in the Diddy true and I don't know why that is. 271 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: I was interested before it, I haven't followed a thing 272 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, they're all in one big freak show. 273 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: They're all weirdos, they're all screwing each other, they're all. 274 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 7: You know. 275 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: One thing that has exposed is a lot of people 276 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: get to the top by submitting to sexual acts by 277 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: powerful people. I mean, in that sense, it's no different 278 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: than Howard Wines, than Harvey Weinstein, and it wasn't you know. 279 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: You think about the Rose McGowan and those who came 280 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: forward to expose Harvey Weinstein, those weren't the only ones. 281 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: They're just the only ones mad because they didn't get 282 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: any more roles and they wanted it known what happened 283 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: to them. There's a lot of people that did get 284 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: the role and did become famous. Look, if you're willing 285 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: to abandon your family, move to Hollywood and wait tables 286 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: on the midnight shift to get a chance to read 287 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: for a role with three seconds on screen, yeah, a 288 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: lot of those people are gonna have sex with Harvey 289 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: Weinstein to get the role because at that point they've 290 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: kind of been screwed a bunch of different ways already. 291 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: But when the announcement came that we were going to 292 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: have the Epstein files and then we didn't get the 293 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Epstein files, there were a series of these kind of 294 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: rug pulls, and I don't think people really care. I 295 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: think the Democrats and the Trump haters will say, hey, hey, guys, 296 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: where's the Fort Knox Gold or is there not any Huh, 297 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: where's the Epstein files? Y'all were promised, but I don't 298 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: they already didn't like Trump. The people who love Trump, 299 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: you can't prime lose from Trump. So and I don't 300 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: know that the people in the middle double back. I 301 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of people go there's a lot more entertainment, open, 302 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: brazen entertainment to the political process today than there has 303 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: been in the past, and Trump uses that to his advantage. 304 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: So I think a lot Look, it's what you get 305 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: used to. You get numbed to those sorts of things, 306 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: And starting in twenty sixteen, we did, and I'm not 307 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: sure that's all bad. We had candidates driven from public 308 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: life because of an indiscretion that they had had, you know, 309 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: some number of years before, who might have been better 310 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: legislators or leaders than the next guy, who you know, 311 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: is supposedly pristine in his sex life. I think that 312 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: Trump kind of reduced the bar to that and said, hey, 313 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: what are you going to do? What are you going 314 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: to do as a leader, and how are you going 315 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: to do it? And I think that became more sort 316 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: of pride of place in what you're doing. Let's go 317 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: to Dave David on The Michael Berrig Show. 318 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, I just don't get what Trump has to pound 319 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 10: his chest about, you know, beating the Democratic ticket. He's 320 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 10: not honest with himself. He's narcisstic to the point of 321 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 10: mental illness. I voted for him all three times, but 322 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 10: look what the alternative was. I mean, he doesn't even 323 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 10: acknowledge the fact that he beat an extremely beatable ticket 324 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 10: in disarray, in absolute disarray. He's got no character, and 325 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 10: nobody calls him out for it, or at least nobody 326 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 10: on the right side of the spectrum. I mean, Roger 327 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 10: Stallbach's got character. Tony Dungee's got character. Compare those two 328 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 10: to Trump and see what you get. 329 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Well, hold on is character as you define it? Which 330 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: is which is almost with a with a moral or 331 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: is that the most important thing? Because I can tell 332 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: you this, Tony Dungee has said a couple of things 333 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: with regard to race that we're in the Barack Obama category. 334 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee is against abortion, and for some reason, our 335 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: folks tend to conflate you're against abortion with you agree 336 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: with me on other things, and you cannot do that. 337 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: If Amy Cony Barrett has not been your example. You 338 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: cannot do that, you know. Mike Pence rose to be 339 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: the vice president on the basis that he woke up 340 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: in the morning saying he was against abortion. He went 341 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: to bed at night saying he was against abortion, and 342 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: when it came time he turned on Trump, MAGA, the 343 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: American people, decency, honor, and everything else, but he was 344 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: still against abortion. Being pro life and having pro life policies, 345 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: both as law and in culture, are an important part 346 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: of our movement, but they are not the only part. 347 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: And like every other group, they want to be the 348 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: only part. And that's how we end up. And look, 349 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: there's folks like Colin Powell, and they go, well, he 350 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: looked good in his uniform. He comes out and he 351 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: supports Barack Obama, becomes a left wing nut, but he 352 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: looked good in his uniforms activates the Michael Berry show. 353 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: Boys, get out in the room filled up with. 354 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: All when listener emailed, he's got five hundred and thirty 355 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: five congressman and senators to wrangle. That's how you end 356 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: up with the BBB. You know, I believe, whatever you 357 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: may think of what Elon has said, I believe that 358 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: Elon came into this process with a pure heart. I 359 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: think this was the dad who agreed to coach the 360 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: team because they didn't have one, and it's important that 361 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: the kids play a competitive sport and that that team 362 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: not get dropped, so he took on the role. I 363 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: think he came in with the intention of doing very 364 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: good things and now separate and aside. I think he 365 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: got a real kick out of the star power of 366 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: hanging out with Donald Trump. That's not to say Elon 367 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: was not a star, but there's nothing like Trump World. 368 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: And I think he enjoyed bringing his kid, throwing him 369 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: on his shoulders, strolling around. I think he enjoyed how 370 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: he was being interviewed with a with a different degree 371 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: of gravitas. It was just a different way he was 372 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: talked to. He was discussed as being a very powerful man. 373 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: And in the political world in America, you don't overnight 374 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: attain that role if you run for office. By the 375 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: time you get it, they've taken a few pounds of flesh. 376 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: He was, you know, flip the switch. He was there. 377 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: He was being allowed to run roughshod over anybody that 378 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: got in his way, and that's the power you don't get. 379 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: That's the great frustration of politics, and he got such 380 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: great response from most Americans as to what Doge was doing. Now, 381 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: I do believe there were death threats, and that is 382 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: I will tell you that that is unnerving and it's 383 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: something he hadn't experienced before, and there was a toll taken. 384 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was getting complaints from within the investor 385 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 1: relations groups of his companies. Sure, I'm sure he had 386 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: longtime friends who were saying, what do you doing. Trump's 387 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: a monster, how are your help? I think, by and 388 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: large it was a very positive experience. And I think 389 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: he expected that the first budget bill that came out 390 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: was going to have his fingerprints on it, and that 391 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: was going to be his swan song and it was 392 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: going to be glorious, and then it wasn't. And I 393 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: think that frustrated him. I do, And I think in 394 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: almost a naive way, this was his coming to grips 395 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: with the fact that the level of change you hope 396 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: to bring is probably not going to happen. And there's 397 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: a certain there's a certain part of you that dies 398 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: at that moment, a certain part of the inner innocence 399 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: and optimism and hope, because if in Trump's first if 400 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: Trump's first bill when he's more popular he has ever been, 401 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: the Democrats are discredited, and you've had this opportunity and 402 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: you have exposed waste on a level Americans have never seen. 403 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: You still can't get what you hoped to see in 404 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: the bill. I think that's devastating. And I think I 405 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: think he thought, I want a better bill, and I'm 406 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: willing to lay everything, every bit of political capital I 407 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: have developed into getting a better bill. And that's not 408 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: how Trump plays. Trump does love him, hate him, or 409 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: wherever in between. Trump Trump's a brawler. You know, he 410 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: went after Thomas Massey, he got kind of rough with 411 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: Rand Paul last week. He does not like to be 412 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: questioned and criticized. And that's not a judgment, that's a fact, 413 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: and that's part of That's a big part of his success. 414 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: It's a big part of his success because many people 415 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: hold their tongue. There were a lot of Republicans who 416 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: held their tongue and voted for that in the House 417 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: when they didn't want to or when they wanted more 418 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: or maybe a little further right, and that was not 419 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: what they had intended. I think there was a lot 420 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: of that going on However, they did not want to 421 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: be the one that he was targeting. So in that sense, 422 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, this is the bully pulpit, and if you 423 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: don't build it and maintain it, then you don't have 424 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: a power to wield Trump. Trump wields that power as 425 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: the iron fist behind the velvet glove. And sometimes that 426 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: glove has to come off and people have to be 427 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: reminded because every one of them has an ego, and 428 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: that's what he does. He goes after Republicans much harder, 429 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: and he does democracy. Noticed. He really makes it personal 430 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: with Republicans as opposed to Democrats, and that is because 431 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: he is also the leader of a party. There are 432 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: things he needs their vote on. But I think that 433 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: Elon came into this in the last you know, couple 434 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: of weeks, since he's come out hard against this bill. 435 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: I think he was careful to avoid criticizing Trump personally. 436 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: I think he was careful to avoid creating a direct conflict. 437 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: I think he thought he could operate outside the system 438 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: and push this thing more toward a conservative, fiscally conservative bill. 439 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: And I think Trump's way of getting him to lay 440 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: off was to take a shot. And that's a very 441 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: natural response for him. I don't think Trump is is 442 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: losing sleep over this conflict. The fact that that Elon 443 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: took a conciliatory tone last night tells me that he is. 444 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: I think I think he's I wouldn't be shocked if 445 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: if Elon kind of goes back to industry and and 446 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: gets out of this process because he's not used to 447 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: taking a punch. He's a smart guy. I have the 448 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: utmost respect for his brains, his his ability to effect things, 449 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: to make things happen, to manifest you know, these visions. 450 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: But I think this process has left him a little 451 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: beaten up. Uh And and Trump will keep Trump will 452 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: keep moving forward.