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Speaker 1: Hey there, faner Ritos, welcome to part two of our

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Speaker 1: interview with Wesley Mann. With Wesley, you'll see one of

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Speaker 1: his characters performances and never forget it, He's just that

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Speaker 1: guy that is on every single show. From Wesley's time

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Speaker 1: on Golden Girls in Full House to his most recent

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Speaker 1: performance on Palm Royal. We can't wait to continue our

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Speaker 1: conversation with him, so please welcome back Wesley.

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Speaker 2: This season, especially of Palm Royal, is extremely fast paced,

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Speaker 2: with lots of plot complications and the regulars have a

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Speaker 2: lot to do. I know, I'm the Parsley on the

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Speaker 2: plate and I took full advantage of it, but that

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Speaker 2: one just didn't fly. But I did have some really

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Speaker 2: good stuff over the last couple of so yeah, they

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Speaker 2: they edited it all beautifully together. So it's very funny.

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Speaker 2: But that's the difference between you know, for camera and

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Speaker 2: one camera. You know, you pretty much know if you're

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Speaker 3: Your chances are you're in the background of somebody's shot somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you know, because there's not a wasted word.

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Speaker 3: No, no, You've got twenty two minutes to make the

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Speaker 3: joke work. Get to the get to the problem and

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Speaker 3: the solution and got got to move along quickly.

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Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, it's just so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Uh So do you get recognized more for being the

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Speaker 1: caterpillar or being the CPR kid on Back to the

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Speaker 1: Future Part two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Good, good question. Someone asked me recently, so have

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Speaker 2: you done anything that I would be unfamiliar with? I said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: then I said, I think he took his wallet. I

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Speaker 2: think you took that guy's wallet, you know, And he

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Speaker 2: was like yeah. I said, well I looked a lot

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Speaker 2: different then. I was twenty four years old and I

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Speaker 2: weighed about one hundred and forty five pounds, and I

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Speaker 2: was running twenty five miles a week and probably smoking, right,

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Speaker 2: So I was just I was not the avuncular fellow, right.

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Speaker 2: But they do. What happens is then they'll go back

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Speaker 2: and they'll look it up on YouTube, you know, because

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Speaker 2: of me, call it, calling it the wallet the wallet Guy,

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Speaker 2: the wallet Guy, and one guy put together like a

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Speaker 1: Like a wallet guy guy.

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Speaker 2: Wallach's great. And then there was a guy in the

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Speaker 2: UK who called me the boss side guy, because apparently

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Speaker 2: that's a that's a thing if you're if if your

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Speaker 1: That's great, oh man, So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that, and it's oftentimes it's night Court. Oh yeah, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: because I was I was mister Lawler, you know, mister

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Speaker 2: Danielson who had Tortoise nervosa. And that was a really

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Speaker 2: great night too. That was also on Warner Brothers. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I spoke there and moved very slowly and that

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 3: I love watching Night Court with my mom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That's another show like yours that was so comforting

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Speaker 2: to watch, just stupid and funny and you never knew

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Speaker 3: I'm literally picturing this that set and the all of

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Speaker 3: I haven't watched that show in thirty years, but I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And when I came back to do it. I

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking about when I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: Harry Anderson, and they've all on that same set. They

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Speaker 3: House that you That's exactly what we said, like walking

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Speaker 1: I see they've added this, or you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, anyway, there's that Well, Wesley, you've.

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Speaker 1: Had such an iconic career as a character actor, and

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Speaker 2: How does that feel? I think it's the best of

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Speaker 2: do I know you? Well yeah, maybe, oh okay, because

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Speaker 3: And that's what I like said, that's the dream of

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Speaker 2: That's great, you know, that's right, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think it was lu Costello who said they'll love you,

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Speaker 2: but they'll never respect you when you're doing comedy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's fine because comedy is service. So and just

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Speaker 2: as a side note, I've always done multiple characters, like

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Speaker 2: I've done seventeen of Shakespeare's plays, and I'm often playing

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Speaker 2: three or four. That's incredible, WHOA because I like to

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Speaker 2: and all of that. When I was at Conservatory, I

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Speaker 2: a main stage production of a play called Greater Two

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Speaker 2: Characters as a two person play very well. This is

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Speaker 1: You know, those are like lovers and stuff exactly.

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Speaker 3: You don't get to be as weird, as fun, as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know there's something you can get

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Speaker 2: it's something that just gets me excited to do those things.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of huge compliment.

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Speaker 2: Like my hero is Lune Chaney Senior, you know, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right where they just it was they did

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And they were all really marvelous actors too.

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Speaker 2: I mean Vincent Price, you know, could do anything I could.

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Speaker 2: I just like to listen to him talk.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even though I had this slight little list, it

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Speaker 3: And again an interesting voice, give me an interesting voice,

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Speaker 2: Him and carlofft Yeah, every every every Christmas, I have

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Speaker 2: to watch the original Grid.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, original grand classic, so good classic. Well, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us today. Wait, we got

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Speaker 1: to talk about Full House. We could talk all day

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Speaker 2: Have to talk about an interesting time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, our show that we completely forgot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was a waiter on Full House. I

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Speaker 2: when we get to Wednesday, and a producer's run one

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Speaker 1: Yes, correct, they're right, yes, And.

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Speaker 2: The director came to me and said, okay, so you're

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Speaker 2: I think I still got my last. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you did.

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Speaker 1: Well, so and so for people we haven't we're doing

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Speaker 1: reached season eight yet. So for our fans who haven't

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, of course, you know I grew up doing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the second you would say more and art show

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Speaker 2: You have a big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: Did you know did you know Bob Saggott or John

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Speaker 1: Stamos before this or was this your first time meeting?

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Speaker 2: No, that was the first time I met those guys.

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Speaker 2: And Dave Cooleier too, was really really he's the best.

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Speaker 2: They made me feel welcome, you know. Good.

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Speaker 2: Other than other than I was too funny, right, we

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Speaker 2: love you.

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Speaker 1: Don't be too funny, a little less fun Yeah? What

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Speaker 1: then I said, Yeah, that's why you were invited back

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Speaker 1: for fuller houses. Were too damn funny.

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Speaker 3: You were too good, Leslie, just suck a little more.

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Speaker 2: I have to remember that.

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Speaker 1: Be funny, right, yeah, did you have to audition for

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Speaker 2: Which which full house? Oh? Yes, I auditioned, you did, Okay?

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Speaker 2: I auditioned for everything.

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Speaker 1: This has been such a fun conversation. No, not all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much, Wesley. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, best of luck to you.

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