1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Play and Buck Kicked Off kicks off right now. Thanks 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: for being here with us. Play on vacation for a 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: few days. We'll be back with us on Monday. Send 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: you all these best regards. This is Buck. I'm rocking 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: at solo today and holy smokes, I am getting inundated 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: with photos from the Big Apple, New York City in 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 2: golf in a orange haze because of these Canadian Thanks Canada, 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: these Canadian wildfires, and the photos are really stark stuff. 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it looks it looks a little bit like 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: what you would think the atmosphere on Mars might be 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: or something if you were to be walking around. Kind 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: of reminds me of the Great Smag of London of 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty two. I'm sure if you're a watcher of 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: The Crown and somebody who watches that series, you would 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: know about the Great Smog of London in. 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: Nineteen fifty two. 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: But it's a bit like that in terms of what 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: it looks like outside of New York City. So I 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: hope it just passes quickly. I'm friends and family are 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: telling me, they're kind of avoiding going outside. One of 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: our producers, Greg and New York City says that it 24 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: even makes your eyes water a little bit when you're outside. 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: It's not good. So I hope that'll all get cleaned up. 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 2: I can assure you that printing presses so to speak, 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: or getting fired up with articles about how this is 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: climate change, climate change, So how is it client it's 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: a fire with wind that has blown the smoke from 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: the fire south because of a very big fire or 31 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: a series of fires. Well they'll say that you know 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: why the fire happened because they're the grass where you know, 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: the not faun of the flora. You know, the plants 34 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: and things were dry because oh everything's more dry because 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: of climate change. Usually the most I think the most 36 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: common cause of forest fires is human, meaning people light 37 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: the fire, either on purpose or by accident. But they'll 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: there'll be articles about the climate change situation and how 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: that ties into this. In fact, one of my constant frustrations. 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: I do like to watch the occasional nature program. You know, 41 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: I've always since I was a little kid. My mom 42 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: could even attest to this. I think I wrote in 43 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: the first grade that I want to be an animal conservationist. 44 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: When I grew up, I don't even know how to 45 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: spell conservationists, but I had learned the term from watching 46 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: so many National Geographic specials. 47 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: I had all of them on VHS. 48 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: I had the National Geographic on jimpin, the National Geographic 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: on Sharks, the National Geographic some of you know what 50 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. They actually had a pretty great series 51 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: back in the day. And this is before you could 52 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: use drones and automatic cameras for everything, so the photographers 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: had to get up close and it was you know, 54 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: the footage was a little bit more exciting because now, 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they they basically attach a GoPro 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: to a great white shark's head and you know, you 57 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: see everything that's going on. But back in the day 58 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: photographers had to do a little more. Why am I 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: telling you about animals? I actually just ran myself so 60 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: far off the tracks that I can't even remember animal conservationist. 61 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: Oh that I can't win. I did this to myself 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: last night at Saint Louis too. I went off a 63 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: tangent of a tangent, and I had to ask somebody 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: the front row, what was my main thesis here? And 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: they reminded me, and I stayed on track. I was fine, 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: But you can't watch any any programming National Geographic Style, 67 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, Earth and these things on Netflix without getting 68 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: a lecture on climate change. At some point the voice 69 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: over would be like, but what is really causing the 70 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: destruction of the double quested cormorant? 71 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Climate change? 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: He said there here, like really really, Yeah, sure, that's 73 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: what's causing it. It's always it's always climate change. Yeah, 74 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: So they'll be writing about that, I am sure in 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: the next twenty four hours. But how there's some somehow 76 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: tied to it. But yeah, it's it's worse today than 77 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: it is yesterday. Everyone thaw me New York Cities and 78 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: in rough shape Saint Louis. Speaking of cities, I was 79 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: there last night and it was great to go check 80 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: it in and hang out with our affiliate there in 81 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Appreciate everybody listening. And I did a live 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: event and it was interesting to me because it was 83 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: my first time in city limits. The only time I 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: had been in the Saint Louis area before. Was actually 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: an interview Mike Pence as part of the Hill TV 86 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: project at the Hill. 87 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: Dot Com that I launched a few years ago. 88 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: I was a host there, but I went to interview 89 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: Mike Pence and I went right from the airport to 90 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: some venue outside the city. So I never really experienced 91 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: Saint Luisi Ball, So it was my first time being 92 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: in that city, and. 93 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: As you know, I had the experience. 94 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm hitting the Midwest tour a little bit more of 95 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: these days, I've realized as a New Yorker, I've spent 96 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: obviously a ton of time in the Northeast and in 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: New York and DC. Now I live in Florida, I've 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in. 99 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: The South. 100 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: For one family eye family in the South in Virginia, 101 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: but also some of the government work that I did 102 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: took me to Virginia and other places military facilities where 103 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: I would spend weeks on end. And then then the 104 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: West Coast. I spent a lot of time in California. 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: I haven't spent as much time in the Midwest as 106 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: I would like to, so I'm going to be spending 107 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: a little more time. And I went to Chicago last 108 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: year for the first time, and I had that experience 109 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: where I turned to carry at the Silver Bean and 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Millennium Park, and I said, is it really I wonder 111 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 2: if the crime is really as bad as everyone says. 112 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: And then in about an hour and a half later, 113 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: there was a fatal shooting broad daylight right next to 114 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: where we were, right there at the bean. Sixteen year 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: old shot and killed another sixteen year old, and I said, okay, 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: oh yeah, no, the violence here is bad, really bad, 117 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: not even limited to certain areas of the city that 118 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: need additional attention. So I was at Saint Louis and 119 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm excited to I see the arch, and I'm excited 120 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: to check out the greatest barbecue and all the different 121 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: things that Saint Louis has to offer. And I get 122 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: into the I'm going to this station radio station. I 123 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: get to the uber and I say to the gentleman 124 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: who's driving me, we're chatting up. I'm chatting up a 125 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: little bit. We're talking because I always like to get 126 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: a little bit of a sense of, you know, what's 127 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: going on in the city. So he said, oh, we've 128 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: got great baseball here and everything else. And I said, so, well, 129 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: what should I know? Where should I go? And he says, well, 130 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: first of all, don't go out walking by yourself. 131 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: At night, downtown. 132 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: I look at them, I'm like, wait a second, we're 133 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: in We're in downtown, Like right now, you're telling me 134 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: that you don't think it's you're you're a lifetime Saint 135 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Louis and you're telling me you don't think it's safe 136 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: for me to walk around in the downtown of the 137 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: city at night. And he's like, I wouldn't do it. 138 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: I said, Okay, that's not and then I went I 139 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: saw more. I saw a whole bunch of folks. Uh 140 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: last night, you know, hundreds of people came out and 141 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: we we got to chat, and they all told me 142 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: one after another when I shared this experience with them, 143 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: and they said, yeah, yeah, that's unfortunately the reality of 144 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: that city now it has become, and it has been 145 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: for years. 146 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: It is very dangerous now. 147 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: They mostly, pretty much all of them I think I 148 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: met in person, live in the suburbs and it's nice 149 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: and it's quiet, it's pretty, and they have land and 150 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: you know, they're they're so so for them. The city 151 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: isn't a day to day problem for them. But they're 152 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: very aware of the fact that Saint Louis has a 153 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: very high homicide rate depending on the year, and the 154 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: numbers you use, it's usually in the top three for 155 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: shootings in the country. I think it might have even 156 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: been number one in the last couple of sometime in 157 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. It's usually Saint Louis. I 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: think New Orleans is usually on that list as well. 159 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Baltimore is always pretty. 160 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: High on that list. 161 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: There are a number of these cities, and I just 162 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: remember thinking to myself, here, I'm a visitor to this place. 163 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm all excited to be here. I'm excited to spend 164 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: some time with with Missourians and talk to them about 165 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: what they think is going on in the country and 166 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: just have that experience. And to hear that the largest 167 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: city in the state has this problem. To me, it's 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: just a shouldn't this be an all hands on deck situation? 169 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: Right? 170 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: Shouldn't this be the primary focus of the city? You know, 171 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: city legislature, the mayors off is that everybody. 172 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: Because it's a great city. 173 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: It's right on the Mississippi River, it's got great food, 174 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: it's got great sports. 175 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm like that, you know, you fix it. They've got 176 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: all these big employers. I learned a lot. 177 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: I always find it whenever I go somewhere in the 178 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: first time. I approach it like a CIA officer, you know, 179 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: area familiarization, right, I approach it but I just want 180 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: to know as much as I can about the place 181 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: in a short time, so I have some sense of 182 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: what's going on. And there's so much cool stuff happening there. 183 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: And this is the same thing. When I was in Chicago, 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: I had the same Now, I've spent time in other 185 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: cities that have high levels of violence, and you know 186 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: that's unfortunately there's a lot of similarities that you experienced here. 187 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: But I'm in Chicago. 188 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: I think this is Chicago is beautiful. It is a 189 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: beautiful city, It is a historic city. It has amazing food, 190 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: it has really cool culture. 191 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm like this place. I was also there on. 192 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: A seventy five degree day, which everyone tells me is 193 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, if you're going to see Chicago, go in 194 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: at seventy five degrees. 195 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: But it was amazing. 196 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: But it has too high of a crime rate, and 197 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: it is the single biggest anxiety that I think the 198 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: residents their deal with day in and day out, and 199 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: certainly the same thing in Saint Louis. And I sit 200 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: here and I just say, what is it going to 201 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: take what threshold has to be crossed? You know, they 202 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: had Kim Gardner was a Soros back prosecutor. There she's out, 203 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: they said. The new prosecutor, I think is a little 204 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: bit better, the new sort of main city prosecutor. But 205 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: what does it take for some of these Democrat enclaves 206 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: entirely controlled by Democrats. You notice this is it's a 207 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: recurring theme, It's a recurring story. You have a major city, 208 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: you have a crime rate that is far too high, 209 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: You have far too many people, and disproportionately young black men, 210 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: losing their lives to violence on the streets, and the 211 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: Democrat Party does what What is the answer to this? 212 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: They talk about out racism in the police department and 213 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: the need for more community investment. This isn't fixing anything. 214 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: Neither of those things are fixing anything. And really the 215 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: first one about the racism in the police department is 216 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: just a distraction. It's meant to avoid dealing with the 217 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: real issue, which is how are laws being enforced? You know, 218 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: they told me that some of the residents again told 219 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: me that there are a lot of low level traffic 220 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: infractions that in downtown Saint Louis aren't observed at all, 221 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: meaning if someone just flies through a red light, they 222 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: won't pull them over. They don't care. Now, I don't 223 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: know if this is just their perception or if this 224 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: is almost administrative reality now with law enforcement there, I 225 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: do know that in Chicago you're not allowed to chase 226 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: somebody on foot really for a whole range of reasons. 227 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: So if a felon decides to run, the cops aren't 228 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: supposed to give chase. Makes in a whole range of circumstances. 229 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: It's not all circumstances. 230 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: But that makes it. 231 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: A lot easier to be a criminal, doesn't it. Oh wait, 232 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: there are the cops. Well, I'm going to run and 233 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to drive after me, 234 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: and they're probably not even going to be able to 235 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: chase after me on foot because that's not department policy. 236 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: It sounds like that can't be true. But these are 237 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: the laws that have been and these are the policies 238 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: that have been implemented in these places. And I just 239 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: I put this out there because to me, this should 240 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: be one of the biggest issues. This should be one 241 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 2: of the biggest drivers for independent votes to go to Republicans. 242 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: The only answers Republicans who are going to actually enforce 243 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: the law. Everything else is noise. And so I don't 244 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: know what that means for Saint Louis and for Baltimore, 245 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: and for New Orleans and for these these Democrat single 246 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: party enclaves. But for the rest of the country and 247 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: in states where there's still some sanity at the state 248 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: legislative level, you have to just you have to enforce 249 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: the law, and that means all the laws you have 250 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: to I see this trend, this troubling trend of people 251 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: who when the police pull them over. You've probably seen 252 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: this on Instagram and it's on TikTok all the time now, 253 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: and they view it as a game to just be 254 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: as antagonistic to the police as possible and refuse to 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: obey any commands and dare them to do. 256 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Something about it. 257 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: This is a widespread attitude, I'm telling you. You see 258 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: it's all over the internet now. You know that the 259 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: officer will say, you know, you were speeding, and you're like, 260 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: you know, and your registration's expired and I need you 261 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: to provide idea They say. 262 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to do it. 263 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 2: The officer says, come on, you know, I'll pull you 264 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: out of the car. No, and maybe they start, you know, 265 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: cursing at the officer or whatever. That mentality, that stuff 266 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,479 Speaker 2: at the lower level is the foundation of the degradation 267 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: of the rest of the society around it through higher crime. 268 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: The little stuff turns into the big stuff when everyone 269 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: thinks that they can just well whenever thinks that the 270 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: laws aren't going to be enforced, the criminals take advantage 271 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: of it. And there's no answer from Democrats on this 272 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: at all. Ending mass incarceration was not an answer. It 273 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: actually made things worse, ending mass incarceration, which didn't even 274 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: really happen. But when I go to these great American cities, 275 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: whether it's San Francisco or New York or Chicago or 276 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: Saint Louis or wherever, and I see this playing out, 277 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: it is just so frustrating, and I almost wish that 278 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: we could say, can we put aside all the rest 279 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: of politics for a second here, Libs, Democrats, can we 280 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: sit down and get serious. You have to enforce the law, 281 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: and you have to punish criminals who refuse to obey laws, 282 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: or else this never gets better, or else people are 283 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: going to be telling visitors to otherwise great cities. You 284 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: can't walk around downtown at night by yourself. It's not safe. 285 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: That's just wrong. That's not where we should be in 286 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three of the country, anywhere in this country. 287 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: And it really it is a question of political ideology. 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna say it. It is the fault 289 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: of Democrats that this is where we are now. Straight up, 290 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: we all know it. So let's call it out. 291 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two A two two eight A two. 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Climate change is accelerated these conditions. 382 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: Climate change has accelerated these conditions. 383 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Of course. 384 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: See a polar bear that's having a tough time getting 385 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: from one ice flow to another. 386 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: Climate change. 387 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: You have some fishermen somewhere that are saying they're not 388 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: catching as many snow crab. 389 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: As they usually do. 390 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: Climate change, wildfires in California, wildfires in Canada. Things get hotter, 391 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: things get colder, things get wetter, things get drier. It 392 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: is all climate change. Isn't that amazing? People need to think, 393 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: they need to think more Gary in northern Arizona former 394 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: firefighter Gary, what do you have for. 395 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 4: Us, Yes, sir, to hear it. The left always point 396 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: to climate change. Just it's ludicrous. These people are insane. 397 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: To be one of them, you have to be brainless 398 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: for the most part. 399 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: When brainwashed. 400 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, both of those I believe, sir. But when 401 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: we still had logging in Arizona, our forests were probably 402 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: never more healthy than since that time, they put a 403 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: more torum on logging because a lot of people on 404 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: the left, a lot of the cry babies. They said 405 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 4: we were over harvesting the forest. We had to leave 406 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 4: the forest alone. And you got to remember, as part 407 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: of the logging operation there was a cleanup. Half of 408 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: it or more was provided by the logging outfit. They 409 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: also provided money back to the fort service to clean 410 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: up whatever remainder of the slash that they didn't clean up. 411 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: As a result, you had a very clean forest floor, 412 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: which reduced the incidents of a wildfire. Since we did 413 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 4: the more taorum, not we, but since they caused the moratorium, 414 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: they put all logging basically out of business in Arizona, 415 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 4: and we've never had a higher incidence of wildfires. Probably 416 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: in the history of Arizona, ordered history of the United States. 417 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: They don't use logic, they don't use pack they don't 418 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 4: use common sense when they make it. 419 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: You know, Gary, I, you know, since you have professional 420 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: experience with this, I appreciate that perspective. I think similar 421 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: situations played out in California. 422 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Am I right on that one. 423 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: California just decided to stop doing not only any logging, 424 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: but forestry management really, and then they get these big 425 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: forest fires and then they say it's climate change. 426 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 4: Well, see that's how Yellowstone blew up back in the eighties. 427 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: It was about the mid to late eighties. They decided 428 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: somebody with their college degree higher up in the Department 429 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: of the Interior, I believe it was, we're going to 430 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: go back to a wilderness area in Yellowstone, and we're 431 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: not going to hit any fires that we would normally 432 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: hit in the past. We're going to let it go 433 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: back to wilderness. Well, that would have been fine if 434 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 4: you weren't putting them out for one hundred years. Mother 435 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: nature does take care of herself. She will put a 436 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: fire down every so often to up the forest. The 437 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: undercover or the underbrush was a lot lower when it 438 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: was natural, but when they said no more putting fires out, 439 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: and then you just have this build up. It's kind 440 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: of like if you had a single sheet of paper 441 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: and you said it on fire, versus balling that paper 442 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: up and chilling up your room with balled up bloods 443 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 4: of paper. 444 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 445 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: The density, the density of the of the underbrush. Thank 446 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: you for calling in, Gary, I know I'm actually looking 447 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: this up too as I'm talking to you. Yeah, California 448 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: has done the same same thing completely no surprise, mismanaged 449 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: its forests and leads to so think about this. The 450 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: state of California does a poor job managing its forests, 451 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: which makes them more likely to have extreme forest fire 452 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: situations because of the overgrowth of the underbrush and the 453 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: density of you know, dead wood and plants and things 454 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: like that that grow in, and they won't allow clearing, 455 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: logging things like that. Then the fire comes through, it 456 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: burns hotter and faster than it would otherwise, and they 457 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: blame climate change, and then they want to institute policies 458 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: to deal with the climate change that do nothing other 459 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: than make people poorer, more frustrated, make energy costs go up. 460 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: It's really uh, it is a sickness. It does climate 461 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: change in particular as a religion. But maybe it's not 462 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: a religion. Maybe it's just more an anxiety disorder, mental 463 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: illness of sorts. Jeff in Texas. More a lot of 464 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: people with thoughts on the fire and how it's affecting 465 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: New York. Jeff, what's up, hey, Buck? 466 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you're a history boss. So go back to 467 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: nineteen ten and the fire called the Big Burn where 468 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 5: three million acres burned in two days in the Pacific northwest. 469 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 5: Briosevelt got involved in that, and that was the budding 470 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 5: period of the Fourth Star was last. I recall there 471 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 5: were hardly any automobiles at that time, very little electrical generation, 472 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 5: you know, using fossil fuels or anything. And you know, 473 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: the climate folks want to hijack this recent burn, which 474 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 5: is an absolute pipsqueak compared to that monster one hundred 475 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 5: and thirteen years ago. And you know, maybe they need 476 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 5: to get their history books out. Heck, google it for 477 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 5: all I care. But heads up, this been going on forever. 478 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 5: In your previous caller from Arizona, nail it. It's logging 479 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 5: and forestry practices that are causing these smaller, yet more 480 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 5: intense outbreaks, all in the name of quote climate change nonsense. 481 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: The total nonsense. But remember the people the correlation. Thank 482 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: you so much for calling in the correlation on the 483 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: issue of climate change and people who mask alone in 484 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: cars to save them from COVID. 485 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: Right, relation is one. 486 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: Meaning someone who would mask up against COVID because Fauci 487 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: said so, because science. They would also tell you they 488 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: believe in climate change. And if you don't believe in 489 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: climate change, they would shout science in your face because 490 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: this is an elevation of a pseudo scientific consensus as 491 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: a means of establishing greater control over the rest of society. 492 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: Right they, the scientists say, therefore we must do. It's 493 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: a huge gateway to authoritarianism, which is what we saw 494 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 2: all throughout COVID. Sean in Rochester, New York, where I 495 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: remember I went to Nick Tajos and had a garbage 496 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: plate many a year ago. 497 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: What's going on, Sean? 498 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. And yeah, we 499 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 3: have about the only thing we're famous for that in 500 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: a homicide rate these days. 501 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 2: Oh wait, hold on a second, Rochester's got a high 502 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: homicide rate too. I didn't even I didn't realize that. 503 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: Oh, dear guy, Yes, sir, we are setting records. I've 504 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 3: been a police officer now for about twenty years in 505 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: the Rochester area, and I can tell you that, you know, 506 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: back in two thousand and two when I started graduated academy, 507 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: and then when I was on patrol, where I've spent 508 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: you know, my entire career, with the exception of a 509 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: few years, and are a narcotic unit playing clothes. I've 510 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: watched a degradation in front of my own eyes and 511 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: it's remarkable and all I can say. You know, when 512 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: I when I went back to school mid career, I 513 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: got my degree in political science and I traveled overseas 514 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: to Israel, spent some time over there training you know, 515 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 3: jiu jitsu and some firearms stuff that's kind of been 516 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: my neck. I went into the West Bank, into Ramala, 517 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: and I got a Palestinian cab driver who drove me 518 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: around and I'll never forget what he told me. He said, 519 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: the problem with you Americans is you're not willing to 520 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 3: make sacrifices because you want to see immediate results, whereas 521 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: US Arabs will sacrifice today for results that will never 522 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: be arived for and With that said, you know I've 523 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: studied Eurie bez Manoff is a famous KGB defector. 524 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, you're sure, yeah. 525 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 3: Oh, he's one of my favorites, and he talks about 526 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: ideological subversion and the way he articulates it is genius 527 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: because it's exactly what I've seen happen in my patrol career. 528 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: And my point is is that what frustrates me is 529 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: the Republican Party needs to understand and need to back 530 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: off this hardline, hard stance abortion position. Now. I hate 531 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: saying that. The Paints mean to say that, but we're 532 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: never going to win moderate Democrats, We're never going to 533 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: win Centrists if we take this stance. What we have 534 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: to do as a Republican Party, if we want to 535 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: win twenty twenty four, is start focusing on the reintroduction 536 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: of moral standards in the schools. That addresses the later 537 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: issues that morph into why are kids having abortions to 538 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: such high rates? So we need to let go of 539 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: that understand that we can't legislate our way to change 540 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: people's hearts and minds. The position we're in now is 541 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: exactly what Yuri talked about, and we've put ourselves in 542 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: that position because we conceded, made micro concessions to the 543 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: last over the past forty sixty sixty years, you know, 544 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: at the university and school level. So we have to 545 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: win back our schools through you know, town school board elections, 546 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: becoming involved in talent politics and at the grassroots level 547 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: take it back. We cannot. We have to back off 548 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: this hardline stance or we're gonna lose, you know. 549 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for calling in Seawan. We got 550 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna we gotta leave it there for right now. 551 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: But I appreciate it, and thank you for doing what 552 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: you can to try to keep your community safe. I 553 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 2: remember now, I think I did read something on how 554 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: Rochester is having a really really rough go of it 555 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: with the homicide, right, which is what I mean. Some 556 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: of these cities you don't even you would never even 557 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: think about it, and then they just have this intractable 558 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: problem of high violent crime per capita. And you look 559 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: and there's always a Democrat in charge. 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I think we're putting up photos 599 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: right team of the just at the website for anyone 600 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: to see of what's going on now in New York City. 601 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: My New York friends and family, as you know most 602 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: of my families, well yeah, most of my family still 603 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: lives in New York City. It's about half and half 604 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: now they're telling me it's people aren't going outside because 605 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: of this this smoke plume or whatever it is they're 606 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: calling it, and the sky really looks apocalyptic. 607 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty crazy. America's biggest city right now enveloped 608 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: in this. 609 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: Also, if you haven't subscribed yet to our podcast channel, 610 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: which is the well, the best way to do it 611 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: is the iHeart app, so in the app store for 612 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: wherever you get your apps down on the iHeartRadio app. 613 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: You can listen to show streaming too. 614 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: It's a great way to do it, and other great 615 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: Premiere network shows. And you can listen to music different 616 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: music stations across the country too. But for the podcast, 617 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: got some really good stuff. We had doctor j Botacharia 618 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: on recently and he talks about COVID and the health complex, 619 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: the health industrial complex, if you will, so so interesting 620 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: at Yon Me park on talking about North Korea. She's 621 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: a North Korean defector coming out to warn everybody. Yes, 622 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: some of the mentality, not the tactics and not the 623 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: same extreme level, but some of the mentality of North 624 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: Korean dictatorship she is seeing from the authoritarian left in 625 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: this country. So I think that's quite a thing. To 626 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: pay attention to worth us all spending a moment to 627 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: think about what that would look like. So yeah, those 628 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: are all things that I am hoping you will get 629 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: a chance to listen to and the best we're gonna 630 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: do it. 631 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, iHeart app subscribe. 632 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: Also, I'm on Instagram, so you can send me a 633 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: message there tell me you think about the show today. 634 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: I try to get through a lot of the messages, 635 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: I can't respond to all of them. And also YouTube 636 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: check us out on YouTube playing buck shows. So we 637 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: got a lot going on, folks, a lot of things happening. 638 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: I did see something today that made me think a 639 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: little bit. There's a new plan out for double stacked 640 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: coach airfare or airplanes. So you think about it like 641 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: it's almost like a bunk bed, but an airplane seat. 642 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: This is a new design, so one seat is elevated 643 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: up and the other seat behind it fits in beneath it. 644 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: It's really like bunk beds the best way I can 645 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 2: describe it. And this would at least give you more legram. 646 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: I was today. 647 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 2: Crunched into a seat flying back on a five am 648 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: flight from Saint Louis, and I like to think of 649 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: myself as a patient man. But I'm not that large, 650 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: but my knees are obviously touching the seat right in 651 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: front of me. No one wants to be on a 652 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 2: five am flight. So the mood on the five am flight, 653 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: you know, is not one of sheer joy. It's not 654 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: like you're on the five pm Friday flight from New 655 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: York to the Bahamas or from LA to Cabo or something. 656 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this is I guess Miami is 657 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: pretty nice, to be fair, so but. 658 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: You get that. 659 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, five am is early is the point. 660 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: Five am is early. And I don't know how to 661 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: deal with this some people. Maybe I'm just being a 662 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 2: little get off my lawn here. Some people are very 663 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: aggressive with your seat back and this drives me completely insane. 664 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: So I managed to get onto a flight in my 665 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: little coach seat and sit there, you know, incognito, doing 666 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: my thing, and not use the chair in front of 667 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 2: me like a springboard. Every time I want to get up, 668 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: you know, there's the springboard. People they grab the back 669 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: of the chair like the headrest that's your head rest, 670 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: and they pull on it and they launch themselves up. 671 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: It's like you have armrests. You know, you could use 672 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: the arm rest. You don't have to use the the 673 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 2: head rest that my head is on as I'm trying 674 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: to sleep as the springboard. 675 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: You're not in the Olympics, sir. 676 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe maybe double decker seating is the answer, 677 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: because let's just say, in an era where there weren't 678 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 2: video cameras everywhere, I might have had to ask the 679 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: person behind me to stop treating the seat I was 680 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 2: sitting in like a punching bag, you know, constantly fiddling 681 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: with it, pushing it, putting his knees into it. 682 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: Right, you know, this is we gotta get better. We 683 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: gotta get. 684 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: Better coach seating on airplanes. This is just a thing 685 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: that we're gonna have to fight for in this country. 686 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 2: I don't know how we do it, but maybe it's 687 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: the bunk bed situation, and maybe we could get them 688 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: bunk beds like the you know, race car bunk beds 689 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: back in the day. You know, we get a little 690 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: stylish with it. That's just my thought. That's my thought. Anyway. 691 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: I so appreciate all of you hanging out with me. 692 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. On Clay and Buck, I'm 693 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: in solo tomorrow, we'll have a lot. 694 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: To talk about. I have a feeling there could be 695 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: some really big breaking news this week. 696 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: What am I thinking of, Well, you're gonna have to 697 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 2: tune into the show and then you'll find out