1 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: Hey, I do Part two. It's one of your hosts, 2 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Jenny Garth. And one of the things I love about 3 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: this podcast is getting to hear people's unique ways they 4 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: find love. In chapter two, my guest today is living 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: proof that you should never give up on finding love. 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: She's a television host, beauty and lifestyle expert, author, and 7 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: co host of the podcast God's Table. Hollywood. Please welcome 8 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Kim Douglas and her husband Tim Robertson to the pod. Kim, 9 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: you have lived such a full life of love and loss, 10 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: and I just want our listeners to get to know 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: sort of your chapter one before we dive into beautiful 12 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: chapter two. Oh so, can you tell us a little 13 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: bit about your first marriage? 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so. 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: I was a news anchor in up state Michigan. I 16 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: always put the mitten up, and it was up here, 17 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: way up here. And it was my first interview out 18 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 3: of college, and I interviewed an actor much like yourself 19 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: from a show called. 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: The Young and the Restless. 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: He played a character named John Abbott, and he was 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: my first interview, and the joke goes, thank god I 23 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: didn't interview Charles Manson or Chuckie Becker because I would 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: have been married to them, and it was a good 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: interview and blah blah blah. Anyway, we were married very 26 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: shortly after that interview, and he was a lot older 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: than I was, and at our wedding they were making 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: bets that we would last six months. 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: Ended up being. 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Married for thirty seven years and we had one child, Hunter, 31 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: and he lives in Los Angeles. He's twenty eight. He's 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: in five finance. And I had a beautiful marriage and 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: he was a wonderful husband and a great father. And 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: he passed away almost four years ago of throughout cancer. Yes, yes, 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: I thought my life was over and the best was 36 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: behind me, and that you get one love in your 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: life and. 38 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: You know, and it just it was. It was hard, 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: it was bad. 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: I went through cancer myself and the Ellen Show, as 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: you mentioned, when we first got on, she ended up 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: ending her show. So I had all these endings that happened, 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: and I didn't think there'd be any new beginnings. 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, healing and moving forward seems so unimaginable after 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: a loss like that, like all of those. I'm curious 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: did you and your first husband have conversations about what 47 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: he wanted for you after he passed like, did he 48 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: want you to find love again? 49 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: That's really funny. 50 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: And I wonder if Tim went through this too, although 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 3: his was much faster because Jerry's was a five year 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: battle and they didn't diagnose him correctly till toward. 53 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: The very end. We had a long time to go through, 54 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: you know, how this was going to be. 55 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: And so what's really interesting, Jenny is that he would say, 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: I don't want anybody else to be with you, you. 57 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: Know, I just want it to have been me. But 58 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: then he. 59 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: Said, but I don't want to be selfish, and you're 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: so much younger than I am, and you have so 61 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: much more life left I do. I do want you 62 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: to to have love again. So it was that, you know, 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say like he was so altruistic 64 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: and was like, go off and find love, But by 65 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: the same token, he wasn't selfish either and knew that 66 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: I had a whole life I had me. 67 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: That's nice, Tim, would I would love to hear a 68 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: little bit more about your chapter one as well. How 69 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: long were you married to your first wife. 70 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: I was married to my college sweetheart, married forty seven years. 71 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: Wow, and great marriage. 72 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had wonderful marriage, five children, children and now 73 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: seventeen grandchildren. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's it's life 74 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: around this house. 75 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: It's nuts. 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: And you know, Kim had one child. She said she 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: always wanted a bigger family. 78 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 5: Well she got one sheet one she did, so anyway, 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 5: we have one. But it was. 80 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: She was a picture of health. She was a very 81 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: strong athlete, had played in those days. It wasn't d one, 82 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 4: it was the nai or whatever they call it. But 83 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 4: she played top all sports in college. And she was 84 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and was kind of shock. And 85 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 4: we went through a blitz of going to everywhere from 86 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: you know, the best cancer center, the Mnie Anderson and 87 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: Houston and all these places. But that's one of the 88 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: cancers that is one of the most deadly. And from 89 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: the time she was diagnosed to the time she finally 90 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: died was about three months. We really didn't have a 91 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: lot of time to sort of figure it all out. 92 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: And but anyway, we had a great marriage, you know, 93 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: And I think the the thing that boid both of 94 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: us said it was strengthened both of us was we 95 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 4: had an extraordinary faith. And I think that's one of 96 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: the things that sort of brought Kim and me together 97 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: as well. 98 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: How you meet. 99 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: We met because I was doing a business deal with 100 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: a former associate of mine in Los Angeles and I 101 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: get this strange text one day. He says, do you 102 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 4: mind if I call you about something of personal matter? 103 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: And I thought, you're my friend, we've been I've known 104 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: you for twenty some years. You can call me anytime 105 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: you want to call me up there, schedule a call 106 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: with me and anyhow, so he causes, you know, I 107 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: was at this gathering of women last night and picking 108 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: up my wife and in front of the car, in 109 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 4: front of you know, the headlights, my wife walked in 110 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 4: front of him with another lady and I just literally heard, 111 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: like a physical voice say. 112 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 5: Tim Robertson needs to meet her. 113 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: And I was like what I said, Oh, come on, 114 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: you know, and you know, I've been around a lot 115 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: of faced stuff and when people start saying they hear 116 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: from God, I kind of go, you know, well, that's great. 117 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 5: For you, but I want to do. 118 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: Well. God tells me that that's so. But anyhow, I 119 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: had a reason to go to LA because we were 120 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: doing this business deal and he said, let me arrange 121 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: a meeting. I said, Okay, I don't know. 122 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: You know, when you say meeting, you mean like a date. 123 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: Well, it was like I said, I don't want to date. 124 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: Wait, but he said wait because he will relate to this. 125 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: He didn't want to meet a blonde actress. 126 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, you know how well I can't. I really 127 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: can't blame you, I know. 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: But you know I had Anyhow, we ended up arranging 129 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: for a lunch meeting. I thought, lunch is safe, you know, 130 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: coffee even better, but you know. 131 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I might have to go because things aren't working out. 132 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 5: Well. 133 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: There were five of us at this lunch, and uh, 134 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: the only person I could see was Kim, and I 135 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: was locked in with her and we we just kind 136 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: of we connected on multiple levels. And it's funny because 137 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: the other folks said it was weird. 138 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 5: You know, It's like we weren't even in the room. 139 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. I love that. So you guys 140 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: had instant feelings right away. 141 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: Did well? 142 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: You did too, Kim? I love that. 143 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 144 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: And Jenny, here's a picture. I don't know if you 145 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: can see it very well. That is our wedding picture. 146 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you clean up so nicely. 147 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: Thank you it was no idea where he just came from. 148 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah. 149 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 4: So I was supposed to go home the next day, 150 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: and I ended up extending my stay a few days 151 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: and Kim was I was able to take her to dinner, 152 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: and then we actually went to the big show, the 153 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: Christmas Pageant, which is sort of the City of Angels 154 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: Christmas concert, and with my son and his three kids. 155 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: So I brought her right into introducing her to the 156 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: family right off the bat. Okay, if she can handle 157 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 4: this crowd, you know, it'd be great, and she did. 158 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 4: They all fell in love with her, and so did I. 159 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Was there anything that held you back from sort of 160 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: going that quickly or were you both like just let's go. 161 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: You know when you get a certain age, Yeah, it's 162 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: like waiting for I don't have any I don't always 163 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: say yeah. And you get to a point, especially when 164 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: you've experienced laws, Uh, you realize just how precious every 165 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: moment is. And and you know, so we met in December. 166 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 5: We were married in March. 167 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible, you guys sound like me and my husband. 168 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: We did it really fast. To Kim, what did you 169 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: think of him when you met him? What did you 170 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: think of him, you know. 171 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: I so Tim is the opposite of me as far 172 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: as social media, Jenny. So, you know, I was looking 173 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: up his Instagram. He didn't have one on Facebook, He's 174 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: not on it. I'm like, who is this guy? Like, 175 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 3: you know, everybody we. 176 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 2: Know is you know? And then I you know, did 177 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: you are? But I mean you have like two pictures 178 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: of your grandis. You know that's not being on Facebook. 179 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: I kind of like it. 180 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know I did too secretly. And 181 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: then I looked him up on the internet. And he's 182 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: very very u private, which I also love because my 183 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: life is so in front of the camera. And so 184 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: the minute I met him, I really did feel a spark. 185 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: And I don't know how to explain this, but I 186 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: met him and he exudes integrity and elegance and just 187 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: a kind of an interior strength that is very hard 188 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: to find in our town and in our business. 189 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Did you ever think that you would find love again? 190 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: I sure didn't. 191 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: I had Actually I had a very very unfortunate relationship 192 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: that was very short lived. 193 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: Oh, let's go into the gens dating before me, Jenny, 194 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: I really do want to. 195 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: I'm curious. 196 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: Let's talk about it and I thought this, you know, 197 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 4: this whole deal. 198 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 5: Isn't gonna work. 199 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to date anymore after that. 200 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: No, it's just not gonna work. And uh, you know 201 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: it wasn't like you know, I you know, I never 202 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: went to the thing, never regressed. Okay, It's just I 203 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 4: just got a dose of crazy, and I thought, I 204 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: don't need any more crazy. 205 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: You know, I don't need a lot of you know. 206 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm good. 207 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: You're done. 208 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good. My life is fine. You know. 209 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: I got my grandkids. I got my kids, they got 210 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 4: a great life. I got a nice place, you know, 211 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: you know, all this stuff, and every now and then 212 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: I go out in the woods and kind of played life. 213 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: And I don't know how you feel about what. I 214 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: hope you're not a peed a person, but I do. 215 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: Ended up I'd like to hunt so and you know, 216 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: so that's what I do. 217 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: So I'm wearing I'm wearing camouflage, Jenny, and I know 218 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: this is a podcast and you can't really but we 219 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: were just out in Pongo, which is an area where, 220 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: you know, kind of a small area. 221 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: You have head to toe camouflage. 222 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: I'm in head to toe camouflage. And you know me, 223 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: you know me, you know that I used a grade sport. 224 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 5: It's it's literally thirty degrees here, it is. 225 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: We were out in me. 226 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: The first time she's ever going with me to do this. Yeah, 227 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: and she actually had a good time until until the 228 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: sun went down there it's like, oh. 229 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 5: Get me out of here. 230 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: You're very brave, very brave. 231 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: You're right. 232 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: So you guys decided to get married after just three 233 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: months of dating, same exact story as my husband and me. 234 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Really yes, but were there people in your lives, like 235 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: your kids or anyone that was skeptical or did you 236 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: just get support from everyone? 237 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 5: My your kids were supported and that was what was 238 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 5: really great. 239 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know, I've got four, four daughters, and 240 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: I mean they're first of all, I mean, you know, 241 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: my my late wife was spectacular and they all loved dearly, 242 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: and you know they were like, oh, you know, I 243 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: don't know dad and this kind of stuff. But when 244 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: they met Cam, they just said, this is she's just 245 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: fabulous and she makes you happy. 246 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: And they wanted to bring to me happy. 247 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: They did they when they. 248 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: Saw the interaction between the two of us, and so 249 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: that whole dynamic. Uh, they're like, Dad, this is great. 250 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 4: You know, this is just great, and they're all love 251 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: whether all the grandkids think she's the greatest thing ever. 252 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: Ah, well, I have an only child son, Jenny, And 253 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: he said, Mom, are you crazy? What were you doing? 254 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: Are you out of your mind? Like what are you doing? 255 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: You know this man in Virginia, you've only known him, 256 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: what are you? 257 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: And so he was protective, you know, loving him, protective 258 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: once he met him, because we did have a whirlwind 259 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: romance and we would meet in different places and always 260 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: with chaperones. He'd always bring other couples with us, and 261 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: before we were married, and you know, Hunter didn't get 262 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: a chance to meet him. So when he did, that 263 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: was when he knew for sure. But you know, till 264 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: the very end he was like, Mom, are you sure? 265 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: Is this you know? And I understand he was protecting. 266 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeahed him to join me on a trip over New 267 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: Year's and so I called Hunter center. I just want 268 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: you to know I have nothing but honorable intentions towards 269 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: your mother, and I hope it's okay with you if. 270 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: She comes and joins me. 271 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: And I think he was a little surprised about that. 272 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: So it really was at Tim. 273 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: Fall, that was a little bit of a role reversal, right. 274 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: I like that though. So since you've both lost your spouses, 275 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: which I'm very sorry for you guys, what kind of 276 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: bond or foundation did that have for your new relationship together. 277 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: I think it was everything because we both came from 278 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: very strong, loving, solid marriages, so neither of us were 279 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: willing to settle for anything less. And I did tell Tim, 280 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: you know, I did go out on a few dates 281 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: with some girlfriends that would set me up with people 282 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: in our town. And you know, one of the first 283 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: red flags would be I would sit down with a 284 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: man and we would ask, you know, about our backgrounds 285 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: and he would say, oh, my ex wife she is 286 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: such a witch. You can't believe, I mean, And right 287 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: away I knew we didn't have anything in common. 288 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: That's a red flag. 289 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. And not to say anything negative about folks who've 290 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: been divorced, because there are a lot of reasons they do. 291 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: But true, people who've been divorced have some scars, and 292 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: they uh and they bring some baggage. And not that 293 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: we we don't, we don't, but but there's a there's 294 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: a trust factor that is may not it's just different. 295 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying what it's good or bad, but 296 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: it's different. And I think that there are a lot 297 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: of data that shows that people who have lost spouses, 298 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: as opposed to people who have have been been separate. 299 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: Or divorced, are. 300 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: First of all, much more eager to be remarried and 301 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: uh and much more willing to trust people. 302 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: And that's certainly our case. 303 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: I had a very very happy marriage, and I'd like 304 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 4: being married, so he did, and I kind of I 305 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: hope that maybe God will give me a chance to 306 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: do it again, and he did. 307 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: So here we are and he did, and he did. 308 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: A lucky guy you are. How do you How does 309 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: marriage in chapter two look or feel different than chapter one? 310 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have different values or things that 311 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: are important to you more important to you the second 312 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: time around? 313 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: Well, you said this to me a couple of times, 314 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: and he said, and I don't think this is the case. 315 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: But for both of us, anything that we did do 316 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: in our first marriage is like, for instance, when you're 317 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: married twenty seven years or forty seven years, Oh, thirty 318 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: seven for me, forty seven for him. 319 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: You know, there becomes. 320 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 5: You're only thirty seven years. 321 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: Thank you? 322 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Jenny, we're one of those Appalachian places where 323 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: you get married. 324 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: Ten years old. 325 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Look, you two are so adorable. I can't take it. 326 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: But you know what we said is that after many 327 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: many years, and you may have found this too. 328 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you take your spouse for granted, or 329 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: you may not say, oh my god, you're so why 330 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: are you so cute? 331 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 3: You know, it's been so many years, and I think 332 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: we both feel like, you know what, we're going to 333 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: do that all the time with each other. Every we 334 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: realize how fragile life is now and we don't have 335 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: that many years. We have less years to be together. 336 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 5: My kids like that, what happened to You're so nice? 337 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm a happy man. That's what Leve will 338 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: do to right. 339 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 4: But it's I think there's a situation where you get 340 00:18:54,359 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: to the point where, because you've had laws, you this 341 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 4: whole deal becomes a you just appreciate it. You appreciate 342 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 4: the new, the new thing and you and you uh, 343 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 4: and so. 344 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 5: You know that. 345 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: I think you know, when you when you've go with 346 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 4: somebody as long as both of us were, you know, 347 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: there are patterns should develop. There's a little bit of 348 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: scar tissue that builds up because you know this, and 349 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 4: uh uh and so you don't ever want to take 350 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: anybody for granted, but sometimes you do a little bit. 351 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: And uh and that's the thing with me, I've learned. 352 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: You know, you can't take anything for granted. You can't 353 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: take any day for granted. You don't know what's gonna 354 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 4: happen tomorrow. And so we just want to be appreciative 355 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 4: of everything we have every day. Yeah, and beyond that, 356 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: we also want to express that appreciation to each other, 357 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 4: uh every day and uh uh you know, I think 358 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: you know, with my wonderful wife Lisa, I probably didn't 359 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: appreciate her as much as I should have. 360 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 5: I mean, she knew I did. 361 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: I knew she did, but we were now a lot 362 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: more vital about it. 363 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: And so you know, it's a good thing. 364 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really a beautiful thing, actually new when you 365 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: really understand the value of what you are blessed to 366 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: have in your life, you know, and like you said, 367 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: you don't take it for granted. Kim. You I know 368 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: you were diagnosed with breads cancer. How old were you 369 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: at that time? 370 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: It was eight years ago and I'm sixty six today. 371 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: Okay, not that long ago, not that long. 372 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: Ago, but eight years completely cancer free and clean and healthy, 373 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: and yeah, it was. 374 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: It was quite the journey. 375 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: Do you think that changed your perspective on life? Because 376 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: you had lost your first husband, now you have breast cancer, 377 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: you're fighting, you're battling breast cancer. And then how long 378 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: have you all been married? Since twenty twenty five? 379 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: Ye? 380 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not quite a year yet. 381 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. So you but you were battling 382 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: this on your own. 383 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: Uh huh? 384 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: I was, and I think it changes you. You know, 385 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: it was hard for me because after I had gone 386 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: through so I was doing beauty, as we talked about 387 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: before we came on the air on the Ellen Show, 388 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: and I had none. I had lost all my hair, 389 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: I lost my eyebrows, my eyelashes, I was green in 390 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: my skin tone. And I had lost seventeen pounds in 391 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: about six weeks because of the drugs. 392 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: So I'm here, I'm talking about beauty and you know, 393 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't have any And. 394 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: It was very difficult to go on and talk about 395 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: surface things when you're going through such a depth of 396 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 3: fighting for your life. And I do think it changed 397 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: me a lot after that because I really did want 398 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: to make a difference, and I wanted to have a deeper, 399 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: richer purpose, And after Jerry's passing, I did pray for 400 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: that and I really believe that this man right here 401 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: is the answer to that. 402 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: And he just was. You know, he has such a 403 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: great purpose in his life. 404 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: He lives his life in such a way of giving 405 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: back to others and doing enormous charity and philanthropic work. 406 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: He goes to Africa and Tanzania. 407 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: We went for our honeymoon to Tanzania and we were 408 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: with the Massai people and there are a group of 409 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: people that have no internet, don't want to do anything 410 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 3: regarding you know, computers, and it was really so refreshing 411 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: and it was what I had really wanted and prayed 412 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: for after going through cancer, to have a deeper me 413 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 3: and do more with my life. 414 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: I can imagine it became less fulfilling to talk about 415 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: that superficial beauty stuff. Yeah, at that point, do you 416 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: think you'll ever return to that space or are you still? 417 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Are you back in that space? I mean, you are beautiful. 418 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're what. 419 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 4: Is that story you like to her? 420 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: Brandy All? No, yeah, I mean, never. 421 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: Mind you never mind, you know what, I think that you. 422 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: Should see the amount of brush as she has in 423 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: her I mean. 424 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: Understand, it takes a lot of work, Tim Do you. 425 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 2: Think this just happened right? 426 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: No, But honestly, we are in the process of writing 427 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 3: a book about our story and about loss and grief 428 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: and age and to never get up hope and that 429 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 3: love is always right around the corner, no matter how 430 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: old you are, and it's really going to be a 431 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 3: beautiful story. But by the same token, I know that 432 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 3: people do know me from the beauty space, and I 433 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: think talking about beauty and keeping yourself looking your very 434 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: best is really important too. 435 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: For sure. It's self care. It's it's very important how 436 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: we take care of ourselves, how we want to show 437 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: up in the world and for the people that we 438 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: love around us. 439 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: Exactly. 440 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm never going to get I wanted to 441 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: get us raid. 442 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: Yet would you not look better with us? 443 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 4: Right? Yet? 444 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: Everybody does look better. 445 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: That? 446 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: Okay? You know what I backt that, I'm okay, sorry, sorry, 447 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: maybe he'll let you put lotion. 448 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: Bronzer. O. 449 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: Lord, Well, I have to say, it wasn't you know, 450 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: all for nothing? I told you before we were on 451 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: the air that you brought me so many giggles whenever 452 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: I saw you in any segment, whether it was on 453 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: the news or on eleanor wherever it was. So your 454 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: work was important. Thank you in just a different way. 455 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: And I love that you're focusing now and writing this 456 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: book together, and I think that readers are really going 457 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: to love it. Have you titled it yet? 458 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: Well, we have a working title, Love After Loss and 459 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: you know, but then we're going to have a little 460 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 3: bit more and yeah, I think it's important that we 461 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: share our story with others and that people do see that, 462 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: you know, there is life after terrible loss and grief 463 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: and whatever your loss is, if it's the loss of 464 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: a home with the fires that we've been akin to 465 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, or a job or God forbid, a child, 466 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: or a marriage, you know, or even your breast, whatever 467 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: it is, you can overcome it. 468 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: And our faith was our foundation. 469 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: Are you living in Los Angeles and Virginia now? 470 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 5: Yes? 471 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: Okay by coastal almost? Yeah, this is great. How do 472 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: you both or do you both still honor or? I 473 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: guess think about visit whatever it is for you your 474 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: late husband and wife. Do you do that separately. Do 475 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: you do that together? 476 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we just went through Christmas, and one 477 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: of the things that we did. Tim's late wife passed 478 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: away around the Christmas season, which made it extra hard. 479 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: And we were putting up the Christmas tree and we 480 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: were doing it together, and he came across a box 481 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: of ornaments and one was a beautiful ornament that had 482 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: Lisa's name on it and had been made for her. 483 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: And he so sweetly said, you know, this was an 484 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: ornament that was recently to Lisa, and I don't want 485 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: to make you feel uncomfortable at all, so I'm going 486 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: to put it back away and keep it. 487 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: And I said, let's not. 488 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 3: Let's open it back up and let's put it on 489 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: the center of the tree. Because first off, this is 490 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: she built this family with Tim, and they built the 491 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: five children and the beautiful home. And I feel and 492 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: I really mean this. I know it sounds all, you know, 493 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: cheesy or whatever, but I feel privileged to be a 494 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: part of this family that Tim and Lisa built and 495 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: these beautiful children. And I want her always to have 496 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: a place of prominence in our lives. 497 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: I really do. 498 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 3: And she made him happy for forty seven years, so 499 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 3: I want to always thank her. 500 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: That's so beautiful, not really God really. 501 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: And the same with Jerry, and so you know, because Hunter, 502 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 4: you know, he's his dad, right, and so it's very important. Yeah, 503 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 4: you know, you still forget on, but you know, at 504 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: the same time, we're building a new life together. 505 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: So you know, it's you know, we just we just 506 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 5: kind of deal with it. 507 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say to anyone listening out there 508 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: right now who is grieving the loss of a spouse 509 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: and thinks that there is no future for them as 510 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: far as another relationship or another love of their life. 511 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 4: I would say it's hard, but I was able to 512 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: bounce back, maybe a little more quickly than a lot 513 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 4: of people. And in my case, I was really pretty 514 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 4: pretty devastated because right to the very end, you asked 515 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: Kim the question, you. 516 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: Know, did Jerry say it's okay, you know, find somebody later. 517 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: We never had that conversation because right to literally the 518 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: day Lisa passed away, she was still doing the chemo 519 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: treatment and. 520 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 5: We were thinking she's going to get through it. 521 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: So we never had a discussion about while I'm going 522 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 4: goodbye kind of thing. And uh, you know, because she 523 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: I read to the very end. It was like, no, 524 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 4: you're not going anywhere, so uh and so I was 525 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 4: pretty devastated. And I also was kind of like, what's 526 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: the deal here? 527 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 5: You know? 528 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: And I mean I've been a very strong Christian literally 529 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: all my life, but I was sort of like question. 530 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: Well, gud, why where did you take her? 531 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: I mean, we we just got to a point where 532 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: we're having sort of fun, you know, and you know, 533 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 4: we we we there're a lot of trips together, we 534 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: you know, we you know, fair the exotic stuff, and 535 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 4: it was really a lot of fun and we're having 536 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: a great time. 537 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 5: And now she's gone. I'm on, you know, well I'm 538 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 5: not by myself my family, but they're not here. 539 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 6: And and I I began a much more intense study 540 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 6: of the Bible than I had up to that point, 541 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 6: and I really started reading through the songs. 542 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 5: And I read through the songs. 543 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 4: And it's it's almost like I suddenly had this phone 544 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: called a revelation. 545 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: That's a little too strong. 546 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: But I realized that grief had to was fine, you 547 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: have to grieve. But then I began to really appreciate 548 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 4: the life we had had, and the grief really moved 549 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: over and became joy, because I really began to become 550 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 4: more and more thankful for what we had experienced together, 551 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 4: and that was more important to me than feeling sorry 552 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 4: for myself. 553 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: It's gone when they say that, Yes, the gratitude is 554 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: what moves you forward, It really is. 555 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 4: And that's so that was a huge thing for me. 556 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 5: And as I moved into. 557 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: The sort of the gratitude stage, it just was able 558 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: to make me open to sort of a home new 559 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 4: series of things. 560 00:30:53,120 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: And you know, she does that to me, You got seriously. 561 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 5: That's not a pot belly, but you know, it's so funny. 562 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: But you know, you know, well, I mean that's for 563 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: other people. I would say the same thing. You look 564 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 4: back on it and and start focusing on the good. 565 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 7: Stuff and the fun and the joy and and just 566 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 7: be thankful for what you had, because you know a 567 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 7: lot of people never even get that. 568 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: That's right. 569 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 4: And so if you if you look back and say, yeah, God, 570 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 4: you know, you gave me this great time with with 571 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: whomever it is, uh, and and thank you for it, 572 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: it gives you the ability to sort of move on. 573 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 4: And you know, and I realized I needed to move on. So, 574 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 4: you know, I had a couple of false stars. 575 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: But that's shall we go back there? Let's go back there. 576 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he wants to. He's like I like 577 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: you too, are just horrible. I'm beyond happy for you. 578 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: Thank you both so much for coming on to share 579 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: your love story and why you should never give up 580 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: on finding love at any age or any stage of life. 581 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: That's right, Absolutely, that's our motto and we want to 582 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: share that. 583 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: So just never give up. It's always around the. 584 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: Corner, beautiful. Thank you so much for hanging out with you. 585 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: I have wonderful Thank you, Thank you soon, Kim. 586 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: All right, any bye bye. 587 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: Do you have an I Do Part two story you 588 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: want to share? Call us or email us. All the 589 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: info is in the show notes. Follow us on socials. 590 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: Make sure to rate and review the podcast I Do 591 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: Part two an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is 592 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: the main objectives