WEBVTT - Extra Frosting with Special Guest Host Drew Lachey 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.240 This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bats and iHeartRadio podcast 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.240 What's going on Everybody? I'mrew Liche, a member of ninety 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:19.160 eight degrees, the Season two Dancing with the Stars Champion. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.000 It was only eighteen years ago, and I've done a 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.279 couple of Broadway shows. I have, you know, kind of 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.720 been on reality TV a little bit. And today I'm 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.720 hosting Frosted Tips, and I thought it would be only 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.199 appropriate if I interviewed the person who, back in nineteen 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:47.360 ninety six was responsible for giving me my first Frosted Tips. Yeah. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:52.440 She This is my beautiful wife, Leah Lasha. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.200 Thank you, Jill, thank you so much. Thank you. So. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:57.120 How you doing today? 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:57.840 I'm great. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.279 How are you? I'm doing great. I'm great. So I'm 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:01.640 going to ask you a couple of questions. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:03.480 I'm slightly terrified. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.600 Well, the reason I wanted to interview you today is 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:10.760 because there are certain times as married couples where you, 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.560 I'll say we, but married couples in general might not 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.840 necessarily be as open and honest with each other as 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.759 they possibly could be, and not necessarily in a negative way, 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.120 just more of a you know, maybe not give compliments 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.920 when compliments might be deserved or might not be like, oh, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.720 you know, that really does get on my nerves, you know, 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.720 you know those kind of things. So I thought I 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.440 might be able to take this opportunity to get you 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.680 on the record talking about how awesome I am. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.360 So this is why I'm here. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.320 That is the only reason is to feed my ego 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.440 and make me feel great about myself. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.320 You're not friend, I will be completely honest. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:57.720 I'm sure you will be. So let's just not daily diet. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:02.920 Let's just jump jump right into it. So what is 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.600 it that you remember about our meeting? How do you 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:07.680 how do you remember our meeting? 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.120 Like us? Yes? Like who else? 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.359 What do you remember about me and Lance's meeting? You 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:15.760 weren't there? 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:15.960 What? 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:16.320 No? 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.560 Me? Okay, well we were we were really young. I 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.480 mean so the first time I met you, I was 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.720 I was ten. We were ten? Yeah? 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:28.480 What grade? 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:29.880 Fifth grade? 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:30.320 Fifth grade? 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:30.520 Yeah? 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:31.000 Fifth grade? 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.080 Where I mean the the biggest visual that I have 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.120 is English class or that might have been seventh grade. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:42.799 I can't I don't remember. I do know that what 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:48.000 Drew may want some people to know he was a 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.840 new Kids on the Black fan and would which I 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.560 was to listen? That was my first concert. But he 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:02.080 was a skateboarder, and he would skate in his driveway 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.320 listening hang in talk. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.079 No, you weren't even that barely. You are telling a 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.720 story that Nick told me. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.960 Well, I mean I remember, I remember you skateboarding. I 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.120 remember you like running down the hallway with like, you know, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:18.120 your backpack on one. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.000 Shoulder, very dashingly handsome. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.800 Dashingly handsome. I mean like I have like bits and 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.160 pieces like memories from you know, ten eleven, twelve. But 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.280 then I think, I mean, I remember when we first 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.720 started dating, which was we were juniors in high school. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.520 Okay, so I'll lead you a little bit. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:40.720 Oh please lead me. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:42.240 I'll try and do it subtly. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:42.640 Okay. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.400 When when was the first time that we went out? 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:52.320 So terrified? But do you not remember? 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.960 I mean, that's what I'm saying, is like junior in 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:56.600 high school. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.960 No, the first time we went out. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.600 Oh, oh, are you're talking about when I dumped you? 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:08.720 No, that was time we went out. The first time 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.320 we went out. I was in the sixth grade. Okay, jeez, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.479 clearly not enough. So we were in the sixth grade, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.840 and we were we were both part of the Cincinnai 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.599 Ballet Nutcracker, right. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.039 And then I and then I broke up with you. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.560 Yeah, but it was more like so she was going 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.360 out on the road to be a part of a 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:36.120 touring production of a theater show, and she left town 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.440 in the sixth grade, and so it was it was 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.279 more like, you know what, I can't do a long 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.000 distance relationship. You know, I think it is his best 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.320 if we take a break. That that wasn't really like 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.120 a dump. That was really like a breakup. That was 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.360 more just like, you know, I'm gonna be gone for Yeah, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.960 you spread your wings, all spread mine and we'll see. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.760 You know, if you love something, let it go and 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.360 if it returns to you. It was meant to be 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.640 kind of thing. So then that was the sixth grade. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.680 Seventh grade, I banged up my knee and I was 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:10.479 on I was on crutches, and we had an in 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.920 school performance at the symphony. Like we were going to 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.640 go see the symphony, and I mean, you remember every 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.120 detail I do. And we were going to the symphony. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.640 And before we went to the symphony, I said, hey, Leah, 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.000 you want to go out with me? She said, sure, 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.480 left you that'd be great. You're dationally handsome. Why wouldn't 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.200 I want to go out to you? Yes, And then 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.000 when we came back from the symphony back to school 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.600 two hours later, she told me that she didn't want 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.479 to go out with me anymore. And she just told me. So, 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.120 do you remember that? Yes, So that was where the 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.159 first two times we went out. Then the third time 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.600 we went out after you know, like. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:48.520 I don't remember the third die. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.960 The third time we went out was wed juniors. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.039 I do remember that. Yeah, so if she remembers that one, 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.800 that's well, because that we were together. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:01.880 Yeah, you know, as the story goes. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.359 Yeah, So you know, then from junior year on, we've 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:11.440 been on many many journeys together and you know, seeing 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.800 the world, and I had two beautiful children, and you know, 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.919 now they're grown up and you're just gonna be stuck 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.120 with me all over. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.760 I like being stuck with the act, just the two 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:25.160 of us. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.680 All right. So so we started dating as juniors in 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.480 high school. You started, you know, you went to college. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:38.880 You quit college because you got hired, yes, as a 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:40.919 dancer by the Radio City Rockets. 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:41.320 Yes. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.840 At that point, do you remember what I was doing? 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.040 Yeah, you were working on an ambulance in New York 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:52.359 gold Stars. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.760 She remembers that she doesn't remember us going out, but 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:59.960 she remembers she remembers my job. All right, So when 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.960 once you started working for Radio City, and then I 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.960 started with driving the ambulance and I got the beep 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.880 on my beeper from Nick. He was in LA. I 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.840 was driving ambulance to New York. He beat me, and 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.880 I pulled the ambulance over. I went to a payper 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.960 and called him back and he said, hey, we're starting 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:24.080 this group. I want to join, And I said yes, 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.240 and I left New York where you were as well. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.160 What what was that thought process like for you? 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.360 Like, I mean I think I've always been a big dreamer, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.360 you know that. So for me at that age nineteen 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.800 twenty twenty one, I mean, the world is at your fingertips, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:45.720 So what an amazing opportunity. I mean I don't even 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.920 I don't even think the thought and it shouldn't really 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.640 when you're young, like that like cross your mind of 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.280 like oh man, this is a big jump, Like what 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.480 if it doesn't work, I say, go all in. So 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.280 I was thrilled. I was excited for you. I mean 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.960 I was I was clearly sad that we weren't going 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:07.320 to be this is what he wants. I was trying 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.680 every night. No, I was. Of course I was sad, 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:12.640 and we were long distance for years. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:13.440 But how sad? 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:19.360 So sad? Just one so so so so so. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:20.440 Sad, so sad. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.680 No, of course it's hard. And then we kind of 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.080 bounced from like coast to coast and I'd be working 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.640 in LA and you were in New York, and then 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:31.200 vice versa, and then you guys, we were in Asia all 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.400 the time. I feel like, so that was you know, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.079 that was a little crazy. But then we got married 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.600 really young, like now I will get that, and I'm like, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.840 I can't believe we I mean we were twenty four. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.840 Yeah, but yes, we were twenty four, but we had 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.360 already been together for eight years absolutely, so yeah, all right. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.000 So when I moved out to LA and I started, 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.760 you know, singing before we even got signed, did you 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.400 have any idea of kind of what you were like 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.040 signing up for? Like now, no, I does anybody? No, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.600 I mean I had no idea what I was signing 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:02.840 up for. 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.280 So no, and I and I say this all the time, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.880 like the world was the pop world. You know, boy 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.240 band and pop groups and all of that. I mean 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.720 it was. It was a wildly fun time and crazy. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.400 But I can't imagine, like I always think, like we 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:25.040 didn't have social media, we didn't have that added stress. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:30.320 So I just remember the time being fun. But you know, 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.360 did I like being on our honeymoon remember that? 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:35.199 Yeah? 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.640 And we had to come back like what like two 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.600 days early from our honeymoon. Yeah, because the guys had 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.200 a video that they needed to shoot. So I think 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.040 that it's, you know, it's a little give and take 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.760 when you're in the business. I mean, I think once 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.000 you get older, you can kind of, you know, be like, hey, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.600 I'm gonna set some boundaries. Now. Obviously when we started 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.680 having kids, there were a lot more boundaries that we set. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.360 But when you're young, you're kind of like you're jumping 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.000 at any opportunity, you know. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.840 Yeah. So once once things started happening, like once we 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.720 got signed, once single started coming out, once you know, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:18.480 people started adoring you. Adoring might be an understatement loving. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.920 I mean with the fact tat with the one year out, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:22.520 remember that. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:30.959 It's so cute, that's how it works. Still got it, folks. No, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.160 I mean like once once things start blowing up for us, 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:37.200 and and how did how did that affect. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.400 I mean, to be honest, as a as a young girl, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.559 it was hard. I mean it was hard. I'd be 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.800 lying if I said it wasn't hard. I mean, I 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.200 even though I mean it's crazy to see that. Like, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.800 I think we had a really good relationship, like in 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.640 those early stages, which I think again about all of 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.960 the things that were added onto our plate where the 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:05.800 relationship could have just crumbled right the long distance, the 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.360 the fans, the girls, all of that. But I mean 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.640 I had some nasty things said to me, and I 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.800 think sometimes, you know, in those early stages, I apologize 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.200 for those things. I'm just kidding, no, But I mean 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.360 I also think, like me, No, I think that the 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.560 guys I mean ninety eight obviously is family, and so 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.679 I feel like, you know, I always felt safe in 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.120 that bubble. But yeah, you have to you have to 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.120 have thick skin. I hate that term, but you do. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:36.800 I mean you do. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.280 You have to be able to kind of, you know, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:39.120 brush stuff off. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:40.400 But you have great skin. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.040 Thank you. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.280 You were dancing, you were performing, you were living your dream, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:50.240 and you were dancing for music videos and rockets and 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.839 radio sitting and all that stuff, and I was doing 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:58.920 my my very you know, sophisticated boy band dancing. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.920 It's sophisticated because I choreographed it. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:05.200 So yes, yes, So if you could put if you 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:10.600 could put your one of your other dance numbers from 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:16.840 your career on me and set it and set it 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:21.760 on me? Who are you laughing? Which one? Would it be? 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:23.200 Like? Anything? 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:24.280 Yes? 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.680 Okay, so definitely I would put you in a pair 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:31.959 of Laduca heels three inch I can do, and I 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.280 would have you do. I mean, name a combo that 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.000 that we do here at the studio. I would have 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:37.439 you do that. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.280 But oh, you have me to do one of these, 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.240 not even like back like I thought you were going 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.040 to throw it like. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.160 Oh no, I would have to do something now like 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.960 really current, throw yourself around on the floor, roll around, 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.559 kick your legs all that, because that would be we 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.120 should do that anyway, because that would be good. I 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.439 just want to see what it looks like. But I 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.200 also think if you're if you're talking back in the day, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.199 I would put you one hundred percent in a Rockuet 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.600 kick line all right. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.280 For the record, my leg would not go very high 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.840 you would you would be on the end. I fully, 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.199 fully yes, because the short so it's especially the same 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.160 because I'm short, i'd. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:15.400 Be on the end. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:19.480 I mean i'm too, but I will say that because 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.680 of my army experience, I can hold I can hold 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:28.920 a formation. I can I can if I can do 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.160 it in combat boots, I can do it in eels. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.840 Come on, I feel like we're going to need to 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.320 try this, Okay, Okay, Well, that would be the challenge 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:38.720 I would have, because I think a lot of people 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.880 don't understand how incredibly difficult it is to work in 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:43.680 that line like that. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.440 It's hard on shoulder to shoulder. I got this, gotta 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:54.960 use your peripher roll legs ninety oh, then higher, and 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.679 I know what that foot would look like. It would 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:03.239 probably be sickle turn it. It's okay, it would work out. Okay. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.920 Now there's some people that will kind of say, all right, 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.360 you guys have had kind of like this this storybook, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.720 you know, romance, and my response that would be like, yeah, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.240 she's married to me. Of course it's been fantastic for her. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.760 I mean people might even say it's like a movie, 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.600 like made for like movies, you know, the high school 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.680 sweetheart stuff, the boy that did good. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.400 The boy that. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.240 You know what I'm saying. All right, So if they 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:41.080 made a movie about us, who do you think would 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:46.040 play you? And in return? And in return, but even 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.840 more importantly, which dashing leading man would play me? 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.400 And it's like our life story. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.800 I mean, you can pick an era, you know. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.160 The Okay, Well, I mean I don't know. I honestly 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:08.080 never really thought thought about this, but I'm I'm kind 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.640 of I'm I'm obsessed with Pink, you know that, So 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.120 I can only hope that I'm as much of a 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.800 badass as she is. I also love Lady Gaga, so 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.000 that would be like right in there. So Pink, Lady Gaga, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.240 if you want to play me, that'd be fantastic. You. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.320 I don't. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:30.880 Who would you have play you? 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.000 I want to hear, actually kind of want to hear 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.240 what you think? 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:37.080 He'll be good? 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:38.240 All right? 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:43.600 So if mm hmm for somebody to play you, I 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.080 would say, like, like like a Rachel mcaddam's kind of 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.240 but like I think that's like, okay, I think that 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.120 would be a good fit. So after we were married 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.520 for a while and we were living in La We 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:02.720 lived in La for how long we started having a 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.160 family and you know, Dance with the Stars. It happened, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.320 and you know, I had already done Brent, and we 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.760 were like, all right, where's our where where's our life? Like, 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.520 what's our life? And we decided we were going to 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:20.680 move back here to Cincinnati, big back home. What do 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.280 you think was the main reason for you. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:32.160 To makeamily being part of a community, like I love 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:36.320 our I love our community here, And I think that 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.720 that was probably not that we didn't like have our 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:42.080 tribe of people from the industry that that we adore 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.680 and still miss, you know, not living close to But 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.680 I think I was pregnant with Hudson and Izzy was 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.400 three and a half and so so and who is 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:59.440 Izzy our oldest daughter who is now yeah, in in college. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.400 And then wis Hudson our son, our beloved son, who 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.120 was fourteen, our freshman in high school, freshman in high 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:11.280 school soccer and lacrosse player, which is crazy, No, I 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.080 think I think for me, we always said we were 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.960 super close to our grandparents, and it was weird to 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.239 even think about that we were going to be so 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.639 far and removed from them, and it was just going 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.200 to be kind of like oh here, you know, Grandma, 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:32.200 Grandpa visiting. You know, if we're lucky five times a year, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.600 you know, I mean, whatever it is holiday wise. So yeah, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.280 and I'm still like, I'm very very happy that we 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:40.080 made that decision. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.920 And once we moved back to Cincinnati, you know things 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.680 I'm not going to say, it was like, oh. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.919 No, it's a big, big decision, lots of adjustment. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.320 Yeah, and we took our time, we talked to people, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.040 we tried to figure it out loud. I you know, 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.160 every time I talked to Tumbrs around still, I'm like, hey, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.359 you're the reason I felt good moving back home, because 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.879 he was basically like, you can work from anywhere, you know, 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.159 you got to take care of your family and make 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:14.080 sure that your your family is the priority. So thanks Tom. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.720 And then on top of that, once we came back, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.320 we were always trying to like, all right, how do 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.560 we how do we make a difference in Cincinnati? How 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.400 do we make a change. How do we find out 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.360 who we are in this in this community? Because LA 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.560 and Cincinnati they might sound like they're very very similar, 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.960 you know, but there there there are some differences. Feel 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.920 other than Cincinnati losing to LA in the Super Bowl, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.960 which I'm still we can't talk about. I'm still bitter 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.399 about I can't talk about that. Yeah, So you know, 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.560 we moved back, we started Lache Arts, which is our 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:54.480 nonprofit which has been going for twelve plus years. Now, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.600 what type of change and difference do you feel like 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.959 that has made in our lives? 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.280 Well, I think that I think the biggest change like 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.000 when you start out to do something like that and 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.480 just what you said like a like a give back mentality, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.359 and it was more of like us getting involved with 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.120 the performing arts high school that you know, we graduated 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.359 from Nick and Justin graduated from and you know, it 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.439 starts like that and then all of a sudden you 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.400 realize that you're getting more than you could have ever 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.400 imagined out of something like this. And so I think 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.800 for us we kind of just not kind of we 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.000 still to this day pour our hearts and souls into 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:40.119 the share arts because we do we believe in this 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.480 next generation of artists. And so you know, when I 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.439 look back, I don't think that that's ultimately like I 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.320 didn't know at that time that that's what we would 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:55.920 be doing. So and then it's turned into our musical reveless. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:20:00.440 Yeah. So in twenty eighteen, as part of a Lache 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.560 Art's theater class, you know, we wrote we had our 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.800 students right down on pieces of paper ways that they 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.680 felt like they weren't being seen, or they weren't valued, 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.119 or they were discriminating against and we were just going 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.320 to drop them on the hat and shake them up 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.160 and honymously and have people pull them out and then 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.520 they were going to have to put themselves in someone 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:21.160 else's shoes. 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:22.640 Yeah, was empathy exercise. 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:27.880 Yeah, so from there, how did labels come out of 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:28.920 that exercise? 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.639 Well, again, it was one of those things where we 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.640 had no idea what would come of it. And then 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.080 as we were reading those pieces of paper and crying 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:44.000 and for like, for me personally, I can one percent 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.119 say that the one that I read about my uncle 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.120 says that I belong in the kitchen and that's where 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.919 women belong. Is where I said, I'm sorry, like this 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.879 is actually this is actually happening. So I felt like 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.199 I was maybe a little out of touch with what 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.360 was going on. And so I don't know, I well, 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.560 you know how I think I think art moves people. 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.679 I think we can you know, learn from it. And 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.879 grow from it. And I think from that, with the 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.879 permission of that first class, which was the first cast 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:22.120 of label lists in twenty eighteen, we started to create 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.480 a show. And even then it wasn't like we didn't 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.160 set out to be like, oh, we're going to we're 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:31.119 gonna build a musical right and then it and I 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.479 say this all the time too, like the best stuff 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.120 happens organically and naturally and it just it just happened 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:38.639 and it makes sense. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.480 Yeah. So in twenty eighteen, we had all covers. You know, 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:46.520 we had literally every every every song, every subject that 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.880 we were trying to tackle, we used a cover song 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.040 to try and highlight it. You know, we used like 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.919 a Rachel plattin fight song is like the closer, We 0:21:56.080 --> 0:22:00.920 used who Said by Selena go Man he was Beautiful 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.560 by Christina Aguilera, And you know, there's just a variety 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:09.480 of different of different songs since then, you know, we 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:15.320 went from you know, fourteen sixteen covers to seventeen songs, 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:21.560 but over sixty percent of them now our originals, so and. 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:26.640 Written by our friends that are songwriters in the industry. 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:28.800 So it's actually also really cool because we get to 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:29.719 work with our friends. 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.480 Yeah, So Jamie Jones from Off for One wrote a song. 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.359 Paul Duncan, who is a very good friend of ours, 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:43.480 very successful songwriter, written for Yeah. He wrote I don't 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.760 even know what the count is now or co wrote 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:50.680 with me many songs. Aaron Space, who is another friend 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:52.840 of ours, wrote a song, and we still have a 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.200 couple of covers in there. But how do you feel 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:59.440 like putting the original music into the show has has 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:01.320 changed the trajectory of it. 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:05.600 Oh, I mean the show, and the show has grown 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.480 immensely from that. So I feel like because when you 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:12.439 start to write your own material, then you're actually really 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:16.359 locking into that story you're telling. So it's so great 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.080 right to match it up with covers, and that's exciting 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.199 because people know the songs, and like you said, we 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:23.320 still have some covers in there. But I think when 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:28.400 you start writing those original pieces, you're really tapping into 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.679 those stories. So each cast member has a story in 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:40.200 the show, and it's a wide variety of everything from classism, bullying, racism, homophobia, 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:43.800 the list goes on mental health. And so I think 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:47.080 that when you're really truly listening to that person's story 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.080 or monologue, if you want to say in the show 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.720 and then it goes into that original song. There's nothing 0:23:53.760 --> 0:24:00.280 like it. 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.639 So as we go through all these different stories of 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.480 the cast, is there I mean, I know I have 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.320 ones that have that have hit me very, very hard. 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.680 Is there one one story that kind of stands out 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:26.040 to you as either like very moving or opened your eyes, 0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:28.280 brought you something. 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.639 I think that they I mean, I have to say this, 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.119 that they've They've all taught me lessons in different ways. 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:39.159 And each new cast member that comes in and you know, 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.479 tells their story and the show, you know, you you 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.040 start to look at the world differently, and that's the 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.120 whole point of the show, right is to put yourself 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:51.520 in their position and walk in their shoes. So obviously, 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:58.399 I I mean sexism self worth is huge for me 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:02.920 mental health. But I I think learning so much over 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:07.480 the years would be Alyssa's story. And Alyssa is in 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:14.200 a wheelchair and just really I think dives in to 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:18.880 her story of you know, see me for who I am. 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:23.439 I'm I'm I'm a person. But then the well I 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:27.080 adore her, but the day to day learning from her 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:31.560 in the rehearsal process of I mean, I was guilty 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:33.560 at the very beginning. And I will say, and this 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:35.480 is how you learn and grow of you know, people 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:39.840 are moving set pieces around and Alyssa said, what about me? 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.840 I can do that, and so it just kind of 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.479 it changes your mindset and it changes the way you know, 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.480 you view things. So I would say, I would say 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.400 Lissa's story, Yeah, yeah, I would agree she's a badast. 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:56.480 Yeah. I mean I think there's like I catch myself 0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.520 still like there's certain things that I think as society 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.800 we're all kind of still learning and you know, adjusting 0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:08.600 to and you know, saying all right, male cast members 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.240 or female cast members, and you know, so just being like, oh, 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.960 you know, making it more inclusive to you know, a 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.360 non binary or people that might not identify with one 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:25.160 or the other, or just male presenting female presenting pronouns, 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.480 being more aware of that, and. 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.200 Also just asking a question. I feel like I've learned 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.240 so much from the cast and this you know generation 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.359 of artists where they're just like, if you have a 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.040 question and you don't know how to address something, or 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:42.520 you don't know how to ask it, just calmly, just 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.439 just ask how how would you how would you like 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.439 me to address you. It's that simple. And I think 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:53.280 I think people when they start being fearful of things, right, 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.919 they shut down. And well, that's why I love the 0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.440 show is I feel like it brings topics to light 0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.760 in a very creative way and you leave the theater 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.520 going I can do that. I can, I can have 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.159 more empathy and it can be a better person. 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:13.040 Yeah, and I mean I think, yeah, there's definitely stories 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:18.000 that have hit me, you know, harder than others, but 0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.359 like just musically, like coming from like a song, a 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.840 song point of view, Clearly, the finale together is better. 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:29.440 I mean every time I he cries every time I do. 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.880 There's something about that song and when the cast comes 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.800 together and they sing it, there is such a sense 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:42.240 of community and love that it. Yeah, it makes me 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.879 cry every time. And I've seen the show hundreds and 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.280 I could, I could, I think about it hundreds and 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.160 hundreds of times. But then if I look at at 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.720 the you know, the show as a whole. I mean 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.120 you Are Seen, which is a song that kind of 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.439 that kind of goes with with a list of story. 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.679 I'm really proud of that one. I love the message 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.160 of that one. But there's the song Hands, which talks 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.240 about how you know, we're all making it's in our hands. 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.199 We have we have a choice, like we can, you know, 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.560 we have two options. And so that song to me always, 0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:19.720 you know, makes me makes me think and feel because musically, 0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:24.280 I feel like the arrangement is very beautiful and that 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.159 the lyrics are great, but I feel like just the 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:30.080 way the cast comes together and sings it together, that 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.560 one always always gets me emotional too. 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.679 I love hearing that you get emotional too from it, 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:40.480 because there's nothing better than, you know, working and giving 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.000 your heart and soul again to the writing and the 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.920 music and the choreography and then feeling super proud of it. 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.320 And when we were talking about songwriters, there's we love 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.680 you know one out and that's Yeah, a former student 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.600 of ours at Lache Arts who is an aspiring songwriter 0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.880 kind of a prodigy. We we were looking for a 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:06.880 song to replace Beautiful by Christian Aguilera in the show, 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:11.320 and we went to her and she was eighteen at 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:16.760 the time, senior in high school. And the whole tead, Yeah, 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.160 the whole song is about you know, self worth and 0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:20.640 when you look in the mirror, what do you see? 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.239 How do you feel? How do you feel about like 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.520 the pressures of you know, society and having to do 0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.120 with beauty and what is what is the right size? 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.960 What is the right number? What is you know? All 0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.360 that stuff? And she wrote a song that is so 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:41.160 moving and inspirational. Yeah, well, well, well beyond her years, 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.000 that song is so Yeah, so I hope she's as 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.760 proud of that song as she should be. All Right, 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.600 So we've been working on labels for over six years now. 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.640 Is there one moment that stands out to you as 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.840 like that is that is that moment of pride, that 0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:04.400 is where yeah, something something happened where you just one 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:06.640 I mean, yeah, what what is? What is that that 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:07.400 biggest moment? 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.800 I mean it's so hard to answer because again when 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.000 we started, never knew how much work. I mean, I 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.000 knew it would be hard, don't get me wrong, but 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.920 just all the ins and outs of like producing and 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.840 directing and choreographing and songs come in and out and 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:32.360 what works and what doesn't, and proud moments each each phase. 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.320 I'm proud because you know, catapultsy to the next level. 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:41.040 I think performing the show in New York and an 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:45.800 off Roaway theater in November was one of those moments 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.000 where deep down while I was crying and like hugging 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.200 our team, and you know, the audience just kind of 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.840 like leapt to their feet and there's nothing better than that, 0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.760 and the energy in that room was incredible. But to 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:03.040 have just that little tiny dream, little tiny tiny dream, 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.719 and then to push push, push, push, and then to 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.240 get it to that that point is I will remember 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:11.760 that moment for the rest of my life. 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:16.080 For me, there's you know, it was one moment during 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:21.560 one performance, and it was during the finale of this 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:26.880 last run Sinanta Plaus in the park and the finale 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.160 was going on, and it was getting like we were into 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:30.760 the It was in the bridge and then it was 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.160 building out of the bridge and and the whole cast 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:37.240 was coming forward, and this one lady that was kind 0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.560 of sitting like a little bit house left and I 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.320 was at the sound booth and and Leah was Leah 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:48.280 was right there too. This one lady literally just jumped 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:50.960 out of her seats mid song, like the song was 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.000 still going on, and she literally just stood up and 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:58.080 put her hands towards towards the cast, like giving all 0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.160 her love and energy back towards them. And then one 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:05.120 by one, the entire audience started popping up and literally 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.640 it was a standing ovation before the song song was 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.520 even over. Yeah, people were up out of their out 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.200 of their seats, like literally just giving so much love 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:20.720 and energy to the cast where it made me like like, 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.200 you're like, holy shit, and. 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:23.680 Then we I have to say this to you and 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:27.000 I have to interject that, like the cast is so 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:33.320 brave and courageous and so to see to see their 0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:37.360 reaction when something like that happens too. I mean we've 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:40.680 both been on stage as well, and so I can't 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:46.239 imagine what that is like to receive that. And then 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.120 I don't know if you remember that the one woman 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.640 jumped up and grabbed in a in a you know, 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.400 polite way. I was like, do we need security, but 0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.360 just was so moved needed to hug one of the 0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:03.440 cast members, I mean stage like so yeah during the show. 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.600 So I was like, oh, we might need to bring 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:10.760 in security out, but that or yeah, it's it's yeah, 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.680 like we said, so proud, it's amazing, all right. 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:17.680 So we just finished up a run at the playoffs 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.440 in the Park. We just did a showcase in New 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.640 York City at Chelsea Table on stage Yeah, we have 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.200 a couple of things this fall. We're starting to book 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:31.480 out dates for a spring of twenty twenty five. If 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.120 there is one thing I love this question. There's one 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:39.520 thing that you want LABELSS to do, to accomplish, to 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:43.840 to be a place that you wanted to be performed, Oh, 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:48.800 be performed, be performed? Yes, Like where where is that dream? 0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:50.120 What is that dream scenario? 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:51.480 World domination? 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.120 Okay, thank you, doctor Evil. 0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:01.840 I just believe in the message so much so I'm torn, 0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:03.400 And I know you're going to say one place. I 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.720 can't pick one place because the you know, Big Dream 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:10.279 obviously is Broadway. Why why wouldn't it be that would 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.680 be incredible to just have the show sit down in York. 0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:18.600 There's just that's just pure magic. But I also think 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.160 touring it is so important because the whole point of 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.640 the show is to get people to think outside of 0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.640 the box. So I think the best way to do 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.680 that is touring it all of the country, all over 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:34.759 the world, right, and then I and then third the 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:39.920 West End London. I would love that. I would love 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:44.280 love that so so so basically the answers everywhere. 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:45.920 So this is this is I think everybody's kind of 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.080 getting a glimpse into what I deal with on a 0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:52.040 daily basis. So I ask a fairly simple question like 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.520 where would you where do you see the show going? 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:55.680 That's not a simple question. 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:57.480 That's simple. 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.600 No, it's not because if I answer just one place, like, 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:02.879 that's not what I want. 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.879 But it basically becomes oh, we're just going to take 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.840 over the world. That that is what? That is? 0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:09.120 What? 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.520 Why not? I get? Yeah, So it's not just there's 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.279 never just a simple answer. And you know, people are 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.080 always asking, you know what what how do you guys 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:22.279 work together? So how do you how do you how 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:27.120 do you view our our our working relationship? 0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.080 Okay, so I do think that we I think we 0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:31.080 work well together. 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:36.440 Do you well, yes, no, I absolutely do. I think. 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:38.520 But you're like, how do how. 0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:39.000 Do I view it? 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.279 Like in in the process, in the room and the Yeah. 0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:48.279 Just so so everybody understands, we produce label less, we 0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.840 direct label less. We produce it together. We directed together. 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:59.560 I write most of the the monologues. We have a 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.799 couple other writers on it, but mostly me. You do 0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:07.440 all the choreography except for the racism section, which which 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:12.400 is my best friend. Yeah, we have multiple songwriters meeting 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:19.040 one of them. Then we also are the fundraisers, we 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.319 are the tech crew, We are whatever whatever has to 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:23.080 be done for the show. 0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:24.040 Now that's the story. 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:28.160 We we do it. So it's not just like, oh, 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.040 we go to the office together and you. 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:31.440 Know, it gets it gets stressful. 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:35.000 Is that you're saying, Yes, I'm just trying to let 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.359 everybody know that it's not just like this, oh one 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:41.200 of us is in sales and the other one's distribution. No, 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.480 it is like and it's also the time. 0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:48.360 We would be lying if we said that the time 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:52.040 we would be lying if we didn't say that. There 0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:53.200 were times that we were. 0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.160 Like like, right now. 0:36:56.600 --> 0:37:00.319 Well I can sell when you're mad, and Mike, one 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.560 of our cast members, says, it actually does a really 0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.080 great Yeah, we'll have. 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:07.600 To do it for you. 0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.239 But like when Drew gets mad when we were on 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.120 tour in the fall, and there were there were sometimes 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.680 that were very stressful getting the set up, you know, 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.319 in time and all that fun stuff, and you would 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.440 put your hands on your waist and just do the 0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.440 pacing during sound check and then the and then like 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.040 walk up stage and then do the I was like, 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.160 it's pissed, he's pissed, and so you have to, you know, 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.680 keep it calm, keep it gone. And then I got 0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.520 him a snack. It didn't help. 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:52.480 How simple minded am I? It's like it's like like 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.320 Mango from Blazing Saddles, Mango bad unless you give like Mongo. 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.200 Like well, diet cokes sometimes help. 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.560 Yeah, some times, but not always. 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.520 Pissed and rightfully, so you were pissed. 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.040 We don't even need to go into all that things 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:10.279 were happening. Yeah, yeah, But honestly, I feel like we 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:15.480 work well together because we there's a mutual respect for 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:19.319 each other's contributions and skill set and what we bring 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:23.160 to the table. But I think also we are complimentary 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:28.080 to each other in the way that we approach situations. 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:32.399 Like you are very much a big idea person. That's 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.839 why you were like, oh, what how do you want 0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.480 the show World Domination, Broadway, West End Boom. You know, 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:43.440 I am much more of a You're more macro in 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:47.799 your thinking like big, and I'm more micro, like, all right, 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.319 what are the fifteen steps that have to happen to 0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.600 get to you know this first this first goal? And 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.960 I feel like because we were not both just dreaming big, 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.480 I mean, yes, we are, but we're able to compliment 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.319 each other because if I was, if it was just 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.880 on me, I would just literally be so caught up 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.920 in all the little details just to get to the 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.040 next show that I couldn't be focusing on what the 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.359 long term goal is. And you we are more long 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.600 term goal and you know, so you know, some of 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:23.560 the details might not be quite as important, you know. 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.120 So I feel like because we're kind of ying and yang, 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:44.640 it works. So a lot of our cast members in 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:48.799 labels started off in the Lache Arts program, so we've 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.799 been working with them and training them. Clearly, now the 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.680 cast has expanded. We got people from literally all over 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:59.239 the globe at this point. But if you had to 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:04.480 give those young performers, those young cast members one bit 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:09.000 of advice for you know, kind of taking on this 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:14.120 industry and their life in this industry, what would be. 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.759 Again, I don't have just one answer, So I'll go 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.759 listen more. I mean, I think that's that's advice for 0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:25.040 myself too. I think when you when you listen, you 0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:30.400 you learn so much. But also to take every opportunity 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.920 you know and put your best foot forward so you know, 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:38.920 you never know how you leave one job, how it's 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:43.320 going to affect that next job because this industry is 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:49.239 so very small and we all know each other pretty much, 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.239 I mean, just right, I mean I think and then 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.640 and the third thing is, and I didn't do this 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.200 at nineteen or twenty because you know, it was probably 0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:05.239 too nervous or scared or whatever. But that networking matters, right, Yeah, 0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:06.160 I think. 0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:07.600 As long as you don't do it in a douchey way. 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.239 Yeah, yeah, not in it, not not in that. 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:09.600 God. 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:13.280 No, I just think that, like, you know, if you're 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.080 if you're in that work environment, you're doing not only 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.759 good work, but and you also treat people the way 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.160 you want to be treated, you know. I think I 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.040 think we've been lucky in that for the most part. 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.920 That you know, we have for the most part cast 0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.080 members that want to be in the room and want 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.080 to be a part of something that is, you know, 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:34.839 an original musical. Yeah. 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.760 I think for me it would be you know, don't 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:43.800 don't tie your own self worth two? Which what job? 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.040 Oh god, you're working, you know, I mean I think 0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:47.480 that's like. 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:49.960 That's what you do, that is what you do in 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:50.520 your twenties. 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.000 So let's be real, honestly, yeah. I mean I think 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.279 back in all the time, I was like, all right, 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.080 so you know it is you know Bastery and Sync 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.000 in US and you know, oh, they sold this many. 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.200 I'm like, oh man, we gotta we got to sell 0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.160 that many now. And then it's like all right, there's 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:05.879 there was that. And then if you didn't get there, 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.440 you're like, oh man, or if your song didn't go 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.719 number one, your song went you know, broke top ten, 0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.640 but you know somebody else it didn't. It didn't achieve 0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.279 what you would initially hope to would achieve, you know, 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:21.680 not carrying that that weight of like yeah, it just 0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:23.960 wasn't good enough, I'm not good enough, or you know, 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.600 take it one step further, like auditioning. You know, it's 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:32.520 there's so many different reasons why things can work or 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.160 not work. And so if you just train and you 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.359 work hard and you you do your best you can 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:42.640 in that room or whatever job, whatever job, interview, you know, 0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:47.520 if you don't get it, you you have to be 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.799 okay with all right, I did everything I could. It 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.520 just didn't work out this time. As opposed to carrying that. 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.640 Yes, that weight, I just think in your twenties, it's 0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:57.879 so hard to hear that. 0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:59.920 Well, I'm staying I'm still in my twenties. 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:05.000 M M. Yeah, yeah, you just reminded me of and 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.480 he I don't even know if he remembers saying this 0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.279 to us because it was years ago, but I say 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.879 it all the time Donald Baison when he said stay 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.719 in your lane, and at the time, I don't even 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:19.200 nobody was referencing, but I say it all the time. 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.000 I'm like, just stay in your line, just stay in 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.920 your line. Do you work on you right? 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.200 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I agree. 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.839 Mind your business. Now. 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.680 When we when we started this interview, I said, one 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.640 of the reasons why I wanted to interview you was 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:41.440 because there might be some some opportunity to get straight 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.920 no bs answers to to some things. 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:48.040 No, did I succeed? 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.160 No, not really. You kind of danced around a couple 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:57.400 of things. But there is there's one question that I'm 0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.600 kind of curious because we've been together for geez, how 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:05.120 long we've been married for twenty four years? Been together 0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:09.839 for well, it'll be twenty four it'll be twenty four years. Yeah, 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:11.959 we've been so that means we've been together for thirty 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:13.879 two years. 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.480 Good Lord, all mine together for seventy five years. 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:22.640 All right, now in those thirty two years, you know 0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.880 me fairly well. Is there is there anything? And I 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.960 know probably not, but is there anything I do that 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.120 just really annoys you? 0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:35.160 Like? 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.279 Is there is there one? Is there one thing? 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.200 That? There are two things that's like and you're not 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:40.959 going to say what? No, I get the two things 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:45.680 right now. The you know this, and so do all 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:52.239 the guys. Drew whistles and it is like I want 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:53.560 to claw his face off. 0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:57.320 I'm a really good whistler. I'm just I'm just saying no. 0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:01.560 See it actually makes me. I get so annoyed because 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:05.759 it's like a yodel whistle no like no, it's bad. 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.920 As Billy Joe. Billy Joe's got a whole intro. You know, 0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:10.480 it's all whistling, but it's. 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.399 Always in the car. He's also started to add this 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:17.040 weird like foot tap with the yodel. 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:18.760 You don't even know you do that with the yodel. 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:23.680 Yoda whistle whistle, yoda, a yoda whistle with a foot 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.960 a strong foot tap while we're driving. I literally I 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.480 want to I see red. So that's the first thing. 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:31.880 The other thing, and I bet you there are other 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.680 people out there that are in relationships with people and 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:39.879 they do this Drew somehow. It's always at night, will 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:45.759 take like his socks off and leave them right by 0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:50.239 the door of the bedroom. That is odd to me. 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.359 I'm like, can't you take those socks and put them 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.640 in the hamper? But I mean, I get on our 0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:58.960 son about that song. I don't put it in the hamper. 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.680 I don't understand. It's like and so in the morning, 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.719 I'm like, what are the socks for? Are they no? 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:04.919 No? 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:06.680 Are the sock are you can put them on again? 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:07.160 Like? 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:08.879 Are they're dirty? Or you can put them on again? 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:10.040 Are you saving them? No? 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:13.719 I probably wore the socks into the bedroom and as 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.560 opposed to walking like down back down to the hamper, 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.520 I just took them off there. Okay, So and in 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.520 the morning you walk past them and leave them. Well, 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.560 I was planning on coming back and getting them. I'm 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.799 sure just my eyes. It was dark in the room. 0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:30.680 I didn't see them. 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:32.600 This is not a one time occurrence. I'm this is 0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:36.480 this is easily three or four times a week, easily, 0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:38.200 And so I'm like, I just want to know. 0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:39.759 I don't know if I changed my socks three or 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:40.520 four times a week. 0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.640 So you take them off, you put them right there 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:46.880 by the door, you get in bed, you wake up 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.040 in the morning, you walk past them. So then when 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.719 I go back in the morning, because I always make 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.560 the bed every morning, I'm like, what do I do 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.640 with these? What I do with these socks? 0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:57.920 And what do you do with them? 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.480 Put him in the hamper? But why there it is? 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:03.960 You know what to do with it. I don't know. 0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:04.879 There it is. 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.799 They don't bother me, sitting right there bother me. I 0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.279 don't know. I don't know what to tell you. I 0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:15.080 don't know. And there there is one conversation that we've. 0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.640 Try and get the industry under the with the socks. 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.920 Damn you, Drew, you can't put your socks in the hamper. 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:30.000 Curse you to hell. No, We've had this conversation for 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:36.280 a long long time, and it's it's a common conversation 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.880 that a lot of married couples have. And you know, 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.920 it's the whole toilet seed thing. And so my I 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.120 get it. Why can't you put the toilet seat down? 0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:48.240 I get it. You don't feel like that's because because 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:54.239 the toilet seats always down. So my question is, if 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:58.400 it is up to me to always put the toilet 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:03.480 seat down when you're done, why can't you put it up? 0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:04.399 I'm not doing that? 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:05.560 Why not? 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.239 It's just it feels wrong. 0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:12.800 So if I'm saving saving you from from either having 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:17.040 to touch the toilet sea or not looking and falling 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:17.560 into the. 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.759 Toilet, but who's to say that if I do that 0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:21.560 and I put it up and get it ready for you, 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:22.879 how do I know that you're in the next one? 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:23.520 But what if it's not me? 0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:25.160 How do I know you're going to be the next one? 0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:26.640 But yet I still have to put the thing down. 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:28.520 You're ridiculous. 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:32.040 I'm just saying it. If it's a partnership, if it's 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:34.200 fifty to fifty, if I got to put it down, 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:35.359 why can't you put it up? 0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.000 I can get down with other things. But that to 0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:42.120 me just sounds I mean, I get what you're saying, 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:43.640 but it's not it's just not gonna happen. 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.560 See, it's not fair. This is this is not this 0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.520 is not right. But you love me, I do. I'd 0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:53.719 love you more if you put the toilet set up, 0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:59.279 all right. So, a lot of a lot of our 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:05.800 experiences in the industry have have kind of been around 0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:11.479 different reality shows, you know. So there was there was one. 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:15.719 There was one reality show that we were on, were on. 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:19.960 There was one that I was on dancing, you know. 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.640 There were been other ones that we participated in. Our 0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:27.920 families done a ton of them, you know. There was 0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:31.319 Nick and I did one about, you know, building a barn. Right, 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:37.040 So if you and I as a as a married couple, 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:44.960 we're competing on a reality show, which one do you 0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:45.520 think it would be? 0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:50.080 Can you do? Can you do the one you've done before? 0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.400 Because I feel like we'd crushed Dancing with the Stars? 0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:54.279 Okay? 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:55.600 Is that? Yeah? 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:59.120 Yeah, no, we we we would except for neither of 0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:01.440 us a ballroom dan, So we would just be like 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.239 doing us but we wouldn't be like, oh and doing 0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.680 the chowhaw, you know. It would be like, yeah, we 0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.239 would just be out there, you know, kicking ass and 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.440 taking names. Okay, but so a different way. Let's take 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.960 that one off the table. What is there another one? 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:21.040 I feel Okay, I love the like amazing race stuff, 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:23.759 but I know that I would be. 0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.960 So stressed out. Yeah I don't really. I do necessarily 0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:31.680 think like you're great at many things, almost everything. 0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:34.640 That would be good at that. I feel like I would. 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.640 I would be dirty. I would playing in the mud 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:39.239 and doing all that. 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:46.200 That kind of episode where they're walking through Madrid, like 0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:48.839 looking for a certain statue. Yeah, that's what I want 0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:49.040 to do. 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:50.839 Okay, I don't know. 0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:53.040 I like the traveling aspects and trying to figure out 0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.520 like what plane, what train, what right? Like that I 0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:56.600 think we would be good at. 0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:01.080 Yeah. So no, I don't want to no naked and afraid. 0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:10.400 Oh my god, no, please know that would no alone, No, 0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:13.400 that would be horrible. 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:15.400 Homestead Rescue we could do. 0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:17.280 Oh we do like Homestead Rescue. 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.560 I'd have to grow my mustache out more, you would, 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:20.360 I do? 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.200 You think that show's fascinating? But I don't know. That's 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:24.480 not like a it's not like competition. No, it's like 0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.520 just like helping build, which I think is pretty cool. Yeah. 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:33.120 So this year we are celebrating twenty four years of marriage, 0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:39.280 which means next year is twenty five. Now we're already 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.400 you know, talking about, Okay, what are we gonna do 0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.520 for our twenty fifth anniversary? It's a big one. But 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.799 if we look back in the past, is there one 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:51.800 Is there one date. 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.200 You're gonna say one again. I hate doing just. 0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:59.960 One trip or moment that you know, one one room, 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.880 antic moment that you can like, We've. 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:04.600 Had so many amazing trips. I don't know how to pick. 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.440 What is there one that is like your favorite, like 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:11.360 one scenario when setting one spot that you're. 0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.719 Likerew, life is about me. 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:14.319 That is why. 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:20.040 That's why I married him. Okay, so we are going 0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:23.120 to do something big twenty five. We will. We just 0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:23.799 have to plan that. 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:24.479 We have to plan. 0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:28.880 But I like when stuff is like loosely you know 0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:31.440 what I mean, like a loose plan, like loosely scripted, 0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:35.960 loosely scripted. And then I mean because I think because 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:38.160 we're always so busy and everything is so scheduled all 0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:42.000 the time that when something is just like hey, we 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:45.160 got the whole day, like when we were in Dublin 0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.360 comes to mind, like when it's like we only have 0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:50.759 nowhere to be, we have no schedule to keep and 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:53.680 what are we in Dubling for? Okay, we were there 0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:56.240 because he was working, but we were working. 0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.000 I was doing name that too, Yeah, and I competed 0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:05.200 against how from from Backstreet and I won. All right, 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:06.080 I'll continue with your. 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.480 Story, Okay, so. 0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:10.480 No. 0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.560 I mean, I just I like days where it's kind 0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.600 of like it just just kind of flows right. Like 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.680 one of our favorite dates, and I know it's not 0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:21.520 like this big, like you know, grandiose thing or travel thing, 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.239 because I don't think it needs to be is we 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:29.200 were downtown Cincinnati and it was snowing and it wasn't 0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:33.080 planned and we had we had like a staycation kind 0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:34.600 of thing planned downtown. 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.600 And it was Valentine's Day, I remember. 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:40.160 And one of our favorite restaurants here in Cincinnati Soto. 0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.479 You know, every nobody could get to the restaurant because 0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:46.080 it was like blizzard conditions, and so we were there 0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:47.720 and we just kind of like walked past the street 0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:49.640 and we had the whole place to ourselfs and we 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:52.439 just it's the it's the best restaurant. And we sat 0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:54.560 there and just had a nice bottle of wine and 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.839 good food and just like nowhere to be And I think, 0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:00.840 I don't know, connection like that is awesome. 0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:04.120 That was actually my favorite date that I was going 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.640 to say that you didn't know that I did, But 0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.160 it was just like that, like it was so romantic, 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:11.160 Like the city was so quiet, because anytime you're in 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:14.400 an urban area and it's snowing. It's just quiet. It's 0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:16.000 you know, you look up at the street lights you 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.680 see like the snow falling. And then it was literally 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.120 right across the street from like the hotel where we 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:24.120 were staying for our staycation, and we literally walked in 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:27.520 and this place is impossible to get into. It's always crowded, 0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:29.799 it's always packed. And we literally walked in there and 0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:32.279 there was like nobody in there and we just sat down. 0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.560 We sat at the bar and yeah, it was awesome. 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:37.000 We sat at the corner of the bar, so it 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.319 was like we were just sitting like this the whole time, 0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:42.960 just like eating and drinking and just relaxing and just 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.000 and nowhere to be and know where to be. Yeah, 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:47.040 it's the best. I think that, I think that would be. 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.440 So what we're I think what we're getting to summing 0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:52.080 it all up is the fact that we need to 0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:52.879 do more of that. 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:54.879 But that's laughing, more vacation. 0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:58.480 Because everything is so planned, not gonna happen for a second. 0:54:58.600 --> 0:54:59.440 But maybe we need. 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:02.160 To make it and we'll make it a priority. I'll 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.120 make it a party. All right. Well, I want to 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.440 say thank you for letting. 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.320 Me interview you. 0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:13.120 Thank you for for making your agent, you know, make 0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:19.080 this happen. Leah Lache and agent I. I hope that 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:23.839 the interview was as insightful and riveting for you as 0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:27.000 it was for me, and I wish you nothing but 0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:30.680 the best in the years to come, and with LABELSS 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:35.120 because it sounds fantastic and because I benefit from it 0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:41.319 as well. No, but I love you and uh yeah, 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:44.960 If any other time you need a guest host for 0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:50.719 Frosted Tips, you know where to find her. I have 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:55.239 a go on everybody. Hey, thanks for listening. Follow us 0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:58.480 on Instagram at frost the Tips with Lance and Michael 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.960 Turchin and it's best for all your pop culture needs. 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.200 And make sure to write his review and leave us 0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.640 five stars six if you can see you next time.