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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bats and iHeartRadio podcast

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Speaker 1: What's going on Everybody? I'mrew Liche, a member of ninety

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Speaker 1: eight degrees, the Season two Dancing with the Stars Champion.

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Speaker 1: It was only eighteen years ago, and I've done a

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Speaker 1: couple of Broadway shows. I have, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: been on reality TV a little bit. And today I'm

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Speaker 1: hosting Frosted Tips, and I thought it would be only

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Speaker 1: appropriate if I interviewed the person who, back in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety six was responsible for giving me my first Frosted Tips. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She This is my beautiful wife, Leah Lasha.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jill, thank you so much. Thank you. So.

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Speaker 1: How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm great.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing great. I'm great. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to ask you a couple of questions.

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Speaker 2: I'm slightly terrified.

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Speaker 1: Well, the reason I wanted to interview you today is

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Speaker 1: because there are certain times as married couples where you,

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Speaker 1: I'll say we, but married couples in general might not

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Speaker 1: necessarily be as open and honest with each other as

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Speaker 1: they possibly could be, and not necessarily in a negative way,

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Speaker 1: just more of a you know, maybe not give compliments

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Speaker 1: when compliments might be deserved or might not be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, that really does get on my nerves, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know those kind of things. So I thought I

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Speaker 1: might be able to take this opportunity to get you

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Speaker 1: on the record talking about how awesome I am.

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Speaker 2: So this is why I'm here.

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Speaker 1: That is the only reason is to feed my ego

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Speaker 1: and make me feel great about myself.

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Speaker 2: You're not friend, I will be completely honest.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you will be. So let's just not daily diet.

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Speaker 1: Let's just jump jump right into it. So what is

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Speaker 1: it that you remember about our meeting? How do you

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Speaker 1: how do you remember our meeting?

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Speaker 2: Like us? Yes? Like who else?

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about me and Lance's meeting? You

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Speaker 1: weren't there?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Me? Okay, well we were we were really young. I

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Speaker 2: mean so the first time I met you, I was

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Speaker 2: I was ten. We were ten? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What grade?

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Speaker 2: Fifth grade?

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Speaker 1: Fifth grade?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Fifth grade?

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Speaker 2: Where I mean the the biggest visual that I have

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Speaker 2: is English class or that might have been seventh grade.

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Speaker 2: I can't I don't remember. I do know that what

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Speaker 2: Drew may want some people to know he was a

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Speaker 2: new Kids on the Black fan and would which I

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Speaker 2: was to listen? That was my first concert. But he

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Speaker 2: was a skateboarder, and he would skate in his driveway

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Speaker 2: listening hang in talk.

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Speaker 1: No, you weren't even that barely. You are telling a

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Speaker 1: story that Nick told me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I remember, I remember you skateboarding. I

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Speaker 2: remember you like running down the hallway with like, you know,

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Speaker 2: your backpack on one.

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Speaker 1: Shoulder, very dashingly handsome.

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Speaker 2: Dashingly handsome. I mean like I have like bits and

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Speaker 2: pieces like memories from you know, ten eleven, twelve. But

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Speaker 2: then I think, I mean, I remember when we first

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Speaker 2: started dating, which was we were juniors in high school.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll lead you a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Oh please lead me.

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Speaker 1: I'll try and do it subtly.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: When when was the first time that we went out?

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Speaker 1: So terrified? But do you not remember?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I'm saying, is like junior in

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Speaker 2: high school.

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Speaker 1: No, the first time we went out.

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Speaker 2: Oh, oh, are you're talking about when I dumped you?

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Speaker 1: No, that was time we went out. The first time

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Speaker 1: we went out. I was in the sixth grade. Okay, jeez,

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Speaker 1: clearly not enough. So we were in the sixth grade,

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Speaker 1: and we were we were both part of the Cincinnai

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Speaker 1: Ballet Nutcracker, right.

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Speaker 2: And then I and then I broke up with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was more like so she was going

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Speaker 1: if we take a break. That that wasn't really like

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Speaker 1: more just like, you know, I'm gonna be gone for Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you spread your wings, all spread mine and we'll see.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you love something, let it go and

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Speaker 1: if it returns to you. It was meant to be

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. So then that was the sixth grade.

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Speaker 1: Seventh grade, I banged up my knee and I was

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Speaker 1: on I was on crutches, and we had an in

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Speaker 1: school performance at the symphony. Like we were going to

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Speaker 1: go see the symphony, and I mean, you remember every

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Speaker 1: detail I do. And we were going to the symphony.

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Speaker 1: And before we went to the symphony, I said, hey, Leah,

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Speaker 1: you want to go out with me? She said, sure,

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Speaker 1: left you that'd be great. You're dationally handsome. Why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: I want to go out to you? Yes, And then

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Speaker 1: do you remember that? Yes, So that was where the

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Speaker 1: first two times we went out. Then the third time

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the third die.

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Speaker 1: The third time we went out was wed juniors. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I do remember that. Yeah, so if she remembers that one,

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Speaker 1: that's well, because that we were together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as the story goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, then from junior year on, we've

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Speaker 1: been on many many journeys together and you know, seeing

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Speaker 2: I like being stuck with the act, just the two

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Speaker 1: All right. So so we started dating as juniors in

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Speaker 1: high school. You started, you know, you went to college.

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Speaker 1: You quit college because you got hired, yes, as a

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Speaker 1: dancer by the Radio City Rockets.

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Speaker 1: At that point, do you remember what I was doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were working on an ambulance in New York

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Speaker 1: She remembers that she doesn't remember us going out, but

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Speaker 1: she remembers she remembers my job. All right, So when

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Speaker 1: once you started working for Radio City, and then I

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Speaker 1: was driving ambulance to New York. He beat me, and

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Speaker 1: I pulled the ambulance over. I went to a payper

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Speaker 1: and called him back and he said, hey, we're starting

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Speaker 1: this group. I want to join, And I said yes,

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Speaker 1: and I left New York where you were as well.

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Speaker 1: What what was that thought process like for you?

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Speaker 2: Like, I mean I think I've always been a big dreamer,

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Speaker 2: you know that. So for me at that age nineteen

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Speaker 2: So what an amazing opportunity. I mean I don't even

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Speaker 2: I don't even think the thought and it shouldn't really

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Speaker 2: when you're young, like that like cross your mind of

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Speaker 2: like oh man, this is a big jump, Like what

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Speaker 2: if it doesn't work, I say, go all in. So

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Speaker 2: I was thrilled. I was excited for you. I mean

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Speaker 2: I was I was clearly sad that we weren't going

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Speaker 2: to be this is what he wants. I was trying

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Speaker 2: every night. No, I was. Of course I was sad,

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Speaker 2: and we were long distance for years.

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Speaker 1: But how sad?

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Speaker 2: So sad? Just one so so so so so.

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Speaker 2: No, of course it's hard. And then we kind of

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Speaker 2: bounced from like coast to coast and I'd be working

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Speaker 2: vice versa, and then you guys, we were in Asia all

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Speaker 2: that was a little crazy. But then we got married

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Speaker 2: I can't believe we I mean we were twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yes, we were twenty four, but we had

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Speaker 1: already been together for eight years absolutely, so yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: So when I moved out to LA and I started,

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Speaker 1: have any idea of kind of what you were like

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Speaker 1: signing up for? Like now, no, I does anybody? No,

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Speaker 1: I mean I had no idea what I was signing

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Speaker 2: So no, and I and I say this all the time,

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Speaker 2: But I can't imagine, like I always think, like we

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Speaker 2: So I just remember the time being fun. But you know,

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Speaker 2: did I like being on our honeymoon remember that?

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Speaker 2: And we had to come back like what like two

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Speaker 2: that it's, you know, it's a little give and take

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Speaker 2: But when you're young, you're kind of like you're jumping

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So once once things started happening, like once we

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Speaker 1: people started adoring you. Adoring might be an understatement loving.

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Speaker 2: I mean with the fact tat with the one year out,

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Speaker 1: It's so cute, that's how it works. Still got it, folks. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean like once once things start blowing up for us,

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Speaker 1: and and how did how did that affect.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, as a as a young girl,

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Speaker 2: it was hard. I mean it was hard. I'd be

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Speaker 2: even though I mean it's crazy to see that. Like,

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Speaker 2: I think we had a really good relationship, like in

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Speaker 2: those early stages, which I think again about all of

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Speaker 2: the things that were added onto our plate where the

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Speaker 2: relationship could have just crumbled right the long distance, the

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Speaker 2: the fans, the girls, all of that. But I mean

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Speaker 2: I had some nasty things said to me, and I

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Speaker 2: think sometimes, you know, in those early stages, I apologize

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Speaker 2: for those things. I'm just kidding, no, But I mean

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Speaker 2: I also think, like me, No, I think that the

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Speaker 2: guys I mean ninety eight obviously is family, and so

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Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, I always felt safe in

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Speaker 2: have thick skin. I hate that term, but you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean you do.

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Speaker 2: Written by our friends that are songwriters in the industry.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean the show, and the show has grown

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Speaker 2: because people know the songs, and like you said, we

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Speaker 2: those stories. So each cast member has a story in

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Speaker 1: to you as either like very moving or opened your eyes,

442
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: brought you something.

443
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: I think that they I mean, I have to say this,

444
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: that they've They've all taught me lessons in different ways.

445
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: And each new cast member that comes in and you know,

446
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 2: tells their story and the show, you know, you you

447
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: start to look at the world differently, and that's the

448
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: whole point of the show, right is to put yourself

449
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: in their position and walk in their shoes. So obviously,

450
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: I I mean sexism self worth is huge for me

451
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: mental health. But I I think learning so much over

452
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: the years would be Alyssa's story. And Alyssa is in

453
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: a wheelchair and just really I think dives in to

454
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: her story of you know, see me for who I am.

455
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm a person. But then the well I

456
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: adore her, but the day to day learning from her

457
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: in the rehearsal process of I mean, I was guilty

458
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: at the very beginning. And I will say, and this

459
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: is how you learn and grow of you know, people

460
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: are moving set pieces around and Alyssa said, what about me?

461
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: I can do that, and so it just kind of

462
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 2: it changes your mindset and it changes the way you know,

463
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: you view things. So I would say, I would say

464
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: Lissa's story, Yeah, yeah, I would agree she's a badast.

465
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I think there's like I catch myself

466
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: still like there's certain things that I think as society

467
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: we're all kind of still learning and you know, adjusting

468
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: to and you know, saying all right, male cast members

469
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: or female cast members, and you know, so just being like, oh,

470
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, making it more inclusive to you know, a

471
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: non binary or people that might not identify with one

472
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: or the other, or just male presenting female presenting pronouns,

473
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: being more aware of that, and.

474
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Speaker 2: Also just asking a question. I feel like I've learned

475
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: so much from the cast and this you know generation

476
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: of artists where they're just like, if you have a

477
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: question and you don't know how to address something, or

478
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: you don't know how to ask it, just calmly, just

479
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: just ask how how would you how would you like

480
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: me to address you. It's that simple. And I think

481
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: I think people when they start being fearful of things, right,

482
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: they shut down. And well, that's why I love the

483
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: show is I feel like it brings topics to light

484
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: in a very creative way and you leave the theater

485
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: going I can do that. I can, I can have

486
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: more empathy and it can be a better person.

487
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean I think, yeah, there's definitely stories

488
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: that have hit me, you know, harder than others, but

489
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: like just musically, like coming from like a song, a

490
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: song point of view, Clearly, the finale together is better.

491
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean every time I he cries every time I do.

492
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: There's something about that song and when the cast comes

493
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: together and they sing it, there is such a sense

494
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: of community and love that it. Yeah, it makes me

495
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: cry every time. And I've seen the show hundreds and

496
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: I could, I could, I think about it hundreds and

497
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: hundreds of times. But then if I look at at

498
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: the you know, the show as a whole. I mean

499
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: you Are Seen, which is a song that kind of

500
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: that kind of goes with with a list of story.

501
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of that one. I love the message

502
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: of that one. But there's the song Hands, which talks

503
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: about how you know, we're all making it's in our hands.

504
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: We have we have a choice, like we can, you know,

505
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: we have two options. And so that song to me always,

506
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, makes me makes me think and feel because musically,

507
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: I feel like the arrangement is very beautiful and that

508
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: the lyrics are great, but I feel like just the

509
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: way the cast comes together and sings it together, that

510
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: one always always gets me emotional too.

511
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: I love hearing that you get emotional too from it,

512
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: because there's nothing better than, you know, working and giving

513
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: your heart and soul again to the writing and the

514
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: music and the choreography and then feeling super proud of it.

515
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: And when we were talking about songwriters, there's we love

516
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: you know one out and that's Yeah, a former student

517
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: of ours at Lache Arts who is an aspiring songwriter

518
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: kind of a prodigy. We we were looking for a

519
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: song to replace Beautiful by Christian Aguilera in the show,

520
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: and we went to her and she was eighteen at

521
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: the time, senior in high school. And the whole tead, Yeah,

522
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: the whole song is about you know, self worth and

523
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: when you look in the mirror, what do you see?

524
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 1: How do you feel? How do you feel about like

525
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: the pressures of you know, society and having to do

526
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: with beauty and what is what is the right size?

527
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: What is the right number? What is you know? All

528
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: that stuff? And she wrote a song that is so

529
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: moving and inspirational. Yeah, well, well, well beyond her years,

530
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: that song is so Yeah, so I hope she's as

531
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: proud of that song as she should be. All Right,

532
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: So we've been working on labels for over six years now.

533
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Is there one moment that stands out to you as

534
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: like that is that is that moment of pride, that

535
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: is where yeah, something something happened where you just one

536
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, what what is? What is that that

537
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: biggest moment?

538
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: I mean it's so hard to answer because again when

539
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: we started, never knew how much work. I mean, I

540
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: knew it would be hard, don't get me wrong, but

541
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: just all the ins and outs of like producing and

542
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: directing and choreographing and songs come in and out and

543
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: what works and what doesn't, and proud moments each each phase.

544
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm proud because you know, catapultsy to the next level.

545
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: I think performing the show in New York and an

546
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: off Roaway theater in November was one of those moments

547
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: where deep down while I was crying and like hugging

548
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: our team, and you know, the audience just kind of

549
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: like leapt to their feet and there's nothing better than that,

550
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: and the energy in that room was incredible. But to

551
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: have just that little tiny dream, little tiny tiny dream,

552
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 2: and then to push push, push, push, and then to

553
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: get it to that that point is I will remember

554
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: that moment for the rest of my life.

555
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: For me, there's you know, it was one moment during

556
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: one performance, and it was during the finale of this

557
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: last run Sinanta Plaus in the park and the finale

558
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: was going on, and it was getting like we were into

559
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: the It was in the bridge and then it was

560
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: building out of the bridge and and the whole cast

561
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: was coming forward, and this one lady that was kind

562
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: of sitting like a little bit house left and I

563
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: was at the sound booth and and Leah was Leah

564
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: was right there too. This one lady literally just jumped

565
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: out of her seats mid song, like the song was

566
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: still going on, and she literally just stood up and

567
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: put her hands towards towards the cast, like giving all

568
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: her love and energy back towards them. And then one

569
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: by one, the entire audience started popping up and literally

570
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: it was a standing ovation before the song song was

571
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: even over. Yeah, people were up out of their out

572
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: of their seats, like literally just giving so much love

573
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: and energy to the cast where it made me like like,

574
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: you're like, holy shit, and.

575
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: Then we I have to say this to you and

576
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: I have to interject that, like the cast is so

577
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: brave and courageous and so to see to see their

578
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: reaction when something like that happens too. I mean we've

579
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: both been on stage as well, and so I can't

580
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 2: imagine what that is like to receive that. And then

581
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that the one woman

582
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: jumped up and grabbed in a in a you know,

583
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: polite way. I was like, do we need security, but

584
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: just was so moved needed to hug one of the

585
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: cast members, I mean stage like so yeah during the show.

586
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, we might need to bring

587
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: in security out, but that or yeah, it's it's yeah,

588
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: like we said, so proud, it's amazing, all right.

589
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: So we just finished up a run at the playoffs

590
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: in the Park. We just did a showcase in New

591
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: York City at Chelsea Table on stage Yeah, we have

592
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: a couple of things this fall. We're starting to book

593
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: out dates for a spring of twenty twenty five. If

594
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: there is one thing I love this question. There's one

595
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: thing that you want LABELSS to do, to accomplish, to

596
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: to be a place that you wanted to be performed, Oh,

597
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: be performed, be performed? Yes, Like where where is that dream?

598
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: What is that dream scenario?

599
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: World domination?

600
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, doctor Evil.

601
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: I just believe in the message so much so I'm torn,

602
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: And I know you're going to say one place. I

603
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: can't pick one place because the you know, Big Dream

604
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: obviously is Broadway. Why why wouldn't it be that would

605
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: be incredible to just have the show sit down in York.

606
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: There's just that's just pure magic. But I also think

607
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: touring it is so important because the whole point of

608
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: the show is to get people to think outside of

609
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: the box. So I think the best way to do

610
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: that is touring it all of the country, all over

611
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: the world, right, and then I and then third the

612
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: West End London. I would love that. I would love

613
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: love that so so so basically the answers everywhere.

614
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: So this is this is I think everybody's kind of

615
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: getting a glimpse into what I deal with on a

616
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: daily basis. So I ask a fairly simple question like

617
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: where would you where do you see the show going?

618
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: That's not a simple question.

619
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: That's simple.

620
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: No, it's not because if I answer just one place, like,

621
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: that's not what I want.

622
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: But it basically becomes oh, we're just going to take

623
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: over the world. That that is what? That is?

624
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: What?

625
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Why not? I get? Yeah, So it's not just there's

626
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: never just a simple answer. And you know, people are

627
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: always asking, you know what what how do you guys

628
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: work together? So how do you how do you how

629
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: do you view our our our working relationship?

630
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so I do think that we I think we

631
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: work well together.

632
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: Do you well, yes, no, I absolutely do. I think.

633
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: But you're like, how do how.

634
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: Do I view it?

635
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: Like in in the process, in the room and the Yeah.

636
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: Just so so everybody understands, we produce label less, we

637
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: direct label less. We produce it together. We directed together.

638
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I write most of the the monologues. We have a

639
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: couple other writers on it, but mostly me. You do

640
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: all the choreography except for the racism section, which which

641
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: is my best friend. Yeah, we have multiple songwriters meeting

642
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: one of them. Then we also are the fundraisers, we

643
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: are the tech crew, We are whatever whatever has to

644
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: be done for the show.

645
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: Now that's the story.

646
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: We we do it. So it's not just like, oh,

647
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: we go to the office together and you.

648
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: Know, it gets it gets stressful.

649
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Is that you're saying, Yes, I'm just trying to let

650
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: everybody know that it's not just like this, oh one

651
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: of us is in sales and the other one's distribution. No,

652
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: it is like and it's also the time.

653
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: We would be lying if we said that the time

654
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: we would be lying if we didn't say that. There

655
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: were times that we were.

656
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: Like like, right now.

657
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: Well I can sell when you're mad, and Mike, one

658
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: of our cast members, says, it actually does a really

659
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: great Yeah, we'll have.

660
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: To do it for you.

661
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: But like when Drew gets mad when we were on

662
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: tour in the fall, and there were there were sometimes

663
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: that were very stressful getting the set up, you know,

664
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: in time and all that fun stuff, and you would

665
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: put your hands on your waist and just do the

666
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: pacing during sound check and then the and then like

667
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: walk up stage and then do the I was like,

668
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: it's pissed, he's pissed, and so you have to, you know,

669
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: keep it calm, keep it gone. And then I got

670
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: him a snack. It didn't help.

671
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: How simple minded am I? It's like it's like like

672
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: Mango from Blazing Saddles, Mango bad unless you give like Mongo.

673
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: Like well, diet cokes sometimes help.

674
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, some times, but not always.

675
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: Pissed and rightfully, so you were pissed.

676
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: We don't even need to go into all that things

677
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: were happening. Yeah, yeah, But honestly, I feel like we

678
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: work well together because we there's a mutual respect for

679
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: each other's contributions and skill set and what we bring

680
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: to the table. But I think also we are complimentary

681
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: to each other in the way that we approach situations.

682
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: Like you are very much a big idea person. That's

683
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: why you were like, oh, what how do you want

684
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: the show World Domination, Broadway, West End Boom. You know,

685
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: I am much more of a You're more macro in

686
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: your thinking like big, and I'm more micro, like, all right,

687
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: what are the fifteen steps that have to happen to

688
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: get to you know this first this first goal? And

689
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: I feel like because we were not both just dreaming big,

690
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, we are, but we're able to compliment

691
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: each other because if I was, if it was just

692
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: on me, I would just literally be so caught up

693
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: in all the little details just to get to the

694
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: next show that I couldn't be focusing on what the

695
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: long term goal is. And you we are more long

696
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: term goal and you know, so you know, some of

697
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the details might not be quite as important, you know.

698
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: So I feel like because we're kind of ying and yang,

699
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: it works. So a lot of our cast members in

700
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: labels started off in the Lache Arts program, so we've

701
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: been working with them and training them. Clearly, now the

702
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: cast has expanded. We got people from literally all over

703
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: the globe at this point. But if you had to

704
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: give those young performers, those young cast members one bit

705
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: of advice for you know, kind of taking on this

706
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: industry and their life in this industry, what would be.

707
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: Again, I don't have just one answer, So I'll go

708
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: listen more. I mean, I think that's that's advice for

709
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: myself too. I think when you when you listen, you

710
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: you learn so much. But also to take every opportunity

711
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: you know and put your best foot forward so you know,

712
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: you never know how you leave one job, how it's

713
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: going to affect that next job because this industry is

714
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: so very small and we all know each other pretty much,

715
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: I mean, just right, I mean I think and then

716
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: and the third thing is, and I didn't do this

717
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: at nineteen or twenty because you know, it was probably

718
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: too nervous or scared or whatever. But that networking matters, right, Yeah,

719
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: I think.

720
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: As long as you don't do it in a douchey way.

721
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not in it, not not in that.

722
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: God.

723
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 2: No, I just think that, like, you know, if you're

724
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: if you're in that work environment, you're doing not only

725
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: good work, but and you also treat people the way

726
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: you want to be treated, you know. I think I

727
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: think we've been lucky in that for the most part.

728
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: That you know, we have for the most part cast

729
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: members that want to be in the room and want

730
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: to be a part of something that is, you know,

731
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: an original musical. Yeah.

732
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: I think for me it would be you know, don't

733
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: don't tie your own self worth two? Which what job?

734
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh god, you're working, you know, I mean I think

735
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: that's like.

736
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: That's what you do, that is what you do in

737
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: your twenties.

738
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: So let's be real, honestly, yeah. I mean I think

739
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: back in all the time, I was like, all right,

740
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: so you know it is you know Bastery and Sync

741
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: in US and you know, oh, they sold this many.

742
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, we gotta we got to sell

743
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: that many now. And then it's like all right, there's

744
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: there was that. And then if you didn't get there,

745
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, or if your song didn't go

746
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: number one, your song went you know, broke top ten,

747
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: but you know somebody else it didn't. It didn't achieve

748
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: what you would initially hope to would achieve, you know,

749
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: not carrying that that weight of like yeah, it just

750
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough, I'm not good enough, or you know,

751
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: take it one step further, like auditioning. You know, it's

752
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: there's so many different reasons why things can work or

753
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: not work. And so if you just train and you

754
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: work hard and you you do your best you can

755
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: in that room or whatever job, whatever job, interview, you know,

756
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: if you don't get it, you you have to be

757
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: okay with all right, I did everything I could. It

758
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: just didn't work out this time. As opposed to carrying that.

759
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: Yes, that weight, I just think in your twenties, it's

760
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: so hard to hear that.

761
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm staying I'm still in my twenties.

762
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: M M. Yeah, yeah, you just reminded me of and

763
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: he I don't even know if he remembers saying this

764
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: to us because it was years ago, but I say

765
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: it all the time Donald Baison when he said stay

766
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: in your lane, and at the time, I don't even

767
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: nobody was referencing, but I say it all the time.

768
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, just stay in your line, just stay in

769
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: your line. Do you work on you right?

770
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I agree.

771
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: Mind your business. Now.

772
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: When we when we started this interview, I said, one

773
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I wanted to interview you was

774
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: because there might be some some opportunity to get straight

775
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: no bs answers to to some things.

776
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: No, did I succeed?

777
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: No, not really. You kind of danced around a couple

778
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: of things. But there is there's one question that I'm

779
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: kind of curious because we've been together for geez, how

780
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: long we've been married for twenty four years? Been together

781
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: for well, it'll be twenty four it'll be twenty four years. Yeah,

782
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 1: we've been so that means we've been together for thirty

783
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: two years.

784
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: Good Lord, all mine together for seventy five years.

785
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: All right, now in those thirty two years, you know

786
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: me fairly well. Is there is there anything? And I

787
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: know probably not, but is there anything I do that

788
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: just really annoys you?

789
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: Like?

790
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: Is there is there one? Is there one thing?

791
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: That? There are two things that's like and you're not

792
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 2: going to say what? No, I get the two things

793
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: right now. The you know this, and so do all

794
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: the guys. Drew whistles and it is like I want

795
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: to claw his face off.

796
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm a really good whistler. I'm just I'm just saying no.

797
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: See it actually makes me. I get so annoyed because

798
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: it's like a yodel whistle no like no, it's bad.

799
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: As Billy Joe. Billy Joe's got a whole intro. You know,

800
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: it's all whistling, but it's.

801
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: Always in the car. He's also started to add this

802
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: weird like foot tap with the yodel.

803
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: You don't even know you do that with the yodel.

804
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: Yoda whistle whistle, yoda, a yoda whistle with a foot

805
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: a strong foot tap while we're driving. I literally I

806
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: want to I see red. So that's the first thing.

807
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: The other thing, and I bet you there are other

808
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: people out there that are in relationships with people and

809
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: they do this Drew somehow. It's always at night, will

810
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: take like his socks off and leave them right by

811
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: the door of the bedroom. That is odd to me.

812
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, can't you take those socks and put them

813
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: in the hamper? But I mean, I get on our

814
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: son about that song. I don't put it in the hamper.

815
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: I don't understand. It's like and so in the morning,

816
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are the socks for? Are they no?

817
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: No?

818
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: Are the sock are you can put them on again?

819
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Like?

820
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: Are they're dirty? Or you can put them on again?

821
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Are you saving them? No?

822
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: I probably wore the socks into the bedroom and as

823
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: opposed to walking like down back down to the hamper,

824
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: I just took them off there. Okay, So and in

825
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: the morning you walk past them and leave them. Well,

826
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: I was planning on coming back and getting them. I'm

827
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: sure just my eyes. It was dark in the room.

828
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see them.

829
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: This is not a one time occurrence. I'm this is

830
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: this is easily three or four times a week, easily,

831
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, I just want to know.

832
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if I changed my socks three or

833
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: four times a week.

834
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: So you take them off, you put them right there

835
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: by the door, you get in bed, you wake up

836
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: in the morning, you walk past them. So then when

837
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: I go back in the morning, because I always make

838
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: the bed every morning, I'm like, what do I do

839
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: with these? What I do with these socks?

840
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: And what do you do with them?

841
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: Put him in the hamper? But why there it is?

842
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: You know what to do with it. I don't know.

843
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: There it is.

844
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: They don't bother me, sitting right there bother me. I

845
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what to tell you. I

846
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: don't know. And there there is one conversation that we've.

847
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: Try and get the industry under the with the socks.

848
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: Damn you, Drew, you can't put your socks in the hamper.

849
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: Curse you to hell. No, We've had this conversation for

850
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: a long long time, and it's it's a common conversation

851
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: that a lot of married couples have. And you know,

852
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: it's the whole toilet seed thing. And so my I

853
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: get it. Why can't you put the toilet seat down?

854
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: I get it. You don't feel like that's because because

855
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: the toilet seats always down. So my question is, if

856
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: it is up to me to always put the toilet

857
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: seat down when you're done, why can't you put it up?

858
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that?

859
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: Why not?

860
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: It's just it feels wrong.

861
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: So if I'm saving saving you from from either having

862
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: to touch the toilet sea or not looking and falling

863
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: into the.

864
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: Toilet, but who's to say that if I do that

865
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: and I put it up and get it ready for you,

866
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: how do I know that you're in the next one?

867
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: But what if it's not me?

868
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: How do I know you're going to be the next one?

869
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: But yet I still have to put the thing down.

870
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: You're ridiculous.

871
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. If it's a partnership, if it's

872
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty, if I got to put it down,

873
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: why can't you put it up?

874
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: I can get down with other things. But that to

875
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: me just sounds I mean, I get what you're saying,

876
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: but it's not it's just not gonna happen.

877
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: See, it's not fair. This is this is not this

878
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: is not right. But you love me, I do. I'd

879
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: love you more if you put the toilet set up,

880
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: all right. So, a lot of a lot of our

881
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: experiences in the industry have have kind of been around

882
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 1: different reality shows, you know. So there was there was one.

883
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: There was one reality show that we were on, were on.

884
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: There was one that I was on dancing, you know.

885
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: There were been other ones that we participated in. Our

886
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: families done a ton of them, you know. There was

887
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: Nick and I did one about, you know, building a barn. Right,

888
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: So if you and I as a as a married couple,

889
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: we're competing on a reality show, which one do you

890
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: think it would be?

891
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: Can you do? Can you do the one you've done before?

892
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: Because I feel like we'd crushed Dancing with the Stars?

893
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Okay?

894
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah?

895
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we we we would except for neither of

896
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: us a ballroom dan, So we would just be like

897
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: doing us but we wouldn't be like, oh and doing

898
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: the chowhaw, you know. It would be like, yeah, we

899
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: would just be out there, you know, kicking ass and

900
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: taking names. Okay, but so a different way. Let's take

901
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: that one off the table. What is there another one?

902
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: I feel Okay, I love the like amazing race stuff,

903
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: but I know that I would be.

904
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: So stressed out. Yeah I don't really. I do necessarily

905
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: think like you're great at many things, almost everything.

906
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: That would be good at that. I feel like I would.

907
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: I would be dirty. I would playing in the mud

908
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: and doing all that.

909
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: That kind of episode where they're walking through Madrid, like

910
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: looking for a certain statue. Yeah, that's what I want

911
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: to do.

912
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.

913
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: I like the traveling aspects and trying to figure out

914
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: like what plane, what train, what right? Like that I

915
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: think we would be good at.

916
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So no, I don't want to no naked and afraid.

917
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, please know that would no alone, No,

918
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: that would be horrible.

919
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Homestead Rescue we could do.

920
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh we do like Homestead Rescue.

921
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: I'd have to grow my mustache out more, you would,

922
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: I do?

923
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: You think that show's fascinating? But I don't know. That's

924
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: not like a it's not like competition. No, it's like

925
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: just like helping build, which I think is pretty cool. Yeah.

926
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: So this year we are celebrating twenty four years of marriage,

927
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: which means next year is twenty five. Now we're already

928
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, talking about, Okay, what are we gonna do

929
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: for our twenty fifth anniversary? It's a big one. But

930
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: if we look back in the past, is there one

931
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: Is there one date.

932
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna say one again. I hate doing just.

933
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: One trip or moment that you know, one one room,

934
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: antic moment that you can like, We've.

935
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: Had so many amazing trips. I don't know how to pick.

936
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: What is there one that is like your favorite, like

937
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: one scenario when setting one spot that you're.

938
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: Likerew, life is about me.

939
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: That is why.

940
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: That's why I married him. Okay, so we are going

941
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: to do something big twenty five. We will. We just

942
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: have to plan that.

943
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: We have to plan.

944
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: But I like when stuff is like loosely you know

945
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: what I mean, like a loose plan, like loosely scripted,

946
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: loosely scripted. And then I mean because I think because

947
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: we're always so busy and everything is so scheduled all

948
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: the time that when something is just like hey, we

949
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: got the whole day, like when we were in Dublin

950
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: comes to mind, like when it's like we only have

951
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: nowhere to be, we have no schedule to keep and

952
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: what are we in Dubling for? Okay, we were there

953
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 2: because he was working, but we were working.

954
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: I was doing name that too, Yeah, and I competed

955
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: against how from from Backstreet and I won. All right,

956
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: I'll continue with your.

957
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: Story, Okay, so.

958
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: No.

959
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I like days where it's kind

960
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: of like it just just kind of flows right. Like

961
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: one of our favorite dates, and I know it's not

962
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: like this big, like you know, grandiose thing or travel thing,

963
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: because I don't think it needs to be is we

964
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: were downtown Cincinnati and it was snowing and it wasn't

965
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: planned and we had we had like a staycation kind

966
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: of thing planned downtown.

967
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: And it was Valentine's Day, I remember.

968
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: And one of our favorite restaurants here in Cincinnati Soto.

969
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 2: You know, every nobody could get to the restaurant because

970
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: it was like blizzard conditions, and so we were there

971
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: and we just kind of like walked past the street

972
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: and we had the whole place to ourselfs and we

973
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 2: just it's the it's the best restaurant. And we sat

974
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: there and just had a nice bottle of wine and

975
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: good food and just like nowhere to be And I think,

976
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, connection like that is awesome.

977
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: That was actually my favorite date that I was going

978
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: to say that you didn't know that I did, But

979
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: it was just like that, like it was so romantic,

980
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: Like the city was so quiet, because anytime you're in

981
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: an urban area and it's snowing. It's just quiet. It's

982
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, you look up at the street lights you

983
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: see like the snow falling. And then it was literally

984
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: right across the street from like the hotel where we

985
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: were staying for our staycation, and we literally walked in

986
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: and this place is impossible to get into. It's always crowded,

987
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: it's always packed. And we literally walked in there and

988
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: there was like nobody in there and we just sat down.

989
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: We sat at the bar and yeah, it was awesome.

990
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: We sat at the corner of the bar, so it

991
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: was like we were just sitting like this the whole time,

992
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: just like eating and drinking and just relaxing and just

993
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: and nowhere to be and know where to be. Yeah,

994
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: it's the best. I think that, I think that would be.

995
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: So what we're I think what we're getting to summing

996
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: it all up is the fact that we need to

997
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Speaker 2: do more of that.

998
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: But that's laughing, more vacation.

999
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: Because everything is so planned, not gonna happen for a second.

1000
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: But maybe we need.

1001
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Speaker 1: To make it and we'll make it a priority. I'll

1002
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Speaker 1: make it a party. All right. Well, I want to

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