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Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottli.

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Speaker 2: What a Dog Gotlim Show. Yeah, the bonus Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hi already up, Welcome in.

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Speaker 3: I really like Indiana Jones. And it's interesting when you

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Speaker 3: go back and you watch those movies, you have to

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Speaker 3: remember that there wasn't c g I then and so

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Speaker 3: as much as we lampoon, not Raiders of Lost arc.

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Speaker 2: But what's what's the second one?

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Speaker 4: Temple of Doom.

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Speaker 3: Temple of Doom. My Temple of Doom is kind of

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Speaker 3: clownish in comparison to the other two. Last Crusade is awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's got Sir Sean Connery. We named the dog Indiana.

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Speaker 3: And obviously the first one you have the arc of

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Speaker 3: the Covenant and the faces melting and again like you

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Speaker 3: have to look at it through the lens of almost

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Speaker 3: fifty years ago. But last Crusade, there's the you know,

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Speaker 3: the Knights of the Templar or whatever, and you get

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Speaker 3: the cup that Jesus supposedly drank out of. And the

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Speaker 3: first guy, he's too ambitious, he thought it was a

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Speaker 3: cup of gold, and he's like, you have chosen Polly, right,

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Speaker 3: And then he like.

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Speaker 2: Disappears in the dust. Sorry if this is a spoiler

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Speaker 3: The point is that there are some decisions that you make,

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Speaker 3: which I don't want to say there's death over, but

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Speaker 2: Some of it's not decisions.

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Speaker 3: I was on you know what do Wisconsin and Penn

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Speaker 3: programs that have fired their coaches that had disastrous seasons,

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Speaker 3: and they almost all have this one thing in common.

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Speaker 3: They lost their starting quarterback right before the coach got fired.

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Speaker 3: And because now in college athletics, you're really only gonna

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Speaker 3: pay for one that guy goes down and the backup,

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Speaker 3: Holy cow. And if you pay for two or three,

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Speaker 3: short at other key positions. But you know, by and large,

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Speaker 3: Greer gets fired with the Miami Dolphins. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: a lot of the pilavor we did on the radio

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Speaker 3: show as well, but to me, it's about this one

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Speaker 3: thing that got the to a decision raw they got

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Speaker 3: but some of it's just he does not He's a

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Speaker 3: great guy, but he not doesn't have that magnetic, get

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Speaker 3: But he doesn't have that persona when you get the

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Speaker 2: Drafting him is one thing.

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Speaker 3: Re Upping him in a contract you can't get out

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Speaker 2: And that is why Chris Career was let go.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 2: App Let's Get to the Foxes and now say every

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Speaker 2: day at this time of The Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: In the bonus podcast who play for a previous portion

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Speaker 3: of a Fox Sports Radio or a Fox Sports One show.

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Speaker 3: What does the Fox say? This is Rob Parker talking

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Speaker 5: I'm here to proclaim to all Los Angeles Dodger fans

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Speaker 5: I know people are saying, they's no way Mookie and

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Speaker 5: That kid, that rookie boy, twelve strikeouts and hitters one

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Speaker 4: He did. I can't nobody can defend it, defend it.

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Speaker 5: But I just if you're buying into this idea that

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Speaker 5: I don't think you've watched this series at all.

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Speaker 3: I actually there's lots of things Rob says which drive

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Speaker 2: Right, it's I like to bring this up.

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Speaker 3: He still calls Tom Brady the luckiest the lot, the

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Speaker 3: do enjoy Rob pays more attention to baseball than he should.

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Speaker 6: If you're the Dolphins and you're the Dolphins ownership, do

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I would tell you this. If you're bringing

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Speaker 3: going to bring in a new quarterback, a new coach.

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Speaker 3: A new GM equals new quarterback. The teardown has begun.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work any other way.

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Speaker 2: It does not.

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Speaker 3: Here's Nick right talking about our own Colin Cowherd getting

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Speaker 7: I got my first agent by cold calling agents and

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Speaker 7: And it is because Colin said, hey, why don't you

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Speaker 7: So to my dear friend Colin, congrats.

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Speaker 3: But I'll echo those sentiments. Colin's been there for me

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Speaker 3: Let's find out who's annoying Jason Stewart and now.

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Speaker 4: It's your annoying, Hey, Doug. The Halloween at the office,

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Speaker 4: I think Packers Matt Lafleur put it best today and

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Speaker 4: I think he speaks for all sane, grown men in

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Speaker 3: I don't give a shit if it's Halloween, all right,

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Speaker 4: So this is coming off of the week when I

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Speaker 4: people that think that they have they're entitled to enjoy work,

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Speaker 4: It's a special category. It's like the costumes at work

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Speaker 4: if you're not you know, if you're not a child

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Speaker 3: gonna top Now. Look, there's there's a couple of parts

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Oh that's that's the caveat. That's acceptable. Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 4: they're clear so YouTube TV. I woke up this morning

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Speaker 4: kind of I think that's like live viewing suicide in this.

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Speaker 3: Disney has the leverage in this thing.

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Speaker 2: That could be wrong.

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Speaker 3: I got off for twenty dollars a month rebate. Did

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Speaker 3: you get that for your YouTube TV while they don't

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Speaker 4: Now. I know that the ad was fired earlier today,

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Speaker 3: You do because my next annoying person is going to

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Speaker 10: It was about tour, it was about Mike mcdoniel and

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Speaker 10: I better hear Mike McDaniel's name today. I better hear

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 10: I understand it looks. I'm all for brothers as head coaches.

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Speaker 10: Jim's we know what battles I've been fighting over thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I got it all right.

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Speaker 10: But we go because when you don't get the job done,

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Speaker 10: you don't get.

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Speaker 2: The damn job done.

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Speaker 11: Period.

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 10: Don't tell me it's just him. Don't tell me we

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Speaker 10: gonna need Mike McDaniel's in place, and we just gonna

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Speaker 10: fire him and we gonna move forward.

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Speaker 4: Damn that.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for more news. I'm waiting for more news again.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 10: I can't defend Chris Grier with some of the decisions

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Speaker 10: that have been made personal wise.

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 10: I understand it's unfortunate, but I got it. But I'll

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Speaker 10: be damned if it gets to stop there. Oh hell no.

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Speaker 3: What's really sad is that there's no one on that set.

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Speaker 3: Cam Newton played in the league. Cam Newton knows, or

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Speaker 3: if he has any football knowledge, knows this to be true.

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Speaker 3: There's not anybody who can politely say what I'm going

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Speaker 3: to say in a less polite manner. You sound like

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Speaker 3: a fucking idiot. And it really really does damage to

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Speaker 3: the sports world because the most people who know football

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Speaker 3: know this to be one hund inaccurate. There are plenty

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Speaker 3: of people that watch Stephen A. Smith that are nodding

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Speaker 3: their head, going, yeah, they fired the.

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Speaker 2: Black guy first. That's fucked up. The NFL is racist. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I will not even factor in that Mike McDaniel is

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Speaker 3: I believe half black, forget about that, or that Tua

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Speaker 3: is Samoan. So apparently the Dolphins organization in Steven Ross

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Speaker 3: is only anti full black, not Samoan, and not mixed race.

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Speaker 3: Right again, stephen A is the highest paid employee at ESPN,

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Speaker 3: and he clearly doesn't know that Mike McDaniel identifies himself

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Speaker 3: as mixed race, nor is he willing to admit that

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Speaker 3: being Simoan is not white, Like, I don't know anybody

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Speaker 3: who's like, oh, I'm racist against black people, but not Simoan's.

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Speaker 2: That's fucking stupid. Also, it's your job as a Denia.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't he purport himself as a journalist? Oh? Yes, right.

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Speaker 3: If he was actually a journalist, he would remember that

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Speaker 3: Chris Greer and the front office fired their last head coach,

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Speaker 3: Brian Flores, who was black, and they fired him because

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Speaker 3: it was Chris Greer and his staff who decided to

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Speaker 3: select to a tongue of Ioloa over Justin Herbert, a

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Speaker 3: decision which has set the Miami Dolphins back for the

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Speaker 3: next twenty years because they went all in to get

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Speaker 3: a quarterback, ended up with I think the fourth pick,

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Speaker 3: and they picked the wrong quarterback. Additionally, Okay, so there's

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Speaker 3: the idea of Okay, the dolph are suddenly racist now

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Speaker 3: when they had a fucking GM and a fucking coach

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Speaker 3: who's black.

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Speaker 2: Their whole front office just so heat. But again, this

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Speaker 2: is the problem with Stephen A. It's that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: even ask a pa, hey man, they got a lot

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Speaker 2: of black people in the front office there, or does

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Speaker 2: this make any sense?

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Speaker 3: Instead, he's so arrogant, and the arrogance is supported by

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Speaker 3: ESPN paying in an ungodly sum of money that he

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Speaker 3: actually thinks he's making a point.

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Speaker 2: And the problem with it is.

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Speaker 3: There's always going to be a portion of society which

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Speaker 3: listens to the loudest talking people that don't know what

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Speaker 3: the fuck they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: And Steven A. Smith is just such a human being.

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Speaker 2: This is this is it. It's more than annoying. But

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Speaker 2: I'll put it in annoying.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's not just wrong, like exactly what is what

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Speaker 3: is Stephen Ross supposed to do? Because the last head

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Speaker 3: coach was fired because the front office is like, hey,

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Speaker 3: this guy doesn't like our quarterback, he doesn't like what

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Speaker 3: we're doing. It's us or him, and they fired the coach.

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Speaker 3: Now you're like, Okay, our culture is bad because we

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Speaker 3: brought in some guys like Tyreek Hill, who made the

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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill trade the GM okay, and yet like he's

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Speaker 3: like rooting for Mike mcdamild to get fired.

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's also black, you dummy, fucking look

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Speaker 3: it up. But you're so caught up in trying to

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Speaker 3: make a point and score points with that percentage of

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Speaker 3: people that thinks everything is racist.

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Speaker 2: And so now they walk around again.

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Speaker 3: I don't watch first take. I just see clips. I

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Speaker 3: saw this clip and I was like, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Not because I give a shit what stephen A says.

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Speaker 3: He says things that are wrong all the time, but

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Speaker 3: because the power behind stephen A stating something which is

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Speaker 3: categorically false. Okay, And when I'm saying kagor foss, he's

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Speaker 3: not wrong that they fired Chris Greer first, and that

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Speaker 3: Chris Greer is African American, he's not wrong, but he

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Speaker 3: is wrong because he's insinua.

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Speaker 2: You know he's this anyway.

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Speaker 3: He's saying, basically, it's racist the black guy goes first,

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Speaker 3: and if he wanted to go, the black guy goes first, Well,

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Speaker 3: they fired Brian Flores, who's a black head coach, and

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Speaker 3: they hired a mixed race head coach, and they have

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Speaker 3: a simone quarterback. So what the fuck are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: None of these people are white. And if you want to

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Speaker 3: say Mike McDaniel's white, does fine, you can say he's white.

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Speaker 3: He identifies as mixed race. I don't questions. I don't

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Speaker 3: give a shit. I know that Chris Greer was fired

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Speaker 3: because the team he's put together is a fucking mess.

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Speaker 3: The defense sucks, and they have bad culture, and they

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Speaker 3: picked the wrong quarterback. Outside of that, Chris Greer should

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Speaker 3: be gainfully employed. But instead you have the highest paid

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Speaker 3: employee of the most powerful sports broadcasting company who purports

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Speaker 3: himself to be a journalist that either doesn't know or

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Speaker 3: doesn't care the races of other people, and labels an

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Speaker 3: NFL team racist because they fired the GM who happens

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Speaker 3: to be black first, not even talking about the fact

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Speaker 3: that the entire fun office is black. He doesn't know

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Speaker 3: that because he doesn't actually do the work. I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, who's.

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Speaker 4: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 4: Because we can. So this is how this works, right,

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Speaker 4: Michael Jordan is going to say something every Tuesday night,

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Speaker 4: and then all the all the former athletes with podcasts

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Speaker 4: are going to respond to what Jordan said. This is

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Speaker 4: Carmelo Anthony on Michael Jordan saying, I would never do

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Speaker 4: World management.

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Speaker 11: You heard what mj said. My ankle hurt. Fuck that,

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Speaker 11: I gotta go. I'm tying my shit up. I still

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Speaker 11: gotta play. I gotta prove myself. That thought process of

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Speaker 11: having to prove yourself when you hurt. Today it's out

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Speaker 11: the window. I used to go through that shit my

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Speaker 11: own self.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 11: Fuck that, nobody is telling me I can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not playing.

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Speaker 11: I had two torn shoulders me never had surgery until

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Speaker 11: after this, a cleaning and all that stuff. But playing

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Speaker 11: through this because I'm built off of a different I'm

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Speaker 11: built from a different cloth. I want to play. I

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Speaker 11: want to go out there. I'm not nobody telling me

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Speaker 11: I can't play should the torn needs I'm going to play.

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Speaker 3: Carmello Anthony talking about He's gonna play regardless that that

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Speaker 3: we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is the power of television. It really is.

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Speaker 2: And Michael Jordan is doing.

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Speaker 3: Uh and the NBC is doing to the NBA daily

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Speaker 3: viewing experience or weekly viewing experience. What the Last Dance did,

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Speaker 3: which is it's amazing the power of Jordan right that

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Speaker 3: he can say something that you can't really challenge and

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Speaker 3: it makes him out to be the great, even greater

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Speaker 3: than he ever was, and everybody in sports is going

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Speaker 3: to talk about it. But like we're really acting like

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Speaker 3: came Caramel Anthey, now is gonna make himself into Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 2: Is that what we're doing? Okay, that's what the fuck? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Why can we play for you? Because we can. That's

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Speaker 2: it for the end of the Modus podcast.

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Speaker 3: Check out the radio show every day three to five's

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Speaker 3: from Twelt Too, Pacific, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app I'm

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Speaker 3: Doug Gotlie