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Speaker 1: That's what we're doing right now is we're gonna recap

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Speaker 1: has the mentality, and he's aware that he's not six

427
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Speaker 1: foot four, six foot five, has that typical kind of

428
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: quarterback build. The guy's been able to figure it out,

429
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: and I am just so intrigued by what he gives you.

430
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Speaker 1: I would have I honestly thought that we might see

431
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: it in that Las Vegas Raiders game last season, when

432
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: Carson was out for COVID all week long and Sam

433
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: had worked with the group and it had been a

434
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Speaker 1: good week of work. We were obviously limited where we

435
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: were able to say, yeah, yeah, that that too. So

436
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: I just think that I think he's deserving. I do.

437
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, the problem in week three

438
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: was that he had had that knee injury in the preseason,

439
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: so that was still lingering. Yeah, he wasn't even on

440
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: the active roster then he was still right right because

441
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: he got hurt. He got hurt in that Detroit game.

442
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: It was Jacob Easton, Hunley and Carson's all in the mix. Yeah,

443
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: that seems like forever ago. It does. It's like a

444
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: lifetime ago. So I do think, and I do know

445
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: that this staff is really high on Sam he's been here,

446
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: he's putting in the work, and he is a fun

447
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: guy to root for. And I do think that I

448
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: think he is someone who this Colts fan base has

449
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: a great admiration for. Like, I think people can really

450
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: get on board with him at that position just because

451
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: of who he is, how dynamic he is both on

452
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: and off the field. Yeah, I think the Colts I

453
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 1: think they're kind of taking the same approach big picture

454
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: with backup quarterback as they are at wide receiver. Right,

455
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: because at wide receivers a lot of young players with upside.

456
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: They want to give those guys a fair shake to

457
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: see what they can do, to see what they believe in.

458
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Speaker 1: You know, at that spot, We've talked about this all

459
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: off season, right, you got strong Dulan Patman. It's not

460
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Speaker 1: as if they can't do it. They just haven't been

461
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: asked to kind of fill that role yet in their career.

462
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: Well now they are needed to fill that role and

463
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: a few of those guys have to step up. Colts

464
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Speaker 1: are doing using the same approach or you know, one

465
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: of those guys has to step up. And Ellinger last

466
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: year he had his ups and downs in the preseason.

467
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: He had three picks, but he showed command of the offense.

468
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 1: He's got another year in the system. As you said, Lair,

469
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: the guys believe him. He's got that it factor inside

470
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: the huddle, He's got that good leadership intangible about him.

471
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Speaker 1: I think the Colt's gonna let this play out at

472
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Speaker 1: least through the first part of training camp, and then

473
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Speaker 1: if they feel like they need to make a move,

474
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Speaker 1: you know they will. And I think those guys can

475
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Speaker 1: get cut by other teams too well. I think like

476
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Speaker 1: a guy like Nick Foles or someone like him of

477
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Speaker 1: his caliber, where they are in their career, I think

478
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: a guy like Nick Foles has a good probability of

479
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Speaker 1: still being on the open market, you know, the early

480
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Speaker 1: part of August, maybe the middle part of August. I

481
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Speaker 1: completely agree, because I think, right now, so why why

482
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: rush it? Let's see what you got that's the best.

483
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Speaker 1: That's literally was about to say, don't no need to

484
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Speaker 1: rush it, because I think you kind of want to

485
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: look at what you have. I mean, you're using this

486
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: time right now that I'm not saying they're not going

487
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: to bring anybody else in, but right now you're kind

488
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: of looking to see what this looks like and then

489
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: I think they're doing the exact same thing at wide receiver,

490
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Speaker 1: and I could think you could take the next month

491
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Speaker 1: and a half to kind of assess and look at

492
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: everything you have, and then you can kind of go, Okay,

493
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: we might need something here, here and here, and then

494
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: I do believe you, Matt, that he will be available.

495
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: A guy like that could definitely be available when when

496
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Speaker 1: training camp rolls around. All Right, the last fallout coming

497
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: from a rookie minicamp, and really it's it's the media

498
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: availability in conjunction with the practices. We heard from Bernard

499
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Speaker 1: Ryman Lara, he met with the media, He talked about

500
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Speaker 1: his opportunity to compete at left tackle, be the guy

501
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in direct competition at least early on

502
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: with a veteran Matt Pryor. Um. Those guys are going

503
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: to battle it out starting in OTA's next week mini

504
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: camp in June. All of training camp. You've got a

505
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Speaker 1: guy Lara that has only a handful of starts at

506
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Speaker 1: left tackle, a rookie that has never played in the

507
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Speaker 1: NFL at all in the regular season, Lara, how real

508
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: is the competition between Ryman and Pryor For that really

509
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: important left tackle job with Matt Ryanel quarterback. Very real,

510
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: very very real. You're not going to spend a draft

511
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: pick on a guy you don't think is an immediate

512
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: contributor at that position. To me, I think that was

513
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: one of the areas you had of need. You're saying

514
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: truly fifty fifty there, Yeah, I think I think so,

515
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: and I think that they should both approach it that way.

516
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it, and Ryman's coming out

517
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: of like Tackle University Central Michigan, look at Joe Staley

518
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: and Eric Fisher, and you know, you think about the

519
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: program he's coming out of that has produced really solid

520
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: NFL tackles, And I do think that he is One

521
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Speaker 1: of the things that intrigues me so much, aside from

522
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Speaker 1: all of the physical attributes of Bernard Ryman, is the

523
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: fact he is like obsessed, absolutely obsessed with football. In

524
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: talking with his family and JJ's article and his host

525
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: family when he was an exchange student, JJ learned that,

526
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, the mom of the family that was hosting

527
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: him for that year, he was every single camp clinic

528
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: he could find, he was looking it up. She is

529
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: shuttling him around, carpooling everywhere. He wanted to go. He

530
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: is such a student of the game and that is

531
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: immensely going to fast track his ability at that position,

532
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: because what have we seen with the guys who have

533
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: played at that position, led by Anthony Costanzo, They are

534
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: often the smartest guys on the field, and I feel

535
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: like Bernard Ryman exudes that. Matt Pryor certainly does too.

536
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: Matt Pryor very smart football player, and he certainly has

537
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: that savvy veteran experience that he brings in as well.

538
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: So I do think there will be competition. The upside

539
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: for Bernard Ryman. We have no idea what his ceiling is,

540
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: and I think he can start to show that immediately

541
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: with the competition you're going to see there. One of

542
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: the things that I mean, Matt and I were able

543
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: to sit in the Chris Ballard, you know, post draft thing,

544
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: which is always really really cool. But one of the

545
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: things that somebody asked is why he fell, because you know,

546
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: they had him graded as a second round grade, which

547
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: that's a pretty high level. A lot of questions that

548
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: nobody knows on why he fell, But the Holts were

549
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: very beneficial to be able to get him when they did,

550
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I think that there is a

551
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: reason that they selected him. I don't know if it's

552
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 1: going to be that he is day one starter at

553
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: left tackle, but there's definitely going to be serious competition.

554
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: But also that swing tackle that's a very, very valuable

555
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: position on this team. So that's one of the things

556
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: that those two guys, You're going to see a lot

557
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: of them, I believe. And one of the things even

558
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: going back to Chris's post mortem, you know, from last year,

559
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: as to why they didn't take a tackle in the

560
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: twenty one draft, he said, we didn't feel like that

561
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: there were true left tackles out there. So to me,

562
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: that's very telling. If you did select a tackle here,

563
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: you really are high on Bernard Ryman at the left

564
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: tackle position because of how stringent your caliber was the

565
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: last two years at that position. Well, no matter how

566
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: it shakes out, it's it's going to be fascinating and

567
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: as they say, let the best man win. That competition's open.

568
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: It really starts now, and no matter how you slice it,

569
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: it's interesting because of the big jump because Ryman has

570
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: been a left tackle for only two years, switching from

571
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: tight end in college, you know, playing in the MAC.

572
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: That's a big jump from the MAC to the NFL.

573
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: And then Matt Pryor, as we said, only has a

574
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: couple of starts under his belt at the left tackle position,

575
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: looking to kind of settle into that role on a

576
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: more permanent basis. Lastly, before we get to Mike North

577
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: coming up here, as we continue to talk about the

578
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: NFL schedule and some of the interesting things on the

579
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Colts schedule, playing all those AFC South games right out

580
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: of the gate and getting four primetime games, which is

581
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise. We've got joint practices set, guys. We've

582
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: got the Detroit Lions coming in to take on the

583
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: Colts in practice August seventeenth and eighteenth up at Grand

584
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Speaker 1: Park in Westfield. This will be the third year in

585
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: a row Cleveland and nineteen Carolina last year. I guess,

586
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: not three years in a row, but three years that

587
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: you've been available to do it right with COVID kind

588
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: of being uh, not consecutive years, but it's in three

589
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: not interrupting things. So also interesting because Hard Knocks is

590
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: back on the Colts, at least indirectly, because the Lions

591
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: will be the focus of the training camp version of

592
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks this year, So obviously those cameras and that

593
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: show will be focusing on the cults. Know, they are

594
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: all about the Dan Campbell content. I mean the soundbites

595
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: that are, oh, yeah, here we go. What's what's the coffee? Yeah,

596
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: it's a Ventique coffee with two shots of espresso. So

597
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: it's like a double red Eye. I think I can't

598
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: wait to see Dan Campbell at the Starbucks there right

599
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: right outside of Graham Park, you know, absolutely starting defense. Also,

600
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: how popular is David Blow going to be when they

601
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: come to Westfield and you got all the produce falls

602
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: he I was back a couple of years ago. I

603
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: mentioned in twenty nineteen. Was he not on the Browns?

604
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Then he was slinging around against the Colts and training

605
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: camp back in nineteen. I think I remember seeing him,

606
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: but I just can't remember the context. But there you go.

607
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: His wife in an Olympic track athlete. By the way,

608
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: we did cover that last year when the Colts are

609
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: playing the Lions in the preseason. That was going on

610
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: simultaneously right there, So some good matchups on paper. The

611
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: Colts can kind of sharpen their skills and know they've

612
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: got uh, you know, t J. Hawkinson, DeAndre Swift, Jamison Williams.

613
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, a first round draft pick for the Lions,

614
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: a Monross Saint Brown on defense? They've got who they

615
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: got Jeff Acuda on Aiden Hutchinson. Aiden Hutchinson the first

616
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: round pick. Yep. So yeah, that's a good matchup right away.

617
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna have ones versus ones. Let's see

618
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: if Ryman can slow down a fellow rookie coming off

619
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Speaker 1: the edge right there. All right, enough talk about what's

620
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: coming up in three months. We need to talk about

621
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Speaker 1: what came out last week in the NFL schedule that's

622
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: still fresh on our minds, and a breakdown the schedule

623
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: is Mike North, who literally put the schedule together for

624
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: every NFL team, all thirty two squads, two hundred and

625
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: seventy two games. He is the NFL Vice President of

626
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: Broadcast Planning. Mike, I really appreciate the time and know

627
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: you have a very busy schedule, no pun intended. How

628
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: you doing today? Doing great today? Thanks? Thanks for having

629
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: me on. Awesome? All right, So, first of all, the

630
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: schedule came out last Friday. Let's go back, did you

631
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: think ten fifteen years ago? Mike the NFL schedule release

632
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: date would become such a it's like the super Bowl,

633
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: one of the super Bowls of the off season. You've

634
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: got networks dedicating hours of coverage to it, You've got

635
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: NFL teams spending you know, thousands of dollars on in

636
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: house videos to hype it up on Twitter and Instagram.

637
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, how far have we come with the schedule

638
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: in mind and the spectacle that it is in the

639
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: off season in May. Yeah, no doubt, We've come a

640
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: long way. I've been I've been doing this a long time.

641
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: I never envisioned a world where people would care that much,

642
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: but I love that they do. I love there's that

643
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: much attention being paid to it, and obviously it's it's

644
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: one of the most important parts of the NFL offseason,

645
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: right and the way it slots in now kind of

646
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: post raft that used to come out. I know you've

647
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: been doing the song enough to know used to come

648
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: out kind of middle of April, even early April some years,

649
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: and it was just sort of a Hey, whenever they

650
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: get done with it, they'll put it out. They'll give

651
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: everybody twenty four to forty eight hours notice. I mean,

652
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: it's not like we're breaking news, right, we knew who

653
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: the cults, you know, home and Road opponents, where all

654
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: we're kind of doing is putting them in order and

655
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: figuring out which ones are in primetime and which ones

656
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: are on the holidays. So I don't know that we're

657
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: breaking news, but I love the people care. I love

658
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: the people want to talk about it, and to the

659
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: point that they're interested in hearing from me. I'm happy

660
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: to tell you how we arrived, at what we did,

661
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: and where we're going to go from here. Mike, from

662
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: your perspective, how entertaining is it to see each of

663
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: the organizations and their content teams or social media teams

664
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: get behind their own releases, Because being part of our

665
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: production department, I know the expectation and a little bit

666
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: of the pressure that there is to a lot of

667
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: the franchises to put these big budget for some big

668
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: budget type of productions behind what they're doing. And we

669
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: saw what the Rams have done the Chargers year after year,

670
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: and this year the Colts got Matt Ryan involved in

671
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: a fun skit about Mattie Ice and Frank reik In

672
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: on the bit as well. How entertaining is it for

673
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: you to see each of the teams and what they

674
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: do to make it special and kind of tie in

675
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: their own spin on it. Yeah, look I love it.

676
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean as a fan, I love it. I love

677
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: how as you guys know, and as you just alluded to,

678
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: there are so many really talented people behind the scenes

679
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: working on things that maybe don't get a whole lot

680
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: of attention, maybe don't see the light of day that often.

681
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: And if this is something where some of those really

682
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: talented people can kind of bring their skills out to

683
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: the forefront, let the public see it, you know. As

684
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: we wind down in the final couple of days of

685
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: schedule making, I mean we're literally not even done until

686
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: this year Tuesday night. I mean it really wasn't until

687
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, about forty eight hours before we put the

688
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: thing out, that the commissioner finally said, all right, this

689
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: one I'm good with. Let's go. So our heads are down,

690
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: the computers are spinning, the group is still meeting. We're

691
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: not really looking at what everybody else is doing other

692
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: than just trying to get our term paper done before

693
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: the professor says, you know, pencils down, So we don't

694
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: really get a chance to see everything while they're building it,

695
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: so we kind of get it the way all the

696
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: rest of the fans do kind of Thursday night when

697
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: it gets released and you almost kind of backtrack and

698
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: you start seeing the buzz, right. You start seeing people

699
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, have you seen this link? Or have

700
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: you seen that link? Or other people picking picking up

701
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: the links to some of the really good ones, the

702
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: really funny ones. And then finally about about Friday afternoon,

703
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: they do send something around the office kind of all

704
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: thirty two teams social media executions of their schedule leaves.

705
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: There's some really good stuff in there there and then

706
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: you're the judge, right then you're picking the best ones. Oh,

707
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: they don't care what we've met, Mike. I want to

708
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: dive into what you said there. You kind of you

709
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: finalize everything and you sit it off for approval. Is

710
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: there multiple windows? It means that, like you have a

711
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: handful of rough drafts and you're finally waiting for that

712
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: final Is there multiple schedules that you send out or

713
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: is that the way that it works is that last

714
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: one is the one you send out. Yeah, there's really

715
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: two answers to that. Number one is you know, if

716
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: we're showing the commissioner a finalist contender schedule, and he

717
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: hates it. We have not done our jobs over the

718
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: previous four six weeks. We kind of checkpoint with him

719
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: as we go kind of every week. Hey boss, here's

720
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: what we're thinking about in terms of total prime time appearances.

721
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: Here's what we're thinking about is big give to certain networks.

722
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna do with this game or

723
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: that game, sort of those must see TV games that

724
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: we all know about, whether it's a quarterback going back

725
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: to his previous team or something like that. So we

726
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: kind of give him a hint as we go. Here's

727
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: what we're thinking, here's the path we're going down. Here's

728
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: what the computers are searching for. If he hates it,

729
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: I hope he tells us, you know, earlier than you know.

730
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: May eleventh. And then to your question about are there

731
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: more than one candidate? There are? I mean, we really

732
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: do come down to the end, you know, once we've

733
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: met with him kind of on a weekly basis and

734
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: kind of get a sense from him, this is what

735
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. This is what I think we should

736
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: be solving for. I like this instead of that. Let's

737
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: go left instead of right. All those finalists schedules, they

738
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: kind of look alike. Right, There's not going to be

739
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: varying changes, wild swings in the primetime schedule or anything

740
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, this schedule might have a

741
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: three game road trip for the Bengals, and that one

742
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: might have a three game road trip for the Colts,

743
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: And this one might have this team with a road

744
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: after road Monday, and this one might have this team

745
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: starting with two away to start the season. And this

746
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: one brings with it this game on Sunday Night, and

747
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: this one brings with it that game on ESPN. And

748
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: so just trying to find that right balance between creating

749
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: the best national television windows, the most fan friendly television schedules,

750
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: and also balancing the team pain, you know, the competitive

751
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: inequities that are inevitably in every schedule. Just trying to

752
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: find the right balance and bringing them all to the boss.

753
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: And look, if I'm doing my job, I feel like

754
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm making this decision real hard on him. Here's a

755
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: whole bunch of really good NFL schedules. Anyone you pick

756
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: is going to be great. How you pick, well, that's

757
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: why that guy's the boss. This might be an odd question,

758
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: but on that you talk about the primetime games. I

759
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: looked at some of the schedules and it looks like

760
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: five might be that lucky number of the amount of

761
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: primetime games at something. Is there a threshold that you

762
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: guys go in with with This might be the max

763
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: for certain teams as far as primetime games go. Yeah,

764
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: that's where we start, just based on our contracts with

765
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: obligations to our primetime partners and our Sunday afternoon partners.

766
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, as you can imagine, if you worked for

767
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: NBC or ESPN, you would want that number to be

768
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: eight or nine, right, give me all the Cowboys, Packers,

769
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: and Chiefs games in primetime every season. If you worked

770
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: for CBS and Fox, you'd want that number to be

771
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: a lot smaller. I'd love to have all those games

772
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: on a Sunday afternoon package for myself. So again, trying

773
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: to find the right balance. Five's the magic number somewhere

774
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: between NBC Sunday Night, ESPN Monday Night, and now Amazon

775
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night. Kind of Five's that magic number leaves

776
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: just enough behind for Sunday Afternoon partners, allows us to

777
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: still fill other windows, whether it's international or holidays, and

778
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: still have, you know, the good games, the biggest games

779
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: in our primetime windows. At the end of the day,

780
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: we're not doing our jobs that we're putting those really

781
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: big games, you know, on a Sunday afternoon at one

782
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern time, with seven other eight games going on

783
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: at once. You want to put the biggest games in

784
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: the biggest windows. Mike, I was geeking out a little

785
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: bit on the schedule before we started this conversation. I

786
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: read that you and your team had to sift through

787
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: more than one hundred thousand schedules out of a possible

788
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: one quadrillion possibilities that the computer spits out to you,

789
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: and then you guys finally landed on the right one,

790
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: as you alluded to in that process. But the NFL

791
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: schedule has a lot of rules that it has to follow, right.

792
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: It has to contend with consecutive road games, rest venue conflicts,

793
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: team requests, things happening in certain cities. Can you give

794
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: us some of those rules and how hard it is

795
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: to plug in those rules into your software system that

796
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: generates those possible outcomes. Yeah, Look, there's some evergreen rules

797
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: that you know, we don't ever really mess with things

798
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: like you know, you can't go more than three weeks

799
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: without a home game. You can catch a three game

800
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: road trip here and there. It happens. It happened to

801
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: the Colts recently. Because it happened to the Colts recently,

802
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: it shouldn't happen again, you know, this year or next year.

803
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: So balance out all the things that a coacher general

804
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: manager might hate, whether it's too a way to start,

805
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: or three in a row on the road, or a

806
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: road after road Monday, or too many games against teams

807
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: coming off their bye weeks, all the things that coaches

808
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: general managers look at. So there's the competitive equity side

809
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: of the house. And then, like we kind of hinted

810
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: at just before, there are some television obligations with our partners.

811
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: There's a certain number of appearances for each team on

812
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: each network, and each network gets to make certain requests,

813
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: not over specific games. You know, there's no such thing

814
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: where you know, this network says this game is mine.

815
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: Doesn't work like that. They get to say we want

816
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: this many appearances from this team or that team. So

817
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: we try to balance it out. We talked to all

818
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: the networks, we talked to all the teams. Solicity everybody's input.

819
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: What do we need to know, what do you want

820
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: us to keep in mind, What are you most concerned about,

821
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: what are you most focused on, what's your priority? We

822
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: take all that information and then we kind of close

823
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: and lock the door, feed it all into the computer

824
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: system and just let it keep spinning. Do we look

825
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: through every single week of all one hundred and twenty

826
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: thousand schedules. No, definitely not, obviously, not enough hours in

827
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: the day. But all those schedules come out with some

828
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: sort of metrics, some sort of scoring system, some sort

829
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: of viewership expectation, and we can kind of say, hey,

830
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: this is the best of what we found overnight. Is

831
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: it the best one we found so far? If it is,

832
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: let's hang it on the wall. We'll call it the

833
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: Leader in the clubhouse. And if the commissioner comes downstairs

834
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: tomorrow bangs on the door and says, give me the

835
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: best one you've got, We've always got one hanging on

836
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: the wall. In the meantime, let's try to beat it.

837
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: What's the worst thing about it? Might be a three

838
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: game road trip, might be a week one o'clock window

839
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: for CBS, might be the sequencing of the Monday Night

840
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: football games in December. Whatever it is that's the biggest wart,

841
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: the biggest flaw on this schedule. Let's try to fix

842
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: it tonight. You let all the computers run. They're all

843
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: working in the same direction, pulling on the chain, and

844
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: we come in in the morning. We've got a whole

845
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: bunch of contenders. They all fixed what was broken on

846
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse? But what did they break

847
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: in order to accomplish that? Are we better if we

848
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: are boom new leader in the clubhouse? If we're not,

849
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: leaders survives, keep going, keep trying to be to keep

850
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: throwing contenders at the leader. When that leader survives for

851
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: a couple of days or even a couple of weeks,

852
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: you know you're converging on optimal. You're getting pretty close

853
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: to the best you're going to do, Mike. One of

854
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: the highlight weekends, of course, is always the Thanksgiving Day game.

855
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: And last year the Colts played on Christmas Night that

856
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: game out in Arizona. This year you have three Christmas

857
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Day games, and not that the Colts are involved in

858
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: any of those, but Christmas Day has typically been one

859
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: of those big NBA that's where the NBA is going

860
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: to put all of their stars on display for that day.

861
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: With having an NFL triple header an NBA triple header,

862
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: what were the considerations with having the two big leagues,

863
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: with both having three game options for fans to be

864
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: able to watch and immerse themselves in on the Christmas

865
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: Day holiday. Yeah, I think we've shown that Christmas has become,

866
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: you know, a sports on TV holiday. You know, Thanksgiving

867
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: certainly has been. You guys saw it because you play

868
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: it on Thanksgiving not that long ago. You know, those

869
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: three games on Thanksgiving tend to be among the highest rated,

870
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: most watch games of the season. As we've been able

871
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: to deploy games on Christmas over these last couple of years.

872
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously it depends on the calendar. Christmas fell

873
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: on a Friday two years ago, it fell on Saturday

874
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: last year, Sunday this year, Monday next year. Those are

875
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: NFL game days. You know, as we get to twenty

876
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: twenty four, you know, Christmas is going to fall on

877
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: a Wednesday. I'm not sure we're going to play on Wednesday.

878
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: But you know, our fans are telling us that, you know,

879
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: they like watching sports on television on these holidays, and

880
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: they like watching NFL games. So the viewership doesn't lie.

881
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: Our fans are telling us what's important to them when

882
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to take advantage of some of

883
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: these new windows, whether it's to thank Giving holiday, the

884
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: Christmas holiday. Now you've got some of these nine thirty

885
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: am Eastern times Sunday games with the European games. You know,

886
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: we're always looking for these new windows. We're always looking

887
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: to innovate. We're always looking to try something new, see

888
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: what the fans are interested in. And more than anything,

889
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: it's exposing some of these teams to an audience that

890
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: they might not get otherwise. Right, it wasn't that long

891
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: ago that every NFL game was played at one o'clock

892
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: and four o'clock Eastern. You know. Then we added Monday

893
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: night football in the seventies, and then slowly we added

894
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: Sunday night football, then Thursdays now Sunday mornings. At some

895
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: point we might reach a level where hey, that's just

896
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: too much football on a weekend. But I'm not sure

897
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: we've reached it yet. So every chance we get to

898
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: put another good game in another window where our fans

899
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: are going to get a chance to see some of

900
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: these teams maybe they don't get to see very much.

901
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: It's a good opportunity for us, and obviously TV viewership

902
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: is such a driving force. But I know, just from

903
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of Colts fans when they saw that

904
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: game come out, a lot of families thought, man, what

905
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: a great trip. We'll make a trip out of Christmas.

906
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: What we're going to do as a family instead of

907
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: doing a whole lot of gifts, We're going to book

908
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: our tickets to go somewhere cool and spend Christmas Day

909
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: at a stadium we've never gone to and make that

910
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: type of an experience out of it. So I think

911
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: that's another intriguing thing, just for fans of the game

912
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: who might have it as I like to get to

913
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: a different stadium every year, or I want to see

914
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: my team in person, and they use that holiday opportunity.

915
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: They've got the time off work, so hey, let's make

916
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: a road trip, or let's fly our family out there

917
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: and spend the holiday together rooting and taking in a game.

918
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: And I think that is a really cool approach as well,

919
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: when you talk about those holiday games. Yeah, we actually

920
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of backed into maybe a travel opportunity for Christmas

921
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: this year, just because all three of the games we

922
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: schedule for Christmas happened to be in warm weather sites

923
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: where in Miami in the afternoon, we're in la in

924
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: the late afternoon, and then we're out in Arizona at night.

925
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't intentional that way. We certainly looked at plenty

926
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: of schedules where we might have found ourselves in Green Bay,

927
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: in Chicago, in Denver. Definitely what it's as the travel

928
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: considerations this week, why Mike I want to dive a

929
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: little more cold specific Now, there's always parody in the NFL,

930
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: and you know, any given Sunday that mantra always rings true.

931
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: It seems like for the Colts it's when they go

932
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, it's been kind of they're bumping the road.

933
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: When you look at these schedules, do you dive in

934
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: and kind of look like, ah, that could be a

935
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: bump of the road. Do you get to kind of

936
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: look at some of these schedules and identify those games

937
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: at all? Look, you said it exactly right. There's no

938
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: such thing as, you know, an easy game in the NFL.

939
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: There really isn't. So to look at each team's schedule

940
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: and say, oh, this stretch is unfair, or this stretch

941
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: is really challenging, or this stretch is too easy. We

942
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: don't really have that luxury, mostly because none of us

943
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: know anything, right. I mean, we'd love to be able

944
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: to tell ourselves and tell our fans, you know, oh,

945
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: this team's gonna go twelve and five and that team

946
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: is going to go thirteen and four, but none of

947
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: us know anything. Best laid plans in April and may

948
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: suddenly become you know, big swings in misses by the

949
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: times you get to them in November and December. But

950
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: as best as we can tell, you know, there're certainly

951
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: games every year that you know the fans are gonna

952
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: care about, you know they're gonna want to see, and

953
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: again not doing our jobs. If you put that game

954
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: at one o'clock on a Sunday, eight other games going on,

955
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: only fifteen percent of the country gets to watch it.

956
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: So you try to move some of those bigger ones,

957
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: the ones that sound like football games quote unquote. That's

958
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: the Howard Katz always says, the guy who runs a

959
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: scheduling process that sounds like a football game, Well, if

960
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: it does, then it should be in a window where

961
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: more fans can access it. And I think That's what

962
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: we try to do over the years, get the bigger

963
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: sounding games into the bigger viewed windows. But you also

964
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: have to keep an eye on the competitive implications of

965
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: it as well. You could make the perfect television schedule

966
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: if there is such a thing nothing but Cowboys and

967
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: Packers and Chiefs and you know, all those teams in

968
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: primetime every week. That's probably not going to be your

969
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: best team schedule, right, You're gonna have to break some

970
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: eggs to make an omelet flip. Side of that is,

971
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: you can make perfect team schedules. Everybody open at home,

972
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: close at home. Nobody was a three game road trip

973
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: every the midseason. By just by definition, that's not going

974
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: to be your best television schedule. So trying to find

975
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: that balance between those two, you know, maximize viewership, maximize

976
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: our fans opportunity to see the best games, without putting

977
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: any one team in a real competitive disadvantage. All right, Mike,

978
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: a couple of Cults questions before we close out here.

979
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: This year, the Cults are playing three of their first

980
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: four games against the division, five of their first six

981
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: AFC South games come before Halloween. Is there a deviation

982
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: from backloading division games like in year's pass to kind

983
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: of generate important matchups late in the season. We've kind

984
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: of seen that in the past, but not so much

985
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: this year, at least not for the Cults were obviously

986
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: the front loaded nature of their schedule, all AFC South

987
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: early in the months of September and October. Yeah, if

988
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: I could wave a magic wand I would love the

989
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: idea of everybody kind of opening the season with the

990
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: first maybe three or four weeks of the season outside

991
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: of the division. I don't know that we want to

992
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: save every division game for the back half of the schedule,

993
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: but certainly, you know, division games late in the season

994
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: tend to keep teams from clinching playoff spots or at

995
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: least clinching division titles, So saving some of them for

996
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: the back half does make sense. But it's interesting as

997
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: you hand, you know, the commissioner the final six or

998
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: eight to schedules. You know, this particular one that we

999
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: ended up going with kind of frontloaded a little bit

1000
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: with some of the Colts Division games, but you look

1001
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the division. You know, you see

1002
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Houston finishing with three straight division games. You know, a

1003
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: previous version of this schedule might have had that exactly flipped.

1004
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: The Colts with all their division games kind of late,

1005
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: and the Texans of the Jags with all their division

1006
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: games early. Just trying to balance it out across the

1007
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: whole league. Look, none of us know anything, but you know,

1008
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: kind of have been led to think that, you know,

1009
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Titans might be the two teams

1010
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: fighting for a division title late in the year. Would

1011
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: have been great to hold on to maybe one of

1012
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: those Cults and Titans games for a little bit later

1013
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: in the year. That being said, they're worth value no

1014
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: matter when they're played, right, because that Colts Titans series

1015
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: may well end up to side in the AFC South.

1016
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Whether they played in Week three or Week five or

1017
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Week seventeen and eighteen, those games are still gonna matter.

1018
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: So kind of sprinkling some of the big division games

1019
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: throughout the entire schedule for all the divisions and then

1020
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: hopefully saving a few for the back end, keeping anybody

1021
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: from being able to run away with a division. If

1022
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: the NFL had their way, you know, we'd have everybody

1023
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: eight and eight heading into that final weekend and everybody

1024
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: still in playoff contention. That's my dream. We haven't gotten

1025
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: there yet, but I'd love to see that someday. All right, then,

1026
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: last one the primetime games for the Colts twenty twenty two,

1027
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: the Colts get four primetime games, two of them at

1028
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: home Monday night games. Really cool. I mean, the fan

1029
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: base is fired up about that because it's been a

1030
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: sticking point around here because this will be the first

1031
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: time the Colts will host a primetime game on either

1032
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: Monday night or Sunday night since twenty fifteen. So since

1033
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, might the Colts have played fifteen primetime games

1034
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: and only four of those have come at home. How

1035
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: the league view that? I know you've heard about that.

1036
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: Jim Rsey has been open about that. What was the

1037
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: stance from the league on that? Was that a coincidence

1038
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: or was there something too that? Just how did that

1039
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: come about from the league standpoint? Yeah? Look, the honest

1040
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: answer is they will due. I mean, they've been a

1041
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: good team in playoffs contention for a lot of years. Therefore,

1042
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: they're going to find themselves on primetime television. Has the

1043
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: balance definitely seemed to shift toward more road games, Yes,

1044
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: no question about it, undeniable. It is what it is.

1045
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of factors in there. One

1046
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: of them is, obviously, you know, the rotation, who plays

1047
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: who and who plays where. That one's out of our hands.

1048
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: So there are times when you look at a schedule

1049
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: and you might see a game like Indianapolis at Kansas

1050
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: City or whatever it is, you know, indiat KC. That

1051
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: one's thrust upon us, and then you have to decide

1052
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: is that game so good that you want to put

1053
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: it in primetime? Maybe you do, and maybe it is

1054
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: a little unfair for the Colts and their fans to

1055
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: have this many road primetime games year after year. But

1056
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, the rotation might just tell you, hey, they're

1057
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: really good games, they're primetime worthy. Games might just happen

1058
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: to be on the road this year. So this particular season,

1059
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: knowing that they were hosting the Steelers, hosting the Chargers,

1060
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: hosting the Chiefs hosting the Eagles, there was definitely going

1061
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: to be an opportunity for us to find a couple

1062
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: of really good home primetime sites for them. And you

1063
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: mentioned the holidays. You know, it also happened to work

1064
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: out that, you know, they're on the Monday of Thanksgiving

1065
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: weekends on the Monday of Christmas, weekend. You know, nice

1066
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: to be able to get to still spend the holiday

1067
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: with the family and still kind of bookend, you know,

1068
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: with a big football viewing weekend for us, you know,

1069
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: really looking forward to it. I think the fact, like

1070
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned, not just hosting these games, but if you

1071
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: look at where in the season they have fallen, right,

1072
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: you got the two Monday night games both week twelve,

1073
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: and later, you got the Sunday Night or in Dallas

1074
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: in week thirteen, and don't forget, they're in the Saturday

1075
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: pool in week fifteen. So if the Colts and Fights

1076
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: are in the playoff chase, that's he had another national

1077
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: television appearance. The fact that you see so many of

1078
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: those and they're all kind of massed up in the

1079
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: back half of the schedule probably gives you a pretty

1080
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: good indication that the league thinks the Colts are going

1081
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: to be in this thing in the second half of

1082
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: the season and really looking forward to getting to expose

1083
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: them to the country. Let him see Mattie Ice under

1084
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: center with the horseshoe on his helmet, and the whole country.

1085
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: You'll get to see how that's going, you know, into

1086
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: November and December, so that when they get into the

1087
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: playoffs in January. It's not the first time for fans

1088
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: of scene the Colts came. All right, fair enough, well

1089
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: said right there. Again, that's Mike North from the NFL office.

1090
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: And for those that don't know, which a lot of

1091
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: our listeners do not, Mike is our point person on

1092
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: all broadcast matters. So if I have a question about broadcasting,

1093
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: I go to Mike. So I was talking with Mike

1094
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I'm sure you were sick of me

1095
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: and people like me, Mike during the whole pandemic, because

1096
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: two twenty two twenty one, there's still a lot of

1097
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: remote broadcasting going on, and you were the liaison with

1098
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: the league the networks, getting alternate feeds, giving us technical

1099
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: information that we needed to get the video support. So

1100
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: what has the last few years been like for you

1101
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: and how ready are you for a change in a

1102
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: good way to get things back to normal. Yeah. Look,

1103
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: I think we're all ready to put this pandemic in

1104
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: the rearview and kind of go back to the way

1105
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: things were. But what I think we learned, and you know,

1106
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: not so much to the League office, but really more

1107
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: kudos to folks like you and your staff is what

1108
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: we were able to accomplish really with you know, one

1109
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: hand time behind our back, or two hands sometimes tied

1110
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: behind our back. The fact that you know, everybody was

1111
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: still able to get on the air, was still able

1112
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to do their jobs, still

1113
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: able to bring the content to the fans was frankly inspiring.

1114
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: It was incredible, And I know you've gotten some of

1115
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: my emails, you know, always so impressed with all of

1116
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: our friends who are doing the local television broadcast, doing

1117
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: the team shows, doing the radio broadcasts. What a group

1118
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: of dedicated, incredibly talented individuals and also humble. Right, everybody said,

1119
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: what can I do to help not just my team,

1120
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: but the visiting team? Yeah? How I get this feed

1121
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: out of We all had to do one of them

1122
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: because I know I'm going to play them someday and

1123
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: they're gonna do the same for me. So the fact

1124
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: that everybody really kind of rallied together the spirit of

1125
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: cooperation was so inspiring and it was amazing. You know,

1126
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: I know you've heard this from your listeners, but man,

1127
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have even known. You guys weren't on site

1128
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: sometimes when you were calling the games, you're doing in

1129
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: front of monitors. You're obviously a little bit curtailed and

1130
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: what you're used to, but everybody found a way. Everybody

1131
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: got through it. But like you said, I think we're

1132
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: all really looking forward to getting back on the planes,

1133
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: back in the stadiums, back out with the fans, and

1134
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: getting things back to normal, no doubt about that. It's

1135
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: Mike North from the NFL office. He is the NFL

1136
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: broadcasting guru. And this has been a fascinating interview. It's

1137
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: a fascinating process. Mike. We appreciate you setting some light

1138
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: on it. Enjoy some time off you've earned it, have

1139
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: a great summer, and hopefully I'm not bugging you for

1140
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: a long time. All right, Yeah, you call me anytime

1141
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: you need. All right, Thanks, guys, enjoyed it again. That's

1142
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: Mike North from the League office. And uh yeah, I

1143
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: think I think that was the biggest compliment that you

1144
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: could give us the radio broadcast really two and twenty

1145
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: and two twenty one is you know, people would come

1146
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: up to us and they'd say, I didn't even know

1147
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: you guys, weren't there. You sounded like you were in

1148
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: San Francisco. We had the pouring rain and we had

1149
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: the sound effects on in the background, and you had

1150
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: the rain hitting the microphone feed that we got out

1151
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: to Kennon Skyler, our engineers, and crisp At, Chris Buckley,

1152
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Mike Stevens, all of the guys who made all that possible,

1153
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: who you guys don't get to hear from. They were

1154
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: the true rock stars of these last two seasons. We

1155
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: did a good job theater of the mind. That San

1156
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: Francisco game is a good example because we're sitting there,

1157
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: we're doing the game, and you got the sound effects

1158
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: in the background, the rain pouring, and you've got, you know,

1159
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: the grunts, the shoulder pads and the sound effects in

1160
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: the background, and I think we pulled it off. We

1161
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: fooled a lot of people except for Lara in the

1162
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: background the last play of the game is laughing hysterically

1163
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: in the booth with us as DeForest Buckner gets that

1164
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: game ceiling or game wrapping up sack. I'm like, you

1165
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me. But it was great, It was great,

1166
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you know, you know? That was my

1167
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: favorite parts of the broadcast was if you know you know?

1168
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: And I actually felt for the first time a lot

1169
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: and I was in on the inside joke. I was like,

1170
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: I know what he's talking about. Lara's supposed to be

1171
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: down the field, like theater of the mine, Like you know,

1172
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: there's a there's a measurement, you know, it's fourth and inches. Lara,

1173
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: what do you see on the field, even though she's

1174
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: six feet away from me, the same studio, and they

1175
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: still bring perspect they're supposed to be on the field.

1176
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: And then we hear you in the background laughing six

1177
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: feet away from me, which is absolutely outstanding. Oh I

1178
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: could get it was just such a perfect finale to

1179
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: that day. Next on the podcast, I'll pull up that

1180
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: that highlight that clip you just hear you cack like

1181
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: in the background, which so epic. Well, because at that

1182
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: point I don't really have duties until we're getting set

1183
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: up for post games. I was kind of like just

1184
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: watching the last of the game and flipped into fangirl

1185
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: mode for a minute. But one thing to go back

1186
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: to what what Mike touched on with the cooperation of

1187
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: all the different teams, That's one thing for me is

1188
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: although Matt I was in most situations not far from you.

1189
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: Of course home games in twenty one, I was on

1190
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: the field and then we were in Miami, we were

1191
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: in Nashville, we had a couple of games where were

1192
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be in Baltimore. That's a conversation for another

1193
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: day too. But relying upon friends of mine who are

1194
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: the network sideline reporters who would text me certain things

1195
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: that they were seeing. I mean, they were just such

1196
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: team players and other teams, the home teams reporters and

1197
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: sideline reporters, we were trading information. I mean, you know,

1198
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: I was talking with Mattie Glab in Buffalo and she's

1199
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: texting me things from Buffalo, and friends of mine who

1200
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: are with the Cardinals or you know, San France, like

1201
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: friends of mine all across the league who were willing

1202
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: to say, hey, injury situation, it looks like this, this

1203
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: is what they're discussing, and we would do the same

1204
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: for them. It was just incredible. It was such a

1205
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: testament to the family that is behind the shield of

1206
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: the NFL and how willing people are, Like, yeah, it's

1207
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: competitive and teams are going head to head, but there's

1208
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: just such an immense empathy across the league for people

1209
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: who do our jobs at the other thirty one teams. Yeah,

1210
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: so especially in two twenty one because there was not

1211
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: an even playing field last year, unlike twenty twenty. You know,

1212
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: two twenty everybody's sort in the same boat. No one's

1213
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: really traveling and everybody's doing games virtually, and that just

1214
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: wasn't the case for every team. It was all sort

1215
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: of situational. Can you get to this game, can you

1216
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: not get to this game? Can you get back in

1217
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: a timely manner on Monday to do you know, wrap

1218
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: up stuff? So that was a lot of things to

1219
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: to juggle there, and hopefully we don't have to mess

1220
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: with that coming up this season. Sounds like we won't.

1221
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: But again, fingers crossed on that, and again Mike North, Yeah,

1222
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: there you go. Knock on wood, Mike North. Outstanding conversation

1223
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: there regarding the NFL schedule and some nuggets regarding the

1224
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: Colts two twenty two slate as well. All right, let's

1225
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: close out. Let's let's go to the thought of the week, right,

1226
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: random thought of the week. Here, there's Charlie. There's Charlie Kelly.

1227
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: She found it good poll right there. He Now, Charlie

1228
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: looks like he's in front of the whopper on that

1229
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: picture with everything going on in the background. As as

1230
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football is that overtaken Sunday Night Football now

1231
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: is the marquee game of the week. You got the

1232
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: broadcasters changing some of the matchups are better. That Mike

1233
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: alluded to. Is Monday Night now the night over Sunday Night? Casey?

1234
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it started with the broadcasters.

1235
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: The amount of money that they're paying for that it

1236
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: must be right. But isn't it Troy Aikman like livid

1237
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: once he sees what Tom Brady's gonna get right if

1238
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: I signed marched, guy's never buyers buyers remorse. You know,

1239
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: he he set the you know, he set the bar.

1240
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: That's what happens. You don't want to be the guy

1241
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: that sets the bar. You want to be the guy

1242
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: right after it. And that's what happened with Troy Aikman.

1243
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: So you know that's what happens. You know, Troy's really hurting, No,

1244
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: not at I mean, it's isn't it wild to think

1245
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: that we're in a We're in a world now where

1246
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: these broadcasters who had very successful NFL careers are making

1247
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: more as a broadcast. Tom Brady's going to retire and

1248
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: make more money in the booth than he did on

1249
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: the phone, believable to me. And he's, I mean, arguably

1250
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. Here's the irony,

1251
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: here's and I know we're getting off topic a little bit,

1252
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: but like he talked about when he was allegedly retiring

1253
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: that he, you know, we wanted to spend more time

1254
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: with his family and do all of this. And it's

1255
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: like white when you're broadcast, you're going back too, and

1256
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: in some ways it's like a lot of Yes, it's

1257
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: more film study, it's it is and now you're traveling out.

1258
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: You're never at home right now, you're every game. So

1259
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, like there's some irony and that um

1260
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: retired to spend more time with my family, and then

1261
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: you're immediately signing a deal to go to Fox Sports

1262
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: and you haven't even retired. So it's like, I don't know,

1263
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like clearly, clearly you're not retiring to

1264
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: spend more time. Jeffrey and I talked about this on

1265
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: the Last Word Friday. Are you guys, like how how

1266
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: prone to tuning in to an NFL game? Are you

1267
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: layer just for the broadcast booth? Very very rarely? Um,

1268
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's usually games for me. Yeah, it's

1269
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: the game I think zero. I honestly, it's one of

1270
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: those things that you know, I mean the market Manning Cast,

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Speaker 1: like sometimes I don't get a crap about the matchup whatsoever,

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, I want to hear what going back

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Speaker 1: to the beginning of this podcast and my you know,

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Speaker 1: my affinity for the first Family of Football. I do

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Speaker 1: agree with you though. The Manning cast was great and

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Speaker 1: it was a good alternative when it was Packers Lions

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Speaker 1: and I don't have a skin in the game and

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Speaker 1: I'm just sort of watching, you know, just strictly as

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Speaker 1: a fan. But even the Manning Cast when they would

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Speaker 1: get I honestly, I would enjoy the Manning cast better

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Speaker 1: if it was just the Mannings and they would sort

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Speaker 1: of ditch some of the guests. I felt like the

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Speaker 1: guests were going to the guests. Yeah, I can understand that.

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Speaker 1: I will say sometimes I will tune in, just as

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Speaker 1: someone who's in this business, I will tune in for

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Speaker 1: or certain reporters because I enjoy learning from how certain

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Speaker 1: reporters deliver things, Like I love to watch how Tom

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Speaker 1: Rinaldi has adapted to not only just being the best

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Speaker 1: storyteller that there is, I mean, light years above anyone

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Speaker 1: else in my opinion in terms of sports features and

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Speaker 1: the way he writes and narrates and all of those things.

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Speaker 1: But then he as a sideline reporter, he's outstanding. So

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Speaker 1: to me, he's really impressive the versatility that he's developed

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Speaker 1: since going to Fox and embracing some of those sideline rules.

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Speaker 1: So I do sometimes kind of watch just to try

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Speaker 1: to learn from how people do things differently and what

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Speaker 1: they bring to the sidelines, to try to take a

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Speaker 1: little inspiration or take a little knowledge from that and

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Speaker 1: incorporate into what we do as we try to evolve

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Speaker 1: and make our broadcasts better and more insightful for our fans.

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Speaker 1: Because I always think, and you guys know this, those

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Speaker 1: who are tuning in and I'm talking about like our

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Speaker 1: radio broadcasts being the home team broadcast, those are most

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Speaker 1: often your most knowledgeable, dedicated, passionate fans. So they have

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Speaker 1: read all the articles over the week, they've listened to

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Speaker 1: all of you, listen to the podcasts they've listened to,

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Speaker 1: you know, the radio shows, they've listened to press conferences.

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Speaker 1: So on Sunday, how are we delivering them something different

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Speaker 1: than all of what they've already consumed. Now with the

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Speaker 1: infinity of the Internet, blogs, articles, everything, in addition to

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Speaker 1: what we're providing, what am I bringing that's new on Sundays?

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Speaker 1: So I'm always challenging myself. Maytey, I know you and

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Speaker 1: Rick spend your entire week dedicated Casey, you on the

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Speaker 1: pregame and halftime show and postgame shows, all of that.

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Speaker 1: So I do look to certain broadcasters. I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: to see Melissa start back on the sideline this season,

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Speaker 1: so in terms of trying to adapt and make our

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Speaker 1: coverage even better, I do look to some of them

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Speaker 1: to try to compliment that when we're challenging ourselves to

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Speaker 1: bring something unique. And you're exactly right, I could not

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Speaker 1: agree with you more. I think though, the I think

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Speaker 1: that's maybe if you're just talking about the national audience

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Speaker 1: that's watching a game like the four twenty five Marquee

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Speaker 1: game on Fox or CBS. I think nine of your audience, though,

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Speaker 1: is just watching because they have a gambling interest or

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Speaker 1: they just love football, fantasy football, and so I just

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Speaker 1: think those people are watching the game regardless of who's

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Speaker 1: in the booth. I think, you know, my neighbor and

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Speaker 1: his neighbor next door could probably do the game and

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01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: they would still pull massive ratings because the matchup, the players,

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Speaker 1: the coaches, the game drives viewership. I just think having

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Speaker 1: a guy like Tom Brady or Drew Brees or Tony

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Speaker 1: Romos sort of the cherry on top that makes the

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Speaker 1: game feel even bigger, makes it even more of an event.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a flex between the networks. It's just

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Speaker 1: who can out arm race. Arms race is exactly what

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Speaker 1: it is. In my opinion, those guys aren't necessarily drawing

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Speaker 1: better numbers or this or that. It's just to say

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Speaker 1: we've got one over on CBS or we've got one

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Speaker 1: over on e S. But it is over on NBC.

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Speaker 1: It is fascinating though. I mean, whatever the number was

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Speaker 1: on Tom Brady was a thirty five million a year

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01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: or forty million, fifty million dollar contract I believe, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for over ten years, so whatever, it's an enormous amount

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Speaker 1: of money. Text message, I'm glad, you're glad you really

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Speaker 1: looked at it. Let's sell you the article, so thanks.

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Speaker 1: Like look the headline. I needed to know, I don't

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Speaker 1: mean it. Last week, a lot of things happen over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Llos mean there's it's an enormous amount of

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Speaker 1: money bottom line for ratings that I think are already there.

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Speaker 1: What you get, Yeah, that's in the ballpark. It's close,

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Speaker 1: it's close, but Tom's got a little ways to go.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll he'll get there though. Another couple of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls and bring that name recognition up a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see anything else we missed? Any any parting shots

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Speaker 1: you guys want to take here as we wrap up, Lara,

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Speaker 1: what's the website for Oxford, Missouri or Mississippi? Here Chamber

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Speaker 1: of Commerce ready backslash Oxford. So I thought, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Good stuff this week and again Mike

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Speaker 1: North was fantastic. Coming up tomorrow Wednesday, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: an interview with another Colts player in studio. Already Week

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01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: five of the off season workout program Man week was,

1363
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: there's nine weeks from Rondy in week five, So the

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01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: mini camp in June's gonna be here before you know?

1365
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: What's what? Really quickly does nine weeks? Just hearing that

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Speaker 1: give you like a little shutter from like school, like

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: I was always quarter, I was always really good until

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Speaker 1: you got to the comments and it was like talks

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Speaker 1: too much in class, easily distracted. I always got an

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Speaker 1: eye ours it was needs improvements. I had a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of in eyes. My parents are always like citizenship,

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Speaker 1: whatever that means. But a citizenship you got needs improvement,

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I guess I need to improve somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and vote improve your citizenship. You got in

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Speaker 1: eyes across the board now exactly. I love it us.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on Friday, We're gonna continue to break down

1377
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: the Colts skill players on offense, and you guys will

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01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: appreciate this because we all love this man. We've got

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01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: an interview with Jimmy Maddog made us. He announced his

1380
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: retirement earlier this month. We're gonna talk to Dog about

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Speaker 1: what's next and all that he's accomplished in radio, the

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Speaker 1: legend that he is here in Central Indiana and the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Icon. Jimmy Maddog made us on the show Friday

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Speaker 1: on the Last Word, Lara Overton, Casey Valley, I'm Matt Taylor,

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01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: JJ Stangovitz back in the Fold. Coming up next week,

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Speaker 1: We thank you for listening. We're breaking down the Colts

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Speaker 1: every Tuesday here on the Colts Official Podcast. As always

1388
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: a rate review and subscribe, give us those five star

1389
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: ratings if you can. If you like what you've heard,

1390
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: and come back for more next Tuesday here in the

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Speaker 1: Colts Official Podcast. So Long,