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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another additional club. Sha I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor the guy that's coming

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Speaker 1: by for a drinking conversation today. Is a Super Bowl champ.

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Speaker 1: He's a National champ. He was a unanimous All American.

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Speaker 1: He's a Heisman Trophy finance in nineteen ninety four, a

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Speaker 1: seven time pro bowler, four time first Team All Pro,

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Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Player of the Year, an NFL All Decade Player,

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Speaker 1: Teams of the nineties, and the two thousand Bucks Ring

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Speaker 1: of Honor retired number ninety nine Hall of Famer first ballot.

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Speaker 1: One of the few defensive tackles get I can say

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Speaker 1: I went in on the first ballot. My dog ward

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Speaker 1: South O Jesus did no. I'm just asking you. Got you?

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Speaker 1: I like to win this South on the All Florida team.

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Speaker 1: One of the top thirty three thousand. All my life,

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Speaker 1: running all my life, second fights, cusack fights. One slice

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Speaker 1: got the bron dice to swap all my life. I've

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Speaker 1: been grinding all my life, rush all my life, grinding

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Speaker 1: all my life. Sacond fice, tustle back to prices. One

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Speaker 1: slice got the bron dice to swap all my life.

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Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life. How are you doing? Bro?

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Speaker 1: I am excellent brother. Right now. This is the first

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Speaker 1: March Madness that we didn't have. Or you have your

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Speaker 1: own team. And it said vive in the dance, surviving

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Speaker 1: the dance. So that's what I'm doing right now. So

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Speaker 1: I know you're a big fisherman. Tail about the last

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Speaker 1: time you've been fishing anything you called worth mentioning? Brother?

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Speaker 1: I went on my birthday, which was December of the

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Speaker 1: nineteen Okay, skate, I escaped down the coast of Ricord,

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Speaker 1: which is flat calm. I can take you out there

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Speaker 1: because your love if flat calm, if you want to

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Speaker 1: go on the front, because I can't be doing all that,

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Speaker 1: all that, all that rocket. No, no in the rocket,

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Speaker 1: flat calm. I mean I take the old lady with me,

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Speaker 1: flat calm. Okay, one hundred pound tuna fifty five inches dog? What? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And we cut him up. We cut him up. You

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Speaker 1: gotta eat it on the boat. Come on, you gotta

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Speaker 1: freeze him up real good, about a good forty five

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Speaker 1: hour and then buddy go slicing that thing. Put that

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Speaker 1: with savvy and that so exhaustion now, oh, my god,

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Speaker 1: don't get the fresher in that? When when the last

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Speaker 1: time you called it a trophy fish? Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: know you're a big trophy fisherman. You know what. I

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Speaker 1: got in the water with a nice hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: pounds sail and went swimming with him, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and other than that, I don't. I don't take him

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Speaker 1: out of the water, and I don't. I don't keep

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Speaker 1: him unless I'm eating. If I ain't, If I ain't,

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Speaker 1: if I look it, I'm cooking it. If I'm not,

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Speaker 1: then I'm releasing him because it's for somebody else. Votes.

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Speaker 1: So you hadn't had anything, You had to back the

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Speaker 1: boat down to it a minute, nahn just sail, we

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Speaker 1: back down because that's just how you do it. But

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Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't had no maling on the line

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Speaker 1: in a minute. Boy, I want one too. Dog dog dog,

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Speaker 1: You know idea that that dog that thing go to

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Speaker 1: screaming and the cap look at you and they go

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Speaker 1: to rail and everything down and you over the end

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Speaker 1: of that thing and he says, get wet. It's nothing

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Speaker 1: better than that water. I don't staff. I don't think

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Speaker 1: people that's never been deep s it's deep sea fishing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they understand how tedious, how tired, because

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Speaker 1: you have to understand that fish. No, something is trying

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Speaker 1: to get him up out that water. So he's fighting

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Speaker 1: for his life and he's like, okay, well I got him.

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Speaker 1: Now he's tired. And then all of a sudden he

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Speaker 1: hit it. Hey, that's that's when he breaks you. Right now,

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Speaker 1: that's when I ask for the coolest life. And I

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Speaker 1: tell him pull it right here, pull it right in

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Speaker 1: my mouth, dog, because I'm gonna keep really, I'm not

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Speaker 1: letting about this. Look, I'm gonna keep that line tight.

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Speaker 1: And he don't. He gotta come to the We're gonna start.

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Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna do. We're gonna start forward.

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Speaker 1: It will work out. Believe back to the early years.

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Speaker 1: Who is your twenty twenties, who you got going to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, the NFC representative, AFC representative, and who

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Speaker 1: wins when it's all setting done in your home talent,

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Speaker 1: in your backyard of Tampa. The first time in NFL

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Speaker 1: history a hundred and one years, we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: home team playing in their home stadium, and all my

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucaneers versus them is the City Chiefs. That's

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Speaker 1: where I'm going. I'm not dog. We are in sync

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Speaker 1: right now. Tom Brady can hit a B on that

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Speaker 1: post route. Now it ain't off no more, and we are. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna need forty to beat us. You're gonna need forty.

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Speaker 1: You like it, You like the win, your defense, player,

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Speaker 1: because you ain't about my defense right now, the new

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Speaker 1: NFL ain't buy no defense. Defense don't win no championships.

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Speaker 1: Defense gives you a chance. No no listening to me. Now.

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Speaker 1: Defense gives you a chance. In your offense, in your

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, quarterback has to win it for you.

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Speaker 1: That's that we keep track of fourth quarter comeback. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many fourth quarter games saving game in

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Speaker 1: the second call from us I've got. I don't know

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Speaker 1: nothing about that. They don't keep track of that, but

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Speaker 1: they keep tracking Brady fourth quarters. All I want to know.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how I get to a

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Speaker 1: man that's a two time All Decade player, NFL Defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year, and this man go tell me

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Speaker 1: he ain't talking about no defense, about offense. Offense. Dog,

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Speaker 1: what game you've been watching for the last twelve years

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Speaker 1: since we've been sitting around this thing. Dog they've built

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Speaker 1: the out of bloods down the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: Ain't him up? John list hit him under the chair? Uh.

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Speaker 1: They run across the middle of the field waving their

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Speaker 1: hand dog. They don't know if it's man zone. They

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Speaker 1: just know that they could catch it and they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get hit. And you can't punish the quarterback. That's

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Speaker 1: that's why you see all these that's all you see

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Speaker 1: all these video game numbers. The quarterback. No, I'm protected.

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Speaker 1: I only I can only hit him right here, sap.

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Speaker 1: I can only hit him in the lettering of the uniform,

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Speaker 1: and you can't landing on him. That was the pillow. Dog.

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Speaker 1: That was the reason why I brought you brought the

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Speaker 1: quarterback cube. That was my pillow. You got the dogs

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Speaker 1: wild right now? How much how much credit, how much

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Speaker 1: influence of having Tom Brady in dot Tampa Bay locker

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Speaker 1: room has been? You know, when you look at the

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Speaker 1: success that they've had this year eleven and five, the

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Speaker 1: first time in the playoffs and in almost two decades,

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Speaker 1: how much credit does Tom Brady deserve? All of it?

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Speaker 1: All of it? I mean, when Tom's not. When Tom

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Speaker 1: throwed a couple of picks sixes early in the year,

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Speaker 1: it looked like he had a little glimpses of Jamimes

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Speaker 1: Winston and the forty three year old quarterback aren't gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to do what he does. It was all

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Speaker 1: over Tom. That defense hasn't changed. They were talking about

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Speaker 1: how much stopping the run they do. I'm like, we

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Speaker 1: don't run the ball in this league no more. This

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Speaker 1: is a fifty pass league. And if you can't rush

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Speaker 1: the passer or stop the quarterback, you're in trouble. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of defenses are in trouble every week in

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Speaker 1: this league. Jennet, when you when you look at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position, now are Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Josh Allen, what quarter what quarterback

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Speaker 1: do you like? If you like? You know what, if

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Speaker 1: I'm on the team, I won't help Patrick Mahomes for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love I love what Aaron Rodgers does,

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Speaker 1: and we always talk about he liked that and all

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Speaker 1: of this, but this boy is doing some stuff that

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Speaker 1: we've never seen in this game. Dog, I was watching

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay because you know me, I like to

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Speaker 1: big butts because that's that's the way we would talk

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Speaker 1: to look at it, right, So that's seventy five yard passed.

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Speaker 1: He threw the tarik. He was looking at Kelsey and

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Speaker 1: the other boy and peaked over and saw it and

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Speaker 1: just lust it. No, look, man, you don't do that

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Speaker 1: seventy five yards like that. Help was sick with it.

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Speaker 1: He's special with it. So let me ask your question.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't lose championships with Anon Rogers Livon though.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, right, all Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: who's doing a who guinea at in Houston with nobody

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Speaker 1: around it? Right, do you believe the numbers that we're

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Speaker 1: seeing and all I'm talking about for the quarterback position?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's a direct reflection of how they've

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Speaker 1: the quarterback or anybody. You can't hear the soul. We

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Speaker 1: are playing a wide open seven on seven game, and

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Speaker 1: you know you wouldn't. We watched An Donald sought the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and have four sacks and they still score fifty

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Speaker 1: four points in that ball game. I'm thinking to myself,

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Speaker 1: there's no quarterback that would be alive after the third

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Speaker 1: stay because if I if I sat there three times,

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Speaker 1: that'd be I hit him six or seven times. He is, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he is, he loves it right now. He's spinning room,

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Speaker 1: spinning like he's dropped you. You grew up in a

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Speaker 1: small town called Plymouth, Florida. Oh, tell me a little

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Speaker 1: bit about your upbringing. You know when I was raised

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Speaker 1: by five black women, my grandmom, my mom my, U,

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Speaker 1: my two sisters. And you know what that was. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of hard, tough love. You you don't get

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Speaker 1: did you know that? Boy? And orders, duties and more

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Speaker 1: more orders, more duties, more chores. And you know they

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Speaker 1: found football. I mean, my older brothers are twelve, nine,

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Speaker 1: So when I got to finally play with somebody my

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Speaker 1: I was like that all you got. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the only movie you've got. I mean like like like

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Speaker 1: like you and your brother. You know, dog, I never

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Speaker 1: wanted my backyard dog. When I was watching your speech, Dog,

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Speaker 1: I was crying with you, dog because I felt you.

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Speaker 1: I never wanted my old backyard dog. My brother tortured me,

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Speaker 1: all three of them. It wouldn't let you. Oh, we

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Speaker 1: won't let him win. Let him win, and you better

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Speaker 1: not cry. Though. They won't play with you for about

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Speaker 1: a month. Dog, it's over. But it kept you coming

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Speaker 1: back because you wanted to win so bad. You just

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Speaker 1: want to have one. I just want to wear one game.

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Speaker 1: Just no, no, I just want to be in the day.

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Speaker 1: Why I got a shot them in this sucker, because

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Speaker 1: then I'm going out to talk about all the good

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Speaker 1: players I had and need to go hit me with

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Speaker 1: did you win? And you know you gotta just going

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Speaker 1: by this time, but I'm gonna come back tomorrow. So,

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Speaker 1: growing up, what was your favorite sport to play of

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Speaker 1: a kid? Football? Football was that? Man? Just come on, man,

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Speaker 1: if you were anything like me growing up in the

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Speaker 1: seventy you're a little older than me, but it was.

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Speaker 1: It was the Cowboys stealers out west, it was the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: and if you were in South Florida, you were mesmerized

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Speaker 1: by this mythical team that nobody else saw play. I

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Speaker 1: ain't never seen a Doffing player. I seen no seventy though,

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Speaker 1: so I was a Cowboy fan, but I always thought

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Speaker 1: I needed to stall my help man. And Tony said,

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Speaker 1: that moved you know that that would it? Come on? Man?

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Speaker 1: Thats I mean, that's why I look at kids nowadays

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Speaker 1: this we three in the stees you know, were known

423
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: with bet Arkansas ninety nine yard pressed. I'll come back.

424
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: So Bob cap millerways walks up to me, God bless

425
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: her soul and says, young man, I've seen Cortez and

426
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: Russell and another be capital, he said, and you're better

427
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: than all three of them. I said what I said, Man,

428
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: you lost your man. Man, I'm gonna go over here

429
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 1: and play tight end. I'm gonna lose me some weight.

430
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm catch me a couple of ball and those your

431
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: own comes in the national champion coach at LSU. Listen,

432
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: big fella, I haven't seen Russell j Rown and all up.

433
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I got to film in them in

434
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 1: the cars. It over there. I'm telling you, country boy,

435
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: to be better than all of 'em. So they truck.

436
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: They convinced me to go run with them for you know,

437
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Just run. They don't put me

438
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: in no run drill, Shannon. They only allowed me to

439
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: rush the past. They only got me in past rustrill.

440
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: No first team or second team guy will go against me.

441
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: They only give me the the the bottom of the

442
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: baron right. So you know I'm whooping them right. I

443
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 1: got I got sneaky long arms, and you know I'm

444
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 1: pretty I'm pretty athletic. So man, I was I was thinking,

445
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: this is like playing tight in. I just got the

446
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: moving one way going up and then yeah, I just

447
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: got a movie. You know, I moved them hips. I

448
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: can get where I want to go. Man, All of

449
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: a sudden, I got a taste in my mouth, and

450
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: off I went though, did you know the history of

451
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: the U D. Lineman because that you mentioned Jerome Brown,

452
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: Jay Bugget, they got tears, tears came out with me

453
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: with the sick of pick in the draft Russell Maryland.

454
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: But they had they had Danny Jill Bert, Jim Burt. Yeah,

455
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: the original three folk knows, Ruben Carter. Yeah, they're on

456
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: the wall in the Griddis room when you walk in here. Yeah,

457
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: that's that's the story that Dwayne Johnson tells all the time.

458
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: When I walked in the room because Oceano told me

459
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: going the room, just sit down and wait for everybody

460
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: to pick their seat, and then you pick a seat

461
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: in the Grittis room because these are cherrysh spots. They

462
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: don't just don't let anybody in the grinds. So I'm

463
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: sitting in the first chair. Dwayne Johnson coming through the

464
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: woman and ask me what are you doing here? And

465
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: I looked at himself. I'm here for your job, you

466
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: know me, I gotta have something come back. I mean,

467
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: I was just here, come here from your job. So

468
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: so then there's a freshman that comes in Ray Lewis.

469
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: What was your first impression when you met Ray and

470
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: did you know he was gonna be what he became. Okay,

471
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: you know you don't pay no attention to no freshman

472
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: when they come in, and especially the last one that

473
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: I gotta stop Ray that was the last one ratated.

474
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: He was the last kind of ship they gave up

475
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: that we playing, and we're trying to, you know, go

476
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: up in the season because you know, we were fighting

477
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: for national championship. All of a sudden, my middle linebacker

478
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: gets hurt. We gotta go to Colorado, go play the

479
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: bus in Colorado on the road. I ain't got no

480
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: middle Lineback of a sudden, seventeen year old ray lewis

481
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: walking here, still got sand souls in the back of

482
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: the head channel. I ain't lying to your brother, still

483
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: wet behind the ear, stands in front of this huddle

484
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: and tries to call the defense and go. You can't.

485
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I said, son,

486
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: if you're gonna stand in front of this thing, you're

487
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: gonna stand like a man, You're gonna talk like a man,

488
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna play like a man. Did you hit me?

489
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: He looked at me. S I got you a big dog,

490
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: change too, ready, ship, I said, I asked, what it

491
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: sounds like, twenty tackles and it'll step shit later. He

492
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: was on his way to becoming that monster that we know,

493
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: the dog. Is it safe to say to start middle linebacker?

494
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: Never got a job at never Wally Pippton Dog. We

495
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: never heard from Basiclyain did you recruit right? No? No,

496
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. The hot recruit that year was Jamie German.

497
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: Me and Rohan Lali drove all the way over the

498
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: Fort Myers when he played back. Yeah, yeah, the wide receiver.

499
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: That was the hot recruit in that year. Ninety three

500
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: it was Jamie German and the year but it was

501
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: heferd Jamie German something like that. Oh Dfert was in

502
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: ninety two and then Jamie German and uh Ray was

503
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: in that class. But he was the last one. He

504
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: really wouldn't know, Hollywood, Holly Tyler got He just grew

505
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: into the monster that we know because he worked so

506
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: damn hard at it. That's what's his thing. He worked

507
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: at it. Dwayne Johnson And I don't know if people

508
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: know this the Dwayne Johnson we're talking about. If the

509
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: Duwayne Johnson you think we're talking about the rock, he

510
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: said Warren sapp was is the reason that I meant

511
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: acting stop that. What type of player was it? On

512
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, he was a six

513
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: and I was and I was an aid in college,

514
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, right, so he's two steps down.

515
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he just he was an adequate player. But

516
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna make that play for you, you know

517
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, he wasn't gonna dominate the game.

518
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna take it over, but he holy he'd

519
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: be good enough for you to, you know, not lose

520
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: the game for me, right, I put it in that time.

521
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: So that wasn't like to be on a field, you know.

522
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: You know, I played up with a small college and

523
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: I'm the dominant guy, and so I know every day

524
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm the best player out there. But you go out

525
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: there and then you see all these other five star

526
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: recruits and you see all these other guys that's gonna

527
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: be future first round picks, some of them gonna be

528
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: Hall of famers. What is practice like? Oh my god?

529
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: Because you know back then practice and practy we thunding up.

530
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: We put people on the ground. They don't know no,

531
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: no we hit, we hit They gotta they gotta call

532
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: us all you Clay, don't take him to the ground.

533
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: We gotta get thug, but don't take him to the ground.

534
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: You're crazy. Dog. In college, it was a dog eat

535
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: dog treat practice field. We go out there, man and

536
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: just obliterate each other. I mean just oh Rohan, Molly Ray.

537
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: They loved to hit. And then C. J. Richardson was

538
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: in the back of my safety. Dog. You would get

539
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: licked up because you know what's up. And I tell

540
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: people it wasn't about about well, I don't need to

541
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: like hurt him because we got a game to play. Nah, bro,

542
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: it is what it is, and we're playing this game. Dog,

543
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: you better protect yourself. That's why I was called bang

544
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: ag as soon as you it was a bag get

545
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: big because you go get hit regardless if you catch

546
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: it or not. When when when you were in college

547
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: and you're playing with Dwayne Johnson, did you know he

548
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: would turn out to beat what he became? Did he

549
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: have that kind of personality? Did he have that kind

550
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: of Careersma, listen, he did, but he kept it hidden.

551
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: He's the kind of guy that you'd let your sister date.

552
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean, real good guy, real charismatic. But the thing

553
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: about him was we always used to say it to him,

554
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: like do it this football fan, don't work out, you're

555
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: gonna go wrestling. He'd be like you damn right. And

556
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: I mean Rocky Johnson was his daddy and the Flying

557
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Snooker Brothers was his uncle's, so it was in his blood.

558
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: He just took all those sayings that was ed Ocean,

559
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: that candy ass and shoving it sideway. Oh my god,

560
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: that's what ed Ocean used to talk to us if

561
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: we had a bad practice or a bad game. That's

562
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: how he used to talk to us, just like that.

563
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: So when I first saw it, because Brooks is the

564
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: wrestling fan, Brooks Brooks like, you gotta see this set,

565
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what? What? Man? You took over the TV,

566
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: got Tony Dungy to make me late to the room.

567
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna watch something else on the TV tonight. Man, No, no,

568
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: you gotta watch this. So you know you gotta wait

569
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: the whole hour until you get to the main the bit, right,

570
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: So I didn't do it a whole forty minutes of

571
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: wrestling at twenty nine years old. I want to kill

572
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: Brooks at this point, right, come on Man Brooks, Derry Brooks, Now,

573
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: I'm fifty five in your program number nine hundred forty

574
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: two in your heart when it's wrestling time, because he's

575
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: gonna watch it and all of us. A sudden, the smoke,

576
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: the lights, everything sets off, and oh my god, my

577
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: mouth hit the flow. Dog, my mouth hit the flow.

578
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: I was watching my teammate and he was no longer

579
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: the guy that was behind me. He was up front,

580
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: the spinner. The stage was his, and he was giving

581
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: it to h I fell in love it. I said,

582
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: you know what, dog, we can watch the Rock on

583
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: Thursday nights in here. Now you know what I'm saying.

584
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: I guess won't watch the other forty minutes, so I

585
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: just watch, said to him. And then, oh, he coming

586
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: on is about to be over, So I can deal

587
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: with that. Of all the great players, this is gonna

588
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: be I want to I want to get you on

589
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: this one. Who's on your mind? Rushmore of you and players? Yeah, yeah,

590
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: you got you got Ray Lewis, you got every you

591
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: got Jay Bugett, you got casts, you got Jester Birdie.

592
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: There's one right here. Jam motto, okay, yeah, jam motto.

593
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: And then I'm going with Jerome Brown, okay, representing the

594
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: defensive line. I'm gonna go, oh, Michael Irving, because you

595
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: can't have you, can't have you you you, you would

596
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: have to play me. And then then I'm gonna bring

597
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: it to the to the new School. I'm gonna put it.

598
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Sean Kayle up there because nobody is

599
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: going on with the great Sean Taylor's sitting on the

600
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: much more. That's my fault right there. Go on old

601
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: line d line wide receiver in dB because you guys

602
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: had them. I mean you think about you and mentioned

603
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: Benny Blade hog smell. Nope, come on, Andre James number three,

604
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: three six, going into the Hall of Fame with us

605
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, who's about to crush every Rose Bowl regularly,

606
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: the history of the one. They had to call him off.

607
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: The boys out there in two thousand and one, I mean,

608
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: we got some dogs. Now, we got some dogs. The

609
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: Kynes team of old one. I believe that is the

610
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: greatest team in college football history. When you look at

611
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: who they had on their roster, you look at the

612
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: guys that went in the draft in the first round,

613
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and you look at what they became in the NFL.

614
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: Now if I give you the ninety five corn Huskers,

615
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: the old four Trojans, eighty eight Notre Dame, two thousand, Oklahoma,

616
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: where would you rank that two thousand and one Kings team?

617
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: Number one? I mean number one. I just can't see

618
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: a weakness that football team. I mean, it took a

619
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: referee throwing the latest flag we've ever seen in the

620
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: National Championship game to get to take that trophy away

621
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: from us. But you know, Ohia, they played a good game.

622
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: But boy, that was an immense amount of talent on

623
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: a football fielding You talk about Brian McKinney, Shocky mc gayheat, poorness,

624
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: all of it. In the back. I mean the back

625
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: in the backfield got what sixteen, sixteen, eleven and ten,

626
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: they got thirty four I'm on forty thousand yards in

627
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's crazy. And you think about Sean Taylor

628
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: was on that team, Ed Reid and Trail Roll, that's

629
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: John You Bilma was a middle backer, Billau. They had

630
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: Viz Walforck, yep Klais Campbell, Jimmy Green. That team was load.

631
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't think people really how good that team was

632
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: because you're running back with Frank Gore Williams mcgahey and

633
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Clinton port Port Us. And you do realize that two

634
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: and here there was twenty twenty and Frank Gore is

635
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: still in the NFL, the third all time leading rush

636
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: the sixteen thousand yards. There's only two other men to

637
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: say that in their life on two repair days, DL

638
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: needs and one of them happening in high school. Yeah, Stap,

639
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: you go, you go to the combine, O, What's what's

640
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: your process? He's like, Okay, I did this. I'm a

641
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: unanimous All American. I won the Lombardy. I'm the baddest

642
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: defensive player here. Okay, talk about the interview process, the testing,

643
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: what's going on? Nothing. I was just there. I epped up,

644
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean with Sean Saloon, God bless

645
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: his soul. That's a good buddy of mine. And you

646
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: know we hadn't went through the whole little banquet US,

647
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, All American team. He was the offensive player

648
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: of year, was a defensive player to year, all up

649
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: to the heisman, you know, off to camp, all these things.

650
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: And my brother won the Heisman that night and he

651
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: pulled out a little little joint and men him hit

652
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: it to Catherin and I put it down. I said,

653
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: that's I gotta go to combine twenty three nanograms Shannon

654
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: in the cutoff was twenty That's stuff, and that's my

655
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: life story in a in a nutshell right there, one

656
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: silly night, one bad mistake. Wasn't about the interviews, because

657
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: what were you gonna say to me? I tell you

658
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: look at to take. I had twelve games and pick

659
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: the game you want to watch. At six foot two,

660
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: three hundred and twelve pounds, you ran a four six nine.

661
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: Did you think going into the combine that you were

662
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: going to be the number one pick in the draft? Two? Jacksonville,

663
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to Carolina. Wasn't nothing about me.

664
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: Carolina and number of prisons in pig phones in North Carolina.

665
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: That's right. In colleges and a bunch of colleges. I

666
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: give him that, But Carolina wasn't a spot for me.

667
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to Jacksonville. I be in the

668
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: state of Florida, have a chance to play in front

669
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: of my home state, my home mom gets drive buck

670
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: drive back. You know that old old thing. You know,

671
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: you want to be home. You know it's country boy.

672
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: If you're like being right when you look at it.

673
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Kajana Carter ends up going first overall to UH to

674
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: the Bengo, Steve McNair's third to Houston, and then there's

675
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: a run on defensive lineman Kevin Carter, Mike Mamula, Derek Alexander.

676
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: What you're sitting you you're sitting in at home, and

677
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: so I'm at the draft. I'm in the draft. I

678
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: was the first and Rogers. But in two thousand and

679
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, baby, they did you boy rolled up

680
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: and left. I would tell you like this said, I

681
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: looked up and you know when Kevin Carter went UH

682
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: six after after carry Collins went. I looked at the list.

683
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: I said, okay, Kajanna Carter had eighteen hundred yards. But

684
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: Shelley was a big bad boy over there. You have

685
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: to see a mcnah ran and threw the ball all

686
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: over the world. So I can't I can't complain with

687
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: that death. Folk was Michael Westbrook. That was the mistake

688
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: by the Washington for ball team. We won't call them

689
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: what they was at the time. You know what I'm saying,

690
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna be completeically correct. You know I'm saying, we

691
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: gonna stop it right there and I was just looking

692
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: at the list. So I leaned over to my mama.

693
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: When we got to h mister Brady and the jet screaming,

694
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: we won't sat because that was that was when the

695
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: building was about to cover loops right then, if you know,

696
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: jet fans wanted to kill somebody, and like, why we

697
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: got a chance to get saving. We take a guy

698
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: who caught how many times out I don't know how

699
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: many hands, but it wasn't very many still outbreak. So

700
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: I leaned over to my mother, said, they can take

701
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: all the receivers, tight ends and whatever they want, but

702
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: if they take one defensive tackle, we gonna get up

703
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: and were walking out of here. That's that's the line

704
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: I drew Shan Okay said you can take all the

705
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: ded line back and whatever you think y'all need is

706
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: go take it. But if you take Ellis Johnson, I'm

707
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: walking about it here because that's a disrespect and I

708
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: ain't gonna stand for that. They take Mike Mamula with

709
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: the sell the pick Philly. He was the first workout

710
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: warrior at the combine that blew everybody the way he

711
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: ran four three five, jump, lifted all that rod jumped

712
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: ten eight, all this, yeah, all that, Yeah, put the

713
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: tape on. So it's going out. Obviously you said two

714
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: almost three hours. You're sitting there. Tampa is on the clock.

715
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, listen, Rosa House got a call. He tell me, yeah,

716
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: I got I think this, Tampa. I'm like, you know,

717
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm done. I'm like Tampa, boy, and

718
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: Tampa Tampa, y'all got eleven straight double digit lost season,

719
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: and y'all questioning whether to take the best player. It

720
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: ain't even on the board in the whole damn draft

721
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: that's left right now. You kidding me? You couldn't trade

722
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: away three picks right now for me, boy, And one

723
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: was Guinny Green was sitting right there and told the

724
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: people the night before the only person worrited to move

725
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: up in this draft, the draft is one step he took.

726
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: Derek Alexander I took out with personally, God bless you're

727
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: so did I want to talk bad about you to day?

728
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: So I told him. So I get on the phone. Sam,

729
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: wife's like we're thinking about taking I was like, Drew,

730
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: get this phone. I'm like, you just get this phone. Man.

731
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't care anymore. I don't care anymore right now.

732
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: You know I won't out of here right now. I

733
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: wasn't even planning on going to the draft. I was

734
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna be at home, a country born in the back

735
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: yard with the barbecue. They then gave me the whole

736
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: top floor to marry out. My key laid me out.

737
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I got a broom with a hot tub and everything

738
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: in it. I ain't never had nothing like that looking

739
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: out over New York. They didn't bad. You get drafted

740
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: by the Bucks. You going to town for twelve, Like

741
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned, they had at least a decade of double

742
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: digit losing Caesars. You have some I liked the cream

743
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: Sikle uniform because you got it. They had the cream fickle.

744
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: They didn't have a newer the cream fickle real nice.

745
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I made a deal. I traded harder Ni because from

746
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: where you had the pro bowl. I got with him

747
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: cream fickle helmet. I get you. I get you A

748
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: nine nine. I need I need that? Yeah? That would

749
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: I need that? Would I need that? Nine nine? I

750
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: got you? What was the first thing Warren sat bought

751
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: with some of that NFL money My mama house and

752
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: my Mama Mercedes being three twenty s class. I remember

753
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: taking my mama to the Mercedes being placed dog because

754
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna get her to drive her a new

755
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: car over to the house, right, you know, because my

756
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: mama had never had a new car, and I like,

757
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, my my mom got a funny said, but

758
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: I ain't never had a car. Nobody else else farted in, so,

759
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, we had to get that second hand car. Weet,

760
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do, sad. And then

761
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: pallet that laid down in the back. That when you

762
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: had to let the seat up and get in the back.

763
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: That nobody want to sit in the back. Yeah, yeah,

764
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. So and the LTG,

765
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: that long cuffing dangerous dog. I went and got. I

766
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: went to the Mercedes ben dealing ship with my mama.

767
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: Had a line up, I said, Mama, picked the color

768
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: you want? What? What? What? Mam gonna pick the color

769
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: you want and the car you want and then you

770
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: got to go catch dry. Then my home boys sitting

771
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: in the back, you know, the being big back then,

772
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, but big on fire. My home boy wasn't

773
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: by five seven. He back that swinging his feet up

774
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: in the air. He said, man, it's like sitting down

775
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the city bus, man, I do I had to buy,

776
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: I said, we buy this day dog. Then we gonna

777
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: drive around to the house. So I got my mom

778
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: in a brand new car. I say, drive over here

779
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: to this address. Okay, she's driving over there. We over

780
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: on Pop the violent road that's over there in the

781
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: good part of the time when the back lake city

782
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: amongst the lakes, told my mom up on a four

783
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars crib upstairs, a little spot hide the

784
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: way where I can get it. I can come in

785
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: the garage and go up there. She won't even know

786
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: him in there, and four of the bedrooms over there,

787
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: big nasty pool on the back end covered in. Walked

788
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: up to the door and I had the lady standing there.

789
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: And the lady standing there, she said, you want to

790
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: come inside and look. I'm gonna saying I want to

791
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: look inside. I brought the keys from the lady. I said, Mom,

792
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: you ain't got to go look inside. This one is yours,

793
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: skinking GINGI She said, what I said, that was jo

794
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: the dude you walk there. She went in there with

795
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: the crime and you know how they dog They just

796
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: of course, just one of the moments that you just

797
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: live for. And that was my day. You mentioned rest

798
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: his soul. Slam White drafted you, but Tony Dungeon comes in.

799
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: Tell me the impact that Tony had not only on Tampa,

800
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: but on you. I was at the Super Bowl with

801
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: John Randall and Derek Thomas, God bless your soul. We're

802
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: doing a line of challenge down in the waters, and

803
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: everybody came up to him. It was like, oh, you

804
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: got the man, you got the man. I'm like, like, oh,

805
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: Tony down Jamano. And you know, I'm a young player.

806
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't know who Tony Dungeon was in Kansas City

807
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: with Neil Smith and Derek Thomas doing all that. You know,

808
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: I went to Minnesota and him and money is you know,

809
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: riching this this, this two things together. I don't know that.

810
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm a young player, just trying to get m feet wet,

811
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: trying to you know, not not fall out the league

812
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: in three years, you know what I'm saying. Right, So

813
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: they're telling me all these good stuff about ton So

814
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: I got to go home. I gotta go si this

815
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: man and your brother. So you know, I ain't never

816
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: had no black coach in my life, you know, never,

817
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: So I just shoot back to tamp I walk in

818
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: this thing. I'm plowing through the building. He meets me.

819
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: I guess somebody told him I was somewhere coming in

820
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: the building. He say, I'm looking for you. I'm looking

821
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: for you. I had to come to my office. So

822
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: we went around to his office. I sat in the

823
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: coaches off, the first time I ever sat in the

824
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: coaches I was looking at another brother. I'm like, boy,

825
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: it's damn good. I can't wait to tell my mother.

826
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know what kind of man

827
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: he is, you know right. No, he looks at me

828
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: and he said, I want you to do the same

829
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: thing you did at my end. I said, whoa, whoa,

830
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: whoa coach? Do you know what that entails? He said,

831
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: what does that entail? I said, that's trump or a

832
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: run on my way to the quarterback. He said, I

833
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: like the way that sounds. And we never had another

834
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: discussion about one shot play though he turned me a loose.

835
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: You do realize, I think the thing is is that

836
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: he envisioned you like the Steelers. You Joe Green. They're

837
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: gonna put him at that under tackle and the dog

838
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: he told me, and Brooks this after you know, he

839
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: got us both together. He said, you're you are Joe

840
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: Green and you are Jack Hammon. Joe Green had ten

841
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: straight Pro Bowls, four World Championships, and two Defensive Players

842
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: of the Year. That's what you're chasing and need, he

843
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: read off, Jack Hammon Brooks. Me and Brooks looked at

844
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: each other and say, let me got some work to do.

845
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: I said, it gonna be fun. Brooks, Hey, let's see

846
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: what we got. If he's gonna let us play, it

847
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: had the freedom that he says, he don't let me go.

848
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: I play this man he did a week or twice

849
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: on something. You start, they play your company. You know,

850
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: you got a defense named after they call it Tampa two.

851
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: He got a d and then you become an All

852
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Pro for fourth grade years, you make the playoffs, you

853
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: win Defensive Player of the Year. Why why? What was

854
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: some of the reasons you feel you weren't able to

855
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: get over the hut with coach Dudget. I thought coach

856
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: was a little too nice. And the thing about Indianapolis.

857
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: He gave him Peyton Manning, so Peyton Manning would drive

858
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: the offense, and then he could come over and do

859
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: what he did to us, turn us into a fine

860
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: tune defense that understands the nuances in the situational football,

861
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: in the timeout and all the little you know, all

862
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: the little things, that little pebble in your shoot that

863
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: will drive you crazy in the football game. He could

864
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: teach that to the net, but he really didn't demand

865
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: what he demanded from this defense. From our offense. He

866
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: asked trying to just three yards and punk the ball

867
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 1: and don't turn it over. That that isn't what we needed.

868
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: We needed. We needed, We needed some drive. We need

869
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: you needed somebody to hold him accountable. Hold on coach too.

870
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Dog Tony used to walk in the room and tell

871
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: Man Nearly, I expect nine sacks this week, and I'm

872
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: walking down to your man. There have the head now,

873
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what's up, coach Man? I looked at

874
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: the take Babe, I'm coming here. I'm gonna try how

875
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: to get DIBs eating all this case this week. You

876
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: know what I'm I got some people about to take

877
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: to the ouse. Coach O specs nine sides. I'm like, nah,

878
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: I said, wait, wait, if I get three, what the

879
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: hell the other sticks coming from this? Before? Sid me?

880
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that I'll send you there ship.

881
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: What a hell? Then other six come come on, man,

882
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: he say nine. Then he had one. He said nine, sap,

883
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: you're in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The Brooklyn

884
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Lanches up, So

885
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: is run Day. What was it like playing with those guys?

886
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: A pleasure, a privilege and an absolute pleasure. I mean,

887
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, just dog, the work that they put in

888
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: Run Day. You know me and Run Day haven't looked in.

889
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: He'd be ready to jump the route in the first

890
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: half the first quarter. I said, run Day, not What

891
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: if you jump this route and they double me there's

892
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: nobody over the top, And he'd look at me, go, yeah,

893
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: you're right. I said, Dog, you can't have it right now. Baby,

894
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: you got you gotta give me time enough to figure

895
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: out where slide is going and I'll let you know

896
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: when I can let you go. I he was like,

897
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: he was like that that little banch. You get to

898
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: hold him back, because boy, he was gonna go jump

899
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: and bite that ball and go get his hands on it.

900
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: Boy and Lynch. Lynch would not accept not hitting a

901
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: man in his face, you know, like we you know,

902
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: put your face masks on it right, none of this,

903
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: none of this. Go low, hits you in the knee,

904
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: get you right square in your mouth and let Lynch

905
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: would have been out the league. Dad took all mental money.

906
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: You can bandit. That's why. That's why when you a

907
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: dinosaur like that, can they put him in the museum

908
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: with us? You know all of it. We can't play

909
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: out there like we used to play the ball man as.

910
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: You can't slap. You don't do that old hat slaps

911
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: you used to do at the top of your route

912
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: and push out. You can't do that no more. They're

913
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: throwing flats. Nineteen ninety nine, you do the defensive Player

914
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: of the Year, But I believe you think you had

915
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: a better year a couple of years later. Was that

916
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: your best that was your best seat? Do you believe

917
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: your defensive Player of the year was your best defensive season? No?

918
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: Two thousand, US two thousand. My my wife is pregnant

919
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: with my son, and I had winning that thing. In

920
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: the off season. Shan and I had worked. I mean,

921
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: I was having me a boy. I'm gonna name any

922
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: more and st after second baby, I'm gonna calling Deuce.

923
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: I had it all mapped out and I was over there.

924
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: I was at the house eating ice cream and south

925
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: cream and onion and pickles. You know, the pregnant lady year,

926
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: pregnant lady lake that after I'm figuring I didn't win,

927
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: worked out out the day long, I could do all this.

928
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm going back tomorrow. Dog. I stood on this scale

929
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: week when I was three hundred and twenty six pound.

930
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: I looked around. I was like, damn, where's the fifth

931
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: the sixth grade that I ate? Maybe if somebody but

932
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: Tony Dungy didn't say a word to me that Friday,

933
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, he could have come back here and

934
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: get on this week thing. Man, I'm gonna didn't say

935
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: a word. I left up. I let that Friday came back. Saturday,

936
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: we flied up Foxborough, flying up that time, flew up

937
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: that head, say a word. Sunday morning we got the

938
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: one o'clock a gain. He ain't say the water dog,

939
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: I'll go out here and Belichick got Max Lane out

940
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: here with a big cut chick on his right hand.

941
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: I said, I was shoved that in your ear as

942
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: I go kill your quarterback there. I think I think

943
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: I missed Drew Blessed so six times that day, but

944
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: I got him like one and a half. So we

945
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: fly back to Tampa. We have a good time. We

946
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: wanted over. Sitting in the back of the you know,

947
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Monday Monday stretch, I look up. There's no Brad copepper beshithing,

948
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: so I'm back here by myself. They just drafted mc fall,

949
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: so I'm back here by myself. Sitting back here, I

950
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: ain't got nobody to talk to on Monday. After the

951
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: good wind, I look around him. Here he comes. I said,

952
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're gonna have some conversation on Monday.

953
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: After wind. He walked up to me. He walked up

954
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: to me and said three twenty six hundred. I said, coach,

955
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: you watch me coming here every day. It worked my

956
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: butt off. I was not going back in nineteen ninety

957
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: eight when I wasn't effective. You know what I'm saying,

958
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: I said, but wouldn't come off. Coach, I don't know

959
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: what it did. He said. He said, if you play

960
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: like you played Sunday, we don't need to talk about

961
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: your week. Dog about eight, I had ten half sat though,

962
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: and that was you know, that was the year Ray

963
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: one defensive Player of the year. We went back to back. Yeah,

964
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: back to back to back to back. I think he

965
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: won another one. Yeah, we went back and back nine

966
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: to nine, two thousand, back to back. Yeah, and then

967
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: that's a year he went it came to my stadium

968
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: and won him a championship with my old quarterback. Yeah,

969
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: that was a very memorable year for me. Yeah. You

970
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: also did something that very very few defensive tackles get

971
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do. You caught a couple of touchdown passes. Now,

972
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: I remember the one against Atlanta, and you think you

973
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: should have seen the dance and practice. Dog. That was

974
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: a real g version of what I was doing in practice.

975
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: You just know this. You know I was cutting up

976
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: in practice. So when they when they called, okay, you

977
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: running in practice, I mean, you know, you practice a

978
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: lot of things, but sometimes after they practice and you

979
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: don't call him in the game, And I'm like, hold on,

980
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: why did y'all call that in the game. They worked

981
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: in practice calling in the game. So John Groom says

982
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: to me on Wednesday, I'm gonna grow the legend. I said, what,

983
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw you the football this week. So we

984
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: practice it Wednesday Thursday. By the time Friday roll around,

985
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: Brooks and them ain't even playing defense when I go

986
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: on offense. They just prevented me from doing this dance though.

987
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: That's how bad it's the guy that's how bad at

988
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: that guy. I mean, we practice it two three times

989
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: a day, you know, short yard, and they put me

990
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: in there and do it. Then go lie, we do it.

991
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: So I'm scoring this thing because you know, this little

992
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: this little young boy, he don't he don't really know

993
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm faking. I'm an old tight end.

994
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: You know. I'm faking like I'm blocking him good, you know,

995
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: give him a good punch he pushed back. I throw

996
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: him on the ground. You know, I'm going up with

997
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: this bad They don't know no about the old tightens day.

998
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: So I just score full times. So Friday roll around,

999
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: no way. I told John, I said, don't even call

1000
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: it the day. He's like, I gotta practice my play.

1001
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, they're not gonna let me score Man

1002
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: Brooks and lint over the garden. I'm like, dog, y'all

1003
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: not playing the defense that we played around here, just

1004
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: so I can't store. You ain't doing that dance no more.

1005
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: So that's what started it. That's what started you won't

1006
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: do that dance in the Landa. The whole flight, the

1007
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: whole Saturday flight. You know, they ever fifty six minutes

1008
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: from Campa Atlanta, the whole flight. Is she gonna do today?

1009
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: He is she gonna do today? I'm like, God, I'm like, John,

1010
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: do not call his play. He's like, I want to

1011
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: see the dance. Oh it was. It was across the

1012
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: board that he's gonna call it, and I gotta do

1013
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: the dance. So it was already set. So Jesus go

1014
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: back a little bit. They relieve coach Dunge of his duty.

1015
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna bring a new coach in. Did you have

1016
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: a conversation with coach Dungeon after they let him go. No,

1017
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Tony Dungeon before they let

1018
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: him go. That was That was a scary part because

1019
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: we were leaving Philadelphia after getting beat thirty one ten

1020
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: or thirty one nine, I think that was the two scores.

1021
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: It was going to get back to back game years

1022
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: and he was the last one to get on the bus.

1023
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: And that's never Tony always ahead of us. Then Tony

1024
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: is there, Brooks is beside him, and I'm behind him.

1025
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: I get on the bus and he ain't there, and

1026
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: I look at Brooks. Brooks like, I don't know, so

1027
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: I sit down. So we get a little worried. You

1028
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: know that they finified him in Philly at the bed

1029
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: after the game. Long story short, he gets on the

1030
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: bus and he says, us, we're safe. We're good. I

1031
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: just talked to the owners. We're good. Nothing's gonna happen. Man,

1032
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: we get back in. I think there was that Monday

1033
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: they fired him. Tuesday, I I I went to I

1034
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: went to seet Richard McKay. I say, dog, you gotta

1035
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: get me out of here. I said, because this ain't

1036
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: this ain't no no no bat dog, bat down, bat dot,

1037
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: come down, come down, come down. We're gonna get a coach.

1038
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: We gonna get we gonna, I said. I said, one

1039
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: other time I came in your office and I actually

1040
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: getting me out of here. And that was gonna Sam

1041
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: White after my rookie year told me he'll be a

1042
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: better situation. So I'm gonna see who you hire and

1043
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Before I asked you to trade

1044
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: me the kids so fat because that I mean, you man,

1045
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: they had. Then they cut our chest out, They cut

1046
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: the heart out of our chest. I mean that man,

1047
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: that man had taught us how to be prosed, how

1048
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: to be dass, how to be fathers, how to be men,

1049
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: and he didn't deserve that. They bring in John Gruden.

1050
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: They have to give a kings Rastom two first rounds

1051
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: eight million dollars, which I never heard of somebody trading

1052
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: for a coach. But that's not the you know, and

1053
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: you know he asked for me too, Oh did it? Yeah?

1054
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: And then the Glaciers said, we'll give you the money,

1055
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: the draft picks everything, but Warn, we'll give you everything

1056
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: you asked for a butt. Warn. What a concept. Dog.

1057
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: That's why I love a Glacier. February to the day

1058
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: I died that dog. I was the first pick and

1059
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: they would trade me with L David's born. To the kids,

1060
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: Rastom Dog, it was like, we trades you everything, but

1061
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: I Jack. You finally get an opportunity because you know

1062
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: how you're gonna be defined if you want to be

1063
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: one of these premier tackles and to go down in

1064
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: history and be legendary. You got to win the chill.

1065
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: You got to win the chill. So you make it.

1066
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: You go on the road, you beat feeling and feeling

1067
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: for the championship game. Ronde Barber jumped that stick route,

1068
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: which y'all call a yogi. He went to that, he

1069
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: housed it. You get to the Super Bowl. What is

1070
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: your thought process going into the game. Did you think, man,

1071
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: we gotta work cut out for us. Are you like

1072
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat the brakes up there? We were just

1073
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna go one play at a time, because that was

1074
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: always our model. One player at a time, never know

1075
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, coal ahead behind, no matter what the goal,

1076
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna play this thing for sixty minutes,

1077
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: and then were gonna look him and see what happened.

1078
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: It was just because we were the last team to

1079
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: go straight from a championship to a Super Bowl. There

1080
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: was no bodyweek right, You had no We had no

1081
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: time to fit. And then we were living off East

1082
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: Coast time on the West coast. So we woke up

1083
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning shading the folk. Thirty in the morning, suck

1084
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: our head out the door, me run day Brooks Lynch,

1085
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: Sean Cause, Simeon, Rice, uh D white Smith. We had

1086
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: a meeting at six o'clock in the morning. We went

1087
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: to go turn on the field because we were just

1088
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: sitting there twiddling our thumbs in the middle car. We

1089
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: were up. Dog. The white Smith looked at that table

1090
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: and sure, I'm gonna pick that pass off that sluggo

1091
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: scene when yeah, we're just standing there and throw it

1092
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 1: back on the Hige Twhite seating into the house. Dog.

1093
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: It was, it was set in stone. It wasn't one

1094
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: of those were gonna have an easy night. We just

1095
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: had to go put it in the work that we

1096
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: needed to put in, because you know how it is

1097
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: in a football game at that big mo get to

1098
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: swing on you at all health break loose you exactly right.

1099
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: So the old two bucks defense, we got the seventy

1100
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: six stealers, eighty five Bears, two thousand Ravens, thirteen Seahawks,

1101
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: fifteen Broncos. Ravens. You like that, you like that? I

1102
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: always hit that two thousand Ravens. D Dog, y'all want

1103
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: y'all y'all wants going touchdown, And that little fluke player

1104
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: and that little flue pass you called and took off

1105
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: a night of seven yards after wireless play every playoff history, Dogs,

1106
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell I mean? It's what that dog.

1107
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: I used to tell Ray, we invented buckball, but y'all

1108
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't affected that thing. Dog and get it with my

1109
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: old quarterback to dog, y'all even talk gift for how

1110
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: not to throw the pick six. Believe it. At that

1111
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: point in time, you know all we had to do

1112
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: is not turn the ball over. The likely would if

1113
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: you drive about seventy eighty yards against that defense. It

1114
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna happen. It wasn't gonna happen. Do you think

1115
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: somebody will ever break the Ravens scoring? They gave up

1116
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five points in sixteen games. Do

1117
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: you think something? You don't think that. No, they didn't

1118
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: build the Automa in the middle. I'm sure they're talking

1119
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady gonna leave forty to beat it. But

1120
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm a defensive tackle. You're crazy. We got a whole

1121
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: new little we enjoyed right now. Baby, this thing wide over,

1122
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: so let's let's get the over. Let's ride on. Things

1123
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: did not end the way you would have liked it too.

1124
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: In Tampa? Why did you leave Tampa? And then why

1125
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: did you go to the Raiders. They made a decision

1126
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: that after McFarling with be able to do my job.

1127
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know how to say there's a business decision.

1128
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean John Gruten told me when I got on

1129
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: the phone. When I you know, woke up that morning

1130
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: it was free agency. Marvin Lewis made an offer that

1131
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: Drew rosen House two minutes before free agency open. They

1132
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: had a Florida State workout somewhere. Marvin Lewis is on

1133
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: the phone. I'm like, well, go give me twenty million

1134
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: dollars for four years, and I'm retiring after that. Because

1135
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: I want to play. I wanna do four years and

1136
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm retiring. I had already mapped out my retirement. After

1137
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: I was leaving Tampa, John Gruten. I got on the phone.

1138
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: Gruten told me give me an hour. Paul Mike Brown

1139
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: said give him an hour for me to accept his offer.

1140
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: So I waited fifty six minutes. Carl rosen House back,

1141
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: I said, take Mike Brown's offer. I jumped in my car,

1142
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: went down to one Buck place. I cleaned out my luck.

1143
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: It was over in Tampa that fast. Are you disappointed

1144
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: they didn't make a better attempt to keep you. You

1145
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: are a cornerstone player, No, no, I had I'm like

1146
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: a bad cold when I didn't run my course, let

1147
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: me go. I ain't wasn't nothing. You know, we we

1148
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: had won a championship together. My name was gonna be

1149
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: on the wall. And you know my what, I didn't

1150
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: temple with sketch and they had them put a statue

1151
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: of me in the one butt place. I was happy.

1152
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: So it's a choice between the Bengals and the Raiders.

1153
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Al Davids got on the phone

1154
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: and saying, and I woke up. I mean I went

1155
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: down to Miami. I was at the Heat game and

1156
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: Frozen House called me six o'clock in the morning, said

1157
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: Al Davis is on the phone. He said, he's not

1158
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: hanging up in two years. Raider Mike Brown didn't have

1159
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: a chance. Mike Brown said, he would, you know, hitting

1160
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: against himself and all kind of the foolishness. That's why

1161
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals out of bagles Il rested soul. He always

1162
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: he would always ask, you'd be out there scratching and

1163
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: you see you run by. Specially with great players. You

1164
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: would always come and put you and put his hand

1165
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: on your shoulder. So you want to be Raider? Yeah? Yeah. Oh.

1166
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: He loved collecting love collecting. He did love collecting great players.

1167
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: So you you played, I think it wouldn't play two

1168
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: years or three years in Oakland four four you let

1169
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: it go. You says I'm done. And you were coming

1170
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: off a great season your last season. You played really

1171
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: really well well a year before that. I had ten

1172
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: sex too. But Dog, trust me, when you walk in

1173
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: the locker room and they're talking about how much money

1174
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: to got on the chief making and how much distion

1175
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: that and whatever, it wasn't it wasn't about winning. I

1176
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: want fifteen games in four years, and trust me, it

1177
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: was not about winning and over I want five po

1178
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: two and four games in four years. I didn't lose

1179
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: like that in Tampa, Dog, and I damn showed one

1180
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna fly thirty three hundred miles to go get beat

1181
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: like that. And it ain't no sunny place over there

1182
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, baby, And I was living in

1183
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: sad Frere other than the lazy Deman Topino on Tuesday afternoon.

1184
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: Over had to walk that out every Tuesday. Nothing else

1185
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: would keep me going back to San France. You were

1186
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: also and open when Randy Moss came, who talked to

1187
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: us about that situation and why didn't it work out

1188
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: with Randy and Open. They ran the hell out of

1189
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Randy Man. They made this man run so many goat

1190
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: routs in practice that it didn't make sense. And then

1191
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: Carry Collins got there and Carry didn't want to throw

1192
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: him the ball because he didn't believe that this was open.

1193
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: When Randy did this, he was open. I said, Carry,

1194
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: throw the ball. Well, he's not open. I'm like, what's

1195
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Either he gonna catch it, they gonna pass

1196
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: in the fence, or the balls gonna hit the ground.

1197
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: They're not picking it off. Throw him the ball. He

1198
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't throw it. He wouldn't throw it. He would not

1199
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: throw it. And then we went to Andrew Waters and oh, no, dog,

1200
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: you know I had eleven of them, seventeen quarterbacks they

1201
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: talking about, from rich Gannon up to Jamacus Russell or whatever.

1202
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Right I had it. Oh boy, back, go back. You

1203
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: were tired. Thirteen seasons, four hundred and thirty four solo tackles,

1204
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: ninety six and a half sacks, second high four defensive

1205
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: tackle behind Johnny ram Of nineteen fourths, fumble four in exceptions.

1206
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: You didn't want to get to a hunt. You didn't

1207
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: want to get to that that scene. No, what did

1208
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: you think I was doing that last year? I was

1209
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: looking right at it. I had I had ninety four,

1210
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: and I had I had ninety four, and then I

1211
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: get two and a half, ninety three something like that. Yeah,

1212
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: ninety four and then nine with ninety six and a half,

1213
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: I had ninety four shacks. I only needed six though, right,

1214
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: it was only two years of my career. I didn't

1215
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: have six sacks. Well three my my rookie year, my

1216
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: first year in Oakland, in the year I told my

1217
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: rotator cuff in Oakland, three years of my thirteen years,

1218
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: I hadn't had six shacks. I was like, I kicked

1219
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: this at midway. Oh, and then you're like, when when

1220
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: did you When did you know? It was over Monday night?

1221
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: All right, we're going to see al this week fifteen

1222
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: that night, random mouse dropping the ball on money that football,

1223
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean, dropped by four or five on them. You

1224
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Yeah, we's up there. We's

1225
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: up there playing Mike Hunger. You know, Mike Hunger loves

1226
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: to play that wide over style dog. I had my

1227
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: all white Jordan's own patent leather his Monday Night football.

1228
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: I know my mama watching dog. I'm finn to do

1229
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: with Michael Jackson. Dog my White pat level he heard this,

1230
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: that dog. I sat Seneca Wallace three times that night.

1231
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm dancing all over the field. I called my ins

1232
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: my birthday too. You know, be simple, baby. So I'm

1233
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: driving across the Bay Bridge that that. That Monday morning,

1234
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: I called my mama on speaker phone. I'm like, Mama,

1235
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: I know you saw your boy last night cutting up

1236
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: on Monday night football. My mama said, Boy, if I

1237
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: want to watch somebody get killed, I watch lawing Order.

1238
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: What my mama said, if I want to watch somebody

1239
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: get killed, I will watch the Law and Order. She

1240
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: was worried about you hurting Seneca Wallace. No, she was

1241
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: telling about Andrew Waters getting sat nine times my quarterback.

1242
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh the boy made they made My mama turned off

1243
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: the night football. Dog. My mama couldn't even enjoy me

1244
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: up that doing my thing because she was so worried

1245
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: about Andrew Waters. I called him Andrew the frame the

1246
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: toughest screw to ever do a turn and shot shot. Baby.

1247
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: They get they put that boy through some thing, but

1248
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: one time for do frame, Baby, put up the stick,

1249
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: the shot had us own the stick? Baby? You you

1250
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 1: were tired, and then you get the call the Hall

1251
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: of Fame. What were your emotions like when you got

1252
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: that call? Because you're going to football, Heaver? You know

1253
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: what it's like, Dog, You can't you can't control it.

1254
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: You can't stop you trying to figure out what to

1255
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: put on. Who the call? You know, the home boys

1256
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: yelling that shit. I mean, I don't know what you

1257
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: had because you know, I didn't have this knock on

1258
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: the door thing. You didn't have it either, You had

1259
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: knock no See, I didn't have no knock on the

1260
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: door either, So I mean I was. I was with

1261
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: my homeboys, you know what I'm saying. We had that

1262
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: went to two sisters and had a crawfish broad down

1263
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. You know, I had to take my

1264
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: mind off this thing, dog, because somebody was gonna get

1265
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: told some very choice words if they were gonna tell

1266
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: me that. You know what I'm saying, that that that

1267
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: that guy that you got away the year What for what? For? Who?

1268
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: You know? My first game in the NFL was the

1269
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: who for What? Game? By Ricky Waters? Baby said, you

1270
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: know me, I was there to ask a for Whogle

1271
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: for w but no, I was just so happy and

1272
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: felt so blessed to be put in that position. Dog

1273
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: because you know, I've seen Chris Carr. You know I

1274
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: I hear Chris Carter. Chris Carter was in year six,

1275
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: Dwayne Robinson was in year thirty, Curry Carr was in

1276
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: year twenty seven. You know what I'm saying. So we

1277
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: have a whole band. We got three first ballots and

1278
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: then we got twenty seven thirty years Bill Parcels, you

1279
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: know Chris Carter, you know, a whole mixing in my class.

1280
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: So I got a true appreciation when you get to

1281
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: the hall of what it is to be in that

1282
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: VP brough Well, you know, Sathing you you know a

1283
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: you know you couldn't be without incident. You know you

1284
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: you kept some ish going, skipping through, skipping through the

1285
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: basket going. Tony Tony Dungee was there with me for

1286
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: eight years when I was in Tampa, and I ran

1287
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: out that locker room the same way every time. Tony

1288
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: knew I was coming out there, and Tony laid him

1289
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: out that when I went bouncing through that I looked

1290
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: at him and he smiled at me, and I nodded

1291
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: and he died it. I was this was nothing about

1292
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: intimidating anybody. It was just my route to work. Dog.

1293
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: The fastest point between any two the passagition between any

1294
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: two points a straight line. I used to go from

1295
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: this corner to that camp. And I'm not stopping for nobody.

1296
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bump into sap. You know how that

1297
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: faith folded to work? What you know? And let me

1298
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: ask your question. What if somebody came skipping through tampas

1299
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: am I at home or in my way? You have

1300
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: you have, it doesn't matter they come get me through

1301
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: you brook list. They just come gip it in the back.

1302
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm alway at the end zone and I'm alway in

1303
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: the back. I mean somebody else got a hell of that.

1304
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: But don't worry about it. We've been had sixty minutes

1305
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 1: to worry about this. Don't worry about it. We finn

1306
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: get up close and personal. Don't worry. Don't worry about

1307
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 1: all that. Bruahad you know what, it's so much brew

1308
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: haha brought in the foolishness and LaVar Arrington played into

1309
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: it and Chris Collins were bigged up. It was nothing,

1310
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: man I'm not FINNI fighting no football game. I'm finn

1311
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: to go assault your quarterback. You have an incident with

1312
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Oh you get a pick and

1313
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: you do the crackback or Chad Cliff tell the people

1314
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: at home and they don't know. Give him the backdrop

1315
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: of the story. It was transpired. Listen. It was an

1316
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: interception and he was being lazy because when when when

1317
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: Brian picked it off, first thing I do is look

1318
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: at the quarterback, because that's the guy you want. I mean,

1319
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: I look at Brett and bread take off running. He laughed.

1320
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm like some of her and I look and I'm

1321
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: on the outside and the rest of them and all

1322
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: they took off to the side line. So I look,

1323
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: and Clifton was being a little lazy. I'm like, so

1324
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: I take off running and go get it, and my

1325
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: Spidey ships go off something saying he's in range. So

1326
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: I so I, so I peek out. So I turned

1327
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: and here the food. You know, because you know the

1328
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: rule that the old alignment ain't in the screen, they

1329
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: get fined like fifteen hundred dollars. They gotta be in

1330
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: the screen on the interception at the time. So I

1331
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: know this because the other old lignment have told us.

1332
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: So I peek out the call in my eye and

1333
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: he right there. So I'm an F sixteen fighter pilot.

1334
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: I got toned. I give him a nice little He

1335
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: goes and takes off, and it's unfortunately that he hit

1336
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,959
Speaker 1: the ground that hard and he tore us hip pump.

1337
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: Than that, other than that, other than that, damn him.

1338
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: You know that man three first of all linemen. They

1339
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: used to flying in the air like that. Hey, hey,

1340
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: my fault. He used to keep your seat on the

1341
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: ground and keep your head on the swimble. He's got

1342
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: a responsibility to protect himself too, though he does dog.

1343
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: You can't do that, though, bo I got a couple

1344
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: of rules. You can't do that as you can't run

1345
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: through the stressed up you know. You know the reason

1346
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: why they pat you down. They used to take the

1347
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: turn people and rub them down. Icon Me and Brad

1348
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: Colepepper go to Indianapolis in nineteen ninety eight. He telled me, hey,

1349
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: I got some silicone. I'm like, what is that? He's like, yo.

1350
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: He put the towel over his heads and strain me back,

1351
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you talking about? So I go.

1352
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: We go out there. Jay Lewisburgh put his hand on

1353
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: Brad the first play. The next play he shoot his

1354
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: ball fifteen yards sideways. We recover this thag on like

1355
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: the fifteen yard lot of driving in for a touchdown.

1356
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: We win the game thirty one to twenty eight dollar. Dog.

1357
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: They come looking for Brad, looking for me, I mean, dog,

1358
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: that we the reason why they checked people for silicone.

1359
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: That was that was an old trick back in the day.

1360
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't wanted the ball toot me the secret. But

1361
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of secrets that go that you and

1362
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: I both know. We did that. It wasn't supposed I

1363
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: don't was silical. I was not gonna put it on me. Dog.

1364
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: I was not putting a foreign substance on me to

1365
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: go play this game. Dog, I wouldn't. If you can

1366
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: block me, you can block me. But I don't think

1367
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: you want to change over the life. Let me ask

1368
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,959
Speaker 1: your question, Sap. In today's game, it's a lot different

1369
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: than when you and I played. They got this thing

1370
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: called social media. How would you have handled it? And

1371
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: do you believe? Because I think, and I tell people

1372
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: all the time, I say, it's more difficult to play now,

1373
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: given the set of circumstances that these young athletes have

1374
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: to deal with, we didn't have any of that. Dog.

1375
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: They have their own personal little cheering section. But it

1376
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: also could turn pretty damn nasty too, because you know

1377
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: that Twitter is a cesspool. You just gotta be able

1378
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: to weed through it with your little boat oil and

1379
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: figure out where the clean water and a clean conversation,

1380
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: cause boy, it's a whole another animal. But it also

1381
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: gives them a chance to really do their branding thing.

1382
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: Though that really and we could have did something special

1383
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: with that, but none of us would have been married,

1384
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: though I don't think I think that. I think the

1385
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: biggest thing is is SAP is that it gives each

1386
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: individual player his opportunity to show a side of him

1387
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: that they don't normally wouldn't yeah you yeah, yeah, But

1388
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: I think they take it too far. Antonio Brown took

1389
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: it too far U from Pittsburgh and then Jiuju shoot

1390
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: it with Hey, how you got these people hyped up

1391
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 1: about the game and I don't know about it? What

1392
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: the hell did you put it? At? More up on

1393
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: the poet you got the times up and I'm over

1394
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: here thinking we got a duck this week because you

1395
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: over here tiktoking, what the hell you played? You used

1396
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: to be in the the NFC North and that division

1397
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers. You have some historic battles

1398
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: with bread, Farr. What made your battles with bread so legendary?

1399
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: It was just two country boys gotta get Todday friends

1400
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: and come out and play until the sun go down.

1401
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: You know how that is? You know you keeping score?

1402
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: It's seventy seventy seventy, we got the ball man. It's

1403
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: dark out here now, Dog, you got to give us

1404
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: one more shot. That's that's that's how it was, Dog.

1405
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: That's what it really reminds me of because the talking

1406
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: and the back and forth, Panther, it was about what

1407
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: was in the program. We were talking about what was

1408
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: in the program, how much I waited, all this other stuff,

1409
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: and I mean it just was just silly stuff. That

1410
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: is that is that what you love most about Bret?

1411
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: Because Brett was a talker. He's like, that was a

1412
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: good shot, sap he threw a touchdown. I got that

1413
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: with it is your turning. He kept it going, oh yeah,

1414
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: And whenever you got somebody like that, it's just for tat.

1415
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: It's almost like that school yard. Let's go, let's go

1416
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 1: for tat, buddy, I'm gonna be right here waiting on

1417
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: you when you come back in here. So it was

1418
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: just two country boys that just loved the game im

1419
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: mensely and just loved to compete though. And he was

1420
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: the best. He was the best, three time MVP and

1421
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: a world champion right in my own division. And I

1422
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: got him twice a year. I'm gonna get real acquainted

1423
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: with him. What the lineman reminds you Warren Sapp of

1424
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: Warren Sapp today and Rogers, I mean Aaron Donald, Aaron

1425
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: Donald and Donald it ain't even funny. But he does

1426
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: it in a different way. Yes, yeah, he does it

1427
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: so much more finesse. But bo, when he get to

1428
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: that quarterback boy, he matched it with it. When he

1429
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: get to that quarterback boy, oh boy, I mean he

1430
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: bang him fast. Stapp. Let me tell you the first

1431
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: time I saw him, the first time I saw Aaron Donald,

1432
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him and I'm like, I love Aaron Donald.

1433
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: But now he too little be Aaron Donald. Ain't no

1434
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: way that, no way he gonna play detail on that

1435
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 1: side of the size of the dogs that bite. So

1436
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him. I was like, nah, nah, he too,

1437
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: he too, he too, little man, I want to jo

1438
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: in the games man the wait. I think the thing

1439
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: is skipped our skipped snapped. The thing that he can

1440
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: do that you guys can do and the really good

1441
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: we can do. They can be in and they can

1442
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: turn the corner. See a lot of people they got

1443
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: to run that big old art. But but this dude

1444
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: can run that tight. He can get pass you and

1445
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: then and then being and he's right there on the

1446
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 1: quarterback definitely around that corner, like Tupac said, baby like

1447
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith used to drag knuckles when you talk dt

1448
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: that leave Barnville. That's that's an art to be able

1449
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: to play with that kind of leverage and too and

1450
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: you know this out more times than not, you're getting

1451
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: double the center gonna hit you and then he's gonna

1452
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: lean you for the guard and I got it on

1453
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: ping pong with you think and it ain't trip of

1454
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: the points for you either. So you get into the business,

1455
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about football. Now, what was it like

1456
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 1: transitioning and how difficult was it to make the transition,

1457
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: because you know, like when you're in the fraternity. To

1458
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: be really good, you would have to be really honest.

1459
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: Do they playing well? Do they good? So I can't

1460
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: just sit there and say he played well? Would he not?

1461
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: And you're gonna rub a lot of people the wrong

1462
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,480
Speaker 1: a lot of former players and former you know, teammateson

1463
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: Piers the wrong way. And you know what I always said, brothers, well,

1464
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: I try to fit in when I obviously stand out.

1465
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you what the tape said. I

1466
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: was one of them dudes who always looked at the tape.

1467
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: I want to watch the tape because I watched Michael

1468
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: Lover and I watched Marshall. I watched them build those relationships,

1469
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: the where they called guys every week and they had

1470
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: that conversation. I don't want to hear the lies, because

1471
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, the tape ain't gonna lie. I understand a

1472
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: gonna lie. After I watch your tape, I'm gonna put

1473
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: it out there. And I think I was one of

1474
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: those guys that was too honest for the youth. For

1475
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: the youth because I put a tape together one time

1476
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: for J. J. Watt and I showed him. I said,

1477
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: you don't want to put tape out like this dog,

1478
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: and I didn't get a reply back after that, so

1479
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: I left the lord. I said, I guess I just

1480
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: got to do my job and they accept it or

1481
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: they don't accept it. But I ain't got to be

1482
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: friends with well. See that that's how I am. I

1483
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: don't do a whole lot of calls. Now if in

1484
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 1: the off season you want to ask me about the

1485
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: critique or what's something that you need to do, but

1486
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna really call you during the season because

1487
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna lie. I don't know. I know

1488
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: what I'm listening, I know what I'm looking for. You

1489
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: make you make it seem like I've always been in

1490
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: the media. You forget I played now, you guys, don't

1491
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: lie what I'm looking at that, Scott, I know exactly

1492
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: what's going on. Dog, Come on, stop playing. What's been

1493
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: the most rewarding part or playing in the National Football

1494
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: League and what's been the most rewarding part of your

1495
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: post career. Most rewarding part is the ability to take

1496
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: care of my family and the people like yourself, your brother,

1497
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: and all the great people I met in the game.

1498
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: Because there's so many people around the game that you

1499
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: get to meet and the doors that it opened up

1500
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: for you. Saying for a little country boy that was

1501
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: raised on a dirt road that is named after you

1502
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just just the whole experience and

1503
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: my post. Just the freedom dog to be able to

1504
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 1: go where I want to go. Go, put my fishing

1505
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: pole in a rod, you know, go in a holder,

1506
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: sitting around, Go if I wanna go, shit, if I

1507
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: want to ship, that's three from dog. Because when you

1508
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,759
Speaker 1: pull like we was, you got handed down your jeans,

1509
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: you got handed down your car, everything you had with

1510
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: somebody else. So right now, I don't eat what I

1511
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: want to eat. I go where I want to go,

1512
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: and I get that how I want to get that baby,

1513
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: Nothing like that, sap. We gotta do a fishing trip.

1514
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: We want to take off. You know, we're gonna do

1515
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: the most fishing we can do the biggest. What you want,

1516
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: what you want lake? You want the lake, or you

1517
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: want to go out there with a mine here and

1518
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: the tune whatever. You make it even on yourself. No, no, no,

1519
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: I I make it even on you, because not everybody

1520
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: likes to get out when you can't see land. We'll

1521
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: see first of all. I already know you can't beat

1522
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 1: me fishing in like a pond or a river setting.

1523
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: That's not what you do. I'm gonna come to your backyard.

1524
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: I know you like to get out in the water. Stop.

1525
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you to the barren money punn. There's

1526
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: eight thousands. You ever call a bearren money? There's only

1527
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: two places you catch them in Australia or Saint Cloud, Orlando,

1528
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: where I'm from. I'm gonna take you there, and we're

1529
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: gonna go there. We're going for the biggest though, we're

1530
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 1: going most the most. It's like football, we want the most. Okay,

1531
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: well you've done the most catches, don't you you want

1532
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: the most touchdown, you the most yards? Say? Let's I

1533
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: didn't know this thing. It will be posted, I will

1534
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: will be live. I'm I'm I'm gonna streaming. We're gonna

1535
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: be gonna find a place for the people to stream.

1536
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: We got Instagram. As long as we got no music

1537
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: playing that somebody's gonna report. It'll go on. Okay, well,

1538
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: us do the thing. Bro. You know I appreciate you

1539
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: coming over with it. We talked all the time anyway,

1540
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: so I figured our boys will get you on the podcast,

1541
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: cause we talk every every we talk talk too much.

1542
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: Both of us talk too much. And I got this

1543
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: for you. We're gonna do this after super Bowl week

1544
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: because for sixty miles from Tampa to Orlando. Okay, we

1545
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: were getting done then yeah, and then we're gonna go.

1546
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna go out there and we're gonna catch.

1547
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna fish for a marling or two. And yeah,

1548
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: we got gonna go. We can do the big group

1549
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: of if you want to do the big group of No,

1550
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't want that because you can't keep it. Man.

1551
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't want that life. I don't want that out

1552
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: Oh so you so we all gonna catch fish then

1553
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: we can eat. Yeah. What ain't you a country one? Yeah? Yeah,

1554
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: but I ain't really I ain't really trying to clean.

1555
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: Somebody else gonna do all the cleaning, you know what?

1556
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,560
Speaker 1: This country club fishing what? Okay, I gonna fake it,

1557
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: you know. I ain't no scales, none of that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1558
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: none of that. I just do the eat. Baby, I

1559
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: told you you're coming on today. Man, Thank you anytime, brother,

1560
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: thank you for having holler bro all my life, runding

1561
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: All my life. Sa fights custrice one slice, one got

1562
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: the bron the dice swad all my life. I've been

1563
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: grinding all my life, all my life, and running all

1564
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,879
Speaker 1: my life. Sacrifice, hustle bay the price. Want a slice

1565
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: that the brawling dice to swap all my life? I've

1566
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: been running all my life,