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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast loves Justin Herbert's Balls. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition, my goodness, of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ans. Come to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rostall.

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Speaker 1: What's up, boys? Hey, Dan, Hey, Mondays with West, a

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Speaker 1: holiday Monday with West party time, everybody in the pool. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I figured yeah, with Labor Day. Um, I would assume

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Speaker 1: a lot of competing podcasts. They're in pools right now

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Speaker 1: and at local parks playing frisbee. Uh not this podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are grinding, Sessler, and that's how will always be. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, and for those of us who are

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, which is all of us, I've lived

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Speaker 1: here for fifteen years and do not remember a stretch

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Speaker 1: of days nearly this hot. I mean it's it's like

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Speaker 1: crushing heat and I am like, like the television in

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Speaker 1: my room is sweating. I mean, it's unpleasant creation All right,

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Speaker 1: hanging there, Mark, this is a there's a reason to

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Speaker 1: be excited because football begins this week, and like we

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Speaker 1: teased at the end of the Friday show, we have

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Speaker 1: so much coming up, both individually and as a group.

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Speaker 1: As a group, we got something very fun for the

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Speaker 1: first time ever. On Wednesday, we will be holding a

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Speaker 1: live Q and A and t NF preview on YouTube

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Speaker 1: on the official NFL handle of YouTube, check out our

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Speaker 1: Instagram handle at the A T n podcast, and on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at around the NFL for linkage. But that is

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Speaker 1: coming up on Wednesday, in addition to of course today's show,

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Speaker 1: which includes our iconic go Get My Lunch season predictions segment,

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Speaker 1: and then coming up on Thursday, we preview every single

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Speaker 1: game to come in Week one. West you listen, it's

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Speaker 1: been a fight for us. You have so much going

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Speaker 1: on in your life, But how about football back. That's

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Speaker 1: a nice thing, even in a heat wave. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: like football in September, October, not so much in May

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Speaker 1: and June. But yeah, the calendar sets, it's time for football.

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Speaker 1: So all of the hype that we've gone through the

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Speaker 1: past few months out the window and now we just

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Speaker 1: it was kind of nice. On some it wasn't nice

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Speaker 1: little less hype feels like, Okay, just this season's here.

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Speaker 1: That's good. So much attention we're about to take me

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Speaker 1: out for that comment that we can't have a whole

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Speaker 1: calendar that's been you're doub actually see someone at the

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Speaker 1: door right now. All right, go go get my lunch

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Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later. But first we got

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Speaker 1: to get caught up on all of the news, and

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Speaker 1: there's lots of it. Let's do it, Ricky, I'll turn

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Speaker 1: down in ten good protection here. That will god a day.

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Speaker 1: Want to start for blow touchdown? Yes, you want to

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Speaker 1: start for Blow touchdown? Detroit? M it's cut down. It

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Speaker 1: was cut down weekend in the NFL, and uh, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it to you right now. Obviously a

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Speaker 1: somber moment here. David Blow does not make the team

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. A setback for blow Hard Nation, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Well it is a setback. But I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: we all go through chapters in our life that represent

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Speaker 1: wins and losses, and I just think that the Blowhards, um,

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Speaker 1: people personally. It is a resilient group and David Blow

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Speaker 1: end It is the beginning of of of the rest

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Speaker 1: of David Blow's life. And if you think the newsletters

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Speaker 1: are gonna stop, no, we're on issue sixty one. It's

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Speaker 1: a thirty seven page hand typed letter that I worked

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Speaker 1: and that's still there. And so these newsletters are getting

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Speaker 1: to the blow hards and we you know what, Just

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Speaker 1: like Adrian Peterson lashed on somewhere else, I think the

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Speaker 1: same is gonna happen in David Blow. When the bullets

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Speaker 1: start flying and quarterbacks start going down, it's just the beginning. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's a lead for your next newsletter. He's on the

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Speaker 1: already done that and got in trouble for it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's be careful with the federal government. Mark. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: not the beginning of the end for David Blow. It's

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Speaker 1: of the Jeff Davian Clowney era in Nashville. The defensive

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Speaker 1: have that all offseason. Clowny to the Titans. There's a

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Speaker 1: insider perspective, is that the Saints wanted Clowney badly, but

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Speaker 1: If you think that he makes the Titans better, I agree,

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425
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Speaker 1: underrated player on the Pittsburgh Steelers difference defense, Cam Hayward,

426
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Speaker 1: he gets a four year seventy one This is all

427
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: in the same ballpark. Interesting four year seventy one point

428
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: four million dollar extension through four west the tape dog,

429
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Speaker 1: Cam Hayward. What makes him so special and why does

430
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Speaker 1: he help the Steelers the way he does well? He's

431
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: a good all around and in a three four I

432
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: mean he plays the run, occupies blockers, and gets after

433
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Speaker 1: the passer. And when you do All Pro list every

434
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: year you pencil and Aaron Donald first, and then after

435
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: that there's a group of guys and Cam Hayward is

436
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 1: always in that group every year for the past three

437
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: or four years. He's in the next group down as

438
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Speaker 1: a guy who's an obvious pro bowler and might just

439
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: be an All Pro as well. Keenan Allen was a

440
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Speaker 1: big contract for him. He's only and he ate still

441
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: somehow he's been so productive you think of him were

442
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: getting hurt a lot, but he's played six in games

443
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: three straight years and that was a big offseason, big camp.

444
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: I think for Talasco so much for the pandemic. Like

445
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, chowderheads like me are like, well, in this

446
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: pandemic and the salary caps going down, next year not

447
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of big business. You know, you're

448
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: not gonna be able, You're not gonna see these contracts

449
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: they're gonna roll over the next year. It's like, no,

450
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: there's tons of huge contracts. They're not worried about next year.

451
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: They're getting they're getting people signed, and the charges especially

452
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: getting posted and Keenan Allen signed avoided some some problems

453
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Speaker 1: for next year. If Devil's Advocate, what if all these

454
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Speaker 1: teams are making massive mistakes are going to be right?

455
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Speaker 1: Point is wait, let me finish my point. My point

456
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Speaker 1: being that it gets set at one seventy five and

457
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Speaker 1: then you the market gets flooded next year with all

458
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Speaker 1: these veterans that no one would expect it to be

459
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Speaker 1: on the free agent market. Actually sounds kind of fun.

460
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: Maybe not for them, well that's interesting, but I mean

461
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: for me. You know, there's a lot of bills fans

462
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: saying well, this is what we couldn't do with Stefan

463
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: kill More we have he got away from us and

464
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: that and it shows that with White, that that this

465
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: is a whole different type of deal. And it is

466
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to see good teams. That was

467
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's first draft pick. And it isn't just confirmation

468
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: bias the same way you know with Mitchell Trobiski and

469
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: other guys that you know don't deserve all the third

470
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Speaker 1: and fourth chance. I like the signing here because to me,

471
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: it just shows that this this organization is as stable

472
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Speaker 1: as it's been since the nineties. And and you're gonna

473
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: develop and keep talent, and bad teams don't. Bad teams

474
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: draft poorly and then when they hit on someone they

475
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: can't keep them around. In other news, the Detroit Lions

476
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: have added yet another running back to their stable. It's

477
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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. He made a herd of that guy, No,

478
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Speaker 1: not the defensive back that used to be on the

479
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: Bears that he was running there from Georgia. Southern messed

480
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: up a lot of drafts that brutal time. In fact,

481
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: the most we just like, uh lack of respect for friends.

482
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: My cousin Eric once told me that he accidentally took

483
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: the wrong Adrian Peterson first over all years ago, and

484
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: they didn't let him change it trying to. It's like

485
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Speaker 1: someone who took the Lamar Jackson defensive back on the Jets.

486
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: I feel bad for that Lamar Jackson because everyone like

487
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: makes a joke every time he loses his job. It's like, okay,

488
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: calm down, there was a Cam Newton who was a guard.

489
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, what happens all right? Adrian Peterson signed a

490
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Speaker 1: one year, one million dollar contract with the Lions. Reunites

491
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Speaker 1: Peterson with Darryl Bevel, the offensive coordinator. They both together

492
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota. A lot of guys, uh in that backfield.

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Speaker 1: You have, uh carry on Johnson to start a last

494
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Speaker 1: year rookie DeAndre Swift, both Scarborough, and now you have

495
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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. I only thought on this one, Greg, is

496
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: the bars very low for Peterson. You could even say

497
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: he might just be ahold of fourth guy until these

498
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: other guys got healthy. But we'll see. Maybe he surprises

499
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: us and gets more playing time in Detroit. Well, to

500
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: to West's credit, who's never stopped flying that Peterson flag.

501
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Peterson ran really well last year. I mean he's not

502
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: a third down guy, but he was a I think

503
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 1: at least an average, probably better than average, just starting

504
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: running back in terms of his pure running. And you're right,

505
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Speaker 1: Scarborough is going to injured reserve for three or four

506
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: weeks and DeAndre sit Swift is banged up, so that's

507
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: probably part of it. But it won't be surprising to

508
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: me if like we get to December and Adrian Peterson

509
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: is taking big carries and meaningful games for Mark Sessler's

510
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Well, I mean, if you're Carrie On Johnson,

511
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Speaker 1: if you're carry On Johnson like number one last year

512
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Speaker 1: when he was the dude, like Matt Patricia and no

513
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: one inside the organization talked about Carrie and Johnson as

514
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: the the answer or never healthy you don't like yeah,

515
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: but they also then you go out and draft like

516
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift and I think that they're just camp did

517
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Speaker 1: not go right for them. They wanted Swift to be

518
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: the dude, and he's he's Mike g said. Mike Garret

519
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: Folo said that, you know, the knee issue that he

520
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: has right now gives sets Adrian Peterson up for a

521
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: really big week one workload, So you know, it'll be

522
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens there. Darryl Bello trust him away.

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00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: Was interesting that the Chiefs wanted to reunite Peterson with

524
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy, but they didn't think with the Thursday

525
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 1: night game there was enough time there to get him

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Speaker 1: on the roster and get him ready to play by

527
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Speaker 1: Thursday night. M uh. In other news, Adrian Peterson's former team,

528
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: the Washington Football Team. Guess what Alex Smith is on

529
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: the roster? How about that the veteran quarterback coming off

530
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Speaker 1: seventeen legs surgeries. We'll open the season as a part

531
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Speaker 1: of the quarterback's room in Washington. It is actually you'll

532
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 1: see this with the final cutdowns that happened all through

533
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: the weekend, more teams are keeping three quarterbacks because of

534
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: pandemic fears. Alex Smith beyond that, had a ton of

535
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: guaranteed money coming his way. But he'll be in there.

536
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: Ale Allen is the backup behind Dwayne Haskins, who was

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Speaker 1: officially announced as the starter as expected. Uh so, just

538
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a great story West. Alex Smith will

539
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: be uh on a roster to start the season. Whether

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00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: he plays or not, we'll see. I thought we see

541
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Speaker 1: every September guys who make the final roster and then

542
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: immediately get caught um or resigned after week one. And

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00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: I always think at the time, you know, we make

544
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: too big of a deal about the final roster. But

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00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a ritual to it in football circles.

546
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: And for Alex Smith what he's been through, credit alone

547
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: just for making this roster. I mean, I don't even

548
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: care what he goes on to do the rest of

549
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: the year. Just the ritual nature of making surviving cuts

550
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: in football, that's a big thing. And and he did it.

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00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Um My hats off to him. I know, when you're

552
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: going through something awful like this, um, working hard and

553
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: keeping your mind active keeps you young and keeps your

554
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: mind off of other things. And I think that's a

555
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: lot of what drives him. I mean, and think of

556
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: the value he brings. Just you know, you're telling me

557
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: that they're not like a better quarterback room with him there.

558
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, having him there is gonna make should make

559
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen, Dwayne hasking, but it should make a lot

560
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: of people better. I mean, just to to have that

561
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: sort of example. And who knows, it would be fun

562
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: if he I guess if he plays. If it gets

563
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: that point, I mean, you're a little anxious about it

564
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: or I am. But but if not, what was said

565
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: is absolutely true. It's an amazing way. If this is

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Speaker 1: how his career ends, it's kind of an amazing way

567
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: that he did it on his own terms. And on

568
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: the subject of veteran quarterbacks that can help teams in

569
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: different ways, the Eagles signed Josh McCown to their practice squad,

570
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: the oldest practice squad player in the history of the

571
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Speaker 1: NFL at forty one years old. Again, this would not

572
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Speaker 1: have happened if it weren't a pandemic year. They had to, uh.

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Speaker 1: They jumped up the practice squad this year from ten

574
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Speaker 1: to sixteen players, and McCaw and McCown will live in Texas,

575
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: join the team in virtual meetings, and then serve as

576
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: the emergency quarterback if something bad happens. How about that

577
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Mark a platy something bros out there have a reason

578
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: to celebrate. I love it and I still I still

579
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: believe strongly that he will start a game this year

580
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: and have to be you know, shipped in from Texas.

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00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: That would be good. He's making twelve k a week,

582
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: so the new practice squad, you're making twelve thousand dollars

583
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: a week. He's just showing up to zoom. He's still

584
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: like coaching his kids in football. It's a pretty good

585
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: deal to be able to swing the little passive income there.

586
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: It's gotta be nice for all you old guys born

587
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: in the seventies to have another seventies guys still hanging around.

588
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: It's so nice. God. I remember when I first moved

589
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: back in l A and um, Josh McCown was coaching

590
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: high school football way back and now he's not even

591
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: retired yet. He hadn't even been your making the lead

592
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: candidate yet. What a weird career, uh. In other news,

593
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: speaking of weird career, Josh Rosen is on the street.

594
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: In two thousand and eighteen, he was the tenth overall

595
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: pick in the NFL Draft by the Arizona Cardinals. They

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00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: traded him after one year to the Miami Dolphins. And

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00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: this I kind of forgot about this part, Greg that

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00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins gave up a second round pick and a

599
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: fifth rounder to get Josh Rosen. They give him three starts,

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00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: he makes about a hundred past attempts, and then they

601
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: say we're done with him too. So at some point,

602
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, I know, everyone seems to be. Oh, you know,

603
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: woe is Josh And you know he he's never had

604
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: a chance. But I don't know, he probably could have flashed,

605
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: probably had an opportunity last year to keep himself in

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Speaker 1: the mix in Miami, and it even if it was

607
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: a small sample size, it was a chance. And now

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00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: he's on the street. Well, the Dolphins told you what

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00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: they think of him. I mean they have they think

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Speaker 1: he has no value they had. They think he has

611
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: no future potential to be to his backup, or there's

612
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: other reasons why they just feel more comfortable with him

613
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: not there anyways, obviously you want the roster spot. Um,

614
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: but he still was under contract for a couple more years.

615
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: As you said, they sunk that draft pick, and Dolphins

616
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: fans will come at yet. Well, they had moved down

617
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: in the second round before they did it. And you

618
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: know what, I don't think it was a bad trade.

619
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: I think it was worth taking a swing. I always

620
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: say that keep taking swings at quarterback until you get one,

621
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Speaker 1: and if you're gonna miss it doesn't matter, it's worth it.

622
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna miss plenty of these draft picks that

623
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: they made, and they apparently missed on rosen Um. But

624
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty telling that they think he has

625
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: that little value that they don't even want to keep

626
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: him on their fifty three man roster. He supposedly had

627
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: some active offers, but he's joining the bucks um where

628
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Byron Leftwitch is who really stuck up for him after

629
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: their year in Arizona together. And so that to me

630
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: is it's not about Tom Brady, It's about the relationship

631
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: I think between Byron Leftwich the coordinator there, and Josh Rosen,

632
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: and Rosen really seen that situation as if I'm gonna

633
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: be saved, it's by this guy as a coach, and

634
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: obviously Bruce Arians too. I'm with Dan on this snobby

635
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: because you look at like someone like Steve Kim, who

636
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: was you know, Q rating, you know, not high for

637
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: Steve Kim back when he even took Josh Rose. He's

638
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Speaker 1: had some he had some issues off the field himself,

639
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Speaker 1: but he was convinced by you know QB guru Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury too eat the l on the Josh Rosen draft pick,

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Speaker 1: move him and then draft an entirely different quarterback. Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury didn't believe in Josh Rosen Steve Kim was willing

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Speaker 1: to go there. Now a second front office and coaching

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Speaker 1: staff feel the same way at some point, And it's

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Speaker 1: easy to feel bad for the circumstances been in, but

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Speaker 1: at some point Josh Rosen, a top ten pick at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, is going to have to prove to

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Speaker 1: someone that he has what it takes to survive in

649
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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's unprecedented. I mean, if he doesn't, it's

650
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Speaker 1: it's unprecedented. There have been no top ten quarterback, really

651
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Speaker 1: no first round quarterbacks with with this happened that happened

652
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: to them in their first years just is just never

653
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: ever happened. Speaking of weird stuff, West, how about this one.

654
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Speaker 1: The Dolphins acquire running act Lynn Bowden and a sixth

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Speaker 1: round pick from the Raiders in exchange for a fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick. Okay, so two things here. Number One, the

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Speaker 1: um Raiders get back a draft pick that they had

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Speaker 1: already sent to the team. And also, Lynn Bowden is

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Speaker 1: a rookie. He got traded before his rookie season a

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Speaker 1: third round pick. I mean that is pick eight. It's

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Speaker 1: like one of those weird compensatory where it's like one

662
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: oh two or something like. Now, it's like pick eight.

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Speaker 1: All we ever hear, all we ever hear if you

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Speaker 1: read read people leading up to a draft is oh,

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Speaker 1: everybody touched out the first round, but the second and

666
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Speaker 1: third round that's where true champions are built. Well, what

667
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: are you doing? And over there in Vegas, well, I mean,

668
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: so they had him at running back, but Miami is

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Speaker 1: gonna make him a wide receiver, which I think they

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Speaker 1: view to be, you know, where the more upside is.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the Athletic reported that bout in Uh

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Speaker 1: did not have a good camp and that they there

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Speaker 1: was this line from our friend Vic Tafer. I believe,

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Speaker 1: I still don't know how we're saying that name, but

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Speaker 1: Vic Tafer said that some inside the building thought he

676
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Speaker 1: was more concerned with picking up new cars than a playbook. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a loss for the Raiders. The Raiders like basically

678
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Speaker 1: were saying, we don't want certain types of players in

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Speaker 1: our building necessarily. And so you got value back to

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Speaker 1: some degree. Yeah, that was a project picked to begin with.

681
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Speaker 1: When you're taking a guy who played quarterback and you

682
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Speaker 1: assume you can just switch is enough talent where you

683
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Speaker 1: can just put him at running back a receiver? They

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Speaker 1: had him at running back, like Mark said, and Vic

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Speaker 1: Tafer wasn't the only one who said he had a

686
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Speaker 1: bad camp. Just about everyone who Well, yeah, the trade said, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean they done them. I also don't want to hear, well,

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00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: they got something back. Okay, you didn't get a pick back,

689
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: you got a pick swap. You got a day three

690
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: pick swap from round four to six. You didn't get

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Speaker 1: an extra player. You're moving up sixties spots on the

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Speaker 1: on the third day of the draft. Uh, you know,

693
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Speaker 1: when they've got you know, people in the interviewing fans

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Speaker 1: out in the middle of the street and not even

695
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: paying attention to the picks. I mean, honestly, and we went.

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Speaker 1: Everyone likes Mike Mayock and he was a nice guy

697
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: when he worked with us. But if the Browns did this,

698
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: if the Jets did this, it would have been laughing

699
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: stock type stuff. And it's it's just it's not a

700
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: great look. And yeah, maybe he's interested in cars this

701
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: summer in quarantine or whatever. I don't even know how

702
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: they would know so much about that, But like, you know,

703
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: you have an entire pre draft process to find out

704
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: if the guy is a knucklehead. Apparently that they didn't.

705
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: If that's indeed the case, they did a bad job

706
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: on that front. To Gruden, gives up on mistakes and

707
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: changes his mind emotionally very quickly. That happened all the

708
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: time in Tampa. And they signed two veterans this offseason

709
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: to Marius Randall and Mukamura, one of whom got big

710
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: money guaranteed salary. They both didn't even make the team.

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00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Patriots are like that too. They'll

712
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: give up on guys quickly when they decide this guy

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00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: is not for me. I make a statement, no reverse

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00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: gears in this tank. Dan wants to put Bill Belich

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00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: into Davian Clowney into a car that's just gonna careen

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00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: off a cliff. I mean, when you're done with people,

717
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: you are done with them. You know what an actor?

718
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: I mean? Did you remember that old p s A Mark?

719
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: I learned it from watching you. I think it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I learned it from watching you, dad, where the dad's like,

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00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: why did my son start smoking at sixteen? While he

722
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: has like his fifth cigarette in his mouth. Alright, two

723
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: quick transaction things before we get to the sandwich props.

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00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, Uh, there's a report out there that he's

725
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: been reinstated. He hasn't played since two thousand and eighteen,

726
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys now have them have him in the building.

727
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna play right away. There's an

728
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: acclamation period. Apparently he'll miss at least six games, and

729
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: the Giants are going to release cornerback DeAndre Baker there

730
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen first round pick. Overall. Of course, he's

731
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: caught up in a very uh ugly legal situation involving

732
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: a robbery with a firearm. If he's convicted, it's a

733
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: minimum mandatory minimum sentence of ten years. And when you

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Speaker 1: factor in his legal issues and the fact that he

735
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: was even caught up in this, the Giants are washing

736
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Speaker 1: their hands of Baker. That's what's happening in the news,

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00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: all right, it's time. Oh oh, ricky, oh, you know what.

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Speaker 1: The people the people that fake misopenia, misoponia, it is

739
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: not it is notts How is it fake? It's phony.

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00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: You don't experience it, so it doesn't exist to you.

741
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: You tell me what we're listening to right now is

742
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: not hideous? That is hideous to the ears. And just

743
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: throw a clinical name onto something and then it's it's fine,

744
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: Like if people are people are pathological, then that's that's

745
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: excusable behavior. But honestly, Mark miso phony. Uh, it's right

746
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: there on the tile. You don't have to buy it.

747
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: You could have come up with a better name. UM.

748
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: But I will say that, like one of my happiest

749
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: um aspects to you know, working remotely is that I

750
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: do not have to sit in that newsroom and I

751
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: can hear someone from four like rows of cubes away eating,

752
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: So I know I stopped. I stopped like bringing yogurts

753
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: to work after I realized it was getting on getting

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00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: on Mark Trader. It's ironic, though, Mark, that on on

755
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: Friday on our broadcast, UM, that you are the one

756
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: that had, you know, one of the most troubling coughs

757
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: into which I think we learned what you had eaten

758
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: for the last four time days and everyone on the

759
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: on the call and the on the show was listening to.

760
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: It was so bad that I like thought about it

761
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: for hours after and I sent a text apologize, and

762
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: then I'm thinking of all the people behind the scenes,

763
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: whose text like whose numbers I don't have, and how

764
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: much they I What I had done was just just

765
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm not some barbarian. I knew I had been the

766
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: cost that day. I hit the mute button, didn't muted,

767
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: but I had been muted, and un muted myself and

768
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: then let out this hideous, disgusting sounding let me call,

769
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: and then muted myself afterwards. What a disaster. I thought

770
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: about it all weekend. Why would you think about it

771
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: all weekend? Why don't think about the whole thing? Different

772
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: you talk about like in your right west it is

773
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: probably pathological to have musophonia, But I have like many

774
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: pathogens or whatever you wanna call it, other than others

775
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: do not. It's not a great thing. It's one of

776
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: the things. And you know, thinking about the cough all

777
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: weekend is not something that you would do. You'd be

778
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: over written about four minutes. You love to make this

779
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: gross sound effect in general. So I felt embarrassed. It

780
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: was not a good look. It was just like, it's like, how,

781
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry I brought it a month. We are

782
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: down a dark wormhole here, all right? So here we

783
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: go go get my lunch. It is a game we

784
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: love to play. We track it with the help of

785
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: the great Nick Fourtier, who for years now his run

786
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: his own website dedicated to this particular segment, Go get

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00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: my Lunch dot org, and it has everything every prop

788
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: proposition we've ever made on this show, Uh, in terms

789
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: of predictions, sandwich props, uh, and what does it? What

790
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: does it mean? The sandwich props? It's not something we

791
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: really pay out now we have an excuse not to

792
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: do because there's a global pandemic. But each of us

793
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: makes a prediction and then you can either choose to

794
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: agree with the prediction or say no, Go get my

795
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: lunch and sandwiches are on the line hypothetically. And I'll

796
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: just give you guys a couple of quick notes before

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00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: we get the predictions rolling all time standings again all

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Speaker 1: this Thank you, Nick fourtier, Greg first place, you've gotten

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00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: fifty two point five percent of your predictions slash reactions correct.

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00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: Dan behind at fifty two, West at fifty point eight,

801
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: Mark at forty eight. But in Mark's defense, he does

802
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: have the all time sandwich prop prediction with the uh,

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00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: Nick Foles play was it? What was it? Again? Well,

804
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot to pick from, but that

805
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: would be one of them. Got credit The Baker Mayfaker

806
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: Mayfield is gonna take over in week three in lead

807
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: a comeback or sometimes that that was insane. And in

808
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: Mark's defense also is like these records are now over

809
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: like six or seven years, so it's he had a

810
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: first bad three years, so it was three years behind

811
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: climb that Hill's right, you were kind of a you

812
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: were a franchise that is like taken down to the

813
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: studs and you were in a deep rebuild and now

814
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: you're on the way up and finally on those records.

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Speaker 1: At some point I'll get into that. I'm gonna get

816
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: into that website and see what's up with that coding

817
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: and makes some changes, screwub it. And finally, as we

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00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: always do before we make our official predictions, there are

819
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: a few of the pop up uh leading up to

820
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: this time of year, and Nick again tracks all this

821
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: stuff for so for instance, Mark, you um challenged us.

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00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 1: You said, Matthew Stafford is not on the Lions Week

823
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: one roster, Dan, Greg and west All took you on that,

824
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: so you are already down three sandwiches. Well about that

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00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: for a while, I like to go for it and

826
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: swing for the fences, and I pay for um. That's

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00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: that's one of your Lions about face this offseason, which

828
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: has been interesting. It was you were very hot on

829
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: that Stafford thing early and now you've come to the

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00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: other place where Stafford and the Lions are ready to

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00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: do something special. I also had Rob Gronkowski plays in

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00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: the Sandwiches on that, so I'll owe me one good

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00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: job good I'm off to three and oh start Now.

834
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give some back though, because I also said

835
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell is not on the Jets in West.

836
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: You didn't take me up on that, but Greg and

837
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: Mark did, so I'm three and two to start the season. Now.

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00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: I still think Leban Bell might not make it to

839
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: the end of but he's here to start the season,

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00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: so I take the l on that one. Uh, let's

841
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: get it going, Mark. Since you're always a wild card

842
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: in this game, why don't you start us off? I will,

843
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: And this is something that, um, I don't think I

844
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: ever would have one more thing, Ricky. You have time

845
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: to prep as his tradition, the producer gives us one

846
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: prop as well, so I'm ready a great all right,

847
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, Mark. I don't think I would have made

848
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: this prediction a month ago because it would have seemed,

849
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: um it was too shaky. But here it is no

850
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: games will be canceled in it's always something Well I

851
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: think that's it's it's we've never had a football season

852
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: where that seems more possible. Um, and you know, the

853
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: future is a total mystery. But I'm going with no

854
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: game is canceled. I know. But now now you've flipped

855
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: it from like you're rooting for something terrible to happen

856
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: to like making us have to root for something terrible

857
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: to happen if we take on this completely realistic beat,

858
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean a realistic prop that it's you could see

859
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: it going either way. But I don't want to root

860
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: for that, So I'm not taking that on. It's like

861
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: what I don't want to be pumping my humping my

862
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: fist when a bunch of people get COVID. I mean,

863
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to go from that angle. But okay,

864
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: we think, uh postponed versus canceled? Oh what were the

865
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: word was postponed? Or my feeling was the spirit of

866
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: it was that nothing would even be delayed so off

867
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: of an original. So so I'm not gonna like I'll

868
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I know that people go back and

869
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: listen to these recordings and type everything we say down,

870
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: But I I'm saying no delays, no cancelations. Well, even

871
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: if a game, even if a game was scheduled Sunday

872
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: and then they had a scare or somebody so they

873
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: pushed it to Tuesday at ford Field instead at a

874
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: neutral field, that would count to you as the season

875
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: being postponed on some level. Well, I don't like what

876
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: I've just done here, but uh no, I'm going with

877
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: clean slate across the board. So I could be a

878
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: hurricane too. We've seen that with some hurricane. Like, can

879
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: we make it Corona related? Not like alright, Corona related?

880
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Root for Corona the weather related, election related. There's so

881
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: many different ways to cancel sporting events these days. I'm

882
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not taking you up on it, Mark,

883
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: because i just want everything to be okay, and that's

884
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: what I'm going to root for. Well that's fine, that's

885
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: just that feels fine to me. West. I don't know,

886
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're not taking this because no

887
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: matter what I think, it has no bearing on the

888
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: outcome the market. Mark is a huge fan of, like,

889
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, climate change. She's just like you know, like

890
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: er such wonderful human beings. Not to engage in the

891
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: sandwich prop. I mean you know, okay, you know a yes,

892
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: I've always kind of of you as something of a shaman. Uh.

893
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: You put energy out into the universe, whether you realize

894
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: it or not. I'm not putting that energy out there.

895
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, it's like one rain dropping a million

896
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: the way you're talking about energy. Just what happened the

897
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: last six months and what I think about the football

898
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: season and a canceled game just means nothing. Rest. If

899
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: you win this, I'm gonna I'm gonna shotgun of sandwich

900
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: you over to your house by a Grubhub. Thank you.

901
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. The courage that it took to take me

902
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: up on that bed. I see it from over here

903
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: in this house. All right, Mark, you're up, I mean okay, um,

904
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: let's do a quick one to get us going, you know,

905
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: like a like a palette cleanser. Are insinuating that Mark

906
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: did not get us. I want to you know, I

907
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: tend to go on a little bit. I'm looking at this. Uh.

908
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: These bottom two boxes were taping this on video to

909
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: in addition to the pocket and it used to be

910
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: the kissing cousin corner Mark and West but now they're

911
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: more like the uh, the JH. Allen jabronies. That's what

912
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: that's what they are always defending Josh Allen. And so

913
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with Josh Allen one and say, Teddy

914
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: Bridgewater winds up with more yards this season, and you

915
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: can include rushing to give a little edge there to

916
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: Josh Um, then Teddy Bridgewater has more yards than Josh

917
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: Allen by the end of the season, air yards per

918
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: tempt or because it doesn't matter per a tempt, it

919
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: doesn't matter per AEMP rushing and passing. I'm gonna give

920
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: you a rushing I'm gonna let you count rushing where

921
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: obviously that that helps Allen out a little bit. Teddy

922
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: Bridgewater guy. You guys have mocked and derided on this

923
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: podcast um for for months. Really well, you know versus

924
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: your guy, I'm not I might not take you up.

925
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: And I guess I just don't want to put the

926
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: energy out into the skies, Like how how will Josh

927
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: You know, I'll take you up on it in a second. Yeah,

928
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: I'll take you up on it in a second too.

929
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 1: I like that, And I've got my own Josh Allen,

930
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: you're also involved. I just you are. You have been

931
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: made making a lot of jokes about Teddy too. I

932
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: guess they should have involved the year as well. I'm

933
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: in Josh Allen. Yeah, Josh Allen will have more passing

934
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: and rushing yards for sure. So I'll take you on it.

935
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: I like it. I like this one. You're going down

936
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: with that Teddy ship and yeah, I'm going to alright West.

937
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: Do you wanna do you wanna uh dovetail and give

938
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: us a little more Josh Allen fund I do. Indeed.

939
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: One of Greg's little corporate mandated assignments last year was

940
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: uh an article like an m v P index by December,

941
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: writing each week who's in the top ten in the

942
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: m v P race. Here's the problem. Greg's reviled Josh

943
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: Allen finishes higher then Greg's beloved Cam Newton and Tom

944
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: Brady in the final year in m v P index.

945
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: Huh wait, but what if? What if none of them

946
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: ever make it? Which feels like the most Well, then

947
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: lose because I'm counting on josh on being on there.

948
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: To be fair, I think it. You know, the one

949
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I did is only a top five, so that is

950
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: that is being one of the best players in the

951
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: league and maybe I could extend it to West uh

952
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: to ten just for uh twice the works for this

953
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: like that. Don't even put any comments, just thing that

954
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: would make it more fun. I'd have to go check.

955
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't even remember this thing, um, but I'll take

956
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: you up on it regardless because I do not I

957
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: have I clearly do not see him being involved in

958
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: the m v P discussion. If he's in the top

959
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: ten of the m v P discussion, I've got some

960
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: meg on my face, that's for sure. I don't know.

961
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: With with Greg and gambling, the you know it's already murky,

962
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: and now you're gonna add in him having control on

963
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: this of this on some level, like I don't know

964
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: if I want to be involved with this. I'm gonna

965
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: stay out of this one. I'm out, all right, Yeah

966
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: you know what? Like that's that's very sensible that that

967
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: Greg is not gonna want to lose that and so

968
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: he's if someone else is the author, maybe, but I'm

969
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: gonna hang away from this because this is how you're

970
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: not this is how you're in fourth place market. He's

971
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: given you a sandwichist for free. I'll all you need

972
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen to not be an m v peak

973
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: and hey, hey, let's make the top twenty like quarterbacks

974
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: or TBR first. So I think he's gonna be sensational.

975
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: So I also just don't believe it with my heart.

976
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I think he's I think West is right. Part of

977
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: part of the reason for this was for Greg's integrity

978
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: to be a topic on the show. I'll put him,

979
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: I'll put him in there. If he does all right,

980
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it. Good angle into we're

981
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: all because I was sometimes this game confused me. I

982
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: thought if Josh Allen was not a top ten m

983
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: VP candidate, I would lose, but that would mean I

984
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: would win as well. So like multiple things have to

985
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: go right for West to nail this right, right right,

986
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: I should have kept my mouth shut actually and giving

987
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: you guys easy sandwiches or Greg when when Matt Barkley

988
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: is starting in week fifteen, I'm just kidding, all right,

989
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm taking a different tax this year because what happens

990
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: with go get my lunch, the same thing happens every year.

991
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: It's so hard to get any of your predictions right,

992
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: and then the way you stay afloat is by cashing

993
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: in on other people's failed predictions. So like, I've now

994
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: reached a point where I'm no longer trying to like

995
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: figure out, oh this is gonna trap them, because this

996
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. It's impossible to know. So I'm just

997
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna do is pick the things that I want to

998
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: see happen, and maybe again all that mark, all that

999
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: positive energy just shooting out of the body. I love

1000
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: the strategy. It was my tastom hill touchdown one from

1001
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: a year ago. It was fun to root for something

1002
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: good to happen. So how about this, despite all evidence

1003
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: to the contrary over the last couple of years that

1004
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: he's still this guy? How about Aaron Rodgers is an

1005
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: all pro. I'll take you on that. I would. I

1006
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: would love to see it, and and we'll give you

1007
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: store second team. We'll give you a second team. I

1008
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: was gonna clarify that is a high honor just to

1009
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: be second team, so that that would count um and

1010
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: even a tie on for the second team, which sometimes

1011
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: I am really banking hard on the obviously nebulous Hall

1012
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: of Fame. You know, special player who has been you know,

1013
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: slighted by his team and has something in the tag

1014
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: and something to prove angle And I know I'm going

1015
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: to lose the sandwich prop because there's so many great

1016
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league union at the top. It's so

1017
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: it's it's so hard to become an All Pro, even

1018
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: if you have a great year. But why not? Why

1019
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: why not Rogers at a motivation level never he's never

1020
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: had at a crossroads in his career, he puts together

1021
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: something to like really put the Packers in a difficult

1022
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: spot where if he has a monster year this year

1023
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: and then they have Jordan's love on the second year

1024
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: of his rookie contract, which is golden today's gold currency

1025
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, that puts him in a really hard spot.

1026
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: I think Roger is gonna do it, and that's why

1027
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say effort, He's an All Pro. I love it.

1028
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: It would be a fun league to watch if Rogers

1029
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: get to that. My on emotional side is definitely taking

1030
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: you on. I will take you on it, but I

1031
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: like where you're going with it, and I see it

1032
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: as a possibility. I will say I'd love to see it,

1033
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: but I think Rogers has too much baggage at this point.

1034
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: I can't go through four months without ruining it in

1035
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: some way and hitting a slump. Yeah, well you're probably

1036
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: right about that, but we'll see. All right, let's go through.

1037
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna go three props each, so Mark get us

1038
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: going round two? All right, our friend Daniel Jeremiah, Um,

1039
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: we'll leave NFL Network not in disgrace, but with much

1040
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: praise after the season becoming the general manager of an

1041
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: NFL team and never responding to any of our text

1042
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: messages ever. Again. Wait so if if he gets the job,

1043
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: but he does keep responding to texts, well not just

1044
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: a little that's a little labor on the end, because

1045
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: not saying this is where because you have these great predictions,

1046
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: but you add these flavors and then when they don't happen,

1047
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: you don't count them. How about this he becomes a

1048
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: general manager and the spirit of him kind of like

1049
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: ditching us a little bit will be in will be

1050
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: present now, will you know? Will he send us a

1051
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: text message? Maybe? But like, are we still going to

1052
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: be pouning around with Daniel Jeremiah? He will largely ghost us.

1053
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: We need a date on this, how about but you

1054
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: know before we tape the Super Bowl? Uh, go get

1055
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: my lunch props because you know, this is getting this

1056
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: is getting murky that you're going so deep into January

1057
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: to be really late, that would be like after Super Bowl.

1058
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: So I'm fine with it being Super Bowl Super the

1059
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: end of Super Bowl. Uh you know even the prediction yea,

1060
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: even the week before the props should pay off before

1061
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: we do the Super Bowl show. It's already annoying me

1062
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: that we know when we do the little recap right

1063
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: after the season, we're gonna have to wait for this one. Um.

1064
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: But DJ has gotten offers in the past and he

1065
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: hasn't taken it because it's good to be DJ. He's

1066
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: got a lot of children, he's in San Diego, very

1067
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: stable job. I mean it could be you know, it's

1068
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: not easy, but it could be more taxing. I think

1069
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: being a GM is a lot more taxing. So I

1070
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: don't think he wants to leave this. Here's my thought

1071
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: on it. I can totally see him one day going

1072
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: back into the league in that role, but jumping straight

1073
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: to the GM, even with his scouting experience. I could

1074
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: see his buddy Joe Douglass hiring him as like a

1075
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: right hand man for a year or two and then

1076
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: maybe him leveraging that down the road to be a GM.

1077
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take you not because I don't think

1078
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: Daniel could leave, because that could happen, but because that

1079
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: jump seems pretty big. So I will take you on that. Well,

1080
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: it feels like a Mike Mayauki and jump to me.

1081
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: And I think that people out there might think that

1082
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: Daniel doesn't It doesn't, but it represents It's also the Raiders,

1083
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are It's that was a very Raiders move,

1084
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: which I didn't. I don't mean that's good or bad,

1085
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: but like a Raiders team does that. That's too many

1086
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: teams would have done that, it would be a little different.

1087
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: I just want to commend Greg and Dan on their

1088
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: analysis of this, just unpacking the permutations of this, of

1089
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: this prop I mean, with without six or seven years

1090
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: worth of experience, I don't know we could get to

1091
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: this level of analysis, but you guys nailed it, and

1092
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: I agree totally. I think that at some point in

1093
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: DJ's life this will this will become a realistic option.

1094
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: But I agree that because of the ages of himself

1095
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: and his children. Right now, I don't think he leaves

1096
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: for a GM job, and he is the oft hyphen

1097
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: coaxed duel Jeremiah. I mean this is an annual thing

1098
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: for him where they try to poach him from NFL network.

1099
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's ever been offered the GM job,

1100
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: so maybe that would be different. But but I would

1101
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: take you up on it. I agree with the analysis

1102
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: put forth by my esteem colleagues. A right, well, he

1103
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: got to get to that. He's got to get to

1104
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: that second. It's the the sec can peak. When the

1105
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: kids go to college. Then you then you soar again

1106
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: that's this time, or you pay for their college by

1107
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: doing this. You know college is not cheap. All right, Um, Greg,

1108
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: you're up next. All right. You know I feel like

1109
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: l A gets a bad rap. You know, it's like

1110
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It's and or people are just like, oh,

1111
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: you know the traffic or oh it's like I want

1112
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: to go back to my real home where there's seasons

1113
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: and stuff. Oh, l A. You know, it's like phony

1114
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: people like, hey, how about love the one you're with?

1115
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: I love Los Angeles. This pandemic, it's brought me closer

1116
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: to it. Oh this hard knocks. We're gonna put the

1117
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: two chargers in this pandemic. Yeah, that's not what I'm saying.

1118
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying. I love I do love l A.

1119
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: The bar. I've lived here, and uh, people thought this

1120
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: Chargers Rams was gonna be a snooze on hard knocks,

1121
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: and you know what, it's been interesting. These teams have

1122
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: come through and I think they're gonna keep coming through.

1123
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: So how about a little hometown spirit here both the

1124
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: Rams and the Chargers at the playoffs this year? And um,

1125
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, my daughter Elis, who's a Rams fan, will

1126
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: will certainly be happy with that. It's a very on brand.

1127
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. Most l A teams make it.

1128
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: Remember seven teams make the playoffs in each conference this year,

1129
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: so that's gonna help a team like the Charges and

1130
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: the Rams. Frankly, is what to me appear to be

1131
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: fringe playoff teams. You might get one, you won't get both.

1132
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: So I will take you up on it. It feels

1133
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: like there are more fringe teams than ever this year.

1134
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: I think that's working against Greg and I'm not buying

1135
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers quite yet as a playoff team. Um, don't

1136
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: trust the quarterback. It's that simple. So I will take

1137
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: you up on it. It's like I hate. I hate

1138
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: this weather, and you know, all the different cultures and

1139
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: the great food. You want to say, I want to

1140
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: I want to go back home to winter. People I don't.

1141
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: I find that most of the people that don't like

1142
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: l A are people that actually have ever lived here.

1143
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: And then it's there's a little bit of there's also

1144
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of jealousy cooked in because they know

1145
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: how nice it is here a hundred and twenty degrees

1146
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: yesterday notwithstanding. But I always thought that, as someone who's

1147
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: now lived in l A for like twelve years, I

1148
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: get why people try to hate on l A. But

1149
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: the people I actually live here tend to fall for

1150
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: it in the same place. And a little piece of

1151
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: my soul dies every day. You know, Yes, I do

1152
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: feel like you have more more love for l A

1153
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: than you did the first couple of months, when I

1154
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: would drag you down to Irish times and you would,

1155
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: uh make it very clean. The first few years were

1156
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: full fear and loathing of l A. And now it's

1157
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: more just like my old acceptance that my soul is

1158
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: slowly dreaming and now and not in in a few

1159
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: more years, you'll just you'll be because here's the thing,

1160
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have these these beautiful memories with Lincoln, then

1161
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna think, like, you know, that's that's my home,

1162
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: my family's my home. This is this is meso Phonia

1163
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: from West because I do remember the transition was difficult.

1164
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: And then I remembered him saying on numerous occasions right

1165
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: around the time when he was falling in love with Lakisha,

1166
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: how much he was joining in l A. And he

1167
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: feels like he found a home. And now you've you've

1168
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of you're ebbing and flowing. It seems well. I

1169
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: think my number one issue with l A is stomping

1170
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: on people like there's no real family here. People moved

1171
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: from their families and other parts of the country come here,

1172
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: put themselves first, and then stomp on everyone. Measure themselves

1173
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: against everyone by the power dynamic and every relationship, and

1174
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: are suspicious of everything that does not involve a hund

1175
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: that's selfish interests. I mean that author next star, really,

1176
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: let's be giving you guys the business lately. That's just

1177
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: how I feel about la I don't know how he

1178
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: got the show back after that, but we're gonna keep

1179
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: going here. Um, all right, who's up? Is it. Who

1180
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: just went It's west, go ahead? But bynyway? What Greg?

1181
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: I will take you on that. I think the Rams

1182
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: are a playoff team, but I don't think the charges

1183
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: are good. All right, Scary Terry McLaurin, DJ Chark one

1184
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: of the two. We'll finish in the top five and

1185
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: Fantasy points at wide receiver who I'm gonna take it regardless,

1186
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: But just for housekeeping, is this points per reception scoring

1187
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: or not? No? We go by standard Fantasy points. Reception

1188
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: is an outrage. Don't give these guys points for catching

1189
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: a ball? Okay, reasonable minds disagree. I think I would

1190
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: be in but not reasonable But okay, but I'll thank

1191
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: you either way. Here's the backwards pass for five yards.

1192
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: Give him a point. It was really hard to catch

1193
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: that bubble screen behind the screen would be amazing. But Terry,

1194
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: Scary Terry is the guy I think I could lose

1195
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: this on that he could do it. But I'm gonna

1196
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: take you on the fundamental flaw with the prop here

1197
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: and why I'll be taking it is there are so

1198
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: many awesome quarterbacks in the league that are paired with

1199
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: great wide receivers. This is a Gardner Minshew, Dwayne Haskins

1200
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: wager as well on some level, and I just like

1201
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: many other tandems out there to put up those numbers.

1202
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: So I will take you. I'll take it West, But

1203
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: I I think that we're being a DJ Shark feels

1204
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: like he could do it. I think the Jaguars are

1205
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: gonna be playing from behind week after week. Minshew if competent,

1206
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: and I believe in Minshew is going to heat. They

1207
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: connected right away Last year DJ Shark and Minshew had

1208
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: big plays right out of the gates starting Week one.

1209
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: So I think I think there's gonna be big totals

1210
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: and a big fantasy year on a terrible team. The

1211
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: quarterback point is valid, damn. But there's a flip side

1212
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: to that. When you're easily the number one threatening offense

1213
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: and there are no real Number two is number three's

1214
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: and number four, you're getting funneled targets. Pretty heaven that's

1215
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: true too for sure. Um all right, I'm up. Like

1216
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: I said, things I want to have happened, and I

1217
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: know it's not likely. But the Jets enter Week seventeen

1218
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: with a mathematical path to the playoffs, Well i'll take

1219
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: you on that. Um, there there are seven teams making it,

1220
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: which is certainly playing into my Rams and Chargers pick

1221
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: Rams would have made it last year. In fact, if

1222
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: there was a seven team and and the a f

1223
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: C East could be so bad that seven and eight

1224
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: has a chance going into weeks seventeen, So you could

1225
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: back door it that way or anyway you want. But

1226
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: I still personally see the Jets as one of the

1227
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: worst teams in the league and feel like the Bears.

1228
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills have a pretty high floor. Um

1229
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: and uh, and that's gonna hurt I will dan, I

1230
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: will take it. I like the optimism, and I really

1231
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: like it for Greg Williams to finally get a head

1232
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: coaching job off of like a four game win streak.

1233
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: Is the interim head coach so uh, you know arrow up.

1234
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: Um Yeah. I think that there's every case to make

1235
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: that the Jets are gonna go for and twelve, including

1236
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: Adam Gates being so bad at this that there's some

1237
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: type of total meltdown by week eight. But just like

1238
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: to try to spin it optimistically. If the defense is okay,

1239
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: and as much as people are including myself, has said

1240
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: that like Sam Donald is not getting a chance this year,

1241
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line is getting very good grades uh for

1242
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: people covering the team that this could work and it's

1243
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a much better unit. And then while no

1244
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: one is going to confuse the Jets with a great

1245
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: uh group of playmakers, it's not terrible. I mean, Levyan Bell,

1246
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: Bochard Perriman, Denzel Mims, Jamison Crowd or Christopher Herndon. There

1247
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: are some pieces there. So then it becomes for me like,

1248
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: do you believe Sam Donald can get better and make

1249
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: the leap? And by this time next year people will

1250
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: be like, oh no, he's the wuter back of the Jets,

1251
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: And I sincerely hope and also believe it. So this

1252
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: is a Sam Donald wager for me more than anything else,

1253
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: that he keeps them interesting and in the mix because

1254
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: he will get better. We'll see if it actually plays

1255
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: out that way. Probably won't, all right, I'll take you

1256
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: up on that. I think more chance of the gates

1257
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: meltdown happening. Yeah, alright, one more round, let's uh, let's

1258
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: hit a quick mark. All right now. I want to

1259
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: remind you that in a very weird there were reports

1260
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: that bubbled up um months ago that got basically didn't

1261
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: even make headline stacks released footage of Navy naval officers

1262
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: UM multiple occasions encountering UFOs with no idea what they were.

1263
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: You can go find these, There's actual transcripts all of it,

1264
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,959
Speaker 1: and I in another year would have been big news.

1265
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: It would have been a discussion point, and there's more

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01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: stuff to come with it. I think that we are

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: going to get UM some very surprising yet crystal clear

1268
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: evidence uh during before this football season ends, that you know,

1269
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: to go a step further, that the government will be

1270
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: forced to acknowledge UM interaction with life beyond earth. And

1271
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: my prop is this that there will be a moment

1272
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: um where Bill Belichick is forced to answer at least

1273
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: one question in a press conference about his view on

1274
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: this and what it means. UM. I'm gonna go with one,

1275
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: but I think there will be follow up questions too,

1276
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: until Bill finally, you know, spills the beings on how

1277
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: he feels about this. I don't know, this just sounds crazy,

1278
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: but I mean that would have been risky to go

1279
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: with the follow up. But you're playing so this this

1280
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: is based on the fact that this stuff is, these

1281
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: news reports are already out there, and so I think

1282
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: something more declarative, more crystal clear will bubble up and

1283
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: coaches will be asked. But I'm picking Bill Belishick specifically. Well,

1284
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: so for like making it no because it was gonna

1285
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: be nebulous again and cause issues. But once you it

1286
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: doesn't matter like how how much we we need to

1287
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: buy into it or whether it counts as something that's

1288
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: crystal clear. As long as Belichick is asked about it.

1289
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: You don't yourselves no no, no, can't be mean if

1290
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to believe in the theories or the

1291
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: evidence yourself. Just that Bill Belichick must be asked about it.

1292
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: I would imagine he doesn't believe it either. Here, I

1293
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: just don't want you can't ask it either, right, I

1294
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: don't want to hear Mark because if if the following

1295
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: circumstance happens, are outgoing hopefully President Um you know, admits

1296
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: some contact with the aliens, but no one ever asked

1297
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: Belichick about it, you lose the prop and you know,

1298
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, you don't start tweeting about it and saying like, oh, yeah,

1299
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: I was close enough. Now that's what it usually happens.

1300
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: But no, you got you need the questions. I I listen,

1301
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: I've tried to make these less long and stuff and

1302
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: more you know clear, and this is Bill Belichick needs

1303
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: to be asked. And no, Danna will not be me asking.

1304
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: That would be pathetic. If I had to get to

1305
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: somehow to get the Fox bro to ask the question

1306
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: and signed into the have to go to Fox on it.

1307
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: It will not be me asking. I'll take you up

1308
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, yeah, for sure, it feels more

1309
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: possible than ever, but I still will take take you

1310
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: up on it. I feel like think because um, we

1311
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: have an administration that has shown an active interest in

1312
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: this sort of content going back to before they were

1313
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: an administration, and it's kind of into it. So at

1314
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: least that you know that that feels more possible than

1315
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: in any other previous administration. Well, I think most years

1316
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: that I've been at NFL Network, Bill Belichick has been answered,

1317
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: has been asked more questions on their coaches because of

1318
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Week and media Night. And I don't think

1319
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: he's getting that this year. I don't think he's getting

1320
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: the question about UFOs either. All right, so we all

1321
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: take you up on it. Mark, Greg. Let me see

1322
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: you got a couple of this is supposed to be

1323
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: the onion hanging around really although you've taken off, You've

1324
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: taken both of mine completely. But I'll go for the

1325
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: more interesting one because the other one's fantasy, and you

1326
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: know that's marks corner. Now. I I will just say

1327
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: the defending uh NFC champions and number one overall pick

1328
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean overall seed in the NFC a year ago.

1329
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: The forty Niners do not make the playoffs. You have

1330
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: been you have been hinting and and poking at the

1331
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 1: Niners for about three or four weeks on the show.

1332
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: You've been hiding what's obviously a feeling from you that

1333
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: your way down on them, but you haven't really come

1334
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: out and say it. You finally do that, they dive

1335
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: bomb out of postseason contention with an extra playoffs scene

1336
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: in the mix too. I gotta take you up on that.

1337
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, I don't feel all that hot

1338
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: about it. Of course I see the other route, um,

1339
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: but I think it's more likely than people would give it.

1340
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: Credit to a very deep NFC, a very good division, um,

1341
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: and I could see things going sideways. It's a good one.

1342
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: This one could go either way. I think I'm gonna

1343
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: stay out. Wow, I'm taking you Wow. It's gonna cost

1344
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna cost you a sandwich. West, So we're at

1345
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: that great Santa Monica, tell you that uh loves so much.

1346
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean, every every day a different forty nine or

1347
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: go down with an injury. Right, that's a bad luck.

1348
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: That's a bad luck. It is about all right, West,

1349
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: all right, here's my onion hanger. Neither Drew Brees nor

1350
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: Tom Brady finishes the season as QB one. Wait, what's both?

1351
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: It could be by injury, could be by benching one

1352
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: or the other. Neither one finishes the season atop the

1353
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: depth chart as the daring quarterback. That's like four over

1354
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,799
Speaker 1: forty onion hanging hangers. I don't know a lot of onions.

1355
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: I West, that's great, that's legit onion, and I'll take

1356
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: you on it. I will too, because they've been two

1357
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 1: of the most remarkably durable quarterbacks in the history of

1358
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: the league. As well. What happened if you put Peyton

1359
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: Manning out there right now, sooner or later, the body

1360
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: maybe would have to get hurt. I mean, I can't imagine,

1361
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: no matter how bad he plays them, putting in Blaine

1362
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: Gather for him, because if getting benched, what if the

1363
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 1: Bucks are like six and ten or you know, five

1364
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: and ten and week I could see like a crazy

1365
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: scenario where the Saints season went horrible and look, I

1366
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: have them in the super Bowl. So I don't believe this,

1367
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 1: but that they're five and five and Sean Payton calls

1368
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: on old Jamis in the bullpen. But that would be

1369
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: a wild timeline to be living. Um, alright, so do

1370
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: we all take yes? We all take all? Right? Finally,

1371
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: I have Kai for Bath, currently unemployed, hits a game

1372
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: winning field goal in the final minute of regulation or

1373
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: overtime at some point this season. Not only does he

1374
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 1: find his way back to a roster he should be

1375
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: on a roster right now. The Cowboys did him dirty

1376
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: on a number of levels. Uh, he will also find

1377
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: himself in a big spot and most importantly, execute in

1378
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: the biggest of all spots late in a game when

1379
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: the team needs him. I am taking you on this scene.

1380
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: I think that you tell you, guys, give me a

1381
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: game tying field goal to or does it have to

1382
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: be a game winner? No game winner? What about extra

1383
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: points to be field goal? I couldn't do that. I

1384
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: couldn't gotta go for it with game winner. Then then

1385
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: when you win when you do win this stend like

1386
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna look have a kicker right now. They have

1387
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 1: two on their practice squad, none on their active roster.

1388
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: They did have that week with Kai last year, didn't they?

1389
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: They can give him has been around, he's been around

1390
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: the block. But Kai gets signed. Kai wins the game,

1391
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: doesn't have to win the game, Sarah, who puts a

1392
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: team ahead in the final minute or overtime. Yeah, that

1393
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: would be fun. That would be fun. Now. I do

1394
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: want him back in the league just to see, just

1395
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: like to be tracking this development in the final minutes

1396
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: of two teams that are way out of contention in

1397
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: December own red zone Kai for Beth red zone. Um,

1398
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: all right, before we say goodbye Ricky Hollywood. As per tradition, Erica,

1399
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 1: we always have a producer that makes a prediction, you know.

1400
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: And it's such a great tradition. Because Sydney, we missed Sydney.

1401
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: I hope everything's going well with her. She had some

1402
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: great predictions back in the she was so great at it.

1403
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: What do you remember from them? There was there was

1404
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: one of about Ezekiel. Who was it? You're right, yeah,

1405
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: Like Erica didn't think we remember one, but we did

1406
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: multi i think a league leading sacks season and it

1407
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: was such a great conversation that we really enjoyed it.

1408
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: And now it's time for you, Ricky to make your

1409
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: own prop. Well, thanks for that, you guys. Um. After

1410
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: rushing four hundred sixty two times for one thousand, nine

1411
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: forty yards and twelve touchdowns during his two years with Washington, right,

1412
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is now with the Lions. But the Lions

1413
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: have carry on Johnson, they have the rookie DeAndre Swift

1414
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: who was a little banged up, but it could not

1415
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: be as bad as as we think, and even you

1416
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: know Bostcarborough. So here's my depth chart order. So Swift

1417
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: is going to be first, then Johnson than Peterson. Okay,

1418
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: all that being said, Adrian Peterson will still have more

1419
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: than five hundred rushing yards this season. Hmm, Look, she

1420
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: did her homework. The depth chart though, has nothing to

1421
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: do with it. No, that was more just a little

1422
01:15:55,080 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: much like a lot of Barborough. I think he's on

1423
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: the injured reserve right now. But um, five yards, that

1424
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: feels like a perfect over under one, Ricky. If you're

1425
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: in the desert where you would you would get about

1426
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: equal equal pick equal action on both sides, but intriguing.

1427
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: I'll take you up on it because it just feels unsporting. Um,

1428
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: I think this is your first one on is it?

1429
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember last wronk didn't I

1430
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: say that, Well, we we had to be last year.

1431
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: Documented it doesn't happen, I'll take you you have. You

1432
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: got a good chance I think to either like win

1433
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: this by a lot or he's not on the team

1434
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: in week four one one or the other. Yeah, Mark,

1435
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: I'll take you to I. I think it's this is

1436
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: a great prop and he could get he could help

1437
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: you out early on. I think he's gonna see a

1438
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 1: lot of work on Sunday. And if they like him

1439
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: and Derek Bevill, Darryl Bevil knows him very well, and uh,

1440
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: if he brings consistency to the Lions, you might get

1441
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: close to that number. So I'll take it. But I

1442
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: think you did a good job all day. Stays in

1443
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: the picture every time people write him off and said, oh,

1444
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: he has no path to playing time Now Darius Guys

1445
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: isn't around getting hurt all the time anymore. But I

1446
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: still think he does. I think he comes close, but

1447
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you up on it in the spirit

1448
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: of the game, Ricky and just we have somebody that

1449
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: documents all this stuff. This is your second ever wager

1450
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: back in Ricky, you um said that Julian Edelman after

1451
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: he tours a c l U in a preseason game,

1452
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: you said he'd come back and play that season, And

1453
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: you got that wrong. You were at one at that point,

1454
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,799
Speaker 1: working your way up the depth chart. Um, the producer

1455
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: depth chart at NFL dot com. Multiple starters. Yeah, I

1456
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: love that. It's a tradition that you have your producer.

1457
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: You don't give a sandwich prop every year. And this

1458
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: is my second one. I think you're on VACA. I

1459
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: think you you took the weekend off. I believe I'm

1460
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: trying to think. Okay, let me let me for the record,

1461
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking that one too. Okay, maybe you guys, maybe

1462
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: you guys will go with this one. Julian Edelman had

1463
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: six touchdowns and twenty nineteen with Tom Brady. Okay, and um,

1464
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: what year was Cam Newton getting all that m v

1465
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: P buzz? Okay, Edelman had seven touchdowns. Okay, God works

1466
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: in mysterious ways. Boys. This year, Edelman will have eight

1467
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: touchdowns with Cam Newton boom eight or at least at

1468
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: least eight. Yeah, he's only he's had six the past

1469
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: two years. Yeah, you've put me in a tough spot

1470
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't like going with stuff I

1471
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: want to root against, even even if it's mathematically makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to take you on this. I

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Speaker 1: want to see them flourish. I want to see it

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Speaker 1: the twelve. Yeah, this is easy for the exact opsite

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Speaker 1: reason Gregg just stated, I am taking you on this.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna flame out, just like the rest of the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I'll take you on it. I'll take it. I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be funny if he gets seven and then Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton just rushes for the next touch. All right, there

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Speaker 1: you go, Ricky, You're now on the books for multiple sandwiches.

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Speaker 1: And yes again, go get my lunch dot org to

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Speaker 1: track all of this, and we will, like we always do,

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Speaker 1: God willing, the couple of days before the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: will revisit this and see how we all did. Here's

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Speaker 1: a little prediction for you. We're all gonna be terrible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of optimism. Uh, and another reminder coming up

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. In addition, to UH sorry, schedules different now,

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Speaker 1: So Thursday is the next time of this podcast will

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Speaker 1: show up because it will be the UH two shows

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, the preview of week one, and then late

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Speaker 1: Thursday night early Friday morning you'll get our recap of

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Speaker 1: Texans Chiefs. But all so Wednesday will be live on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: Q and A and t NF preview. So again, check

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Speaker 1: out Instagram and our Twitter handles for a link if

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Speaker 1: you need one, but it's on the NFL homepage. Anything else, people,

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Speaker 1: that s fun, fun show. All right? This Dan Hands

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Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm. The Mailman, not the old Man,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the old Boss. I'm the old man now

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Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood from West Hollywood. Till Wednesday. I almost was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, um, next free agency period, I will be

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Speaker 1: out of the country again. I got the same here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my two week vacation during free agency

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Speaker 1: spe