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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm Danielle Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and we're here. We're smiling, we're perky as hell. We're

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Speaker 1: about to I don't know what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Why did I just say my name is so weird?

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle. It was a Oh.

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Speaker 1: I just thought you were trying something new, to try

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Speaker 1: it out, a new look.

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Speaker 3: Oh I wasn't, girl. Feel free to call me out

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Speaker 3: on that shit, because I was not. I was having

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Speaker 3: a panic attack. I don't know what was going on there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, you do enough of these like intros that

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Speaker 1: you're like, how do I change it up today? Could

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Speaker 1: I just be like a completely different person with a

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Speaker 1: completely different voice.

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Speaker 2: Why not try an accent? You know, let's try everything.

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Speaker 3: Let's try to get let's get offensive, let's get rude,

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Speaker 3: let's use our names to start some shit. Well, I'm psyched,

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Speaker 3: like we have a guest today that I'm excited about,

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Speaker 3: and so we don't want to take up too much

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Speaker 3: time up top with our dumb lives.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have a mail bag. I'll speak for myself there.

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Speaker 3: Your life is always fascinating I'm just like gophers and squirrels.

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Speaker 3: But we do have a mailbag, and we have a

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Speaker 3: great mail bag question. I think a question that's so

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Speaker 3: good that we wanted to bring in some backup. We

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Speaker 3: wanted to bring in.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I feel like we brought.

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Speaker 3: In someone so that we could be the backup, Like

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Speaker 3: we brought in a pro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we always try to bring in a pro to

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Speaker 1: answer some of these pressing questions. You guys are lobbing

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Speaker 1: over at us, So I think we did good this time.

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Speaker 2: We've got a good person.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we are unbelievably excited. This is our friend. This

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Speaker 3: is someone that is just such a delight and a

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Speaker 3: bright light on this planet. Our guest today is the

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Speaker 3: co host of The True Beauty Brooklyn podcast, entrepreneur, a

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Speaker 3: licensed esthetician, and a fashion enthusiast. Please welcome Elizabeth Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Woo oh hey guys, Hell, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: We are so excited to have you here. Are exactly right, sister.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys asked me how I wanted to be introduced,

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Speaker 4: and I thought that sounded great. And now I'm listening

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Speaker 4: back and like that is such cheesy bullshit, but it

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Speaker 4: kind of just explains, like what I have, Why I

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Speaker 4: have any place on this podcast whatsoever?

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Speaker 1: Now, everybody hates writing a bio for themselves, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and trust me, we listened to your show

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Speaker 3: and you are all of that and so much more so.

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Speaker 3: Like the fact that you were even able to pare

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Speaker 3: it down is fantastic to me.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you guys are the sweetest.

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Speaker 3: You're just an astonishing woman. Oh you have done an

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Speaker 3: astonishing amount of things. So shout them from the rooftops.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are big, big fans. Here we have a

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Speaker 2: listener who wrote in yes, love it.

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Speaker 1: You're the perfect person answer this question. So here it is. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Danyelle and Milly love the podcast. Thank you for giving

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Speaker 1: us such good info and so many good laughs. So

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Speaker 1: I think my question is fashion related, if you don't mind.

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Speaker 1: I think how they hesitated like, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys like fashion, but I'm just gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: it's a fashion question.

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Speaker 3: That's the true listener they listen to the Joggers Versus

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Speaker 3: Sweatpants episode.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they're right.

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Speaker 1: I had a weird thought as I was watching Don't

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Speaker 1: Tell Mom the Babysitters Dead for your looks like a

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Speaker 1: pum feels like a sneaker episode, which was hilarious. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I feel like a lot of the Christina

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Speaker 1: Applegate looks in that movie are sort of modern again.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys were talking about her office outfits

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Speaker 1: a lot in the episode, but I know I've seen

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Speaker 1: a black haltertop with belted oversized jeans on at least

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Speaker 1: one Instagram influencer account lately, and I've definitely seen guys

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Speaker 1: with the Keith Coogan long hair.

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Speaker 2: And Rip Jean's look again.

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Speaker 1: So I guess I'm wondering what do you ladies think

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Speaker 1: Katie Holmes movies to see what will be at Asha

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Speaker 1: m soon? Are we going back to short skirts and

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Speaker 1: tight shirts a la Regina George from Mean Girls? Do

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Speaker 1: I start over plucking my eyebrows?

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Speaker 2: Now? Who decides this? I'm scared? Thank you for reading

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Speaker 2: my email and any advice you can spare bethany truly

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Speaker 2: wonderful question.

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Speaker 4: I loved, I love, love love this question. This is

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Speaker 4: great and I was so honored that you guys would

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Speaker 4: ask me. I was like me, of all people.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, like we said, you have such a wide

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Speaker 3: and varied experience, so of course you of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, so I loved this question because especially with you know,

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Speaker 4: social media, with Instagram, I think that like we just

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Speaker 4: see so much fashion and so much style these days,

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Speaker 4: and I I think it's fantastic. As to what the

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Speaker 4: listener was kind of asking, I have a very sort

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Speaker 5: It goes back. Yeah, it starts historically people.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So, like if we want to think about fashion,

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Speaker 4: I think the best way to really think about fashion,

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Speaker 4: especially fashion through the ages, is through silhouettes.

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Speaker 5: I got you thinking, Danielle, I love this.

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Speaker 2: Unfer already I'm upset. I love it.

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Speaker 4: So if we think about like the modernity of fashion, right,

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Speaker 4: and we're going to go back to Paul Poiret at

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Speaker 4: the turn of the century, and so Paul Poiret was

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Speaker 4: kind of like the first fashion designer. He was from

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Speaker 4: Like I just literally Wikipedia this so that I wasn't

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Speaker 4: lying from you know, welcome to our mo o. How

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Speaker 4: we do our research? Yes, so from like the end

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Speaker 4: of the eighteen hundreds to like the mid nineteen hundred,

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Speaker 4: like to the beginning of the nineteen twenties or something.

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Speaker 5: Paul Pooray was it.

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Speaker 4: He was kind of like the first fashion designer as

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Speaker 4: we know it, and he was the person that they

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Speaker 4: say he freed women from the course set.

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Speaker 5: So he really created quote unquote.

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Speaker 4: The first silhouette in that it was everything was baggy.

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Speaker 4: This was the first time that women didn't have to

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Speaker 4: wear the corset. That would be sort of the undergarments

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Speaker 4: that would create these like ridiculous silhouettes that we know

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Speaker 4: from you know, pre modern times, Oh my gosh, with.

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Speaker 6: Like that tiny waist and the big butt.

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Speaker 4: Yes exactly, the big bustle butt or like the wide

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Speaker 4: white hips exactly. So from Paul Up even if you

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Speaker 4: Everything was super loose. Everything was super boxy. When we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so from there you can kind of see

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Speaker 4: after that, like everything speeds up a little bit faster,

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Speaker 4: of see each silhouette changing. So I guess to say

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Speaker 4: In terms of this question, if we think of the eighties,

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Speaker 4: And then the nineties we can even look at this

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Speaker 5: Everything was freed again. Right. It was very baggy, it

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Speaker 5: was very loose. It was the opposite of the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Girl.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to tell me twice.

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Speaker 2: I lived it right.

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Speaker 3: Decades y'all were like free the boobies to the no bra,

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Speaker 3: extra extra extra large shirt exactly when I technically wear

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Speaker 3: a smaller medium like cover it up.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So I guess to answer the question is the

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Speaker 4: way that I always look at fashion is person to person.

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Speaker 4: I think, think what silhouette you want to wear? Think

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Speaker 4: what silhouette looks best with your body type? Yes, and

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Speaker 4: from there you can play with fucking anything. You don't

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Speaker 4: have to be confined to what's in right now, what's trendy.

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Speaker 4: You can always play around with the different fashion trends,

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Speaker 4: but no, what looks good on you. So you're not

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Speaker 4: going pencil thin and Regina George, You're going to like

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Speaker 4: whatever works within your body type and just pulling things

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Speaker 4: from here, from different ages, from different times, whatever that

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Speaker 3: This is like, I know that this is that we're

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Speaker 3: answering Bethany's question, but this is revolutionary advice for me.

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Speaker 3: Me too, like revolution As I sit here in a hoodie,

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Speaker 3: which I will every day and a hand wrap every day.

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Speaker 5: That's your silhouette though, that's your silhouette that works.

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Speaker 2: Do you know it kind of is Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Love that and it makes you feel comfortable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And then even if you take that like your

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Speaker 4: head wrap, if you want to dress it up, dress

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Speaker 4: it down, that's still your silhouette, you know, and you

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Speaker 6: You are just you're casually changing lives out here.

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Speaker 3: Because I think it's the thing about Bethany's question that

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Speaker 3: decides this? Like should we be scared that low rise

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Who decides? Because that is the most terrifying thought to me. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: modern times, I will not go back to thin eyebrows

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Speaker 3: and low rii jans.

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Speaker 4: The answer is, low rise jeans look good on nobody

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Speaker 4: besides Britney spears because we all eat.

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Speaker 6: Carbs, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Nobody's belly is that flat ough, nobody's.

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Speaker 1: Well and also too like to me, it's I think

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Speaker 1: it's just sort of interesting when you just simply live

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Speaker 2: From like the past come back.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's kind of like what's interesting

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Speaker 1: and being like, Okay, so now I've seen like the

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Speaker 1: eighties revival happen, the early nineties revival happened. Now we're

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Speaker 1: like moving towards the late nineties, and then that's when

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Speaker 1: you start like thinking about the low rise jeans and

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Speaker 1: the Britney spears and everything else.

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Speaker 5: Oh totally.

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Speaker 1: I just remember being like in my twenties when that

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Speaker 1: Like even when it was happening, I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I can't do anything, not my silhouette.

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Speaker 2: I tried on one.

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Speaker 3: Pair of low Rise jeans in the store low Rise Levi's.

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Speaker 6: I was like, I can try it.

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Speaker 3: I worked in the mallah, tried them on bent over

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Speaker 3: and my ass literally fell out, And I was like,

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Speaker 3: these are not for me.

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Speaker 4: I mean everybody's ass fell up, but we kept doing

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Speaker 3: Why right, I've been wearing those highwayted mom jeans. They

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Speaker 3: didn't come back and style for me because I never

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Speaker 4: You know what, You're absolutely right, and this is something

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Speaker 5: Bitch. You have what they call quote unquote a pair

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Speaker 5: It's true.

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Speaker 4: No, it's one hundred percent true. I'm just watching Succession

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Speaker 4: I see them, I fix them, I fix all. I

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Speaker 4: Because when you think of a baby, you think of round,

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Speaker 3: All Your face is going to make that decision for you, essentially, yeah, essential, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 5: You get to keep them your eyebrow hairs. How old

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Speaker 3: Do you get to keep your eyebrow? Oh? Use makeup

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Speaker 3: I love that. Don't succumb to the pressure yes what

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Speaker 3: Just wear what fits your silhouette. This is like changing advice, Sephany.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's overwhelming too to see like certain

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Speaker 1: But after a certain time, you're like, yeah, that's not

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Speaker 4: So and do you know what, every time I straight

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Like I know this about myself, and every

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it'll be in a pile, a donate pile eventually.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, just got to give it away.

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Speaker 1: My closet is like a graveyard of shit that I

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Speaker 4: That part is so depressing because you keep trying it on,

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Speaker 5: It doesn't know, it doesn't work. You know better.

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Speaker 2: I am so grateful for this.

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Speaker 3: The only movie look that I'm excited for it to

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Speaker 3: to whenever it becomes popular. But otherwise, Elizabeth, we cannot

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Speaker 3: thank you enough for coming on this show, for answering

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Speaker 3: Dathane's question and truly answering ours, answering the questions.

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Speaker 2: We didn't even know we had. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You are a gem.

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Speaker 4: I love to talk. I'll talk about anything, clothes. It's

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Speaker 4: a dream come true. Thank you guys so much for

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Speaker 3: Well come back, please come back, Please come back anytime.

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Speaker 4: Anytime, anytime. And you guys are gonna come. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: Look him by a head. I'm like, yes, it's gonna

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much for having me. You guys

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Elizabeth, Thank you absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we got a bit of a thing this

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Speaker 2: Let what you said that like, this week is special.

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Speaker 1: We got a bit of a theme, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the vocal stylings happening in this episode this week.

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Speaker 3: Our theme this week is an oldie, but a goodie.

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Speaker 2: It's a banger.

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Speaker 3: It is perfect for the next month of you wrapping

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Speaker 3: Our theme this week is just because you can, doesn't

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Speaker 1: done this before. This is a recurring theme. The last

444
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Speaker 1: time we did this, we chose a movie called Footloose

445
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Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty four. We paired it with a remake,

446
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Speaker 1: So guess what we're doing it again. It is a

447
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Speaker 1: theme that's based on watching an original film and the remake, right, Yes,

448
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Speaker 1: And I gotta say part of the design for the

449
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Speaker 1: theme is that it's a question of whether or not

450
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Speaker 1: it should have been done in the first place, Like

451
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Speaker 1: should we have remade films in the first place? I

452
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Speaker 1: mean we sort of talked about that in a general

453
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Speaker 1: sense the last time we did this, Yes, and I

454
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Speaker 1: feel like this time around it kind of just underscores

455
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Speaker 1: all of that conversation that we had of like should

456
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Speaker 1: a movie have.

457
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Speaker 3: Been remade at a later period of time? Oh, and

458
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Speaker 3: this one comes out of the gate with a resounding nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

459
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Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna attempt to be fair about this, but

460
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Speaker 1: sometimes the emotions come through, and I feel like that's

461
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Speaker 1: gonna happen this episode. Danielle is tackling the original, I'm

462
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Speaker 1: tackling the remake. So I gotta tell you, like, putting

463
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Speaker 1: these two up next to each other is gonna be

464
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Speaker 1: real interesting because they are very different, yes, very different,

465
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Speaker 1: and also like sometimes that is the case sometimes you

466
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Speaker 1: have like in the Footloose episode, it felt like there

467
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Speaker 1: was almost like scene foreseeing remakes happening. So it felt like,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, there was the exact same dialogue happening at

469
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Speaker 1: certain points in the remake that was taken from the

470
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Speaker 1: original film.

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Speaker 2: Right, I don't think that this happens once. Oh, with

472
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Speaker 2: these two films.

473
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Speaker 3: There's barely in iota of the original in the remake.

474
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Speaker 3: It is a remake in the loosest possible terms that

475
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Speaker 3: you can apply, and it is something I'm absolutely wanting

476
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Speaker 3: to talk about yes in so many ways, but I'm

477
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Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna start out with our first one. Yes,

478
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Speaker 3: let's just let's get to the original, and then we

479
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Speaker 3: can have all our thoughts coming through. Let me tell

480
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Speaker 3: you the pages of notes I have. If you want

481
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Speaker 3: a reference where my emotional tone is right now, think

482
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Speaker 3: of our Lost Boys episode.

483
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Speaker 2: Yes, go back and listen to the.

484
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Speaker 3: Lost Boys episode Lost Boys and Watermelon Woman. Yes, that

485
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Speaker 3: is where my emotional tone is right now.

486
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Speaker 1: We are driving Grandpa's truck through his own house.

487
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Speaker 2: That's what's going on today.

488
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Speaker 3: One of these movies, certainly is one of these movies

489
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Speaker 3: is driving a truck through Grandpa's house. Our first film

490
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Speaker 3: was released in nineteen ninety one. It was directed by

491
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Speaker 3: Catherine Bigelow and written by Rick King and W.

492
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Speaker 6: Peter Illif and the film is Point Break.

493
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Speaker 2: Roll twenty seven banks in three years, Anything to catch

494
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Speaker 2: the perfect Wave.

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Speaker 1: I lot a put.

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Speaker 3: All right, listen, I'm gonna give you the synopsis because

497
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Speaker 3: we have a lot to discuss.

498
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start up with the synopsis so I

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Speaker 2: don't forget.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

501
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Speaker 3: Also, I've had coffee and it's eight o'clock at night,

502
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Speaker 3: and that's not good for anybody. I'm so excited to

503
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Speaker 3: talk about this. So my one sentenced synopsis A point break.

504
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Speaker 3: A former college football star turned FBI agent who exclusively

505
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Speaker 3: aims for the face during target practice loses his goddamn

506
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Speaker 3: mind when he's tasked with apprehending a group of bank

507
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Speaker 3: robbing surfers, loses is goddamn.

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Speaker 1: Minds Well, I'm also glad that we had just wrapped

509
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Speaker 1: that Katu episode recently.

510
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Speaker 2: Yes, so count is a little bit fresh on the brain,

511
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Speaker 2: a little fresh on the brain. And I gotta say

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Speaker 2: that acting.

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Speaker 3: Not great in this, acting a little wooden in this,

514
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Speaker 3: little woulden. I will say that a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: Just because you can doesn't mean you should. For me,

516
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Speaker 3: is having dialogue in this movie at all? Why have

517
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Speaker 3: anyone talk? They no dialogue, just ran on the beach

518
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Speaker 3: and had their crop top football game.

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Speaker 6: It would be the same film. You would know everything

520
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Speaker 6: that's happened.

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Speaker 2: So did you see this movie when it came out?

522
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Speaker 2: Were you? What's your history with this? Of course I did.

523
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Speaker 3: I was a freshman in high school. It was a

524
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Speaker 3: big summer because this came out right before T two.

525
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw this in theaters and I did

526
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Speaker 3: not have what you would call a refined palette as

527
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Speaker 3: a teenager. But I left this movie and I said,

528
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Speaker 3: never again. This will not be on repeat in my house.

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Speaker 3: I will not be renting this video never again. I

530
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Speaker 3: don't need I've seen it, I did it.

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Speaker 2: I'm done.

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Speaker 1: You just thought it was stupid? Like, what was your opinion?

533
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Speaker 1: I know you didn't have a refined palette, but I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to know. The critic the ninety one Daniel Henderson critic.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety one Daniel Henderson said this ill gross. Everyone's

536
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: wet all the time. I don't like the way they talk.

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Speaker 3: They sound stupid. That's nineteen ninety one danielle in a

538
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Speaker 3: fucking nutshell, ill gross. Wow, they're wet all the time

539
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Speaker 3: and they sound stupid. Wow, Wow, fascinating. I thought this

540
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Speaker 3: was a dumb movie. I thought like, this was a

541
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Speaker 3: very B movie kind of. I was shocked that it

542
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Speaker 3: did even mildly well yeah, in the box office, and

543
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Speaker 3: shocked that it was even remade. But I did not

544
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Speaker 3: see this movie and think, you know what cult classic,

545
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Speaker 3: you know what great acting, you know what good story.

546
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Speaker 3: All of it is insane. I read an article on

547
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Speaker 3: E E with the exclamation point. Yes called these twenty

548
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: three Secrets about Point Break are a total state of

549
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Speaker 3: mind written by Natalie Finn. And at one point, you

550
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Speaker 3: know the article kind of listing things off, and it's like, oh.

551
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Speaker 2: How did this movie come to be?

552
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: Because somebody was sitting on the beach and they were

553
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Speaker 3: just starting to learn how to surf, and they thought

554
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Speaker 3: surf and bank robbers.

555
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: That's how this.

556
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Speaker 6: Movie came to be.

557
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: Someone on a beach just being like, yeah, I like

558
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Speaker 3: to surf now, surf and bank robbers, and then someone

559
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Speaker 3: gave them millions a dollar.

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Speaker 2: Don't you love Hollywood? And sometimes it's just that easy

561
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Speaker 2: for people.

562
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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I love Hollywood. But I also I

563
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Speaker 3: can't with Hollywood sometimes. And it's also kind of strange

564
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Speaker 3: because there are so many things that I do love

565
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Speaker 3: about this movie. Yeah, Like, there are lots of classic lines,

566
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Speaker 3: there are lots of unintentionally funny parts.

567
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Speaker 2: Of this movie.

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Speaker 3: And I have to say also ninety one Danielle was

569
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Speaker 3: all about mister Reeves. Twenty twenty one Danielle Patrick Swayzee

570
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Speaker 3: was pretty incredible in this movie.

571
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, come on, you're talking to a fucking Top

572
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Speaker 1: five journey dancing fan.

573
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Speaker 2: Oh completely.

574
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Speaker 1: I loved him when I first saw it and still

575
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Speaker 1: to this day.

576
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Speaker 2: Patrick Swayzee Rest in peace.

577
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Speaker 3: King. Yes, this is not the first movie he did

578
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Speaker 3: with Keanu Reeve. They were both in a movie, a

579
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Speaker 3: hockey movie called young Blood.

580
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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that this was like that this was

582
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Speaker 2: a reunion for them. Yes, I didn't realize that.

583
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Speaker 3: But I have to say, like, there's something that I

584
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: would love to put this movie on in the background

585
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: and just laugh. But the fact that it's not supposed

586
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: to be funny is what bothers me and what has

587
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: always bothered me about it, because it's an absurd film.

588
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Speaker 1: Look, I was gonna save this for my section, but

589
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm compelled to say it now. I

590
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: saw this much later in life. I never saw this

591
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Speaker 1: when it came out. I saw this really yeah, yeah,

592
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Speaker 1: like not too long ago, for the first time.

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Speaker 6: Like within the last five years, ten years, uh five years?

594
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.

595
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Speaker 6: What was that experience like?

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Speaker 1: Well, to me, it was sort of like I got

597
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Speaker 1: I understood that why it was a cult classic in

598
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Speaker 1: a way, because it was like it was.

599
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Speaker 2: Exactly what you said. I mean, this movie is taking.

600
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Speaker 1: Itself seriously, but it's fucking ridiculous, and that's what a

601
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: cult movie is all about.

602
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Speaker 2: Really. In a lot of ways, it's just sort.

603
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Speaker 1: Of like somebody who made an earnest attempt at something

604
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Speaker 1: and then it just got fucked up somewhere along the line,

605
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Speaker 1: and now we all love it because it is earnest

606
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: and crazy and weird. Yes, But yeah, I could say

607
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Speaker 1: though that if I had seen it when I was

608
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Speaker 1: a young person, I would have had a completely different.

609
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Speaker 2: Experience with it. So I know what you mean. Everyone

610
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: I went to school with did that. Now me, I

611
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: was a little angry lading in the back.

612
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: But I do think for me this film falls very

613
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Speaker 3: much in lost Boys territory, which is it's very, very fun,

614
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: but it.

615
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: Is not good. Yes, I would agree with that. I

616
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: would definitely agree with that fun but not good, which

617
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: is wild.

618
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 3: But there's a little bit of a history to this

619
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Speaker 3: film that props up a very important part of film history.

620
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Speaker 3: So the movie was directed by Catherine Bigelow, who became

621
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Speaker 3: the first woman to win an Oscar for Best Director

622
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Speaker 3: with her film The hurt Locker, and that movie won

623
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Speaker 3: huge in that year that was two thousand and nine.

624
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: I believe, and that movie one big, And she's directed

625
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Speaker 3: these films that have have an importance not just because

626
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: of this of who she is, that she's a woman

627
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: directing them, because of the subject matter, and because of

628
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: her approach and her style. So at the time that

629
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Speaker 3: she won her Oscar, only three other women had even

630
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: been nominated, Lena wert Mueller in nineteen seventy five for

631
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: Seven Beauties, Jane Campion in nineteen ninety three for The Piano,

632
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: and Sophia Coppola in two thousand and three for Lost

633
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: in Translation. So when she won in two thousand and nine,

634
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: like less than you know, a little bit more than

635
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: a decade ago, she was the first.

636
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Speaker 2: The first.

637
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: So this movie and her ability to make movies like

638
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: this that you know, kind of explore a more active life,

639
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: more active kind of subject matter maybe led her to

640
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: having the confidence to be able to do the hurt

641
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: Locker as well. She was married to James Cameron when

642
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: this came out, and he was an executive producer on

643
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: this movie, and then they broke up when he did.

644
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: HiT's Erminator too.

645
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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about that because that's not

646
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: my business, that's their personal business. But yeah, Catherine Bigelow

647
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: is like, you know, cemented her place in history. And

648
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: before she did that, she made this movie. So in

649
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: this movie, four thieves are wearing rubber president's masks, so

650
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: they're Nixon, Carter, LBJ, and Reagan and they only rob

651
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: Banks from June to October. One thing I love about

652
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: that E article that I read by Natalie finn Is,

653
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: she said she pointed out the willingness for some of

654
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Speaker 3: the actors to do their own stunts, and she said

655
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Speaker 3: at one point, Swayzey merrily jumped out of an airplane

656
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: dozens of times to get ready for Bodie's one hundred

657
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: percent pure adrenaline skydiving scene, despite please to get him

658
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: to stop for insurance purposes, which I love. I love

659
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: that about Patrick Swayzey. I just love it.

660
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he became like an active plane jumper after

661
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: the movie. Yeah, like he really he really committed to

662
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: the role, but then he just kind of like got

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00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: into it.

664
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: So he just loved it. He loved it.

665
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: He described it as ballet in the sky because he's

666
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: he got a dance background, and he described as ballet

667
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: in the sky, which I thought was beautiful.

668
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: That's right. Wow.

669
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 3: So much like in our Gleaming the Cube episode, I

670
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: was left to wonder what is point break?

671
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 6: What is a point break?

672
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: So a point break according to surfers, and this article

673
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: I read by Natalie finn Is is the spot where

674
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: the surf crashes on the land and it just creates

675
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: a long wave. That is not how they describe it

676
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: in the remake. And I will talk about that. I

677
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: will talk about that, okay. But the only other important

678
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: background for this film is that Anthony Ketas from The

679
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: Red Hot Chili Peppers is in it with the most

680
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: insane hair could have ever seen. Absolutely, and he apparently

681
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: never came to fight practice until he showed up for

682
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: his first day on set and got punched in the face.

683
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 6: And then he came to practice.

684
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: He was like, I want to do that. I'll like

685
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: get and punch in a face.

686
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: Whoops, which I just think is amazing. So are characters right?

687
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: Again? Huge incredible cast.

688
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: You got Patrick Swayze playing Body, Keanu Reeves playing Johnny Utah,

689
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: Gary Busey is pappas Keanu Reeves's partner. Lori Petty plays Tyler,

690
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: who's kind of the love interest for Johnny. Utah and

691
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: John C. McGinley, who he plays Ben Harp, who's like

692
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: the kind of director of this unit of the FBI.

693
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: If you were to name an actor in the eighties

694
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: most likely to have an aneurism, I would have picked him.

695
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: Yes, he was a dick cop and set it off too,

696
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yeah. This is a recurring theme

697
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: for him is to play these types of asshole authority figures.

698
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: Right.

699
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: Oh, and most of his roles he takes it to

700
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: ten or eleven, like those veins.

701
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: Are popping, fans are popping.

702
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: So the setup is that Johnny Utah used to be

703
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: this football guy, college football player, hurt his knee, started

704
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: studying law, and started working for the FBI, and now

705
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: he's been transferred to LA to work for the Bank

706
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: Robbery Division, which is incredibly strict. Like, according to Ben Harp, he's.

707
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: Like, I don't like what my guys do anything.

708
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: We don't drink, we don't smoke, we don't need donuts, like,

709
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: we don't do anything. And Callery was like, yeah, okay, sure,

710
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: and he like takes a donut right in front of him.

711
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: But the other thing.

712
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: That's wild is he's paired up with Papus Gary Busey,

713
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: God love him, who is just kind of just real,

714
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: kind of rough and tumble and very goofy. So we've

715
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: got Johnny Utah kind of shown up on the scene,

716
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: and his first order of business working with Papas is

717
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 3: to try to figure out these bank robbers. There's been

718
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: this series of bank robberies happening and the limited timeframe

719
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: from June to October, and Papas has an just a

720
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: wild theory that the people committing the robberies are surfers,

721
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 3: and Johnny Utah is like, all right, I'll learn how

722
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: to surf then and I'll.

723
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: Help solve this case.

724
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, but here's a first part

725
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 3: of like, okay, this is a fucked up situation. He

726
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: gets a surfboard, doesn't know what he's doing, goes out,

727
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: immediately wipes it, gets saved by Tyler, and in order

728
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: to get close to Tyler and get in with these surfers,

729
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: he lies about his parents dying in a car crash

730
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: after he finds out that her parents died in a

731
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: plane accident. So he's like, hmm, I gotta find a

732
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: way to get in with this group of surfers. Oh,

733
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: I know both of her parents are dead. Let me

734
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: just casually lie about that.

735
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: Not very sensitive, Johnny Utah, not sensitive at all. It

736
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: was just such a fuck you moment.

737
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, wait, wait, I didn't remember this because

738
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 3: again I've only.

739
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: Seen this movie like once, maybe twice.

740
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to remember this, So I thought that

741
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: was a big fuck you move.

742
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 6: But because Tyler used to date us ate body he does.

743
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: He gets in with this group who just so happened

744
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: to be the bank robbers, as he discovers later in

745
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: the film, but before he discovers it, he has a

746
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: fucking great time with them. Body is like this guy

747
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: who's like searching for the ultimate wave. He's like his

748
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: whole life is about a chasing adrenaline.

749
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: Again.

750
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: He's a big fan of crop top football on the beach,

751
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: love it. He believes in the legend of the fifty

752
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: year Storm, which is like, every fifty years the earth

753
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: throws up these big waves and oh god, it's exhausting

754
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: to listen to. And then he also lights a car

755
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: on fire at a gas station during a robbery by

756
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: using the pump as a flamethrower, which is just such

757
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: a fucking cool scene.

758
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: The character of Body, obviously, between these two films is

759
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: so different.

760
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: There is something.

761
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Though, and I don't know if it's because I lived

762
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: in La for a short period of time and I

763
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: just kind of I grew this weird appreciation for this

764
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: type of guy that Body is in California, right, which

765
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: is this kind of like spiritual hippie's got a lot

766
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: of surfer wisdom and all this stuff like that. I mean, granted,

767
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: he's a criminal and he's performing criminal acts, right, but

768
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: beyond that part, like just the blonde, mulity crop top

769
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: fucking dude with this dub apartment with like the Hawaiian

770
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: shit tacked up on the walls, and he's just kind

771
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: of like a I don't eat donuts, man, I'm just

772
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: like riding a wave and it's life. I'm kind of

773
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: like that's fine. Like I'm kind of like weirdly, you know,

774
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: happy for him in a way. I'm like, cool, you

775
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: figured out a way to be happy, and you've given

776
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: your life a purpose.

777
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: Good for you, exactly good for it.

778
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: But then he's also like using gas pumps as flamethrowers,

779
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: and then that just gets.

780
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 2: That's a that's a whole different story.

781
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: He's multifaceted. He will use the bed to get the

782
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: good in his life. Yes, the bad being bank robberies

783
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: and flamethrowers. Yeah, the good being money to chill out

784
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: and surf all over the world for the.

785
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: Rest of the year. You know what I'm saying exactly.

786
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: And he is.

787
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: He's a very gentle dude in a lot of ways,

788
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: Like when uh Keanu read when Johnny Utah is forced

789
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 3: to he kind of gets in this in a tussle

790
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: with some of the other surfers, one of whom is

791
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 3: named war Child. Yeah, body says like after the fight,

792
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, those guys they only live to get

793
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: radical And I'm like, huh.

794
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: They're like surf Nazis. Surf Nazis must die. Absolutely like

795
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: just wild.

796
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: And when he's describing Tyler, he says she was my woman.

797
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: We shared time, which coming out of his face and

798
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: mouth doesn't sound territorial. It just sounds like that seventies

799
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: kind of hookah smoking, like, Hey, this is my woman,

800
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: this is my lady.

801
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: We shared some time. Yeah, He's like the dude, yes, yes, yes.

802
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: And he you know, overall, this movie is just like

803
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: it's just so stupid.

804
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: That it is fun.

805
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: There's a lot of macho shit going on in some

806
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: masculinity themes, and but it's just kind of fun, Like

807
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: it's a to be an examination of like a man

808
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: confronting the villain that lives within him, or like, I

809
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: don't know, I actually don't know what it's supposed to

810
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: be about.

811
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: I tried to make something up to give it some depth.

812
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: It's about Keanu Reeves laying on his back in the

813
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: rain and shooting a gun into the air.

814
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: That is what this movie is about.

815
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: But there are some beautiful surf scenes, beautiful serf scenes. Yes,

816
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: so that's it. That's all I got.

817
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: That's it, It's all I got for Point Break. The

818
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: og like it is a dumb movie. First of all,

819
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: I have to say Katherin Bickelow.

820
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: When seeing this movie again, now that I've been acquainted

821
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: with some of her earlier films, like even pre Point Break,

822
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, she definitely knows how to shoot

823
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: hot guys.

824
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 2: She knows what she's doing.

825
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, you couldn't have picked like a hotter guy

826
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: in ninety one than Keanu Reeves. Arguably, you probably couldn't

827
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: have picked a second slightly older hot guy than Patrick

828
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: Swayze in ninety one, right, right, And you know, a

829
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: lot of this movie features people with perfect surfing bodies

830
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: and whatnot, and Lori Petty looks fucking great in it too,

831
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Okay, Catherin Bigelow made like a good

832
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: looking movie. Definitely looks great from like, you know, a

833
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: lighting and a landscape perspective, like when they're surfing at

834
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: night and you know, when she's trying to teach them

835
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: how to surf like super early in the morning, I'm like, oh,

836
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: that's so great, great lighting, it's very evocative. It makes

837
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: me miss California, gotta be honest. But then there's just

838
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: like the crime stuff and the like the cop stuff,

839
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: which is sort of like enjoyable, but it's very dumb.

840
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: It's exactly what you said. It's just like that Last Boys,

841
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: sort of like, well, we got a lot of great,

842
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: beautiful images, but then also like there's just like this

843
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: dumb story, but it's fun.

844
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: It's fun.

845
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate that Gary Bucy wants to eat like three

846
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: meatball sandwiches for lunch at ten thirty in the morning,

847
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: Like that speaks to my own heart.

848
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: Obviously.

849
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: Oh God, I love you see in this movie. But

850
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: it is it's a weird, wild concept. It is a

851
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: simple concept. But this is this is also the beauty

852
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: of the film. I think what makes it fun is

853
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: it is a very simple concept, like they're not actually

854
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: you can pull all that like masculinity shit out of

855
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: it if you want to. I think this is just

856
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: a movie that is very on the surface. What it

857
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: is like, it is two guys who are in conflict

858
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: because of what their jobs are.

859
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. And then there's the remake. So I

860
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: have a feelure we're gonna sit with.

861
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: The remake for a while. Oh, we have to, because

862
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: I think we both have a lot to say. We

863
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: have to.

864
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: So my film for the theme just because you can

865
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you should is a movie from twenty fifteen

866
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: is directed by Ericson Corr and it's called What Break.

867
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: I believe that, like.

868
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: The people behind these robberies are extreme athletes.

869
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 5: Using their skills to disrupt the international financial markets, and

870
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 5: they don't care who gets killed in the process.

871
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best to be positive. I'm just

872
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: gonna say that I'm gonna try my best. Okay, not

873
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: sure if it's gonna happen, but I will try.

874
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yeah, I make no promises. I make

875
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: no promises. I've got three pages of notes and I

876
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: don't know what's gonna come out.

877
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

878
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: There's also a lot of questions that are basically unanswered,

879
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: so you're just gonna have to go with us on

880
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: that journey.

881
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: Just go with us on that journey. Yeah, they are

882
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: unanswered and unanswerable. Yes, all right.

883
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't need to give a one

884
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: sense in synopsis, but I'm going to, because why the

885
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: fuck's not a one sentence synopsis of Point Break from

886
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen.

887
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: Check Out these rich guys and their tattoos. That's what's about.

888
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: So here's what I.

889
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: Will say about this, right because we just talked about this.

890
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Part of what I loved about the original Point Break

891
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: is that it is ostensibly about this like spiritual hippie

892
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: guy who is like the leader of these surf punks

893
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: right in LA. And it's very amusing to me because

894
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: I used to live in LA and I sort of

895
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: have formed an appreciation for the specific type of la

896
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: Venice Beach Malibu type of dude. Okay, then, you have

897
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: the like high low cop story, which is like you

898
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: got the young, hot, newbie cop, and then you have

899
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: the veteran slob, which is classically entertaining. That's a classically

900
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: entertaining trope. Then you have the surfing and the sky diving,

901
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: very fun action movie type stuff, very easy to watch.

902
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: So here's the problem with this remake for me. Okay,

903
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: so they took all of the fun stuff from the

904
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: first one, and then they attempted to make this like

905
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: movie that's ten thousand times more serious and dark, which

906
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: is something that I just didn't need to happen personally.

907
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: I just didn't really think that needed to happen.

908
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: Then, on top of that, they center the entire movie

909
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: around eco terrorism and extreme sports.

910
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: Bold moves, both of those bold.

911
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: Moves, right, So it's like take the skydiving and surfing

912
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: and just rampant the fuck up, right. And then instead

913
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: of like these guys sort of being funded by the

914
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: robberies in the remake, they're funded by global billionaires or something,

915
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: which is again don't know why that happened. There was

916
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: a moment where I thought, is that just an excuse

917
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: to like maybe put more like yacht parties in a

918
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: movie or something.

919
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: It's like the whole thing was very firefest to me.

920
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: I have to admit a ah, firefest the movie.

921
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: Yes, actual, if the Firefest had happened, it would have

922
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: been these scenes from the Point Break remake, okay, because

923
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: that was the one thing about the first movie was

924
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: it felt like Patrick Swayzee and his buddies are like

925
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: essentially the red Hot Chili Peppers like Anthony Keenness is

926
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: in the movie, but they're just like la kind of

927
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: like surfer punks with crazy hair. And the only way

928
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: that they get to like go to Australia to catch

929
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: this big waves if they rob banks. This was like

930
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: this whole other like global billionaire conspiracy angle, which I

931
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: thought was weird.

932
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what I think about this. Oh.

933
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: There are two scenes that have just shaken me to

934
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: my core because I never saw this remake until we

935
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: decided to watch it. YEA. One is they're riding a

936
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 3: dirt bike through a diamond mine, which just right off

937
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: the top, just at the top of the movie, it's

938
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: dirt bike through a diamond mine. And while they're doing it,

939
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: it's like they have to show the presidential slogans because

940
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: none of these things they put over their helmets look

941
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: like the actual presidents. Yes, and they're actually borderline racist

942
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: on the Obama and I gotta.

943
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 2: Say, gotta say a little weird. And then the next

944
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: thing you know, they're sky diving through dollar bills. Yes, okay, like.

945
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: This movie is like, this is not a movie about

946
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: surfing anymore. This is like an all purpose dared devil movie. Yes, yes,

947
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: And Delroy Lindo and Ray Winstone are in it, and

948
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: I really feel like they both just needed to re

949
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: up their sad cards. And that's fine, and I respect

950
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: them and I appreciate it, but they deserve better.

951
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: Listen.

952
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I had never heard of

953
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: most of the actors in this movie before watching it,

954
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: except for Delroy Lindo and Ray Winstone.

955
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: Those are only two people I know, ah aka the

956
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: old people, the old people in the movie, the old

957
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: people with two minute scenes. I'd heard of Edgar Ramirez

958
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: because of the Johnny Versaci.

959
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: Show, yes exactly, which I only found out after watching

960
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: the movie and doing research. And I was I loved

961
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: American crime story that Giano versace one. Loved it, loved it,

962
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: loved it, and so when I read that, I was like, Okay, well,

963
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: at least I can place him into some kind of framework. Yes,

964
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: But everybody else I am sadly don't know, don't know

965
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: who they are.

966
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: I could not pick them out of a lineup, even

967
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: now after having seen the film. Yes, there's a credit

968
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: scene at the end of this movie that is fifteen

969
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: minutes long, which we will get to.

970
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: Yes, so they're in that credit scene.

971
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: They have all these producers, but the real producers of

972
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: this movie were Cocaine and Hubris LLC.

973
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: It was like, can we hire our favorite extreme athletes

974
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: from around the world to be in this movie? Yes,

975
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: and do no CGI and just make them do death

976
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: defying stunts and we can just film them and watch

977
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: and think it's cool. Cocaine and Hubris LLC. Okay, So

978
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: there's so many things. Oh, there's so many things, so

979
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: many So here's really the basis of it.

980
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

981
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: In the remake, you've got the character of Johnny Utah Okay,

982
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: very different, very different from the Keanu character.

983
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: He's blonde, first of all.

984
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: Second, he has a bunch of questionable bro tattoos, including

985
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: knuckle tattoos that are facing the wrong direction. Yes, yes, okay, yes,

986
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: And unlike the Keu Johnny Utah, this Johnny Utah is

987
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: into extreme sports, okay, And at one point at the

988
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie he calls himself a poly extreme athlete.

989
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: Is that what he said he was? I believe, or

990
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: he's just Polly. I don't know, but he's he's basically.

991
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: Like a guy that participates in extreme sports of different disciplines.

992
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: So he's into dirt biking, he's into base jumping, he's

993
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: into he's.

994
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: Definitely in a dirt biking.

995
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: We know this because at the beginning of the film

996
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: he is with his friend Jeff. They both are dirt biking,

997
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: they both try some extreme stunt. Johnny Utah lives and

998
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: Jeff sadly passes away from this extreme stunt.

999
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: Or yes, this man.

1000
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 6: Died so hard that Johnny Utah had to join the FBI.

1001
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: Yes, because that's the thing, is that Johnny Utah's grief

1002
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: is suddenly curtailed seven years later into a career.

1003
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: At the FBI. Because he's at the.

1004
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: FBI Academy and he's in basic training, okay, and he's

1005
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: being briefed about these diamond heists that are happening around

1006
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: the world. This is a global again, a global This

1007
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: isn't just like fucking La County bullshit. This is like

1008
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: a global thing, right. It's a group of guys who

1009
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: are wearing like all black. They are stealing diamonds from

1010
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: a diamond factory and then like jumping through windows of

1011
00:48:55,080 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: high rise buildings to escape, like parachuting off of buildings.

1012
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: But I can't even say Johnny Utah is the one

1013
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: who connects the dots that these crimes were all related.

1014
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Yes, because basically John Utah is like, listen, guys, I

1015
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: also dabble in a bit of bass jumping, Okay, so

1016
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: I know what these guys are up to.

1017
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: Okay, they could only.

1018
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: Be attempting to complete the Ozaki eight.

1019
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 3: Okay, we need to talk about the Ozaki eight.

1020
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

1021
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: Whatever this Ozaki eight gets mentioned in the film, it

1022
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: gets mentioned several times because it's like the foundation of

1023
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: any of it, any of this movie happening. It kept

1024
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: reminding me of the Ocho from the from the Will

1025
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: Ferrell comedy Dodgeball.

1026
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: Ah, Like I just kept saying, just call it the oho.

1027
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: I in my notes, I wrote what I called it

1028
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: because right next to Ozaki eight. I wrote okay, fuck off,

1029
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: and that's what I called it every time they mentioned

1030
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 3: in the movie Okay, Okay, fuck off.

1031
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: So the o Show or the Ozaki eight okay is

1032
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: allegedly this thing, this like it was conceived by a

1033
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: Japanese man named Ozaki who decided that in order to

1034
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: achieve this kind of like spiritual enlightenment, you have to

1035
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: complete these.

1036
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: Eight extreme sports tasks.

1037
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: And it's everything from like go down this mountain on

1038
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: your snowboard and almost die, ride this fifty foot wave.

1039
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's like all these like challenges, and here's

1040
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: the fucked up thing. Ozaki himself apparently died when he

1041
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: tried to complete his own shit.

1042
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: But he died it like the third one.

1043
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: Yes, So I'm like, well, he did well, he created

1044
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: this fucking thing and then he didn't even do it himself.

1045
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: Well, also, how are you gonna call it the Ozaki

1046
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 3: eight when he didn't do Ozaki.

1047
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: Didn't do it?

1048
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: Yes, so how do they know it was in Ozaki

1049
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: twenty four or Ozaki seventy.

1050
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 6: Two exactly right now? It's the Ozaki three.

1051
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 2: Yes, it's only the three the Ojo.

1052
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Who knows where that came from maybe there was like

1053
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: a sacred text or something that these fucking knuckleheads found,

1054
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: because let me just tell I gotta talk about these

1055
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: fucking guys. I have to talk about body, the body

1056
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: character and his like goons, his like buddies, like you know,

1057
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: the guys that are helping him out with these diamond heist. Okay,

1058
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna admit something. This is totally my own shit.

1059
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: This is my own opinion. This is my own problem

1060
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: with these guys.

1061
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: Okay. The type of guy that these guys are.

1062
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: They're like these fucking dudes, and they're like arteerics jackets,

1063
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: and they're like free soloing in the name of environmental

1064
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: awareness because remember it's about eco terrorism, so these people

1065
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: like eco warriors. This shit is my worst fucking nightmare.

1066
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: These types of guys, they like laid the groundwork for

1067
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: like the modern outdoorsy male influencer.

1068
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: I fucking hate it. I'm like, come on, thank you.

1069
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: There is a point where I was like, Okay, how

1070
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 3: are you wearing an arctic's jacket and making a fire

1071
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: with a rock and a bird's nest like pick A Lane.

1072
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: This is some Kendall roy shit, Like pick a fucking lane.

1073
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: You're wearing like a three.

1074
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: Hundred dollars windbreaker and you're like, no, we're gonna get

1075
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: back to the earth and like make a fire, Like

1076
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 3: pull out your fucking zippo, pull out your goddamn whatever

1077
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 3: like and make just fucking light something on fire.

1078
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: Yes, And like the New Body again played by Edgar Ramirez,

1079
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: I love him definitely, not the Swayzee with the bleached

1080
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: blood hair.

1081
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: He's not disseminating that kind of like la surfer advice.

1082
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Okay, this new body, new Jack Body, is first of

1083
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: all a brunette, and he is like the essence of

1084
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: that guy who you are seeing on Instagram who is

1085
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: doing a yoga pose at the end of a fucking

1086
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: cliff in South America.

1087
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: Just that guy, like real.

1088
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: All the him and all this bros, really bad tattoos,

1089
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: very expensive gear to do their little o show. And

1090
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: the way that they talk, the way that body talks,

1091
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: it's not even amusing, like I said, in that like

1092
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: spiritual Malibu surfer guyway. It's like this really flat bland.

1093
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: It's like Gatorade commercial wisdom, that's all it is.

1094
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 2: It's basically like low. It's like fucking Lebron.

1095
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: James saying every person is an athlete. It takes commitment,

1096
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: drive performance, drake gatorade. That's the fucking bony character.

1097
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: And it drives me insane. It drives me insane. It

1098
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: totally is.

1099
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 3: He's like he's speaking in riddles, and I'm like, nobody's

1100
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: got time for this base. We're trying to leap off

1101
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: a fucking mountain here, Like, gets me straight. I'm wearing

1102
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 3: a squirrel suit. You just dropped a stone and said

1103
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: I had six seconds to live from the time I

1104
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: leap here at the time I hit the ground, Like,

1105
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: I don't have time for this fucking riddle.

1106
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: Buddha shit, Yes, it's maddening. And so here's the thing.

1107
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: Just like the first film, so Body and his crew

1108
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: they're trying to compete the O Sho, the Ozaki eight whatever,

1109
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: and they're funded by like again like some.

1110
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: Venture capitalist fuck some like farmer Bro that has.

1111
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: A yacht in the Mediterranean, Okay, And then of course

1112
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: the FBI is trying to figure them out. So of

1113
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: course Johnny Utah, being the polyathlete that he is or whatever,

1114
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: they send him to France to infiltrate.

1115
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: The crew, which is my fucking favorite because they're like,

1116
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: welcome to Franz. Here's a burning car in an alley,

1117
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 3: like fuck the Eiffel Tower, the Arch de Triome, Here's

1118
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: a fucking burning car in an alley.

1119
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: Welcome to goddamn Paris. And then here's the thing. They

1120
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: bring in, a field agent named Pappus, just like in

1121
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 2: the first.

1122
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: Film, except instead of the Hawaiian shirt clad goofball fucking

1123
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: meatball sandwich Gary Busey guy, it's instead Ray Winstow, which,

1124
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: by the way, if you do not know the great

1125
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: British character actor Ray Winstone, he is.

1126
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: Not the Gary Busey character. He's the complete opposite of it.

1127
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: He is like if a person could be made of nails,

1128
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: and he's like he's not.

1129
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: Like really a partner.

1130
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: He's kind of like he's kind of like Michael Caine

1131
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: in The Dark Knight Rises. He's just like the I'm

1132
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: not gonna bury another batman guy.

1133
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: Like he's just that guy. Oh God, I love this.

1134
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Trip episode that we just did, I was.

1135
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: Thinking about The Trip when I was watching this movie

1136
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 3: because there's this part where they're like after they climb

1137
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: this mountain and they're like, all right, we'll do it

1138
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: in the morning and I'm like, hey, at daybreak we

1139
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: leap to our death like little flying squirrels. At daybreak,

1140
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 3: we put on our our tarry jacket. Yeah, and pretend

1141
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: that we need to do this.

1142
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: There needs to be a whole new season of The

1143
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: Trip where Rob Brydon and Steve Coogan just make fun

1144
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: of the Point Break remake. I would be in, like

1145
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: they just do impressions from this film.

1146
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: So it's the kind of thing.

1147
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: Where like Johnny Utah, you know, infiltrates the group. He

1148
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: obviously has shops because he knows how to fucking do

1149
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: half the shit these bros are doing, these Body and

1150
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: his bros. And you know, it becomes the whole like,

1151
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: oh shit, I forgot I'm a cop. I'm having too

1152
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: much fun base jumping off the pyramids or whatever.

1153
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 2: The effect they're doing. I'm having so much fun.

1154
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 3: In France where Body punched me so hard my pants

1155
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 3: fell down.

1156
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: Is that the scene where they have a fight club,

1157
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: Like they're in addition to being these extreme sports guys,

1158
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: they also have a fight club.

1159
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: I'm like, what, Yeah, there are mess. These people are

1160
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: a shambles. To quote our lovely producer These people are

1161
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: a shambles.

1162
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: They are in fucking shambles. And and here's the thing.

1163
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: They hired like actual athletes to do all of the

1164
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 1: extremes sports that you will be seeing in this film

1165
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it already.

1166
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: There's this one scene I think it's.

1167
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: Sort of the scene that gets talked about the most,

1168
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 1: where they're in these wind suits and they're like flying

1169
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: through the canyons in these fucking suits, And I'm like,

1170
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: I will never do this. I'm not Richard Branson. I

1171
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: will never fucking do any of this shit. But I'm

1172
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: also like, what.

1173
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 5: Is the point of this?

1174
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm like going, oh, so, like you're flying through

1175
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: a cannon.

1176
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: That seems very cool, But then there's also a moment

1177
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: where you like are flying two inches off the ground

1178
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: and you don't fall. Somehow you don't fall, and then

1179
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: you somehow get back up to an altitude where you

1180
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: actually have to use your parachute, yeah, to come back

1181
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 1: down earth.

1182
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, what does this even make any sense?

1183
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: Like you're like test an airflow and like fun fucking

1184
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: licking your finger and holding it up to the in midair,

1185
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what direction to go. But this scene,

1186
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: which I think you're right, is probably one of the

1187
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: more talked about scenes in the film. Yeah, this scene,

1188
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: it brings me to a larger point about this movie. Yes,

1189
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: one is that these chumps are up there like squirreling

1190
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 3: through the air, and Samsara, the female character, the kind

1191
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: of love interest character, has been diminished so much that

1192
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: by the time they're done squirreling through the air, she's

1193
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: just kind of like delicately baby bouldering at a cat

1194
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: at the cabin and then just like yay, you guys

1195
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 3: are back.

1196
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: So that is.

1197
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: Unreal to me that they whittled this Lori Petty type

1198
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: love interest character down to bare fucking bones.

1199
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: Yes, first and foremost.

1200
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: But her name and that scene lead me to my

1201
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: larger point, which is that this movie takes whiteness to

1202
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: a new level. The whiteness in this movie is unfucking stoppable.

1203
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: We got this white woman going around calling herself Samsara.

1204
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: Johnny Utah at one point has a whole conversation about

1205
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: how his mom.

1206
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: Was Indian and that's why they call him Utah.

1207
00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 3: This Australian blonde giant man has the fucking nerve, nerve

1208
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: to sit in a movie and say that line.

1209
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: Yes, that to me.

1210
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: Was fucking unbelievable, where I was just like, okay, unreal.

1211
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: It's much funnier when there's a jock from the Midwest

1212
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: who plays football and his dumb parents just name him

1213
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: Johnny Utah because they're like, that sounds.

1214
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: Cool, right. I'm okay with that being the origin of

1215
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: the name.

1216
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't need it to be the like spiritual native

1217
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: American white guy thing like, come on, like, it's a

1218
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: little much.

1219
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: It's a little much, you know.

1220
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: I dialed the ACLU and then when they picked up,

1221
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 3: I said, hello, my name's Daniel Henderson.

1222
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: I just watched the Point Break remake.

1223
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: There's a scene where this man says his mom was

1224
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: Indian and that's why they call him Utah. What can

1225
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 3: I do about this? And they said you need to

1226
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 3: hang up the phone, And I wish that was real.

1227
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 3: I wanted to call someone and be like, have.

1228
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: Y'all seen this? Yes, have y'all seen this?

1229
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: Yes, this movie takes white whiteness is unstoppable, which again

1230
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: brings me to my other point, which is I think

1231
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: extreme sports in general is the ultimate and white male privilege.

1232
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like.

1233
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, real life isn't scary enough for you

1234
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: that you have to throw yourself off a fucking mountain.

1235
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: My whole thing about this movie is that it's like, why, dude,

1236
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: why go in this direction?

1237
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 2: Like the movie, the.

1238
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: Original movie, Point Break was just fine, Like it was

1239
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of California guys that like surfs and then

1240
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: like sort of jumps out of airplanes. But to center

1241
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: the entire movie around this like daredevil stunt, like free

1242
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: solo base jumping.

1243
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: You know, extreme snowboarding? Is that what that is? Extreme snowboarding?

1244
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: Everything's extreme. They're like, let's extreme. Drink coffee, let's extreme.

1245
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: Take a shit, Let's extreme. Like I can only take

1246
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: a shit if my ass is hanging off the side

1247
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: of a fucking canopy that stretched between two fucking trees.

1248
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: That are those huge trees in California. Like that's the

1249
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: only way I can take a shit.

1250
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: I gotta fly to fucking California, string a hammock up

1251
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: between two sequoias, and then just hang my ass over

1252
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: the edge.

1253
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: It's like, we just want to go outside and be

1254
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: safe and have fun.

1255
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: But then you've got a.

1256
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: Guy in a fucking four hundred dollars Patagonia outfit, being like,

1257
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm just using majet boil to make some like fair

1258
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: trade fucking espresso. Then I'm just gonna jump over this

1259
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: mountain like in one fucking fail swoop, and I'm just like,

1260
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: come on, don't ruin the experience for us.

1261
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 3: Don't ruin the experience also by making me feel like

1262
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: I am going to die if I'm not at your level.

1263
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: Because that is nice.

1264
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 3: I could be out on the Appalachian Trail right now

1265
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: with a corn cob pipe and a dream and survive

1266
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: better than some of these dudes.

1267
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: With their fucking gear. Yes, Like, calm it down, exactly.

1268
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: And to your earlier point about the Samsar character, It's

1269
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: like I would be remissive I didn't mention the woman

1270
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: the only woman in the movie basically, and she is

1271
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: no Lori Petty, forget it. She's like, if you're expecting

1272
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Lori Petty, you're not gonna get it because this.

1273
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: Character, okay.

1274
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: A at one point when she does have lines, she says,

1275
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: with a straight face, my parents died in an avalanche

1276
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: when I was nine, Okay, And I just started laughing,

1277
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: Like I just started cracking up laughing.

1278
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: We were talking about this scene because I've never laughed

1279
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: harder in my life than I did at this scene.

1280
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: And I don't think they meant for that to happen.

1281
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: First of all, if there's a round room with a

1282
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 3: fire pit in it, somebody's fucking, that's a fuck room.

1283
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: That's a fuck pit right there. When I was watching

1284
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 3: this scene, I decided something that I think I have

1285
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: to carry forth into my real life forever, which is

1286
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 3: that I can no longer stand trying to listen to

1287
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: conventionally attractive people trying to have a conversation like I

1288
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: would rather shoot tinfoil. Yes, because at one point she

1289
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: says this avalanche line about her parents, and then she's

1290
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: trying to explain to Utah how Ozaki died, and that

1291
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: body was there when Ozaki died. Yeah, and apparently he

1292
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: didn't die doing his third stunt. He died because he

1293
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: steered his ship between a pot of humpback.

1294
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: Whales and a whaling ship.

1295
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: And this is the actual fucking dialogue, these two hot

1296
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 3: as fuck people sitting in this fuck pit. Utah says

1297
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 3: ideas are powerful, and she says not as powerful as

1298
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 3: a whaling ship. And I just wanted to like, rip

1299
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: up my fucking writer's Guild card.

1300
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: And run into the sea. I've never laughed so hard

1301
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: in my life.

1302
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: Not as powerful as a whaling ship with a straight face,

1303
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: white as fuck, calling yourself Sam Sara.

1304
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's truly baffling, Like it's just baffling. And no,

1305
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: it's like the thing is is that it basically wraps

1306
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: up spoiler alert. I guess I'm gonna reveal the ending

1307
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: of the remake of Point Break, So shut it off

1308
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: if you don't want to hear this.

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Speaker 3: If you shut this podcast off right now, we are

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Speaker 3: gonna have to fucking talk every listener you listen to

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Speaker 3: the shit and so you don't have to walk this

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Speaker 3: movie on your own.

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Speaker 2: We're here for you, So come with us on this

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Speaker 2: journey if you will.

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Speaker 1: But the ending of Point Break, the remake essentially ends

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Speaker 1: like the first one, which is that body has to

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Speaker 1: die by the ocean and Johnny.

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Speaker 2: Utah has to let him. It was written in the

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Speaker 2: scriptures the Earth, the earth has to.

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Speaker 1: Swallow Body for all that he has given the earth good,

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Speaker 1: and Utah has to let him. And it's just like

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Speaker 1: so dumb. But it's like it was dumb in the

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Speaker 1: first one, but it's extra dumb in this one.

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Speaker 3: It's dumber in this one because in this one, Utah

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Speaker 3: has to take a fucking helicopter out to this.

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Speaker 2: Man in the middle of the ocean. He has the

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Speaker 2: helicopter out.

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Speaker 3: And be like, dude, it's time that you stop. And

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01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: he's like, I can't stop. He's like cool, whoo whoop.

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Speaker 2: It goes back up in the helicopter.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you're the helicopter into a fucking monsoon

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01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: to tell this idiot not to take this fucking wave.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, isn't it beautiful? Is it a beautiful?

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Speaker 2: Is it a beautiful?

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Speaker 3: And you so us like, yeah, I guess so pace

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, ha ha. With this movie again, Cocaine

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Speaker 3: and Hubris LLC were the producers. It is a unstoppable

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01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 3: whiteness machine and they did everyone involved so dirty well.

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Speaker 1: And look no shade to the first point break. It's fine,

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Speaker 1: it's entertaining. Like I've said, I enjoy watching it. I

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01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: watched it much later in life. I instantly saw why

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01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: people liked it, and I liked it too. But all

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01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying is give me that I want more Puka

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: shell necklaces and Baja sweaters. I need less rich guys

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01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: base jumping with their fucking go pros. I want the

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Keena's ponytail and the bottom glove wetsuits. I don't

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: want the mammot jackets and the fucking expensive gear like

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01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: I want the original point break. Yes, I don't need

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01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: a darker, richer, more expensive, actual death defying stunt version

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Speaker 1: of the original.

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01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 2: I just I didn't need it.

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: I don't need anybody skydiving into a hole in the ground,

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: like a body sized.

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01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 2: Hole in the ground.

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 6: They're like, you know what the Ozaki.

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01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: Two is, and you have to fucking skydive into.

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01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: A hole in the jungle.

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01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 3: Like, I don't need it. I don't give me a wave.

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01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: A simple wave will do you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I know that this is personal taste, right,

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01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: this is my personal taste. I can't stand who this

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01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: movie is ostensibly about. I cannot take this type of person,

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01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: and that is my own shit. I admit that your

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01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: mileage may vary. You may watch this remake and be like, God,

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: these guys are fucking inspirational. And I love this fucking

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01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: Gatorade commercial wisdom.

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Speaker 2: We love it. I feel inspired.

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01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: I want to go out there and fucking climb Mount Everest.

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm ready, but for me, not really my thing. And

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Speaker 1: that's all I'll say.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful.

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Speaker 3: The only other thing I'm gonna say about this movie,

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01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: which I have said a lot, I will say two

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01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: more things. I love that James Lgrow and bo Jesse

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01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: what's his face made a cameo in this film. Yes,

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01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 3: as FBI agents. They were in the original Point Break,

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01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 3: and it was very nice to see them.

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01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that I cannot stand in watching this

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 3: movie is that they changed the fucking meaning of.

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01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 6: Point break to the point where you break.

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01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 3: Everything in this movie has been dumbed down to like

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01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: its base parts like what's the point break? Well's the

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01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 3: point where you break about waves, no about like your

1385
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: spirit and stuff like not becoming a slave to the man.

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01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: What I feel like my point's gonna break? Man, I've

1387
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: had I'm having a bad day. My point is breaking

1388
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: as we speak. Man, I gotta fucking get air in

1389
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: my tires. I'm at point break, lost it. I lost it,

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01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: truly bizarre.

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Speaker 3: And when I saw that part, and I was like

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01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 3: watching these rich fucks standing around talking about like it's

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01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 3: the point where like your spirit breaks and you let

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01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: go and you know you're just not a slave to

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 3: the man anymore. Whatever the fuck they said. I was like,

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01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 3: you have never done a day of work in your

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 3: entire lifeh you are grown up toddlers, and I don't

1398
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: want to see this tantrum that you're having.

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blow up a gold mine.

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: Me I'm gonna blow up the gold mine, explode a

1401
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: bunch of rocks. The rocks create an avalanche, and then

1402
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride my motorbike away from the fucking rocks.

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01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: Like it was a Dante's Peak scenario where I was like,

1404
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 1: this guy's escaping death. He comes out just as beautiful

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01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: as he did before. He just created an avalanche of

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01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: rocks and then just rode a motor fucking bike through it.

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Speaker 2: Insane.

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Speaker 3: Ah extreme, Oh, thank you, thank you for covering this film.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we should have reversed it. You should

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01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 3: have been able to do the original. I should have

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01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 3: done this one this time because last time I did

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01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 3: the original when we did the Feet Loose, and you

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 3: did the remake. So next if we do this again,

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Speaker 3: I promise to take on the extra work of struggling

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Speaker 3: through the remake.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I appreciate that shit because I don't normally like

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01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: to be this negative about stuff.

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01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: I usually like movies. Yeah, me too. I can find.

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01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: Some joy in almost every film, but then once in

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01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: a blue moon one comes along where I'm just.

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01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: Like, Wow, I don't know, I'm speechless, I don't know

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 2: what to say.

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01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: I was excited to rewatch the original Point Break. It

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01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 3: has been actual decades since I've seen it, came out

1425
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 3: thirty years ago. I was excited to watch it. And

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01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: it's just as dumb and fun as I remembered it being. Yes,

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: and it was fine. And I truly, at multiple points

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: in this viewing of the remake, had to.

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: Stop and walk away.

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01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: Yes, at one point I stopped and did an entire

1431
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 3: load of laundry from wash to dry to fold.

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01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: And I love movies. I love movies. I don't love

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01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: dumb movies.

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01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I love movies that are are ridiculous. I love movies.

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01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 3: This one was a chore. This was a lot to

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 3: get through. Yes, So I apologize that you're the one

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01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: who had to take on the bulk of that, but

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm glad we did because now now Millie, now I

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01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 3: can tell what your point breakis.

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like I've got a spiritual awareness that

1441
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: I could only get from being clobbered by a whaling ship.

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01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm like completely open to the experience of life.

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01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 6: Oo oh lord.

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01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: What about next week? Next week's going to be great. Oh,

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01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: it just has to be because we've already done this,

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01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 3: all right.

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01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: So the movies for next week are Magnolia from nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety nine and After Hours from nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you, oh damn oh, I'm so excited for that

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: double feach. It's a hot set, all right.

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: If you want to email us, if you want to

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: give us your complex thoughts about the point Break remake,

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Speaker 1: then just do it. I Saw what you did pot

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Speaker 1: at Gmail. We'll take it whatever you got.

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Speaker 3: me some stunning dialogue. Like ideas are powerful, not as

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Speaker 3: powerful as a whaling ship.

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Speaker 6: Make a mad lib out of it.

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Speaker 3: God love you if you do after this episode, because

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Speaker 3: I have something I've been this negative in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for sticking with us. Thanks for you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're watching the movies. We love when you watch the

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Speaker 1: movies and go on the ride with us. But we

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and we love our listeners. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production. Our producers Alexis Amrisi,

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Speaker 3: Our engineers Anals Nelson. Our theme songs by Tom bry Foegel,

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Speaker 3: artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia hart Stark,

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