1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you, 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: Mike Ricksecker back with us. His latest book is called 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Travels Through Time. He's also the author of A Walk 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: in the Shadows, A Complete Guide to Shadow People. He 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: is a producer and director of the docu series The 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Shadow Dimension. Produces additional full length content on ancient wisdom, 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: lost civilizations, and the supernatural on his extensive YouTube channel, 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: and for more than six years he has hosted the 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Edge of the rabbit Hole live stream show, also host 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: the Connecting the Universe Interactive Class, operates his own book 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: publishing and video production company called Haunted Road Media. His 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: website linked up at Coast to Coast. He's got a 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: full social media announcement and we'll go through that in 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: the moment. Mike, welcome back. Have you been buddy. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty well. Thanks for having me back to 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: Georgia earlier. Appreciate it. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: Looking forward to this and this is a great book, 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: by the way, Travels through Time Time. 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. I definitely appreciate that as well. This is 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: this has definitely been a Passion Project. 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: What does time travel mean to you, Michael? 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Time travel to me is really a state of consciousness. 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: It's a lot more than just you know, jumping into 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: a DeLorean with a flex capacitor. Let the old Back 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: to the Future movie. This is actually, you know, we're 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: talking more interdimensional type travel here. When we're discussing time travel. 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: Do you think it's going to be possible to really 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: go back or forward in time? 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: I do, and more on the conscious level level on 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: which we will consciously be able to take ourselves to 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: another point in time. I do believe that there are 33 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: forms of time travel that are happening right now, real 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: in a real subtle way. Uh. You know, we could 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: talk about time slips and things like that throughout our 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: time here this evening. So I do believe it's absolutely possible. 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: The subtitle is inside the fourth Dimension time Travel and 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Stack the Time Theory. What is the last part, Stack the. 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: Time theory, Stack time theory. Absolutely So, this is an 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: idea that I've been torn around with for some decades. Here, 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: the idea that all time and take a place where 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: you are standing right now, everything that has happened is 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: happening and will happen are all happening concurrently, and you 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: could take each of those moments like a photograph and 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: stack them all up together, and that is your stack 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: of time. And there are some times in which a 47 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: couple of those moments will resonate at the same frequency, 48 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: and we'll get a little bit of a glimpse of 49 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: each other. Now, when I first started putting these ideas 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: together some time ago, you'll start doing some research in 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: the matter and chemical that Albert Einstein had some similar 52 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: ideas when talking about the space time continuum, blocking universe, 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: this sort of thing. And I've just kind of taken 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: it another step here when we're talking about personal resonance 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: frequency and vibration, where we're resonating at a certain level 56 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: in one of those moments within the stack, and I 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: believe that somebody who knows how to tune their frequency 58 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: correctly can be able to move up and down that stack. 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Mike, when we talk about time travel, is it conceivable 60 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: that when we have deja vous events, we're time traveling? 61 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: That is certainly a possibility with deja vu when these 62 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: sources of things come up, A lot of times people 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: will experience deja vu after some sort of dream that 64 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: they've had that. I mean, maybe they've had a dream 65 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: about a location or a certain event, and it'll be 66 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: somewhere down the road that they're actually at that location 67 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: or experiencing that event and kind of scratches the back 68 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: of their mind like, wait a minute, this is this 69 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: is familiar. I've been here before, I've done something like 70 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: this before, and it may have been from a dream 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: something that could also be from you know, like a 72 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: past life that this is, you know, some place that 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: they've been before in a past life. So when those 74 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: moments come up, the consciousness within the person at some 75 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: point had traversed to another point in time experience of that, 76 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: and then within the everyday vessel, all of a sudden 77 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: remembers that that moment has happened before. 78 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: What are time slips, Michael. 79 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: At time slips, This is kind of what I was 80 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: referring to earlier. When you have those two moments, there's 81 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: two photos within the stack that are resonating at a 82 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: bit the same frequency, and we get to see a 83 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: glimpse of one of these. Good example of this is 84 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: my good friend Andrew, a parent who grew up in 85 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: what's known as the Conjuring House farmhouse. 86 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 4: In Hairsfield, Rhode Island, at the movie The Conjuring was 87 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 4: based off of and let's say whatever you want about 88 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: all the hauntings and things like that that happened there, 89 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 4: but she'll even tell you the most significant thing that 90 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: happened there. 91 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: And they experienced things there for ten years. The most 92 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: significant thing that happened to her and the family was 93 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: there was one particular evening that her mother had woken 94 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: up and asleep, was hungry and wanted some coffee. Andrew 95 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: was helping her out. You get those things. And all 96 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: of a sudden, as Carolyn was sitting in the parlor, 97 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: she was looking into the dining room area, and all 98 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: of a sudden, morphing into existence in the dining room 99 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: was this seventeenth century family, a woman cooking over the horror, 100 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: a couple of kids running around. 101 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: They were just there, right. 102 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they just suddenly appeared. There's a couple of 103 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: gentlemen sitting at the table. It turned and looked at 104 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: Carolyn as if she was the ghost. And one gentleman 105 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: said to the other way, you look at that looking 106 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: at Carolyn so and then the moment dissipated away. But 107 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: this here is a type of a time slip, in 108 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: which Carolyn could see a moment in the past, but 109 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: the past was able to see a moment in the 110 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: future as well. 111 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: Now doppelgangers, aren't they supposed to be duplicates of ourselves? 112 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Yes, these are duplicates of ourselves, but I think they 113 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: kind of get a little misconstrued. We were down the whole, 114 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: you know, evil twin route. You know sometimes people go 115 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 3: down the whole how we would look alike? 116 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: Thing? 117 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: But really, you have some fascinating stories here throughout history. 118 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: The one I like them point to, and there are several. 119 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: One I like to point to is the famous poet Gutta. Now, 120 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: one day he's headed down the road toward Josepheims Is 121 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: in Germany, and on the side of the road he 122 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: sees walking this man in this really interesting gold trimmed 123 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: gray suit, and he's looking at this gentleman, admiring this suit. 124 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the gentleman disappears right in front 125 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: of him. Wow, that's really bizarre. Years later, he's walking 126 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: down that same road in the opposite direction. He gets 127 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: around to that same spot, looks down and he realizes, oh, 128 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm wearing that gold trimmed gray suit. I'm 129 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: the man that I saw disappear. So what happened was 130 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: is he had actually had an interaction with himself as 131 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: almost like a type of time slip like we were 132 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: talking about before, where he had his consciousness had crossed 133 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: that same location tuned into the same frequency between those 134 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: two different moments in time. 135 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: Is it a parallel universe, Mike. 136 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: Parallel universes? You know, this is interesting. This is something 137 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: that's actually come up quite a bit within our scientific 138 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: community here down in Antarctica. You have the ice cube project. 139 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: You need a project, and the results that have been 140 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: coming back from these neutrinos down at the South Pole 141 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: has been acting in a very bizarre fashion, basically the 142 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: reverse of the way they're supposed to be working. And 143 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: you've had scientists coming forward saying we have a parallel 144 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: universe running in reverse time. And what's funny to me 145 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: is when this notion was first suggested some years back, 146 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: point out some more tabloid as type of journals and 147 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: the mainstream traditionalists we're kind of laughing it off, But 148 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: this was actually came out now in a peer reviewed 149 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: scientific paper earlier this year. This is a legitimate study 150 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: in which say, parallel universe running in a reverse time, 151 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: which then gets one scratching their head. Okay, what would 152 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: something like that look like? A universe running a reverse time? 153 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: And I've taken this looking at our ancient symbolism, I 154 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: think this is symbolized within the Ora Boros, the snaked 155 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: in its one tail, which is a symbol of constant 156 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: renewal and recycle. And if you look at the version 157 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: by Theodora's Pelecanos from the fourteen hundreds, which is actually 158 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: a copy of the Alchemicals track from the early three 159 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: hundred a d Era, and you see duality that is 160 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: shown within there. So these are the two universes. And 161 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: when that moment where the snake eats its own tail, 162 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: this is the moment of those two universes coming together 163 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: hours in the one running in reverse. And this is 164 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: actually a symbol of the Big Bang, the moment of creation. 165 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: And so then the question is you know what was 166 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: before the universe, Well, the universe was, and the universe 167 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: will be after us too. It's just going to be 168 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: constructed a little bit differently as those elements. Basically, you 169 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: have the explosion of the Big Bang, the universe expands, 170 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 3: then contracts again into another big bang. 171 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: We're talking with Mike Ricksecker, whose latest book is called 172 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: Travels through Time. He's also got another one called A 173 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: Walk in the Shadows. We'll talk to a little about 174 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: that later on in the program as well. He's on 175 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: full sol social media. And you've got a number of 176 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: websites too, Mike, don't you. I do. 177 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Chavli mentioned dot com that's the website for the docuseries, 178 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: and then connect the Universe Portal dot com that is 179 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: for my online learning portal. 180 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: Is it conceivable that time travelers from the future one 181 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: hundred years, one thousand years have come back here to 182 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: where we are now. 183 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is certainly conceivable, And I find it fascinating 184 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: when we look at some of the extraterrestrial site and 185 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: some of these UAPs, and this suggestion has been thrown 186 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: out there that some of these are not extraterrestrial, that 187 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: some of these may actually be ourselves from the future. 188 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: And you know, that's it's very conceivable that these could 189 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: be travelers from the future that you know, that are 190 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: interacting with us. Perhaps there is a technology that they've 191 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 3: lost something that they need to learn from this time 192 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: frame that they need to take back with them to 193 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: the future. 194 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Why come back to the year two thousand, go back 195 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: all the way to the beginning right right. 196 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: Well, and they could be doing that too. When we 197 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: look at people have experienced something called the Mandela effects 198 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: from time to time. 199 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: That's a weird feeling, isn't it. 200 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: It really is. And yeah, there's some fun ones that 201 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: people point out where we've have a different recollection of 202 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: branding on a you know, a package of cereal or 203 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: something like that, and that's kind of fun. But there 204 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: are some more legitimate accounts of this type of effect 205 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: events around the world that many people from all over 206 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: the globe will point to no connection with each other 207 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: and say, no, that was remembered a different way, and 208 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: they're all really you know, quote unquote misremembering it. They're 209 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: all misremembering it the same way. So there's something there. 210 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: There's something in our past has been changed and the 211 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: number of people are remembering whatever that was prior to 212 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 3: the change. 213 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: They explained Michael the Mandela effect to people. 214 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, that's really what we were just kind of 215 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: talking about here. But this really got coined when Nelson Mandela. 216 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: It passed away here about ten years ago, and there 217 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: are many many people who had had a memory of 218 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: him passing away when he was in prison in the 219 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: nineteen eighties. And this is why it became dub the 220 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: Mandela effect because of all these people that had remembered 221 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: this so differently. And this is a very strange effect. Again, 222 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: it's not that necessarily intentionally a time traveler is going 223 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: back in time to change the specific event that you 224 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: are remembering differently. They could be going back in time 225 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: or interacting with something else, and the repercussions from that 226 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: result in this new what you would call a false memory. 227 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: Why is it that so many people have these false 228 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: memories during the Mandela effect. 229 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: Some people are able to retain those memories, others the 230 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: change takes hold. I think it's you know, people who 231 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: are a little bit more in tune too to the universe. 232 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: We could talk about higher vibrational level of that sort 233 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: of thing, but I think what it is is, you know, 234 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: people whose consciousness is a little bit more aware of 235 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: changes to the nature of the universe, are more in 236 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: tune to those changes, are able to maintain some of 237 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: those memories. Before the time change happens. 238 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: Do you remember that original movie called The Time Machine. 239 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: I am familiar with it, but I do not remember 240 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: a whole lot about it. 241 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: One of the classics. You've got to rent it if 242 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: you can find it. 243 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I will, I certainly will a lot 244 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: of you know, the movie that influenced me a lot 245 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: with this particular work was Somewhere in Time with Christopher 246 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: Reeven James, and that was Yes, absolutely, that one really 247 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: touched me when I was a kid. 248 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: And great music too, oh yes. 249 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the soundtrack by John Barry is amazing. But the 250 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: idea that he could will his consciousness just by convincing 251 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: himself that he was in the year nineteen twelve to 252 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: will his consciousness back to another point in time, I 253 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: believe is really more of how time travel would work, 254 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: rather than getting in a machine. You know, theoretical physics 255 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: tells us that, well, if we got near a black hole, 256 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: you know, time would work differently. Well, we're not getting 257 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: near a black hole anytime soon. But what we do 258 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: have is ourselves, our own consciousness, and I believe that 259 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: if we can train our consciousness to be able to 260 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: tune into a different frequency, a different moment in that 261 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: stack of time that we were talking about earlier than 262 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: we could conceivably will our consciousness to that other point 263 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: in time and be able to experience it. 264 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: Mike, have you ever seen that picture? It's a black 265 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: and white photo taken in the eighteen hundreds, when they 266 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: have the ability to take those pictures of a guy 267 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: in a mixed crowd with what looks like a cell 268 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: phone to his ear. It's the most bizarre thing you'll 269 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: ever see. You ever see that? 270 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some interesting out of place photographs like that. 271 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: I do cover a couple of those within the book, 272 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: and you know those are those photographs are pretty fun. 273 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: Some of them have some some logical explanations to it, 274 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: but other ones are really head scratches like that and 275 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: don't really make a lot of sense. And even the 276 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: ones that you know, some people are able to kind 277 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 3: of excuse away, that's really kind of stretching it. So, Yeah, 278 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: we could actually have some of these time travelers on 279 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: film in a photograph from another point in time. 280 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: How many of them? Uss do you think there could 281 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 2: be in the future? 282 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, the idea of multiple versions of us 283 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: running around, it's certainly conceivable. You could that could also 284 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: be part of the multiverse. You could have versions of 285 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: us from other universes running around. Yeah. You know, when 286 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: it comes to this realm of research, you can put 287 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 3: a lot of these different possibilities on the table and 288 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: make a case for any of them. 289 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every week night 290 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: at one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to 291 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: coastam dot com for more