1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, this is Mark Kenyon of Wired to Hunt 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: and you're listening to the third episode of our bonus 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: mini series Rut Radio. And with me today is Wired 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Hunt contributor Spencer new Heart and Spencer for those who 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: maybe didn't catch the first two episodes, can you give 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: us a cliff notes version of what we're going to 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: be doing here today this podcast? So this time you're 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: just dying to hear reports from other hunters, whether it 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: comes through Facebook posts or text messages or what have you, 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: and this podcast is going to be doing just that. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: So I will talk to guys from across White Tail 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Nation to get an idea about the deer activity in 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: their neck of the woods, but more specifically the buck activity. 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: And so I think we as hunters can then use 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: that information to confirm or deny what we're seeing and 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: help us make better decisions, like, you know, if we're 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna be hunting a morning or an evening, what stand 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna be in, you know, if we're gonna be 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: calling that hunt. Basically, just how aggressive we should be 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: based on what others are seeing and what they think 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: the rut activity has been lately, and hopefully in each 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: episode with the diverse area and diverse group of hunters 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: that we talked to, will uncover some information that's relevant 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: and useful to you. Perfect, Yes, so, especially this time 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: of year with the rut, you know, especially right now 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: about to really take off. As you know, things change 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: so quickly every day, let alone every week. So so yeah, 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I think so far we've been getting really good feedback 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: on this, and I'm excited to hear what's on tap 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: for this week's show. But I guess, first, Spencer, how 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: how are things been looking for you? What's your rut 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: reports so far? So what I've been seeing is a 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: lot of one and a half and two and a 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: half year old bucks out you know, chasing those around. 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: But those bigger bucks for me still at least you know, 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: have their wits about them. And we're probably still a 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: week away from you know, all the deer losing their 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: mind and the rut really kicking off. And it kind 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: of agrees with what we heard this week. However, there's 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: still tons of big deer hit in the ground. You 41 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: can't open up any social media without seeing, you know, 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: somebody holding antler in their hand. And but that's late 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: October for you. If you've got a buck, you know, 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: on a pretty good pattern. This would be an amazing 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: time year to catch him in daylight. If not, if 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: you're waiting for random dear to show up, I think 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: we're still a little bit away from, you know, that 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: bit of the rut. Yeah, as as of right now, 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: we are on the eve of November when we're actually talking, 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: and gosh, that's gonna be. It's gonna be a beautiful day. 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Sweet November is here. So i gotta say, what I've 52 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: been seeing isn't two different than what you just mentioned 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: to Um. You know, I have seen my buck that 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm after here in Michigan holy Field two more times 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: kind of cruising, and um, I did see a three 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: and a half reel chasing last night. But otherwise it's 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: kind of slowed down a little bit from what it 58 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: was last week for whatever reason, Like we talked about, 59 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: I kind of hit a pocket of great activity, but 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: kind of tapered back down here these last two days. 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: So I'm excited for the coming days. Hopefully well get 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: some coal or weather and that will get him get 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: him moving again. Yeah, you know, everybody said the deer 64 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: activity is is pretty good right now, but they all 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: agree that it's only going to get better. Um and 66 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: at this point a cold front would just be gravy. Yeah. Interesting. 67 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Well that said, then I guess who who are we 68 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: talking to and what states are recovering today? Well, we 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: start off in southern Oklahoma with Clay Forest of Stewart 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: Ranch Outfitters, and then we have Tony Peterson who joined 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: us a couple weeks ago from bow Hunter Magazine and 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: he's covering Minnesota and Wisconsin. And then we have Jason 73 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Reid of Pushing the Wild Limits in New York. And 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: then we have Clinton Fawcett in Illinois with bow Hunter 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Die and then we end with another familiar voice of 76 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Josh Honeycut of real tree dot Com in Kentucky. Excellent. Well, 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what they have to say and 78 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: is there anything else we need to cover before we 79 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: just get right into these interviews? Uh No, I'm excited 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: for you guys here this week's report. So I think 81 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: we higged the first one in Oklahoma. All right, well, 82 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: let's get to it and until next week, Spencer, good 83 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: luck hunting you two and happy November. Same to you. 84 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: What quickly before we get to our first update as 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: all Wired Hunt podcasts are, This episode is brought to 86 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: you by sit Good Gear. If you'd like to learn 87 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: more about sit GA Gears technical hunting apparel, you can 88 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 1: visit sit ga gear dot com. And now onto the show, alright, 89 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: and joining us on the line first is Clay Forest 90 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: of Stewart Ranch Outfitters Stewart Ranches in southern Oklahoma and 91 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Clay as a manager there, so he's got tons of 92 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: insight on what's going on in that area. And Clay, 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: what would you say on a scale of one to ten, 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: the bucket activity has been there lately? Uh? Scale one 95 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: of ten as far as buck activities, probably from a 96 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: rut standpoint, is probably like a tour or three at 97 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: this point of something you're right now and so you're 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: basing that off of sightings or what your clients are 99 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: telling you or Chel came activity. What do you see 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: in there? Um? That's based off moore of decidings, uh, 101 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: glassing and that sort of thing getting around as far 102 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: to be myself and my guys, and then also from 103 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: clients being in the sand the last two and a 104 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: half weeks, sure, and what would you say is causing 105 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: it to be a two or three right now. And 106 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: would you say that's typical for this time of year 107 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: to have such a lack of buck activity. Uh, No, sir, 108 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: definitely not typical at all. Uh, this time year going 109 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: into the first October, we probably are excusing me first 110 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: of November, we we should be probably more like a 111 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: six or seven a lot of pre rut type of actions. 112 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: We're experiencing some abnormally high temperatures right now in southern Oklahoma. 113 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Just for example, today it's supposed to be a high night. Um, 114 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: and so I really think that's shutting down a lot 115 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: of what we should be seeing right now as far 116 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: as a pre rut activity is just I think due 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: to a weather weather situation when it's as hot as 118 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: it is right now. What is then your strategy for 119 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: forgetting them at your buck on the ground? Is there 120 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: a good way to go about doing it? Do you 121 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: get closer to their beds? Do you focus on water, 122 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: certain food source? You know? Like, what have you been 123 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: doing this last week or so? Uh, We've just kind 124 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: of been concentrating on on food sources. We've really just 125 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuck to what our early season tactics are. 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: We're really just mainly hunting food horses right now, and 127 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: for us that's that's feeders or we've got to winter 128 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: wheats in this area. So we're hunting a lot of 129 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: travel areas going into uh their main foods horse right now, 130 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: which is is winter wheat. Um. So really just kind 131 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: of sticking to our early season, early season tactics. We 132 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: haven't really switched gears to the rut type tactic or 133 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: anything to that nature. So was that heat wave killed 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: some typical deer sign that you would be seeing right now, 135 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe some rubs and scrapes. Um, Honestly, I don't think so. 136 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're really starting to see the rub 137 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and scrape activity pick up. I just don't And this 138 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: is just my opinion. There's no scientific anything behind it. 139 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: It's just I think it's so hot, they're just not 140 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: really wanting to push yet. Some of the younger deer 141 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: our nose and does around it feeders. But just last 142 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: week I watched eight and a half year old dear 143 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: to look at the dough and put his head right 144 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: back down at a right back down to what he 145 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: was eating. So I had no attention to her whatsoever. Um. 146 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: So I really think it's just the heat. I mean 147 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: they they act rut or their body I think wants 148 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: to rut, but they just aren't doing it. I mean 149 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: the maturityer that we're getting on the ground there. Their 150 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: tarsos are black and their next sharting to swell, and 151 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: you know it's just, uh, it's just hot. And I 152 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: think that's what's causing the black activity from a from 153 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: a rut standpoint, right. And so then going forward in 154 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the next ten days or so, what do you think 155 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: the buck ACTV is gonna be down there on a 156 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten. Uh, I'm gonna say maybe 157 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: push it till five or a six are extended forecast, 158 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of relief. I think by about 159 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Wednesday or Thursday, we're supposed to the midst in seventies 160 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: or so, but still not normal for what uh first 161 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: of November should be down here. So hopefully kicks up 162 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: a couple of points, but I still wouldn't put it 163 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 1: in the in the high zone. Maybe get it towards 164 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: the middle five or six range. Sure, well, looking at 165 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: your Facebook page, I I know you guys will get 166 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: it done either way down there. If it's uh, if 167 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: it's a two or three or if it's a five 168 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: or six. So I'll be following along there. Stewart Ranch Outfitters, 169 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: thanks for your time, yes, sir, Thank you, Spencer and 170 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: joining us on the phone. Next is bow Hunter magazine 171 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: gear editor Tony Peterson, and Tony has been hunting his 172 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: home state of Minnesota lately, and he also did some 173 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: hunting in Wisconsin, where he's punched two tags. Tony, on 174 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, what would you say 175 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: the buck activity has been lately in that area? Oh, 176 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: I would say at eight point seven five. Well that 177 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: is a good number. So tell us what you're basing 178 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: that off of. Um, just you know, a lot of activity. 179 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's been hot, and uh, it's still been 180 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: it's still been going really strong. I mean, I don't 181 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen a buck chasing quite as 182 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: hard as the one I killed in Minnesota on Thursday. 183 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: So it's it's been going good. And so to to 184 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: get yourself in position to kill that buck was in 185 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: the morning, said meeting, said were you close to his bedding? 186 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: Were you hunting food? What were you doing there? Um? 187 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: It was a morning, said I was hunting close to 188 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: where that buck and some other ones lived. But I 189 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: also knew the reason I sat where I did is 190 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: because there's just a lot of doughs living in that 191 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: little valley that I was in, So I knew there 192 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: was a decent chance of dough would drag a buck through. 193 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: And that's that's just what happened. And still for other 194 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: guys hunting kind of in that region, do you think 195 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: this is about the most aggressive you should be right 196 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: now or should you still show maybe a little bit 197 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: of patients with your your best stands? Um? You know 198 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: it depends here in Minnesota, our our firearms season open Saturday. 199 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: So I get real aggressive this week because it's our 200 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: last chance for gun huners. You know, if you're in 201 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: a state like Iowa or Nebraska somewhere maybe where the 202 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: gun season opened a little bit later, you could play 203 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: a little bit safe. But what I'm seeing now, I wouldn't. 204 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: I'd get after it. And so what about deer sign 205 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: in the areas that you've been hunting. Have you been 206 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of scrapes and rubs and do you 207 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: think they're still active? Oh? Yeah, you know, the scrape 208 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: thing will dry up a little bit. But I had 209 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: a camera over a scrape in Minnesota up until the 210 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: day I killed that buck, and the deer were visiting 211 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: that scrape every day bucks and does um and just 212 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, rubs showed up all over the woods, so 213 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: it's they're they're laying down sign And so what about 214 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: food sources this time of year? Do you have some 215 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: agriculture where harvest has taken place? Are you hunting some 216 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: pretty dense woods? Um? You know, I killed a buck 217 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin and the Big north Woods last week that 218 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: was just feeding on brows and I ended up calling 219 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: him in. But the deer that I'm moniting in Minnesota, 220 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: you know, the acorn crop was was down quite a 221 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: bit this year, so they're hitting the chopped corn fields 222 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: pretty hard to pickcorn fields and uh, you know pick 223 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: bean fields and alfalfa. So that's that's been an egg 224 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: thing for me. And so you just talked about the 225 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: calling there, and you know, what kind of techniques are 226 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: you using this time of year with grunting or rattling? 227 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: Um I snort weeds that buck in. I don't do 228 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: a lot of calling um I Generally I kind of 229 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: like to say let things happen on their own. But 230 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: that buck I was sitting over a creek, so I 231 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: couldn't hear him coming, and he was already past me 232 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: by the time I saw him. And so he grunted 233 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: at him a few times, and he wouldn't pay any 234 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: attention to a grunt call. And then when I started 235 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: snort weeds and he started getting ticked off, and he 236 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: came in and rubbing his antlers and raking branches, and um, 237 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: he was fired up. And I think he was a 238 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: fighter anyway, because he had a messed up I and 239 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: he had a lot of puss around one of his eyes, 240 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: so I think he caught a tie in there too. 241 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: But for me mostly it's yeah, I like a snort 242 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: weed a lot. And and so with those two haunts 243 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: where you you punched EAGs, do you think the weather 244 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: was helping you it all then? Or do you think 245 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: that still has no in a factor this season. I 246 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: don't think the weather helped me on either one a 247 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: whole lot. You know, it's been warm and uh the 248 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: buck in Minnesota, it was really windy already by the 249 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: time the sun sun was up. Um, So you know 250 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: the factors that that a lot of people think you 251 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: hurt deer movements such as heat and wind. I dealt 252 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: with both of them and it didn't matter. You know, 253 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: the rut Trump's everything right now, I think a sure. 254 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: And so what phases of the route would you say? 255 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: We're in a pretty rod, are we seeking and chasing? 256 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: What do you think is going on in your area? 257 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: We're in the pre roud. You know they're they're seeking 258 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: and chasing hard um. You know, they're definitely they're definitely 259 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: outlooking for dose um. And I think, you know, I 260 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: can't prove this, but there are a lot of big 261 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: bucks hitting the ground right now. And I think what 262 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: it might have to do with is that some of 263 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: those natural foods that were used to having and kind 264 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: of spreading out the deer, like the acorns, that they're 265 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: they're not They're not drawing the deer because they're not there. 266 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: So I think more of the does are concentrated on 267 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: the on the fields and some of the food sources. 268 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: And it just seems like the running activity is going 269 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: really good for this time of year. And so going 270 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: forward in the next ten days or so, do you 271 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: think we're going to improve on that eight point seven 272 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: five that you gave me, or do you think we'll 273 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: get a lot of nurse. No, I think we'll get better. 274 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still I just checked the ten day 275 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: forecast and it's gonna stay hot. But it doesn't matter 276 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: once you start getting into the fifth, sixth, seventh of November, 277 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: it's the same thing every year. It's that's when to 278 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: me that it just bust wide open. And so I 279 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's only going to get better. 280 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Right well, being in your neighboring status South Dakota, I'm 281 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: really excited to hear then. I can't wait to get 282 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: out this week. So awesome, Well, good luck, all right, 283 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: Thanks Tony, Yeah, thank you. And joining us on the 284 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: line now is Jason Read, an outdoor writer of Pushing 285 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: the Wild Limits. Jason in New York, what would you 286 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: say the bucket activity has been there on a scale 287 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: of one to ten? Uh, let's say right now it's 288 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: totally about a fives between the daylight and nighttime activity. 289 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: And so I know you haunt a lot of different 290 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: areas in New York, and would you say that five 291 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: is pretty consistent for for all the places that you've 292 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: been so far, just at this time of the month. Uh, 293 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: And where we are, I think they are starting to 294 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: pick up more and more. We're getting more, We're finally 295 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: getting some we're finally getting some daylight photos of our 296 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: of our target box. And so I know you haunt 297 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: like three different areas. Would you explain what the differences 298 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: are there and you know what you see for activity 299 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: level wise? Yeah, so the person to the spot that 300 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: I hunt is up near Lake Ontario. That's very reminiscent 301 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: of you know, the Midwest by agriculture, really great soils, 302 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: so the genetics and nutrition are all there. Um we're 303 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: seeing I was seeing last week. I saw dose um 304 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: really running in circles in the woods with their tails 305 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: upspread and they're trying to start to spread their scent around. 306 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: I've been starting to see more um between my between 307 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: the central part of the state and the Lake Shore. 308 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Have been seeing button bucks and yearland does on their own, 309 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: which is kind of indicative of the mamma does pushing 310 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: them out, getting ready to do get breads as far 311 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: as the buck activity goes. Are starting to seeing upstick 312 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: and HI really seeing the really the peak of scraping 313 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: at this point in both locations. And so you said 314 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: the scraping is really picking up right now, would you 315 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: say a lot of that has been being done at night. Yeah, 316 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the photos that have scraping or 317 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: at night. Um any any of my buddies have been 318 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: sending photos, and it's mostly at night at this point, 319 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: although on the we did have our number one buck 320 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Texas there's a really like plus inch wide ten point 321 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: show up at one o'clock in the afternoon to hit 322 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: a mock scrape. Like I said, mostly at night, with 323 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: the exception of of the big guy. Sure stand wise 324 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: right now, how aggressive are you with with your sits? 325 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Are you getting pretty close to betting right now? Or 326 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: are you focusing on our areas well? Part of the 327 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: thing is with with where I can hunt. The side 328 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: A couple of places, different places I can hunt, but 329 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: for the most part I really don't have all that 330 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: great access to food, which is kind of interesting. Um 331 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: one spot had some good mass crop. But for the 332 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: most part I am hunting generally hunting transition zones and 333 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: um closer to betting areas. So right now I'm starting 334 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: to get because of because of the time of the year, 335 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: seeing the uptaket and buck activity, I'm starting to push 336 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: in a little bit closer to the betting areas just 337 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: because they know that they're going to be cruising in 338 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: and out of there checking for those. Um. So just 339 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, obviously being as careful as I can, but 340 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm starting to get a little more aggressive as the 341 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: as the calendar take spy and I only have nineteen 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: days left in archery until rifle starts. So you gotta 343 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: make the move now before rifle starts. Because once rifle 344 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: starts in New York, do you gotta hunt them like rabbits. 345 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: And it's a different ball game. Sure, it's so going 346 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: forward in these next ten days or so, what do 347 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 1: you think the bucket activity is going to be on 348 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. I think it's gonna 349 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: be up towards eight. Uh. For us here in New York, 350 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: we got the weather is finally going to stabilize, and 351 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: so hopefully the pressure, the barametric pressure is gonna stabilize. 352 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: And I think that because we are now what it 353 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: would be like two or three weeks, I think from 354 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: the full moon, um, and the fact that I've already 355 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: seen dose you know, I've already seen bucks chasing those 356 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: a little bit, um, I think the next ten days 357 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: is just gonna explode because of the weather and the 358 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: timing with the moon phase there. Well, that's exciting to 359 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: hear Jason and they. I hope you can get it 360 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: done before gun season opens up there, Thanks man, I 361 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: appreciate it alright. And joining us on the phone. Next 362 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: is Clinton Fawcett, a bow hunter die now, Clinton, Illinois. 363 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: What would you say to the buck activity has been 364 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: there on a scale of one to ten. Well, for 365 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: the past week, um, we have been seeing several bucks. 366 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: I would say the buck activity has been a seven. 367 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: And so is is that what you'd expect for the 368 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: end of October? Yeah? Yeah, Normally I really like our 369 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: Frank and I we really like hunting the last week 370 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: of October. Um, we have usually on a normal year, 371 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: we have a lot of success and we have been seeing, um, 372 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: several of our shooter bucks. Now, the overall dear activity 373 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: has been down with this warm weather. Um, but we 374 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: have been seeing, uh, several nice bucks that we've been hunting. 375 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: And so those shooter bucks that you've been targeting, what 376 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: are they doing when you've had encounters that they're hitting scrapes, 377 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: are they chasing? Does are they just you know, bed 378 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: to food? What's going on there? Well, the first two 379 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: big bucks that we encountered. Frankie was by himself the 380 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: first day and he grunted one in and called him 381 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: and that would have been last Wednesday, for no excuse me, 382 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: would have been on Thursday. And uh, the big eight 383 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: point that I was after I saw on Wednesday night 384 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: and I had actually rattled and he come in last 385 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: night we saw and it was just out cruising. The 386 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: last three days, it seems like they've been pretty unresponsive 387 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: and they're just kind of getting their nose into the 388 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: wind and just heading out searching. Um. My pictures have 389 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: been down the last three days on scrapes. It seems 390 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: like they kind of transitioned over to just you know, 391 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: putting the nose in the wind and kind of trying 392 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: to look for that first dough saran. So what are 393 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: your calling textique techniques right now? With the rattling and 394 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: the grunting. Are you doing any blind calling at this 395 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: point or not? Actually both the deer we called in 396 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: UM was blind calling UM a lot of times. If 397 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: if we're out and it's getting later and nothing's been happening, 398 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: what we'll try to blind call at least once UM, 399 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: not not multiple times. On the same farm. If we're 400 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: hunting the same setups, we try to eliminate. You know, 401 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: we don't call every time we go in, but if 402 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: we're bouncing around there a couple of different farms, we 403 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: will um. But the deer last night we saw him. 404 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: He was seven yards away. I've been trying to kill 405 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: the deer since the first October. We've been on in 406 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: and see him several times. But he come out and 407 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: I could tell pretty much by his body posture that 408 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: we weren't gonna getting done with him. But he had 409 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: his nose into the wind. He was kind of on 410 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: cruise mode. And I grunted at him, immediately stopped and 411 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: looked um and then we let him he When he 412 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: walked off, we did try to sport we's at him, 413 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: and he did posture up a little bit, but he 414 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: looked for probably a minute or two, and then he 415 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: just continued about his way and we let him get oh, 416 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: probably a hundred fifty yards away. In the CRP. We 417 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: could just see his horns and we rattled at him 418 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: and he turned and came just a little bit and 419 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: then continuing on. Now, the setup wasn't perfect for him 420 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: to come in. You know, with those big beer when 421 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: they get the wind where they can't get in their 422 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: face or at least get a good cross wind to 423 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: come back to that rattling or calling. You know, a 424 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: lot of times it's pretty tough to kill a big 425 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: mature beer that way. But you know sometimes they'll come 426 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: blazon in there. But right now because he they're just 427 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: not in that mode, at least not around here, right 428 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: And so you said, overall the deer activity has been down, 429 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: but you've encountered a number of mature bucks. Why do 430 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: you think that that you've and encountering these mature books 431 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: if if the deer activities is at a lull right now, well, 432 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: we Frank and I run a lot of cameras all 433 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: the time, um, so we know where where the deer 434 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: at most of the time, or especially right now, they're 435 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: still on like a historical based pattern where they were 436 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: last year mostly and once those deer move in there 437 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: and you know, we look at that past day so 438 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: we can get in there on them. But also you know, 439 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: the last week October is a great time to kill 440 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: a big deer because he's he's out looking, you know. 441 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: But to tell you the truth, the best pictures I 442 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: had so far this year was from the nineties. I 443 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: had lots and lots of deer um big bucks on 444 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: their feet in the daylight. And honestly think it's you know, 445 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: we got a lot of cameras in the core area, 446 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, you just catch them there 447 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: at the end on a little cold front or or 448 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: maybe the wind switching direction. The next day, they get 449 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: up and get moving. So I think that's always been 450 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: successful just because we're you know, we're very close to 451 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: where they're betting um and where they're coming to, right, 452 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: And so if you're getting all this good movement now 453 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: at the end of October, do you worry it all 454 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: that come there? These deer might disappear and head off 455 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: to the neighbors that they're cruising so much. Or is 456 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: that not a few of yours? Oh? No? I hate 457 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: I hate hunting in November. I absolutely hate it. I 458 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: wish I could just hunt the last two weeks of 459 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: October and then maybe hunting late season. Um. I am 460 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: a I am a patternal deer hunter. I don't like 461 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: hunting deer. I can't pattern and stuff that gets out 462 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: of my control. Even with it work and stuff in life, 463 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm not very good at it. So November just does not. 464 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: I just don't like it. Absolutely. And what about going 465 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: forward for this next week or so, what do you 466 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: think the buck activity is going to be then? On 467 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: the scale of one to ten, um, truthfully, with it 468 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: today's Monday, I'm not looking for a whole lot except 469 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: for on Thursday. I would say if it gets above 470 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: a five or six, I'd be surprised. Um, the temperatures 471 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: here in central Illinois aren't supposed to do much. You know, 472 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: it's really warm today in tomorrow. We're supposed to get 473 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: an inch and a half of rain on Wednesday, So 474 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: I think Thursday morning could be pretty good because they 475 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna have high pressure in the winds will get out 476 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: of the north. So I'm thinking Thursday could be good. Um. 477 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: After that, the tempts are just supposed to mellow off. Um. 478 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: The pressure is supposed to be high on Friday and Saturday, 479 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: so you know you could catch them there. But just 480 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: in my experience, the first four or five days in 481 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: November usually aren't very good for us. UM. It's usually 482 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: you know the fifth, after the fifth, it kicks off, 483 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: but it's almost like it just gets a little flow, 484 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, right now are pictures are down. I feel 485 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: like the bucks that have been harassing the dose enough 486 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: now that they're kind of hiding, but they're not ready. 487 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Some of these big deer are definitely gonna be on 488 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: their feet kind of cruising and looking. But I don't 489 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be called responsive. I think you know 490 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a typical You better just be in 491 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. Um. But as 492 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: as far as I'm just going nuts running around, I 493 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: don't see it happening yet. I think we're a week 494 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: off from that. But I would say if a guys 495 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: in the woods on Thursday, you could see a little 496 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: spike in the in the buck movement that morning after 497 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: that rain. Right, Well, I hope those mature bucks stick 498 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: around for you and we'll continue to fall along at 499 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: bow haunts your day. Well, thanks Spens, right, I appreciate 500 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: the call, and I appreciate you guys letting me be be 501 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: on show all right and joining us on the phone. 502 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: Last is Josh Honeycutt, the deer editor with Real tree 503 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: dot Com. Now, Josh, I know you already tagged out 504 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: in Kentucky, but that hasn't kept you out of the woods. 505 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: So on a scale of one to ten, what would 506 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been there lately? Yeah, 507 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: I've been spending a little I've killed my buck tag 508 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: and filled my buck tag and Kentucky and but I 509 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: still filmed some other people in Kentucky. So I've still 510 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: been out in the woods, still been keeping eye on 511 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: trail cameras. Um. And it's been kid of slow as 512 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: far as the dayline activity, uh for the last a 513 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: few days because of this really really hot temptures you 514 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: had here in Kentucky. It's been one of the hottest 515 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: Octobers on the record. UM, So it's been pretty tough 516 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: as far as those deer moving in daylight. I'm still 517 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: moving daylight, just not very farsome feddic areas. Um. And 518 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: so I'll skill I want to seem I would probably 519 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: say it's went down a little bit since the last 520 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: time we talked the middle of October too, probably from 521 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: like a six to seven to a five or six. 522 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: It's went down a little bit, uh, just simply because 523 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: of the extreme temperatures that we've had. So you've got 524 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: bucks out moving, but not necessarily in daylight. Um, are 525 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: they moving like in the middle of the night or 526 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: before and after shooting light just as soon as the 527 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: shooting light, just as soon as as legal shooting lights over. 528 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm getting pictures of bucks. I mean, I know they're 529 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: moving in daylight. Still they're just not have they haven't 530 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: been moving as far from their beds of an afternoon 531 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: from getting a lot of pictures of bucks of a 532 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: morning in daylight because it's cooler, but as far as 533 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: afternoon sets. But they're just aren't moving as quickly of 534 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: an afternoon. So so the last week or so, the 535 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: mornings have definitely been more productive based on my camera checks, 536 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: based on the time that I've been in the woods filming, uh, 537 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: some other people hunt and uh. But as I think 538 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: that's about to change because we're gonna be moving into 539 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: the weekend. It's gonna stay warm until the end of 540 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: this week and then moving into the week Friday and Saturday. Uh, 541 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: we're supposed to cool down. They're supposed to be about 542 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: a fifteen degree temperature swing. So uh, being that with 543 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: just with the temperature swing, we're gonna have the end 544 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: of the week, paired with the fact that it's gonna 545 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: be around that, you know, the end of the first 546 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: week in November November five six, I mean between, but 547 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: just between those two factors alone, I expect to see 548 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: a big increase in daylight activity and overall activity by 549 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: the end of the week. Sure. And so those bucks 550 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: that are out moving at night, do you know what 551 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: they're doing? Are they are they laying down some sign? 552 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: Are they looking for dolls? Are they you know, getting 553 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: to their food a little earlier? What's going on there? 554 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of a transition period. We're kind of right 555 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: there on the tail end of the pre rut moving 556 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: into the rut. You know, we're not it's not full 557 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: bone right yet. I mean I've not been I've not 558 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: seen any chase and activity. It's kind of in that 559 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: seeking phase, seeking phase, the beginning of the seeking phase 560 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: of the rut. Uh, there's I haven't seen a lot 561 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: of chasing activity. They're really still in that, uh, the 562 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: period where they're laying down a lot of signs. A 563 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: lot of rubs have popped up the last um seven 564 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: to ten days, a lot of scrapes have popped up 565 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: the last five to seven days, UM. And those bucks 566 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: are laying down signed pretty hard right now. Um, I've 567 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: seen quite a few bucks. Um, new bucks that I 568 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: have not seen this year. Um just showed up within 569 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: the last seven days on camera. UM. So the deer moving, uh, 570 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: they're starting to move more that in the overall activity 571 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: has continued to increase throughout October. It's just these afternoons 572 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: because of this hot temper. This hot weather as prevented 573 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: prevented those deer from getting up as quickly as they 574 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: would of an evening. But those morning tents of men 575 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: kind of decent because there's been a lot of times 576 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: where I've had pictures of bucks um hitting camera sites. 577 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: You know, we're right there around the beginning of legal 578 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: shooting light. But I expect that I expect activity to 579 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: increase quite a bit as we moved towards the end 580 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: of this week and in the next week, because they're 581 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: supposed to stay pretty cold. It's not gonna be cold. 582 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: That's supposed to stay pretty cool from this weekend and 583 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: moving into the next week and the even the end 584 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: of next week. Yeah, so that upticking activity, what would 585 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: you say that will translate to that on a scale 586 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: of one to ten for buck movement in this next 587 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: week or so, Well, my favorite week over the whole 588 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: year hunt is next week. It's that pulled my account 589 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: calendar up here. Uh. Next this week is obviously the 590 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: week of Halloween. You know, next Saturday is gonna be 591 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: the fifth. UM. So we got next week, we got 592 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: the week of the six from the six of the twelfth, 593 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: that's my favorite week to hunt of the entire year. UM. 594 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: That is usually UM for most people. It's a little 595 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: bit different from place to place, from state to state 596 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: and from region region, but that's usually generally your best 597 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: uh buck movement. Uh. That's you're kind of that chasing period. 598 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: It's that week prior to peak breeding, uh, what people 599 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: refer to as the lockdown phase. This next not this week, 600 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: but next week. I act next to see a lot 601 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: of chasing going on, simply because of the time that it's, 602 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, the time of the year, um, what the 603 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: point of the rut that will be in, and also 604 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: because of the temperatures will have. So this week I'll 605 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: be still being Kentucky running the camera filming some guys hunt. Uh, 606 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: and then next week I'll be heading uh heading to 607 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Indiana to get my Indiana hunting license in chasing the 608 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Indiana buck up there on Public Plan because I expect 609 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty good. Well, it sounds like an 610 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: exciting next couple of weeks coming up for you, Josh, 611 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: and I look forward to watching for pictures that you 612 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: got from the Hunts. So thanks again for your time. Yeah, 613 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: thank you. And actually, like I said, I expect, I 614 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: don't know if I give you a number, but i'd 615 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: say it's gonna be between the nine at the end 616 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: next week. Well, I'll take either one of them, all right. Thanks, 617 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: thank you, and that concludes this week's episode of Wired 618 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: Haunt's Rutt Radio. Make sure you follow Wired Hunt on Facebook, Twitter, 619 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: and Instagram, and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at 620 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Spencer ner Heart. Thanks for listening, and I want to 621 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: wish everybody a happy rut.