Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2: Hey Bessie's today on the bright side. It's Wellness Wednesday, y'all,
Speaker 2: and the nobs Bord certified dermatologist, doctor Charene Idris, is
Speaker 2: here to share the best and worst ingredients for our skin,
Speaker 2: which products are worth the splurge and weather Filler is
Speaker 2: aging us. It's Wednesday, July tenth. I'm Simone Boyce.
Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright side from
Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Simone. We're talking about skincare today. I gotta
Speaker 1: know what's your regimen. Give it to me.
Speaker 2: So my regimen is largely focused around my needs, which
Speaker 2: is I have acne prone skin. I have for my
Speaker 2: entire adulthood, and so I have spent so many hours
Speaker 2: inside the dermatologist's office, Danielle. But during that process, throughout
Speaker 2: all the pain and all the pokes and prods that
Speaker 2: I've endured, I have learned so much about my skin. Ye.
Speaker 2: So my routine is very simple and straightforward. I use
Speaker 2: a very gentle cleansing jelly by a brand called Notarium,
Speaker 2: female owned sold it target very affordable, it's awesome. After that,
Speaker 2: I put on azilaic acid in the morning and at
Speaker 2: nights azuleic acid fifteen percent great to keep your skin
Speaker 2: clear and reduce any discoloration. After that, I put on
Speaker 2: an SPF which is by a brand called Zitstika. It's
Speaker 2: a noncametogenic SPF that doesn't make you break out or
Speaker 2: make your skin feel greasy. And then at nights I
Speaker 2: do wash again, which I know is controversial, and then
Speaker 2: I put on azylic acid retinol for sleep and maybe
Speaker 2: some squalen oil or some sort of moisturizer.
Speaker 1: That's so good. You really got it all buttoned up.
Speaker 2: How about you? What does your routine look like?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna front with any of this.
Speaker 1: In the morning, I wash my face with whatever face
Speaker 1: cleanser I have at the time, brand agnostic, it's whatever's there.
Speaker 1: And if I'm at a hotel, I'm happy to use
Speaker 1: the hand wash soap or the bar soap.
Speaker 2: I'll like use whatever is around. Oh my gosh, it's
Speaker 2: so drying. That strips your skin. I know, I know.
Speaker 1: And then I'll use a Keels face lotion and I
Speaker 1: use an SPF. That's the only thing I'm really consistent about.
Speaker 1: And at night, I do the same thing.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I sometimes use an under I cream if I can
Speaker 1: find one in my drawer, but I don't really have
Speaker 1: a regimen. And I've been to the dermatologist and they
Speaker 1: give me a regimen, but it's like four steps and
Speaker 1: I have random samples from them, and I know I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to do it in a certain order, and I
Speaker 1: just never totally understand what I'm doing. So here's my
Speaker 1: question for you, though, because I actually misspoke the other day.
Speaker 1: I said my great grandmother lived to one hundred and one.
Speaker 1: She lived till one hundred and three. My mom corrected me, wow,
Speaker 1: And she used like two things her whole life, and
Speaker 1: it was like Pond's face cream, which was like very
Speaker 1: of her time, and she.
Speaker 2: Had awesome skin.
Speaker 1: And part of me is like, I know there's science
Speaker 1: behind this, but does any of it actually matter, Like.
Speaker 2: Do you see a difference, Oh, my gosh, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: oh one thousand percent. I think a lot of it
Speaker 2: is the makeup of your skin, like the composition of
Speaker 2: your skin, the oil ratio on your skin, like a
Speaker 2: lot of that is really important. I think it just
Speaker 2: depends on the person. Like you can wash your face
Speaker 2: with the hotel bar soap. I cannot do that because
Speaker 2: it'll strip my skin and my skin will freak out
Speaker 2: and get irritated. But I mean, I am loving where
Speaker 2: my skin is at right now, and it's because of
Speaker 2: the active ingredients I'm using. Aslic acid is like a
Speaker 2: wonder ingredient. I had used it in the past and
Speaker 2: then I stopped using it for some reason. I rediscovered
Speaker 2: it recently. It is like a game changer. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: So yes, I believe in skincare. It can actually work.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really excited today because our guest is doctor
Speaker 1: Sharene Idris. She's a board certified dermatologist who's research backed talk.
Speaker 1: She's real as it gets, has garnered millions of followers
Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok. She's one of the Internet's favorite
Speaker 1: dermatologists and really an expert in the skin issues associated
Speaker 1: with aging. So here she is busting myths about the
Speaker 1: holy grail of skincare, which is retinal.
Speaker 3: Ren It all lies that needs to die from a
Speaker 3: forty year old board certified dermatologists who also happens to
Speaker 3: be a Rentinoll veteran.
Speaker 2: Number one.
Speaker 3: You cannot use rentin all in the summer. This should
Speaker 3: die because the earth is round and some climates are
Speaker 3: summer all year round, and everybody can use a rentinoll
Speaker 3: if they can tolerate it.
Speaker 2: I am with Doctor Idris on this one. Retinols, retinoids,
Speaker 2: give me all of them. Back in twenty eighteen, doctor
Speaker 2: Idris was so frustrated by all the skincare misinformation she
Speaker 2: saw on social media that she decided to set the
Speaker 2: record straight herself by breaking down her own nighttime skincare
Speaker 2: routine using the hashtag pillow talk derm. So that term
Speaker 2: pillow talk derm took off very quickly, and it turned
Speaker 2: into her answer follower questions about which products and procedures
Speaker 2: are worth it and which ones are just marketing. And
Speaker 2: believe me, she did not hold back well.
Speaker 1: Six years later, her skin is just as glassy as
Speaker 1: it was back then. And I know you can't see it,
Speaker 1: but either check Instagram or trust me, because I promise
Speaker 1: it is. And she has a science back skincare line
Speaker 1: available at Sephora. Doctor Idris is here with us today
Speaker 1: to talk about her hero ingredients, the truth about filler,
Speaker 1: and how to care for your skin at whatever age
Speaker 1: you're at.
Speaker 2: Doctor Idris, Welcome to the bright side.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It's brighter already
Speaker 3: with you guys here.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2: We are so excited to have you. We can't wait
Speaker 2: to get the real, real from you. But before we
Speaker 2: get started, can you tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2: What would you say is your skincare philosophy.
Speaker 3: My skincare philosophy is that it is about consistency over intensity,
Speaker 3: like you really want to be going after your skin's
Speaker 3: biggest problems and not falling into the sphere of missing
Speaker 3: out on skincare, which a lot of people have and
Speaker 3: they end up buying themselves problems along the way. Wow,
Speaker 3: they can't fit because they're stuck in this tornado of
Speaker 3: a skincare world. And so it's really about being consistent.
Speaker 3: It's not about going wrong and strong, but being consistent
Speaker 3: with what it is that is targeting your biggest problem.
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I wanted to ask you about,
Speaker 1: because while I love skincare, I feel like it has
Speaker 1: been taken over by capitalism. There was an article in
Speaker 1: the Cut that compared skincare to a psychological safety blanket,
Speaker 1: which I thought was a really great comparison. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: the internet is sort of to blame. But what do
Speaker 1: you think is behind our obsession with skin care?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the US has finally caught up
Speaker 3: to the rest of the world in the sense that
Speaker 3: they're finally trying to understand how do you skincare? Why
Speaker 3: are we using it? And that's because of the pandemic,
Speaker 3: right we were all locked up, we were not wearing makeup.
Speaker 3: I think our culture over this side of the world
Speaker 3: is pretty much like cover it up, slap on some makeup,
Speaker 3: ignore it like you know, like you never really focused
Speaker 3: on our skin as much as we did on makeup
Speaker 3: which covered it up. And over the past four years ish,
Speaker 3: the focus has shifted and we are now looking more
Speaker 3: towards how do we make our skin better because we
Speaker 3: had time to try to understand what was on the
Speaker 3: market and how it actually worked. And I don't mind
Speaker 3: going slow as long as people understand the philosophy in
Speaker 3: order to understand how to better help themselves. That to
Speaker 3: throw craft in the market just because you want to
Speaker 3: try to gain virality or you're trying to like appeal
Speaker 3: to a younger generation who could push a product or
Speaker 3: brand further, and unfortunately it's just become overloaded in that sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we live in drop culture right now, and so
Speaker 1: you want to have a drop every month, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's not necessary.
Speaker 3: It's not necessary, like everything great was once new, but
Speaker 3: not everything new is great, and you have to remind
Speaker 3: yourself that with skincare, especially like tried and Chruse or
Speaker 3: tried and Chruse for a reason. And if it really
Speaker 3: is great, then in two years it's still going to
Speaker 3: be great. So there's no need to feel like you're
Speaker 3: missing out if you don't jump on it today.
Speaker 2: Well said Well, in addition to being a dermatologist, I mean,
Speaker 2: you have this huge social media audience and you start
Speaker 2: all your videos the same way. You say, I'm a
Speaker 2: fourty year old board certified dermatologist. Why do you feel
Speaker 2: the need to start with your age in your videos.
Speaker 3: It's so funny. I started that on a whim last
Speaker 3: year when I was thirty nine, and it just kind
Speaker 3: of clicked and stuck. And it's funny because people are like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're filtered. Oh, you do a million cosmetic procedures. Oh
Speaker 3: but you're only twenty nine, Oh but oh but oh
Speaker 3: but oh but but no, there's no o butts. Like
Speaker 3: I'm as transparent as it gets. It's not like I'm
Speaker 3: a celebrity who's hiding plastic surgery that I had on
Speaker 3: my face or some kind of procedure that I've had.
Speaker 3: So I figured if I started it by just removing
Speaker 3: the veil and just stating what I am, exactly as
Speaker 3: I am, it would get rid of all of those comments.
Speaker 3: And it didn't fully get rid of the comments. But
Speaker 3: I guess it clicks and people like to hear my
Speaker 3: age now before I present myself, so I think that's
Speaker 3: going to be going on for a while. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I am a forty year old word certified dermatologist.
Speaker 2: So what is the secret behind that forty year old
Speaker 2: glass skin that I'm seeing right here?
Speaker 1: It really is glass.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Do you have an elaborate skincare
Speaker 2: routine or you have a lessons more kind of girly.
Speaker 3: Very honestly, Like my sinker line was born from my
Speaker 3: philosophy less is more. And there was a time when
Speaker 3: I had a twelve step skincare routine, and this was
Speaker 3: back in twenty nineteen after I had my son and
Speaker 3: I was literally using all these over the counterproducts to
Speaker 3: target my malasma and my discoloration because I couldn't be
Speaker 3: on prescriptions because I was breastfeeding, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 3: And so I had a twelve step skincurutine and it
Speaker 3: was completely unviable for life. It was not sustainable, it
Speaker 3: was a waste of my time. There was no way
Speaker 3: I could get through it. And I just felt like
Speaker 3: I was chasing something that I could never fully attain.
Speaker 3: And so when I would talk to my patients about
Speaker 3: having it even skin tone, I would also give them
Speaker 3: a to sep routine and their eyes would glaze over.
Speaker 3: And so when it came to starting a skincare line,
Speaker 3: I truly genuinely wanted to simplify problems with very simple solutions,
Speaker 3: and so I thought to myself, what are the ten
Speaker 3: twelve most important ingredients. I do not want to have
Speaker 3: bullshit marketing claims. I want them to be put in
Speaker 3: at levels of efficacy that have been demonstrated either by
Speaker 3: the manufacturers or through science through time, and I want
Speaker 3: to make sure that they make sense in the products
Speaker 3: that they're in. And so that's how the first three
Speaker 3: products were launched. And those are the staple of my
Speaker 3: skincure routine. I have been using them every single day
Speaker 3: since August of twenty twenty one, a year prior to launch,
Speaker 3: when I finalized the formulas, and I obviously am testing
Speaker 3: different things as we go along, but the hypercereum and
Speaker 3: the moisturizer are the two things that I use consistently
Speaker 3: every single day, twice a day. And sounds freen.
Speaker 1: What's the biggest lie that we're fed about our skin, that.
Speaker 3: We need moisture moisture moisture, like you don't need hyaluronic
Speaker 3: as I said, you don't need moisturizers every single day
Speaker 3: of the year and every single climate that you live in.
Speaker 3: I think it depends on your skin type. I think
Speaker 3: it depends on the climate that you live in, and
Speaker 3: I think it depends on your stage of life and
Speaker 3: what it is you're trying to target. But this whole
Speaker 3: idea that we need to constantly hydrate our skin, I
Speaker 3: think it's an easy sell because people know that hydration
Speaker 3: is a thing, so you don't have to convince the
Speaker 3: public of that. But the reality is over moisturizing your
Speaker 3: skin can break your skin barrier down and cause more
Speaker 3: problems down the road too. And if you live in
Speaker 3: a very humid climate and you're oily and you're more
Speaker 3: acme prone, do you really need to moisturize before you
Speaker 3: apply sunscreen? No, you don't, because the suns trens are
Speaker 3: a moisturizer skin enough. So I think that is one
Speaker 3: of the biggest lies that have been sold in perpetuity
Speaker 3: throughout the beauty industry throughout time because it's been an
Speaker 3: easy one to get your point across because people know
Speaker 3: that they want the skin to be hydrated.
Speaker 1: I actually think I always felt that, So thank you
Speaker 1: for clarifying. I've never heard that one. You debunked a
Speaker 1: good myth for me.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm excited, just the tip of the iceberg exactly.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got to hippods and take a break, but
Speaker 2: we'll be back to bust more skincare myths with doctor
Speaker 2: Serene Idris.
Speaker 1: We're back with doctor Sharene Idris, the Internet's favorite dermatologist.
Speaker 2: So, doctor Idris, earlier you mentioned that there are may
Speaker 2: be ten to twelve tried and true ingredients that we
Speaker 2: see over and over again in skincare. I want to
Speaker 2: talk about those. What are your must have hero ingredients.
Speaker 3: So remember what I said, though, target your routine based
Speaker 3: on your problem. And my biggest problem, genuinely truly is
Speaker 3: this coloration. I am Middle Eastern. Originally these to throw
Speaker 3: me in the sun when I was a kid, and
Speaker 3: I would burn to get some color because they thought
Speaker 3: it was healthy. Myth lie, do not repeat, and so
Speaker 3: the damage is done before you're twenty and so I
Speaker 3: would have sun spots coming up in my twenties and
Speaker 3: it wasn't until I had my son, my second IDF,
Speaker 3: where my malasma started to flare up and overnight I
Speaker 3: legitimately looked like the cryptkeeper. It really had an immense
Speaker 3: psychological toll on me. So for me, it's really about
Speaker 3: keeping my skin tone, even keeping that hyperpigmentation. Malasma at
Speaker 3: Bay over the counter is never going to treat malasma,
Speaker 3: but being on a routine that keeps your pigmentation suppressed
Speaker 3: will minimize how bad your malasma flares up. And I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm proof of that because I don't really
Speaker 3: use hydroquinone unless I just come back from the beach
Speaker 3: or somewhere really hot and it's flaring. So that's the
Speaker 3: long winded answer to get to the conclusion. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: glycolic and lactic together are a beautiful combination to even
Speaker 3: out your skin tone. Lactic acid is great for brightening.
Speaker 3: Glycolic also helps with anti aging, voting, collagen production. Skincare
Speaker 3: brands can never claim that because that's bordering on a drug,
Speaker 3: because it's changing the nature of your skin. But those
Speaker 3: have been tested and shown in studis, and so that
Speaker 3: is why I like to use glacolic acid mix of
Speaker 3: blactic acid. Additionally, obviously vitamin C. Everybody knows about vitamin C.
Speaker 3: It is a great ingredient to have in your repertoire,
Speaker 3: but alone it doesn't do much. And trust me, I
Speaker 3: have tried it just alone. And then reninol, as aleak acid, hydroquinone.
Speaker 3: Those are three that I usually reserve as prescriptions because
Speaker 3: a hydroquinone you can no longer get over the counter
Speaker 3: and you shouldn't be on it forever. Reninol, I really
Speaker 3: do believe you have to know the type and the
Speaker 3: percent of the retinol that you're using to know what
Speaker 3: your skin can tolerate, because you might not tolerate the strongest,
Speaker 3: but if you get a little bit of something light
Speaker 3: every day, that's better. For you and then as a
Speaker 3: lik acid, because to really see a difference with hyper pigmentation,
Speaker 3: it should be at fifteen percent and that is prescription level.
Speaker 3: You're not going to find that over the counter. Those
Speaker 3: I've kept out of the major feed line on purpose
Speaker 3: because they're going to serve you better as prescriptions.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little bit more about the
Speaker 2: effectiveness of medical grade skincare versus over the counter skincare?
Speaker 2: I mean, do over the counter products even move the needle?
Speaker 2: Should we even be buying them? Or should you put
Speaker 2: all your money into medical grade skincare.
Speaker 3: I'm going to flip that on you and ask you
Speaker 3: do medical grade products even move the needle? And should
Speaker 3: you be spending all of your money on that and
Speaker 3: not all over the counter products? Medical grade means nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm a dermatologist. Dermatology tested means nothing, right, and I
Speaker 3: have a skincare line, and I'm the first one to
Speaker 3: tell you that saying dermatologists test it doesn't mean much. Okay, great,
Speaker 3: you tested it, But then what you have to have
Speaker 3: an independent study done by a third party who's reviewing
Speaker 3: it on people who are blinded and don't know what
Speaker 3: they're using on their skin to see the result of
Speaker 3: the products that you've created. Medical grade use traditionally is
Speaker 3: basically a term that is used to describe products that
Speaker 3: are so through estheticians and providers and doctors' offices. But
Speaker 3: they're not better necessarily than what you can get over
Speaker 3: the counter. And they're going to claim that they're using
Speaker 3: higher quality ingredients. Not true. I could have claimed my
Speaker 3: brand is a medical grade brand, but I chose not
Speaker 3: to because I find it to be misleading because people
Speaker 3: are spending more money on medical grade products thinking they're
Speaker 3: getting something better. But that's not necessarily a guarantee.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about prescription versus OTC though.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's different. I am probably one of the very
Speaker 3: few who will tell you prescription is not necessarily better
Speaker 3: than over the counter. And I'm not saying this because
Speaker 3: I have skincare line. I do not have readin all
Speaker 3: in my skincare line. The reason I am saying this
Speaker 3: is because people, especially in American culture, often think we
Speaker 3: need the strongest, we need the biggest, We need the largest,
Speaker 3: we need, more is better, Stronger isn't necessarily better. When
Speaker 3: it comes to this vitamin A class of redinoids. When
Speaker 3: it's too strong. It can be irritating, and if it's irritating,
Speaker 3: you're only going to damage your skin in the long run.
Speaker 3: I would much rather you be consistent with something less irritating,
Speaker 3: using it and tolerating it every night of the week
Speaker 3: without any irritation, without any inflammation, versus using something extremely strong,
Speaker 3: which is a prescription, and only able to use it
Speaker 3: once every week or once every two weeks because your
Speaker 3: skin breaks out or flakes in the process. And so
Speaker 3: there is a philosophical approach here. Obviously, the prescription is
Speaker 3: going to be more active and ready to go to
Speaker 3: work right away, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's
Speaker 3: better for you if your skin cannot tolerate it.
Speaker 1: So to this point, I have another debunking question for you,
Speaker 1: because for ten years all I heard was retinal, retinal, retinal,
Speaker 1: And now all the women on the internet are telling
Speaker 1: me that retinal is going to thin my skin. So
Speaker 1: what's the verdict here.
Speaker 3: It's not going to thin your skin. It is not
Speaker 3: going to thin your skin. There was one prominent person,
Speaker 3: I think physician or something not. There was one person
Speaker 3: who was like pushing that myth forward, and it is
Speaker 3: not true. Redinol has been shown to truly increase collagen
Speaker 3: production in your skin by stimulating your fibroblasts. It does
Speaker 3: expedite cellular turnover of the top layer of your skin,
Speaker 3: but it is not thinning your skin because it is
Speaker 3: increasing the density of collagen beneath the servants within the dermis,
Speaker 3: and so over time, that is how we see smoother
Speaker 3: looking skin, skin that has less fine lines. The a
Speaker 3: periods of fine lines and deeper wrinkles become less quote
Speaker 3: unquote prominent. Is it gonna plump your skin up from
Speaker 3: a raise into a grape? No, it's not gonna do that.
Speaker 3: But is it gonna make your skin overall slightly thicker,
Speaker 3: more durable list throne to getting fine lines?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So is there a difference between retine, retinoid and retinol.
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Where do I start? I don't understand.
Speaker 3: That's like okay, umbrella term, yes, the redinoid category okay, okay.
Speaker 3: The active is tread and oen active means the second
Speaker 3: you put it on your skin, it starts working. The
Speaker 3: step before that active are the redinals are E, T, I,
Speaker 3: N A L. Those have to get converted to tread
Speaker 3: and no in once they're applied on your skin to
Speaker 3: start working, okay, and the step before that are the
Speaker 3: retinols R E, T, I, N O L, which needs
Speaker 3: to get converted to retinales that then get converted to
Speaker 3: tread and oen. So they have two steps they have
Speaker 3: to go through before becoming active. Redinels have one step,
Speaker 3: and treadonoen is right away active.
Speaker 1: So I should buy a treatonoan or what am I.
Speaker 3: Mind I should buy? You should try first, if you're
Speaker 3: trying to really be diligent about this in your sensitive skin,
Speaker 3: A redinol. Yes, it needs two steps before it becomes active.
Speaker 3: But I would rather you use a retinol more nights
Speaker 3: of the week than not and your skin be happy.
Speaker 3: Then you they try to know in one night of
Speaker 3: the week and your skin flare up and your face
Speaker 3: fall off because it was too intense for you.
Speaker 1: I like this, I like consistency over time. I'm like
Speaker 1: a moderate type of personality. Okay, I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about botox and filler because I've been hearing
Speaker 1: new things and I've heard before from the skincare girlies
Speaker 1: on the internet where I get all of my information
Speaker 1: about skincare, and I'm very excited because we have an
Speaker 1: expert here.
Speaker 2: Finally, Okay, filler.
Speaker 1: I heard recently that a lot of people are moving
Speaker 1: away from filler in their face because it never quite dissolves,
Speaker 1: it starts to move, and it could even age.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: Do you use filler for your patients?
Speaker 3: I do, I do, And I think this is again
Speaker 3: where the pendulum is swinging. Okay, if you go back
Speaker 3: to twenty eighteen, right Kylie Jenner lips the lips sucking
Speaker 3: glass shot.
Speaker 1: Whatever the snapple bottles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, the really square draw lines that everybody
Speaker 3: was promoting the intent before and afters that you would
Speaker 3: find on social like within ten minutes. I was very
Speaker 3: adamantly against that, and I was shouting from the rooftops.
Speaker 3: Subtle can be dramatic. Subtle can be dramatic. It's not
Speaker 3: about trying to get that instant gratification drama. Unfortunately, people
Speaker 3: liked instant gratification and they went for the drama. What
Speaker 3: happens They get their faces shoved with a shit ton
Speaker 3: of filip, way too often, way too young, way too regularly,
Speaker 3: and not necessarily done by the right person because they're
Speaker 3: chasing a deal. And therefore, what happens if you fast
Speaker 3: forward six seven years, their faces look like balloons. They're
Speaker 3: blown up, and now they're like, WHOA. This is terrible
Speaker 3: because they were not doing it with a long term
Speaker 3: view in mind. I think if things are done correctly
Speaker 3: with the right candidate in front of you, in a
Speaker 3: very subtle way, to the point where I even tell
Speaker 3: my patients, you're going to ask me why the hell
Speaker 3: did I spend money If I don't fully see a difference.
Speaker 3: That is what holds your face slowly over time? What
Speaker 3: does my face look like this I've been treating myself
Speaker 3: for ten years. I eject my own face, and I
Speaker 3: don't think I look like a buffer fish. I don't
Speaker 3: think I look deformed, and I don't think I look
Speaker 3: like not me. If you look at me from now
Speaker 3: versus ten years ago, I'm more or less the same.
Speaker 3: But I was not injecting myself with five syringes four
Speaker 3: times a year. It was maybe one syringe twice a year,
Speaker 3: maybe two syringes every other time. But it was very,
Speaker 3: very light. And I think people have lost sight of that,
Speaker 3: that your face and aging is a journey and the
Speaker 3: goal with these minimally invasive procedures is not to get
Speaker 3: drama today, but to hold onto your face slowly over time.
Speaker 3: And if you really find the person who's aesthetic approach
Speaker 3: you respect, who is willing to hold you back and
Speaker 3: tell you no and go against what it is you
Speaker 3: fully want. But you respect their approach and you respect
Speaker 3: their subjectivity, and I think you will find yourself in
Speaker 3: the good hands. But if you're chasing a group on zeal,
Speaker 3: if you're chasing a price tag, if you're chasing a fad,
Speaker 3: it's not going to work. If you want to grow with.
Speaker 1: Someone moderation, I really like your philosophy.
Speaker 3: Everything in moderation.
Speaker 2: If you could give me like a one word answer
Speaker 2: on this. Let's say I have a little bit of
Speaker 2: money saved up. I want to go to my dermatologist's office,
Speaker 2: and I want to get the best bang for my
Speaker 2: buck procedure to tackle something like hyper pigmentation or acne
Speaker 2: scarring between lasers, micro needling, chemical peels. Morpheus eight like,
Speaker 2: where's the best place to put your money when you're
Speaker 2: actually at the dermatologist's office.
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to talk to you exafter I talk
Speaker 3: to patient, I want to tell you the following you
Speaker 3: can go and get licless so option, but you're not
Speaker 3: going to maintain a six pack if you don't go
Speaker 3: to the gym. There is no point in getting a
Speaker 3: laser treatment if you're not on the right skincartine. And
Speaker 3: I did that once. I said that once to a
Speaker 3: patient who wasn't even paying, by the way, it was
Speaker 3: a free consult that was offering, and she got pissed.
Speaker 3: She goes, no, but tell me what to do, and
Speaker 3: I was like, go get out of a bitter skincurty
Speaker 3: and she will. But what laser? I'm like, I would
Speaker 3: tell you this if you're paying me, and I'm not
Speaker 3: even even paying me. So literally, you start with a
Speaker 3: skincre routine targeting that problem. You have hyperpigmentation from acne marks,
Speaker 3: you get on a skin care routine that is targeting
Speaker 3: how to fade your brown spot. You have a lot
Speaker 3: of textual issues, You get on a skincre routine that
Speaker 3: is helping promote collagen production. You try to tolerate good
Speaker 3: exfoliating acid if you try to even out your actual texture.
Speaker 3: You have roseatia, you get on a skincre utine that
Speaker 3: is calming in nature. So we first start with a
Speaker 3: skin care routine that we know is not going to
Speaker 3: trigger your skin, and then we approach with discolouration. That
Speaker 3: is why I started, because that's what most people have,
Speaker 3: not just from my own personal experience, but also my patients.
Speaker 3: You start with a skincare routine targeting hyperpigmentation. You usually
Speaker 3: can get sixty seventy percent improvement if you're militant, and
Speaker 3: then we can decide what are the lasers we want
Speaker 3: to try to see what takes us to that next
Speaker 3: level if we even feel we want to get to
Speaker 3: that next level, or we apply a prescription hydroquinone first
Speaker 3: and then jump into the lasers. And whether it is
Speaker 3: a fraxle, an ipl whatever, an alex laser, whatever you want,
Speaker 3: they're all different variations, so you got to try different
Speaker 3: things out. But if you're holding onto every penny expecting
Speaker 3: one fraxal to create a miracle for you, you're only
Speaker 3: going to be disappointed because the damage is under the
Speaker 3: skin and it's going to come back out. And that's
Speaker 3: why I'm so adamant about the skin care.
Speaker 2: Routine, Doctor Idris. That's what I did.
Speaker 1: I got a fraxel in January and my mom looked
Speaker 1: at me. I went home for fourth of July and
Speaker 1: she looked at me and she was like, all the
Speaker 1: sun spots are back. What happened with the fraxel? And
Speaker 1: I was like, I think it's not one and done.
Speaker 3: Because you weren't on the skincare routine. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 3: one and done because the damage is under your skin,
Speaker 3: and so you gotta keep it suppressed. You got to
Speaker 3: keep it.
Speaker 1: At bay, and you can keep it at bay with skincare.
Speaker 3: Look at my face, I have no filter.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: You have no sun damage.
Speaker 3: I have had no lasers on my face since September
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, when I launched my skincare line. That
Speaker 3: was the last time I did a treatment because I
Speaker 3: felt pressure that I had to do one before I launched.
Speaker 3: I am telling you, when you are on a solid
Speaker 3: routine and you are militant about it, and that's why
Speaker 3: I truly genuinely try to simplify mine, you will see
Speaker 3: results long term.
Speaker 1: Doctor Idris. I'm sold. I'm not just saying this. I
Speaker 1: am going to buy your skincare line.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to even send it to you, but.
Speaker 1: No, no, I want to support.
Speaker 3: You're very sweet, but you should be militant about it,
Speaker 3: and I really genuinely, from the bottom of my heart,
Speaker 3: I mean it. And patients come in willing to spend
Speaker 3: two thousand dollars on a frack, So of course I
Speaker 3: can make a quick book, but I would rather keep
Speaker 3: that patient long term and see them through a better
Speaker 3: result than you. For example, who's now pissed that you
Speaker 3: spent two thousand dollars and now your pigment is back.
Speaker 3: Are you going to go back and trust that person
Speaker 3: to take care of you as you get older? No, no,
Speaker 3: I'm never going back there. You're such an angel, doctor Eatris.
Speaker 3: Thank you for being honest.
Speaker 2: I love doctors with integrity because so many of them
Speaker 2: just want you to come in and they want to
Speaker 2: make money off of the highest priced procedures.
Speaker 3: I think it's not just doctors. I think it's human nature. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, you have to feel rich in your heart.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get all kumbaya and like meditative on
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the bright side, after all, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of ku my eye.
Speaker 3: Yes, I guess you can get kumbai on here, But
Speaker 3: like I really think, growing up, I'm the youngest of
Speaker 3: three girls. I am Lebanese and I was made fun
Speaker 3: of to no end. You're so white, You're white like
Speaker 3: a chicken. It broke by contidence as a kid. But
Speaker 3: because I was the youngest, I just learned how to
Speaker 3: fight back. And there's a reason why I ended up
Speaker 3: in cosmetics. There's a reason subconsciously I probably ended up
Speaker 3: in dermatology with skin because I was made fun of
Speaker 3: my skin my whole life growing up. And I really, genuinely,
Speaker 3: in my heart feel passionate that you can gain continence
Speaker 3: by helping yourself through your skin, no matter how you
Speaker 3: decide to look at the glass, and you can find
Speaker 3: beauty and charm and everybody that walks through the door.
Speaker 3: And I really mean this, and I'm not just saying
Speaker 3: this to appear like an angel. I'm really not an angel.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of an asshole on the other side. But
Speaker 3: it is the truth, Like you can find that beauty,
Speaker 3: you can find that confidence, you can truly help yourself.
Speaker 3: And I think it is such a disservice when people
Speaker 3: try to push false hopes and dreams, whether it is
Speaker 3: in geners or through procedures or through surgeries, without telling
Speaker 3: the person. Let's first work on you and help yourself
Speaker 3: to get there. So you can help yourself get there,
Speaker 3: and Skincareus is one avenue of it. So back to
Speaker 3: your original question, though someone you don't ask me about,
Speaker 3: for example, at these scars, which is the best one micronetilaing, fratle, etcetera.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell patients when it comes to scars and textures,
Speaker 3: especially rome wasn't built overnight. You cannot remodel collage and
Speaker 3: overnight with one treatment. It is several treatments. And I
Speaker 3: go through the different types of procedures with my patients
Speaker 3: who have scars so that they can experience each one.
Speaker 3: So then we can then make a decision together how
Speaker 3: best to proceed. Do we want to do subcision with
Speaker 3: a little bit of light filler superficiently to pick up
Speaker 3: that scar? Do you want to do an abrasive sort
Speaker 3: of fractionated laser on top of your skin to break
Speaker 3: down your skin? Do you want to do microneediling, or
Speaker 3: do you want to introduce heat to help promote college
Speaker 3: and from with it? And so we go through various
Speaker 3: different procedures together and then we make a joint decision
Speaker 3: on how we want to proceed, and it takes a
Speaker 3: good year and a half to start getting results after
Speaker 3: doing four or five treatments, and it doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker 3: But if they have the right expectations, they're only happy
Speaker 3: because they're seeing the results, and then you what to expect.
Speaker 1: I love this so much. I think our culture is
Speaker 1: so obsessed with new, now, next, and you are promoting
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. It's playing the long game in every
Speaker 1: sense of that term. So you are just so excellent.
Speaker 1: I hope you come back. You taught me and someone
Speaker 1: so much today.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're a truth teller, which is what we need more of.
Speaker 3: You guys are very sweet, and thank you so much
Speaker 3: for having me. I hope if anything this helps one
Speaker 3: person who listens to it, it helped me and me.
Speaker 3: Well done, Great success.
Speaker 1: Doctor Sharene Idris is a board certified dermatologist and founder
Speaker 1: of the science backed skincare Doctor Idris. You can catch
Speaker 1: her giving all kinds of skincare tips and advice on TikTok,
Speaker 1: Instagram and YouTube. We need to take another quick break,
Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're spicing things up in
Speaker 1: a summer segment inspired by book talk.
Speaker 2: And we're back. Okay, Danielle, are you ready to add
Speaker 2: a little spice to this show, Simone, I thought you'd
Speaker 2: never ask. Okay before we do. I know about book talk,
Speaker 2: but I don't know that I'm familiar with spicy book talk,
Speaker 2: are you yes?
Speaker 1: Okay? So book Talk is the corner of TikTok devoted
Speaker 1: to reviewing and rating books. Right well, Spicy book Talk
Speaker 1: is the corner within that corner dedicated to romance and
Speaker 1: romanticy novels, some of which might be too hot for
Speaker 1: this podcast.
Speaker 2: My people. Okay, maybe that's fair. Some of them are
Speaker 2: definitely a little too spicy for this show. But I
Speaker 2: gotta say I love the idea of rating something based
Speaker 2: on how spicy it is. It's a perfect metric. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna do that right now, with the help of
Speaker 2: our friends at Walmart, who created a line of hot
Speaker 2: sauces inspired by the book Talk spicy scale of one
Speaker 2: to five chili peppers.
Speaker 1: It's called Melinda's Spicy Books Hot Sauce Set. There are
Speaker 1: five different spice levels, so we have mild, medium, hot, flaming,
Speaker 1: and burning. And because Simona and I love a trend,
Speaker 1: we tried the sauces and then we picked things that
Speaker 1: we liked at Walmart that corresponded to each sauces level
Speaker 1: of spice.
Speaker 2: Oh, I am so excited to get into this. I
Speaker 2: love spice. I'm a spicy girl, so I'm dying to
Speaker 2: see what you picked too.
Speaker 1: So Bestie's, we're gonna sample the hot sauces once again.
Speaker 1: This one is the mild flavor oooh, and it's mango
Speaker 1: hob and narrow. It only has one spicy pepper on it,
Speaker 1: but it still has a kick. And this one reminds
Speaker 1: me of the Mabelne Lifter plump lasting lip gloss in
Speaker 1: mauv bite because it still has a little bite to it,
Speaker 1: but not too much.
Speaker 2: I chose the mango colored no boundaries woven beech tote
Speaker 2: bag because mango habanaro a mango beech tote. It just
Speaker 2: makes sense. It makes total sense. Okay, now we have
Speaker 2: hot sauce number two. This is the medium, the green one. Okay,
Speaker 2: so let's give this one a try again. She's doing
Speaker 2: the tequila shot style on the palm.
Speaker 1: Delicious.
Speaker 2: Ooh, that is delicious. I taste the lime. I taste
Speaker 2: the vinegar. That would go perfect on my summer taco. Okay,
Speaker 2: for this one. This one reminds me of the Bubble
Speaker 2: skincare bounce back refreshing tone or spray. It kind of
Speaker 2: reminds me of that little heat effect that you get
Speaker 2: on your face, a little sweat whenever you start eating
Speaker 2: something really spicy. It's a perfect fix for whenever you are,
Speaker 2: you know, need a little refresh.
Speaker 1: I went with the tall, stainless steel Hudson tumbler with
Speaker 1: flip up straw. It's the thirty ounce and it's in
Speaker 1: the orange color. I mostly chose it because I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: two jolapeno peppers orange. Plus I love a tumbler. I
Speaker 1: bring one to work every day. Okay, we're officially getting hot.
Speaker 1: This is the Spicy Books Chipotle Hot Sauce. What do
Speaker 1: you think about this one?
Speaker 2: By this color, you can tell that it is loaded
Speaker 2: up with some potent Chipotle flavor.
Speaker 1: My tongue is on fire with this one. I have
Speaker 1: to go with the Summer Camp sunscreen because even if
Speaker 1: it's hot outside, you gotta protect your skin with that SPF.
Speaker 3: Mmmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with the fire Dragon party tube
Speaker 2: inflatable raft because I can just envision myself on that
Speaker 2: raft in my pool, the balance of the cool water
Speaker 2: with this hot hot sauce on some Guacan chips. I'm
Speaker 2: here for it.
Speaker 1: I see you closing your eyes. You're really envisioning that.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: I'm going there, all right, It's getting real, Danielle. Next up,
Speaker 2: we have these spicy books flaming hot sauce.
Speaker 1: This one really has a kick. Okay, I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 1: The flaming red savina reminds me of the olive in
Speaker 1: June instant press on nails in the lavender shimmer color.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why. All that shimmer makes
Speaker 1: me flaming hot. You pop those bad boys on in
Speaker 1: a car ride on your way to a night out,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you are flaming hot.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm all about a car manny for mine. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with the free assembly cotton cropped, buttoned down shirt.
Speaker 2: Whenever you're eating something spicy, you always want to have
Speaker 2: a little access to ventilation, and nothing does that like
Speaker 2: a button down shirt. That's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, our last one, are you ready to be put
Speaker 1: to the test.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: I can take it.
Speaker 1: This one is called burning. We're gonna taste this one again.
Speaker 1: It's definitely the reddest of them all.
Speaker 2: Hard to talk after that one for burning, I have
Speaker 2: a burning desire to rock the no boundaries. Pink sunglasses,
Speaker 2: spicy sauce in the mouth, spicy summer outside. You need
Speaker 2: a little eye protection.
Speaker 1: Very grease, lightning. I love it. I'm going with the
Speaker 1: scoop block heel mule sandals because if it's gonna be
Speaker 1: hot of my tongue, hot of my mouth, I better
Speaker 1: have heat on my feet and girls have heat too,
Speaker 1: So pink metallic sandals.
Speaker 2: Sign me up. Well, I'm sufficiently awake now. Yes, we're
Speaker 2: ready to record ten episodes. Now shop Melinda's Spicy Books,
Speaker 2: Hot Sauce set plus a curated collection of summer accessories,
Speaker 2: fashion and beauty so you can have your own spicy
Speaker 2: summer now at Walmart. That's it for today's show. Tomorrow,
Speaker 2: we're joined by author Alexian Ferrel Falmuth. She's here to
Speaker 2: talk about her book Twelfth Night, which is the summer
Speaker 2: yapick for Reese's book Club.
Speaker 1: Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app,
Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2: I'm simone voice you can find me at Simone Voice
Speaker 2: on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1: Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok that's Robay.
Speaker 2: See you tomorrow, folks, same time, same place. Until then,
Speaker 2: keep looking on the bright side.