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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Hey Bessie's today on the bright side. It's Wellness Wednesday, y'all,

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Speaker 2: and the nobs Bord certified dermatologist, doctor Charene Idris, is

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Speaker 2: here to share the best and worst ingredients for our skin,

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Speaker 2: which products are worth the splurge and weather Filler is

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Speaker 2: aging us. It's Wednesday, July tenth. I'm Simone Boyce.

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Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright side from

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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Simone. We're talking about skincare today. I gotta

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Speaker 1: know what's your regimen. Give it to me.

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Speaker 2: So my regimen is largely focused around my needs, which

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Speaker 2: is I have acne prone skin. I have for my

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Speaker 2: entire adulthood, and so I have spent so many hours

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Speaker 2: inside the dermatologist's office, Danielle. But during that process, throughout

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Speaker 2: all the pain and all the pokes and prods that

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Speaker 2: I've endured, I have learned so much about my skin. Ye.

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Speaker 2: So my routine is very simple and straightforward. I use

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Speaker 2: a very gentle cleansing jelly by a brand called Notarium,

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Speaker 2: female owned sold it target very affordable, it's awesome. After that,

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Speaker 2: I put on azilaic acid in the morning and at

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Speaker 2: nights azuleic acid fifteen percent great to keep your skin

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Speaker 2: clear and reduce any discoloration. After that, I put on

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Speaker 2: an SPF which is by a brand called Zitstika. It's

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Speaker 2: a noncametogenic SPF that doesn't make you break out or

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Speaker 2: make your skin feel greasy. And then at nights I

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Speaker 2: do wash again, which I know is controversial, and then

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Speaker 2: I put on azylic acid retinol for sleep and maybe

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Speaker 2: some squalen oil or some sort of moisturizer.

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Speaker 1: That's so good. You really got it all buttoned up.

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Speaker 2: How about you? What does your routine look like?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna front with any of this.

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Speaker 1: In the morning, I wash my face with whatever face

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Speaker 1: cleanser I have at the time, brand agnostic, it's whatever's there.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm at a hotel, I'm happy to use

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Speaker 1: the hand wash soap or the bar soap.

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Speaker 2: I'll like use whatever is around. Oh my gosh, it's

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Speaker 2: so drying. That strips your skin. I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: And then I'll use a Keels face lotion and I

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Speaker 1: use an SPF. That's the only thing I'm really consistent about.

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Speaker 1: And at night, I do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I sometimes use an under I cream if I can

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Speaker 1: find one in my drawer, but I don't really have

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Speaker 1: a regimen. And I've been to the dermatologist and they

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Speaker 1: give me a regimen, but it's like four steps and

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Speaker 1: I have random samples from them, and I know I'm

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Speaker 1: supposed to do it in a certain order, and I

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Speaker 1: just never totally understand what I'm doing. So here's my

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Speaker 1: question for you, though, because I actually misspoke the other day.

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Speaker 1: I said my great grandmother lived to one hundred and one.

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Speaker 1: She lived till one hundred and three. My mom corrected me, wow,

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Speaker 1: And she used like two things her whole life, and

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Speaker 1: it was like Pond's face cream, which was like very

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Speaker 1: of her time, and she.

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Speaker 2: Had awesome skin.

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Speaker 1: And part of me is like, I know there's science

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Speaker 1: behind this, but does any of it actually matter, Like.

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Speaker 2: Do you see a difference, Oh, my gosh, yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: oh one thousand percent. I think a lot of it

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Speaker 2: is the makeup of your skin, like the composition of

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Speaker 2: your skin, the oil ratio on your skin, like a

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Speaker 2: lot of that is really important. I think it just

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Speaker 2: depends on the person. Like you can wash your face

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Speaker 2: with the hotel bar soap. I cannot do that because

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Speaker 2: it'll strip my skin and my skin will freak out

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Speaker 2: and get irritated. But I mean, I am loving where

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Speaker 2: my skin is at right now, and it's because of

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Speaker 2: the active ingredients I'm using. Aslic acid is like a

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Speaker 2: wonder ingredient. I had used it in the past and

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Speaker 2: then I stopped using it for some reason. I rediscovered

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Speaker 2: it recently. It is like a game changer. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I believe in skincare. It can actually work.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually really excited today because our guest is doctor

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Speaker 1: Sharene Idris. She's a board certified dermatologist who's research backed talk.

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Speaker 1: She's real as it gets, has garnered millions of followers

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok. She's one of the Internet's favorite

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Speaker 1: dermatologists and really an expert in the skin issues associated

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Speaker 1: with aging. So here she is busting myths about the

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Speaker 1: holy grail of skincare, which is retinal.

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Speaker 3: Ren It all lies that needs to die from a

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Speaker 3: forty year old board certified dermatologists who also happens to

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Speaker 3: be a Rentinoll veteran.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 3: You cannot use rentin all in the summer. This should

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Speaker 3: die because the earth is round and some climates are

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Speaker 3: summer all year round, and everybody can use a rentinoll

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Speaker 3: if they can tolerate it.

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Speaker 2: I am with Doctor Idris on this one. Retinols, retinoids,

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Speaker 2: give me all of them. Back in twenty eighteen, doctor

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Speaker 2: Idris was so frustrated by all the skincare misinformation she

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Speaker 2: saw on social media that she decided to set the

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Speaker 2: record straight herself by breaking down her own nighttime skincare

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Speaker 2: routine using the hashtag pillow talk derm. So that term

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Speaker 2: pillow talk derm took off very quickly, and it turned

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Speaker 2: into her answer follower questions about which products and procedures

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Speaker 2: are worth it and which ones are just marketing. And

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Speaker 2: believe me, she did not hold back well.

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Speaker 1: Six years later, her skin is just as glassy as

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Speaker 1: it was back then. And I know you can't see it,

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Speaker 1: but either check Instagram or trust me, because I promise

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Speaker 1: it is. And she has a science back skincare line

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Speaker 1: available at Sephora. Doctor Idris is here with us today

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Speaker 1: to talk about her hero ingredients, the truth about filler,

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Speaker 1: and how to care for your skin at whatever age

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Speaker 2: Doctor Idris, Welcome to the bright side.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It's brighter already

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Speaker 3: with you guys here.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love that.

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Speaker 2: We are so excited to have you. We can't wait

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Speaker 2: to get the real, real from you. But before we

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Speaker 2: get started, can you tell us a little bit about yourself.

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Speaker 2: What would you say is your skincare philosophy.

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Speaker 3: My skincare philosophy is that it is about consistency over intensity,

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Speaker 3: like you really want to be going after your skin's

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Speaker 3: biggest problems and not falling into the sphere of missing

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Speaker 3: out on skincare, which a lot of people have and

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Speaker 3: they end up buying themselves problems along the way. Wow,

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Speaker 3: they can't fit because they're stuck in this tornado of

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Speaker 3: a skincare world. And so it's really about being consistent.

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Speaker 3: It's not about going wrong and strong, but being consistent

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Speaker 3: with what it is that is targeting your biggest problem.

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Speaker 1: This is exactly what I wanted to ask you about,

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Speaker 1: because while I love skincare, I feel like it has

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Speaker 1: been taken over by capitalism. There was an article in

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Speaker 1: the Cut that compared skincare to a psychological safety blanket,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was a really great comparison. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: the internet is sort of to blame. But what do

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Speaker 1: you think is behind our obsession with skin care?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the US has finally caught up

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Speaker 3: to the rest of the world in the sense that

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Speaker 3: they're finally trying to understand how do you skincare? Why

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Speaker 3: are we using it? And that's because of the pandemic,

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Speaker 3: right we were all locked up, we were not wearing makeup.

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Speaker 3: I think our culture over this side of the world

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Speaker 3: is pretty much like cover it up, slap on some makeup,

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Speaker 3: ignore it like you know, like you never really focused

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Speaker 3: which covered it up. And over the past four years ish,

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Speaker 3: the focus has shifted and we are now looking more

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Speaker 3: towards how do we make our skin better because we

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Speaker 3: had time to try to understand what was on the

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Speaker 3: going slow as long as people understand the philosophy in

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Speaker 3: order to understand how to better help themselves. That to

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Speaker 3: throw craft in the market just because you want to

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Speaker 3: try to gain virality or you're trying to like appeal

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Speaker 3: brand further, and unfortunately it's just become overloaded in that sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we live in drop culture right now, and so

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Speaker 1: you want to have a drop every month, and it's

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Speaker 1: just it's not necessary.

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Speaker 3: It's not necessary, like everything great was once new, but

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Speaker 3: not everything new is great, and you have to remind

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Speaker 3: yourself that with skincare, especially like tried and Chruse or

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Speaker 3: tried and Chruse for a reason. And if it really

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Speaker 3: is great, then in two years it's still going to

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Speaker 3: be great. So there's no need to feel like you're

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Speaker 3: missing out if you don't jump on it today.

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Speaker 2: Well said Well, in addition to being a dermatologist, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you have this huge social media audience and you start

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Speaker 2: all your videos the same way. You say, I'm a

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Speaker 2: fourty year old board certified dermatologist. Why do you feel

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Speaker 2: the need to start with your age in your videos.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny. I started that on a whim last

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Speaker 3: year when I was thirty nine, and it just kind

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Speaker 3: of clicked and stuck. And it's funny because people are like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you're filtered. Oh, you do a million cosmetic procedures. Oh

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Speaker 3: but you're only twenty nine, Oh but oh but oh

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Speaker 3: but oh but but no, there's no o butts. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm as transparent as it gets. It's not like I'm

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Speaker 3: a celebrity who's hiding plastic surgery that I had on

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Speaker 3: So I figured if I started it by just removing

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Speaker 3: I am, it would get rid of all of those comments.

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Speaker 3: And it didn't fully get rid of the comments. But

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Speaker 3: I guess it clicks and people like to hear my

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Speaker 3: going to be going on for a while. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I am a forty year old word certified dermatologist.

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Speaker 2: So what is the secret behind that forty year old

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Speaker 2: glass skin that I'm seeing right here?

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Speaker 1: It really is glass.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Do you have an elaborate skincare

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Speaker 2: routine or you have a lessons more kind of girly.

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Speaker 3: Very honestly, Like my sinker line was born from my

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Speaker 3: philosophy less is more. And there was a time when

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Speaker 3: I had a twelve step skincare routine, and this was

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Speaker 3: back in twenty nineteen after I had my son and

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Speaker 3: I was literally using all these over the counterproducts to

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Speaker 3: target my malasma and my discoloration because I couldn't be

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Speaker 3: And so I had a twelve step skincurutine and it

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Speaker 3: was completely unviable for life. It was not sustainable, it

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Speaker 3: was a waste of my time. There was no way

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Speaker 3: I could get through it. And I just felt like

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Speaker 3: I was chasing something that I could never fully attain.

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Speaker 3: And so when I would talk to my patients about

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Speaker 3: having it even skin tone, I would also give them

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Speaker 3: And so when it came to starting a skincare line,

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Speaker 3: I truly genuinely wanted to simplify problems with very simple solutions,

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Speaker 3: and so I thought to myself, what are the ten

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Speaker 3: twelve most important ingredients. I do not want to have

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Speaker 3: bullshit marketing claims. I want them to be put in

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Speaker 3: at levels of efficacy that have been demonstrated either by

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Speaker 3: the manufacturers or through science through time, and I want

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Speaker 3: to make sure that they make sense in the products

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Speaker 3: that they're in. And so that's how the first three

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Speaker 3: products were launched. And those are the staple of my

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Speaker 3: skincure routine. I have been using them every single day

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Speaker 3: since August of twenty twenty one, a year prior to launch,

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Speaker 3: when I finalized the formulas, and I obviously am testing

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Speaker 3: different things as we go along, but the hypercereum and

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Speaker 3: We need moisture moisture moisture, like you don't need hyaluronic

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm excited, just the tip of the iceberg exactly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we've got to hippods and take a break, but

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Speaker 2: Serene Idris.

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Speaker 1: We're back with doctor Sharene Idris, the Internet's favorite dermatologist.

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Speaker 2: So, doctor Idris, earlier you mentioned that there are may

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Speaker 3: So remember what I said, though, target your routine based

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Speaker 3: glycolic and lactic together are a beautiful combination to even

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Speaker 3: brands can never claim that because that's bordering on a drug,

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Speaker 3: it should be at fifteen percent and that is prescription level.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do over the counter products even move the needle?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to flip that on you and ask you

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Speaker 3: I'm a dermatologist. Dermatology tested means nothing, right, and I

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Speaker 3: tell you that saying dermatologists test it doesn't mean much. Okay, great,

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Speaker 3: the products that you've created. Medical grade use traditionally is

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Speaker 3: higher quality ingredients. Not true. I could have claimed my

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about prescription versus OTC though.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's different. I am probably one of the very

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Speaker 3: it comes to this vitamin A class of redinoids. When

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Speaker 3: it's too strong. It can be irritating, and if it's irritating,

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Speaker 3: I would much rather you be consistent with something less irritating,

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Speaker 1: So to this point, I have another debunking question for you,

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Speaker 1: because for ten years all I heard was retinal, retinal, retinal,

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Speaker 3: It's not going to thin your skin. It is not

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Speaker 3: But is it gonna make your skin overall slightly thicker,

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Speaker 1: So is there a difference between retine, retinoid and retinol.

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Speaker 3: That's like okay, umbrella term, yes, the redinoid category okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: But I would rather you use a retinol more nights

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, the really square draw lines that everybody

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Speaker 3: don't think I look like a buffer fish. I don't

432
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Speaker 3: think I look deformed, and I don't think I look

433
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: like not me. If you look at me from now

434
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Speaker 3: versus ten years ago, I'm more or less the same.

435
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Speaker 3: But I was not injecting myself with five syringes four

436
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: times a year. It was maybe one syringe twice a year,

437
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: maybe two syringes every other time. But it was very,

438
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: very light. And I think people have lost sight of that,

439
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: that your face and aging is a journey and the

440
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: goal with these minimally invasive procedures is not to get

441
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: drama today, but to hold onto your face slowly over time.

442
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Speaker 3: And if you really find the person who's aesthetic approach

443
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Speaker 3: you respect, who is willing to hold you back and

444
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: tell you no and go against what it is you

445
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: fully want. But you respect their approach and you respect

446
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Speaker 3: their subjectivity, and I think you will find yourself in

447
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: the good hands. But if you're chasing a group on zeal,

448
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 3: if you're chasing a price tag, if you're chasing a fad,

449
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: it's not going to work. If you want to grow with.

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Speaker 1: Someone moderation, I really like your philosophy.

451
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: Everything in moderation.

452
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Speaker 2: If you could give me like a one word answer

453
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Speaker 2: on this. Let's say I have a little bit of

454
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Speaker 2: money saved up. I want to go to my dermatologist's office,

455
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Speaker 2: and I want to get the best bang for my

456
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Speaker 2: buck procedure to tackle something like hyper pigmentation or acne

457
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Speaker 2: scarring between lasers, micro needling, chemical peels. Morpheus eight like,

458
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Speaker 2: where's the best place to put your money when you're

459
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Speaker 2: actually at the dermatologist's office.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to talk to you exafter I talk

461
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Speaker 3: to patient, I want to tell you the following you

462
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: can go and get licless so option, but you're not

463
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: going to maintain a six pack if you don't go

464
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Speaker 3: to the gym. There is no point in getting a

465
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Speaker 3: laser treatment if you're not on the right skincartine. And

466
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Speaker 3: I did that once. I said that once to a

467
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Speaker 3: patient who wasn't even paying, by the way, it was

468
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Speaker 3: a free consult that was offering, and she got pissed.

469
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Speaker 3: She goes, no, but tell me what to do, and

470
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Speaker 3: I was like, go get out of a bitter skincurty

471
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Speaker 3: and she will. But what laser? I'm like, I would

472
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: tell you this if you're paying me, and I'm not

473
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: even even paying me. So literally, you start with a

474
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Speaker 3: skincre routine targeting that problem. You have hyperpigmentation from acne marks,

475
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: you get on a skin care routine that is targeting

476
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Speaker 3: how to fade your brown spot. You have a lot

477
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Speaker 3: of textual issues, You get on a skincre routine that

478
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: is helping promote collagen production. You try to tolerate good

479
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: exfoliating acid if you try to even out your actual texture.

480
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Speaker 3: You have roseatia, you get on a skincre utine that

481
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Speaker 3: is calming in nature. So we first start with a

482
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Speaker 3: skin care routine that we know is not going to

483
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: trigger your skin, and then we approach with discolouration. That

484
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Speaker 3: is why I started, because that's what most people have,

485
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Speaker 3: not just from my own personal experience, but also my patients.

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Speaker 3: You start with a skincare routine targeting hyperpigmentation. You usually

487
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Speaker 3: can get sixty seventy percent improvement if you're militant, and

488
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: then we can decide what are the lasers we want

489
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: to try to see what takes us to that next

490
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Speaker 3: level if we even feel we want to get to

491
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Speaker 3: that next level, or we apply a prescription hydroquinone first

492
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: and then jump into the lasers. And whether it is

493
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: a fraxle, an ipl whatever, an alex laser, whatever you want,

494
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: they're all different variations, so you got to try different

495
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Speaker 3: things out. But if you're holding onto every penny expecting

496
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: one fraxal to create a miracle for you, you're only

497
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: going to be disappointed because the damage is under the

498
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: skin and it's going to come back out. And that's

499
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Speaker 3: why I'm so adamant about the skin care.

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Speaker 2: Routine, Doctor Idris. That's what I did.

501
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: I got a fraxel in January and my mom looked

502
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Speaker 1: at me. I went home for fourth of July and

503
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: she looked at me and she was like, all the

504
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: sun spots are back. What happened with the fraxel? And

505
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I think it's not one and done.

506
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: Because you weren't on the skincare routine. Yeah, it's not

507
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: one and done because the damage is under your skin,

508
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 3: and so you gotta keep it suppressed. You got to

509
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Speaker 3: keep it.

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Speaker 1: At bay, and you can keep it at bay with skincare.

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Speaker 3: Look at my face, I have no filter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's crazy.

513
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Speaker 1: You have no sun damage.

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Speaker 3: I have had no lasers on my face since September

515
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, when I launched my skincare line. That

516
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: was the last time I did a treatment because I

517
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: felt pressure that I had to do one before I launched.

518
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 3: I am telling you, when you are on a solid

519
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: routine and you are militant about it, and that's why

520
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 3: I truly genuinely try to simplify mine, you will see

521
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: results long term.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Idris. I'm sold. I'm not just saying this. I

523
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: am going to buy your skincare line.

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00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: I'm happy to even send it to you, but.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I want to support.

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Speaker 3: You're very sweet, but you should be militant about it,

527
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 3: and I really genuinely, from the bottom of my heart,

528
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: I mean it. And patients come in willing to spend

529
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Speaker 3: two thousand dollars on a frack, So of course I

530
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 3: can make a quick book, but I would rather keep

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Speaker 3: that patient long term and see them through a better

532
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: result than you. For example, who's now pissed that you

533
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: spent two thousand dollars and now your pigment is back.

534
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 3: Are you going to go back and trust that person

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Speaker 3: to take care of you as you get older? No, no,

536
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Speaker 3: I'm never going back there. You're such an angel, doctor Eatris.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being honest.

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Speaker 2: I love doctors with integrity because so many of them

539
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: just want you to come in and they want to

540
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: make money off of the highest priced procedures.

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Speaker 3: I think it's not just doctors. I think it's human nature. Yeah,

542
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: you know, you have to feel rich in your heart.

543
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get all kumbaya and like meditative on

544
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: you guys.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the bright side, after all, there's a

546
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Speaker 2: lot of ku my eye.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I guess you can get kumbai on here, But

548
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: like I really think, growing up, I'm the youngest of

549
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: three girls. I am Lebanese and I was made fun

550
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: of to no end. You're so white, You're white like

551
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: a chicken. It broke by contidence as a kid. But

552
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: because I was the youngest, I just learned how to

553
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: fight back. And there's a reason why I ended up

554
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: in cosmetics. There's a reason subconsciously I probably ended up

555
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: in dermatology with skin because I was made fun of

556
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: my skin my whole life growing up. And I really, genuinely,

557
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: in my heart feel passionate that you can gain continence

558
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: by helping yourself through your skin, no matter how you

559
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: decide to look at the glass, and you can find

560
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: beauty and charm and everybody that walks through the door.

561
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Speaker 3: And I really mean this, and I'm not just saying

562
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: this to appear like an angel. I'm really not an angel.

563
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm kind of an asshole on the other side. But

564
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: it is the truth, Like you can find that beauty,

565
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: you can find that confidence, you can truly help yourself.

566
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: And I think it is such a disservice when people

567
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: try to push false hopes and dreams, whether it is

568
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: in geners or through procedures or through surgeries, without telling

569
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: the person. Let's first work on you and help yourself

570
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: to get there. So you can help yourself get there,

571
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: and Skincareus is one avenue of it. So back to

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00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 3: your original question, though someone you don't ask me about,

573
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: for example, at these scars, which is the best one micronetilaing, fratle, etcetera.

574
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: And I'll tell patients when it comes to scars and textures,

575
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: especially rome wasn't built overnight. You cannot remodel collage and

576
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: overnight with one treatment. It is several treatments. And I

577
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: go through the different types of procedures with my patients

578
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: who have scars so that they can experience each one.

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Speaker 3: So then we can then make a decision together how

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Speaker 3: best to proceed. Do we want to do subcision with

581
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: a little bit of light filler superficiently to pick up

582
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: that scar? Do you want to do an abrasive sort

583
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: of fractionated laser on top of your skin to break

584
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: down your skin? Do you want to do microneediling, or

585
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: do you want to introduce heat to help promote college

586
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: and from with it? And so we go through various

587
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: different procedures together and then we make a joint decision

588
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: on how we want to proceed, and it takes a

589
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: good year and a half to start getting results after

590
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: doing four or five treatments, and it doesn't happen overnight.

591
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: But if they have the right expectations, they're only happy

592
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: because they're seeing the results, and then you what to expect.

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Speaker 1: I love this so much. I think our culture is

594
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: so obsessed with new, now, next, and you are promoting

595
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. It's playing the long game in every

596
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: sense of that term. So you are just so excellent.

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Speaker 1: I hope you come back. You taught me and someone

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00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: so much today.

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00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: Thank you.

600
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: You're a truth teller, which is what we need more of.

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00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: You guys are very sweet, and thank you so much

602
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: for having me. I hope if anything this helps one

603
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: person who listens to it, it helped me and me.

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00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: Well done, Great success.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Sharene Idris is a board certified dermatologist and founder

606
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: of the science backed skincare Doctor Idris. You can catch

607
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: her giving all kinds of skincare tips and advice on TikTok,

608
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Speaker 1: Instagram and YouTube. We need to take another quick break,

609
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Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're spicing things up in

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Speaker 1: a summer segment inspired by book talk.

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Speaker 2: And we're back. Okay, Danielle, are you ready to add

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Speaker 2: a little spice to this show, Simone, I thought you'd

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Speaker 2: never ask. Okay before we do. I know about book talk,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know that I'm familiar with spicy book talk,

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Speaker 2: are you yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So book Talk is the corner of TikTok devoted

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Speaker 1: to reviewing and rating books. Right well, Spicy book Talk

618
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Speaker 1: is the corner within that corner dedicated to romance and

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Speaker 1: romanticy novels, some of which might be too hot for

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Speaker 1: this podcast.

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Speaker 2: My people. Okay, maybe that's fair. Some of them are

622
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Speaker 2: definitely a little too spicy for this show. But I

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Speaker 2: gotta say I love the idea of rating something based

624
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Speaker 2: on how spicy it is. It's a perfect metric. So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do that right now, with the help of

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Speaker 2: our friends at Walmart, who created a line of hot

627
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Speaker 2: sauces inspired by the book Talk spicy scale of one

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Speaker 2: to five chili peppers.

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Speaker 1: It's called Melinda's Spicy Books Hot Sauce Set. There are

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Speaker 1: five different spice levels, so we have mild, medium, hot, flaming,

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Speaker 1: and burning. And because Simona and I love a trend,

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Speaker 1: we tried the sauces and then we picked things that

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Speaker 1: we liked at Walmart that corresponded to each sauces level

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Speaker 1: of spice.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I am so excited to get into this. I

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Speaker 2: love spice. I'm a spicy girl, so I'm dying to

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Speaker 2: see what you picked too.

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Speaker 1: So Bestie's, we're gonna sample the hot sauces once again.

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Speaker 1: This one is the mild flavor oooh, and it's mango

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Speaker 1: hob and narrow. It only has one spicy pepper on it,

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Speaker 1: but it still has a kick. And this one reminds

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00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: me of the Mabelne Lifter plump lasting lip gloss in

643
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: mauv bite because it still has a little bite to it,

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Speaker 1: but not too much.

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Speaker 2: I chose the mango colored no boundaries woven beech tote

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Speaker 2: bag because mango habanaro a mango beech tote. It just

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Speaker 2: makes sense. It makes total sense. Okay, now we have

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Speaker 2: hot sauce number two. This is the medium, the green one. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so let's give this one a try again. She's doing

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Speaker 2: the tequila shot style on the palm.

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Speaker 1: Delicious.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that is delicious. I taste the lime. I taste

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Speaker 2: the vinegar. That would go perfect on my summer taco. Okay,

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Speaker 2: for this one. This one reminds me of the Bubble

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Speaker 2: skincare bounce back refreshing tone or spray. It kind of

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Speaker 2: reminds me of that little heat effect that you get

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Speaker 2: on your face, a little sweat whenever you start eating

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Speaker 2: something really spicy. It's a perfect fix for whenever you are,

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Speaker 2: you know, need a little refresh.

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Speaker 1: I went with the tall, stainless steel Hudson tumbler with

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Speaker 1: flip up straw. It's the thirty ounce and it's in

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Speaker 1: the orange color. I mostly chose it because I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: two jolapeno peppers orange. Plus I love a tumbler. I

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Speaker 1: bring one to work every day. Okay, we're officially getting hot.

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Speaker 1: This is the Spicy Books Chipotle Hot Sauce. What do

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Speaker 1: you think about this one?

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Speaker 2: By this color, you can tell that it is loaded

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Speaker 2: up with some potent Chipotle flavor.

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Speaker 1: My tongue is on fire with this one. I have

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Speaker 1: to go with the Summer Camp sunscreen because even if

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Speaker 1: it's hot outside, you gotta protect your skin with that SPF.

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Speaker 3: Mmmm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with the fire Dragon party tube

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Speaker 2: inflatable raft because I can just envision myself on that

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Speaker 2: raft in my pool, the balance of the cool water

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Speaker 2: with this hot hot sauce on some Guacan chips. I'm

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Speaker 2: here for it.

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Speaker 1: I see you closing your eyes. You're really envisioning that.

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm going there, all right, It's getting real, Danielle. Next up,

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Speaker 2: we have these spicy books flaming hot sauce.

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Speaker 1: This one really has a kick. Okay, I'm gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: The flaming red savina reminds me of the olive in

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Speaker 1: June instant press on nails in the lavender shimmer color.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why. All that shimmer makes

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Speaker 1: me flaming hot. You pop those bad boys on in

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Speaker 1: a car ride on your way to a night out,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you are flaming hot.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm all about a car manny for mine. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go with the free assembly cotton cropped, buttoned down shirt.

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Speaker 2: Whenever you're eating something spicy, you always want to have

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Speaker 2: a little access to ventilation, and nothing does that like

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Speaker 2: a button down shirt. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Okay, our last one, are you ready to be put

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Speaker 1: to the test.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: I can take it.

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Speaker 1: This one is called burning. We're gonna taste this one again.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely the reddest of them all.

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Speaker 2: Hard to talk after that one for burning, I have

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Speaker 2: a burning desire to rock the no boundaries. Pink sunglasses,

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Speaker 2: spicy sauce in the mouth, spicy summer outside. You need

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Speaker 2: a little eye protection.

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Speaker 1: Very grease, lightning. I love it. I'm going with the

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Speaker 1: scoop block heel mule sandals because if it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hot of my tongue, hot of my mouth, I better

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Speaker 1: have heat on my feet and girls have heat too,

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Speaker 1: So pink metallic sandals.

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Speaker 2: Sign me up. Well, I'm sufficiently awake now. Yes, we're

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Speaker 2: ready to record ten episodes. Now shop Melinda's Spicy Books,

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Speaker 2: Hot Sauce set plus a curated collection of summer accessories,

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Speaker 2: fashion and beauty so you can have your own spicy

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Speaker 2: summer now at Walmart. That's it for today's show. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: we're joined by author Alexian Ferrel Falmuth. She's here to

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Speaker 2: talk about her book Twelfth Night, which is the summer

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Speaker 2: yapick for Reese's book Club.

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Speaker 1: Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: I'm simone voice you can find me at Simone Voice

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Speaker 2: on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok that's Robay.

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Speaker 2: See you tomorrow, folks, same time, same place. Until then,

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Speaker 2: keep looking on the bright side.