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Speaker 2: Hi, Bucky's Adventure coming right up. Here we go. It's

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Man Deyfirmany's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: get started, bre our executive producer, how do we get

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Speaker 2: involved with? Ask Bucky? Tell me about that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead and tweet at Fox Sports Radio you

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. He's back, my guy, my partner,

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Speaker 2: the one and all. We missed you. We really did,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good, Andy, Hell's everything.

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Speaker 2: Oh, probably a lot better than you because you didn't

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Speaker 2: have a good trip to your team lost, and I

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Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about that. How was

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Speaker 2: the trip? You know? I read your piece in Foxsports

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Speaker 2: dot Com. You kind of pulled back the curtain a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the trip to England last week thirty

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Speaker 2: five to seven score was not a good trip. But

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Speaker 2: you guys left on Monday, you know, for a game

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. What do you do all week? Tell me

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Speaker 2: about that show. I want to know, And I also

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Speaker 2: want to know when you make a trip like that,

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Speaker 2: do you get Frequent Flyer points on your own card?

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Speaker 2: Is that something you could get? I want to know

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Speaker 2: all this stuff on the trip here.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we do it in reverse.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I do do that because I book my own travel,

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Speaker 5: so I do have the ability to take advantage of

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Speaker 5: the miles going from LA to London.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's all on me. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The team left on Monday, got there early Tuesday. Tuesdays

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Speaker 5: normally in the league the player's day off, so they

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Speaker 5: took the day off and they had their normal.

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Speaker 4: Schedule, normal practice schedule and those things.

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Speaker 5: And in the past the extend this day has been

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Speaker 5: really good for the Jaguars in terms of recreating a

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Speaker 5: training camp environment. Guys are forced to spend a lot

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Speaker 5: of time together, the chemistry, the camaraderie typically coming out

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Speaker 5: of that break, meaning out of the London games, they

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Speaker 5: tend to do really well because they're really well connected.

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Speaker 5: The Rams were doing something day out before, a more

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Speaker 5: radical approach, which was more like they approached it I did.

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Speaker 4: They left Friday from Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: Because they played the Ravens the week before they stayed

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Speaker 5: then on Friday they took off to go to London

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Speaker 5: and landed early Saturday, had a little walkthrough, rested and

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Speaker 5: relaxed the whole day, and then woke up two point

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Speaker 5: thirty was kickoff time locally, and then man, they.

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Speaker 4: Got busy on the Jaguars.

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Speaker 5: And so that twenty four hour turn and burn might

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Speaker 5: be something that more teams use because a lot of

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Speaker 5: teams have really been foggy when it comes to making

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Speaker 5: those international trips and playing games and they can't get

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Speaker 5: their team to play at their best. The Rams may

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Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about the food situation and

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Speaker 2: obviously the time change, how does that affect everybody?

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Speaker 5: I mean, like the food is different because like when

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Speaker 5: so they try and keep you on your routine. You

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Speaker 5: But every team that travels has their own things, so

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Speaker 4: Guys will go on their own to dinners.

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Speaker 5: And those things if they wish, but if not, there's

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Speaker 5: But most people, I think can't adapt and do it

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Speaker 2: You know, I would think this. You go in there

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Speaker 2: five plus days. These guys are packing, like, not the

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Speaker 2: you go back home. They're packing two three four suitcases

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Speaker 4: I mean, who's packing two three four trips?

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Speaker 2: What two two three four suitcases for this trip? Some

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Speaker 5: Think no, I mean, and it should. I mean, if

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Speaker 5: they are, they're overpacking. I mean you're there for five days,

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Speaker 5: they give you everything you could want. You need some

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Speaker 5: walking around clothes, but you're staying so far outside the city.

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Speaker 4: There's not. It's not vacation.

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Speaker 5: You're not doing a lot of like sight seeing in

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Speaker 4: Like you're going to work. There may be some things

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Speaker 4: I mean if you're handling business.

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Speaker 5: Now, if you're going over there and you're distracted, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got one last question, which it's been on

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Speaker 2: they get them from the home team.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, you gotta pack and bring you on stuff.

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Speaker 5: The home team's not supplying anything. Yeah, the home team

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Speaker 5: Like like we shouldn't be supplying that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that goes on the flight as well, those bikes. Huh.

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Speaker 5: I mean maybe maybe they maybe they work it out.

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Speaker 5: So you got to understand. There are two things that

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Speaker 4: There's the stuff.

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Speaker 5: That you see on the plane right where everyone goes

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Speaker 5: The other part of it, there is a i'll just

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Speaker 5: After the game, they everything back onto that truck and

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Speaker 2: Now you're clear that left for me. I want to

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Speaker 2: get that straight. So we did miss you. You're back,

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Speaker 2: You're back on the seat, and here we go. Now

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about some guy that we kind

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Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to watch the entire game.

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Speaker 2: Colorado down to three and five. Now they loose fifty

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Speaker 2: three to seven to Utah. What's going on? And I

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Speaker 2: off the field after getting injured. You're done. You're not

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Speaker 2: going back in the game. Our guys ain't soft. This

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Speaker 2: And I guess that he's going to avoid a penalty

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Speaker 2: faking of uninjury. But what's going on there? That three

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Speaker 5: Their physicality and toughness overwhelms people, particularly when you play

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Speaker 5: sometimes those are the breaks. I mean, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 5: the bear definitely got the Buffaloes. I think for coach Fryme,

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Speaker 5: this was expected to be a bit of a step

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Speaker 5: back year given what was leaving. You lost your franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 5: And they may have dropped a game or two that

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Speaker 5: they should have won or that they probably could have won.

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Speaker 5: But the teams that they've lost to, I mean, those

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Speaker 5: the main thing for him is can he hold the

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Speaker 5: there's gonna be a lot of noise around it. He

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Speaker 5: He keeps the team together and tell them to ignore

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Speaker 5: the noise on the outside, focus on what is going

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Speaker 5: well inside, and let's just see what the record looks

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Speaker 5: like at the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: Now you talk about noise around the team that loses,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about your team, North Carolina. Because the only

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Speaker 2: yesterday they lost another heartbreak. They're two and five, they're

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Speaker 2: zero to three in the ACC. They go for a

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Speaker 5: They're just short, but they are playing better. The energy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the way they're losing, you can't blame that

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Speaker 5: Like, after watching the Virginia game, their best football is ahead,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, in the end, is the real deal.

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Speaker 4: They know each other.

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Speaker 5: And that is one of the things that's underestimated in

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Speaker 4: When you're able to keep a.

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Speaker 2: You know, you look at the leaders in the conferences

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Speaker 2: They're eight no, the first time since nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he is having a real tough time in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: I would say this, Luke Fickel was very ambitious when

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how that happens. I mean, Vanderbilt was

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Speaker 4: A few different things happened to Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 5: Warn Clark Lee is a grad, so he understands the

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Speaker 5: They've been able to put together a plan where they

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Speaker 5: High school players, yes, but a lot of transfers. Then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and another academically strong school that's undefeated, Georgia Tech

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Speaker 4: I mean he's a really good player.

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Speaker 4: Because you understand the challenges. You don't make excuses because

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. We gottayesk fucking about ten

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes from now. But NBA, the players and coaches

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Speaker 2: are embroiled in two separate gambling controversies detailed by the FBI.

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Speaker 2: All right, you heard about this, Bucket Brooks. What was

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Speaker 2: your reaction when you heard this? You're an athlete, you

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Speaker 2: played the game, you were in the National Football League?

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Speaker 2: Could it happened there? And tell me about this because

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Speaker 2: the report I heard this morning in the New York

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Speaker 2: Post was that it was not an NBA play with

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Speaker 2: the poker situation. It was an NFL player. So we'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of speculation about all

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Speaker 5: of it, and without going through the indictments and seeing

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Speaker 5: out the paperwork, what I tell you is it appears

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Speaker 5: that these are high stakes pokers.

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Speaker 4: Two things going on at once. One you have on

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Speaker 4: the court.

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Speaker 5: You have Tier Rosier and others either influencing games with

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Speaker 5: their own abilities or providing inside information. Tier Rosier lead

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Speaker 5: telling people to bet on the unders doesn't play well

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Speaker 5: appears to I guess point shape would be the best

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Speaker 5: way to describe how people have painted his involvement and

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Speaker 5: at Damon Jones giving insider information about injuries. That's why

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Speaker 5: if you notice, not only at the pro level, but

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Speaker 5: the collegiate level, everyone is having to talk about injuries

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Speaker 5: and who's up, who's down, who's playing, who's not playing,

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Speaker 5: because that influences the lines and the way the money goes.

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Speaker 5: The part that is salacious is right now, the high

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Speaker 5: stakes poker games, right that they say that Chauncey Billings

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Speaker 5: was a big part of bring some buddies, some friends,

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Speaker 5: some people that had a lot of money, maybe even

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Speaker 5: cloud chasers, and kind of lure them into a situation

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Speaker 5: where it's rigged. You know, the blackjack, I mean, the

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Speaker 5: poker tables are rigged. There's technology reportedly and a bunch

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Speaker 5: of other stuff that allowed.

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Speaker 4: The house to always be on top. Now, if that happened, that.

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Speaker 5: Is I mean, it's harbored on so many different fronts

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Speaker 5: because you have friends bringing friends in and the friends

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Speaker 5: unknowingly or stepping into a situation where they could.

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Speaker 4: Be the victims. That's not cool.

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Speaker 5: You also are I mean doing something that look I

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Speaker 5: understand like the competitive nature of athletes, having been one,

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Speaker 5: having watched what goes on in the pros, and how

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Speaker 5: the same thing that makes them great on the field

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Speaker 5: can also undo a lot of what they do in

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Speaker 5: their personal lives. And this is a situation where it

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Speaker 5: is something that a lot of players will come through,

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Speaker 5: not all of them will be implicated, but man, there's

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Speaker 5: nothing that players love more, that we love more than

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Speaker 5: being able to get into a competitive environment and compete.

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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, in this situation, the poker game is a

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Speaker 5: competitive situation, but it appear to be loaded for the house,

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Speaker 5: who also allegedly has some mob tizes.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, it really is not for those the uninformed that

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Speaker 2: we talked about. A prop bet, Now, a prop bet

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Speaker 2: is a type of bait, a wet that a bet

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Speaker 2: that allows gamers to bet on whether to play will

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Speaker 2: exceed perhaps a certain statistical number, such as maybe whether

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Speaker 2: the play will finish over or under a certain total points, rebounds,

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Speaker 2: or assist. I'm going to go back to this Terry

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Speaker 2: Rozier thing and we'll get to the FBI in a second.

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Speaker 2: There was a game there was a question between the

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Speaker 2: Hornets and the New Orleans Pelicans back on March twenty third,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Terry Rozier played first nine minutes of

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Speaker 2: that game. He did not return. He said he had

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Speaker 2: a foot issue, but he didn't play again the rest

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Speaker 2: of the season. Charlotte had eight games remaining, was not

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs of contention at all, so it didn't

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Speaker 2: seem really unusual that Rosier was shut down for the

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Speaker 2: season finale. Okay, In that game that he played and

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Speaker 2: he left, he finished with five points, four rebounds, and

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Speaker 2: two assists in the first period, and there was a

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Speaker 2: pretty productive quarter, but well below as usual total output.

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Speaker 2: And there were posts online from March twenty third, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three that showed that some bet is were furious

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Speaker 2: with sports books that night when it became evident that

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Speaker 2: Rosier was not going to return to the Charlotte New

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Speaker 2: Orleans game after the first quarter, with many turning to

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Speaker 2: social media they said that something quote shady had gone

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Speaker 2: on regarding the prop bets involving his stats for that night.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we know about that. But Cash Bttel

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Speaker 2: from the FBI had a big statement on Thursday, and

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Speaker 2: let's hear what the FBI had to say about this.

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Speaker 8: Individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry Rozier

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Speaker 8: were taken into custody today former current NBA players and coaches.

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Speaker 4: What you don't know is that.

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Speaker 8: This is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation

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Speaker 8: that spanned the course of years. The FBI led a

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Speaker 8: coordinated takedown across eleven states to arrest over thirty individuals

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Speaker 8: today responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing.

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Speaker 2: The worst part of this situation is since the situation

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty three, the NBA had them some

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Speaker 2: sort of a case study on Terry Rozier and they

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Speaker 2: basically came out and said, we found nothing. Obviously they

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Speaker 2: found nothing because they were afraid of the backlash of this.

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Speaker 2: And now I would tell you this does not bear

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Speaker 2: well for an NBA. It looks terrible. I mean, we've

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Speaker 2: always said that sometimes a misfree throw and they're in

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Speaker 2: past something like that, it's going to leave people scratching

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Speaker 2: their head and saying, maybe maybe it's maybe it's not right,

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Speaker 2: maybe nothing's kosher here. But now with this situation, it

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Speaker 2: really hurts the league and the credibility at any big time.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think in anything, we won't do it,

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Speaker 5: but I would ask for patients and let the cases

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Speaker 5: play out. Everything doesn't always seem as it appears at

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Speaker 5: first glance, and this is an investigation. In our country,

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Speaker 5: you're presumed innocent until proving guilty jury of your peers.

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Speaker 4: So we need to let this play out.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, the FBI is going to put all of the

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Speaker 5: information that they have out because they're trying to influence

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Speaker 5: the potential jurors will be on their jury.

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Speaker 4: So you make it appear that there's.

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Speaker 5: This insurmountable evidence against the parties involved, and it may be,

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Speaker 5: but I think we have to just be careful.

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Speaker 4: About jumping to conclusions and saying that.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, the league is this now. For the league,

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Speaker 5: it certainly is egg a little egg on their face

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Speaker 5: when it comes to dealing with this and understanding, and

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Speaker 5: so they need to be more on it when it

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Speaker 5: comes to ensuring that the integrity of the game is protected.

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Speaker 5: But this affects the individual players far more than the

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Speaker 5: league itself, because there's not a league WHI scan the

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Speaker 5: where teams are fixing games and those things as a player,

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Speaker 5: well a couple of players Joanty Border last year and

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Speaker 5: then this year with Rosier Damon Jones. Stuff seems a

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Speaker 5: little different where players deliberately taking dives and giving invention

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Speaker 5: and really are mixed up in bad stuff. I don't

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Speaker 5: think the league will see anything happen to it. There'll

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Speaker 5: be some noise around it, but nothing that's gonna be

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Speaker 5: detrimental to the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to know how the league did

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Speaker 2: an investigation Terry Rozier and found nothing, and the FBI

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Speaker 2: did so Let's say ask David st David Stone, excuse

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Speaker 2: me to make he rest in peace. Let's say ask

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Speaker 2: Adam Silver to commission what happened? Go ahead, Adam.

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Speaker 9: So what happened was because bets were placed through legalized,

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Speaker 9: legal betting companies, they picked up aberrational behavior around a

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Speaker 9: particular game in March of twenty three, and so that

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Speaker 9: was brought to our attention by the regulators and the

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Speaker 9: betting companies. We then looked into that situation.

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Speaker 1: Had turned about it, and while there.

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Speaker 9: Was that aberrational betting, we frankly couldn't find anything.

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Speaker 4: Terry at the time cooperated.

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Speaker 9: He gave the League office his phone, he sat down

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Speaker 9: for an interview, and we ultimately concluded that there was

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Speaker 9: insufficient evidence.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. I mean, it doesn't bode well for Adam Silver.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it makes the NBA looked good. I

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Speaker 2: mean they didn't find anything in the FBI did, and

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Speaker 2: it certainly looks like a covered that to me looks

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Speaker 2: worse than the actual act of throwing the games, because

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Speaker 2: if you knew something was going on the FBI did,

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Speaker 2: how come the NBA did well. Maybe the NBA should

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Speaker 2: have done it in conjunction with the FBI. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It just didn't look good for Adam Silver there. It

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Speaker 2: really did not.

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Speaker 4: No, it didn't.

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Speaker 5: But once again, I'll say, let's play this out. How

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Speaker 5: do we know that the NBA is not right about

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Speaker 5: their findings. We're assuming that the FBI is always correct.

654
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Speaker 5: And I would say that I don't know. It used

655
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Speaker 5: to be lockstock and Barrel that if the FBI put

656
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Speaker 5: charges on you, they were going to win at an eighty.

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Speaker 4: Percent conviction rate.

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Speaker 5: It's not the same because they put a lot of

659
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Speaker 5: charges on a lot of different people, particularly under Gosh

660
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Speaker 5: Batal and new administration, where it's a different emphasis and

661
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Speaker 5: focus in those things.

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Speaker 4: So let's let this play out.

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Speaker 5: I understand the hot topic nature, the hot take nature

664
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Speaker 5: of all of this. Yeah, like, you don't want your players,

665
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Speaker 5: current or former, involved in these type allegations. But if

666
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Speaker 5: you've investigated some of it on your own, you tend

667
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Speaker 5: to know what's real and what's not. And so we

668
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Speaker 5: just shiveredserve judgment before jumping all in on one side

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Speaker 5: of the topic.

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Speaker 2: He help me out here because the other night, the

671
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Speaker 2: Celtics who play in the Knicks in Madison Square Garden

672
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Speaker 2: and Jalen Brown was talking to the media and he

673
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Speaker 2: said the NBA is not doing enough to protect players

674
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Speaker 2: some issues surrounding sports betting. What does he mean by that?

675
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Speaker 2: I mean you should have self control. What does the

676
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Speaker 2: NBA have to do to control you about wagering.

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Speaker 5: No, it's not about them controlling themselves about waging. Is

678
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Speaker 5: having all these degenerates in your DMS fussing at you

679
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Speaker 5: because they made a wager on the game and you

680
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Speaker 5: did something that impacted the game positively or negatively, catching passes,

681
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Speaker 5: not catching past the scoring points or whatever. You have

682
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Speaker 5: all these people that can get close to you before

683
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Speaker 5: and it's one of the things about social media, like

684
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Speaker 5: it's the double edged sword, right. It's good that people

685
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Speaker 5: have more access to you, but it's also bad that

686
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Speaker 5: people have more access to you. Before they couldn't get

687
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Speaker 5: to the player, they couldn't confront or talk or whatever.

688
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Speaker 5: But the phones and all the different social media platforms

689
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Speaker 5: it made it very very easy for them to weigh

690
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Speaker 5: in on what they'd think. And I get it. I

691
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Speaker 5: get it after our show about people talking about what

692
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 5: you sound like this, and you should say this, and

693
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 5: like all this other stuff, and if you're not wired

694
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 5: the right way, the opinions of others can really impact

695
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Speaker 5: how you feel about yourself. And with the pressure that

696
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: some of the sports betters can put on these players

697
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 5: verbally because you say, why don't you just block them?

698
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Speaker 5: Or you need it because some people you read it, man,

699
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 5: and it still sits in your belly as you're processing it.

700
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Speaker 5: So that's what Jaalen Brown is referring to, just the

701
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Speaker 5: amount of information that people have when you how they

702
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Speaker 5: share it.

703
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Speaker 2: I hear it. Now, you clear that, But let me

704
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: leave you with this the NC double A and I've

705
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: read this. They're looking to give athletes permission to wager

706
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: on pro sports. Really, are you kidding? We're going to

707
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: take the nil money and bet on the pro sports. Now,

708
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: that's the last thing you want these kids to do.

709
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Speaker 2: I don't get it. I'm saying wagering. Is it healthy?

710
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: Is it helping? Is it good? Has it been? Certainly

711
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Speaker 2: brings a lot of revenue into the NBA, NFL, whatever

712
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Speaker 2: it may be, And that's why these these major league

713
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: leagues have done that, Major League Baseball as well. But

714
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: I think the end result right now, we're seeing the

715
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: problems out there, is creating problem and we don't need more.

716
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Speaker 2: I think they're going to keep it away from the

717
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Speaker 2: college kids.

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Speaker 4: I would agree. I don't think that you should. But

719
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Speaker 4: here's where it gets tricky.

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Speaker 5: Because kids grew up playing fantasy football with their friends

721
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Speaker 5: and let's just throw out Yahoo, right, So they had

722
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Speaker 5: a digital platform where they did it, they got used

723
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Speaker 5: to it, they get rewarded for having a team that

724
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: had the most points, and so it can become very

725
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 5: easy to blur the lines when it comes to betting

726
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 5: on the game and playing daily fantasy. That's a huge

727
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Speaker 5: part of what they grew up in. As much as

728
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Speaker 5: I want to say we should ban it, these kids

729
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: that's all they know. Like their hustle has always been

730
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 5: to play the numbers in to rig games and to

731
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Speaker 5: do those things. Now you have to move me on.

732
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Speaker 5: So it's Look, it's just the way of the world

733
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: is the way things have shifted. I wouldn't want to

734
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Speaker 5: see it. I don't condone it, but I understand why

735
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Speaker 5: so many kids are drawn to it.

736
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Speaker 2: Well said, I hear what you're saying. He's Bucky Brooks.

737
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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Firman. We're live from the Fox Bets Radio

738
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Speaker 2: studios and he's back, and so are we with our questions.

739
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Speaker 2: Why ask Bucky is next? All right? Ass Bucky? Right

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Speaker 2: around the band, there's Bucky. That's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Freman,

741
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Speaker 2: and we are Fox Football Sunday and Foxbot's ready and

742
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: we're live for the Fox Spots Radio studios. It's about

743
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Speaker 2: maybe eleven minutes before the top of the out, but

744
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Speaker 2: it is time right now for as Bucky. Brianna, are

745
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: you ready for this?

746
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Speaker 3: I am so ready. Yeah, Okay, okay, I'll start. Do

747
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: we just need to accept, Bucky that the Vikings are

748
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: a transitional year after they fell to the Chargers on

749
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they're in a tough year.

751
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 5: I book, I wouldn't say it's it's all the way

752
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 5: over because we're at the midpoint of the season and

753
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 5: people can get hot down the stretch, but it doesn't

754
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: look good. They've had to deal without playing without JJ McCarthy.

755
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 5: Carson Wentz certainly has not been the answer. And if

756
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 5: you don't have your franchise quarterback in this league, you're done.

757
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a bit of a transition year for

758
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Speaker 5: the Vikings.

759
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: You know, you did such a great question there, Brad,

760
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 2: Why are you do another one? You really did?

761
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 3: Do't have to do that second one right there.

762
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: If you want to do a second question, you can.

763
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Speaker 3: Okay, the worst team in the NFL, Bucky, is it

764
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: the Saints? Is it the Jets? Who do you think?

765
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: And why?

766
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Speaker 4: Well, the Saints seven wins, so it has to be

767
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: the Jets. I mean, Jets are one and seven. Now.

768
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Speaker 5: The thing about that's funny about the Jets is there

769
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: are four games that where they've been really really close,

770
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Speaker 5: where they could win. They just haven't been able to

771
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Speaker 5: get it done. And I think New York is kind

772
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 5: of I want to say, over blown. Some of the

773
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 5: Jets issues they just have not been able to win

774
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 5: the close games, and the trick will be can Aaron

775
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 5: Glenn stay the course because you watch Dan Campbell go

776
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 5: through some similar three and thirteen season his first year

777
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 5: before kind of finding his way the second year at

778
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 5: a seven and one and then they really turned it

779
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: all the way around. Does Aaron Glenn have the patients?

780
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: Do the team have the patients to go through what

781
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 5: you have to go through sometimes to make a better product.

782
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's Glenn. I think it's what Johnson,

783
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: the owner. Does he have the patients? I mean, obviously

784
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: it's such at the top, and I don't think he's

785
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: much of a leader because that team is in poor

786
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: shape and it has been for years.

787
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it does start at the top, and their culture

788
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: has been bad because they've had so many much change

789
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 5: and turn more and normally the culture starts from a

790
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 5: conversation with ownership on what are the non negotiables, what

791
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: are the things that you feel strongly about. Let's make

792
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: sure we bring players in that don't have any of

793
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 5: those issues or transgressions on their resume, and then it's

794
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 5: about working hard and finding a way to take the

795
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: personnel that you have and elevate it. And right now

796
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 5: they have too many different issues, with too many different

797
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: parts of building a winning culture to even come close

798
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: to getting the results that they want.

799
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Speaker 2: No doubt. All Right, the Cleveland Browns beat the Miami

800
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: Dolphins thirty one to six last week. Now, could those

801
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: fins be lying down to see Mike McDaniel, that coach

802
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: get the acts?

803
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

804
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 5: I don't think they're deliberately lying down, But when you

805
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 5: get discouraged, different things happen. The first time you have

806
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: a bad play goal against, you overreact, act, you react

807
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 5: emotionally as opposed to using logic in those things.

808
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Speaker 4: And this is where they're at.

809
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 5: They just have to figure out how to get back

810
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 5: on track, how to continue to believe in the plan

811
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Speaker 5: and the process and know that they can be a

812
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: good team if they do these things.

813
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Speaker 4: Rights.

814
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Speaker 5: Some of that is on the players, but a lot

815
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 5: of his own, Mike McDaniel and how he presents.

816
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 4: It to the team.

817
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Speaker 2: All Right. Wide receiver Aja Brown is out for the

818
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles today. How big a deal is this? And

819
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: today they play the Giants. Maybe it's not that big

820
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 2: of a deal.

821
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's a big deal because the Giants beat them

822
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 5: early in the year. It's a big deal because what

823
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 5: it does is it takes away one perimeter playmaker from

824
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 5: the Eagles and allows the Giants to kind of redirect

825
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: their focus. It's a bigger deal because it now makes

826
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Speaker 5: Saquon's Barkley's production very critical to their success because they've

827
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 5: been able to get away with him putting up modest numbers.

828
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Speaker 5: Now he has to go back to being Saquon the

829
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 5: monster that we saw last year. We'll see if they

830
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 5: can overcome it. But it's not easy playing without some

831
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 5: of your people, no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt about that. Okay, Now, why did the FBI break

833
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: that NBA gambling story and opening week of the league?

834
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 2: And really we talked about the previous investigation with Billipson Rozier.

835
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: They were clear of no wrongdoings. But why do they

836
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: break that news on an opening week?

837
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Speaker 5: I mean because they knew exactly what it would do,

838
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 5: like create a kind of buzz and headlines.

839
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Speaker 4: In those things, you have to be able to be.

840
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: Firm, stand firmed in, you know, amid the chaos, and

841
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: say this is what's best for the team, this is

842
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: what we're doing, this is how it's going down for

843
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 5: the NBA. It's the same thing. The product is the product.

844
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 5: A lot of people love our product. And even though

845
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 5: this scandal is looming in the background, we're gonna focus

846
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 5: on the on the court product. If they do that,

847
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 5: they can get through it.

848
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Speaker 4: Right.

849
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Speaker 2: And do you think the Jets will ever win a game?

850
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Speaker 2: Will they go own sixteen? Which is hard to go

851
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Speaker 2: own sixteen or sixteen, seventeen, seventeen and oho.

852
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 4: Oh, they'll win a game. They'll eventually win a game.

853
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Speaker 4: They may win three games.

854
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: There we go. Okay, all right, question is who is

855
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: number one of the class. We'll have that and so

856
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: much more aware. Right here are a Fox Football Sunday,

857
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Speaker 1: Don't listen no Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: You know, at least there's one good thing that came

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Speaker 2: out of this school, and we'll talk about that in

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871
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,040
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872
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: you doing. You still got some jet lag?

873
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 6: No?

874
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: No, no, I was over there like in and out.

875
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm ready. I was used to it.

876
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: Had a good night when I got back on Monday night.

877
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 5: By Tuesday Wednesday, really.

878
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: I was ready. So it's all good.

879
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: How would the people, how'd they treat you there in

880
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: good old jolly London.

881
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: It's always great. I mean it's always great. I love

882
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: it over there, like it's nice spot. It's because the

883
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 4: English speaking country is not as much of a transition

884
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: obviously when you go over when it comes to like

885
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: being out and about learning how to get around and

886
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 4: those things. So I had terrific don And they take

887
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 4: our money too.

888
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 5: They will, but like you know, they operate on the

889
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 5: pound system, and so you have to do a little

890
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: bit of the conversion, so it may cost you a

891
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 5: little more dependent on the way that the US dollar.

892
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to go on back state side

893
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: now for a second was you know, I want to

894
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: just touch on college football for a little bit, a

895
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: little bit more. Okay, because we mentioned in the in

896
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: the first segment last hour, you know how it's wide open,

897
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: and maybe it's not. I think it is. I think

898
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: that is the most wide open college football season in

899
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: a long, long time. Ohio State, yes, head and shoulders above.

900
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: But Indiana I think has a shot. But the biggest

901
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: surprises in college football, and see if you agree, I'm

902
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: going to say that Texas A and M they're undefeated,

903
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech the same thing, they're undefeated, Vanderbilt, Brigham Young. Okay,

904
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, did you agree with those? I think those

905
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: are the ones in my mind that are the most

906
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: the most I guess unusual to so to speak, and

907
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: biggest surprises thus foreign college football.

908
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: I don't hear them. I don't hear them.

909
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 5: Okay, I lost you for a minutes. No, no, I

910
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 5: lost you for a minute. Yeah, they are some of

911
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: the biggest surprises. I would say, like to me, the

912
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 5: thing that stands out, because you were asking me about

913
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 5: the team that is a big surprise college football is

914
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 5: wide open. I would say Vanderbilt is probably the biggest

915
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 5: because of their stained success. They gave us a taste

916
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 5: of it last year, but man, they've come full circle.

917
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 5: I mean, like come out in full forest to be

918
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 5: a top ten team. Indiana sustaining their success to me

919
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: is a little bit of a surprise. A team that

920
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 5: has been surprising up until yesterday had been South Florida.

921
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 4: But they lose to Memphis. But they have been a surprise.

922
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 5: And I think the parody just the parody amongst college football,

923
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 5: the way nil and the money has been spread around.

924
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 5: Players are no longer just going to places to stay

925
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: and be the backup when they have an opportunity to

926
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: be a star or playing a storing role somewhere else.

927
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 5: That has changed the landscape has made it better in

928
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: my estimation in terms of the parody, worse in terms

929
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 5: of trying to keep it with all the players with

930
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: the movement.

931
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Okay, what kind of pressure to put on coaches that

932
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: are out winning? For example, you mentioned this early on

933
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: that Wisconsin, a tremendous school with great tradition in football, struggling.

934
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: They finally scored a touchdown your state of first score

935
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: that had in the last twelve quarter in their loss yesterday,

936
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: And I'm sure the athletic throught through our lums, just

937
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: saying to themselves, well maybe in public as well, just saying,

938
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: how could a school like Vanderbilt be so successful and

939
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: a power like we once wore a struggling what's happening here?

940
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: Got to put pressure on the coach?

941
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does put a lot of pressure. I'll just

942
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: say this.

943
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 5: If James or anything can get fired in the middle

944
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: of the season after playing in the College Football Playoff

945
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 5: and being in the semi finals, then all bets are

946
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: off when it comes to tenure in those things because

947
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 5: of what have you done for me lately? Landscape, if

948
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 5: you're not winning, you're going to be fired, regardless of

949
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 5: the buyout, because everyone expects and thinks to their team

950
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: is entitled to national championship participation, and that's not true.

951
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 4: That's not the case, but that's where we're at. And

952
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: I'm just.

953
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 5: I just can't wait to see how all these jobs

954
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 5: are going to play out, because everyone is not going

955
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 5: to be able to get someone who is university celebrated

956
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 5: as an upgrade over the previous person. So with these

957
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 5: big jobs that are out there, I just can't wait

958
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 5: to see how they feel it because there are more

959
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 5: seats than names.

960
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: Right now.

961
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: I would think that Luke fickles the very hot seat.

962
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly at LSU, he's next. And I'll say this,

963
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: I think that we discussed this earlier this year, and

964
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: I kind of come over to your side a little

965
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: bit because I was upset about why would you fire

966
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: a coach in mid season? I think the portal has

967
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: a lot to do with that, because if you get

968
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: rid of a coach now, there might be a possibility

969
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: a kid on your team who's very valuable may not

970
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: enter the portal. But because you never liked that coach,

971
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: if you keep the coach till the end, he'll get

972
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: into the portal and you lose them. So I think

973
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: that's the key right there, don't you think. And that

974
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: could be the reason why they're firing coaches early on

975
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: and in mid season.

976
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not a reason to do it.

977
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: Like what you have to do is because right now

978
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 5: you're given all the power to the players, and I

979
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 5: think people have overblown because they've made it like you

980
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 5: got to get in the porter, you have to do this,

981
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 5: you have to do that. I'm just telling you, like that,

982
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 5: it's fleeting. There are not many people that can live

983
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 5: in the porter because you can't build a team. At

984
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: the end of the day, you have to build a team,

985
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 5: and the team is what ultimately wins championships. There's not

986
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: one individual player that can carry your team to the title.

987
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 5: And you have to be consistent with how you're handling

988
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 5: everything with the players, because the players are always watching

989
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: who you pay, how you pay them, why you're paying

990
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 5: them matters.

991
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: And how do you handle the guys that are.

992
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 5: Not the so called stars, the lesser guys, the guys

993
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 5: that are maybe the minimum wage earners in that locker room.

994
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 5: Do you take care of them because they do a

995
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: lot of the dirty work, a lot of they heavy lifting.

996
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 5: So you got to make sure that you just don't

997
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 5: have a system that just rewards the stars, and you

998
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 5: don't pay everybody else because those other people are look

999
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 5: around world. Ain't no need for me to block. He's

1000
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: getting all the money, so why would I go out?

1001
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 5: So there's a lot to manage when money comes into

1002
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 5: the locker room in terms of still getting the team

1003
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 5: to buy into the core principles.

1004
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: Okay, you're talking about pay. Now, here's a question that's

1005
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: been on my mind for a while. I know you

1006
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: have the answer. Say you're an outstanding player at a

1007
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: smaller school, maybe the MAC Conference, which is not that small,

1008
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: but it's a smaller than the bigger schools. You know

1009
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's not SEC, it's not Big ten,

1010
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: Big twelve. So you go to school, you're Eastern Michigan,

1011
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: you're a Toledo, you're an outstanding quarterback. Obviously, I don't

1012
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: think they're getting a lot of money, if any at

1013
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: ault right, I don't think those guys are getting paid.

1014
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: Are they at a quarterback of Eastern Michigan or Toledo?

1015
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: So they're gonna want to go in the portal? Is

1016
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: that correct? I mean, I don't know, I would think.

1017
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: I mean there's something to that.

1018
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: Like some people believe that you got to go take

1019
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 5: a step up in competition to prove to the scouts

1020
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: that I could play there. Others like Quinna and Mitchell,

1021
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 5: who is currently playing with the Phildelphia Eagles and might

1022
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 5: be the best quarterback in football, he stayed at Toledo

1023
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 5: his old time. He rebuffed those overches and now I'm

1024
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 5: lord to the soil, to my team, to my university.

1025
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 5: And that is a good thing. I'll say this because

1026
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 5: I had this conversation throughout the week. If you're a

1027
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: player who's a decorated player, but you go to three

1028
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 5: or four different schools than your tenure. When it's time

1029
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 5: to transition from ball to civilian.

1030
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 4: Life and you need jobs, you need.

1031
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 5: Resources and references in those things, which are the people

1032
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: from those three jobs do you reach out to? Because

1033
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 5: you're not to distinguish a lum from anyone, and so

1034
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 5: some of that has been lost. I still believe that

1035
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 5: young people would be better served to grind through some

1036
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 5: of the adversity that may be ahead because they're not playing.

1037
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 5: If you're not playing, you need to ask yourself why

1038
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 5: am I not playing? Is the person in front of

1039
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 5: me better? What can I do different? How can I

1040
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 5: earn their trust and respect in those things? Those are

1041
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 5: internal things and you have to be willing to do that.

1042
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: Olly, let's go back to this situation. You're a star player,

1043
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: Toledo star quarterback. Obviously you're a Toledo because maybe your

1044
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: skill set was not good enough to play at Ohio

1045
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: State or Georgia Alabama. Right, so but he thinks he

1046
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: can he goes into portal. I mean if he couldn't

1047
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: play for those schools coming out of high school, why

1048
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: would you go in the portal and thinge. You could

1049
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: go play for those schools now and the coaches would

1050
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: have the same fillip process, wouldn't.

1051
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 5: They Actually, no, because they've seen him time on task development.

1052
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 5: They look different because, look, they finally had a chance

1053
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 5: to play, because so much of what you're doing, you're

1054
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 5: guessing when they're coming from high school, you're projecting that

1055
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 5: they'll be able to play, but you won't know until

1056
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 5: they get to that level. Well, by playing at a

1057
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 5: lower level and dominating at that level, you can see, Okay,

1058
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 5: his game does translate well to the pro. So yes,

1059
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 5: we should take a chance on and we should make

1060
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 5: a move to make sure that he's available for us.

1061
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. So yeah, like being able to see people play,

1062
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: that's everything.

1063
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because when Kurt Signidty went to Indiana

1064
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: from James Madison, he took a boatload of kids from

1065
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: James Madison, and obviously James Madison's not in the same

1066
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: level as the conference that Indiana plays in, and they're

1067
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: doing quite well right now.

1068
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it looks it matters less about what level

1069
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 5: they are how many stars they have in more about

1070
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: do they notice system? Are they bought in? Are they connected?

1071
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: Is the chemistry real and sustainable? Because it's all right,

1072
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 5: they'll figure it out. You can always figure out what

1073
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 5: good character folks news that are right by the program.

1074
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 5: It's the ones that pout and mope and don't do

1075
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: all the right things. Those are the ones that you

1076
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 5: eventually have to get rid of.

1077
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: All right, I hear what you say. Now there's talk

1078
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: about heat. There's a little bit of heat in New

1079
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: York school University of North Carolina with the football program

1080
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: and their coach. But we'll talk about that at some

1081
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: other time. But you did find a bright spot this

1082
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: week in your NFL dot Com column when you talk

1083
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: about Drake May. The twenty twenty four NFL draft class,

1084
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Speaker 2: it was Jaden Daniels or Drake May. And all of

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00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: a sudden, now Drake May out of North Carolina has

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Speaker 2: kind of captivated, as you say, captivated the football world

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Speaker 2: a tremendous start, and the stats right now round one,

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Speaker 2: number three pick in twenty twenty four at least the

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Speaker 2: NFL and completion rate also in so many other categories.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how did this happen is the coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, all of a sudden, now Drake May, his

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00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: head and shoulder is really over Jaydeon Davis. Obviously, I'll

1093
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: give Days a little bit of a pass because it's

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00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: a lot of injuries in that ball club.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say Drake May and Josh McDaniels, Mike Rabel, system, scheme,

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00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 5: coaching staff, all of it works. And Drake May was

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00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: always regarded as the prototype, right like you look at

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Speaker 5: his height, you look at his side, you look at

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00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: the athleticism, the passing prowess, all those things that he's

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00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: played it at North Carolina. You fell in love with

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Speaker 5: him because he had the prototypical things that lead to

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Speaker 5: success as a franchise quarterback. The problem was he was

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Speaker 5: madly inconsistent at North Carolina, and I was probably too

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00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 5: close to it, which is why my tarho colored glasses

1105
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 5: probably gotten away because you want so much more from

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00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 5: him when you see the talent. But he didn't play

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Speaker 5: well his final season, and that and open the door

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Speaker 5: for Jaden Daniels and even to a degree Kayla Williams

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Speaker 5: to rank ahead of him.

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Speaker 4: Now after the first year. That was solid, not quite

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Speaker 4: what other guys have.

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Speaker 5: He's clearly in that conversation as the one player because

1113
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 5: he can throw it, he can run, he has confidence,

1114
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 5: he's efficient, he has some swag and some dog to him,

1115
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 5: so he dominates too many situations when he has to

1116
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 5: come through. He's a real deal. And I say that

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00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 5: he's the real deal while also maintaining Daniels is the

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00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 5: real deal too. It's stylistically, what do you want Jayden

1119
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 5: Daniels to me? Is the best two way dual threat

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Speaker 5: quarterback that ever entered the league. Given his accomplishments and

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00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 5: success at the collegiate level before he goes to the pros,

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00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 5: no one has been able to do it like that

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Speaker 5: as a dual threat, but he was able to. And

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Speaker 5: you just look at those two quarterbacks and what they've done.

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Speaker 4: You love them.

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Speaker 5: But right now, Drake May has to rank ahead of

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00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 5: him because he is on fire, and he's been on

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00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: fire since the jump this season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to ask you a question, and you

1130
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: may defer, you may not want to answer, but I

1131
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: got to know this question because you're on the inside,

1132
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: you hang with the coaches, you work for an NFL team.

1133
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm looking at the New England Patriots. Right now,

1134
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: there's a real good chance they're going to be in

1135
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs, which is tremendous. Mike Rabel gets it done.

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00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: He's a tough, no nonsense kind of guy. He's a

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00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: little bit like Dan Campbell, kind of that kind of

1138
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: a personality. I'm not saying players are afraid of him,

1139
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: but he commands respect. And they're turning it around, no

1140
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: doubt about that. You've seen this before, coaches that get canned,

1141
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: that can't win, and a new guy comes in and

1142
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: that guy turns it around. The coach that got fired,

1143
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: if you've talked to them, seen them, or heard them

1144
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 2: in conversation, do they in fact hope that when they're

1145
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: replaced the team doesn't do any better than when they

1146
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: were there, because it makes them look worse. It does.

1147
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to mention names, but I'd like

1148
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: to know there's got to be coaches saying, Okay, you

1149
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: fired me, let's see what this guy could do. He's

1150
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: not going to do any better than me, and all

1151
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Bravell did. It's tough. I know it's

1152
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: a tough situation, but we'll see it.

1153
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 4: Is a tough situation.

1154
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 5: And when I just look at all of these things,

1155
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 5: I think you have to just kind of like figure

1156
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: out where to put the focus at and where to

1157
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 5: move on. I hate that the first part of your

1158
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 5: question get cut out because my thing is operating.

1159
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: So ask the question again, Andy.

1160
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you have a coach who comes in and turns

1161
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: things around, which Rabel's doing in New England looks like

1162
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: they're going to be a playoff team. And the guy

1163
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: that he replaced does that guy and you may have

1164
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: seen this in the past or heard rumors or talk

1165
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: to people, the guy he replaced, does he hope that

1166
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: the new guy coming in there has about the same

1167
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: amount of lack of success that he does, because it

1168
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: makes him look bad. He roots against you.

1169
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think it's anybody who

1170
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 5: has had to deal with an X, Like do you

1171
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 5: want your ex to have success? Do you want him

1172
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 5: or heard it have of like success after that relationship,

1173
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 5: Like it depends on how you're wired and if you

1174
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 5: truly love the franchise and love the organization and want

1175
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 5: the best for it. Yeah, you're like, Okay, Yeah, the

1176
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 5: guy I couldn't get it done, But the next guy

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00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 5: I hope he succeeds. Most of us are not built

1178
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 5: like that, so there's some bitterness to it, but it's

1179
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 5: kind of hard to move past situations if you're better

1180
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 5: on the inside. And I think what you should do

1181
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 5: as a former coach, So if I'm Robert Salad in

1182
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 5: San Francisco and I'm looking back at the Jets, you

1183
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 5: can snicker and laugh and be like, look, man, it

1184
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 5: wasn't all me.

1185
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 4: But what can I learn.

1186
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 5: From that previous situation, that previous relationship that can help

1187
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 5: me be better going forward. I think the fire coach

1188
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 5: has to do a lot of self reflection to make

1189
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 5: sure that he's a better version of himself the next

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00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 5: opportunity that he may get as a head coach.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've seen it firsthand because as much as I

1192
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: love Bill Belichick, I mean, obviously he's a little bit

1193
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: to the Patriots because he remember he said recently he

1194
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: won't let Patriots scouts scout North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Right.

1196
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: That tells you right there.

1197
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that does tell you right there.

1198
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Speaker 5: But I would say that you know, not surprisingly, but

1199
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Speaker 5: at some point, man, you got to let that go

1200
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 5: because the only person that you hurt when you hold

1201
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 5: all that in is you and so you can acknowledge

1202
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 5: that you didn't like it, you can acknowledge that it

1203
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 5: wasn't deserved.

1204
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: But it happened.

1205
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: And now that has happened, how can you move forward

1206
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 5: and get better from that situation? What can you learn

1207
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 5: from it to be better? But yeah, it hurts, like

1208
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 5: you're a human, Like I had a thing like I

1209
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 5: played for five different teams. I was cut five different times,

1210
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 5: maybe six times, and all those other teams, every time

1211
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 5: I left, I left the gear. I did not want

1212
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 5: to wear the gear from not on the team. I

1213
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 5: don't want the gear, so I would leave all this

1214
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 5: stuff behind and I had to separate and distance myself

1215
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 5: from that, And in time, I learned to let go

1216
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 5: of those hardened feelings towards those previous squads because it happens.

1217
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: That's part of the business, and you got to be

1218
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 5: able to chalk it up. And I think for all

1219
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 5: those coaches, they know what they are signed up for

1220
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 5: when they stepped in, and they know how transient it

1221
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 5: is and cutthroat. So you just have to know what

1222
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 5: you have to deal with and you have to find

1223
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 5: a way to have to come to terms and be

1224
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 5: at peace with it all.

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00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear you saying it's so honest

1226
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: that you all but and I will say this, if

1227
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: you're a manager and or a coach college level or

1228
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: a professional level today, you get hired, the clock starts

1229
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: ticking as to when you're going to get fired. That's

1230
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: just the nature of the business. It really is.

1231
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it always is, it always will be.

1232
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 5: And so you have to be mature enough to operate

1233
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 5: in that space. And you hope that you can operate

1234
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 5: in that space without bitterness or anything like that.

1235
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: All right, I want to throw something out of you

1236
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: talk about meltdown, we talk about being on the hot seat.

1237
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: Let's all meltdowns right now. I watched that Giants Broncos

1238
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: game last week and the Giants played the Eagles today.

1239
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: Broncos got thirty three points to the fourth quarter. They

1240
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: beat the Giants thirty three to thirty two. And I

1241
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: still personally have confidence in the Giants. I think there's

1242
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: a different ball club right now with Jackson and Darted quarterback.

1243
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: Got a little more energy right now. They believe in themselves.

1244
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: But what has Jackson Dart done under center that Russell

1245
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: Wilson didn't do or couldn't do at the quarterback position.

1246
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 5: I just think he has the energy and the juice

1247
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 5: and the team believes in him. And some of that

1248
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 5: is the connectivity between generations, right. So Jackson Dart is younger,

1249
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 5: the locker room is young. Russell Wilson is old. Old

1250
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 5: by locker room standards, may not listen to the same music,

1251
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 5: may not laugh at the same jokes, may not have

1252
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 5: the same interest as the young guys. Well, how does

1253
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 5: he relate? What's to relate ability? Because ultimately team sports,

1254
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 5: you're playing for your teammates, and if you don't give

1255
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 5: players a reason to want to play hard for you

1256
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 5: or for you to play hard for them, it is

1257
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: hard for it to work. Jackson dark comes in younger generation,

1258
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 5: hip cool blends in well, and the locker room gets

1259
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 5: along with everybody. You see the excitement from the team

1260
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 5: when he's on the field. That's the biggest difference in

1261
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 5: terms of playing in numbers or whatever. The numbers are fine,

1262
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 5: but it isn't like he's lightning in the world. But

1263
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: it's more how you feel or how they feel when

1264
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 5: he's in the game compared to how they feel when

1265
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson's in the game.

1266
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: I'm glad you answered that. I love I love his energy.

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00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 4: I really do.

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00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: He's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman with broadcasting live from

1269
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. To get Bucky at Bucket

1270
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: Brooks at Andy Furman FSR or eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 2: nine on Fox, which translates to eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine six sixty three sixty nine. The playing game coming

1273
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 2: up later in this hour. But are they for real

1274
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: or is it fool's gold?

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00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 4: That's next.

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1280
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: All right, they meet again in different uniforms. That's right

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Speaker 2: around the corner. It's about twenty seven minutes past the hour.

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00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. It's

1283
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, who alive from the Fox

1284
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: And you know what.

1286
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Speaker 2: It's time for the tire IRAQ player today.

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Speaker 10: Two one Dodgers, two outspases empty in the seventh gone

1288
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 10: at two to two. Monsey swings it pushes a high

1289
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 10: fly ball left field, carrying back. Does it have enough.

1290
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 10: This boy is gone. Max Monsey says, one into the

1291
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 10: Blue Jay bullpen, the second best of the seventh inning

1292
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 10: and the Dodgers have doubled their lead.

1293
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: How do you like that? Max Munsey solo home run

1294
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers win that game last night Titus Series

1295
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: with Toronto courtesy of a M five to seventy LA Sports.

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Speaker 2: should be. Okay, we got the Blame game coming up

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Speaker 2: in about ten twelve minutes from now. And believe it

1304
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: or not, Bucky Brooks, we're halfway through the NFL season.

1305
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: It's unreal. Really you wait, wait, wait, now it's halfway done.

1306
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Halfway mark. Amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is amazing, kind of crazy that we're finally

1308
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 5: to this point in terms of getting there, because this

1309
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 5: is the point when we get to the halfway mark

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01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 5: where all the coaches, particularly around there, by week they

1311
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 5: go from here's what we think we were going to be,

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Speaker 5: now this is who we need to be going forward.

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Speaker 4: So you make the.

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Speaker 5: Adjustments, You make sure that the right players get the touches,

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 5: you put the right people in the lineup, You understand

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01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 5: which plays work best for your personnel, and then you

1317
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 5: stick to the script. And if you do that, you

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Speaker 5: can have a lot of success.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's even more amazing this halfway through

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts. They're six and one, the NFL's best record,

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: and their number one in scory at thirty three point

1322
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: one points a game, their number one in yards per

1323
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: play six point four, the number one in rushing touchdowns

1324
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: per game two point three, and the number one and

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Speaker 2: protecting the quarterback only six sacks allowed. Today, the Colts

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Speaker 2: host the one in six Titans. That would make the

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01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: Colts seven and one today, and I got to say

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Speaker 2: the MVP candidate, at least one of them, would be

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01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: their running back Jonathan Taylor, who's basically helped carrying that

1330
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: offense on what a what's the situation with their quarterback

1331
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Speaker 2: Danny Dimes. I mean, I'm shocked I'm shocked with the Colts,

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Speaker 2: but I couldn't be happier for their defensive coordinator lou Anniromo,

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: who was let go by the Bengals last year as

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01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 2: the so called scapegoat. He's turned it around defensively for

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Speaker 2: them and this team six to one. They're for real,

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Speaker 2: aren't they? Or is it just fools gold?

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Speaker 5: No, they're for real. I mean they're one of the

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Speaker 5: best teams in football. Like, they're a really really good

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01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 5: football team. They do it by committee. They have a

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Speaker 5: bunch of different playmakers. They can run the football effectively

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 5: with one of the best running backs in the game,

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Speaker 5: and then they have pass catches galore on the outside

1343
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 5: and the rookie Tyler Warren has certainly helped them stabilize

1344
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 5: that offense. Then on defense, Lou and a. Room is

1345
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: a whiz. He does a great job changing up schemes.

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01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 5: He has the personnel at his disposal to allow some

1347
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 5: of those ex'es and o's to come to life. And overall,

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Speaker 5: when I look at this team, the chemistry is right.

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Speaker 4: The air team. That's gonna be a tough team to

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Speaker 4: deal with down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me talk a little bit a little at

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01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: the room. Remember several years ago his name was out

1353
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: there for the head coaching job in Arizona. Now is

1354
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: it like the Peter principle that if you're a good

1355
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: classroom teacher, you may not be a good principal. You

1356
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: got to stay in your lane. Is he going to

1357
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 2: be a coordinator the rest of his life? Well? Can

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Speaker 2: he in fact be a head coach? Should he get

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Speaker 2: a nod to get a shot to be a head coach?

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Speaker 4: He's been running long enough. I just don't think he

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 4: has his name right now, has enough sex appeal.

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Speaker 5: For whatever reason, He's a really good coach. He's been

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01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 5: really good wherever he's been. People that watch him and

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01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 5: study his defenses have a ton of respect for what

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Speaker 5: he does, and he should get that kind of attention.

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Speaker 4: Just hasn't. And I don't know why this is weird?

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Speaker 2: I know why? Can I tell you why? Am my

1368
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: warp logic? I think defensive coordinators have a lesser chance

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Speaker 2: of getting ahead coaching job than offensive coordinators because it's

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Speaker 2: an offensive game, agreed. I mean, Brian Callahan was the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals. He got the job

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Speaker 2: in Tennessee. Now we got the Ax, he's gone, But

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Speaker 2: I think offensive coordinators have a better shot because people

1374
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: want points and they're putting points on the board, and

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Speaker 2: the NFL is an offensive game. He's a defensive guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to get it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, it could be hard for him to

1378
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Speaker 4: get it.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why is because you talk about an

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Speaker 5: offensive game, people worry about the continuity with the quarterback,

1381
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 5: and if you have a different offensive coordinator changing all

1382
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 5: the time, the quarterback is going to be thrown in flux.

1383
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 5: By hiring an offensive minded head coach, in theory, you

1384
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 5: eliminate that. In theory, that guy's always going to be

1385
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 5: around because he's a head coach, so he's there. But

1386
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: I still don't believe that makes him the best candidates

1387
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 5: a offensive mind the guy because BNA coach is more

1388
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 5: than about the quarterback, is about the entire team, and

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Speaker 5: I think we have made it too much about the quarterback,

1390
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 5: even though it's the biggest name and it's hottest topic

1391
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 5: or whatever. You got to hire the best coach and

1392
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 5: then figure it out from there.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned that because when you

1394
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: see the promos on TV, they don't talk about Titans

1395
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: playing Colts, they'll say it's Danny Dimes against cam Ward.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do this quarterback versus quarterback. And they

1397
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: didn't even mention the team's name and then talk about

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Speaker 2: cam Ward for a second. The number one pick in

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Speaker 2: the National Football League's draft last year coming out of

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Speaker 2: Florida Miami, he has a turnover in every game and

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Speaker 2: I think that if he really and truly wanted to

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01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: do something nice, he should get on the horn. And

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Speaker 2: thanks to Door Sanders, because coming out in the draft,

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01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: there wasn't much talk about him. Usually the number one pick, quarterback,

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01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: number one pick, they got a lot of talk about,

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Speaker 2: a lot of hype. Wasn't much hype with him, So

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Speaker 2: I don't think the expectations maybe for the fans with

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01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: a high but the expectations national world is big for

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Speaker 2: cam Warners. That would be for another quarterback being the

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Speaker 2: number one pick. I think he was lucky in that

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01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: regard because he's not doing well at all. Not to

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Speaker 2: say he may not turn it around, but he's having

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Speaker 2: a disastrous season.

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Speaker 5: Leah, it hasn't It hasn't been great for them, and

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Speaker 5: I would say with cam Ward, everything around him.

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Speaker 4: Has not been great, right.

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Speaker 5: The coach, Brian Callahan appeared to be a little overwhelmed

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Speaker 5: by the responsibilities and all the things that went with that.

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Speaker 4: And then you have a young.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback who isn't playing with the best personnel around him,

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Speaker 5: so all of it kind of throws his performance into flux.

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Speaker 5: That said, it's about trying to figure out how he

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Speaker 5: can finish the season strong and how he could take

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Speaker 5: the things that he learns his rookie season to come

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Speaker 5: back and have a better sophomore season. But it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be a new coaching staff in those things. But this

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Speaker 5: is an exploratory phase for him and his career. What

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 5: can I do well? How did these people attack me?

1429
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 5: What did I learn from the way that these different

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Speaker 5: coordinators attack me? And it should be diligently taking notes

1431
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Speaker 5: in studying himself to get ready for what next season

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Speaker 5: should bring.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Can he in fact turn it around?

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Speaker 2: Because I look at Danny Dimes. I mean this guy,

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Speaker 2: they wanted to ride him out of town on a

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Speaker 2: rail in New York. He's going to be the comeback

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Speaker 2: player of the year this year, no doubt, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he is. And some of that is.

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Speaker 5: I would say just look about product of being wanted

1440
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 5: and appreciate it and having someone who is a bit

1441
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Speaker 5: of a quarterback whisperer put some things together to allow

1442
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Speaker 5: you to succeed. And when you do that, you've see

1443
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 5: that most of these quarterbacks are system quarterbacks, and it's

1444
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 5: about trying to figure out what is the best system

1445
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 5: for the personnel that you have. And right now they

1446
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 5: have a system that really works for the personnel when

1447
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 5: it comes to Danny Dimes and the people that are

1448
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 5: around him.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm going to move along here because I

1450
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: said they meet again. I'm talking about the Packers are

1451
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: playing the Steelers today. When Michael Parsons was in Dallas

1452
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers was the quarterback in Green Bay. Believe

1453
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: it or not, I read this to the other day.

1454
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was impressed with Michael parsons play. He asked

1455
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: for his jersey after the game. Can you believe that

1456
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: that was back after Aaron Rodgers had won back to

1457
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: back MVP awards in twenty and twenty one, and he

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01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: said he was marveled by the then twenty three year

1459
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 2: old Parsons before the matchup as for his jersey after

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Speaker 2: the game, which is somewhat. Is that unusual in the

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01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: National Football League that they do that a lot.

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01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 4: I mean people that ask for jerseys all the time. Now,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's.

1464
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Speaker 2: Kind who has for your jersey?

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01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 4: I want to know nobody you're giving you nobody nobody.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't do that back then. So no one

1468
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 4: has ever asked nobody.

1469
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey wants your jersey, Magic Mark wants your jersey?

1470
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 4: Nobody want And that's funny.

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's that's funny. No, it's it's just a

1472
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 5: funny thing. Yeah, that's a new that's a new deal

1473
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 5: where you have.

1474
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 4: People exchanging jerseys and the picture moment, the photo op

1475
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 4: that everyone has taken advantage of. Yeah, that's that's all

1476
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 4: brand new.

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 5: That's not uh, that's not something that existed way way

1478
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 5: way back.

1479
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: Well, certainly Aaron Rodgers is gonna be somewhat motivated, maybe

1480
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 2: to another level today to beat this former Green Bay team.

1481
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: They got to contain Michael Parsons today. Parsons had three

1482
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: sacks in Week seven. But the question I have where

1483
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: was that great steal of defense on Thursday night in

1484
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: Cincinnati a week ago? Because I didn't see it when

1485
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: when the Bengals beat those stealers that night with with

1486
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco, what happened? I mean, this is supposed to

1487
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: be so defensively tough. Didn't happen that night?

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01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know, Like it's it's weird to

1489
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,839
Speaker 5: see this go down like that. Yeah, because Joe Flecco

1490
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 5: had his way with him, had a lot of success,

1491
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 5: moved the wall up and down the field.

1492
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 4: All of that is.

1493
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 5: You know, it's just it's just one of those things

1494
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 5: you just are We're just not used to seeing Pittsburgh,

1495
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 5: particularly on defense, fall off, and they didn't play well.

1496
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 4: They certainly fell off a little bit, no.

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. I mean, and I have to say

1498
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: right now, Jordan Love, he's having a heck of a year.

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Speaker 2: He really is one of the best quarterbacks in the

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: National Football.

1501
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 4: League this year.

1502
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: He really is.

1503
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, without question, he is.

1504
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: I'm surprised, I really. Maybe there's something to be said

1505
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: about a quarterback learning the position rather than coming right

1506
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 2: in and playing. That's what Green Bay has done. They've

1507
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: done it with their last three quarterbacks. They stay on

1508
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Speaker 2: the sidelines, hold the clipboard, see what's going on. Aaron

1509
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 2: Rodgers did it. They all do it, but the other

1510
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: teams like can't. Maybe cam Wood will be better served

1511
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: if they had a veteran quarterback playing in Tennessee and

1512
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 2: he just learning and learning the ropes. In the National Football.

1513
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 5: League, most people would be better if the most quarterbacks

1514
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 5: would be better if they didn't have to go in

1515
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 5: right away and play.

1516
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,440
Speaker 4: However, the buzz.

1517
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 5: The energy from the fan base makes it where it's

1518
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 5: almost impossible to operate under that slow cook premise. Everyone

1519
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 5: wants to see right away, but unfortunately, when you put

1520
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 5: your young quarterback out there, the first thing that they say,

1521
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 5: if they have some missteps, oh, he can't play, he sucks,

1522
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,839
Speaker 5: he's a bus he's this, he's that. So you don't

1523
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 5: have the freedom to develop the way that you wanted to.

1524
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 4: Develop because it comes quickly.

1525
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,879
Speaker 5: The judgment, the criticism, the willingness to move on happens quickly.

1526
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 5: And you think in a league where you're getting more

1527
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 5: inexperienced players that we would have more patience in watching

1528
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 5: the development.

1529
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, if speaking of the Bengals that home

1530
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: today against the Jets, Jets zero and seven, Bengals are

1531
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: really right back in the thick of things, in that

1532
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: division at three and four. The question I have right

1533
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: now is the fact that number one, Aaron Glenn, the

1534
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: coach of that just kind of waited and waited till

1535
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: the eleventh hour to decide who's going to be his quarterback.

1536
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: Toron Taylor is not going to quarterback. Justin Fields is quarterbacking.

1537
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: I don't think that's good news for the Bengals because

1538
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: Justin Fields could beat you with his legs, with Toron

1539
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 2: Taylor could not. I think the Jets have a better

1540
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: chance of winning with Justin Fields. Agreed.

1541
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, I don't understand why they had this whole

1542
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 5: thing about the quarterback right run. If you paid Justin

1543
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 5: Fields forty million dollars in the off season and you're

1544
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 5: already ready to pour the plug after eight games, you

1545
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 5: probably made a poor decision in the offseason because you

1546
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 5: had an opportunity to really dig into all of the

1547
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,839
Speaker 5: things that he is and is bringing to the table

1548
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 5: and you can make an offense.

1549
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 4: So to me, it shows.

1550
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 5: Shaky leadership that you're already trying to kind of get

1551
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 5: out from up under it, regardless of what the ownership says. Now,

1552
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 5: you go through all of that, you go through this

1553
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 5: quote unquote quarterback battle, and you're back to the same

1554
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 5: guy as the starter. How is he supposed to feel.

1555
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 5: Is he supposed to be like, oh man, they really

1556
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 5: support me, I'm really good. Let me go give it

1557
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 5: my all? Or does he know what it is? It's

1558
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 5: a very difficult thing. And as much as I say

1559
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 5: I say that it's business, you have to get used

1560
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 5: to it. For quarterbacks, who are typically more temperamental than

1561
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 5: any other spot, it's a weird deal to ask this guy.

1562
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 4: Okay, man, we hate you, but we need you to

1563
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 4: start for us.

1564
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: Right I tell you why this can be closer than

1565
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: people think. I really do. I mean, I think the

1566
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: Jets are down, down and out, but I think that

1567
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: right now they could come in here and surprise the

1568
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: Bengals take could be a trap game, but we'll see. Okay.

1569
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,479
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1570
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1572
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1577
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: the air. All right, now it is time, because we

1578
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 2: love this time, it's time to let us some steam.

1579
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: You know what that means, don't you. I mean, it's

1580
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: the blame game. This is freaking next. All right, the

1581
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: blame game coming right up. This is Fox Football Sunday

1582
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: and Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firmer.

1583
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: We're live from the Fox Spots Radio studios. And by

1584
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: the way, twelve minutes from an hour, which would be

1585
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: the top of the hour, which would be eight am

1586
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 2: on the East Coast Top of the hour, Mike Harmon

1587
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: and Greg Coachsell will be on these airways on Fox

1588
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, So who do not go anywhere there. And

1589
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: before we get into the blame game, Bucket Brooks, I

1590
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: want to say one thing, and if you don't like it,

1591
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Okay, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say football.

1592
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: Football may not be that difficult of a game. You know,

1593
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: people look at the game, just look at these athletes. Oh,

1594
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 2: they're unbelievable. And I say to myself, it's not that

1595
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: big a deal. You know why you got a forty

1596
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: year old guy like Joe Flacco comes into Cincinnati on

1597
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: a Tuesday, plays that Sunday against Green Bay and there's

1598
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 2: an outstanding job in the second half. It ain't that

1599
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: hard and ain't that hard. Really, he's forty years old.

1600
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: He could get it done. Bucky us, you wasting your

1601
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: time talking to me. You should be back on the

1602
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: field playing. You could do it. You can do it,

1603
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: Bucky you.

1604
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no no no.

1605
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 5: I think the thing that Joe Flacco has done is

1606
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 5: he's shown us that older guys, if protected, can't play

1607
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 5: in certain systems. And he certainly has had a level

1608
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 5: of success being able to do. You know what he's

1609
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 5: shown in Cincinnati and some of these other places. He

1610
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 5: can't ignite an offense quickly for a little bit to

1611
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 5: kind of get going.

1612
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 4: So it's it's interesting to see it play out.

1613
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 5: And for the Browns to give the Bengals a quarterback

1614
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 5: kind of crazy.

1615
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: A starting quarterback was started opening day for them.

1616
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, kind of nuts, kind of nice to see.

1617
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: All right, now here's time for the blame game.

1618
01:15:58,840 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 6: You ruin me.

1619
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. What is

1620
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: all your fault.

1621
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who knows he's a liar.

1622
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 6: That's why there's the blame game. Let's figure out how little.

1623
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: Blame a liar. Go ahead, BRAI, he's a liar.

1624
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 3: He is definitely a liar. Okay. Sean Payton had this

1625
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 3: whole back and forth with Russell Wilson after that Broncos

1626
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 3: in Giants game last week. Andy, who do you blame?

1627
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blame Sean Payton. I love Sean Payton because

1628
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: he likes skyline chili all right, every time he comes

1629
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: to Cincinnati because he used to coach at Miami of Ohio.

1630
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: He's an assistant coach there, love skyline Chili. I love

1631
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: Sean Payton. He's a good man. But you know sometimes

1632
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: he's just gonna, like Bucky says, let it go. You

1633
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 2: gotta let it go. We talk about that. You know

1634
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: you're a loser when.

1635
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: You do that.

1636
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 2: Talk about coaches that get fired, rufe for the guy

1637
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: to replaced it to do poorly. No, it only hurts you.

1638
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 2: We talked about Bill Belichick. He didn't let these scouts

1639
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: from New England come to North Carolina. It makes you

1640
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: look petty, It does Sean, let it go. He's not

1641
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: there anymore. So it's on you, Sean.

1642
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, it's on Sean Payton. He shouldn't engage in that.

1643
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 4: Like Russell.

1644
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 5: Wilson doesn't play form anymore. He obviously didn't like Russell.

1645
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 5: That's why he moved on from him. I mean, let's

1646
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 5: sleeping dogs lie.

1647
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 4: It was unnecessary to take a shot at Russell, even

1648
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 4: though he did not saying he was just talking about

1649
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 4: dark He knows, man, he has to treat Russell with

1650
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 4: more class and respect. Russell had a very productive year

1651
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 4: his final season for him.

1652
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 5: So even though you may not like him his personality

1653
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 5: or whatever, take the high road.

1654
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 2: Right And if we should have a split up, I

1655
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: would never say a bad thing about Bucket Brooks My

1656
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: hand to God, my hand to go, because I love

1657
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 2: him to death. I'm saying it right now.

1658
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 3: Is anyone surprised about Sean Payton, just like with the

1659
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 3: whole bounty gate drama, you know, I mean, he just

1660
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 3: has a lot to say, you guys, I'm always on

1661
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 3: his side, Hype just.

1662
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: Saying, oh push you in New Orleans Saints fan when

1663
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: he coached the says, because you're like a Homer. You're

1664
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: a homer, you really are.

1665
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 3: I really am one hundred percent. In that same game,

1666
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: the Giants had a melt down, losing thirty three to

1667
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 3: thirty two and gave up thirty three points in that

1668
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 3: final quarter. Bucky, who do you blame for that?

1669
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 4: Man?

1670
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 5: It's a little bit of everybody. It's a defense because

1671
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 5: the personnel has to hold up. You got to be

1672
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 5: able to finish the game out. But then offensively, you

1673
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 5: got to be able to make sure that you play

1674
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 5: comfanery football to not put the defense in that position.

1675
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 4: Everyone is to blame when you lose a game like that.

1676
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:31,879
Speaker 3: Andy.

1677
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: You know, I hate to do this, but I do

1678
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: agree with Bucky Brooks because you had a defense had

1679
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: a bag meltdown, But if the offense could have made

1680
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: a couple of first downs over there, the game would

1681
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 2: have been over. So it's everybody's fault. You know, you

1682
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: lose as a team, you win, there's a team. It's

1683
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: everybody's fault, all right.

1684
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: Brian Daball and Cam Scataboo were fined for those concussion

1685
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 3: protocol violations last week. Who do you blame? Andy?

1686
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 2: I guess you gotta brame Brian Dable I mean, either

1687
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: he's a fool it didn't all or he's hating the information.

1688
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you gotta blame him if you know.

1689
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: Anytime there's a problem like that, it starts at the top.

1690
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: He say, why are the Jets bad?

1691
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 6: Oh?

1692
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: Whatdy Johnson? He owns the Jets. He he just made poored.

1693
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 2: This is his bad leadership, so bad leadership he had

1694
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: Brian Dabole. But I buck, I've never heard about that

1695
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 2: finding for the concussion particle. Before it looked like scattab

1696
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: was pretty good. He was doing like some assaults on

1697
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: the sidelines and twists and everything else.

1698
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like you get fine because you're not

1699
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 5: supposed to go up under the blue tin and do

1700
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 5: all that other stuff.

1701
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 4: You're supposed to make sure everyone is checked out. They

1702
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 4: just didn't go through it.

1703
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 5: In their rush to get their players back on the field,

1704
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 5: they didn't check off the.

1705
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:41,879
Speaker 3: Proper steps, all Righty Jacksonville gave Travis Hunter fourteen targets

1706
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: last week, twice as many as Brian Thomas Junior got.

1707
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 3: Who do you blame, Bucky?

1708
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 5: Look, I blame Travis Hunter for being so good that

1709
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 5: you have to give it to him and he I mean,

1710
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 5: it is obvious that he is the juice when he

1711
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 5: has the ball in his hands. Brian Thomas Junior had

1712
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 5: dealt with some drops, some other guys that dealt with drops.

1713
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 5: Travis Hunt has been the most consistent when it comes

1714
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 5: to catching the ball.

1715
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 4: That's where you have more opportunities.

1716
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 2: Andy, I love Travis Hunt, given twenty eight targets. I

1717
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: don't care. I like Brian Thomas. He's a hell of

1718
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: a player. But you know what, the guy's open giving

1719
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: the ball. That's what it is. Look at Jamar Chase

1720
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: just giving the ball. He's always open. He's like seven

1721
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Speaker 2: to eleven, always open.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 3: So it's fun.

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Speaker 2: Good job guy, all right, no more, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you mean we're done?

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01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 5: Done?

1727
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 3: You're always done?

1728
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh well, I didn't realize. All right, Buck, you have

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Speaker 2: a great week. We'll see you next week, and of

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Speaker 2: course stay tuned. Greg Cosell and Mike Harmon on Fox

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Speaker 2: next