WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2021 NFL MegaPod Conference Championships Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Check it down man now down Man Thursday morning, January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and twenty one. Is that a pound room though

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<v Speaker 1>that was yesterday? It's kill Alexander. This is a mega pod,

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<v Speaker 1>the Beating the Book megapod for Championship Week in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League. We do not have Mike Palm on

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<v Speaker 1>the show today. Uh, Mikey are our staple right here

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<v Speaker 1>alongside at the D where we broadcast live from here, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the D downtown in Las Vegas. Mikey is in a

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<v Speaker 1>four hour budget meeting. Um that that does not sound

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<v Speaker 1>fun at all. I'm gonna check every line item for

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. Todd Wishnev is here, the other staple of

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<v Speaker 1>the show from his mom's cork attic in Pittsburgh, PA.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing, Toddy? Hi? Hi? Todd has his face

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<v Speaker 1>turned to the left because he's sweating it under not

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<v Speaker 1>really a sweat so far. Valencia Knowlsasuna in La Liga

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<v Speaker 1>nil nil through twenty minutes? Make it through twenty in minutes?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the under here? Two and a half? No? I

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<v Speaker 1>bet the team total moses soon under under a half

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<v Speaker 1>plus one sixty. But don't take anything I say about

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<v Speaker 1>soccer seriously because I don't know a darn thing about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think anybody was. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anybody was. And so we have two guests today, which

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<v Speaker 1>we love because we we go through all of the

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<v Speaker 1>guests we had during the regular season and we only

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<v Speaker 1>want the best for the playoffs. So we have to

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<v Speaker 1>today from Canada, and he will tell us from exactly

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<v Speaker 1>wearing Canada, because I can't remember what he already told me.

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<v Speaker 1>They are snowed in from the Simple Handicap podcast, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just a phenomenal podcast. Is Adam churn Off, How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Adam doing well? And it is Southern Alberta

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<v Speaker 1>And snowed in is an understatement which snow are we talking?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a good amount of snow, but it's that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sort of like melted for a few days

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<v Speaker 1>and then froze over. So it's like a combination of

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<v Speaker 1>like the really hard ice, but it's the type of

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<v Speaker 1>ice where you slip, it's like jagged enough that it'll

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<v Speaker 1>it'll it'll leave you on the injured reserved US for

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<v Speaker 1>a week or two. So you can't really leave the

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<v Speaker 1>house to to uh liberally no, and if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta kind of hunt down the sidewalks, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hit on miss and on which ones will

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<v Speaker 1>be clear and stuff. But it's just a giant mess

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Wow, Southern Alberta just for those of us

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous Americans who don't know Canadian geography, Like, how many

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<v Speaker 1>miles away from Edmonton, Alberta? Is that about two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half hours south of Edmonton, about ten minutes outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Calgary, so a few hours north of If you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the northernmost point in Montana and then drive

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<v Speaker 1>for about four hours, you'll kind of get to where

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<v Speaker 1>I am. Wow. All right, now, I know you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching while Todd is watching Loliga, You're watching lpg A

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<v Speaker 1>golf and can you stay there? Well? And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>is a good one though, Yeah, because the PGA in

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<v Speaker 1>Januine February they do these ridiculous multiple course events and

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<v Speaker 1>I just find them in absolute pain to price and

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<v Speaker 1>come up with anything good for matchups because they split

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<v Speaker 1>the early and late waves between the courses and it

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<v Speaker 1>just becomes a headache. So for for the better a

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<v Speaker 1>part of January and February until the PGA gets in

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<v Speaker 1>a regular schedule. I mixed in some euro Tour and LPGA.

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<v Speaker 1>So this morning in Florida. I love it. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who doesn't hesitate betting on golf. It's my co

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<v Speaker 1>host on Primetime Action on MSG plus. You know when

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<v Speaker 1>we're on MSG plus, it's Matt Brown. How you doing MATEO,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I mean this is uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you and I've talked about it a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different times. It really doesn't matter who comes out

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<v Speaker 1>on top of either one of these games. Is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a super Bowl that I'm gonna be looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>We got narratives out the wazoo no matter how it

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<v Speaker 1>ends up. So uh, this is a fun weekend regardless.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing ever goes in the Wazoo. You ever notice that

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about out there? Wo Let's start with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay, Green Bay. When we talk about these, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about stuff that happened last week as well. Pardon me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm emotional. Green Bay is a Green Bay right now

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<v Speaker 1>as we do this, and we're doing this again on

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday morning. Let me have my internet. But Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>is a three let's call it extra juice three point favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>With extra Juice, there are three and a half but

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<v Speaker 1>let's call it minus three minus one five is consensus

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<v Speaker 1>total fifty one and a half. Tampa Bay is here

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<v Speaker 1>by virtue of their plus four in turnover win driven

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<v Speaker 1>win over the New Orleans Saints at New Orleans last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty to twenty. Three of those four turnovers that the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints committed led directly to scores touchdowns that is by

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<v Speaker 1>the Buccaneers. The fourth actually just ended the game, so

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't get a chance to capitalize on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was really the story of the game in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. Is here they're thirty two to eighteen win

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<v Speaker 1>over the Rams, covering in the process, um really maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just to simplify the better football team, and the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>were diminished. Aaron Donald was not his true self. That

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<v Speaker 1>was obviously huge in that game. The Cooper Cup absence,

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<v Speaker 1>which we learned of officially ninety minutes before that game,

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<v Speaker 1>that was huge. That moved the line from six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half to seven right before game time. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we have here, Tampa Bay at Green Bay, as

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Bourman used to call it, the Bay of pay

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay three point favorites with extra juice fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, Adam, because you have the most snow.

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<v Speaker 1>We start with you, how do you see this? So

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of parallels, I think between both

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<v Speaker 1>of these games, because each of the championship games have

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty clear anchor to the matchup of the two

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<v Speaker 1>teams playing earlier in the season that I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have a reference point. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>also what we saw last in both of these games

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend with all four of the teams, and so,

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<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned, the Buccaneers obviously benefited from a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of turnovers um but like I look at that game

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<v Speaker 1>and I was holding a Buck's money line ticket, and

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<v Speaker 1>when they were down twenty thirteen and the Saints were

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<v Speaker 1>driving across midfield late in the third quarter, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was dead because up to that point, like Brady

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<v Speaker 1>was not moving to football. Their third down play calling

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<v Speaker 1>was bizarre, and like it was the Saints that were

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<v Speaker 1>really clicking. They were across midfields forty five and then

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<v Speaker 1>the fumble happens, and from that point on the game

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<v Speaker 1>entirely turned around. And so I could those turnovers led

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<v Speaker 1>to points and the Buccaneers ultimately end up getting that win.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think somewhat sort of overshadowed in this is

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<v Speaker 1>the last two games in the playoffs, like the Buccaneers,

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<v Speaker 1>as you well know, against Washington that was Heineke's first

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<v Speaker 1>ever start, and like there were wide receivers running wide

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<v Speaker 1>open all game long against this Buccaneer secondary, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Buccaneer secondary that in the second half of the

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<v Speaker 1>season really regrets. Defensively, for the first half of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>they were top eight in both pass and rush defensive

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<v Speaker 1>success rate down the stretch. In the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, including the playoffs, all the way down to

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth against the past and against the rush, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a significant step back. And I can't help but feel

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers offense, as great as it has been all season,

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<v Speaker 1>is still like a little bit under priced, Like we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the market move against him now for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of consecutive weeks. And I don't know if that's like

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<v Speaker 1>part of the hesitancy that we've sort of learned from

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay the last few seasons, especially last year, where

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<v Speaker 1>they were that team in the playoffs that had all

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<v Speaker 1>the one score victories. They had everybody looking for reasons

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<v Speaker 1>to ultimately oppose them. And now we're sort of in

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<v Speaker 1>a spot where they may be treated the same. But

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it's a team that's done everything as well

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<v Speaker 1>as you can expect from a team. And Gil, you

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<v Speaker 1>had Alan on your show to talk college basketball like

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, like two years ago, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to and something that he said that has

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<v Speaker 1>always sort of stuck with me is how we evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>teams who get out to big leads early versus teams

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<v Speaker 1>that end up winning and have results going their way

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<v Speaker 1>because of things that happened late. And he was making

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<v Speaker 1>the case that the team that gets out to a

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<v Speaker 1>lead early tends to be more valuable in the better

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<v Speaker 1>team than teams that are winning games but doing so

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<v Speaker 1>in tight contests are coming from behind late. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>this season, in all but one game, have got out

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<v Speaker 1>to a double digit lead at some point. In fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>of the seventeen games it had a double digit lead

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half or after the first drive in

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<v Speaker 1>the third quarter. And so like, it's a team that

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<v Speaker 1>has relied on the script with La fleur a ton

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<v Speaker 1>since he's been the head coach, and they're extremely good

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<v Speaker 1>at executing it. And I look at the Buccaneers with bowls,

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<v Speaker 1>they're super predictable in their game planning, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>their bottom eight in the league for first half points

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<v Speaker 1>allowed and first half yards per played allowed. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a spot where I think the Packers have seen them before.

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<v Speaker 1>They got out to a double digit lead despite losing

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<v Speaker 1>by in that first matchup. I think the Packers get

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<v Speaker 1>out to an early lead. It's road game number three

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<v Speaker 1>in a row for the Bucks on the road, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the Packers ultimately hold on to that

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<v Speaker 1>and the reluctance of the back door I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>is necessarily here, despite how good Brady and the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>offense may seem, because I think that they have more

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<v Speaker 1>issues than we're sort of being led on to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty happy here to take the Packers at

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<v Speaker 1>minus three where that number came down to, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would be happy to take them at three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half even money if you can get that this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you also doing a first half bet based on

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<v Speaker 1>what you were just saying at him? Yeah, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half right now, so anything less than three,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's worthwhile. And if you're getting them in

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<v Speaker 1>the first quarter to it's certainly worth to look as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think how however you want to play it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to double it up between the first

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<v Speaker 1>half in the full game, or you want to play

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<v Speaker 1>just the first half. Um, either ways, more than fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm happy to have both in the accounts. I

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<v Speaker 1>am doing both of those things myself. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to thank you for for your recollection

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<v Speaker 1>of that Alan Boston interview and only remembering that part

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<v Speaker 1>of it because I think it went off the rails

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times, if not, um if not four

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<v Speaker 1>times on that particular episode. Always love having him on,

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<v Speaker 1>but he does either their nuggets like that that definitely

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<v Speaker 1>stick in one's brain. Matt Brown, uh co host a

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<v Speaker 1>prime time Action on MSG Plus, who joined us really

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<v Speaker 1>early in this football season. Your thoughts on Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, Sir? Yeah, I mean, like Adam said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have the games in week six to go

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<v Speaker 1>and look back, and you know, I'm sure everybody here's

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<v Speaker 1>has gone back and look at those and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the individual statistics of these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>four awesome quarterbacks in four of the five top rated

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks according to Pro Football Focus on the whole season,

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<v Speaker 1>and here we are at the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and four of those five are still alive here, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it basically was all four quarterbacks the worst

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<v Speaker 1>statistical output essentially the entire season. Rodgers sixteen of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and sixty, no touchdowns, two interceptions, and and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that when you really dig into

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<v Speaker 1>that was the fact that he was sacked four times

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<v Speaker 1>in that game. He was hit thirteen times in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>They blitzed him on twenty one of his dropbacks, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the real difference maker here. Now, what we

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<v Speaker 1>have to try to decide is that was that just

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<v Speaker 1>a complete and utter operation that Rogers was bothered so

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<v Speaker 1>much by all of that pressure because he is actually

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at this Bucks defense. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>blitz again. They blitz forty you know, forty two overt

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, right, so they're they're going to come

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<v Speaker 1>after him yet again. But you look at Rogers and

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<v Speaker 1>he is actually one of the very best guys against

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<v Speaker 1>the blitz. There is, I mean an eight seven PF

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<v Speaker 1>grade against the bliss that was third best in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL over the course of the season, fifth best passer

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<v Speaker 1>rating against the blitz on the season as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of this is gonna come down to,

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<v Speaker 1>is that was that what we saw in week six,

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<v Speaker 1>And I tend to believe it was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an aberration that, you know, him having such a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible game against the pressure, because again, his his career

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<v Speaker 1>and this season has proven that he can handle the pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>that he can handle the blitz, that he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to be okay in this And then you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look back at the other thing and Brady

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<v Speaker 1>unspectacularly goes for one six in that one, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was not sacked. He was only hit four times in

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<v Speaker 1>that game. And we know Brady can't run out of

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<v Speaker 1>site in half an hour. But the thing is, if

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<v Speaker 1>you give him time, he's still a good quarterback, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the very best on the season, and with additional

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<v Speaker 1>weapons in this one as well, a guy named Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Brown is also on this team. Now, um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be difficult for them to get shut down

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. I think the other thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>might see a little bit early which will be really

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<v Speaker 1>out of the ordinary for this Bucks team. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I do think we might see

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the run game a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more early in this game. So it does make me wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Packers run a ton of dime defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and so with that, could we see them try to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of that with the two headed running back monster,

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<v Speaker 1>with Ronald Jones back healthy and Leonard for Nette being

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<v Speaker 1>able to uh to to you know, really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come on here towards the end of the season for

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<v Speaker 1>this team. So do they try to take advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>that dime coverage and run the ball a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more early and and and that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be looking at early as well to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see if there's some in game opportunities with that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you know, into the day, I see

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<v Speaker 1>this as a very very very tight game. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give me, you know, if you're gonna give me

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<v Speaker 1>a hook on this game, um, I'm gonna take it.

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<v Speaker 1>With the bucks. I like three and a half when

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<v Speaker 1>it was at four. As you know, Gil, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I had a four in my account. I didn't swoop

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<v Speaker 1>back in and and take it. I did have a bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have bucks up to ten uh in a

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<v Speaker 1>teaser with the with the bills as well, So um,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that as well in this one. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from just another thing, you know, I met a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of props from a prop betting standpoint here, if you

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<v Speaker 1>do think that this is a if you do think

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a very efficient Packers offensive performance in

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<v Speaker 1>this game, the rushing total for Aaron Rodgers is thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and a half or fourteen and a half depending on

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<v Speaker 1>which book that you look at out there. He only

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<v Speaker 1>got to fourteen yards rushing three different times this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of those were in games where the it was

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<v Speaker 1>super super tightly contested. And you know, Aaron Rodgers is

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<v Speaker 1>that type of guy. If he's gotta go get it,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll go get it. But outside of that, he only

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<v Speaker 1>made it to fourteen yards three different times this year. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, by the body of work here, there's

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<v Speaker 1>never designed Aaron Rodgers run plays, right, So that's always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be some sort of scramble situation. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have pretty heavy lean to the under on Rogers rushing

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<v Speaker 1>prop as well. Alright, So and and and just to clarify,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have Tampa Bay in a teaser in pocket

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Okay, Um, a couple of things. One Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur's game plan against the Rams like we should. That

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<v Speaker 1>that was amazing to me that that he was just

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<v Speaker 1>like we are running at these guys. And maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>know when we talk about Coach of the Year candidates

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<v Speaker 1>and and rightfully so McDermott and Stefanski. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Lafleur never gets any juice because he's got Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's you know, it's our knee jerk not to

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<v Speaker 1>give him credit. But I mean that guy's scripts at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the games are great. The the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing is and and I want to you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you bring up the notion of these two championship games

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<v Speaker 1>and we actually have a prior this year in both

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<v Speaker 1>of these matchups, and we were going through it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have a week to talk about these

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<v Speaker 1>two games, so and all the different media we do,

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<v Speaker 1>we we have to remember what we have and have

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<v Speaker 1>not said. But but here on the on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't said it. I think we all agree like

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<v Speaker 1>those games don't mean a whole lot to these handicaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they do. We'll get to Kansas City Buffalo next,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we're going back the Green Bay Tampa Bay game,

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<v Speaker 1>these were both week six, Like I think most people

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<v Speaker 1>remember that because the Packers were up tending. Nothing was

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<v Speaker 1>the pick six, then subsequent to it was almost another

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<v Speaker 1>pick says, they took it to the two. Next thing

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<v Speaker 1>you knew, it was thirteen to tend and then thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight to ten. It was the weirdest game, but that

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Kansas City game. And I figured this out on

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<v Speaker 1>eras Jason and I were going through this on a

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<v Speaker 1>Numbers game. It was that postponed game because the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>had a had a game with the Titans pushed back

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<v Speaker 1>to Tuesday. Remember that was when the NFL was postponing

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<v Speaker 1>games and the Titans had the outbreak. So because the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills had to play on Tuesday, that previously scheduled Bills

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs game from two days later on a Thursday got

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<v Speaker 1>pushed to the early game Monday, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>two o'clock Pacific. I remember not one second of that game,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really interesting because you remember the whole game actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a whole thing about it, do you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Wish and everybody was, okay, Todd, give us Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Green Bay first before we do all that. Um

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay, Green Bay. I think I agree with Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the first game was an a ration. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers were doing the Packers thing up ten nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>you just said. The two picks in the game just

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<v Speaker 1>turned very radically and weird. The thing I like the

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<v Speaker 1>most in this game actually is the team total over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven and a half for the Packers, because if

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Heineke um of uh Washington football fame can put

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<v Speaker 1>up twenty three on your defense, and if Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 1>can put up points on your defense, and even Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Brees was gonna be putting up points on your defense

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<v Speaker 1>with no arm I think, um, there's no reason why

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers can't get the twenty seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like the team total over and and if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have access to team totals, I would probably

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<v Speaker 1>take the game over as well, because I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>the Buccaneers stopping this Packer offense. I mean, they just

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<v Speaker 1>made the Rams look, you know, mediocre, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see how they're not going to a Buccaneers defense, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is maybe slightly above average. If that, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that was really a gift game. Let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the Bucking is plus three, and as Adam

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about, as they're going down the field up

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<v Speaker 1>twenty to thirteen, I'm like, okay, that's a loser. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they fumble given the touchdown and get the other touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, and then I took when it got to twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>I took Saints the other way, going for the middle

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't trust the Buccaneers. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't trust the Buccaneers. I will say this, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>let Jared goth go up and down the field. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers have really not been such a great defensive team

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<v Speaker 1>either this year. They just get out to these huge

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<v Speaker 1>leads because their offense never doesn't score. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Packers team total over. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>like the game over because I gotta think that the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers defense, you know, it's gonna give up some points.

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<v Speaker 1>So I could easily see this being like thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one or thirty five twenty four, something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um especially a lot of Packers games, they get up

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<v Speaker 1>way ahead and then they start giving you back door

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns all day long. If you remember the Bears game,

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<v Speaker 1>they were a bazillion and they gave up back door

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns every Lion's game is like that. But I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>think the over is worth a look, uh in this

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<v Speaker 1>game and and team total Packers over is the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Packers do have moments, right, we're talking about that late.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was Week fifteen or sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>they played Carolina. They were way up at the half

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<v Speaker 1>and then they kind of just stopped playing football. And

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina had a great to do in every game. They

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<v Speaker 1>do it in every game. If you look at their

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<v Speaker 1>entire schedule that it's like Adam was saying, they're up

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<v Speaker 1>huge and then they just go to sleep and give

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<v Speaker 1>back toor touchdowns like crazy. Um. The other thing I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's unique about this is just this this

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<v Speaker 1>offense from the buck does present at least a unique

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look for any defense with three I think

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<v Speaker 1>unquestioned you could say stud receivers, and then you also

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<v Speaker 1>have the kind of the duel tight end threat there

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<v Speaker 1>in Brighton Gronk. I mean, Gronk had one of his

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<v Speaker 1>best games of the season against this Packers team, had

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight yards. He had seventy eight of bradies hundred

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six passing yards in the first game. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 1>was that in abiration this when you look at how

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers have really fared against linebacker, I mean, have

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<v Speaker 1>fared against tight ends over the course of the sea

0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.159
<v Speaker 1>and they've actually done very very well. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that the Bucks did is they were lining

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<v Speaker 1>Gronk up out wide like he was going up against

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<v Speaker 1>corners in that game and had a touchdown against the

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<v Speaker 1>corner in that game as well, And so given them

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<v Speaker 1>kind of different looks with all of that. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>add in Antonio Brown into the fold and Gire Alexander,

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<v Speaker 1>the stud of all studs when it comes to corners, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, over the last couple of seasons, can only

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<v Speaker 1>cover one of those guys, right, And so that's why

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that's Packers defense that has been very very

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<v Speaker 1>well since week thirteen is they've really did start to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of turn things around. Eighth in you know, eighth

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<v Speaker 1>in yards per attempt against their fifth and passer rating

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<v Speaker 1>against uh second in ProFootball Focus coverage grade since week

0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.760
<v Speaker 1>thirteen as well. But Jaire Alexander, again, most teams don't

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<v Speaker 1>have two legitimate options in the past game, and certainly

0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.880
<v Speaker 1>don't have three legitimate options in the past game as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I do think that this Buck's offense presents

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<v Speaker 1>at least a unique kind of circumstance for the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>defense as well. It's an interesting point. One last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'd had to the total too, so to jump in

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<v Speaker 1>would be like last week the Saints and Bucks, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there was very sharp money over forty eight and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>over forty nine, over forty nine and a half that

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<v Speaker 1>got up to fifty three and a half, so like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a significant movement for any playoff game, even

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<v Speaker 1>a regular season game at that and it fell right

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. So a lot of people were very

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>happy about that. But like, we're looking at a game

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<v Speaker 1>this week that's a point and a half above an

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<v Speaker 1>average total for the season, and it's two point shy

0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of where that game closed. And like I would just

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<v Speaker 1>simply look at these teams and say, do the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>have a better defense than the Green Bay Packers? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the answer probably would lean towards yes. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I would say, do the Packers have a better

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers have a better offense then the Saints, And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody is going to dispute that, And

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<v Speaker 1>so you're you're kind of getting the counterpart to that

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<v Speaker 1>would be, like does it look different when it's played

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<v Speaker 1>outside versus being played inside of the dome, But like

0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:02.439
<v Speaker 1>you're getting a better offer with a lesser defense in

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 1>a game that's now priced a little bit shorter coming

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of a move that was extremely significant

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a week ago. Like I would agree that this numbers

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just a little bit light on the toll. Todd

0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 1>got a little upset just now, also soon to put

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<v Speaker 1>the biscuit in the basket. I just wanted to say

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<v Speaker 1>one other thing as I'm getting upset. Camp Acres ran

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen carries for ninety yards, and I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>the stats are, because you know the stats in NFL

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<v Speaker 1>LIE but there was holes, gigantic holes for him against

0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay defense. So again that's another reason why

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<v Speaker 1>if Tampa Bay is able to run and take some

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>pressure off Brady, I just think the overhears is just

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<v Speaker 1>the best play in my opinion. I just one last

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<v Speaker 1>thing about this. I you know, Adam was saying how

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<v Speaker 1>something that Alan Boston said lingered, something like Las Vegas

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Chris said last week lingered in my head, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if he said it on the podcast or afterwards,

0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>but he was saying, one of his you know, hallmarks

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<v Speaker 1>of success in these contests in the NFL, UH this

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<v Speaker 1>year and in past years, is having his own UH

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<v Speaker 1>is relying on other people to use the rankings of

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<v Speaker 1>of certain sites and to you know, he has his

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<v Speaker 1>own and obviously to exploit those differences. In the Tampa

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Bay Buccaneers are the biggest example of that. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>this year we're a site like Football Outsiders, and we

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<v Speaker 1>love Aaron shots and Aaron comes on the show all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. But I think there's no question that most people,

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<v Speaker 1>most people, maybe not all people, most people think that

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps they've overrated the Buccaneers all year in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>d v o A as a top four team, UH

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<v Speaker 1>for most of the season, with some fluctuation, but they

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>were up there, like well above what most people would

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<v Speaker 1>have them. And Chris was saying, he goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of used that to my advantage. Um, look

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 1>all the all the reasons stated. Obviously, Brady is Brady,

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.399
<v Speaker 1>and UH, they've got weapons, and that defense came to

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<v Speaker 1>play last week. But I'm not sure there was anything

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I saw last week because of that plus four turnover

0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>ratio that Bucks the Las Vegas Chris sentiment. That's somehow

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that over rating by uh by Football Outsiders was in

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>any way, um in any way uh you know, mitigated,

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, because it was just an aberrational kind of

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>game with those turnovers. So it's an interesting thing and

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it just lingers in my head. But anyway, you put

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>all that in the wash. We have some overs, we

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>have some Tampa Bay teasers, we got some Green Bay sentiment.

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Go with what you will there. I'm on a Green

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Bay first, Yes, I'm sorry and and Gil like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing about that that d b o A

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:32.399
<v Speaker 1>is very high on the on the Bucks team, but

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>it is corroborated about Pro Football Focus as well. I

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:36.880
<v Speaker 1>get you know, another another site that we I think

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>respect as far as what they do over there. I

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>mean number six overall offense, numbers two pass offense, number

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>eleven rush offense on the defensive side, the number five

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>overall defense, number four against the past, number eleven against

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the rush. So while the numbers are in the rankings

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>are high on d B o A, it is it's

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<v Speaker 1>also backed up by you know, Pro Football Focus and

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>what they do as well. Yeah, it's a great I agree,

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>with Tampa Bay being, you know, that high on offense,

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>but they're not. You really think they're that high on defense?

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.199
<v Speaker 1>Defense there. I mean you look at their games, they

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>don't look you know, much better than a touch better

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>than average. I mean Taylor Heineck was just making them

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 1>look silly. I mean it was ridiculous. How wide open.

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a that's a that's a Washington deef offense.

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>That is literally me and you could play quarterback better

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>than some of those guys. It's unbelievable. You look at

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta game. Atlanta moves up and down against them,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota moved on in Kansas City obviously move against everybody.

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>But I mean who did they really play? New Orleans

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>scored a ton on them. Who who are they playing

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>that they're so great on defense? I I don't see it. Yeah,

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Taylor Heinekey thing. They play that game

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>about Devin White, I think that's a fairly big downgrade

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>for a rushing quarterback like Heineke. I mean, Devon White

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>runs a you know, four or five five and two

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty five pounds and create some havoc for

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>for a guy trying to run for all those trying

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to run for all those yards and things like that. So, um,

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 1>I take that a little bit with with a great assault.

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, look, they're they're the number one

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 1>team against the run all year long. They only give

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.239
<v Speaker 1>up eighty one yards a game on the ground, and

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>so you know, some of these teams just have to

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>go to the past. And if you're throwing a ton,

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 1>you're naturally are going to move the ball, you know

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better and stuff like that. How efficient

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>is it when you become a one dimensional team? That's

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>up for debate, But um, you know something to consider

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>from from the defensive side as well. There for the

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Bucks to answer your question about d v O A.

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And for the Bucks specifically though, was that they were

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<v Speaker 1>second offensively if I'm not mistaken six defensively you know

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 1>where they suck with special teams, which is the most

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>devolnable thing from a year to year. They were twenty eight,

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>but you know where the Packers were, So it kind

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>of just negates itself. But that's that's when they gave

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>up two big punt returns to one of them that

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 1>counted against the dude. As you guys were talking about

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>your your Tampa Bay positions. You know, I had New

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Orleans basically in money line situations, and that Jared Cook fumble.

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Like every time you guys said, oh, we thought we

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>were dead, it's like I'm there was the opposite of that,

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just dying. Just they it's him Deonte Harris. They

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>only came up with three points off both of those

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>part returns, the second negated by a penalty. But it's

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>just like uh, brutal. Okay, let's move to the second game,

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City and Buffalo. Kansas City is favored by three. Uh,

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the total is a little higher here fifty four. We

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>still don't know officially, unless something happened to the first

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>part of this podcast. We still don't know officially if

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes is playing. Um, Patrick Mahomes, who obviously had

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>a a banged up toe. Let's go with banged up

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>as the medical explanation of this, prior to Andy Reid

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>calling a, Hey, you know the guy we have that

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 1>cheat code, the greatest player in the NFL with the

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>banging up toe. Let's have him roll out here to

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the right and he uh, he got tackled, uh and

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>uh we never saw him again. He was Woozy on

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>his way up. He didn't come back the rest of

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the game, and the Chiefs held on for seventeen victory

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>over the Browns. So, um, we don't know if it's

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes yet. The line where it is assumed is that

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>we will see Mahomes. Um but again not official. And

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 1>it's again Buffalo coming off a win against Baltimore in

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>which really they relied on a pick six and then

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>a Lamar Jackson concussion two plays later which knocked him

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>out of the game. The pick six change changed a

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>ten to three game, which at the worst for Baltimore

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>should have been ten to six. Instead, Tarren Johnson a

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>hundred and one yards of the house great played by

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Dradavious White getting in front of Lamar Jackson on the

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>run back, and then Tyler Huntley couldn't get the Ravens

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>quite in the end zone, j K. Dobbins dropped the ball.

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>So the seventeen two three that's how Buffalo gets to

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>its first DNFC championship since nineteen twenty seven years. Kansas

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>City gets there not only overcoming the Mahomes injury, but

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Stefanski did not have his greatest day ever as

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>coach made a lot of mistakes, went for one down

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen to nine instead of going for two, challenged a

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Tyree Hill catch from Chad Henny that shouldn't have been challenged,

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>lost his first time out of the three. They ended

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>up having to use a second time out when they

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>got too close to the play cock with five minutes

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>plus left. Uh. And so timeouts ended up being the

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>story of that game, and then the final sequence. By

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the way, there was a Shard Schard Higgins who could

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>forget at the end of the first half with the

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>with the with the line minus six and a half

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>in the first half, it's sixteen to six, sixteen to three.

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Pardon me, he's going to the house. Uh. Sorenson gets

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>there and knocks the ball out, fumbles through the end zone.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>We can debate that. I think it's the strangest rule

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>in sports, the dumbest rule. Todd has different thoughts that rule.

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>It's the first, makes no sense. There is no better

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>rule in sports. It's the best rule. Uh. So that happened,

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and then, of course the chace, so we got to

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>debate that for a second. But then the Chad Henny

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>sequence at the end. I don't care what anybody says

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>we the fourth down play. Fine, you decided to gamble

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>high percentage play Chad Handy to Tyree Hill. They got

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it done. Now, if it's incomplete, we're talking about a

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>whole different thing, perhaps narrative wise, but it's not the

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>fourth down play. I want to talk about second down.

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>In third down, second down north of the two minute warning,

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>they have no time ounds left. Instead of just running

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and knocking it down to the second to the two

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>minute warning, Chad Henny Is drops back to pass. He

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>gets bailed out by a sack. Third down again, instead

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:15.959
<v Speaker 1>of just running it in and you know, punting with

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>like one fifteen left, Henny gets flushed out of the pocket,

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>runs thirteen yards on a third and fourteen, which allows

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>them to go for it on fourth down. Um, it's

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.719
<v Speaker 1>amazing to me that some folks during the week are like,

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, but you know, he knew if he was

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>flushing out of the pocket he had to run on

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the second now play, he knew he should take a sack.

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>People gotta stop with this. If that was Anthony Lynn,

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>we would be destroying Andy Reid. Excuse me, Anthony Lynn,

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>we would be destroying him. Anthony Lynn to me, excuse me,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Andy Reid, it seems to me we forgot very quickly.

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>We forgot that before he had to Patrick Mahomes, he

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>was a clock management nightmare. Well, the minute he didn't

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>have Patrick Mahomes again, this happened, and so the chiefs

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>overcame all that. So he was both a lunatic and

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a hero the end. To me, Um, but they got by?

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you say, but they got by? Go ahead, I'm sorry,

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm done. Just before we get into the whole analysis

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of this game. Um, right now, you do you were saying,

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>as you were saying, the line was minus three assuming Homes,

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>is it really fully assuming the Homes, Because if we

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>said right now, probably not fully Mahomes is playing, I

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>think it would be a little higher. I agree, it'll

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>go to three and a half. It'll go to three

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and a half. Yeahs playing than Mahomes not playing. I

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>think that's definitely on that side. But is it's I'm

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>just making the point. It's not all the way there.

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I think we agree. Yeah. Anyway, before we get into

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo at Kansas City again, three points in fifty four

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the total? Was there anything I say that you vehemently

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>disagree with First of all, let's do the let's do

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the Richard Higgins fumble through the end zone. Yes, this

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>is the stupidest ruling sports todd because there is no

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>football logic to it. I agree with that part. Okay,

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>so what's your solution. Here's my point. I agree with you.

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense if you're going to be consistent, like,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you fumble on the twenty six that goes

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>out of bound, you get it at the twenty six.

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>You fumble on the thirteen, you get it the thirteen. Here.

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>If you fumble with the one, you should get it

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>at the one. That's the consistent position. I agree with that.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>The reason I love the rule is the NFL is

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>already too offensive a game. It's offense, offense, offense. It's

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>almost impossible to stop any good team in the NFL.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>So I love the fact that guys at the three

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>yard line have to have in the back of their

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>mind be the f careful when you reach for the

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>goal line, because if you fumble this ball through the

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>ends and we're gonna lose it, which means that there's

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>got to be a couple of them were smart enough

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to go you know, what I'm not reaching it because

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it's too dangerous and in a game that is so

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>offensive already, and I like a little defense sprinkled into

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>my ball games. I like the fact that there's a

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>little something there that the defense gets. Finally, something for

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the defense. Everything in the NFL is offense, offense, offense.

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh you sniffed on the quarterback past you know, roughing

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the pastor fifteen passing inference? Oh you touch that guy,

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>don't past inference. Everything is offense, offense, offense, something for

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the defense, got damn it? And then the guy who

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't extend the ball gets hammered by us the next

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>day because he didn't put in the effort to try

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and score a touchdown. And he gives you that, He

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>gives you the exact explanation that you just said, because

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you said he's gonna come out and say I didn't

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>want to risk bumboat to the end zone. And you

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>know what you say, Todd, You say, dammit, you idiot,

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>you rate for the end zone and whatever, like I

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>needed that touchdown, like you're gonna everybody's complaining about his

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>effort at that point, like it's it's a ten yard penalty,

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>is what it is you. You you have to take

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the ball back to the ten yard line, and and

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>it's totally that's ridiculous. White ten? Why not eight? Why not? Okay? Okay,

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but whatever it is something you know, punitive loss of

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>down and you take the ball back to the twenty.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Whatever the rule is, it should not be changed your

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>possession because just if you if you just step back

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>from it for a second, just logically speaking, okay, when

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you fumble, okay, but Todd, but hold on, let me

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>just make my point if I could, so, if you

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>fumble the ball right out of bounds, way you were

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>talking matriculating the ball down the field, you stated again

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you get the ball back where you are. What is

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>what is just again just stepping back? What is so egregious?

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>What is so absolutely horrible? Hold hold on? Hold on,

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>hold on? But think about it. It's like that the

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>notion that then you would have the audacity to do

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>it over the goal line, right, the audacity to try

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>to score the football should result in you losing possession.

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Just think of just think about what we're talking about.

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>What I agree with you, But you still think you're

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>taking this dance, but you're actually serious. He's actually serious, Adam,

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the podcast. Is a gil Logically, you're a thousand.

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>In fact, logically, should be no penalty. The guy should

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>get it at the one yard line, because if you're

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be consistent, if you fumble out of bounds,

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>it's no big deal. You get it when you fumble

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>at the thirty six. You don't get it back at

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the forty six. You get it at the thirty six.

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>There's no penalty for fumbling out of bounds. So if

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you fumble out the one yard line, according to your logic,

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>and I actually agree with you logically that if you

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>fumble out the one yard line you should get it

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>at the one yard line. There should be no penalty

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>for fumbling into the end zone at all. But if

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you the reason I like it is, as I said,

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not a logic thing. It's a little rule, something

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.760
<v Speaker 1>nice for the defense, because they get nothing nice. Nothing

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>that ever happens for the defense. Everything. We need more

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>points because we need our big crowds to watch the

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>NFL game so we can have concerts and halftime with

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Lady Gaga. It's like, come on, you have some goddamn defense.

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I had, you know what else? Is very nice for

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the defense. Is they also get an extra twenty yards

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>in addition to that change of possession that they never had, Right,

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 1>they get a touched you back on top of it.

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right, Adam. Adam, I would say, you're right,

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>they should get into one yard that that is a

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>little too far your I agree with you on that

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>if I think, but I think that the one is

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a start for sure. Yeah, they're gonna change at least

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>part of that. I mean, you're right, that's an extra

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>layer to the whole thing. Um. Somebody on Twitter, and

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I apologize because I don't know, I can't remember who

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>did it. But he said to me, we're trying to

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>think of an equivalent in another sport, right, we like

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>took five minutes like what is this? What is this like?

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 1>And and the best he came The best he came

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>up with was, imagine it's a baseball game and someone

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>hits a shot down the line and it hits the

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>foul pole. Not at home, that doesn't go, doesn't go

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a fair territory, but it hits the

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>foul pole. Sorry, buddy, you hit the foul pole. End

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>of inning. Other team takes there at bats that the

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>closest we could come up with. You know, there is

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 1>one point logically where your thing doesn't fully make sense,

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and this I would like to hear. Here's the only

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>thing that doesn't fully make sense. There's a reason guys

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>don't stretch the ball from the thirty one to the

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine because it's too risky to try to stretch

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the ball from the thirty one to twenty nine when

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>what are you getting. You're getting two extra yards a

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>big deal to drive. You're getting a first down? Though,

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>what if you're getting a first down? Okay, So, and

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>guys do try to stretch. What you're saying, guys do

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.879
<v Speaker 1>try to stretch the ball. That's true, that's good point. Okay. Look,

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to come up with something, a

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 1>shred of something to hang on too for my poor defense.

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>And am I wrong about the final sequence with Andy

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Reid that he was both a lunatic a raving lunatic

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>on second and third forget fourth down, we can debate.

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 1>That's that's you know, reasonable down on third down. When

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I saw Chad Henny go back to pass, I was like,

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is this for real? Really? Is he really going back

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I could think is he's telling him

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>for Sure to run. But that didn't look like a

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>bootleg for Shure to run kind of go back to past.

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>That looked like a real go back to past. And

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>then he just got lucky that he got flushed out.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>But that was like bizarro world. I was like, is

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>he really doing this? Is just crazy? Here's how I know.

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought what you said was about how we're only

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>mentioning this because the fourth down worked out. I think that,

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.240
<v Speaker 1>to me is the most exhausting part about watching football,

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.760
<v Speaker 1>betting football, then following on Twitter, is it always depends

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>on the outcome to how much we're going to criticize

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the coach for making the call. Like if they go

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>for it on fourth down or fourth down, it's a

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>terrible decision unless it works and then in which case

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a terrific decision. There's like so much, so

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 1>much of a push for being aggressive and going for it.

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>It's great and we praise everyone when it works, but

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>when it doesn't, they just get killed online. So it's

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>like a never ending thing. But the only reason we're

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>not talking about that second now play call is because

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>they got the first down. If it was anything different

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>than it just piles up. And we're probably looking at

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>other things throughout the game too, but it's that's which

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>it's never ending. Yeah, that's why I don't I don't

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>focus on the fourth down Pa, because people want to

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about that's like, that's not what I'm talking about.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, it's it's it's what to me is the

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>unassailable ridiculousness of second and third death and the reason

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that you know, because I heard some people throughout like again, oh,

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he knew that he was supposed to take this sect.

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh he knew he's supposed to scrabble. I have Jeff

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Schwartz on the show earlier this week. His brother Mitchell

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>plays for the Chiefs, and so you could tell he

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of has to navigate these questions a little, or

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>at least I'm assuming he does. And he was just

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>giggling and laughing because I mean, it's it's really true,

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like if this was another coach. I used Anthony Lynn

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>as the poster child, but if this was some other coach,

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Bill O'Brien could todd. If this was Bill O'Brien,

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>we would be murdering him, murdering him but I agree

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>with you a thousand percent, and even on the fourth down.

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Even on the fourth down, I still think it's way risk.

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's one thing to do with Mahomes, but

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>with Chad Henny, that's what is that like an eight

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>five percent chance that he makes it? With Chad Henny,

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I would say there's chance, we would. Football people will

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>tell you that was a pretty pretty easy. I mean,

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I haven't two point three percent, Todd.

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what the exact percentages, but whatever

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>whatever you put the percentages that you have to take

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>it down a little a bit for the fact that

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>it's Chad Henny. We just saw the guy throw an

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.720
<v Speaker 1>interception and in the end zone on the drive previous.

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>That was about the worst interception I've ever seen in

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 1>any game, let alone a playoff game. So you have

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to be wondering what is going I mean, it's a

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 1>little scary to do that at midfield, and and if

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>they punted deep, they have one fifteen to go with

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>no time outs. Very difficult to score in that situation. So,

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially when we talk about Baker Mayfield needs

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>play action to you know, to do you know, to

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to be effective and stuff. But yeah, and Stepanski, as

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, going for one challenging the Tyreek play, I

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't even mention the punt with four three left right.

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the most obvious one. The punt four three left

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>down five points. They give it up, never see the

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>ball again. And then there was a challenge on on

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>one drive when they were out down nineteen to ten

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>where Mahomes was still in any hit Robinson for a

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>first down might have been overturned. They didn't challenge. So

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>not not stefancy, like we said, we didn't want a skewer.

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Stefancy can see that a great year, but not his

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>best moment either, wasn't There also challenge on Ontarik Hill

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>catching the ball. That was what I said before the

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty three yarder Tyreek Hill right in front of them.

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:07.919
<v Speaker 1>They challenged that was they got rid of their first

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>time out that way. That was awful. Yes, sorry, Uh,

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, as you talked about things that are going on,

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you know while we're while we're doing this, So just

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:19.919
<v Speaker 1>uh the report out of practice right now, reporters, we're

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.720
<v Speaker 1>at the open portion of the chief's practice. Said Mahomes

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>was out there with a helmet on practicing today. Of

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>course yesterday they listened him as a full participant and

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>then downgraded it too limited. I imagine that was the

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>NFL coming in and saying, hey, don't listen to this

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>full participant when he's in the freaking concussion protocol like limited,

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Like list him is limited? Like what are you doing?

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, don't list him as a full participant. Um.

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.959
<v Speaker 1>But he was out there today with helmet on for

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the open portion of Chiefs practice, So that did happen.

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Another thing, The Colts are hiring Nick Sirianni. The I

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>mean the the Eagles are hiring Colts offensive coordinator Nick

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Sirianni is their head coach. And what they had home

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>to you, gil uh. The Steeler are quote planning to

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>sign Dwayne Haskins Steelers on all three of all they

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>are they are gonna sign Dwayne Haskets. Wow, in here

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>right now, what are you talking about? We don't one

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.959
<v Speaker 1>know Dwayne Haskins on a Pitchburg st like, well, I'd

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>rather have that Duck Hodges guy back, give me that

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Duck Hodges Playne Haskets can't even remember the plays, by

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the way, if you do, if you do anything today

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>speaking of coach hirings Dan Campbell, who was hired by

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions Adam, Adam and Manten. I don't know

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>if you guys have seen this, but they put out

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a twenty Have you seen this, Adam, there's a

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine? Oh you did already. It's nineteen seconds or

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine seconds, I can't remember. It's Dan Campbell's opening

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:49.959
<v Speaker 1>press conference. And he sounds like a knuckle dragging Neanderthal,

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna kneecaps, We're gonna be the forceful, We're

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna smile at you when you knock us down. And

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, the Lions are completely toast,

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Like they just toast on arrival. You thought, I said,

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's the word. You thought. That's right, That's

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I was gonna say, toast on arrival. Yes, Adam,

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Adam. Go ahead to two things fascinate me

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 1>about all of this is one, like, sometimes like head

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>coaches like Cambell, like they just say the most ridiculous

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>things and like that is who they are. But like,

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>first of all, how do they get hired and let

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>alone signed to six years. What did they do in

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>the interview to show one side of it and not

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>present this side and then think like, Okay, I'm gonna

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>flip back or was it the same? And like they

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>got by with it, Like I don't know how that happened,

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I think. And then Chris Spielman probably loves this ship, right,

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And the second thing is like, Matt,

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you said they hired Sirianni in Philadelphia, Like, I don't

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>know why teams are obsessed with turning above average, too

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>great offensive coordinators into head coaches rather than just keeping

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>them is above average the great offensive coordinators, Like why

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>can't there just be great offensive coordinators who were terrific

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>at their job, great defensive coordinators who were great, and

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>they just have guys who are head coaches that manage everything,

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>work on putting players in the best position to succeed

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>and leave the play calling and all the headache to

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>all these other guys. Like but like, we're obsessed with

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to turn bron day Ball into a head coach

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.359
<v Speaker 1>when he's probably the best oh CE in the game

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>this season because of where he sits and how he

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>manages it, rather than putting him on the sideline and

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>giving him all these duties, Like why can't guys just

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>be great offensive coordinators for teams and call the players

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and do such an important role like they like teams

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>are just I think forcing it with somebody's head coach hirings,

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't get it. That's the North Turner effect. Yeah,

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I said this, and I don't, Adam, I don't know

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>if there's any way. I don't know how I would

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>do this. But if I were an owner who was

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to hire a head coach, and I said this

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 1>on prime TIMEE So forgive me for repeating him. Man,

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's somehow in the interview, because what do we

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>talk about most besides handy Gabet We talk about their

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>gaffs in game. But I would try to ascertain somehow

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>how a coach would behave in an in game situation, right, Like,

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>who's the Sean McDermott, who gets that he's got to

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>call that time out right there to get the refs

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to to actually replay this to see if it was

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a catch or not. Who's the Sean m you know,

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>who's that guy? Who's the Bill Belichick Versus who's the

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>guy that, you know, I just want a guy who

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>is a big picture guy. You can delegate all that

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>other stuff, but that's what I want more than anything.

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how i'd figure that out an interview,

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 1>but that, to me is what I value the most

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 1>at this point because that's a differentiator with these guys.

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell's not I'm not hiring that dude. It's like,

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, you're you're great, thanks for the interview.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, like my old my old football coach guy said, look,

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna run the football. We don't care what the

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>other guys are doing. We're just know the world and

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>just punch him in the moth. Matt, this is this

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>is the Dan Campbell interview. We just alright. As far

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>as the game, then Buffalo in Kansas City, Adam Europe.

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>So I think very similar to the Bucks and Packers

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.399
<v Speaker 1>in that there was obviously that anchoring game that these

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>two teams played much more recently. I think that previous

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 1>matchup has a little more like resemblance of what we

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>may see compared to the other game in the NFC,

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>where I think both the Bucks and Packers are very different. Um,

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I think the Bills and Chiefs very much similar teams

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to what we saw when they played each other. Um,

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>not that long ago, but I would say that the

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>parallels here stay the same in the sense that the

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Bills through two playoff games, they've allowed thirteen opponent drives

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>inside their own thirty yard line. They've allowed twenty seven

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>points on those thirteen drives and scored seven of their own,

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>so their in net minus twenty on thirteen drives inside

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 1>of their thirty. Offensively, in the first game against the Colts,

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen and the Bills are great against the Ravens.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 1>They struggled the time, but like they're coming into this

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>game on an absolute role against the spread. They've covered

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>eight nine in a row. Whatever it is, hottest team

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL the end the season, that's still carrying on,

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're just they're getting these timely plays on defense,

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 1>whether it's the stops inside their thirty in their red zone,

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the fourth down stops that they're generating, the turnovers, the

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>pick six, whatever it is, Like, like how long does

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 1>this ultimately go on for before a team makes them pay?

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And I look at the Chiefs, who are inside of

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the red zone among the best in the NFL. They're

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>obviously with Mahomes a terrific offense, and Casey comes into

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the game. They haven't covered a game since November one

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>against my beloved New York Jet. So, like it's a

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>huge contrast in terms of how these two teams are

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.399
<v Speaker 1>being treated. I think the Bills probably for the first

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>time in the entire season, hit like the peak of

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>their price point against the Colts in the wild card game,

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 1>where there was seven point favorites. That was just the

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>second time all season that they were seven point favorites

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.240
<v Speaker 1>in a game, believe it or not, despite how great

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>they've been playing. And so I can't help but look

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.959
<v Speaker 1>at this game and say, if either of these sort

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>of streaks were reversed or not as existent coming into

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the game, if maybe they were both four and four

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>against the spread, or they didn't have these contrasting streaks

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 1>coming in, Like are we looking at Kansas City is

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 1>a much bigger favorite? Like is this a case where

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the number now at three is doing part to obviously

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the Mahomes injury, but like, is it suppressed a little

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>bit because of how great Buffalo has been and now

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City has not been able to cover or spread

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.399
<v Speaker 1>in over two and a half months, Like, how does

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that factor into this number, and how large would it

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>be if if those things were reversed or non existent,

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and do those things like really really matter for this matchup?

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And the Chiefs similar to the Packers, Like they're a

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.879
<v Speaker 1>team that despite not covering in a lot of these

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>games down the stretch, Like they're out to a huge

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>lead against the Buccaneers, they don't end up covering. They're

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>out to a huge lead against the Broncos, don't end

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>up covering. They're out a huge lead against the Dolphins,

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 1>don't end up covering the same thing with the Saints,

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And then last week again against the Browns, they get

0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 1>up by a couple of scores and in Cleveland ends

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>up coming back and getting that backdoor cover. So it's

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a very similar situation, and I can't help but

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>feel that the number could potentially be just a little

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>bit low because of the circumstances that bring both of

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.240
<v Speaker 1>these teams into the game. By the way, I forgot

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you were a Jets fan, would you do you want

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to trade for Deshaun badly? Would you make trades for

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Deshaun ask Houston? Whatever they want and give it to

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>them without asking questions. I think that is the proper response.

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Deshaun who was number three, as Matt said earlier Pro

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Football Focus quarterbacks, the other four in the top five

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>all in championship games. Matt Q. Yeah, so I took

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>when this thing got to three and a half, I

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>took it on the Bills. If you're gonna give me,

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, more to field goal again on this game,

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take it. Listen, you go back to that

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Week six game and you say, like, Okay, is there

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.439
<v Speaker 1>anything we can pull from that? And I think there

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>is at least a little bit that we can pull

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 1>from that one. So you look at my homes against

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>statistically one of his lower games of the year six,

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that's that's obviously a good completion for twenty five yards passing.

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 1>The big outlier there is you look and you see

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Clyde Edwards, a layer goes for a hundred and sixty

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>one yards on the ground on twenty six carries. And

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>what you see there is again what I kind of

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>talked about last game with this Bills team, and and

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and this isn't a pattern if you go over the

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>course of the season, the Bills lull you into wanting

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.919
<v Speaker 1>to run the ball against them because they understand again,

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Sean McDermott, and these guys are smart enough to know

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that running the ball in early downs is not the

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>way to win football games in in the NFL. It

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>is less efficient. And that is kind of how they

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>go about kind of tricking you into doing something that

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you really shouldn't be doing, especially if you're a team

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.440
<v Speaker 1>like the Chiefs. And if you look back at this

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Week six game, the Chiefs ran the ball on percent

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of first and second down plays in that game. The

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Bills just let them do it. There were six or

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>fewer players in the box on of the plays on

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the Bills side of the ball and defense because wanted

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes to not utilize the Travis Kelsey's in the

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Tyree Hills and stuff like that, and utilize

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>what he does so incredibly well. Run the ball all day. Eventually,

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna work out, and we're going to be

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 1>able to capitalize on that. Now, it didn't work out

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>in this game that that that strategy um they were

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>they were able to get you know, seven over seven

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 1>yards to carry and and they were incredibly efficient on

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:25.759
<v Speaker 1>the ground and the Chiefs weren't able to I mean,

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the Bills weren't able to hold them to get it done.

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I think that strategy should play here

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 1>yet again. I think they should do that again. Don't

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 1>let Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and Tyree Hill get

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>it going against you, play light in the box, let

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>him run the ball and and you know, with a

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 1>less than a hundred percent Clyde Edwards Hilaire this time around,

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 1>or Darryl Williams, whatever it might be, whoever gets the

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>bulk of the carries for this team. And Alan's not

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>going to have as bad a game as he did

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the first game, his worst game of the season by far,

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>only a hundred and twenty two yards through the air.

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.279
<v Speaker 1>He did add forty two on the ground, but he

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>was under pressure on seventeen of his thirty one dropbacks.

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>That's not going to happen again as well. And so

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that you kind of look at this as

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen's worst game of the year against a creative

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 1>defensive strategy that the Bills are going to uh, you know,

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're going to use again. And you know,

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:20.839
<v Speaker 1>is Andy Reid aware of that. Is Andy Reid going

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to counter that by, you know, not running the ball

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and not letting it and not getting sucked into that,

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.439
<v Speaker 1>or if they're gonna hand you the four and five

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>yards every time, is it just too good to let go?

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>And so I expect some offensive regression from the Bills

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 1>in this game to get back to where they were

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>basically the entire rest of the season moving the ball.

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 1>This Chief's defense certainly can be had definitely on the ground,

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and the Bills are a little bit more efficient running

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the ball when they actually do run it, then you

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>give it credit for singletary. Actually average is nearly four

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and a half yards a carry on the season. It's

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>just that they just don't run bel they just throw

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Because they're so good at throwing the ball.

0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 1>The receiving corps back help completely healthy. The addition of

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>an experience of Gabriel Davis, the rookie getting going a

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>lot better, uh in this offense as well. So if

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna give me three in a hook, it's not

0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.239
<v Speaker 1>available anymore. I took the three in a hook even

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>at the three. I don't hate it. I think the

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Bills can win this game out right. I mean we're

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the concussion for Patrick Mahomes, and yeah,

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that's a big deal for sure, but

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was hobbling something fierce in that game.

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 1>We I mean, like, this is like even if we

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>get him out there, like we're not getting Patrick Malmes

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:30.879
<v Speaker 1>no matter what I mean, even if it's if whether

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the head or it's the foot tow whatever and

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever the hell it might be that's going on down there. So, um,

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you give me one of the very best offenses in

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the NFL the entire season long against you know, a

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>casey offense that might have a Patrick Mahomes. I understand

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent, Patrick Mahomes is better than basically every quarterback

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. But uh, this, this Bill's team is

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to let you get by with any sort

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of lulls. They're going to move the ball, They're going

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 1>to score. So give me the three and a half.

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Give me the three, and like I said, I'll have

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a sprinkle on the Bills money line as well. You're

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you're so right that we could all be focused on

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:05.879
<v Speaker 1>the wrong Patrick Mahomes injury. I will say that I've

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>gotten this cottage industry of I don't want to call

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 1>him Dr Chow disciples because they may be much more

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 1>legit on you know, who have who have contacted like, oh,

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:16.919
<v Speaker 1>the toe is not a big thing. Oh the toe

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.359
<v Speaker 1>could be a big thing. So who knows. But you're right,

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.879
<v Speaker 1>it was definitely hampering him. I love that you went

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:24.840
<v Speaker 1>back and watched the two games, the green Bay Tampa

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Bay game in the Buffalo Kansas City game that happened

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>in week six. Man. The other thing is, I think

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>in the in the end, I'm going to be on

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm already on Green Bay, but I'm gonna be on

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay and Kansas City. Um. I think for me,

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna, you know, if you can beat me,

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 1>if both of those other teams can beat me, tip

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of the cap. But the one thing that I just

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>absolutely do not if I if I see this on

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Twitter this weekend, I'm just gonna lose my mind. I hate,

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>just as a general rule, when people talk about sharp

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and square and pros and Joe's or whatever the hell

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about. But please, with these two championship games,

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say, oh, the sharp side is this,

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's just come on, stop with that this weekend.

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Every I like when they do that stuff. It's just

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:06.720
<v Speaker 1>so dumb. This week specifically, it will be ridiculous. Alright,

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>do now. I watched the first game between the Buffalo

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Bills in the Kansas City Chiefs, very very clearly Hashem

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.360
<v Speaker 1>got involved and screwed me because I had the team

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 1>total first half over Kansas City. If you remember, Kelsey

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 1>made a touchdown in the rain in the back corner

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 1>of the end zone late in the first half and

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>then Butcker missed the extra point to screw me on

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 1>my team total. So I remember this game. Uh, and

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Matt Brown has it right. This game. The only thing

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:38.359
<v Speaker 1>I will say this game was very very interesting, and

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>if you remember correctly, I remember watching this game and

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking the Bills are saying to them, please take seven

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>yards a carry. Please, here you go, take seven yards.

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>We do not want to let you beat us with

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the passing game. So Andy Reid said, okay, fine, you're

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:55.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna give me seven eight yards a carry. I'll just

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 1>keep running the ball. And that's exactly what happened. And

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:03.239
<v Speaker 1>while McDermott have a good strategy, Matt with doing that

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>against most teams it wasn't working that night because they

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:08.839
<v Speaker 1>were getting seven and eight yards a carry. Now, I'm

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 1>sure that might work against other teams that aren't a

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:14.239
<v Speaker 1>juggernaut offense like Kansas City. I remember watching this game

0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and thinking, there's not a chance in hell the Bills

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>can win this game because they're not gonna be able

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to stop him even one time. They're gonna just keep

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:23.800
<v Speaker 1>letting them drive down the field with these eight yard runs.

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 1>If you remember, Hilaire was getting gashing them every single

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he was averaging uh that game,

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was something ridiculous the running that they were

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:34.839
<v Speaker 1>doing in this game. So what the way I want

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to look at this game is I think that if

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 1>especially in the first half, maybe first half, Um, if

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you can get um in game running for first half,

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of places have that. Now if you see that,

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what it's gonna be, and the Bills are gonna

0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:51.319
<v Speaker 1>just play everybody back and let them run the ball

0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 1>on them again, you might want to take the under

0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:55.360
<v Speaker 1>here because you're gonna see a lot of six and

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 1>seven minute drives because Kansas City will say, fine, give

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>us seven yards a carry, no problem. It just eats

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the clock eats the clock, eats the clock, and you

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 1>might want to be looking at that. Um. Now. On

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the other hand, I'm with Gil as far as if

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 1>if you I'm gonna watch this, I'm obviously not gonna

0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.880
<v Speaker 1>play a pregame, but I'm gonna watch the first series

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:16.960
<v Speaker 1>or two and see does Mahomes look like he's okay.

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 1>If he does look like he's okay, I am all

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>over Kansas City. The Buffalo defense is fraudulent. I said

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>it before the Indianapolis game when I took I went

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.040
<v Speaker 1>against Phil Rivers anonymous meetings, and I go to Phil

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Rivers anonymous games. I went against that, and I bet

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>on Phil Rivers plus the six or seven against Indy

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 1>because I know the Buffalo defense is fraudulent. They had

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>their numbers go up. And this is why I can't

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>stand the d v O A and the s p

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 1>C A and all the difference against I'm against all

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:50.839
<v Speaker 1>the anybody with initials, okay, because here's the deal. The

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo defense the first half of the year was not good.

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Look at this. Look at the forty two they gave

0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:00.359
<v Speaker 1>up against Tennessee thirty two to the r MS. They

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.279
<v Speaker 1>give up like a thousand and the second half in

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that game, they were not good. And then all of

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, they played a couple of teams that just

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:11.839
<v Speaker 1>stink ola on offense, like San Francisco with Mullen, Pittsburgh Steelers,

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos, New England Patriots don't even have an offense,

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins, and and everyone's like, oh, well, Buffalo's defense, Yeah,

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty good. No it's not. It's not good. So

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City will move if Mahomes is okay. Now, this

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 1>all is an in game play for me because I

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 1>want to see what Mahomes look like. And I also

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:34.880
<v Speaker 1>like Matt brown point, the foot also is a big problem. Matt,

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a freaking great point that everyone's forgetting about. The

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 1>foot is a huge problem. So let's see what happens

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 1>in the first two drives and then we're gonna be

0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>able to tell right away what's going on here. Are

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>we gonna get Andy Reed handing the ball off for

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 1>six seven yards of play? Does Mahomes look okay? If

0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 1>there was ever a game that screamed out for in gaming,

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think in gaming is the way to go

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 1>on a hundred percent of the games, But if there

0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 1>was ever a game that screams out for in game,

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 1>it's this football game. All good points, all good points.

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Did we miss anything, guys? Teaser Matt, You're you're teasing

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 1>both dogs here together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got both

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 1>of them up. I have the Bucks at ten and

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I have the Bills at nine. The only other thing

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 1>about that Week six game, I mean, they did run

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball all over the Bills. Matt Mulano was out

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>in that game, and so just again there's there are

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 1>these guys that when they're out there, it does affect that.

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Now that's not to say that he's like this complete,

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>complete game changer and that's going to mean that they

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>can't just run the ball if they will if they

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 1>allow him to do that, but having not having him

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>out there certainly was was a factor for the Bills.

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Matt z in against the Colts. Uh, he was in.

0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:44.520
<v Speaker 1>He he he was in about half of the snaps.

0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to come back um from injury there

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and so uh, supposedly he's injured. Supposedly he's uh he's

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 1>healthy for this one. But you know again, but supposedly

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 1>are and Donald was healthy as well, So I mean

0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're you know, we're we gotta deal with

0:58:58.080 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>all that nonsense at this time of year. I mean,

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 1>let's stop that first game. Sorry, sorry, Todd. Let's not

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 1>forget too that that first game was. It was played

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 1>in pouring rains in thirty wins for all four court.

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:12.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think that influence play calling a ton, But

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>it really comes down to how they want to manage

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 1>their safeties against Kansas City. Like Houston and the opener

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 1>played with two deep safeties, and Kansas City did the

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>exact same thing where they just they said, Okay, they're

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna play like this, and they just walked down the

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 1>field took short games the entire time. Same thing happened

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 1>with the Raiders in the second game. Um happened in

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bills game as well. When they chose to do it.

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:36.280
<v Speaker 1>The Buccaneers played a lot more aggressively. That's why that

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:38.320
<v Speaker 1>game looked a lot different in terms of how Casey

0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>was able to move to football. So like, if you're

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 1>looking in play, it doesn't appear like the weather is

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be as much of an issue this game,

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 1>certainly not as much as it was in the first meeting,

0:59:47.080 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 1>where that really impacted the game overall, but like you're

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna learn right away how Buffalo is going to choose

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to defend Mahomes and Casey and if it is that

0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:58.040
<v Speaker 1>too deep, look, Kansas City has really gone to sort

0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of the same play calling the entire reason when teams

1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 1>have chosen to do that. But what is interesting, it's

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:06.200
<v Speaker 1>like in the repeat games with the Raiders the Texans

1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that was essentially a repeat game because they played them

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:10.720
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, um, and then we saw a couple

1:00:10.760 --> 1:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of other times as well within the division, they the

1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:16.920
<v Speaker 1>teams that opposed them flip their defensive schemes game to game.

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:20.560
<v Speaker 1>They no team within the division went the same scheme

1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:23.400
<v Speaker 1>both games. So we might see a bit of a

1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:25.760
<v Speaker 1>change with Buffalo in terms of how they want to

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<v Speaker 1>handle it. Maybe we don't, we're just sort of speculating,

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<v Speaker 1>but if we're looking at sort of the other four

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:34.720
<v Speaker 1>repeat games, including that Houston one, complete opposites in terms

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of how defenses opposed Kansas City because they of how

1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 1>they factored in the first game. So sorry, what's what's

1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 1>so great about this game is we get to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the game and then we can bet, and now they

1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:50.600
<v Speaker 1>even which you guys in Vegas don't have, but Fandel,

1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:55.200
<v Speaker 1>they have in game props, don't we know. I couldn't

1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:58.320
<v Speaker 1>theoretically watch this first quarter and see, are they gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just give it to the running back every five seconds? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm betting that rushing. I know the number is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be inflated, but I don't care inflate the number

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<v Speaker 1>on me. I'll take the over anyways, and it'll still

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<v Speaker 1>get there because you're gonna be able to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>strategy of the as Adam just so pointed out, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out, my friend Gilly even gets this. And you know, Gilly,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the brightest bulb in the bunch. Um, I'm

1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:22.920
<v Speaker 1>just kidding, guys, I love Gilly. Um. The point is

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get to watch and see. That's why end

1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:29.920
<v Speaker 1>game is so important. Whether whether I'm gonna say, Gil, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I was gonna go with that. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if as far as weather goes, the Kansas

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:36.320
<v Speaker 1>City is completely clear, Like that's gonna be a perfectly

1:01:36.360 --> 1:01:39.120
<v Speaker 1>fine game in that one. But yeah, in Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it actually could snow. Now, it does

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<v Speaker 1>look like this could be a snow game. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like the latest model here has like one to three

1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:48.439
<v Speaker 1>inches of snow on Sunday, might even be a little

1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:50.560
<v Speaker 1>bit of accumulation and stuff like that, but as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>that always looks worse than it actually is because there's

1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:55.000
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be any wind to go along with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know who knows, and and Adam, if if

1:01:57.640 --> 1:01:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you like the over, if you y'all both of you

1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.000
<v Speaker 1>all like the over, in that game, we might see

1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:04.160
<v Speaker 1>this total falk because people overreact to the snow on

1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the damn field, and we might be able to get

1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:08.560
<v Speaker 1>even better and even better number whenever it whenever it

1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:11.040
<v Speaker 1>rolls around. So hopefully it does snow and all they

1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:12.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about is the snow on the field, and then

1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:14.520
<v Speaker 1>we get even better value and taking the over in

1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:17.360
<v Speaker 1>this favor is the flag at the top of the

1:02:17.400 --> 1:02:21.560
<v Speaker 1>stadium that's like four ft above the wind and then

1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:23.840
<v Speaker 1>oh it's windy here, and then you go to field

1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:26.640
<v Speaker 1>level that's beneath the stands and it's nothing. Although I

1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:29.040
<v Speaker 1>will say this man, with that that Buffalo game against

1:02:29.080 --> 1:02:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore last week, we're like, oh, it's only eight miles

1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:33.280
<v Speaker 1>per hour. And then as soon as that game started,

1:02:33.320 --> 1:02:34.960
<v Speaker 1>alt Michael's was like, if this is eight mile per

1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:38.080
<v Speaker 1>hour winds, I'm an astronaut. And those goalposts were like

1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:42.560
<v Speaker 1>covering the entire game, and and justin, Justin Tucker couldn't

1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:45.480
<v Speaker 1>make field goals. Yeah, but MAT's right, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe snow in Green Bay fifty could be rained in

1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, but yet not close to snow forty four

1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:55.200
<v Speaker 1>degrees expected in Kansas City for the second game. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, that's fahrenheit at him. For those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who are I got it. Yeah, Adam was making a

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<v Speaker 1>good point that I think that people who know gambling understand,

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<v Speaker 1>which is snow is not as big a factor as wind.

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<v Speaker 1>So just in case people who are a little less

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<v Speaker 1>experienced and understanding what he was trying to say there,

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<v Speaker 1>he was basically saying that snow is sometimes faked into

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<v Speaker 1>people thinking the under when really it can theoretically being

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<v Speaker 1>over because the defensive backs fall down and the receivers

1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.680
<v Speaker 1>know where they're going, whereas wind is really an under

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<v Speaker 1>thing because it's much harder to throw the ball. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just that's just a little help out because Adam

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<v Speaker 1>was making good point. I didn't want all the newbies

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<v Speaker 1>not to know what he was saying. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the clarification. I think Matt said it by the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Matt say, it doesn't matter whatever was they were

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<v Speaker 1>both saying. They were both saying it, But my point

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<v Speaker 1>was they I think they were. They were talking like

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<v Speaker 1>I knew exactly what they were saying, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>some people didn't. Alright, you're sweating out your osasuna one

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<v Speaker 1>one nil sixty six. I lost. I had osa suna

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<v Speaker 1>under a half plus one sixty Oh sorry, sorry about um. Okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>We've done all we can do. Appreciate it. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>as Matt said at the very beginning, the nice part

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<v Speaker 1>about this is, and again maybe I'm wrong in memory,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember too off at us having four

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<v Speaker 1>teams where no matter the matchup for the Super Bowl. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's the Bucks versus the Chiefs or Bills, or

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's the Packers. Excuse, but yeah, the Packers versus

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs are Bills. Um that all of these spreads,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we guess them on Primetime Action earlier this week.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all like three or lower, with the Bucks and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills being as close to a pick them as

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<v Speaker 1>as as there are in all these so it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a great matchup no matter the case. Uh, come

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks from today, next week, Uh, the week off

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<v Speaker 1>not a week off for the podcast. It's our tenth

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<v Speaker 1>annual Vegas Lifestyle podcast, a Man's Guide to send City.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be strange because it was a pandemic year,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know how much additions will have, But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get Mikey back in here and uh we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that, and then of course two weeks from now

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<v Speaker 1>not only take on the super Bowl, but also Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl props, the super Bowl edition of that. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>just can I just pimp out my my Twitter feed

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<v Speaker 1>real quick? Okay at t wishnev is my Twitter feed

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<v Speaker 1>t w I s h n e v UM. I

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<v Speaker 1>went back and looked all the way back through November

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<v Speaker 1>twenty this year when college basketball started to see how

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing, and in just the ones that I tweeted,

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't tweet all my plays, but in my

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball tweets, um I am one seventy one and

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<v Speaker 1>one oh seven, and in game college basketball tweets and

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<v Speaker 1>my football tweets since that time as well, I had

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<v Speaker 1>I broke them out. I'm sixty five and fifty one.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you if you want a good uh, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you also have to endure my tweets where I wind

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<v Speaker 1>like a little baby because something bad happens to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is that that comes with it. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bitching and moaning and crying. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>can handle the bitching and moaning and crying, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get some winner. Something that's kind of the hurdle with you,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. That's part of it. Yes, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bitching and yeah, Adam, it's the Simple

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<v Speaker 1>Handicap Podcast. Anything else we should know you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>gall off now you're putting out golf stuff. Yeah, first

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<v Speaker 1>year I'm doing golf. I was essentially irrelevant between February

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<v Speaker 1>and September when there was no football. So I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>it out of out of love for golf and love

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<v Speaker 1>for betting on golf. So that'll be once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it and the Simple Handicap available. We're all

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<v Speaker 1>podcaster attributed Matteo. Besides Primetime Action, did you want to

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<v Speaker 1>plug anything? You don't need to follow me on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about it. Yeah, that's bad. I like your

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<v Speaker 1>post on Twitter. That is very Yeah, it's Matt Brown

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<v Speaker 1>him too. There you got Matt Brown, m too. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me all of your hate and vitriol. I'm here for

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<v Speaker 1>He's very comfortable in his own skin. This Matt Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>very comfortable. I love it alright for Adam turning off

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<v Speaker 1>for Matt Brown. Four Todd wish If. Thank you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated uh NFL Championship around. Good luck with all your

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<v Speaker 1>bets this weekend. Thanks for listening to the megapod. Appreciate it.

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